⚙・modding-general

[full edge]

Yeah, I think it's not as comfortably doable with the way Balatro and its RNG work, except by having a lot of scaling stuff that's impressive to scale highly, haha

I don't know how Ruby sees it, but I know that if someone would be put off by the balance of Balatro Goes Kino within 2 runs, I'd love to know, so I could figure out if their issue is one I want to and can resolve

[austere whale]

i think i can give feedback towards vanilla styled mods decently, i'm not sure how actually i would be able to give feedback with this one ;w;

[austere whale]

interesting, i didn't see it this way

[full edge]

Haha, it'll depend on the dev, but I know a loooot of people appreciate any well-intended feedback. Most mods don't get a lot of that, so it's always good to know what players were feeling when they were doing a run. And if they bounce off that's also good to know, because while they might just not be looking for the type of mod you've made, they might also have run into some design or balance issues you could look into

[formal orchid]

im down for any feedback

[ember crow]

hmm seems balanced enough, not very good when the deck is fixed but very good when it isnt, i like that about this joker

[keen quail]

i remember playing with something similar that was use one discard to do the same thing that was overpowered but this seems like a far more balanced version of that

[full edge]

Access to any guaranteed card is incredibly strong, but I don't think it reads as too strong for a rare, at least

[ember crow]

eh its useless when u have good deckfixing cuz u can draw the card anyways, but not very useful early game cuz u dont have a card u really want to draw yet

its perfect for the midgame tho

well ig it could help u get that straight or flush early game

[austere whale]

i don't believe they're a bad concept but they certainly don't feel "very vanilla" cause of how rare they are. i could argue that about vanilla tier2s too but for much less.
maybe if there were more additions about the voucher mechanic they'd be more cool. like uh, having a joker/card make tier 3 vouchers spawn in the shop right as tier 2s are redeemed (this can be a voucher too lol). or another joker/card that makes available higher tier vouchers have a much higher chance to appear, be guaranteed to appear or appear upon a trigger like boss blind defeat.
there are just ideas, i dunno if anything like these are enough for new vouchers to exist in the vanilla voucher system.

[full edge]

Early game it'll basically allow you to fish for any strong hand with more consistency. If you have any specific enhancements or cards that retrigger, or help with econ, it's also pretty decent. Late game on higher stakes, any consistency is great, especially if you're not guaranteed to beat ante 8. That's my experience with the joker in my mod that allows you to draw a specific card from your deck, at least

But I can imagine that it's not that useful for endless

[ember crow]

true, but this takes up a joker slot, so i think its bal as an uncommon

[full edge]

My experience is that generally the strongest effects are anything that reduces chance. A guaranteed card means you're always closer to being able to fix a good hand, always able to get an enhancement or seal you'd need, etc. It would allow you always have your blue seal in your final hand, for example, or always draw your purple seal to discard. If your jokers synergize with specific ranks or suits, you can use it to grab the missing piece for that, especially when you're playing towards 5 card hands that limit how much space you have to discard and draw new cards

[austere whale]

to me it's a much better juggler

if it makes sense

[full edge]

yeah, it does. It's +1 handsize and you get to choose

[austere whale]

what if it had the downside of -1 hand size

[keen quail]

vanilla t2 vouchers are really cool when you can get them usually even if a bit rare (tho tbf the odds to get a t2 are pretty good if you get a few t1 vouchers)
but yea, without smthn like golden voucher tag t3s are a bit crazy, but you also have to keep t3s reasonable if there's smthn to make them easier to get (tho tbf i'm talking about cryptid and balance in the same sentence, that's like pineapple and pizza)

[storm forum]

🤖

[austere whale]

mhm

also another thing with existence of t3s is

with purchasing t2s

[full edge]

tier 3 vouchers are pretty quickly a cryptid-esque mechanic to me, just due to balance reasons

[austere whale]

you can't block the chance of getting another voucher of that lineup

which is what i do in vanilla

[keen quail]

t4 voucher: thousand hands
+1000 hands

[cloud willow]

hmmm
idk
you only get value out of it once a round

[austere whale]

cause i don't want observatory to appear 3 times in my nebula deck

[keen quail]

ah true

[full edge]

I'd just test it out at rare/uncommon, and see if it needs balancing, Foo. Balance is so damn hard to judge without playing with it

[cloud willow]

yep
thats why I've been releasing my current development lol

[full edge]

Especially because mechanics like that become harder to judge the more synergy there is for it

[austere whale]

mhm i'm aware. to me it's a lot better than the vanilla joker juggler. instead of drawing a random card with juggler, you draw a card of your own choice (huge benefit) with this guy.

[keen quail]

insert ☝️ react here

[austere whale]

so maybe instead of acting like a juggler

it can act as a rng demolisher "only"

as it already does without -1 hand size downside

[full edge]

Any card game is about RNG manipulation to a certain degree. It's why card draw is such a strong effect in most games, and unlimited tutoring is even stronger

[austere whale]

true

[full edge]

And RNG is also what makes your runs separate from each other. I'd personally be more likely to put stuff that makes the game less random at rare mostly because if you offer consistency consistently, runs are more likely to start feeling samey

[austere whale]

true

this is how i feel about

blue seal pair runs

videogame balance is fun i should make a mod fr

[full edge]

It's the biggest design tension in vanilla balatro, honestly. Small hands are more consistent, planets are consistent. The harder you make the game with stakes, the more difficult it becomes to make bigger hands a viable option

I'm in the process of trying to balance #1340334060597285025 and any insight is always welcome 😛

[austere whale]

i believe the current vanilla mechanics are good enough but

not perfect

watching doc's video about balance was interesting to me because i learnt how many interactions would change with some mechanic changes

[austere whale]

350 jokers...

woaw

[full edge]

I'm sure there's a theoratical better version of vanilla out there, but I think for what it is, Balatro's already amazingly well done.

I should update the title

it's 375

[rain orbit]

Perfect you say

[austere whale]

true true

[austere whale]

omfg

[frigid mica]

G.consumables or G.consumeables?

[full edge]

Also, being able to balance a game at both white stake and gold stake seems so difficult. I feel like anything that would make gold stake less pair-dependant runs the risk of making white stake flat out easier

[rain orbit]

Where's a blank template for booster packs

[austere whale]

is that really a bad thing tho?

