⚙・modding-general

[fluid badger]

i mean with agem and ainavol

ffbto and m87 are like the only consistant members

[austere whale]

has synergies with +1 probability abilities

[long hare]

Each scored Lucky card has a 1 in 15 chance to increase all numerators by 1

[fluid badger]

also why is absolution there sometimes

did bro want a participation award

[austere whale]

interesting

[rain orbit]

The bonely one and m87 designs are both wrong consistently

[fluid badger]

really?

[austere whale]

well i wanted to

[fluid badger]

ive never seen other designs

[austere whale]

make myself a joker

[fluid badger]

its just fuckin orange and blue

[rain orbit]

They appeared as a cameo in b-side

[austere whale]

i kinda know nothing about myself so it's hard actually

[rain orbit]

When I'm at my computer I'll show you the canon designs for every member

[long hare]

same

[rain orbit]

That I discovered through personal connections

[austere whale]

i procrastinate a lot so..

[fluid badger]

@grok

[austere whale]

what about this

[long hare]

-ante joker?

[rain orbit]

If the vouchers that do -ante also do -1 hand and -1 discard then I can only imagine what a -ante joker will do

[long hare]

1 in 10 chance to give -1 Ante at the end of the round, self-destructs

[fluid badger]

there was a cryptid joker with this i never use

forgot its name

[austere whale]

Bunny

• next selected blind can be selected/skipped
• (2 uses left)

[fluid badger]

redo?

[lost bolt]

i rebalanaced this joker around it appearing in shop normally

[long hare]

what

[austere whale]

you know, blind won't get defeated

when you're at blind select screen

you can skip/select it again

[hard plank]

moth

[fluid badger]

remove the lowercase a from the last mod in ur display name

[austere whale]

rephrased it

[fluid badger]

yes

[austere whale]

should be better

[lost bolt]

moth?

[fluid badger]

moth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjZt3ppAlns

[austere whale]

so as long as you play one hand every round you can scale it up actually, waow

[long hare]

lämp

[fluid badger]

absolute lamp

[austere whale]

who the moff

[fluid badger]

who the hell is the moose man

[lost bolt]

i do wonder if it's too much, i'm not a huge fan of the winmore but i am a huge fan of anti spamming pairs

[long hare]

the pair players actually have to discard now

[lost bolt]

you scale downwards if you play more hands than discards*1.5

[rose prairie]

Anyone have thoughts on this common joker
(My mod pack is meant to be a vanilla extension)

Critisism welcomed

[austere whale]

i believe it's good! encourages you to oneshot, tho if you already have founded your winning hand you are not gonna be able to use your discards well for scaling. is it too harsh? i'm not sure

[long hare]

it bizarr!

[rain orbit]

Rekoj doesn't do +chips

[rose prairie]

No idea what that is

[rose prairie]

What is Rekoj?

[long hare]

@rain orbit

[austere whale]

what the fuck

[rain orbit]

Is you deadahh

[rose prairie]

yea

[rain orbit]

[austere whale]

the guy on the right

[long hare]

you literally included him in the design wtf

[rose prairie]

Never played other modpacks before

[polar oyster]

Bipolar clown

[long hare]

now we need a bipolar variant for every multiverse

[rose prairie]

I saw your @rain orbit's pfp and thought it looked interesting so I made it myself then made it a card

[austere whale]

i think it'd be better if the effects were a bit stronger? others might disagree but i think the effects being worse than jimbo and already being random is kinda not cool

[rose prairie]

+4 or + 40?

[long hare]

bizarro, orta, kloun, and ALT

oh and magician and face

[ember flicker]

is there a tool to help make shaders for like editions

like preview

what it would look like

[rose prairie]

I belive there is

I definetly saw something like that when I was digging around with editions at one point

[rain orbit]

This is a better sprite for it

[rose prairie]

GIPS seems like it might be what you are looking for:
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1276894022656462910

[upbeat kayak]

DebugPlus has a shader preview function

[rose prairie]

Honestly I like mine more, that guy looks malnourished

[ember flicker]

this looks more like putting editions on images

[rain orbit]

That's what rekoj looks like normally

Bizarros look like imperfect versions of the originals

[ember flicker]

where

[upbeat kayak]

I can check in a bit

[rose prairie]

is rokoj that jokers name in a mod?

[rain orbit]

The mod itself is applying DC's bizarro concept onto balatro, rekoj (aka jimzarro) is the mascot like jimbo is for normal balatro and jester is for ortalab

[exotic belfry]

Shout out mods with mascot jokers

[rose prairie]

Ngl it feels like you are speaking tounges, I have no idea what DC's bizarro concept, rekoj (aka jimzarro) is

I am very new into the balatro mods space and I haven't seen/played any other than mine

[upbeat kayak]

The command is watch shader <path>

[rain orbit]

DC as in the comic company that has superheroes like batman and superman

Bizarro is a concept that belongs to it

Watch a yt video or smth

[upbeat kayak]

<path>should start from the mods folder

[rain orbit]

Jimzarro is just what rekoj is called, like how people call joker jimbo

[upbeat kayak]

watch shader Mods/your mod/assets/shaders/name.fs

It'll show a preview and auto update every time you save the .fs file

[rose prairie]

Ahh, that makes sense, ok, thanks for giving me some new info

[undone surge]

yo

did they updated paperback?

???

[austere whale]

i believe yeah

like a week ago or something?

[undone surge]

I feel really bad because the Paperback mod really fulfilled its purpose of being similar to vanilla, but I see that's changed, since there are quite a few strange additions to Paperback. I didn't like it, and I liked the update.

So, that's what it's supposed to be.

[ember flicker]

uhhh no i wanted a tool to tweak shit before coding the shader

but thank u

[undone surge]

What is this supposed to be?

[gentle raptor]

Balatro Tip 2: you can Play a Spade 💡

[long hare]

limbus reference

[undone surge]

💔

at least they added Pentacles to the Minor Arcana Packs

after 1 gazillion years

[long hare]

yeah, paperback's new direction isnt exactly my favorite, but im not saying its bad

[undone surge]

yeah...

I hope the Paperback developers will reconsider some of their new additions and think about removing or reworking some of the art to make it more compatible with the game, since that's the reason I really like the mod, if I'm honest, because of its beautiful art and the references to the Minor Arcana.

