⚙・modding-general

[main path]

i realize this is equivalent to /2 Mult

but i think there could be some extra gimmicks attached to overload values

[forest knoll]

i like the idea of overload being affected mostly passively, it feels different enough from /mult even if the math works out the same
overload could scale with your deck size/how much money you spend/skipped blinds/whatever

[main path]

yeah the flavor potential is there

[long hare]

boss blind where it increases overload by 0.5 per hand or discard

[main path]

Ideally id like to stay away from additive or subtractive modifiers to overload

to prevent the case of dividing by 0

or dividing by negative numbers

[forest knoll]

joker that slowly increases overload in real time as it "charges" and then resets it in the final hand of the round and explodes with xmult or whatever

[long hare]

you can divide by negative numbers fine?

[main path]

That results in negative score

[long hare]

yeah, negative score can happen

[main path]

That can happen

but i dont intend on having a way to get negative score in my mod

its more of a conscious design decision

[main path]

* specifically from playing a hand

i have effects that reduce score in my mod, but they are from boss blinds
I dont vibe with things that make played hands give negative score

[forest knoll]

chromatic haters club

[west hill]

you could jjust cap it at 1

[main path]

fair
I also just dont vibe with random unexplained caps whose only purpose is to prevent unintended interactions
because to me that indicates a poorly designed system

So to me, just having multiplicative effects on it seems like the best choice

[cloud willow]

Okay so I understand how to make UI (it just seems like table based html)
but i'm not sure how to insert my UI into an already existing one

I wanna add an extra tab to the deck screen

[long hare]

take ownership

[woven crag]

take ownership of a ui

genius!

[woven crag]

probably look into where the ui and tabs are generated and patch/hook in an extra tab

based on how the existing tabs are structured

[long hare]

oh is that not

[woven crag]

a ui is not an SMODS object no

[long hare]

when in doubt, take ownership ;-;

[woven crag]

if only it was as simple as SMODS.UI

[hard plank]

SMODS.UiElement

[woven crag]

i mean it would still be balatro ui code it still would suck to work in

and with how varied the use of ui is i dont think this would work at all

since atp youre just generating a table

[hard plank]

at least it's reusable

🥀

[long hare]

of course you would know, you made solitaire in balatro ui

[hard plank]

?

[long hare]

oh wait

brain't moment

[cloud willow]

I mean its in their mod you got it half right

[lunar walrus]

Hey guys, super quick. Thoughts on these odds?

In terms of balance but also hype.

[hard plank]

always assume players are extremely lucky

what do you mean by it's almost as easy to get a legendary as to get $20 from lucky card

it's a common

[lunar walrus]

I was thinking it was fine given a joker is a one of chance.
It also is coded as a chain, so if the common fails then it moves to the uncommon and so on.

[hard plank]

if you're lucky you get 4 jokers at once

[ancient sinew]

maybe make legendary a fixed chance?
there's also cryptid's rigged
unless it stops creating when creating the common

[hard plank]

we do not consider Cryptid

[lunar walrus]

yeah but it's not the case here, if the common triggers the effect stops.

[strong obsidian]

Ah, remember when I abused the old version of it to have it hit guaranteed? The fucking Jackpot sound that plays afterwards when it hits makes it funnier.

[lunar walrus]

haha, yeah. It has that gamblecore vibe.

[hard plank]

then the description sucks

[desert mirage]

quick question

actually wait wrong channel

[lunar walrus]

it does say 'a' joker.

but I get what you mean

[hard plank]

it lists multiple chances

[lunar walrus]

that's true

haha

[long hare]

what's the other 1 in 16

[hard plank]

so without any other information one could assume that the prize from the lottery is independent for each chance

[hard plank]

you get nothing lol

[lunar walrus]

lmao

[lunar walrus]

Yeah, the way it's worded now seemed like a good compromise in terms of text length.

[hard plank]

who cares about text length

no one's gonna read anyway

[lunar walrus]

haha, gotta do it for yourself first, you know.

[hard plank]

people see word "legendary" "sell this" people buy and sell it

[long hare]

plus, its not good practice to give a legendary without the soul

[hard plank]

i never said that lol

[long hare]

lol i would never lol

[hard plank]

my uncommon joker gives legendary

basically guaranteed soul

[long hare]

tbf aikoshen is kinda busted

[lunar walrus]

I tried to do that before, but the code explodes for some reason. So we gotta do with this for now.

[long hare]

(uhhh totally wasnt gonna say "aikoyori is kinda busted")

which i mean, yes but also no

[hard plank]

tho you either already fixed your deck to the extreme or your painstakingly score each card it asked

[lunar walrus]

Aight guys. Fixed the wording.

[long hare]

also can it be oa6'd

[undone surge]

holy rng

[lunar walrus]

yeah, I tried it and it works. It also has a super cool gamble core sounds when it hits the legendary.

lmao

[hard plank]

i think it should say something along the lines of "only create higher rarity if you fail to get the lower rarity"

[long hare]

its actually a single weighted chance, 8w for common, 4w for uncommon, 2w for rare, 1w for legendary and 1w for nothing

[lunar walrus]

I actually think most players wouldn't care for that info and text box size is really important to me.

I think it's a decent compromise right now.

[limpid lake]

just prepend the last three lines with "or else"

1 in 2 chance of a common, or else 1 in 4 chance of an uncommon, etc

[desert mirage]

i need to learn how to sew

[cloud willow]

okay I think I've injected my ui into the game

if I did it right the game should crash cuase I havent stored my function in UIDEF

frick

oh wait I did the patch wrong

YES LETS GO

[rain orbit]

Whatsapp

[frigid mica]

I know Willatro already has an Unseen Joker, but I wanna make another Unseen Joker with a different ability. Y’all got ideas?

[stable juniper]

what happens if all 4 chances fail? the probabilities don't fully cover the probability space

[brisk seal]

what if they all succeed tho

also hi GhostSalt long time no chat

[frigid mica]

I feel like it goes by priority

[stable juniper]

oh ya hiya! ^^

[frigid mica]

I see it as this “legendary chance > rare chance > uncommon chance > common chance”

[stable juniper]

oh I see

[brisk seal]

I'm taking it literally

[frigid mica]

If legendary hits then get legendary, otherwise do the same with a rare joker, and so on

[L[R[UC[C]]]]

[frigid mica]

Advanced Handheld when

[lament hamlet]

soon

[cloud willow]

progress has been made

oop

[lunar walrus]

oh, it shows you a green nope!. haha.

Guys is this card understandable.

Like can you make yourselves an idea of what it does.

[lunar walrus]

That's also a good idea. I feel like letting the players think how the probability works for a moment is okay if it saves on text, as long as it's not too long.

[hard patio]

wait are you the opandora guy?

[lunar walrus]

oh, no. I'm balancing the mod, but the wording of this joker was really bad in my opinion so I took a shot at that too.

[hard patio]

ah

i see

i love that mod but its a bit convoluted i agree lol

i think i getwhat that one joker says

guessing by incremental, its 1 in 2, 1 in 4 and 1 in 12?

[lunar walrus]

Yeah, that was close. omg.
it's actually 1 in 2, 1 in 3 and 1 in 25.

but if it triggers on mult it stops

[hard patio]

i estimated the second one was a souble digit

[lunar walrus]

if not it continues to the next probability.

