⚙・modding-general

[opal heath]

i was like first duolingo now this

[umbral pilot]

crafting table

yes,?

[unkempt current]

Beautiful

[desert mirage]

:craftingtable:

[unkempt current]

I thought it was what it actually looked like I was going "when did this guy recolor it"

[fiery night]

GO MY GIMMICKY JOKER CONCEPT

[vernal hare]

all my jokers so far

i plan to make a shit load of them

[fiery night]

Go my second gimmicky joker

[fiery night]

Neat

[past lava]

none of these words were in the bible

[full edge]

I reckon the word second shows up quite quickly to describe what god did after the first day

[desert mirage]

this is so cool

[forest knoll]

yayyy congrats on getting screenshader merged @woven orchid

[latent crescent]

this looks so nice

[woven orchid]

thank youuu

it’s so peak

[vernal hare]

thankies!!

[opal heath]

$naneinf

[cloud willow]

guh

also what is campfire doing

[opal heath]

x1.0 mult on next play, click to pay $2 and then gives x0.5 mult extre each time

i think

i think its x2

actually

i frogor

because x1 wouldnt make sense

i pickes it because of my money lol

[cloud willow]

alright back to brainstorming

still have no clue what to do for W84U ;-;

[opal heath]

brainstorm

[cloud willow]

no thats SAME

[opal heath]

brainstorm joker lool

[cloud willow]

SAME copies right most joker

[opal heath]

hm

[cloud willow]

RUOK

• Gives +50 chips per Miku Joker
  IMOK
• Gives +4 mult per Teto joker
  MISU
• gives X4 mult if you dont have a teto joker
  SAME
• copies effect of rightmost joker
  W84U
• ???
  STAY
• cards held in hand give x1.1 mult
  LUVU
• played hearts give +39 chips
  7388
• hearts held in hand give x2 mult on last hand

[opal heath]

i didnt ask you to make brainstorm for it

i jsut said "brainstorm" as a joke

but hmm

[cloud willow]

I did it before hand lol

[opal heath]

its like "wait for you" so what if its like round based or after some time

maybe that could be one idea

[cloud willow]

it switches effect every round

[opal heath]

oh ok

wouldnt work then

hmm

lol, next ante preview doesnt support ortalab

[cloud willow]

oop

[opal heath]

also, why does my antimatter deck say "applies the effects of almost every deck"

[lavish pike]

Im guessing some decks contrast with eachother/cancel out

for example the suit decks

[opal heath]

oh

may be because i installed aikoshen or something then

because some people have it apply upsides of every deck

also im on madness mode

hmm

lol attemt to call gmatch

i gotta start new run

[verbal parrot]

whats the mod that says what the jokers are gonna do right below them called

[full edge]

JokerDisplay

[verbal parrot]

thx

[opal heath]

you can also hide the sutff if you want

in jokerdisplay config

or by pressing right click

how does skipping nil blinds work lol

[verbal parrot]

let me go download the mod and disable all of its features yeah

[opal heath]

lol

[prisma latch]

hexcasting is my favourite minecraft mod

[opal heath]

you can just turn off everything here except hide by default if you want

or uncheck enabled todisable it lol

[vernal hare]

card border for entropy jokers

[placid folio]

did Steamodded or Lovely break in the past year?

none of my mods from mid 2025 are working despite the fact that Balatro hasn't been updated

[woven crag]

maybe at some point but they arent broken right now

are all your mods updated

[rain orbit]

[placid folio]

well the only two mods I used are Faster Stakes Unlock and Flush Hotkeys

[rain orbit]

Am I right lad or am I right lad

[ornate bone]

I admit I'm too friggen cheap to affoard aesprite

[woven crag]

i dont think flush hotkeys really gets updated anymore

you should use handy for hotkeys

[placid folio]

but why would it matter, ifBalatro itself never got updated?

[ornate bone]

so could I get the blind chip shine thing as a paint.net sheet

[placid folio]

how could it just break from thin air after mid 2025, if no other variables including Balatro, Steamodded or Lovely got updated on my machine?

[rain orbit]

Most people just pirate it because it's open source

[woven crag]

well updates to steamodded can change things

well

okay then idk

[prisma latch]

time for my favourite activity, designing a new consumable base

(it sucks)

its fun but it sucks

[ornate bone]

The consumable base I went with was just a little spirte.

because idk i thhought it was funny.

[opal heath]

gros michel with op superpower lol

some fo my tags said nope again??

huh??

[ornate bone]

plus there's no good sprite based on this monitor design. (As in accurate to how it looks in generations which was the design I was gonna go for)

so I went with a 16-bit version of...

[full edge]

What are you adding?

[prisma latch]

Mind cards that act as a source of media (mana) by giving you a certain amount when you comete a certain task while holding them

[long hare]

lmao i got puke vision in shop

[opal heath]

that looks trippy

[ornate bone]

this thing lol

[opal heath]

guess im making this many vochers

why did my negative tags say nope

??

oh wait, brainstorm??