[neon orchid]

Paperback
Looks inside
No paper (idk)

[long hare]

yeah most of the joker art is references to other media, i just dont like that the references spread to the consumables too

[undone surge]

yea

I hope they reworked some of those type of art

i mean

they added some New jokers with art

i fact, imma create a list

I hope PaperMoonQueen will consider creating artwork that is consistent with the entire mod, instead of creating strange things.

like

what the hell is OFF

[full edge]

Opposite of on

[undone surge]

sure, iguess bro

nah, but deadass, i mean the one From Paperback

[long hare]

good ending of the game "OFF"

[forest knoll]

I hope you will consider interacting with the references that the mod makes, instead of writing them off as strange things immediately
OFF is an abstract RPG that I think is very much worth playing, it got an English translation + remake last year on Windows and switch
I haven't personally played any Project Moon games (where ego gifts come from) but they also seem quite fun from what I've seen

[undone surge]

Fun itsn't Paperback's purpose

That's what Cryptid is for.

[wanton rapids]

????

[long hare]

????????

[undone surge]

Paperback might be some short of ''expansion''

[forest knoll]

ok I'm not taking you seriously anymore 😭 all due respect this makes no sense

[long hare]

this has to be ragebait

[full edge]

No fun allowed in my Balatro mods. That's why my mod only adds one new thing, and that's a feeling of ennui that eats away at Jimbo while he reconsiders his life choices

[long hare]

all mods are fun as long as you consider them fun

[full edge]

Meta worked on paperback with papermoonqueen, btw, suspect she does have some feeling for what the mod is aiming for, haha

[undone surge]

What I was trying to say is that each mod has its own characteristics, and Paperback broke the mold of its art style with Rare Jokers, really.

[forest knoll]

anyway @long hare regarding consumable types, as far as I'm aware papermoon still wants to go for that "wonders of the world" consumable type at some point, and there's a toggle in the settings to disable ego gifts

[wanton rapids]

would that not just be its new art style?

[west hill]

is paperback still solo arted?

[undone surge]

PLS , OMG

[full edge]

I get what you're saying, I think you're just conveying it a bit strangely. Definitely happens that a mod, or any game, changes in experience when a lot of new content is added

[undone surge]

No, because it feels so non-vanilla

[full edge]

There's some guest art, but from my understanding definitely still mostly PaperMoon

[forest knoll]

papermoon does most of it, but it's not entirely her
Dylan Hall contributed some for 0.8.0 (like the OFF jokers)

[undone surge]

I hope PaperMoon redeems itself

or at least some sort of rework to the art\

because omg

[west hill]

this is a remarkably out of touch, entitled thing to say

[undone surge]

this is ugly asf

[forest knoll]

I doubt that's happening

[undone surge]

this is ain't paperback 💔

[full edge]

I think you're straying into just insulting rather than reflecting your opinion, at this point

Because that's incredibly rude

[cold rose]

Strawman fallacy

Wow

Average cryptid fan

[forest knoll]

like I said, this one wasn't even drawn by papermoon

[full edge]

It looks sick

[undone surge]

ik

i js realized

i aplogize

there was some misunderstanding

i mean

[full edge]

If you want bad art, though, I recommend playing with the Morbius joker in #1340334060597285025

[undone surge]

PaperMoon artwork it's just awesome, why change that up

[cold rose]

its morbin time

[forest knoll]

I suspect maybe there's a bit of a language barrier, and your words came out a lot harsher than intended
the OFF jokers are made to look like the game OFF (which, again, I highly recommend playing)

[undone surge]

you are right

i do apologize

[undone surge]

i know, but i don't feel like it really fits in Paperback

[full edge]

Most mods are also made to be just what the devs are enthusiastic about. Plenty of mods are collections of hyperfixations. Part of mods being passion products that are hobby projects.

[west hill]

it is impressive how long you continue to dig this hole

[undone surge]

it's my favorite mod, what can i say..?

[full edge]

Opinion so strongly held it comes with its own balrog 😋

[cloud willow]

they did this when I posted a card idea earlier too ;-;

[west hill]

stop complaining about a small thing you don't like in a passion project from a group of people who have worked hard on something for you to enjoy for free perhaps

the way you phrase your messages is incredibly rude

[forest knoll]

yea at the end of the day I don't think the art will be changing
you can always use the Banner mod to ban jokers that you don't like the art of, and paperback's settings are very expansive so you can disable features like ego gifts you maybe don't enjoy

[cloud willow]

anyway how we doing chat

[undone surge]

dude, they messed up, we are a public, It is the first amendment

[undone surge]

for some reason

it' doesn't show up

i got the first T.R.A.S.H pack

[cloud willow]

ummmm aktusally this is discord where American amendments dont apply

[forest knoll]

you say first amendment, but you keep crossing the line from making proper criticism to just flinging insults. and the first amendment won't protect you from being punished for violating the rules of a shared space (e.g. rule 1 be respectful)

[undone surge]

freak

[full edge]

Preparing to disappear from Balatro modding for a week while I visit my good friend Leon S Kennedy, so I can return and set up some more attempts at shaders I will not finish

[wanton rapids]

how exactly did they mess up?

[cloud willow]

have fun!

[undone surge]

new art, and EGO Consumables

[forest knoll]

considering foo said you were mean about one of their ideas too, I'm tempted to just ping moderators at this point

[wanton rapids]

i. don't see your logic here

[full edge]

I think we're at the stage where block lists are the best step to take

[cloud willow]

chat yall like my placeholder art

id send a gif but it'd get nuked

[frigid mica]

In case I get slapped in the face with technical terms, what are the “math.” functions?

[cloud willow]

like math.floor?

[frigid mica]

yes, like math.min, math.max, ceiling, to number, all that

[forest knoll]

a library of mathematical functions available for use in lua
search "lua math library" for the documentation

[cloud willow]

I dont know much about lua but im going to assume it's like other languages
Math is a library that includes methods to do complicated(sometimes) math functions really fast

[long hare]

:blunder:

[undone surge]

?

[forest knoll]

trigonometry stuff, exponents and logarithms, absolute value, max, min, floor, ceiling, etc

[full edge]

Are these all joker ideas?

[cloud willow]

??

[cloud willow]

no thats the math library 😭

[undone surge]

what's :blunder:?

[forest knoll]

meth library

[cloud willow]

??

[full edge]

Is math library a mod? What's the link?

[normal hollow]

thats lovely

[long hare]

??

[full edge]

Wanna play with the frexp joker

[cloud willow]

type math. in your ide and itll automatically download

[wanton rapids]

it's a New Update to Cryptid

[dusty token]

man i really love the ldexp joker

[forest knoll]

is ide on the balatro mod manager?