[hard patio]

what if you fail all 3

[lunar walrus]

oh, it just doesn't trigger. Maybe I could add an effect?

but yeah, I like how this one turned out.
The mod I'm making should be done in a couple of days. It's called Trifolium and has rebalances of mods for gold stake,, omg. check it out later if you can.

only opandoras for now though, this is difficult, haha.

[long hare]

we blindin'

yeah

makes it so that you have the entire run to prepare for bronze brain, that is, if you can remember what the mind told you in the first place

[robust urchin]

what is n

[long hare]

any whole number

[karmic compass]

wait peak actually

[long hare]

"2 or more face cards" from the mind means almost nothing lol, just pick up pareidolia

[cloud willow]

genuinley gonna crash out at this UI

[robust urchin]

im not sure i understand what antes this thing can appear on this math isnt mathing

[forest knoll]

it can only appear on the ante before a finisher blind appears

and if it does appear, it forces the finisher blind in the next ante to be bronze brain

[long hare]

sorry that the math is math

its the blind after each finisher blind and ante 0

oh wait

oh woops my math is wrong lol

there

i checked every part of it except that part

anyway, figuring out how to center this symbol took a while

[forest knoll]

so this finisher shouldn't be able to appear in ante 8 at all right? because even if you pick up an ante 1 hieroglyph you won't be able to reroll the boss into the mind

[long hare]

no, the mind is on ante 1, 9, 17, etc

bronze brain is then forced to be the next finisher blind after the mind is triggered

[forest knoll]

oh "the blind after (each finisher blind and ante 0)", not "the blind (after each finisher blind) and ante 0"
my bad

[long hare]

yeah

a bit complex, but its fun

there's a deck that forces the mind/bronze brain to appear too lol

[robust urchin]

ohhhh

so it can appear every 8th+1 ante

[long hare]

also if winning blind is changed (the "Ante/8" in the Ante Ui location) then it adapts accordingly

btw thoughts?

[ember crow]

what does The Hand do

[ember crow]

ohh ok, cool idea

[long hare]

its just better the water tbh

[cloud willow]

localization time

[ember crow]

ooo nice

[latent crescent]

[ember crow]

cant wait to download the mod for reference for my own mods but also to play the mod ofc

[ember crow]

🔥

thx for making handy btw its very useful

[exotic belfry]

This scares me

[forest knoll]

i'm adding infinite scroll to balatro

[long hare]

and you just silently descend into the void the more you scroll

[ember crow]

ooo i would love to see how it turns out

[forest knoll]

(i'm joking i don't even know what that would entail lol)

[woven orchid]

lily

i have innovated

[winged prism]

What the fuck

[latent crescent]

time for real example

Let me cook

[dusty token]

cookingG

[long hare]

btw, the force

[wanton lintel]

misprint decks come at a cost

[forest knoll]

is that so

[forest knoll]

worth it tbh

[woven orchid]

if u saw my xp bar from last night ya im just still riding that high

we got Valk.ui.DynaBar in the hous 🧊

[long hare]

xp grinding? in MY balatro? preposterous

[wanton lintel]

roguelike in my roguelike

[forest knoll]

ahhh
goated

[cloud willow]

I'll update it on github once I make the textures for this deck

[ember crow]

ooo so theres already a release for this mod

i love how ur "playing" vscode

[cloud willow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471252195713482833

[latent crescent]

I cooked

[dusty token]

🃏 Tag incoming! 🃏

[latent crescent]

entire code btw

[icy widget]

Is there a UNO Mod for Balatro

[dusty token]

i noticed when you hover around the card the ui just stays float though

anyway good work

[forest knoll]

sounds like it should go in a canvassprite :3

[latent crescent]

I have no idea how it will behave on canvassprite

We definitely need to test it tho

[forest knoll]

yea getting a UI object in a canvassprite is. tricky to say the least

[karmic compass]

shit so peak

wtf

[latent crescent]

@forest knoll I can comiit it so you can try do canvassprite thing

Is this okay

[forest knoll]

honestly i'm not too interested in tackling it myself, at least not immediately
(plus i'm still waiting on HP to repair my laptop)

[latent crescent]

I see, okay

I mean, sad, but okay

[balmy lily]

i think theres a variable to block the ability to play hands

[forest knoll]

ya sorry lol
it still looks good enough without the canvassprite, and i've already tried to use UI for it before and it's very complicated
the game auto-sizes UI based on the screen resolution and aspect ratio, but that means that the image data on the canvas will be sized differently on different screens

unless you account for it

which is very complicated because you're essentially manually undoing the auto-sizing work

[latent crescent]

so you mean that UI elements still cannot be rendered in card itself

canvassprite still cant do it?

[forest knoll]

they can, but not with a consistent size
in the past i had something set up to do that with a consistent size, but then i switched to just using raw love2d calls to draw the text

[cloud willow]

now to sprite the deck

[forest knoll]

now that i think about it, a better way to handle it would probably be to make the size of the canvas also adjust based on the resolution
so that's something you can do in a custom drawstep for the canvassprite when you render the UI to it

[cloud willow]

ight imma eep now gn

[karmic compass]

eep well

[granite forum]

nerf serpent to 2

mark retrigger first played face card

ox to 2

wall to x1.25

tooth only for first hand

[cloud willow]

Holy crap let me actually test my mod first lmao

[granite forum]

these are crazy as perm buffs

[granite forum]

nahhh

[cloud willow]

thats the point
im having my decks be on the more unbalanced side for those who want to screw around

[granite forum]

what about

those who want to screw around

balancely

🥺

[latent crescent]

even more scroll thing in your reel

[frigid mica]

I’m only now realizing this is supposed to be the smods cat

[solemn badger]

Does anyone know if modding is possible on the IOS version of the game

[exotic belfry]

#📜・modding-rules Rule 4

[solemn badger]

Ah I see sorry

[river mango]

anyone have a modpack where cryptid doesn't crash with addons?

using the source versions of each mod aside from talisman and smods leads to a bunch of crashes

crashes which didn't occur until after the creation of cryptlib...

[zealous kayak]

is there an app people use to program custom jokers?

[blissful stag]

This run is fucking doomsd

Again this isnt modded im just gonna send it here

[river mango]

there is but it's not the best for anything advanced

[zealous kayak]

id be fine with anything, whats it called and where do i get it?

[woven orchid]

matador in the shop with 2 chicots is crazy

[river mango]

literally just joker forge

but its akin to making mods for mc using m creator

take that as you will

[forest knoll]

most people (including me) will highly recommend just learning to write the lua code for modding; if you start with jokerforge with the intent to "graduate" to writing the code yourself later, you'll end up rewriting everything you do in jokerforge because the code it generates is kind of bad practice in a variety of different ways

[river mango]

exactly what i was gonna say

[forest knoll]

and you can do that with any text editor (ideally notepad++ at minimum, although a lot of people recommend using a full IDE like vscodium so you can get autocomplete for the functions that balatro and SMODS use)

[rain orbit]

Does someone wanna give me free labor

It's consumables

🔥

[river mango]

lol looks like we both got left on seen lmfaooo

[rain orbit]

[blissful stag]

This is such a weird run bro

[river mango]

lmfao all i want is a stable cryptid modpack haha

[blissful stag]

A nat negative dna too

[river mango]

but apparently valk is dead and entro doesn't like to work

[winged prism]

Stable >Cryptid
Can you like pick one

[river mango]

i mean cryptid has only crashed once for me

and that was from tropical smoothie lmfao

[rain orbit]

Bizarrtro has bizarro megg if that's close enough

[woven orchid]

hi ex valk dev sorry about killing it

[rain orbit]

What is bmm compat

[river mango]

lmfao not lily coming outta nowhere, is it actually dead?