[storm forum]

😛

[opal heath]

where did my shop go

wth do i do now

[latent crescent]

I hate when I cant restart a game without SMODS so I added keybind to do that

[opal heath]

Press C to Crash lol

[latent crescent]

If you want, sure

[opal heath]

yea lol i have it set as that in handy settings

[storm forum]

🤝

[normal hollow]

i was going to code blinds but i spent the afternoon refactoring code 😭

[opal heath]

so that sheet suggestion if it was real, would work now lol

the one i made i mean

[prisma latch]

think im getting a style down for these maybe

[opal heath]

lol

[prisma latch]

maybe i make the outline white for more contrast

[latent crescent]

I added crash keybind just for fun because I can

[opal heath]

so if i get that md, x40 mult on the sheet sugestion thing too

[latent crescent]

And sometimes having a way to crash a game in any moment manually can be useful

[opal heath]

"+x20 mult" for every mod that crashes the gme in any way

[latent crescent]

In theory

[opal heath]

yes

i was askonf if there was any way to crash game lol once

to reinitialise mods easily lol

then realised, alt+ f5 whemn someoen told me

what am i playng

or ab, ortalab, balatro, or ba ro (onyl one answer) lol

[fathom gust]

guess who's making solinium have an impractical equation (again)

[opal heath]

"Manually initiated crash What did you expect?" 🔥

[latent crescent]

log(M) / 100

[opal heath]

also why does handy reset to 8x aniation speed every time

[opal heath]

no, i see log mult

[latent crescent]

looks liek you're bad at math

[fathom gust]

im actually so dumb holy fuck 😭

[opal heath]

how to type in subscript?

[fathom gust]

geometry has fried my brain and i hate it

[latent crescent]

math is fine

[dusty token]

math is fun

[latent crescent]

indeed

[daring sluice]

reference....

[latent crescent]

btw frost I remember thing

And according to my calculation 14 hours is passed

[opal heath]

mathisfun0

[dusty token]

#⚙・modding-general message

forgot to ping on

[latent crescent]

I see

damn is this thing doesnt handle redirects by itself

This sucks

[dusty token]

prob doesnt

[wanton lintel]

👀

[latent crescent]

love.filesystem.mount is actually very cool

Like when I dont need to work with native stuff

[opal heath]

i have C to crash game

also save run doesnt really work

how is it meant to work

[latent crescent]

It calls save_run() when it's available

[opal heath]

infact my runs dont een save properly at all

[latent crescent]

It's not save-states

[opal heath]

oh

[wanton lintel]

make left click your crash hotkey

[opal heath]

"when it's available"

[latent crescent]

nope, I have checks to prevent you from softlock

[opal heath]

yeah you cant bind it

[latent crescent]

you tried I guess

[opal heath]

i only tried we=hen you said the checks

also pressing 1 to select all cards in hand with a high number of cards sometimes crashes my game lol

(i set it to 1)

[latent crescent]

buy better pc dude

[wanton lintel]

⋌⁔⋋

[latent crescent]

or rathery try to not select hand with 200+ cards

[opal heath]

not 200

[latent crescent]

calculating your hands is expensive

[opal heath]

around like 70

also my laptop is has a 8gb ram

i think the battery ruined it

[latent crescent]

no comments

[opal heath]

i mapped down to open mod settings

☠️

[fathom gust]

dude why is git trying to make my ENTIRE FUCKING COMPUTER a single repository

[latent crescent]

[opal heath]

bruh i clicked near clolection and it registered me clicking quit

☠️

[latent crescent]

1. damn, I guess I have to do that
2. Very cool, I'll try that for sure
3. Intented. I dont want thread do anything when I dont need it. I'm restarting it when I need and stop after job is done

Thank you

[opal heath]

im playing Or ab

[wanton lintel]

microsoft wants all your personal info to be public domain

theyre mickey mousing you

[opal heath]

speaking about microsoft, THEY SHOWED ME THE OOBE ON STARTUP

and asked me to enable account backup and pay for backup ms 365

hel no

i dont have ta kinds money

Or ab

[wanton lintel]

oracryptidyoriab

[opal heath]

lol

[prisma latch]

mind card

still needs tweaking

[lavish pike]

Oooh interesting

[opal heath]

anyone remember my sheet suggestion

[fathom gust]

my god you've already said this like 10 times

[lavish pike]

Reminds me of a particular honey slime /lh

[opal heath]

yea like 3 times already lol

[opal heath]

h

[fathom gust]

COUGHH coughh except more annoying /hj

[opal heath]

4 other people think its fire

[lavish pike]

LOL

-# also I don’t mind reply pings

[opal heath]

also @lavish pike did you update degeneracy

[fathom gust]

HE'S RIGHT THERE BRO

[lavish pike]

I am right here

How did you know?