[normal hollow]

idk

[cloud willow]

no I dont think so

I wouldn't know i dont use it

[trail berry]

i will make a mod called ide about math and put it on bmm

[full edge]

I don't know who the Balatro mod manager is but I would like to speak to him, as I have some complaints about the employees here

[west hill]

sorry the manager isn't here right now, I can take a message if you want

[full edge]

Cause I've been trying to make a mod for a year at this point and this YuGiOh anime Twink still hasn't written all of the code for it

[cloud willow]

chat I have an amazing idea and this will go wrong in no ways whatsoever
Math deck
calls a random function from the math library passing chips and mult as the arguments instead of multiplying chips and mult

[full edge]

Math.floor deck

[gentle raptor]

Balatro

[cloud willow]

you will definitely not get screwed over by cos giving you -1 score

okay time to make ms paint adachi rei

[trail berry]

balatro mod manager? whose that?

[cloud willow]

robot

[unkempt current]

yahoo me mod release go play it

[blissful stag]

This canio is on x1 for the entire time

Im so TIRED of it bro

[cloud willow]

wrong chat?

[blissful stag]

No i just have a reoccurring bit where i talk about vanilla mobile balatro in modding chat

[unkempt current]

Wuh

[blissful stag]

Off topic barely gets used anyways

[trail berry]

peak is here

[polar bison]

maybe not the right channel to ask but is anyone else having issues with All In Jest?

[unkempt current]

Thanks!!

[cloud willow]

#⚙・modding-support would be the best channel

[polar bison]

yeah thought so

thanks

[unkempt current]

Oh yeah and reporting a bug is best in its forum

Wait lemme

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1357543332602970212

[cloud willow]

and im out of ideas again...

[long hare]

rei moment...

[long hare]

gimmick girl best rei song

[cloud willow]

get in the menace server now

[undone surge]

Much Better

[blissful stag]

I rolled into the plant

[undone surge]

#🕹・game-discussion

[worn rain]

shut it

[worn rain]

also womp womp
Shoulda kept Canio

Only time I'll ever say canio woulda been useful

[blissful stag]

There was literally no hanged men the entire time up to that point

[worn rain]

skillissue

[cloud willow]

should've installed foobar and let yi xi eat your face cards

smh

[long hare]

?

[worn rain]

?

[long hare]

ok but type t's voice goes hard

there are so few type t songs

[stable juniper]

Ghost Cards now supports Bakery! https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471922886007591122

[cloud willow]

mods been updated yay
yall can try out whiplash now

see how broken it is (or isn't)

[desert mirage]

soulwares

[winged prism]

Evgass

Buy cards

In my shop (it isn't out)

[opaque kraken]

Is there a mod out there that only adds new decks?

[winged prism]

I'm sure there is plenty of those but the only I can immediately remember is Boss Decks

[normal hollow]

too many decks

[winged prism]

It adds decks based on boss blinds

I'm pretty sure you need to unlock them first tho

[opaque kraken]

I will take a look at both of these. Thank you!

[undone minnow]

I'm sure this has been asked before. Is there a mod where you can configure for only legendary jokers to spawn

[rain orbit]

Might as well play cryptid at that point

[winged prism]

Like why

Also Legendaries do not "spawn" naturally

[undone minnow]

Just trying to have a fun experimental run with my sister

[rain orbit]

What would be a good way to make ÷mult useful

Or at least something to make up for it

[toxic cloud]

/0.5 Mult

/0.33 Mult

[dusty token]

make it a blind

/1.5 mult for every played hand

or smthn

[rain orbit]

No this is for a bizarro joker

Joey j jester to be specific

Which does Xchips

So therefore the bizarro one will do ÷mult

When I do -mult I use Xmult to make up for it but I never had to deal with ÷mult before

[dusty token]

+100 mult, /2 mult?

[rain orbit]

It has to be ÷1.2 mult no question
But if I attach a lot of +mult to it then people are just gonna steamroll the run when acquired earlier in the run

[dusty token]

+10, /1.2

[rain orbit]

Maybe have it be +mult per ante

Like if you're on ante 1 it gives like 3 mult but on ante 3 it gives 9 and so on

Yeah that sounds good

[dusty token]

🤔

[latent crescent]

crust I did the thing

[dusty token]

you did the thing

[latent crescent]

I did

[dusty token]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/pull/1232

oh

[rain orbit]

What would be a good way to word getting +3 mult per ante

Like ante 1 you get +3, ante 2 your get +6, ante 3 you get +9, and so on

(We don't talk about ante -1)

[latent crescent]

I think PR is almost perfect, with exception of stencil thing and files where I need to put code in like lsp def and object def

[amber river]

+3 mult for every ante you've been on, inclusively

[brisk seal]

+3 Mult for each ante

[rain orbit]

Still sounds too wordy

[limpid lake]

+3 Mult per ante, per ante

well, I'm assuming the gain is also per ante

[brisk seal]

acceleration of mult gain?

[limpid lake]

+3 Mult per ante, per (whatever)

[brisk seal]

+3 Mult per ante^2

[limpid lake]

+3 Mult per ante²

[rain orbit]

[amber river]

+(Current Ante X 3) Mult?

+3 Mult X current ante?

[rain orbit]

+3 mult for current ante level?

[amber river]

doesn't really make sense

[rain orbit]

+3 mult per ante played?

[ember crow]

this doesnt consider hieroglyph

[amber river]

none of these do

[ember crow]

well this one does

[amber river]

i was about to correct myself but ye

[rain orbit]

It wasn't intended to count them but I can make it count them if it becomes too hard to word it good

[brisk seal]

+3 Mult per Ante is sufficient if you ask me.

[rain orbit]

It's supposed to give you +3 mult depending on the current ante level

Like if you're on ante 8 it gives +24 mult

But on ante 2 it gives +6 mult

[brisk seal]

ye i know

I've done a similar thing

[ember crow]

+3 mult times the current ante could work?