[woven orchid]

umm

i don't update vallkarri anymore, necessarily

[rain orbit]

I know what bmm is but what is bmm compat

Or is that just bmm

[river mango]

i get it i read the announcements just wanted to double check

[rain orbit]

Ohg

[woven orchid]

im gonna go lawyer on you and say
at the moment i am not currently nor do i have any plans to work on a mod with the name VallKarri

no

bmm-compat is a compat checker that does next to nothing and hurts performance

[river mango]

lily do you know what the last compatible version of cryptid was for valk?

[granite forum]

manacle

[woven orchid]

unforuntately not

[rain orbit]

[river mango]

I don't mind downgrading, just want something stable

[woven orchid]

it shouldn't, it's just better to not have it

[woven orchid]

probably from late 2025

[river mango]

Cat_Sad

lol i used to run valk entro and cryptid together but now its nearly impossible haha

[woven orchid]

i won't say get your hopes up but i'm not working on nothing right now colonthree

[whole nova]

i wish it was easier to detect modded jokers that copy effects

[winged prism]

Your best bet is like. To check each mod you suspect to be a culprit individually
Which isn't fun yeah

[woven orchid]

triifff!!!!

[whole nova]

im finally actually Coding

[river mango]

hmmm i wonder if there's something in the mod files itself that states the version required

[zealous kayak]

A question about Jokerforge, If i want a joker to say "if this a "blank" rank. do this, i have that working, but is there a way to make it also do. "If its that rank AND this suit, do those AND this"?

[woven orchid]

so investd in breaking bad i almost forgot to take my meds

sorry thats offtopic

[whole nova]

good show

[woven orchid]

im on s4e11

[winged prism]

You can't stay ontopic here, it's the ancient biological urge to go offtopic

I finished better call saul this or previous month idk my memory is horrible

[whole nova]

bcs > bb

[winged prism]

Honestly I might agree

[blissful stag]

Wait does double chicot affect violet vessel

Like does it reduce twice

[amber river]

they done put me in a sarcophagus 😩

[blissful stag]

Double chicot manacle clutched up and gave me extra handsize

[verbal hornet]

can i disable a mod or do i need to take it out of the folder

[limpid lake]

you can uncheck it in the mods menu
you can also create an empty file named .lovelyignore in its folder

[winged prism]

I always wondered

Do people like

Just not see the MODS button

[verbal hornet]

an oversight

i just never noticed the checkmark

[rancid nexus]

this card fair?

i'm adding 150 themed jokers, not all of them will be perfect, but i think their charm and the quirks they have make this special

[cloud willow]

vscode 🙃

[rain orbit]

Wouldn't it have been more efficient to put swap core after the other ice cream that way cavendish can do more

[cloud willow]

then you have barely any chips

wait there's brainstorm

hmm

[rain orbit]

Well that hardly matters when you can just power through with mult

It's a mult build

Disguised as a chip build

[cloud willow]

nah its worse

[cloud willow]

but why do that when you could balance out your chips and mult
maximize your score

[strong obsidian]

TONIGHT, I COOK.

[woven orchid]

my shit is fuuuucked

[rain orbit]

I'm saying triple ice cream then swap then cavendish that way there's more mult for cavendish to multiply

I'm confused as to how not swapping one of the ice creams would make the score higher

[cloud willow]

that wouldn't even clear the blind

[rancid nexus]

maybe. video is just a demonstration

[cloud willow]

you had the best score in the video

[cloud willow]

its a maximization problem

[rain orbit]

Bingus

[rancid nexus]

i don't know if the pemonlist has a fitting level for this but that'd be a fun joker too
balance chips and mult mid-joker routine

[cloud willow]

in this case you have
Score = (81 + 100A) * 3 * (4 + 100B)
A + B = 3

S(A) = 3(81 + 100A)(4 + 100(3 - A))
S'(A) = 3(100)(304 - 100A) + 3(81 + 100A)(-100)
S'(A) = 300(233 - 200A)
0 = 300(233 - 200A)
-233 = -200A
1.33 = A

Max score comes from either A = 1 or A = 2
check both and A = 1 is bigger

[novel heron]

math in my numbers go up game??

[frigid mica]

i'm hella goated like that

[toxic cloud]

Endless Entropy:

[marsh storm]

Fraud tomorrow

[wanton surge]

Yup

Tis peak

[limber oak]

or today
hakita is 1 hour ahead of me

[wicked jasper]

well

within the next 14 hours

[full edge]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[river anchor]

🔫

[toxic cloud]

🔫

[full edge]

🔫

[wicked jasper]

i wasn't looking i missed the bot 😭

[limber oak]

24

[wicked jasper]

no

[limber oak]

depends on your timezone

[wicked jasper]

it's on the 24th within hakita's timezone

it's 10:30am for him

therefor it's within the next 14 hours

[limber oak]

ight

[wicked jasper]

since my twitter link got deleted (fair) here's a screenshot i yoinked from the pwx server

Hakita
24th for me

[marsh storm]

The good, the bad, and the ugly

[full edge]

Somehow a movie that ain't in Kino 🥲

[wicked jasper]

i'm assuming it was bc of my twitter link but none of the rules say anything about no twitter links

[austere whale]

the balatro movie..

[marsh storm]

Uhhh kill bill?

[tepid cobalt]

Recently sort of learned how custom CardAreas work, but I'm running into an issue. Whenever I try to spawn and add a card to the area, it gets added but stays invisible.

It's supposed to spawn a new version of the test card (which is the same as the one in the first picture) and move it to that area, for testing purposes.

[gentle citrus]

I'm on break again, and I've been thinking of like trying to revive of my idea of an alterntive universe balatro thing. or Paralel Universe. And well I've ended up trying to design a full body version of the "joker"

(I would've put this in #🎨・fan-art but eh it's modding related so yeah)

(yeah it's been a while if any but figured I'd have the break to showcase a full design somehow)

[cloud willow]

are you drawing the card area anywhere?

[full edge]

I wish I knew the types by heart, but a lot of logic for cardareas is handled by its type. If you haven't set up custom logic for your new cardarea type, you'll come across a lot of odd interactions. Depending on the usecase, I'd set it to just match the type of the consumable area

[spiral blade]

If you guys could control a streamers balatro game through twitch chat what would you like to be able to control

may or may not have a balatro mod nearly in an alpha stage were twitch chat can ruin a balatro run

[cloud willow]

lucky card odds

[tepid cobalt]

Should be in the last image, unless I'm missing something

I had to peek at other mods that added a CardArea to get me started

[tepid cobalt]

Are there any examples I can look at for that? Would love to know more

[cloud willow]

I dont see it being added to any UI

wait actually idk if you need to do that outside menus

holy seance value

[full edge]

Yes, though I wouldn't be able to give you any right away that aren't my own, or very very intergrated in ways that are probably overwhelming, haha. I just don't know if my implementation still really holds up. But If you check the #1340334060597285025 code, I've got the snackbag that is a specific cardarea that you can make appear on your screen, below the consumables. It's in the code as Kino.Snackbag. I'd link it more specifically, but I can't go to github right now

[full edge]

I think @plucky matrix is working on a similar concept!