[opal heath]

oh sorry

did u udate

[lavish pike]

Parts of it

[opal heath]

i just asked if you updated it

oh ok

[lavish pike]

I’m working on the new deck

[opal heath]

also why does craptid hae a random chace to crash when i hit main menu

[lavish pike]

It’s cryptid

[opal heath]

is it in the github repo

[fathom gust]

it's cryptid, of course everything causes a fucking crash

[lavish pike]

I don’t think it’s much of a surprise no 😭

[opal heath]

and cryptid can also set lots of decks to red deck in the new run menu

on restart that fixed

[lavish pike]

Why are you asking for help with that here btw?

[opal heath]

i am not, just referencing it

[lavish pike]

-# There is a cryptid discord server

[opal heath]

OH

ok

[lavish pike]

I would speak about it there

[opal heath]

well whats the link for it

[fathom gust]

i don't work on cryptid why are you pinging me about it

[opal heath]

because i thought id mention another cryptid bug that is not a crash

[lavish pike]

Go ping drago /j
-# don’t I will do this to you if you do /j :

[lavish pike]

Can you help me with cry-

[opal heath]

is the degeneracy update under releases now

[unkempt current]

Craptid

[lavish pike]

Nope

[unkempt current]

We all hate crypec

[lavish pike]

I want to sprite all of the jokers properly first

[opal heath]

yea, i called it shittid but craptid is better name for it ngl

[opal heath]

oh ok

[lavish pike]

Then I will consider finalising for 0.2

Although I have ideas for eight jokers

And am thinking about trying to add more

[opal heath]

also, does degeneracy without cryptid enabled cause crashes

[lavish pike]

I don’t play cryptid

[opal heath]

i mean with cryptid off or not installed

[lavish pike]

I don’t play cryptid
At all

[opal heath]

i mean like not installed so

[lavish pike]

If a mod is disabled it does nothing

[opal heath]

oh so then degeneracy is not th eproblem im reenabling it

[fathom gust]

starlight being the annoying fly

[opal heath]

its just craptid after all

[lavish pike]

Isooooo can I do this please? /j

[fathom gust]

i am SO STUPID

[lavish pike]

Nuh uh

[fathom gust]

i forgot linked gifs are banished from this place

[lavish pike]

Screenshot every frame /j

[opal heath]

lol, priority for degeneracy is 1

$naneinf is possible

all oyu need to be is an amulet user

lol

and a dp user

[lavish pike]

These jokers are now in

I just need to give them a name

[long hare]

do they have art yet

[lavish pike]

Nope

I want them to have a common theme, like the gemstone jokers

[long hare]

yeah i was figuring the same thing lol

oh idea: base them off of the tarots they come from

[lavish pike]

🤔

Hmmmm

[prisma latch]

what are peoples thoughts on this style for mind cards

im trying to make them look mystical but idk how well im succeeding

[opal heath]

is craptid why my balatro keeps not responding lol

[prisma latch]

also im wondering if a small latent amount of media should be earnt just based on the ranks of the cards you play or if i should just limit it to only being earnt via mind cards

[opal heath]

why does pressing the right button freeze balatro lol

[wanton lintel]

mind cards sourced from a mind goblin's determination

[prisma latch]

last time i met the mind goblin i got a nasty case of ligma

[wanton lintel]

does pressing it again unfreeze it? if so its prob a mod's pause/unpause keybind

[opal heath]

i cant really press again while its frozen, because loading thing on cursor

might be because i hae 11 cards selected while int he menu idk

i mean in the menu while selecting a dekc, sleeeve, stake..

[wanton lintel]

oh i see it quite literally makes balatro.exe not respond

[opal heath]

yea

[wanton lintel]

no clue

[opal heath]

and unfreezes after like 20s

[wanton lintel]

🤔

[opal heath]

...aaand the play button crashed the game

i was just tryna play degeneracy rat deck thing

lol

[lavish pike]

My mod has more than one page now!

[opal heath]

🔥

more than 1 page is better than 1 page only

[lavish pike]

Sometimes

[opal heath]

well for your mod it is

lol i see no one helping me with the play button crash so i don know if i can play degeneracy

giant rat deck

does antimatter sleeve apply the giant rat deck sleeve effect

lol

[prisma latch]

i do not want to do the art rn this is still a proof of concept and also i hate art

the one thing im worried about with hexgambling is that i kinda have to limit when hexes can trigger to only during hand scoring, cause otherwise theres not really a way to distinguish

cause a lot of the hexes would hypothetically be able to trigger at a ton of different points, but choosing which one of those points it does trigger is tricky

[opal heath]

uh do i use analog, im going ot prioritize flushing

use

analog

?

it wont destory

and hti sis from the first pack

[woven crag]

Analog on a droll joker is wild

[opal heath]

yea but im prioritizing flush

so will i be good

@woven crag

[prisma latch]

why tf are you pinging eris

[opal heath]

im asking if it will stil be fine as eris said analog on a droll joker is wild

or will it be like weird

[prisma latch]

theyre right here

[woven crag]

Im right here

[opal heath]

oh

should i use it

[woven crag]

Like i guess you can use it but also +1 ante

[opal heath]

doesnt really matter lol, always drawing 5 cards to hand

[woven crag]

Alrught

[fathom gust]

thanks, trance!