[rain orbit]

I intend for it to just function based on the current ante level, so hieroglyph makes it lower the amount of +mult

[dusty token]

thats just +(Current Ante X 3) Mult

[ember crow]

fairs

ig just +3 mult per ante works and consideres hieroglyph

[brisk seal]

I agree

[rain orbit]

Thing is I'm trying to make it not consider heiroglyph

[brisk seal]

ah

[rain orbit]

If it lowers the ante it lowers the +mult

[ember crow]

yea thats what i meant by considering hieroglyph lmao

[rain orbit]

Oh

[brisk seal]

+3 Mult, +3 Mult per ante completed

[toxic cloud]

I have a similar joker, but it doesn't consider ante reduction

Hieroglyph is a huge change

[brisk seal]

im confused what @rain orbit is trying to accomplish

per ante is fine if heiroglyph reduces the mult

[toxic cloud]

actually

Hieroglyph reduces ante, but the amount of ante completed stays the same

[brisk seal]

yes

but ante is also a number

[rain orbit]

Let me set a small sequence

Ante 1 = +3 mult, ante 2 = +6 mult, and so on
Ante 8 = +24 mult, use a heiroglyph to make it ante 7 again so +21 mult now

[brisk seal]

ante level can be more clear

if you so need to be

[ember crow]

maybe +3 Mult when Boss Blind is defeated

cuz defeating boss blind will advance the ante

[toxic cloud]

nah, that gets messed up if all blinds are boss blinds

[ember crow]

oh true

[toxic cloud]

Campfire being decent in vanilla but potentially weak in that case

[ember crow]

maybe +3 Mult when Ante is beaten

[dusty token]

+3 Mult per Ante

[brisk seal]

It's what I use

[dusty token]

yeah

[rain orbit]

Maybe +3 mult for current ante level?

[brisk seal]

why say current

it's obviously current

[rain orbit]

[ember crow]

maybe +3 mult per ante level

[dusty token]

what is ante level 😭

[brisk seal]

the number

[rain orbit]

Ante counter I believe

[rose prairie]

Thoughts on this joker, based on the Thatcher effect
Critisism welcomed

[woven orchid]

is this ever beneficial

[rose prairie]

idk

[rain orbit]

Omg rightside up rekoj

[rain orbit]

Plant ig

[woven orchid]

it saves you from 1 boss blind and makes so many other jokers obsolete because they no longer do anything

[rain orbit]

But that'd still require you to be able to beat it without face card dependency

Oh and making the mark not do anything

Also, does someone have a blank booster pack template I can use

[rose prairie]

I honestly just couldnt think of an idea that would work with the Thatcher effect theme

[woven orchid]

maybe swapping face card and non face card classification would be slightly less niche

[rose prairie]

maybe Ace?

[rose prairie]

which card would it make sense to do?

[woven orchid]

what

[rose prairie]

Like which card should it swap to?

[woven orchid]

i meant that face cards counted as non face cards and non face cards counted as face cards

[shy quail]

Guys I have a big project in my program And I need to make a website

its in french but yeaah

[rose prairie]

ooh, thats interesting

[rose prairie]

I like this a lot better, tho it is interesting if you have both upside down joker and pareidolia as no cards count as face cards

[rain orbit]

You know what fuck you
Unboosters your pack

[rose prairie]

Thoughts on this joker?

Current interaction with pareidolia is:
Pareidolia in front of Upside → no face cards (All Cards Face, Upside Down flips that)
Pareidolia after Upside → all face cards (Upside Down flips normal interactions, Pareidolia sets everything to face)

[brisk seal]

technically this should make all cards considered both face and non-face cards

[rose prairie]

why do you say that?

if you go in joker order it makes sense

[brisk seal]

face cards are considered non-face cards

thus they must be considered face cards

similar logic for non-face cards

[rose prairie]

I see what you are saying, and since the upside down joker is fliping both at the same time you could say they are in a superposition

[wanton rapids]

Face cards are considered non-face cards,
other cards are considered face cards

[brisk seal]

how?

[formal orchid]

Play my mod

[dusty token]

judgement

[undone minnow]

In Rarren’s video he was able to do it

[formal orchid]

and the other one

[woven orchid]

judgememnt 2

[winged prism]

Judge meme not

Judge Memenot sounds like a name for a Judge that appears for like one case in AA7 before the usual Judge returns

Sorry for leaking

His name is Memenot because he's very very serious and totally not a joke

[lost bolt]

Beautiful combo i've realized

[dusty token]

the other one

[shy quail]

yeah play Revo's Mods

-# and mine but whatever

[winged prism]

The purple one

Idk is Revo's Vault purple

G.C.PURPLE

[toxic cloud]

yikes

once Pocket Mirror is broken, that run is dead
trying to revive it only bricks it further

[frigid mica]

I’m broke and musically incompetent bruh.

[winged prism]

Assuming that you don't need your instruments to perfectly imitate real ones (which isn't possible anyway) being broke does not matter

[frigid mica]

actually i don't think i'm allowed to use my money

[frigid mica]

i wanna use pre-existing music but i'm scared of the legal issues

[winged prism]

Copyright free bullshit then

You would probably need to dig in to find something you would like, but like

[woven orchid]

this is awesome

[winged prism]

ZATO's OST consists entirely of free music for example

[frigid mica]

who

[winged prism]

ZATO? A visual novel, doesn't really matter, it's just the only example of media using free music that I could immediately remember

Imo shit fits perfectly

[frigid mica]

idk its genre of music

[woven orchid]

also this is a stupid thing but this uses 2 new event queues to run its animations meaning it can't interfere with gameplay

[winged prism]

I'm sure you can find copyright free music of any genre

I'm not sure about my connection existing tho

See ya when it return ig

O

[toxic cloud]

Ik my High Card level sucks, but please, it's not the time to be funny twice

[woven orchid]

haha funy 69

[toxic cloud]

"nah, I'd win"

I have the power of Plot Armor on my side

[frigid mica]

Intrusive thoughts be telling me “If they find out it’s copyright free music, they gon tell on yo ass that you broke asf”

[toxic cloud]

I mean literally

[woven orchid]

Oh my god

wait letme show yhou my vvversion of that

[toxic cloud]

that's even funnier because it implies plot armor

[frigid mica]

I have two jokers that can prevent death. (I plan to make atleast 3)

[woven orchid]

Beavers are plot armor.

[frigid mica]

Are you still gonna stick with renowned, exquisite and prestigious

[woven orchid]

prestigious is being axed because it's dumb

other names are staying the same

renowned jokers are probably going to be more common tho

[frigid mica]

More so than epic?

[toxic cloud]

fun fact: Plot Armor is active for the entirety of Harpae's area

[woven orchid]

still fairly rare but not as rare as they used to be

[frigid mica]

Wdym? You can die anytime you want and still win?