[spiral blade]

similar but different

[tepid cobalt]

I'll have a look at it once I have the time, but thanks for the leads!

[spiral blade]

ours is more chat focused

[plucky matrix]

ya his seems to be more player vs chat where mine is more using viewer engagement to make cards stronger

[full edge]

#1338302514616995892 is also good to look at, but N's code is very intergrated with all his other systems, so it can be a challenge to piece together how it works in a way you can copy, haha

[spiral blade]

I think they said theirs is more like chat contributing to joker scoring

[spiral blade]

Yeah

[plucky matrix]

i did want to ask how your getting webhooks/websockets? cuase the way i do it is so jank lmao

[spiral blade]

I don't manage the websocket part it was original based of the twitchblinds mod

but they guy who is helping made it more like a twitch token system

where u link ur account to balatro

it's wizardy I don't understand lol

once I open the github you're more welcome to use

[full edge]

in that case, flipping and shuffling stuff, or being able to hide the rank or suit of cards could be fun. If you wanna do a lot of work, have people be able to give enhancements to playing cards that removes their suit and rank, and displays that person's twitch messages, haha

[tepid cobalt]

I'm pretty sure JoyousSpring's repos is where I got the gist/basics from, so yeah

[spiral blade]

I was gonna ask if I could steal ur twitch connection button cause ours is ass lol

[plucky matrix]

ya that what ima doing to. but lua has no websocket functionality so rn im making a http server and make a web browser handle the websockets 💀

[spiral blade]

ui design is my passion

[plucky matrix]

same XD

[spiral blade]

take a look at the twitch blind mod might help out

once I feel like ours is in an alpha state where it's playable

you can rip it from our github lol

code is still a mess from I was originally doing it and they've been working on fixing my meed

[plucky matrix]

i dont like how that one does it cuse it doent talk to twitch directly but a proxy server first and i dont wanna pass oath tokens through a proxy :/

[spiral blade]

[toxic cloud]

I feel you

[spiral blade]

yeah originally the mod was looking in chat for keywords

but they added where it can directly work with chat

[full edge]

https://github.com/icyethics/Kino/blob/main/lovely/current.toml#L509

did a quick check, and the type is 'joker'. I remember there being a reason to implement it through a lovely patch instead of any other way, but I'm not sure that reason holds up under scrutiny. I think the type name is the biggest thing, honestly. I think 'joker' as a cardarea type is basically just saying 'interactable, can be calculated, and isn't a playing card', rather than actually saying 'this has jokers in it'

[spiral blade]

my favorte thing they did was this

[plucky matrix]

also ya feel free to steal lol, I stole most of it from @full edge 💀 🤣

[cloud willow]

guess we're doing baronmime now

[tepid cobalt]

Thanks, I'll look into it later, but this may have given me an idea on how to fix it

Maybe

[spiral blade]

Our code

[plucky matrix]

exactly

[full edge]

let me know if it doesn't work out!

[spiral blade]

right now trying to concept a couple legendary jokers

[full edge]

All my code's for anyone to grab, tbf. Except if it's credited to someone else, in which case I'd prefer you to check with them, haha

[spiral blade]

because they only one is the ban hammer

[toxic cloud]

starts at X0 so banning a user is a must to win the next round
truly diabolical

[spiral blade]

and seems weird to have a soul that makes one joker

[plucky matrix]

my fav is a legendary that makes a poll at the start of every blind and the viewers can add new powers to the joker >:3

[spiral blade]

I'm trying to make a joker that blocks incomming commands

as like a shield protection thing

but have found figured out a downside to it yet

[plucky matrix]

oh cool

[spiral blade]

Thinking of like having it as a like a joker that stores protections for using a certain card

but no idea how that is yet

[plucky matrix]

also we should probaby make a thread lol

[full edge]

Channel's not busy, right? Feels fine to keep talking here, unless you're worried about finding stuff back in a while

[spiral blade]

i'm almost 30 how do I make thread

Made a deck for a streamer friend of mine

dude loves his flushes

[plucky matrix]

i dont seem to have the permissions to make one qwq

[spiral blade]

probably restricted to the #1209506514763522108 channel?

[plucky matrix]

maybe

[spiral blade]

right now this is the concept I got

just not implemented yet

also got a clone of misprint as a xmult joker

but it can negative mult hard

lol

[unkempt current]

I think you can but if it is for a mod then it's very recommended to make one in #1209506514763522108

[spiral blade]

I got #1472312402480726026 I can move it there

[plucky matrix]

i shoud also just make my own thread. wanna get some more powers for my legendary but cant think of any lol

[cloud willow]

buh apparently I dont gain an ability when defeating ante 8 boss ;-;

[dapper root]

trying to do a really high score run with wormhole deck in cryptid but i keep not getting directors cut early enough and i die to the pin 😭

[cloud willow]

whats that one do again

[dapper root]

the deck or the boss

[cloud willow]

boss

[dapper root]

jokers with epic or higher rarity are debuffed

[cloud willow]

mmm

[austere whale]

i have two jokers that

give 2x chips

and one joker that

balances 50% (plasma style)

how do i get the max score possible

like how do i arrange them

obviously i would benefit more if i had another 50% balancer

[sweet bramble]

i think X2 chips jokers before balancer

[austere whale]

i believe you're correct

[latent crescent]

Practical example of cutting-edge technology

[full edge]

looking like a rollercoaster tycoon park entrance, in the best way

[sweet bramble]

mod that adds a stock market slider at the bottom of the screen

[latent crescent]

to do this cutting-edge technology is not needed since screen crops it for you pretty well

[cloud willow]

accidently left a game breaking bug in the release lets go

😎

[full edge]

i don't think I've done a release that didn't necessitate a hotfix on the same day, sadly

[spiral blade]

man how do ppl do this

i'm still struggling with linebreaks in the about tab

[latent crescent]

That's okay, only few people can actually do something with UI and not be killed in process

[spiral blade]

also i'm off topic on working on a crazy idea of putting the entirety of the killer bean movie in a joker

because why not

[ember flicker]

i use notepad because i like pain

[cloud willow]

yeah I had to pull up github mobile to fix it lmao

[thorny dust]

anyone wanna do 2v2

[ember flicker]

advanced sp hand held

[granite forum]

bro github dev is better than notepad

it's practically just vs code inside of browser github

maybe desktop github too but i haven't tried

[cloud willow]

desktop github is weird

github dev is amazing though

but I got actual vscode now so I use that

wait I just realized I never tested my hotfix

oop

[granite forum]

this is why we commit changes and playtesting is just the public release

[formal orchid]

this is peak

[ripe wave]

Yo

[cloud willow]

okay it works as intended

[ripe wave]

Anyone interested in 1v1?

Multiplayer

[granite forum]

i bet someone is in the multiplayer balatro server

at least one person

[ruby swan]

are there any way to make a joker probability like "Oops ! All 6"?

[limpid lake]

those words don't make sense, but yes

[cloud willow]

like boost probability?

[ruby swan]

yes

[cloud willow]

yeah there's a calculate context for it iirc

[ruby swan]

what is it?

[cloud willow]

idk
never used it

its on the wiki though

[ruby swan]

this page? https://balatromods.miraheze.org/

[keen quail]

vanilla remade prob

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua
line 3851

[cloud willow]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Calculate-Functions#contextmod_probability

[ruby swan]

thanks

[toxic cloud]

another Huy in the chat

what can we say, ||it's the second most common name for males in Vietnam||

[keen quail]

huh, interesting

[ripe wave]

Chat how do I get oharoms preview it crashes my pc before use?