[opal heath]

bro that helped me score 14k

so it was good

[prisma latch]

hypothetically i could have some sort of joker or consumable or something that lets you combine a set of hexes into a trinket that activates at your chosen time? like maybe you can open a trinket pack and find a bunch of Empty Trinket consumables for the different times hexes could trigger, and then you use the Empty Trinket on a bunch of hex jokers to make a trinket joker that runs all of the hexes at that time

i dunno

would cause a bit of an issue where any hexes that can be used at other points but dont work during joker scoring might not be as optimal to pick up

then again hexes wont take joker slots and they probably wont be very costly either

[opal heath]

is it random for ace to be negative on startup

or is it a mod

[prisma latch]

well duh its a mod

negative aces dont exactly exist in vanilla

[opal heath]

i sold emerald and this mesage appeared "1 5 false"

[opal heath]

oh so it whne i updated degeneracy lol

i got ://PATCH

because i though ://GLOBAL would no help with a deck full of normal cards

random fps 2

nahhh

well imma go now

[prisma latch]

the strongest mana source in hexcasting is a cube

i honestly dont know if this should even be a spectral

its just a debug tool in the og mod

and thats what i was gonna use it as before i realised it could be the spectral

[main path]

flashy

[prisma latch]

woah??

is this using screenshaders

[main path]

Yep

Screenshaders got merged

[latent crescent]

missing sound effect so hard

[main path]

Yeah a sound effect would fit here
I'll have to find one thats appropriate

[latent crescent]

Cool to see that while I'm messing around with basic stuff in modding space cool stuff is happening

[prisma latch]

oh my god

all this time trying to figure out why my atlas wasnt working

the 2x didnt export at 2x scale

geode

might change it so that you have to use it to harvest the media

[latent crescent]

I have feeling that I seen you before

[stable juniper]

Flipbook now has a repo and thread ^^ https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1470216190545891559

[latent crescent]

Maybe will be better to use github's .md files to explain api rather than shitty discord

[stable juniper]

ya that's the plan

[latent crescent]

cool

[stable juniper]

it's just that i haven't finished it yet

[prisma latch]

ok wtf inSMODS.calculate_individual_effect it calls card_eval_status_effect passing in a variable named percent but the code beforehand does not define a percent variable? is this some global variable im just now learning of

[past lava]

someones watching this in pure rage droolthingystupid

[wanton lintel]

true

why did my vencord in particular break what the fuck

[past lava]

update your vencord

[prisma latch]

i have web vencord and it crashes whenever i right click a server

[tall perch]

Seems like it. A few functions set a global 'percent' in smods utils.lua

[prisma latch]

just spent a bit of time setting up a custom scoring return to increase media before realising im doing this to use it in a use function, which afaik does not accept returning them

[honest zephyr]

guys i'm playing the balatrostuck mod and for some reason whenever i trigger the cruxite apple the game just says "no", freezes, and then fucks off (closes)

[stray locust]

Any good mods (other than cryptid) for balatro?

[keen knoll]

mine

[past lava]

blindside

[tall perch]

mine

[past lava]

mayhem

geode

[stable juniper]

phanta :D

bakery paperback bunco ortalab mmmmmjokers bfdi catan maximus all in jest

[keen knoll]

and mine

[stable juniper]

you already said that one

[past lava]

and geode

[stable juniper]

i didn't wanna repeat

[honest zephyr]

did something change inbetween smods versions i didn't know about?

[latent crescent]

[normal hollow]

a lot changes between smods versions

[prisma latch]

wtf is the purpose of if not first or first then in juice_card_until

genuinely what does this code do i cant think of a single good reason for this code being here

[normal hollow]

thunk

[honest zephyr]

i could try triggering cruxite apple with smods 1016c

probably some Weird Ass Version Change Shenanigans

[cloud willow]

how could I reset a value on the start of a new run?

[balmy lily]

if run_start then
(do whatever here, probably variable setting.)
end
end```

[latent crescent]

Damn I only realize that in lua it's repeat until, not while

I was ddosing github a little bit, oopsie

[wanton lintel]

what the fuck is this

why do i have this

[winged prism]

Schlingus

Wtf

[left bison]

So is it common in cryptid to not get points after playing a hand

[normal hollow]

you shouldn't save to places that don't get reset

[winged prism]

Like do you have a global variable or something?

In that case it just should be in G.GAME.