During Harpae’s area I mean

[toxic cloud]

yep

[frigid mica]

-# Assuming it’s an entire run path or something

[toxic cloud]

I mean, in the original game Harpae vows to protect G

[woven orchid]

G

like the global table

no way

[toxic cloud]

I forgor

[frigid mica]

Harpae vows to protect G.GAME

[toxic cloud]

I mean she vows to protect this one

[rose prairie]

Thoughts on this joker?
Any changes I should make to keep the card feeling more vanilla or balenced?

[toxic cloud]

the same joker in Ortalab is a common

[woven orchid]

pondering

in new valk; antes will have level gates and if you dont meet them you will get beaten up

pondering up how i want to design the ui

[rose prairie]

I have still never played Ortalab, only heard about it, is it a vanilla like mod?

[toxic cloud]

it's the alternate universe where objects have different or inverted effects

[frigid mica]

I keep thinking about this, Chad from Cryptid and Trueprint from Yahimod retrigger jokers twice but Chad is Rare while Trueprint is Legendary.

[woven orchid]

because cryptid is designed like ass

[toxic cloud]

Cryptid was never meant to be balanced

I'd put Chad in at least Epic

or Obscure if it's in my mod

[frigid mica]

I wonder if I made the right decision to make Noisette a Fantastic Rarity Joker

[rose prairie]

so is that good for the purpose of my mod?

[toxic cloud]

well, it depends on how you want to balance stuff

[rose prairie]

I want the balence to be as vanilla as I can make it

I just thought that it feels better than a hanging chad if you are playing bigger hands but has luck involved

[toxic cloud]

ok Harpae, you're being diabolical

forced bad ending

[frigid mica]

Is this the except the info queue was talking about

[toxic cloud]

wait nvm, in Ortalab it's 1 in 2 chance instead

[rose prairie]

I just changed mine to that as it makes it better to play bigger hands

[frigid mica]

I wonder if my mod lives up to its name

[winged prism]

It does sound like a way less controllable alternative to chad. Maybe its like good with OA6 but idk idk

[rose prairie]

because you get on average 1.6 hits per 5 cards for 1/3 but 1/2 = 2.5 hits also if you have Oops! it becomes a non perishing seltzer

[toxic cloud]

that's a lot worse than Hanging Chad

also a non-perishing seltzer sounds powerful, but it still requires 2 joker slots

[winged prism]

2/3 hit is not Seltzer but ok

[toxic cloud]

think further

[rose prairie]

I changed it to 1/2 so it is

[winged prism]

A

[frigid mica]

Do you think it’s broken to have a joker that can create any random booster pack for free?

[winged prism]

Depends

[rose prairie]

Which looks better?
And should I make any changes?

[frigid mica]

On one hand you can find some of the most dogshit booster packs you can find like regular standard packs, on the other hand this fucking thing somehow spawns a mega spectral pack.

[winged prism]

If it just gives a booster per shop than it is very big

Because even a regular standard might be big if it has right cards

It's kinda schrodinger idk

[frigid mica]

One sec

[winged prism]

Voucher?

[frigid mica]

it spawns it per shop

i also have papyrus and asriel

they spawn mega arcana and mega spectral respectively

[winged prism]

My ass can't think outside of what I consider vanilla-adjacent 😭

[frigid mica]

my mod isn't vanilla adjacent

[winged prism]

Yeah I know

[frigid mica]

least i think it isn

[winged prism]

It very much isn't

Regardless in vanilla free random booster would be AT LEAST uncommon I think

[frigid mica]

i think this is what walter white will be

he gives a free random booster pack in the shop of any kind

[winged prism]

Holy shit

I found the blue stuff in my boosters...

[frigid mica]

and my blue stuff let's just say...

my speck trails...

what should walter white be?

he can be rare or dreamy (epic)

[wicked jasper]

so cool,, the roaring knight in your mod

[frigid mica]

currently part of planned entropy crossmod

[wicked jasper]

lmao

[frigid mica]

along with Apollyon from TBOI

He looks a lot like Helios

[nocturne kraken]

...um, hello!
...where would i go if i need to report a bug to a developer... but they don't have a thread for their mod...?

[woven orchid]

what mod is it?

[nocturne kraken]

...the, um, UTDR joker pack by @rigid pond, I think?

-# ...and Viomarks, hehe...

[rigid pond]

Hi yeah

I coded it

[nocturne kraken]

flujashjkdgf

hello!

[rigid pond]

vio did the art

what's broken

[woven orchid]

yeah thats pretty much the best thing to do there being just pinging them

[nocturne kraken]

um, sorry if this is any bother...
...we think we're encountering an error trying to use it with the newest version of Talisman (now called amulet), and wanted to ask for help...

[rigid pond]

Ah

Don't

[nocturne kraken]

Syntax error: card.lua:1637: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1620) near 'playing_card_joker_effects'


A mod you have installed has caused a syntax error through patching. Please share this crash with the mod developer.


Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-1323c-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback
===============
(3)  C function 'function: 0x2eccff60'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 896
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
 c = table: 0x2ecd5720  {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x2ecd5770, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
 openedconsole = boolean: false
 confok = boolean: true
 conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
 result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
 func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 inerror = boolean: true
 deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])```

oh

-# sorry.

[rigid pond]

Look in the depends for the versions of lovely and talisman it asks and use those

[nocturne kraken]

-# shit.

[rigid pond]

I can probably get it working with new talisman and lovely

but one or two of the fucky jokers require some uhhh

Less Than Standard patches

[nocturne kraken]

...a friend wanted me to use a mod they made, but
that mod requires amulet.

[rigid pond]

So it's usually lovely+talisman version specific

[woven orchid]

what does it do that requires a specific lovely version?

[rigid pond]

I should've set it == not >= but i forgot

[rigid pond]

Sorry not lovely smods

[woven orchid]

ah i see

[rigid pond]

I haven't looked at the code since the ch3+4 update so i couldn't tell u what specifically

Also no eta on a fix, at the time I had no job but now I work about 10 hours a day

[nocturne kraken]

ah...

-# ...again, sorry to bother you with this...

[rigid pond]

's'worth it

[rigid pond]

I made the damn thing

i'll fix it

[nocturne kraken]

-# ...thank you. don't overwork yourself, but thank you.

[rigid pond]

I only work 5 days a week not 6

so i'm doing pretty good

[rigid pond]

yeah it looks like a card.lua patch isn't playing nicely with new smods and/or talisman patches

i bet it's my rarity kludges lol

the mod is 95% nice normal smods stuff but any of the things that do fun stuff like shadowguy (they were a PAINNNNN), shelter, CORE, barrier, shadow_crystal, seam

those caused problems

it took me about a week to get barrier working, i thought we'd have to scrap the idea a few times

the knight caused problems too but stupid ones. it would try to delete too many cards and then explode the game

[full edge]

What does barrier do?