Pahntoms pr anyother working

[spiral blade]

Was trying to make the entire killer bean movie a joker in balatro

I managed to convert the entire movie into a gif lol

but I can't extract the frames every photo editor crashes my pc

[normal hollow]

get divvy's preview

[ripe wave]

Doesn't work for some reason

Any alternatives

[ripe wave]

If u could show me how it's done that would be helpful

[normal hollow]

idk i dont use them

but phantom's doesn't work anymore

[toxic cloud]

mm yes

also she won't show her name tag unless you've reached Dawn/Little Goody Two Shoes endings at least once

[ripe wave]

How did u change the photo and name of balatro? Looks sick

Nd do u hv preview of score?

[toxic cloud]

tbh score preview kind of defeats the purpose of having surprise elements

[vital granite]

bad mod idea: balatro playing card deck

add the standard 52 cards to your deck + you get jimbo, blueprint, gros michel and juggler

costs $16 in the shop

[toxic cloud]

huh

I'm confused

seems like a deck

but costs $16? it's also a joker?

[wind token]

how about you start 16 dollars in debt

[vital granite]

itd be like

a consumable

you buy it and then when you use it it adds the cards to your deck and the jokers to your joker slots

[wind token]

why not make the deck a deck

[toxic cloud]

I thought you meant a deck

like a real deck

[vital granite]

well it would add the standard deck cards to your current deck

[toxic cloud]

with Jimbo, Blueprint, Gros Michel and Juggler as playing cards

[vital granite]

i.e if you just started the game and used the playing card deck you would then have 2 of every card

[toxic cloud]

that sounds bad

[vital granite]

funny though

[toxic cloud]

a new deck with 56 cards (52 + Jimbo, Blueprint, Gros Michel and Juggler) is a lot more interesting

we can do some take_ownership to make those 4 jokers work as playing cards

Jimbo: +4 Mult
Blueprint: Copies the rank, suit, enhancement, edition and/or seal of the playing card to the right
Gros Michel: +15 Mult, 1 in 6 chance to destroy card
Juggler: +1 hand size while held in hand

[wind token]

i feel lik it would be better, if you start with a normal deck, with those jokers, and 16 dollars in debt, and just leave it as a deck

[wind turtle]

No, you can't, Card:calculate_joker isn't called on cards that are not in a joker area.

[toxic cloud]

I meant context.main_scoring smh

Blueprint might be a lot trickier, while the rest are easy to do

[wind turtle]

Yes, but the calculate function would never be called, if you took ownership of it, and it's not in a joker area.

[toxic cloud]

enhancements are also centers, wdym calculate isn't called

[ember flicker]

or just make them enhancements

[toxic cloud]

take_ownership of the 4 jokers to account for calculations related to playing cards, similar to enhancements

[ember flicker]

or make them enhancements so you can turn cards into blueprint yes biggrin

[wind turtle]

Yes, that wouldn't work.

[toxic cloud]

enhancements are also centers smh

[wind turtle]

The calculate function of jokers is only called if the card is in a joker area.

[toxic cloud]

Ig you're right
it wouldn't work... unless intensive hooking is done
I just oversimplified things so much it's wrong

[ocean wren]

does anyone know how can i switch these in cryptid?

[wanton rapids]

make a new profile

[ember flicker]

just make new enhancements

how do i make enhancements persistant and unchangable

[winged prism]

I'm pretty sure Blindside blinds are enhancements

Then again, they are probably very much changeable, because why wouldn't they be

[wanton rapids]

yeah the core is an enhancement, the trim is a seal(?) and the edition is an edition

[wind turtle]

Hook Card:set_ability

[winged prism]

What if there were Balatro-scented car air fresheners

[loud pulsar]

It would smell like despair

[gentle citrus]

I'm back but at the same time I'm currently trying to remember what I originally had the idea about the paralels of jokers or such but I've kinda been writing the names for the dragons.

I have not shared the name ideas yet but eh.

[ember flicker]

as in i dont want another enhancement to overwrite it

[finite basin]

is this enough for a wheel to hit?

[lean dune]

absolutely not

you'd need closer to 1.8e308 to have a reasonable chance

[tepid cobalt]

Regret to inform that it's still not working. Tried any combination including the CardArea:emplace function but the same thing happens

[stark hare]

https://youtu.be/tKGhxMi50y8?si=1OkushAt_N9eYUNq

[chilly patio]

yo whats the name of the mod that allows me to hold click and select my cards?

[exotic belfry]

Handy

[tepid cobalt]

Correction: it works now...

And guess what, it really was just changing the CardArea's type from my own ConsumableType's key of "arcSpell" to "jokers". Same code as before with add_card, and now it does work

[full edge]

yeah, there's a loooot of code in vanilla that cares about cardarea type

[tepid cobalt]

I'm so confused, baffled, and a little afraid

Especially since this is probably gonna be one of the easier things I wanted to add to my mod

[full edge]

I've added a lot of weird stuff to Kino, and besides shaders, cardareas were one of the biggest sources of confusion, honestly.

[cloud willow]

you'd be surprised how easy the complicated things tend to be how how complicated the easy things are

[tepid cobalt]

I can definitely understand yeah. It's also not properly animating with the UI yet (no camera shake, and rescaling the window moves the CardArea) but I heard someone talk about it not being added to a UI yet

[tepid cobalt]

Interesting

[normal hollow]

this is a common mistake, i should write about it in the vremade faq

[cloud willow]

for example
guess which one those these took more time to do
make a random card act as blueprint each hand
make 2 items in a UI stack vertically

[tepid cobalt]

Please don't tell me it's the latter

[full edge]

Yeah, you'll want to stick it to things, it'll resize to its surroundings, generally. CardAreas are one of the bigger problem areas if you're new, in my experience, because they're less touched by SMODS than a lot of other parts of the game, so there's a huge amount of behaviour that's still hardcoded and kind of arcane because of it

[cloud willow]

yep

[tepid cobalt]

HTML CSS deja vu

[cloud willow]

the blueprint thing took 3 minutes
the UI took 2 hours

[cloud willow]

genuinely

[unkempt current]

which one looks better?

[west hill]

They’re really easy to work with once you know all the things you need to do though imo

[full edge]

UI isn't too difficult, it just takes a lot of fidgeting. And the code's just harder to parse as a base

[full edge]

Oh yeah, that's been my experience too, but it took a while before I learned what was inherent to cardareas, and what was hardcoded in to only happen in specific cases, haha

[cloud willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1475684879240007820/image.png?ex=699e6224&is=699d10a4&hm=db86777c9a7a4b0ad3dc863e6b43d71683f4891fec4fdcead5a60a3066b340eb&
good news is that it works perfectly now

[tepid cobalt]

Time to scour the existing mods again then. Just glad that this is already working now, I can just rewrite this slightly to store the correct cards

[full edge]

I think the biggest problem I struggled to solve for me was figuring out the way the save system and cardareas interacted, so I could make the connection between abducted cards and the abducting jokers persist. Took a lot of diving into the code, haha

[west hill]

Yeah, all the functions are super easy to hook too to add your own custom behaviours

[finite basin]

sdnilb ssob

[stable juniper]

Ghost Cards now fully supports Cryptid, check it out! https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471922886007591122

[wanton rapids]

this is so awesome

[stable juniper]

^u^

i chose Cryptid because it's popular, but the next mod isn't as easy to choose

so i'll make a form you guys can submit your mods to, and i'll spin a wheel ^^

[tepid cobalt]

Code cards feeling a little quirky :3

[wanton rapids]

wheel of :3s

[stable juniper]

:3

[neon orchid]

Then there’s a evil fucked up >:3

[stable juniper]

https://forms.gle/rLw1kFgBvhsMzsGc8

[cloud willow]

si

[pseudo igloo]

What is the mod that adds a search bar for Jokers?