[prisma latch]

neat

[mint spindle]

random question but is the polterworx server still up or have i just been banned for no reason

[winged prism]

Wouldn't be surprised

[mint spindle]

really unfortunate given their clear rule that past drama is in the past

maybe i can talk with the owner just to see what happened but idk

[wanton rapids]

theres a new one

[mint spindle]

oh

why would they make another new one

didn't pwx reborn JUST get endorsed by jen

that's good to hear though

[wanton rapids]

oh no that is the new one

[mint spindle]

oh

i barely even spoke in there i don't really know why i would get banished like this :(

[winged prism]

Probably breathed in a wrong tempo

[mint spindle]

in any case, who's the owner? is he in like this server or anything else that i would be in

again just confused and want to at the very least know why i was banned

[spring spade]

hey does anyone know how i can get in contact with cryptid server mods

my dumbass brother took my phone and got me banned by typing in the bot trap channel

[mint spindle]

maybe try messaging hexacryonic

they should be the first result when trying to ping "@hexa" in here

[blissful stag]

I see

[wanton rapids]

all or nothing

[winged prism]

Waow

[wanton lintel]

the what

holy shit they've got the electric chair room

[spring spade]

the channel meant for trapping scam bots

[spring spade]

@alpine bluff Hi hi yes hello

[grand geode]

why did you give your brother access to your account

💀

[wanton rapids]

hi myst

[grand geode]

hi mf

[spring spade]

i didn’t bro i just said he took my phone

[grand geode]

mm

i trust you

[spring spade]

we live in a society

[wanton lintel]

hello there myst and 🔺 +

[grand geode]

you're unbanned now

[wanton rapids]

hi lyre

[honest zephyr]

your brother seems evil

[long hare]

why does negative night vision look so cool lol

[forest knoll]

light vision or something

[toxic cloud]

huh

[woven orchid]

screenshader

[toxic cloud]

if the hand size addition is permanent it'd be cracked

[wanton rapids]

screenshader 🗣️

[granite forum]

is this permanent

[blissful stag]

jeez

[azure dagger]

I feel like Lua would have some kind of switch case thing like Java.

[long hare]

yes

[toxic cloud]

except it doesn't

elseif spam is the only way

[forest knoll]

ok but the real question is why does the loc_vars not have an initial if

[toxic cloud]

VS Code editor freezes the loc_vars line

[forest knoll]

ah

[toxic cloud]

you're only shown the bottom of it

[robust dew]

how do i mod balatro

nvm

[exotic shadow]

(and MacOS)

If you want to I can relicense the smods https code for use in such a tool (at least the parts that are mine to relicense). It's barely tied to smods, you'd have to like change ethe logging and rmeove the part to srt the user agent. You could also implement zip extraction using lov apis but you might as well jsut use lovely zip loading since it's availabl now

[wanton lintel]

we all love elseif spam

[wicked jasper]

wait,, jokerforge uses scratch-like drag-n-drop?

they're even the same colours,,

[main path]

sfx rahhhhhh 🔥

[forest knoll]

no, this is a different tool
i don't think it's public yet

[wanton rapids]

no this is just scratch

[wicked jasper]

ah

i don't use jf so i wouldn't know :p

[hard plank]

i think it's the thing that the Σ guy made

[glad solar]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1456733064628539484

[forest knoll]

yea that's what i was thinking of

[hard plank]

there was something like this but it was unfinished

i guess this is the more finished version

oh nvm

it's the same thing?

am i stupid

[azure dagger]

Absolute Treasure 🤚 🥹 ✋

[hard plank]

ok i might be a little stupid

it is just that one

[wanton rapids]

that also uses blocks but i do think this is just a recreation made in scratch

[nimble nest]

Fun fact: the most mods Ive been able to run without crashing upon starting a run was 198 mods!

But it only ran at 1 FPS CONSTANTLY so it might as well have crashed

I dont even remember the combination of mods I used, just the number

[wanton lintel]

i think that is classified as pc torture

[mint spindle]

i really hate that i misread this initially and had to do a double-take

i saw the p and c as switched

[wanton lintel]

(⓿_⓿)

[granite forum]

why-

it would be good just per round

permanent makes this like
legendary at worst

not quite cryptid exotic

[desert mirage]

hello chat

[forest knoll]

hello mari

[mint spindle]

agreed

permanent +hand size makes this extremely powerful

[rain orbit]

[granite forum]

joker persona

[toxic cloud]

jimbo battle advanced

[honest zephyr]

the way the music kicks in is kinda hype and aura moment...