[rigid pond]

Debuffed cards give $2 when scored

I believe it's easy now but the context didn't exist at the time so I had to pore through card.lua and game.lua to figure out how to insert my own

and also get a custom message working

Philosopher was also tricky though fun, i think i hijacked the spectrals-in-tarot system for that one?

Another bitch was messing with probabilities to change glass card probability before the probability smods update

lovely had a bug that prevented patching mod code on my system at the time so i had to just swap the whole SMODS.calculate_context statement

just to change G.GAME.probabilities.normal to G.GAME.probabilities.glass

[full edge]

Oooh yeah if you worked with old smods, all that was a lot of jank to set up, yeah, haha

Making a mod now is a lot easier

[rigid pond]

For that I am grateful

Im sure once I get new smods i'll find 1/3 of my patches are now obsolete

[toxic cloud]

smods 0.9.8 be like

SMODS.Joker:new({key = "key", calculate = function(self, card, context) end}):register()

[frigid mica]

Wait, you’re the UTDR guy?

[toxic cloud]

now compare it to the current method

see how jank that is

I was there during 0.9.8 times, but I was too afraid to start making mods

[wanton rapids]

you could tablecall in 0.9.8?

[rigid pond]

Or girl

Or neither

Not quite sure

[wanton rapids]

it was just a list of arguments

you added a function later

[rigid pond]

I regret not putting the thing under source control

i meant to but forgot

Didn't expect the project to go anywhere I did it for fun

do you have questions and or comments about my..... """master"""work

[lean dune]

nah

[wanton rapids]

that's what i thought

[frigid mica]

I searched for mentions of the mod in this channel specifically

[rigid pond]

If you dig back enough you'll find like 500 questions from me while I was making it

i didn't know shit about balatro modding when i started LOL

[frigid mica]

So you were just beginning like I was

I see

[lean dune]

SMODS.Joker:new(name, slug, config, spritePos, loc_txt, rarity, cost, unlocked, discovered, blueprint_compat, eternal_compat, effect, atlas, soul_pos):register() my beloved

[rigid pond]

Yeah

[toxic cloud]

my first mod wasn't even a content mod

[rigid pond]

I got the job of coding it by being the first person to offer

[toxic cloud]

it's a mod that adds Vietnamese to the game

[rigid pond]

And we just

figured it out

It took about a month i think?

Then we had to fix a bunch of bugs like immediately after release

deltarune update went way smoother since i was more acquainted with the tools of the trade

[toxic cloud]

oh yea, I only vaguely remember the syntax, so it was each argument corresponding to each field in current method

that's so jank

[rigid pond]

Okay i really need to sleep i have to wake up in 6 hours. what am i doing

[rigid pond]

That's familiar

[frigid mica]

Good god

[toxic cloud]

not to mention you had to manually register the modded object

[rigid pond]

I really should switch the mod away from loc_txt

chapter 5 update maybe

[frigid mica]

Thank SMODS.Cat i got into modding much much later

[lean dune]

don't thank God, thank me

[frigid mica]

Cause wdym you had to do all this shit

[lean dune]

it wasn't just bad to use, it was also terrible to work with from an inside perspective

so much boilerplate code

[toxic cloud]

so true

back when I was working on localization mod, it wasn't even there in 0.9.8 to begin with

[lean dune]

not to speak of the pre-lovely era

[toxic cloud]

that's essentially dark ages of balatro modding

[full edge]

Glad to have you here chatting, though, haha, your mod was too popular for there to not be someone here who knew how the crashes happened, haha

[frigid mica]

You mean…

Balamod?

[lean dune]

when you had to compile an injector each time you wanted to change something in smods

[lean dune]

balamod was never real

I'm talking like smods 0.6

[frigid mica]

Ah

[toxic cloud]

basically

inject smods into Balatro
want to update smods
verify file integrity to wipe previous smods
inject again

[full edge]

Smods is a godsend, for sure. You and Eremel deserve crowns honestly, aure

[frigid mica]

So when did y’all started using lovely? 0.7?

[lean dune]

I mean I would just keep a vanilla copy that I could roll back to

[toxic cloud]

that works too

[full edge]

If Playstack was cool all the devoted smods devs would get a free key for any game they published, honestly

[toxic cloud]

except it's absolutely not user-friendly

[lean dune]

there was a brief time when I developed on smods without lovely. it had already started emerging but wasn't quite there yet

so yeah somewhere around 0.7.1

[toxic cloud]

first lovely version I used was 0.4 beta-ish?

[frigid mica]

What if Playstack and localthunk went out of their way to make SMODS API a part of the game or something

[toxic cloud]

damn, dark ages of lovely

[lean dune]

I remember 0.3.1

[toxic cloud]

glad to see modding nowadays being more accessible to new users

[lean dune]

ye olde dwmapi.dll

[toxic cloud]

speaking of dll and stuff

my first modding scene happened on MacOS

it was a real nightmare

[lean dune]

oh damn

[full edge]

Then he'd be responsible for protecting against any injected code with bad intent, I can't see that happening

[wanton rapids]

i joined at like 0.7.3

[lean dune]

0.4.0 had like... beta-ish Mac support, right?

[toxic cloud]

yep

hence the bugs I encounter with lovely and not smods

[lean dune]

that must have sucked

[full edge]

One of the great things about smods accessibility is also that it's easier to contribute to smods without it being a very challenging coding challenge

[lean dune]

you can even mod smods like if it were the base game

[toxic cloud]

isn't extending SMODS.GameObject technically that

[lean dune]

somewhat, except it's more powerful because smods is more extendable than vanilla is

I was referring to patching smods code here

[toxic cloud]

you're right

ah

speaking of that

lovely 0.7.1 lacked patching other mods on MacOS

another nightmare

[lean dune]

yeah i remember that

[frigid mica]

What other things are there to expect in later versions of SMODS?

[lean dune]

in terms of major features, there's quantum ranks and blind trees in the pipeline

[frigid mica]

Maybe something about merging APIs from other mods to SMODS but idk

[lean dune]

like what

[frigid mica]

Like say Cryptlib

[lean dune]

I co-own that repo but I haven't once looked at it

what APIs does it have that smods could use

[toxic cloud]

library mods are mainly for other mods to utilize
I rarely see a case for the modloader itself tho

[wanton rapids]

quantum ranks real ?