[keen quail]

eh, blue stake changing would def be smthn to help with finding larger hands

[austere whale]

new players already struggle at white stake and i don't see why white stake being the easy stake even more would be bad considering other stakes exist as a difficulty option

[undone surge]

no

[full edge]

oh for sure, but changing the stakes doesn't impact earlier stakes ofc

[rain orbit]

Grrrrr white stake SUCKS gold and gold stake is PEAK

Also blue stake MEGA SUCKS

[full edge]

Yeah, that's true, as well. I think it'll be difficult to find that balance regardless, but it's for sure possible

[undone surge]

i feel so relieved after beating Golden stake so easily and then playing at White stake with the feeling of like “omg , it’s so easy”

[austere whale]

so you're implying the stakes themselves should be changed rather than the mechanics?
i have a feeling that's not what you meant

[keen quail]

relatable (though tbh both my gs runs were legend carried idk how considering i only had like 10 attempts combined across them)

[keen quail]

they were replying to my statement, i think they originally meant mech changes

[austere whale]

same lol

[full edge]

Oh no, that was in response to Auctoria mentioning blue stake could be changed, which I definitely agree with

[austere whale]

oh i understand now

sorri

[full edge]

Something I tried with my own blinds was to rarely set them up so they punish big hands, specifically because that's something inherent to the game already. It's pretty hard for a mod, mine included, to not accidentally make high card or pair builds even stronger than they already are, haha

[austere whale]

lol true

i do like me some flush supremacy once in a while

[full edge]

But I suspect some number rebalancing would be fine. I just don't envy Thunk needing to balance for multiple stakes, because in my experience pulling any balance lever for gold stake purposes moves a lever at other stakes too, and with a very different strength

Probably a general game design issue, honestly. Like how in many e-sports games nerfing specific characters due to pro-play makes them functionally unusable for novice players

[undone surge]

literally Steve from SSBUltimate

[austere whale]

that's a good example

[full edge]

Basically the reverse of designing stuff for your homebrew TTRPG campaign. Where if you ask for some feedback on a magic item, you'll get someone telling you how it breaks a specific build, but you know it's not really something that matters because it's just for 5 people you know aren't playing that build to interact with, haha

[undone surge]

that the problem that Wiplash Joker has

[austere whale]

wiplash

who

[undone surge]

.

[austere whale]

uh huh

[undone surge]

Wiplash Gemmick sounds OP at Early ante game

[full edge]

I'd compare that more with the first example, because I assume a joker like that feels only slightly useful to your average player, but give it to someone like Doc and he'd be able to use it to win every run with it

[austere whale]

it is op in the whole game

[undone surge]

Like for being an Uncommon.?

[austere whale]

you basically need one less card to finish any poker hand and it garauntees seeing your value generators

[undone surge]

that’s too OP, the fact that you can draw any card of your deck, it’s just too Broken

[undone surge]

exactly, and that’s the problem

[austere whale]

also it's like juggler's +1 hand size
except juggler draws a random card

[undone surge]

yeah

some people were saying that “but with that you cam make infinite possibilities at early game”

yo ,pls focus on doing a balanced mod

💔

[austere whale]

i believe foobar is fun!

it's not very balanced tho..

considering the other jokers it adds

[undone surge]

yes

huge problem

[full edge]

The nearest equivalent mechanic I have for that mechanic in Kino only works for a specific modded enhancement to be drawn, so that you can't use it in every possible build to force specific draws

[austere whale]

i'd say it fits in with them

not with the vanilla game

[undone surge]

yes

people trynna make OP Balatro mods

It’s completelly uncessesary

tbh

[austere whale]

that's a nice restriction

[austere whale]

that's not what i was trying to say

[undone surge]

?

[austere whale]

it's not unnecessary to make op mods

[full edge]

I think a lot of mods aren't trying to be OP, balance is just difficult. Especially if you expand the joker pool

[austere whale]

people can do whatever the fuck they want

[full edge]

The more synergy that exists the easier the game will be to break

[austere whale]

unnecessary is kinda a big word to say

[undone surge]

yes, it is, For that I download Cryptid, and that's it

[austere whale]

❌

[undone surge]

Cryptid does the work

[austere whale]

so do other op mods

just because there's ONE good mod

it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any other in that category

[full edge]

My experience with my own mod is that the way it's balanced is this weird feast or famine balance, where you either die quickly or crush ante 8. Part of that is due to there being a lot of pay-off pieces and fewer set up pieces, but that means that once you stabilize, it's pretty easy to expand your build into something that's too consistent

[austere whale]

ortalab is a good reverse mod, but it doesn't mean other reverse mods shouldn't exist

[undone surge]

still, people would rather to play Cryptid because youtubers already played, also, people will not play some OP random mods in the Mod Manager wihout sponsoring,

[austere whale]

blindside is a good game overhaul mod, it doesn't mean there should be no other overhauling mods

[undone surge]

Ortalab It’s a pretty curious mod

they Reversed everysingle card

[austere whale]

i'm gonna be honest

most mods are not gonna see more than a few hundred players

that is not to discourage modders to make what they want

so

[undone surge]

not if they are not sponsored by youtubers or a trailer mod

[austere whale]

i'd say those numbers don't matter

[full edge]

the modding community is really small

[austere whale]

true

[austere whale]

❌

[undone surge]

i mean yeah

[full edge]

Most people that play a balatro mod play a few Cryptid runs basically as a cap stone for their time with Balatro, and then move on

[undone surge]

speaking of moving on

Guys, what’s the Balatro mod that replicates Vanilla Feeling at it’s perfection

???

[austere whale]

those are unnecessary
ortalab is a really great mod, it's my favourite mod and i believe it's the "best" balatro mod even tho it might objectively not be.
even then, it hasn't been played by that many people

[undone surge]

yeah

[austere whale]

popular ≠ good

[undone surge]

yes i know

[undone surge]

??

[austere whale]

yeah

[undone surge]

and we are talking about, Art, Balance, etc

[austere whale]

there are some mods out there tho i have not played them

[dusty token]

perfection is subjective

[undone surge]

New functions are allowed to menction btw

[austere whale]

i've heard extra credits is good at that but i have not personally played it

[undone surge]

try Paperback

[full edge]

Ortalab's one of the best just with how polished it is. Most mods mainly just add stuff, but Ortalab ended up being very designed, which is really cool

[austere whale]

paperback is not vanilla

it's very awesome

[undone surge]

extra credit itsnmy that vanilla

[austere whale]

but it's just not vanilla

[undone surge]

i know, it REPLICATES the vanilla feeling

[full edge]

it's part of what I'm trying to have Kino end up being, with it being a very designed, overhauled experience

[undone surge]

Dichromed Edition it’s so good

[austere whale]

true! that's what i liked about it, especially because i played its own stake which removed the vanilla content so its content didn't look as "additions" anymore

[undone surge]

it’s sound effect reminds me of SM64

[austere whale]

not to me at least

[undone surge]

???