[tepid cobalt]

Oh the Sell button is a little obscured

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1292542891800920215

[pseudo igloo]

Thank you

[polar oyster]

Cold beans 🤔 /c

[karmic compass]

people are adding so much peak stuff to their mod and i go "wow i wish i can do that" knowing my ass has no justification for having those mechanics in my mod

like having a custom cardarea seems so cool and it would be hype but what the fuck will i do with it

[wanton rapids]

card areas where you arrange rooms

[formal orchid]

people are thinking of very cool shit to add to their mod and im sititng there like

how to get good ideas

[tepid cobalt]

I mean... I don't even know if I'll ever finish this mod, let alone distribute it. This is mostly just me messing around ans trying some ideas. They'll probably change over time and actually find its use some day

For now, this is just a placeholder for a potential "quest" idea I had floating around, themed around DnD/Hearthstone/RPG games

[gentle citrus]

Honestly I want to like create new mechanics too but yeah. for me I don't know if I would finish my mods because of irl stuff and everything.

[rain orbit]

[celest musk]

hey guys, i'm prob gonna sound a bit stupid but whatever, it's been quite a long time since i played balatro and from what i remember there was a mod loader (i'm not* talking about smods) if i'm not wrong, can anybody please tell me what is the name of it ? thanks !

[wanton rapids]

lovely Injector?

[celest musk]

nope

okay it's me being stupid

i meant mod manager

not loader

[ornate solstice]

Could a timer be added by mod?

[limpid lake]

balatro mod manager, in-game mod manager, and i think there's also a third one

[celest musk]

oh yeah thanks !

(mb for the ping)

the name was so simple 😭

(thanks notmario too)

[unkempt current]

i wanted to test stuff in my mod and i got this

[woven crag]

the best runs always happen while testing mods

[austere whale]

hi i wanna play blindside, should i disable any of my mods?
currently i have:
galdur, better tags, unblind, cartomancer, systemclock and handy

maybe i should ask this in the blindside thread if it exists

[unkempt current]

there is actually a blindside server

[woven crag]

they shouldnt cause any issues

those mods

[unkempt current]

oh

wait

you already joined

[austere whale]

lol

[austere whale]

ty

[full edge]

An identical issue I had with Kino, haha. I don't remember what the solve was, but it's in the repo somewhere 😛

[formal orchid]

i had the same issue and i just remade the buttons

[normal hollow]

the buttons are hardcoded based on the area yeah

[full edge]

I think I targetted that hardcoding thing?

[tepid cobalt]

You can remake the Sell/Use buttons?

[formal orchid]

yeah

[long hare]

:3

[forest knoll]

the :3

[ornate solstice]

Shart

[stuck zephyr]

I think i bricked my balatro copy by trying to combine the project moon texture pack with the persona tarots

can anyone give me the base balatro textures?

like, the files in here?

[forest knoll]

you shouldn't be injecting files into the exe in the first place
anyway run the verify game files process in steam, that should fix it

[stuck zephyr]

bc ever since i tried to replace it, the game refuses to boot with any mod that modifies joker displays

[stuck zephyr]

there was no balatro mod manager for persona tarots and i was able to inject them fine

so i thought i could do the same here but no

[forest knoll]

you don't need a mod manager, you can just put it in your mods folder
assuming it's a well made mod, it should either handle it on its own or depend on you also having the malverk mod to replace the textures

[stuck zephyr]

i think it was a very early mod or smth bc it was on gamenexus

[forest knoll]

oh if it's nexus then the situation is different lol

[stuck zephyr]

https://www.nexusmods.com/balatro/mods/70

it was this one

[forest knoll]

regardless, verify game files on steam and you'll be fine

[stuck zephyr]

if i knew how to make a balatro mod id 100% convert this but idk how to do that

also checking game file integrity did nothing

[forest knoll]

oh actually i don't think this crash is related to the mods you installed
update lovely injector to 0.9.0

[stuck zephyr]

ok that fixed it

thank you

i didnt know that had to be updated

[normal hollow]

this is my fault

[stuck zephyr]

youre good youre good

[wanton surge]

Nah, I’m gud, that’s my name

-# (You pronounce my name as “good” so if you said it it would sound the same, just different on paper)

[formal orchid]

play my mod

-# #1325147180280971294

-# im still desperate for mroe feedback

[limpid mirage]

dose anyone know where i can download jens almanac

[formal orchid]

https://discord.gg/ebrQmkK5

[limpid mirage]

ty

[lunar walrus]

Guys, guys. Fixed the code and now it can spawn multiple at once.

Thoughts on the odds?

[formal orchid]

2 oops and im gaming

[lunar walrus]

Also do you think that is the best color to refer to the soul?

[neon orchid]

Rainbow

[formal orchid]

can add a little E:1

wait no

not E:1

[lunar walrus]

damn, didn't know that color existed.

do you know the code for that one?

or do I have to add it?

[formal orchid]

ok nvm

it is E:1

keep it purple and add E:1

trust

[lunar walrus]

that is for edition right?

or like foil lookin

[formal orchid]

E:1 makes the text go up and down

[lunar walrus]

uuu

that's nice

aight thanks guys

[long hare]

thoughts?

[rain orbit]

Name kinda doodoo

[long hare]

weh it had to start with S then a vowel because theming

[neon orchid]

This is like that one deck

[granite forum]

wait what
Only now realizing this says critically acclaimed

[rain orbit]

Subjugate

[inland flume]

hey guys for brainstorm rerolled, if i enable negative perkeo and early copy and money, will i get a brainstorm/blueprint along perkeo? im a little confused on how it works cus i never get both a copy and a perkeo

[rain orbit]

Blinds are named after nouns

Not in past, present, nor future tense

[long hare]

subjugate isnt a noun

[rain orbit]

Normally no but I found it can be used as such

As is with some other non-nouns

But that's like super duper english

[keen roost]

anyone know how/if i can make modded balatro open without having to do it through the mod manager? steam just opens vanilla

[desert mirage]

teto mod

[long hare]

get lovely

[primal trout]

does anyone have any recommendations for motion sickness mods? I like the animations of the game but the swirling background really gives me a headache.