[frigid mica]

I mean, all it has is simpler setup for card value manipulation, then exponential mult/chips without amulet, also ascended hands, and ccd cards.

[toxic cloud]

it's still in the works, but I've heard something about it impacting performance

[lean dune]

thee modest #838

[full edge]

Is blind trees something actively being considered? I looked into it because I'm setting up more features for the blind API, and while blind trees did feel really cool as a concept, I struggled to see how that'd work as a base smods feature, with how much visual overhauls it'd need

[frigid mica]

I’m planning to use ccd cards in my mod.

[lean dune]

I can see it as a base smods feature for sure, it'd just have to be made in a way where the UI matches vanilla for the default path

[frigid mica]

-# I meant to say card value manipulation, because it extends to all cards too

[lean dune]

I personally haven't looked too deep into it, but that does sound achievable to me

[full edge]

Yeah, that's fair

[lean dune]

Also I've been wanting to give playing cards somewhat of a rework for quite a while

[toxic cloud]

was SMODS.scale_card once an API not from smods itself

[lean dune]

however if quantum ranks are gonna be real, I'd rather build that on top of that than under it

[lean dune]

heck, SMODS.Joker was once an API not from smods itself

[toxic cloud]

I didn't mean that, but ok lmao

[lean dune]

I lied

SMODS.Tarot is though

[full edge]

Anyway, I'm sure the code'll change a bit, but in the release after this, there'll hopefully be a way to have any blind be a boss blind, separation between boss blinds and ante-ending blinds and stuff like that, and the ability to reroll any blind.

I also know that Eremel's still working on the weights branch

To add individual rarity modification to cards. Which would be great because with how much of an overhaul my code for that in Kino is, there's a constant risk of it breaking with other mods

[frigid mica]

I need the shit Ruby made for Entropy to be turned into an API in and of itself

[full edge]

She's doing that, no?

[frigid mica]

She is?

[toxic cloud]

Mayhem also does that for Planet cards I think

[full edge]

Half the words she says are API, haha

[frigid mica]

Like the “Cards can be any item” and Redeemable Decks?

And also more ascension power stuff

[full edge]

Not sure, I think so

[frigid mica]

I need to check ruby’s repo rq

[full edge]

I was gonna turn my system into an SMODS PR, but while mine works, I can't imagine Eremel doesn't make a great improvement on its ease of use, or performance

[frigid mica]

What the fuck

Lust?

Nvm

[lean dune]

not to mention each consumable type once being its own completely separated class with all common code existing thrice between them

ahem FederAPI

[full edge]

Was there a point where you were working on a mod of your own, rather than smods, aure?

[lean dune]

I do have mods of my own, though not a lot of them

SixSuits is where it all started

[toxic cloud]

cool

[lean dune]

most of what it was has turned into the current playing card API through multiple iterations

then there's Black Hole

[full edge]

That's based on that Steve Harvey snippet where he talks about how every man needs only 6 types of suit, right?

[lean dune]

nah

[toxic cloud]

uh, are you talking about the Spectral card or another mod

[lean dune]

I'm talking about Black Hole, the mod

which enables Balatro to be used with a screenreader

I didn't make the spectral, no

[woven crag]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Spectrallib/?

[austere whale]

entropy is cool, but playing a freaky card crashed my game once (not before for some reason) as the game failed to calculate log mult

[lean dune]

there's also survival mode, which is just some alternate ante scaling balanced around winning at ante 16

[woven crag]

did you have amulet

or talisman

[austere whale]

no..

[lean dune]

as well as The Chariot, which is a basic automatic shop reroller

[austere whale]

tailsman

talisman*

[woven crag]

i recall it being a talisman issue

[austere whale]

uh huh

well goodbye talisman

[woven crag]

since it only happens when trying to do the logarithm on a bignum

[austere whale]

my number was incredibly small tho

[lean dune]

I also worked on some of the smods example mods I think

[woven crag]

bignum as in like a number affected by talisman

not a number that happens to be big

[austere whale]

uh huh

okay, dowmloading amulet rn

[austere whale]

i need to make a freaky graph in desmos

i don't know how effective freaky is

[lean dune]

and I've technically contributed to Cryptid and Talisman

[woven crag]

freaky is quite powerful

especially if you get multiple

[austere whale]

what was the formula again...

y= xlog69 or something?

[woven crag]

its Xlog69(Chips) Chips

[austere whale]

huh what

[woven crag]

freaky

does that

[wanton surge]

Oh i thought it was just log(69

[austere whale]

how do i turn that into a desmos formula

[woven crag]

uhh

[full edge]

I need to look into the freaky shader soon, I want to make something similar for heartbreak counters

[woven crag]

you can do log69(x) for how much Xchips at x chips

ig

[wanton surge]

Type in "y = x ( log ( 69 x ) )

[austere whale]

also one thing i love about entropy is that whenever you click on an edition it makes the sound

[leaden vector]

I forgot how log worked for a second and was really confused

[austere whale]

you sure that works?

[wanton surge]

It should

[wanton surge]

Idfk what it does i just know it does smth

[leaden vector]

Imagine exponents but inverse

[wanton surge]

Oh yup

I think i remeber

[austere whale]

is this oke

[wanton surge]

Put x in thr brackets

[austere whale]

oke

what about now

[wanton surge]

Log 10 ( 10^2 ) = 2

Or smth

[wanton surge]

Can you show the graph?

What is the red line?

[leaden vector]

Indeed

[wanton surge]

Can be helpful sometimes

[frigid mica]

Ambatuswitch

[wanton surge]

Whuh

[frigid mica]

I had no idea they made a lib to contain 2 libs

Or all of them idk

[austere whale]

i have a feeling it's wrong

[wanton surge]

Probably

[leaden vector]

What's the kinda line you're tryna get?

[austere whale]

the freaky edition formula in entropy

[leaden vector]

Slow blink

[austere whale]

blink?

[leaden vector]

I am confused

@wanton surge, explain away

[leaden vector]

Ohhhhh

Shouldn't it be xLog69(x)?

[frigid mica]

Uhh

I think they mean the shader?

[leaden vector]

You're better at math, and im dying

[leaden vector]

Oh 😭

[austere whale]

i believe no cause the x in the beginning seems to be a multiplication?