[austere whale]

mhm sounds fun

[austere whale]

what does it have to make you feel like it's "vanilla like"

[undone surge]

Ortalab just adds oppsite Cards, new Booster Packs, and new blinds, it’s art is very polished, that makes it lose it’s vanilla feeling

[austere whale]

i never said ortalab is vanilla

ortalab is even intended to be played on "no vanilla mode"

[undone surge]

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW A MOD CAN IMITATE VANILLA EXPERIENCE

[full edge]

no need to all caps

[austere whale]

i thought we were talking about how paperback did it

[undone surge]

FEEL LIKE IT WAS CREATED BY LOCALTHUNK

[wicked jasper]

calm

[undone surge]

yes we are

[full edge]

I think vanilla's a nebulous concept that's hard to define and different for every player, generally

[austere whale]

which i was disagreeing with

[undone surge]

elaborate

[austere whale]

fun! i want to see some examples on why you think that way

[full edge]

Thunk himself doesn't like the notion of vanilla, or the idea that there are mods that are vanilla or not, because it implies there's limits to what he'd add in potential updates, that might not be true at all

[austere whale]

interesting

[undone surge]

Minor Arcana Packs
Two New SUITS (Crowns and Stars)
Enchanctments
12 new Joker Pages
UST
Decks

etc

there’s much more

[full edge]

I think what makes a mod vanilla or not is whether it allows you to cast spells 🤔

[austere whale]

those.. are just what the mod adds. i was looking for explanations

[wicked jasper]

tetration in 1.1

[undone surge]

Paperback imitates Localthunk art

[austere whale]

🙏

[undone surge]

Look at the art content

and tell me if not

[austere whale]

the art in paperback is fantastic

but it doesn't look like what thunk would draw

[undone surge]

*-10%

it’s 90 percent accurate to localthunk art, in my opinion

[full edge]

explicit references to pop culture make it impossible, haha. Oceans 11 as a joker, or something with undertale characters makes it super clear you're playing modded, in my experience

[undone surge]

itsn’t 100 percent oviously

[austere whale]

paperback's art is very colorful and fun
in vanilla the arts are more symbolic/realistic and way less saturated

[undone surge]

Paperback it’s literally the opposite of what you just said

Art has much less saturation

[austere whale]

wizard mode when

[undone surge]

on everytubg

[full edge]

launch kino and press s to open your spellbook

[undone surge]

Paperback it’s so good, that at first i though the feeling that it was a DLC

[austere whale]

there are so many pop culture references and album covers
they're very fun tho not something thunk would reference
thunk would rather reference how a fruit from hundreds of years ago has went extinct or why there's so many different cards used in modern day

[full edge]

It's not just whether thunk would or not, it's that as an officially released game, you can't just use IP you don't own, ofc

[austere whale]

to me it looks pretty colorful and the color palette seems to be much different 🤔

[austere whale]

true lol

maybe thunk would reference something like gangnam style 🤔

[full edge]

I mean, there are very clear references around. S Club 7, 2001 a space odyssey. Any reference is just inherently more slanted to make it less obvious. I'm sure Thunk wouldn't phrase it this way himself, or even think about it this way, but my general feeling is that vanilla's references never make you feel like you're looking at a reference (outside of friends of Jimbo) that makes you wonder what IP that art has to be from

Obelisk is an obelisk regardless of whether you think it's a 2001 reference, after all

[austere whale]

true!

on a sidenote i have stopped playing sagatro

[wanton rapids]

yeah you shouldnt feel like you're missing out if you dont get it

[austere whale]

i feel like i did not find sagatro as fun as i thought it would be

storymode is a very fun concept but

idk it feels very very limiting to me

[full edge]

I really liked it but it's not a mod I want to play too often. It's less so a roguelike deckbuilder like balatro and more so a roguelike puzzlebox like Blue Prince

[austere whale]

mhm

[full edge]

Losing a run resets progress that's mainly just effort that the RNG might not return. But I don't mind taking a break and giving it another shot a week later, haha

[austere whale]

interesting

[full edge]

on that note, build variety is one of those things that vanilla is so good at that I find is hard to get right in a mod. I know for mine, there's definitely a lot of explicit synergies that are sometimes a bit too guided. In vanilla, there's some known builds for endless, and you've got photochad as a fallback, but you can win with so many different set ups

The generic nature of the jokers make it so you can make a bunch of different set ups, even if it's not the end-game build

[austere whale]

true true, i like vanilla's variety a lot

[full edge]

It's one thing most mods just struggle with, though entirely understandably, because I suspect you need to playtest and touch up your content a lot to hit the right spot

[austere whale]

yeah i find doing minigames with my scoring and value generators in midgame more fun

looking for endgame jokers is probably when i wanna stop

value generating with jokers

i definitely would not hold a sixth sense till ante 8

[austere whale]

mhm

i'm gonna do an entropy run again

see what is it about again

currently doing a

full unlocked profile

[austere whale]

should i not do that?

[full edge]

I'm not sure, it'll depend on the mod

I haven't played Entropy in a good while

I think in many cases it's more so whether you want to commit to playing the mod for longer, with the risk of a lot of mechanics being introduced all at once if you play with full unlocks immediately

[molten laurel]

Hey guys, I'm trying to make an alternate joker description in the sorts of "Roses are red, violets are blue, ..." - how should I end it, give me ideas

[wanton rapids]

does it have to have this effect?

[limpid lake]

"... and not not NaN == true"
that's dumb but it's the first idea i had

[molten laurel]

doesn't have to describe the effect

[limpid lake]

some unintuitive fact about truthiness in lua

[toxic cloud]

"Hearts are Red, Clubs are Blue, more Tarot for Spades and shiny Diamonds for you"

[winged prism]

Is ahead under the joker your cursor 😭

[molten laurel]

yes

you can too get it in my Wee Cursors mod in my github in my discord description

[winged prism]

That's pretty sick but I can't imagine upright cursor being enjoyable

[molten laurel]

you should see how I turn cloud 9 into a cursor - the tip of the 9

[winged prism]

Oh my god😭

[foggy crag]

Can someone give me a link to Balatro Modded wiki serv?

Cant find it anywhere

[full edge]

https://discord.gg/S2ZuVhG8

[cloud willow]

D:

what specifically seems broken
(dont count decks those are intentionally strong)

[formal orchid]

i really need to update my wiki

[balmy lily]

"Whats so different about The Tax you ask?"

[tardy sigil]

@full edge made this cuz i was bored you can use it if you want lol

[toxic cloud]

ok, this is a bold answer from me ngl

[austere whale]

2i?