[main path]

Which one of these do yall prefer

left or right

[long hare]

this is worse

this is genuinely harmful to the run

its right twice a day...

oh wait fuck that's so old weh

ignore my scrolling up

[short sparrow]

Second one

[dapper root]

just learned that talisman doesnt extend negative scores, i lost a run because i got the chromatic (cryptid boss that subtracts score on odd number hands) and i couldnt do anything because i hit -naneinf

[deep tapir]

is there anyway to make stuff from diff mods appear equally without ruining rarity chances with equilibrium deck

[desert mirage]

first one but add brackets around 0 x 0

[long hare]

ah fuck i made it way too bright

[toxic cloud]

why is the base division 4 😭

not even plasma deck could make ante 1 easy with that

[long hare]

probably for testing purposes

[long hare]

its still bright but not as bright

[toxic cloud]

that's definitely brighter than before

[long hare]

well the problem was the saturation not the brightness

bright as in yellow-bright not white-bright

also here's your plant-ox fusion

[rain orbit]

I realized it'd be really evil to make good rekoj count towards the alternate rekoj page since it's just an inverted rekoj that actively harms you

So I'm not making it count

[dark roost]

BRO

PICKLE HERE

DISCORD JUST NUKED MY FUCKING ACCOUNT

[rain orbit]

Discord's zany zukes

[dark roost]

😭

they thought I was underage bruh

what the fuck dude

[acoustic badger]

has anyone tried the entropy mod for balatro,, and so can anyone help me? game just crashes whenever i use 1 of thier rune cards

[rain orbit]

Like they thought you were below what the tos says you can be?

[dark roost]

yes bruh

[rain orbit]

L

[dark roost]

I ain’t even say anything

[forest knoll]

you are the youngest person ever

[robust urchin]

dang

[rain orbit]

Wee-est joker

[rose prairie]

Is this a good mult counterpart to the Hiker?

or should I change up things, like not the 10+ chips req

[long hare]

decimal +mult isnt something you'd normally want to do

[rose prairie]

ok, can you tell me why?

I just felt like 1 mult is too much, I could make it like 1/2 odds to upgrade a card with +1 mult

[long hare]

uhhh i dont have an exact answer but balatro likes whole numbers

[toxic cloud]

there's already a Hiker counterpart
Ortalab Biker: played cards permanently gain +1 Mult when scored

and it's a common

[rose prairie]

I notice they have decimals on things like the vampire and such

[long hare]

that's Xmult

[toxic cloud]

decimal Xmult is reasonable

[rose prairie]

im assuming this is in a mod

[toxic cloud]

yes, it's in Ortalab

[rose prairie]

that seems kinda powerful for a common joker

[long hare]

hiker is +5 chips

also, hanging chad is common so dont say that commons cant be powerful

[rose prairie]

very fair point

[toxic cloud]

+1 Mult isn't that high when you have to spread it evenly to 52 cards
unless intensive deck-fixing is done, it's barely impactful

[long hare]

i'd say that +1 mult WITH that condition is good enough

[rose prairie]

ok, thanks

[barren verge]

funny balatro cryptid mod shenanigans

[long hare]

pathetic, where's $ee6

[toxic cloud]

numberslop lite edition

[barren verge]

wario and or tenebris isnt doubled enough i guess

[long hare]

nah, you've havent put oil on wario yet

[barren verge]

huh

[long hare]

oil lamp

[barren verge]

m

[toxic cloud]

[barren verge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/m-gif-only-for-max-games-1

[rose prairie]

How about this legendary joker and the Burned edition (Like polychrome, holographic, ect.)

[forest knoll]

worse than holographic, i'd probably just sell icarus for the money 9 times out of 10

[rose prairie]

Does this seem balenced, I have been playing with it a bit and I feel like it does a good job at the "Flying too close to the sun" part as you normally can get a big hit but you can loose shortly after as the cards are burned up

[rose prairie]

any ideas on how to make it better/

[long hare]

simplify this just to the 1 in 4 chance

and then make it 1 in 3

[rose prairie]

Im thinking always give +5 mult then

[forest knoll]

what if it was guaranteed xmult, but random strength between x1 and x4, and then a (xmult) in 4 chance to be destroyed after triggering

[rose prairie]

thats a good idea

[forest knoll]

or maybe it should be (xmult - 1) in 4, because otherwise you have a 1 in 4 chance for it to do nothing and just die immediately lol

[rose prairie]

Im thinking a random 1-4x mult but if it hits 4x mult it dies

[long hare]

holy shit its late ahhh

[forest knoll]

yea that's more intuitive
and maybe you should let it go to 1 decimal place, e.g. it can roll x1.1 or x3.9 instead of just whole numbers

[rose prairie]

that makes the chance of the card being burned up quite low tho

[forest knoll]

if you want the odds to be higher then yea you can leave it as just whole numbers

[toxic cloud]

just do 2 separate rolls 1 roll

1+pseudorandom("burned_xmult")*3 for Xmult
(1+pseudorandom("burned_xmult")*3) in 4 chance for chance to destroy card

[forest knoll]

that was my original suggestion, birb wanted to make it so that it only dies if it hits the 4x

[rose prairie]

local roll = SMODS.pseudorandom(card, 'burned_roll', 1, 4)

            if roll >= 2 then
                juiced = true
                result.xmult = roll
            end

            if roll == 4 then
                card._burned_destroy = true
            end

            if juiced then
                card:juice_up()
                return result
            end

Here is what I was thinking

1/4 = nothing
2/4 = 2x or 3x
1/4 = 4x (+ destroy card)

[toxic cloud]

it's simply pseudorandom

[rose prairie]

wdym/

[toxic cloud]

there is no such thing as SMODS.pseudorandom

[junior rock]

you dont need to put SMODS.pseudorandom i believe

it wont work

[rose prairie]

Thats weird cus thats what I have been using so far

[toxic cloud]

and it doesn't crash?
real black magic

[rose prairie]

-- +5 mult (1 in 2)
            if SMODS.pseudorandom_probability(card, 'burned_plus', normal, 2) then
                juiced = true
                result.mult = 5
            end

            -- x4 mult (1 in 4)
            if SMODS.pseudorandom_probability(card, 'burned_x', normal, 4) then
                juiced = true
                result.xmult = 4
                card._burned_destroy = true
            end

Thats what I was using before

[toxic cloud]

SMODS.pseudorandom_probability is a different thing

[woven orchid]

smods.pseudorandom_probability is an smods function which does exist , used for boolean rolls
smods.pseudorandom is not, pseudorandom() is used for numerical rolls

[forest knoll]

yea SMODS.pseudorandom_probability is a whole separate function

[rose prairie]

ahh ic

[toxic cloud]

it's only used to handle X in Y chance

[rose prairie]

So would it be this then:
local roll = pseudorandom(card, 'burned_roll', normal, 4)

[toxic cloud]

what's normal

wait nvm

that's the old code

[rose prairie]

thats the users base odds (normally 1, but if they had the joker like loded dice it would be 2)

Oops! All 6s joker

[toxic cloud]

that would be G.GAME.probabilities.normal, except SMODS no longer uses it

[rose prairie]

-- SCORING PHASE
        if context.main_scoring and context.cardarea == G.play then
            
            local normal = G.GAME.probabilities.normal or 1
            local result = {}
            local juiced = false

            -- Reset destroy flag safely at start of scoring
            card._burned_destroy = nil
            
            local roll = pseudorandom(card, 'burned_roll', normal, 4)

            if roll >= 2 then
                juiced = true
                result.xmult = roll
            end

            if roll == 4 then
                card._burned_destroy = true
            end

            if juiced then
                card:juice_up()
                return result
            end
        end

[rose prairie]

bruh

[toxic cloud]

you can have whatever you want as the numerator (normally 1)

[rose prairie]

how would I get the G.GAME.probabilities.normal then?