[granite forum]

the Σ did make joker blocks tho
it was never in scratch but it does use the same api i think

[wanton rapids]

i know

but this isn't joker blocks

[granite forum]

it's not???

oh wait is it really not

dang

[honest zephyr]

i've survived off of only this 😭

[granite forum]

it's not

what tf is this program

[honest zephyr]

damn that's cool

[wanton rapids]

scratch

i literally said it's a recreation

[granite forum]

huh

i need to learn to read

[wanton lintel]

this is quite literally just blackjack in scratch

[wicked jasper]

oh 😭

[hard plank]

hi

[wanton lintel]

hello aiko

[wicked jasper]

i don't remember scratch blocks looking quite like that ngl

[wanton rapids]

okay not a recreation but close enough

[wicked jasper]

[wanton rapids]

I think they changed it recently (or it's some extension)

[wicked jasper]

ah

[wanton rapids]

hi aiko

[wicked jasper]

i haven't used scratch since i had to play scratch recreations of games to get around school blocking

[granite forum]

hi aiko

[granite forum]

beans 3

[wicked jasper]

and that was years ago bc i'm not a kid anymore

[wanton lintel]

i dont blame you for thinking that
last time i shared a scratch project it was my scratchlatro

[wicked jasper]

(i'm old)

[wanton lintel]

or it mightve been the joker creator

[wanton lintel]

just checked that code again and jeez this guys a cocky bastard

[winged prism]

Chat

Chirp

Does "If cards in played hand alternate between dark and light suits, scoring cards give X1.5 Mult" sound reasonable

And if it does, does it sound uncommon

Chirp chirp

[wanton rapids]

maybe a rare or lower payoff

but it's a reasonable trigger condition

ancient joker sidegrade if it's rare actually

[winged prism]

Oooohh right

I forgot about ancient

[wanton lintel]

flush players found dead in the streets
but still fire

[winged prism]

Straights keep winning ig

[fathom gust]

full house, pair, two pair users crying tears of joy

[wanton rapids]

high card:

[formal orchid]

play my mods...

[torn urchin]

Fishing

[hard plank]

sorry

[winged prism]

I forgive you

[spring spade]

yeah he’s kind of a bastard

[wicked jasper]

cruel

[eternal portal]

and unusual!

[grand geode]

what if mystblinds was unfair

[mint spindle]

this is horrid 😭

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

ARE THESE HYPERBLINDS

HYPERBLINDS TOMORROW

[spare token]

my pants are ruined

with the purple Ooze™️

[hard plank]

hyperblinds

[eternal portal]

hyperblinds

i made 20 of 23 vanilla blinds so far

then im gonna make 5 showdowns

and the Small and Big

[ember flicker]

thee lily card

[wanton rapids]

mystblinds real 2026?

[spare geyser]

this might be a stupid blind idea

[azure dagger]

"No Sweat Insurance" you know ball

[spare geyser]

yes do we think this is a fair blind idea tho chat?

[azure dagger]

I mean... I could see it being fair.

[spare geyser]

depends how poor you are when you get it fr lol

[grand geode]

absolutely fucking not

[spare token]

idkf

[grand geode]

you start with $100 in the challenge for a reason

or 50 idr

[severe scarab]

Anyone have a good consumable stacking mod they recommend? I'm finding that both https://github.com/OceanRamen/Saturn and https://github.com/lord-ruby/Overflow have bugged interactions with perkeo and so looking for an alternative

[spare geyser]

theres a challenge like that?

[azure dagger]

I think Luxury Tax?

[spare geyser]

different but similar

[azure dagger]

Rich Get Richer, where Chips cannot exceed $

[spare geyser]

ah forgot about that

[wanton rapids]

okay its a bit better because its mult instead of chips

but this is still horrendous

[spare geyser]

hm

well do y'all have any suggestions to make this not a horrendous idea

random other blinds

[spare token]

EDGING

[spare token]

one joker gets sold automatically

[spare geyser]

yes you never get edged in fortnite?

[spare token]

i haven't played fortnite in a year

[wanton rapids]

isnt edging just the chromatic cryptid?

[spare geyser]

damn

[woven orchid]

somehow i read Edging as "gold cards score negative"

and i was like wow that isnt very difficult

[spare geyser]

lol

[spare geyser]

mfw gold cards give me negative money

[modern socket]

Hey are there any cool mods that actually add like a new mechanic?

[spare geyser]

i mean Fortlatro adds alot of things
#1327844797653843978

[manic summit]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1380767966341238794

mod is discontinued but should still work

[woven orchid]

can i be honest here

im not saying this anywhere else because i dont want to get peoples hopes up but im

really thinking about rewriting valk from the ground up again and cutting out everything problematic design-wise

[manic summit]

🤔

[woven orchid]

it could be great but it just misses the mark

[wanton rapids]

wasnt ruby doing that?

[woven orchid]

i don't want to burden her with my mod

[wanton rapids]

fair

[woven orchid]

she's got enough to do

[manic summit]

@modern socket also https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy

[modern socket]

BTW dont mind my pfp

[woven orchid]

tbh with my modern knowledge

[modern socket]

thx btw

ill check it out lol

[wanton rapids]

most people werent going to

[woven orchid]

i genuinely think i could rewrite valk with ease w/o even looking at the original code

[spare token]

the femboy rat porn

[woven orchid]

i feel like working on aqu in recent times has made me so much better at the few skills i lacked back then

[modern socket]

we dont talk about it

I just like the character i swear 🥀

[spare geyser]

theres probably so much old stuff in fortlatro i could make better nowadays but if it works it works

[spare token]

sure you do, buddy, sure you do😭

[manic summit]

this is not the conversation for modding chat so stop 🙏

[spare token]

ok bye

[modern socket]

Well you didn't have to call me out

[manic summit]

^

[spare token]

instinct

[modern socket]

fair

I would've done the same thing

lol

hows your day

(or night)

[spare geyser]

fun fortlatro facts almost all of the code for everything is in 1 main.lua file

[spare token]

the voices call my name and scratch at the walls

[manic summit]

[woven orchid]

Please Bro

[spare geyser]

what?