[toxic cloud]

story mode sets the 2i

[austere whale]

hm

[austere whale]

some cards were just broken lol

for example fryer triggering every hand is very strong

you can delete 12 cards every ante

[cloud willow]

interesting idea

Non-euclidean Geometry
5 cards of descending rank are considered a straight
cards have a 1 in 3 chance to become stone cards when scored

[cloud willow]

think a probability would work?

[austere whale]

hmm maybe

[toxic cloud]

descending rank?

[cloud willow]

like ace, queen, 7, 4, 2 is a straight

[austere whale]

tho slapping a probability to nerf something is not my favourite way of balancing

[toxic cloud]

that's a pretty bad idea

[austere whale]

huh what does that mean

what's the pattern

[toxic cloud]

considering ||Gay from Cold Beans being a 5-card hand that's neither a flush nor a straight||

[cloud willow]

.

[toxic cloud]

||Gay|| would also follow that logic

[austere whale]

how is that calculated to be a straight, i don't know what decsending ranks are

[cloud willow]

id have it do stuff with the is_straight function or whatever its called

[cloud willow]

Ace > queen > 7 > 4 > 2

[toxic cloud]

card order does not matter when determining a poker hand

that's the problem

[cloud willow]

does it not recieve a list like table?

[austere whale]

... so basically every hand can be a straight as long as you don't repeat ranks (rearranging exists)

[cloud willow]

somehow didn't think of that

nvm thats way to strong

[toxic cloud]

it receives a list of cards and always reorder them to make the best poker hand possible

[austere whale]

lmao

[toxic cloud]

hence you can scramble a straight and it's still a straight

[normal hollow]

i mean it would be very easy to do this effect

it would just be bad

[austere whale]

you can disable rearranging as a downside

or disable the effect upon rearranging

[normal hollow]

and shuffle the hand every play or something

so they're not prearranged

[undone surge]

neither, it’s a Spectrum

[toxic cloud]

but Cold Beans ||doesn't add new suits iirc||

Spectrum only makes sense when there are 5 suits or more

[cloud willow]

@austere whale anything else you've noticed?

[austere whale]

imbalance you mean?

yeah actually but i have to replay the mod

[cloud willow]

ah okay

[austere whale]

has it been updated since i played it?

[cloud willow]

its on 0.6.2 rn

idk what it was when u played it last

[undone surge]

like Bunco, the previously menctioned Paperback, etc

[austere whale]

0.4

was my version

[fair stag]

where are most mods found

[formal orchid]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209506514763522108 or https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

[fair stag]

should mods be assumed incompatible with other mods unless stated otherwise

[formal orchid]

other way around

assume they're compatible until it crashes

atleast thats what i do

[storm forum]

Or unless any given mod explicitly states the incompatibility, be it via crashing or Steamodded saying such.

[cloud willow]

what they said

[rose prairie]

Thoughs, critisism wanted

[austere whale]

that's broken oh my god

[formal orchid]

what the hell

[austere whale]

so uh two points

1. why is it uncommon, isn't that a poker hand xmult joker
2. 4x mult is broken and is not given easily at least in vanilla, take loyalty card for example

[wanton rapids]

X(2.5? just pair is X2 so idk) Mult and rare tbh,

2 pair is about as easy if not slightly easier than flush to build

[limpid lake]

poker hand xmult is rare and typically lower than that

[rose prairie]

ok, so 2x mult and rare instead?

[austere whale]

that sounds nice

[wanton rapids]

actually 2.5 since just pair is 2

[limpid lake]

2.5 probably
somewhere between 2 and 3

[obtuse quiver]

wait don't vanillia have this

[quaint python]

does anyone know how to make a joker turn into a differnet joke on jokerforge

[obtuse quiver]

or am i trippin

[wanton rapids]

cryptid and probably a bunch of other mods

[austere whale]

nope

[wanton rapids]

the family is 4oak

[obtuse quiver]

oh

[limpid lake]

it does not
it has two pair +mult and +chips

[obtuse quiver]

yea i must have missremembered

[quaint python]

kind of like there is a chance it just turns into a whole new joker

[fair stag]

is there a reason why cryptid seems to crash so early on

[limpid lake]

they used to all be 4oak but then thunk changed the commons to two pair

[limpid lake]

probably the color bug with current release smods

[wanton rapids]

the codebase is generally kind of messy at present

also that

[limpid lake]

also that

[austere whale]

wow that was... fast

[ember flicker]

stake that reduces play selection by 1

[austere whale]

but uh

[wanton rapids]

no

[austere whale]

at this point it's a worse the duo?

hmm idkk...

[rose prairie]

This more balenced?
Also synergizes with the 3 of a kind and pair The XXX Cards

[limber oak]

what do yall think of my music taste (vessel is here cuz the music is tied to him)

[wanton rapids]

5 card hands get implicitly punished by high stakes, outright removing them is Not a Good Idea

[toxic cloud]

X2 is fine
since The Duo is also X2, I recommend lowering the price to $7

[fair stag]

what mods are known for adding a bunch of decks or jokers?

[ember flicker]

:trol:

[rose prairie]

Good thought

thank you

[austere whale]

i believe it's better but it's worse than "the duo"... idk what to change about it personally

[limpid lake]

i believe there's a mod literally called "too many decks"

[obtuse quiver]

mhm...

[toxic cloud]

SauKhongHuDecks has more decks than Too Many Decks

[fluid badger]

[fair stag]

what about a bunch of jokers

[rose prairie]

I dont think that matters much for my vanilla ish mod as jokers can be worse than others

[balmy lily]

decked out

[rose prairie]

I think synergies might make up for it

[balmy lily]

just download a shit ton of large scale mods and pray

[wanton rapids]

#1340334060597285025 and #1338302514616995892 have a ton of jokers but also add a lot of mechanics

[austere whale]

i suggest 2.5x or 3x mult but if you say so

[rose prairie]

maybe 2.5

[fluid badger]

There was this one mod I got off a sketchy website that had 1k

[formal orchid]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325147180280971294

[balmy lily]

modid?

[fluid badger]

hi revo

[toxic cloud]

#1366605767167443006

[formal orchid]

is that the balatro odysey bullshit thing

[fluid badger]

Yes

[formal orchid]

fuck

[austere whale]

meow

[formal orchid]

delete it

[fluid badger]

I did a long time ago

[austere whale]

what is balatro odyssey bs thing

[formal orchid]

also hi

[wanton rapids]

ai slop mod

[formal orchid]

its a mod completely made by ai

no need to talk more about t

[fluid badger]

Ohhh

[austere whale]

uh huh okay

[fluid badger]

Is the art ai?