[leaden vector]

Hm, well I have zero clue then

I am nowhere near qualified enough for big boy math

[wanton rapids]

y = (x log x) / log 69

that's the new result

[austere whale]

hmm i feel like this is right

hmm i want a graph now that tells me where it's weaker or stronger x2 chips

[wanton rapids]

it's X2 chips at 69^2

and X3 at 69^3

[austere whale]

nvm so if the value is lower than 4761, it's worse, if it's higher then freaky is better

[leaden vector]

Better idea, make a circle with a bunch of lines going through it

Without the polygon thing

[frigid mica]

where do i send crash logs for spectrallib

[wanton rapids]

entropy discord i guess

[austere whale]

huh what is that

[leaden vector]

A circle with lines in it

[austere whale]

what does it do

[leaden vector]

Nothing

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/feu1f7ohov

Silly name too

[austere whale]

lol

funny because i'm studying math

and i still forget how log works

this is cool

i don't understand a lot of it

but it's cool

about freaky, uh it's just a more complicated x2 chips

[toxic cloud]

I'd say it's a more complicated echips

since "the higher the chips, the more it gives" is also echips thing

[austere whale]

hm

what is eechips btw

i never could understand that one

is it chips^(x^x)?

[frigid mica]

I think so yea

[hard plank]

you see

I'm educated

[leaden vector]

Aren't you like 20

[woven crag]

chips^^x = chips^(chips^(... x times ...))

[hard plank]

23 this year

[leaden vector]

You're like 8 years older than me

[hard plank]

especially when i just took calculus 3 exam 4 days ago

and then linear algebra yesterday

[leaden vector]

Calculus...

Sends a shiver down my dih

[hard plank]

❌

[woven crag]

There isnt really a definition for decimal so people just add an additional ^(chips^(x-floor(x))) at the end

[leaden vector]

Is it as hard as they say?

[hard plank]

power rule n shit

[woven crag]

And repeat ceil(x) times instead

[austere whale]

i don't understand the (... x times ...) part

[woven crag]

e.g x^^4 = x^(x^(x^x))
(4 instances of x)

It definitely makes more sense when writing powers properly instead of on a single line

[fluid badger]

q

[austere whale]

ohhhh

^^ to ^ is what ^ is to ×

[woven crag]

Yea

[austere whale]

wow

i still have to figure out how exponents with decimals can be calculated manually but for now it doesn't matter much

[lost bolt]

getting a list of all jokers that cant be perishable for a challenge and noticing that almost all of them are my favorite jokers

[full edge]

^^ is to 🙂 what 🙂 is to 😊

I forgot it autoemotes

[fluid badger]

sigma

gradient creators are so good i should use them more

[formal orchid]

Play my mod

[fluid badger]

i already did

[formal orchid]

play more

[winged prism]

His greed...

[full edge]

I'll play some Revo's while RE9 installs, tonight, haha

[karmic compass]

collect my mods......

[fluid badger]

gonna be like a soul esc card that lets you create my rarity prob

i havent made the soul part yet

[karmic compass]

Macrophage

When discarding 1 card, this Joker remembers its rank, then destroy that card.
Any time a card of that rank is added to deck, immediately remove it from deck and gain Mult equal to its rank
(Currently +0 Mult)
(Currently eliminating [Rank])

does this work

[karmic compass]

fl studio consumable

[fluid badger]

gay consumable

[full edge]

A bit clunky, and potentially incredibly strong. Scaling mult at that rate can go pretty crazy

[karmic compass]

what if it's chips instead

would it be ass

[fluid badger]

just double the scaling

or triple

depends on what you find balanced

[karmic compass]

wdym ❌ thats so fl coded

[fluid badger]

ohhh your talking abt mangoes mb

i didnt click which one u replied

🥭

[karmic compass]

why des discrod mango looks like a peach

[fluid badger]

idk

🍑

¤

[austere whale]

you sure love scaling!

[full edge]

Even as chips, it's pretty strong, because it combines it with targeted deckfixing. Though the hoops you need to jump through might make it work out

[ember flicker]

i should add a setting to my brittle sigil so that if it can't be perishable then it can't be brittle

[karmic compass]

yeha the hope was that it encourage fixing but doesnt actually do much on the fixing front

like unless you're buying it late with an already fixed deck and are willing to pivot pretty hard

at most it's gonna remove like, 4 maybe 5 cards from your deck max

so it's a weak subtractive fixing and is technically anti-synergy with additive fixing

your main way of gaining cards is standard packs and shops, so you're burning money to gain scaling on this card

i say burning money because the cards are not getting added to deck so there is no secondary benefit

so i thought that would hopefully balances it out with the fast scaling

guys game design is hard who up here balancing their mechanics

[fluid badger]

wall of text

[karmic compass]

my borther in christ it's 8 sentences with 15 words or fewer

that's a paragraph at best

[full edge]

As chips, 4 or 5 triggers only brings you to 55 chips at best, so that's not too bad. At Mult, that's not a lot of effort for the strongest flat mult scaling you can get

[cloud willow]

gm chat

[karmic compass]

hewwo oomfie :3c

paws at u

[cloud willow]

omg FooBar reference :o /j

Had a neat idea for a cross mod joker once I woke up

gimme like 4 minutes ill send a ss

[vital python]

any idea what this joker does? on 0 error

i dont know if its worth taking just to learn what it does

i have a strong build now

[fluid badger]

Does something

[dreamy abyss]

glitch jokers are silly

[vital python]

hmm

interesting

ill make a copy of the save and test later. the run is good i cant afford being experimental

[lilac brook]

I dont get it I just want hot potato the sequel/DLC

I want more hot potato content

[strange abyss]

im looking at hotpot mod source code, does anyone know what Bonus Blinds is? i searched for a mod of this name but i found nothing

[lilac brook]

POTATO SEQUEL!!!!!

[polar oyster]

Maybe about events after every boss blinds

[strange abyss]

yeah it is called in the Tavern Encounter after boss blinds

it just looks as if the code was referenced from somewhere else but i have no clue what that somewhere else is

[fluid badger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cui_-C0iyhE?si=Crnu6mp9zEUSPL8W

[warped comet]

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[cloud willow]

okay this took way more than 4 minutes lmao

[fluid badger]

I’m gonna eat a cheeseburger

[cloud willow]

yummers

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[fluid badger]

Tbh that’s not even a good cryptid score

I’ve gotten more on my own mod

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[fluid badger]

Pretty sure the best cryptid scores are within like e1ee308

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[fluid badger]

No idea how it’s formatted

I just call it triple e

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[fluid badger]

I like astral card builds they are more effective

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[fluid badger]

With The Universe and oil lamps

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[cloud willow]

4 e's

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[fluid badger]

Figured

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