[wanton rapids]

mfkaacore

[woven orchid]

absurdity

this is like the opposite of me

you have one 27k line lua file

[wanton rapids]

do you have 27k one line lua files??

[woven orchid]

and i have all this for a much much smaller mod

lowk should delete hooks.lua because i can put all the hooks in there under some other category

[modern socket]

btw do yall have suggestions for good texture packs

or whatever its called

[hard plank]

what mechanics

[wanton rapids]

#1326135270759993364

[hard plank]

triangle the punchline is to get to the other side

[spare geyser]

also fun fact almost every single asset is on 1 sprite sheet (minus the title, blinds, achievements, and any animated jokers)

[woven orchid]

yesterday i learned something interesting

[wanton rapids]

punchline like from punchline

idk what punchline is

[spare geyser]

punchline reference!11!

[hard plank]

like

[woven orchid]

g.uit.root isnt necessarily required for UI but if you dont have it the elements will just position themselves wherever the fuck they want

[wanton rapids]

i should figure out blockbuster playsets

[hard plank]

what if i just add

4krg to balatro

[wanton rapids]

you could

[woven orchid]

this is what happened when no g.uit.root

[hard plank]

what no G.UIT.ROOT does to a UIElement

[woven orchid]

literally

shit just puts itself wherever it wants 😭

tbh its probably just positioning relative to the parent of the uielement its a part of? idk

either way dont forget your roots guys!

[spare token]

something looks a lil off about the background...

[woven orchid]

purpol

[spare token]

orange

[spare geyser]

purpol

fun fact entering the konami code on the title screen will allow you to play an arcade game next update

[mint spindle]

is that the fucking arcade game from fortnite

[spare geyser]

yes

[mint spindle]

oh wait

fort

latro

[spare geyser]

yes

fortnite balatro

[mint spindle]

🤦‍♂️

i never even realized fortlatro was fortnite

oh my god 😭

[spare geyser]

crazy

[plush hound]

you're the reason the idea of divorce exists

[lavish pike]

What 😭

[random nest]

this wheel blind rework is crazy

[lavish pike]

2 pair in nil

[azure dagger]

How evil are these blinds?

[grand geode]

bad design
bad design
bad design
forcing low game speed makes the boss boring as shit
too random, replace/destroy can kill runs

[unkempt current]

I agree

[azure dagger]

Alright, going to the scrapped ideas list.

[woven crag]

Satisfying slowdown does jackshit because you can just turn back up the gamespeed immediately after the hand is calculated

[unkempt current]

For the bad designs,
These boss blinds do nothing if you have a build around their respective hands, but can kill your run if else. They don't fit well with the other showdowns
Local Thunk actually had boss blinds similar to these but he replaced them because of this.

Gaslight can be interesting if it didn't destroy or do smth bad your jokers

[azure dagger]

tbh they weren't really meant to be Showdown Blinds. They just have alliteration because. why not.

[unkempt current]

hmm

Oh yeah I just noticed

[wicked jasper]

:3

[woven crag]

Interesting

[plush hound]

its about to get freaky

[full edge]

Sick

[wanton rapids]

timebomb + flashlight mod...

[plush hound]

i could use this feature for Bad Director but i dont think SMODS is pushing another update soon

[normal hollow]

soon hopefully

its nice that at least every smods version has cool features people like i think

[fallow bramble]

I hate EVERY smods features we should go back to its FIRST version!!

[wanton rapids]

0.0.1 smods...

[wicked jasper]

backport sdm's stuff then,,

[wanton rapids]

0.1.5 apparently

[latent crescent]

Would be cool but up to you, of course.
About zip, frost pointed me to love.filesystem.mount, and it works as unzip thing, even faster than calling os.execute

Mod downloading and installing happens in 2 seconds total

Also may I ask for wss implementation?

[fallow bramble]

Gulp

[full edge]

I have a Joker in Kino that I want to have some visual flair that uses a screen shader with a similar effect. Would you mind if I gutted your code for the flashlight for that?