[formal orchid]

everything

[fluid badger]

Zamn

[austere whale]

i like to make a deck skin mod

but probably no one will play it lol

[fluid badger]

Also gl with c++

[formal orchid]

deck skin mods are cool

[austere whale]

is there a place to look for deck skins mod specifically?

[formal orchid]

the wiki

[austere whale]

ty!

[austere whale]

hm fair

[formal orchid]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Deck_Skins

[fluid badger]

I want dltr and ut ones but idk where to find them

[obtuse quiver]

Looks at my own retexture mod

[ember flicker]

i believe there is a github repo with most deck skins

[obtuse quiver]

mmmmmm

[formal orchid]

i think the links here lead to the repo feli mentioned

[austere whale]

i took screenshots of some, they were in the link revo sent

[ember flicker]

https://github.com/Sesebasti/BalatroDeckSkins

[austere whale]

where 👀

[ember flicker]

deltarune is in there

[fluid badger]

I see

[obtuse quiver]

well it's in the updating phase...

and...

well...

whoops....

[ember flicker]

its in the crash phase

[austere whale]

whoops

[obtuse quiver]

I sent the error in the modding dev

[fluid badger]

Idk why he’s playing 7s but gaming

[obtuse quiver]

I have no clue on what i did wrong

[austere whale]

this looks outdated but is a good basic source

[ember flicker]

did u restrict the pool for the pelt printer or can it bloat the deck without having pelts enabled

[austere whale]

7s seem to be really good at mods

[formal orchid]

it cant appear if you dont have the pelt voucher

[ember flicker]

wait which pelt voucher

trap or market

[formal orchid]

the one which

lests them

appear

[ember flicker]

oh you took the same key lol

[fluid badger]

Last time I played ur mod I over saturated it with like 10 other mods so I saw like, the superior printer and that’s it

[formal orchid]

pelt printer is cross-mod

[fluid badger]

I think the superior cards were bugged but maybe that’s bc I was on cryptid glitched deck and ur stuff isnt variables

[formal orchid]

ssh

don't mention hardcoded stuff

[fluid badger]

:/

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[ember flicker]

did u ship the mod to release or do i have to fetch it from dev

[austere whale]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Deltarune_Face_Cards
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Deltarune_Deck_(SpilledPaints)
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Deltarune_Deck_(Nolo33lp)
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Undertale_Deck

oops sorry

[fluid badger]

Holy embed

[austere whale]

much better

[fluid badger]

Insanity, visualized

[ember flicker]

what the fuck

how many sanses did they add in deltarune

[strong obsidian]

Paperback also has a Deltarune one for one of it's cool looking suits.

[fluid badger]

They are no aus don’t worry abt it

[austere whale]

there is one

[fluid badger]

I’m aware

Stars

[ember flicker]

what do you mean no australians

[austere whale]

yeah but i personally am not a fan of it

[fluid badger]

Au means alternate universe

Basically refers to sanses that don’t have an au but aren’t in undertale

[strong obsidian]

A simple redownload won't hurt, you don't have to redownload Finity.

[ember flicker]

so oc's

[fluid badger]

Basically

[austere whale]

finity doesn't seem to be working for me sadly

sorry :(

[formal orchid]

if this is to me i havent updated the mod yet

im waiting for the next smods

[ember flicker]

a head tilt away from this not being postable

[ember flicker]

ooh

[formal orchid]

cause i use CanvasSprite / Screenshaders

[fluid badger]

Wait why

[ember flicker]

his cap has the r word on it

lol

[formal orchid]

and im kinda waiting for some art

• more content ideas

[ember flicker]

i should do ur joker

but i have sovlware i queue

[fluid badger]

I don’t see it

[formal orchid]

take your time

[ember flicker]

thats why i said a head tilt away from this not being postable

if he tilted down

you would see

i know this guy

@formal orchid so u looked for if v_felijo_beartrap was bought or if G.GAME.felijo_pelts_enabled

[fluid badger]

I want to learn more balala but I don’t know anything abt the various definitions that mods use

[formal orchid]

voucher i think

[fluid badger]

and just vanilla stuffs

[fluid badger]

Honestly wondering why I even have 1k bmm downloads I don’t really deserve it :/

[ember flicker]

whats ur mod

[fluid badger]

it’s next to my name, prob don’t know that it stands for tho reasonably

[formal orchid]

where to see bmm downloads

[fluid badger]

Just click on the mod

[ember flicker]

yeah ++ i dont use bmm

[formal orchid]

i never checked

i don't have bmm

[austere whale]

looks gokd

[formal orchid]

cant believe im gonna download bmm just to check

[ember flicker]

you want me to check your downloads

i'm on imm

[formal orchid]

i' appreciate it

[fluid badger]

How much do I have on imm

[ember flicker]

uhhh i have bad news

[fluid badger]

I’m on page 5 of content

Bmm

[fluid badger]

???

[ember flicker]

it doesnt say

[formal orchid]

rip

[fluid badger]

Btw this isn’t a good VFX it sucks

[formal orchid]

damn i have 4.8k downloads

and my shit is outdated as hell 😭

[fluid badger]

God

Damn

Have I gone up

I’m on page 5 content I believe

[stable juniper]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfl-R7xOqNB3ktfuR87FcWuBKtgmWx3meKhuD1Zw01t8eariA/viewform?usp=header

[formal orchid]

1028

i just searched

[fluid badger]

Zamn

[stable juniper]

I think I'm gonna spin the wheel tonight, so get your submissions in ^^

[ember flicker]

god the new studio layout is fucking ass

[fluid badger]

I like that your able to create tabs

Basically the only plus tho

[ember flicker]

i dont see the point because every tab makes sense

[wanton rapids]

im considering putting morefluff on there but there's unfinished art and also like two texture sets

[fluid badger]

Well I can put the various plugins and stuff I need for VFX on one tab so I don’t have to switch between them

[wanton rapids]

ah why not

[fluid badger]

Illumina?