[woven orchid]

idk if you should even use that for something like this

i mean you totally can but its not standard to modify numerical rolls like a random amount of mult when probabilities are in play

[toxic cloud]

SMODS 0711a introduced a new probability handler, allowing you to freely define the numerator/denominator of a prob roll without relying on external variables, as well as allowing modification to those values

[rose prairie]

ok, removed that part anf just made it one

[rose prairie]

But how would that work with the Opps! All 6s joker?

[toxic cloud]

if context.mod_probability then
    return {numerator = context.numerator * 2}
end

that's how Oops works in the new system

[rose prairie]

ok

So would this be worth keeping or should I boost it more

[toxic cloud]

I'd say X2 to X5
it raises the destruction chance to 1 in 4

[rose prairie]

ok

[rose prairie]

^

thank yall for the help

[hardy brook]

She orta on my lab until i Shinku

[ember crow]

so a stronger glass card?

[toxic cloud]

yea

it's an edition exclusively given by a legendary, what can you expect

[forest knoll]

adding yet another tally to the jestrogen + jestosterone collection
fairly unique effect this time tho lol

[frigid mica]

how many people are asleep bruh

[leaden vector]

Honk shooo

[frigid mica]

where's somethingcom when you need him...

[dusty token]

..........ofc i broke something

[frigid mica]

crust, can you help me out

[dusty token]

wuut

[frigid mica]

#💻・modding-dev message

[full edge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/zDpLBjeilx

How do I capitalize on the fact that this joker effect has been in Kino for almost a year?

[woven orchid]

Advertise...

[toxic cloud]

dang

@full edge a lot of your feedbacks are implemented in https://github.com/HuyTheKiller/Sagatro/releases/tag/v0.2.3 , feel free to give it a try again when you're free

[full edge]

I'll play a bit soon!

Also still need to try 0 Error soon

[full edge]

That's too capitalist

[woven orchid]

ice the news is bountiful

vallkarri 2

[toxic cloud]

jokers that target 7 are cool because vanilla makes 7 too humble

[full edge]

Link it

[woven orchid]

it is still in Super Duper early dewvelopment because im just remaking the mod from scratch

have a teaser of the new leveling ui

[full edge]

7 shows up a lot in movie titles so 7 shows up in a decent amount of movie titles, haha. Like Se7en

[full edge]

Oooh that's real smooth

[woven orchid]

i had to Gut the functionality of sliders and then add New Guts inside in order to add the progress bar the way i wanted

[full edge]

How long did that progress bar end up taking you? Haha

[woven orchid]

solid while

[full edge]

I know you were on that for a while

Yeah, I imagine

[woven orchid]

but now i have

it's Beautiful

[full edge]

I did give up on it when I was trying it fairly quickly

[woven orchid]

if you want the code im happy to share

[full edge]

I don't remember what I wanted to use it for, in all honesty, haha

[woven orchid]

do note it does require an additional hook because sliders updating relies on you actually clicking it which this doesnt do

[full edge]

Oooh wait, scrapped dynamic difficulty system

[woven orchid]

ohh interesting

[full edge]

So I could add a true ending. But just went with a new stake for that, haha

[toxic cloud]

Sagatro has Lenient Score option that lowers the ramping intensity after ante 8, very beginner-friendly
but I suppose you don't need that

[full edge]

The original system was supposed to be the ability to buy contracts that would give you a specific power boost, but increase the blind scaling, with an ante 9 superboss showing up if you took more than a 100 points worth of contracts. Which is basically Monster Train's system

But I suspect I've got plenty of systems already, so just adding a stake works too, haha

[toxic cloud]

other mods: add new stakes
Sagatro: rework vanilla stakes

am I really the oddball here

well, it's a bit special I believe
story mode completely alters gameplay, and having it be a toggle makes adding new stakes awkward when turned off

[full edge]

I do have notes for reworked stakes, mostly based on using counters more, but I didn't want to test them all. The new Kino stake is truly just there so I can have a true ending that rolls credits without it needing to happen every run, haha

[toxic cloud]

that's another interesting approach

I mean, it's weird that SMODS did not support loc_vars for stakes because no mods asked for it

[full edge]

I do think I've got enough systems to do a proper rework of all stakes but testing stakes to check if they properly increment difficulty is a looot of work that requires a looot of feedback

[toxic cloud]

until mine appeared

I understand

ngl, looking back at what I did for the stakes

only Gold Stake is menacing enough

Ig story mode is already hard on its own, requiring players to find the meta in each storyline

Purple Stake might sound like a joke to you
believe me, it's there because money is not a long-term problem in story mode

[dapper abyss]

if only

[polar oyster]

I have idea for my clown mod make new stake, that work without vanilla stakes or add stake, that make game easy(idk about this)

Modded stake either they will make balatro a little more difficult (if it add 1-4 stakes), or game will be unplayable.

[austere whale]

was writing joker ideas today in class

some of them got over 5 or 7 lines long and i had to write alt abilities for some of them

because they weren't very awesome

i believe one of two outta 12 of them are fairly cool tho

[austere whale]

Joker idea!

Big Little Planet

• When a hand is played, Creates 1 copy of your least played hand's planet per the amount of times it has been played

alt variation: at the end of round, creates 1 negative copy of your least played hand per the amount of times it has been played

[toxic cloud]

bullying Fleta so hard rn

[austere whale]

what is this mod? i feel like i have seen it before

[toxic cloud]

#1366605767167443006

[austere whale]

waow

looks cool

[polar oyster]

Least played can be 0?

I think it interesting idea, but you need play every hands once, for 1! planet card per hand

[full edge]

Yeah least played means you probably want to avoid triggering for 0

[polar oyster]

I think, if you try avoid 0, then if you have only play 1 poker hand, then it will only upgrade it

(1+times played hand) 🤔

[formal orchid]

Play #1325147180280971294

[rain orbit]

Play #1448925588701315223 test build

[austere whale]

yeah in that case nothing would generate cause 1 x 0 is 0

[austere whale]

yep, then you can cut it down so you get one specific planet specifically, or go the longer way to get two copies of one planet!

i think it being negative and working on at the end of round is also not that bad

because you can adjust it to

get negative copies of planets you don't want for blocking

but that's probably tooo overpowered

[polar oyster]

Hmm, it can naneinf if you have voucher for planet x1.5 mult (maybe)

[austere whale]

oh true

i haven't considered that actually

well i love observatory and any synergies with it but maybe this will make it too easy to naneinf?

yeah let's not do negatives

it will make two legendary tier strats a lot easier to access

(planet blocking and observatory naneinf)

[polar oyster]

Wait, if you need play poker hand for mult from planets, then it won't be least played hand🤔

[austere whale]

huh

[polar oyster]

I mean planets card work if you have observatory and play for specific hand, then it scales time played

My bad wording :(

Hmm

[austere whale]

i understand what you mean

basically you avoid playing a specific hand to upgrade it, when upgraded enough, you switch your poker hand to that one instead

that's the basic idea

[austere whale]

ohhhhhh

i didn't take account observatory again.. lol

well if it doesn't make negatives it wouldn't have observatory synergy

problem solved!

[desert mirage]

hello chat

[austere whale]

heya

[rain orbit]

That ain't looking too hot

[autumn otter]

I got a new pc recently y'all, could someone remind me which version of steammodded to download?

[somber solar]

You could install the latest

[frigid mica]

Hey guys, now that ROOT ACCESS is now Standalone, I should make it part of my bootleg card consumables and renaming it to “loadstring”.

Which begs the question, what should a bootleg card look like?

[hazy hill]

neon pink and moss colored