[ember flicker]

yeah

[fluid badger]

I stopped playing Roblox because the platform sucks

[fluid badger]

An I can’t find good games that aren’t glazed to death

[fluid badger]

This art is so good

[ember flicker]

which art

[fluid badger]

Wish I was good in pixel art

[wanton rapids]

those who hammer or something

[fluid badger]

Joker art

[ember flicker]

yup

[ember flicker]

which one

[fluid badger]

All of em

[rain orbit]

[ember flicker]

check this out

[fluid badger]

Holy shit he’s blue

[fluid badger]

Blue Garfield and Green Sans

[fluid badger]

Bro getting the slash treatment

[ember flicker]

i have prepared like a bunch of old roblox skybox bgs

my babies

[formal orchid]

soon i'll be up there

[ember flicker]

soon

i need to give ur mod a spin

[formal orchid]

yes

i'll update the dev branch

soon

[fluid badger]

I’ve never played Felis mods before but I played revos vault soooo

[ember flicker]

because i dont put it in imm

or bmm

[fluid badger]

Oh

[ember flicker]

because its not done enough

@formal orchid if you do it today i might give your pelt printer a spin

[fluid badger]

Card pronouns lmao

[ember flicker]

i crossmod cardpronouns

[formal orchid]

i probably will after an hour or two 👍

[ember flicker]

i'll lose in the meantime lol

[fluid badger]

I should cross-mod deck sleeves too

[ember flicker]

wdym crossmod deck skin

oh

yeah

probably

[fluid badger]

I’m a dingus

Like how im screenshotting my gifs because i dont have perms for them 😭

[woven crag]

Download them cro

You can upload gif files

[fluid badger]

I don’t wanna

[formal orchid]

https://imgur.com/a/0B1ltXm

[ember flicker]

bloom is so busted

i just have two blooms and cookie cats

its so busted

[pseudo quail]

what would be an appropriate rarity for the effect
After defeating a Boss Blind, earn $1 for every non-end-of-round source of $ earned this ante

[ember flicker]

deck fix econ jokers

wait i misread

[pseudo quail]

i can't decide whether uncommon or rare
bear in mind it would be $1 per regardless of the $ earned from the source. so each gold card trigger would add $1 to the total
so if you do an ante where you trigger gold cards 5 times and sell 3 cards, that's $8

[wanton rapids]

if i had reserved parking trigger 50 times is that 1 dollar or 50 dollars

[limber gull]

Erm

What the sigma

[pseudo quail]

50

[wanton rapids]

one of your mods isn't compatible with talisman

[limber gull]

I guess I don't really need Talisman

[pseudo quail]

i guess rare then

[ember flicker]

@formal orchid are there supposed to be antichrome playing cards

[formal orchid]

yes

[ancient sinew]

replae it with amulet

[austere whale]

that's so busted

i'd say rare

maybe uncommon

selling, gold cards, hermit, temperance

there's just so much money you can get

[pseudo quail]

true. i'd nerf the effect, but i'm not sure how

[austere whale]

hmm

maybe restrict the ways you can trigger it

or put a cap on it

🧢

[ember flicker]

@formal orchid you should add a tool tip to what printer's seal does on brush

[formal orchid]

oh i forgot

thank u

[austere whale]

i'm making a deck skin

is there like

uh an effect or something

you're supposed to put on

to make cards look

high contrast?

are you supposed to use a color palette

[ember flicker]

i dont think fragile is destroying random played cards after scoring

@formal orchid

[formal orchid]

it does but

i think i fixed it on my end

[rose prairie]

Thoughts, should it be a common just to match with the other 2 (Juggler and Drunkard)
Or should I change it up.
Also is the design good or should I change that?

Any and all critisism welcomed

[formal orchid]

it just destroys them when they go to the discard area

[ember flicker]

i dont think it did that because the only destroyed cards were from my superior hanged man

[austere whale]

i think it's pretty good

maybe the design could be a bit different

since as far as i know drunkard and juggler are a little bit different

[covert plover]

man I love the heisburg deck

[austere whale]

hmm

[novel heron]

work is so dogshit man

[austere whale]

juggler has a head band, drunkard doesn't
juggler throws balls, drunkard throws bottles
juggler has liney things around him, drunkard has.. white things?

their robes also seems to be different

[rose prairie]

This look better?

[austere whale]

yeah that's an improvement!

[rose prairie]

oops

[austere whale]

also be sure to make the guy on the bottom have the same stuff

[rose prairie]

yep

just noticed it too

@austere whale Seem about right?

[novel heron]

looks nice

i would buy it

[ember flicker]

@formal orchid the eyes crashed my game

[formal orchid]

can you send the crash in the thread

[ember flicker]

also was it supposed to destroy the left most and destroy the right most

its the copy card function

[austere whale]

yep it's okay now

[stable juniper]

gonna be doing the Ghost Cards wheel in 40 or so minutes!

if you have a mod you'd like to see ghostified, send it in! https://forms.gle/1aHroWvMCjbDoo359

[formal orchid]

why are some mods duplicated

[stable juniper]

submitted by different people ^U^

i can remove the dupes if you want

[formal orchid]

oh my mod was submitted by someone else?

damn

[stable juniper]

🫵 popular

[formal orchid]

🙏🔥

[stable juniper]

mm i was gonna say who submitted it, but i think i should keep everyone anonymous

[formal orchid]

fair enough

give me 1 letter

[stable juniper]

uhmmmm

V

[formal orchid]

hmm

ye idk

[fluid badger]

I’m not worthy of being on the wheel

Ig

wait no im stupid i have to submit

[novel heron]

what does ghostified mean in this context?

[rain orbit]

I would send the github link but it's so outdated and shitty that I'd rather just send a zip of a recent test build

[fluid badger]

tbh i dont even know how to use github i just insert zips through the releases tab and it works

[rain orbit]

Idk how to either

[austere whale]

can you link a message to the latest build, i can't figure out which one is the latest

[novel heron]

nvm i just read the form

[austere whale]

i think it's a texture pack?

[fluid badger]

who knows, eub ftw tho

[austere whale]

i believe i remember seeing something ghosty on the wiki

[novel heron]

phanta phanta phanta

peak mod

[fluid badger]

oh no

[austere whale]

photophoto

[stable juniper]

texture pack :3

[fluid badger]

why is it able to print editions

[stable juniper]

the jokers get ghostified

[fluid badger]

oh shit

[novel heron]

ahhh sorry yeah so it's this project https://github.com/GhostSalt/GhostCards

nice

[austere whale]

yummy

https://files.catbox.moe/lpr7lu.png

progress on my deck skin !

[austere whale]

i have made a lot of progress as you can see

[polar oyster]

Q

[austere whale]

jestoker

jokester

[stable juniper]

wheel soon!

I wish there was VC so I could stream it

[limber gull]

why is 4 fingers a meme?

[stable juniper]

okie sorry my computer's a wee bit slow, give it a minute to post the video

[rotund rapids]

anyone reccomend any fun mods ??

[stable juniper]

^^^^^ this one :3

@twilit jetty get ghosted >:3

[woven crag]

it looks like the hand in the loss comic

[rotund rapids]

where does one find the downlaod

[twilit jetty]

:yippee:

[stable juniper]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Bakery

it's a great vanilla-balanced mod

[twilit jetty]

PSA use the beta version of bakery it's better and less buggy than main

[stable juniper]

hokai :3

[rotund rapids]

thanks

[twilit jetty]

(which is this download link https://github.com/BakersDozenBagels/BalatroBakery/archive/refs/heads/v3-dev.zip)

[unkempt current]

which one is better

[lost bolt]

left

[unkempt current]

OH COME ON WHY ARE ALL THE RUNS I USE TO TEST SO GOOD

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1355819401198178455

[rain orbit]

Literally the most recent message in #1448925588701315223

[fluid badger]

#1456794211104854208

[rain orbit]

Transjester

They identify as jo/ker

[tardy sigil]

Bizarrto drops worst joke ever. asked to leave the server

[rain orbit]

[tardy sigil]

https://github.com/the-2nd-olsberg/Jambatro

[austere whale]

yay

[stable juniper]

here's how the ghostification is going :>

[austere whale]

waowie

[lost bolt]

Pretty simple

[austere whale]

https://files.catbox.moe/zc14vw.png

i'm testing pinterest brushes while doing joker art awesome

what the hell would my ability be...

[austere whale]

i have no fucking idea

[limber gull]

just discovered synergy

[fluid badger]

mmm, cryptid

the boiled chicken of balatro mods

[viscid forge]

i have a question what is the rean why this is ahppenign

[viscid forge]

omg i am having the same issue wth

[hard plank]

#1326135270759993364

[limber gull]

Got the same

[viscid forge]

right i have been tryjng to debug this but its not rly workinv

[normal hollow]

cryptid bug with new smods

downgrade both cryptid and smods or wait for next amods update

[limber gull]

How

[normal hollow]

download an older version of both from the place you got them

[viscid forge]

wiat so thr smod bata is the main problem

[normal hollow]

it's not the fact that it's beta if that's what you're saying

it's just the new version and cryptid have some incompatibility

but new cryptid also requires new smods so you need to downgrade both

[viscid forge]

that make sense wiat is there a channel where these kind of things r discussed or na

[normal hollow]

yes this one lol
or #⚙・modding-support

[viscid forge]

wiat also what is the release which u would recommend

[viscid forge]

thx

xuz i am on github rn

[normal hollow]

for cryptid it's 5.13
and for smods it's 10 something

instead of 12 something

[unkempt current]

cryptid..

[viscid forge]

kay

[unkempt current]

I can't escape the "create 2 copies of selected card" mod

[normal hollow]

it is the biggest mod

after joyousspring the most popular mod ever of course

[viscid forge]

wiat also it would be a good idea downgrading talisman as well right

[forest knoll]

nah

[limber gull]

Which version is it?

[forest knoll]

i'd say you should use amulet instead of talisman tbh

[limber gull]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases

[viscid forge]

used the recommended one which u would get

i think that would be fhe best idea

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/releases

use the 5.13 that is the one hwihc was recomended

[limber gull]

this for cryptid, which for smods

ah, got it

[viscid forge]

works

[fluid badger]

what the fuck was revo thinking

[long hare]

he wasnt

revo's vault is just cryptid 2

[hard plank]

sorry i am not them

[formal orchid]

what

i refuse this statement

[fluid badger]

copies negative btw

you can just choose to have this eternal in one of the decks

[long hare]

evil the race

[fluid badger]

i had deck sleeves which made it negative

[formal orchid]

see

deck sleeves

you started the run with op stuff already

i aint cryptid 2

[long hare]

exotic deck exists

[formal orchid]

deck is deck

sshhh

[fluid badger]

all that deck sleeves did was make the printer negative

[formal orchid]

my mod is not that broken

you chose the printer

you start wit

[fluid badger]

also somewhere in the code makes the negative spawn chance when you copy a card greater

has to

[long hare]

also you clearly want the fame of cryptid because you selfpromote every day

[formal orchid]

?????

[formal orchid]

anyways i lost some important

progress

and im kinda cooked

like 5 days worth of progress

and im speedrunning them rn

[celest oar]

how would one report a bug for Cryptid? just noticed Indigo deck doesn't seem to work

[fluid badger]

lmao first curse and it doesnt even affect me

[formal orchid]

probs in https://discord.gg/cryptid-1264429948970733782

[celest oar]

thank u

[formal orchid]

lame ahh curse

[fluid badger]

does your mod have exponents somewhere

[formal orchid]

no

[fluid badger]

or am i stuck with xmult

damn

[formal orchid]

im %99 sure i dont have any ^mult

nor chips

i had factorial mult but that never left my local build

[unkempt current]

i love bugs

[fluid badger]

i will get double e with revos vault

[long hare]

aikoshen's happy ghast is the easiest ^mult ever

[unkempt current]

that made me wheeze so hard

[polar oyster]

Nice art, but how it scales, like every hand?

[unkempt current]

all i did was check the deck preview thing

yeah this thing is bugged

[unkempt current]

nah at the end of round

[formal orchid]

gonna be a long as week

[polar oyster]

common 😭

[fluid badger]

it took me awhile to find that

[fluid badger]

placeholder

[long hare]

how about ^2.16 mult unconditionally, per card scored

[fluid badger]

its now a rarity that you get from a seal (1 in 100)

[fluid badger]

alr have smth like that

[rain orbit]

Bro doesn't know about halloween hack 2

[fluid badger]

Developer ASAP, Common
wait 10 rounds for ^1.2 Mult per scored card

btw its hidden so you have no goddamn idea thats what it does

[rain orbit]

[long hare]

imagine something like that but as a negative effect

[fluid badger]

ball

[long hare]

anyway, cryptid bad
ortalab better

even though i've played cryptid and havent played ort

[fluid badger]

thats agem not ainavol

[polar oyster]

ditpyrc

[rain orbit]

Ainavol hh2 is 2x ainavol
Earthbound halloween hack 2 is 1x

[fluid badger]

so hh2 is lovania

[rain orbit]

No

[fluid badger]

what

[rain orbit]

Regular ainavol as you know it is a lie

[fluid badger]

i mean hes blue

hh3 is olainav

[rain orbit]

No

[long hare]

why do you need the 1x and 2x files anyways

[rain orbit]

Undertale au context not balatro modding context

[long hare]

ik but tangenting

[fluid badger]

arent they no au

[fluid badger]

t.. t tangents?

[long hare]

not quite a chord

[rain orbit]

They're in a limbo, the popular version everyone knows is a lie and it's revealed that the real ainavol sans is from a hypothetical version of undertale that's another earthbound rom hack made in the same style as the original halloween hack, hence halloween hack 2

Also, the joker was made in a way to where it's impossible to differentiate fanon ainavol and preboot agem, so I assumed ainavol since it's more popular

[fluid badger]

NUS go "the sun is leaking" 🗣️ 🚰 ☀️

[rain orbit]

What

[long hare]

what

[tulip dust]

is the sun leaking

[long hare]

insert "bro visited his friend" here

[rain orbit]

Leaking helium maybe

[fluid badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6ZdopgD3Y

[rain orbit]

Oh that

[long hare]

what

i am NOT up to date with ut aus and im not sure i want to be

[fluid badger]

it legit says no au in the title

[formal orchid]

yes almost recovered

[long hare]

no au is just an au that isnt named yet

[fluid badger]

no aus are mostly ATs

[rain orbit]

It's the title given to a self enclosed situation, often with little to no real story or substance to it aside from what is shown
I specialize in these so I'd know

[long hare]

remember when wiki sans was peak?

[fluid badger]

are the stars floating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrIgObGT5Xw&list=RDyrIgObGT5Xw&start_radio=1

[rain orbit]

When I say I specialize in them I mean I know how they work, not that I know every single one of them

[fluid badger]

cola my goat

[rain orbit]

Plus bilibili content (including that also uploaded to yt) is what can only be called a wild west

[fluid badger]

ive explored it

i dont know what a fish king is people keep talking about it in the comments

what is the fucking context of "fish king"

[rain orbit]

Idk

[long hare]

the newest brainrot probably

[fluid badger]

no its like an undertale thing

[rain orbit]

No people are still on papyrus knight brainrot

[fluid badger]

with the bilibili com

at least the section that is accosiated with the Bad Times All Around members

[rain orbit]

What does btaa have to do with a fish king

[fluid badger]

i think its just agem and ainavol combined but i might be wrong

its like some kinda fusion

no idea

[rain orbit]

The only fusion people pay attention to is the one from eto

[fluid badger]

i dont get all the octet bullshit

how hard is it to make an original au

or an orignal no au

[long hare]

actually very because all the ideas were wasted on the aus from 2017

[fluid badger]

no not really

just like

what is something that has never been done before

[rain orbit]

All originality is either superficial or has been done at least once before in history

[fluid badger]

my atoms have existed before is that unoriginal

[long hare]

originality is determined by who screams the loudest

[rain orbit]

Plus simply making things of other things is not inherently more dishonorable than making an original thing

Else you're a loser for making undertale aus by your own logic

[fluid badger]

stop talking SHIT about us

[rain orbit]

Wghar

[fluid badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXat7UoYxF8

[rain orbit]

Tihs

[austere whale]

if i was a joker what would my ability be

[rain orbit]

Asking where the other jokers are

[long hare]

nah its just so humorous that you're clinging to something from 2015 instead of getting a job

[austere whale]

hm?

[rain orbit]

These are more recent creations actually

Within this decade

[long hare]

nah im talking about undertale

[fluid badger]

i cant get a job first of all (im not 15) second of all, not 2015 either

[rain orbit]

There's a reason it lived this long

[fluid badger]

this no au stuff has only existed in the last 5 years

[rain orbit]

I'd argue older but like in a more primordial form

[fluid badger]

and agem ainavol negative no aus have existed for a year, 2 at most

[rain orbit]

You sound like a nerd because you're not stooping to their level of understanding about this topic

[fluid badger]

because i kinda am lmao

tbh i dont even like these ones as much as a good cotv or forced grin

[rain orbit]

They don't know anything about ainavol and agem and whatnot outside of the name and maybe they remember remnants of songs

[fluid badger]

i just think that they are a fucking stupid and funny concept

[long hare]

man i just dont like brainrot and overused jokes

[fluid badger]

not brainrot or overused

these are really low key

mm

actually one could argue brainrot but

not really

[long hare]

what is the difference between this and brainrot

[fluid badger]

brainrot is low effort

[fluid badger]

it was made with care

and passion

and thought

[rain orbit]

Brainrot and overused are close but not quite, they're just attempts to do something of its own but they end up looking mindless and uniform from an outsider view

[fluid badger]

at least more care then brainrot is

[long hare]

it sounds like someone slapped the megalovania instruments on a midi that vaguely sounds like a sans theme

[fluid badger]

your opinion

also thats just a diss on ainavol because thats where they all come from

[long hare]

yeah ik i liked some of the ainavol covers but i dont like the original

[rain orbit]

A lot of the time it is just that, actually
I know you don't wanna downplay how much you like them but it's really stubborn after a point

[long hare]

anyways what was this channel used for again lmao

[rain orbit]

It was made with earthbound and mother 3 instruments iirc

[fluid badger]

its also really weird how inconsistant fan ainavols are

[cloud willow]

im so confused what are we talking about

[rain orbit]

Very niche section of undertale aus

[fluid badger]

sometimes its like the guy with the 2 bones like disbeilef papyrus and the blood eye, other times its a broken bone, sometimes its like a yellow glitch effect, its really intresting

[cloud willow]

okay so I do have decent reading comprehension

[long hare]

not modding

[fluid badger]

i like yapping

[rain orbit]

The guy with 2 bones is from elatrednu, and it's an outdated design
People just confused them for the mainline one

[fluid badger]

what about the fistoflatning one

[rain orbit]

That's the eto fusion

Iirc

[austere whale]

can someone think of a joker idea for me i'm so lazy and stupid

[long hare]

what is that nameeeeeeee

[rain orbit]

Evil larry

[fluid badger]

ikr

im gonna flaten your fist

[austere whale]

i meant like an ability for myself as a joker..

[fluid badger]

This prob isn’t official either

i like it the most tho

[rain orbit]

The bars are an out of left field thing, even I don't know where it came from

[fluid badger]

maybe kae?

[rain orbit]

No

[fluid badger]

or someone elses unique concept

tbh might have come from this

ajs cover

[rain orbit]

The song thumbnails make the sans on it have a yellow outline to make them stand out

[long hare]

Lucky cards have their denominators halved (Ex. 1 in 8 -> 1 in 4)

[rain orbit]

That's just oops but lucky cards

[fluid badger]

i beileve the squilly lines that are with ainavol sometimes are artifacts of the earthbound background

[long hare]

oh right its equivalent to oops

uhhhhh i want to be lucky cards because rabbit's foot

[rain orbit]

Either way the design on the thumbnails was never canon to anything, it was just made to be looked at

[long hare]

each scored lucky card has a 1 in 15 chance to increase numerators by 1?

[fluid badger]

i like how the only consistant designs for btaa is everyone else but ainavol

agem has a little variation but its often just shading or poses

sometimes m87 is too red

[rain orbit]

And they're often all wrong