[latent crescent]

also you're replying to 4-days-old message, that's crazy

[round elk]

too evil

[plush hound]

yeah sure

im about to release the mod either way

hold on

im not a mod farmer bt

btw

[hard plank]

bosses that forces you (not) to play specific hand types are ass

game speed should not affect the gameplay apart from... speed

also i should probably make bug destroy leftmost instead

[cloud willow]

does G.GAME reset every game?
thats where I was planning to put it but wasn't sure if I needed to reset it

[normal hollow]

yes

[cloud willow]

oh perfect

[full edge]

btw, I'm implementing a Deadpool joker that I want to be annoying and constantly chit-chatting. Wanna write some dialogue

[normal hollow]

why are you handing nxkoo a gun

[rain orbit]

Typa shit they gonna write:

[wanton rapids]

should have lines for specific joker combinations

[prisma latch]

lmao

deadpool mocks you for using photochad

[rain orbit]

"Like 2 wees in a pod" when getting wee joker

[balmy lily]

new farmable?

[full edge]

That's the idea. Though I don't wanna over do it, haha

Just need to figure out why the code isn't working for Deadpool. He gives chips based on how long you've stared at his description, continuously

Which resets if you go check it, of course

[wanton rapids]

of course

intentionally dont implement jokerdisplay for deadpool

[full edge]

Implementing it as the only one, and he just tells you to go fuck yourself

[wanton rapids]

True...

[prisma latch]

every joker has jokerdisplay but deadpool just straight up lies in his

[full edge]

I'm trying to figure out what I need to hook, or what object or variable I can check for to see if a joker's UI currently exists

[wanton rapids]

could you not just check if the card is hovered?

[full edge]

so glad this community is filled with shapes and letters that know more than me

[wanton rapids]

though controller support

[grand geode]

yeah flag on hover and remove flag on stop hover

[wanton rapids]

and i guess if its face down too

[full edge]

Face down-ness is easy to check

Kino's basically unplayable with controller already anyway, so that's a problem for future ice that'll only look into controller support if people bother him about it

[grand geode]

mood

[normal hollow]

people have bothered me about it and i couldnt figure it out

[wanton rapids]

you should definitely do this though

[full edge]

I will, haha

I've not yet looked into JokerDisplay, but I'll give adding full support an honest attempt for 1.0

[normal hollow]

its not hard just time consuming

[full edge]

Ideally I'd find a way to make that easier, haha. I haven't even glanced at JD, so I don't know what it can do already, but I suspect that with how I've set up jokers to all be able to be handled by my value manip system, I might be able to streamline some stuff and write some generic functions

And if that can't be done, I'll just rewrite an advanced version of JokerDisplay. Though, I guess I won't add any ads so it'll just be vanced

I'll call it JD Vance

[normal hollow]

im blocking u

[full edge]

i omninegate that

[normal hollow]

damn

[wanton rapids]

is that just like a counterspell taped to a stifle or something

thats insane

[full edge]

idk i don't play yugioh i just listen to streamers that play it sometimes

[normal hollow]

wtf is a stifle

[wanton rapids]

counters an activated or triggered ability

they should add a consumeable that lets you do that to balatro

[normal hollow]

omninegate is just something that can negate any effect

[prisma latch]

chicot

[wanton rapids]

no but you can counter your own effects

[full edge]

I wanna be able to rope my own plays and lose a run to my timer running out

Imagine having a counter spell consumable and having to clock 'ignore' for every trigger in your 200 joker cryptid run

[wanton rapids]

they should do this

[normal hollow]

lost a run bc i accidentally misclicked ignore on the boss blind trigger

[full edge]

It's a shame there's not a mtg equivalent to JoyousSpring, where it goes full overhaul with new mechanics. As much as I love JoyousSpring, I just don't know enough about YuGiOh to appreciate the intricacies

But I wanna play and tap lands in my run

[normal hollow]

they should make magic the jokering or something

[wanton rapids]

counter the manacle giving my hand size back

[full edge]

Magic the Jokering is a bit more Kino than it is JoyousSpring right?

[wanton rapids]

i believe so

[normal hollow]

i didnt play it but it seemed like it

[full edge]

As in, large changes to theming and bunch of new Mechanics, but not a fundamental overhaul

[wanton rapids]

add a Battle card where you can redirect your scoring

[normal hollow]

i didnt like that the cards were just low resolution mtg cards

[full edge]

A battle consumable that you can target instead of the blind is a pretty damn cool idea

Has a goal based on when you bought it, and you have to basically waste a hand to beat it down, until you get its positive effect

Wait, I'm gonna bring back my Black Panther joker to be a variant of this

[wanton rapids]

sagas could be added basically 1 to 1

[full edge]

Tbf most enhancement types are just jokers haha

[wanton rapids]

enchantment?

[full edge]

Yup

My autocorrect is balatro pilled

[wanton rapids]

split / double faced cards could be interesting

bakery does those right?

[full edge]

Old version of Black Panther that I scrapped was an active joker that would remove 10% of your mult each hand while it was active, and then consume it to give you that score when it was inactive

Yeah, there's multiple mods that try to go for that design space. Active jokers for me are also a variant on that, in part

[wanton rapids]

add snow jokers that require snow money to purchase

[full edge]

I think a Black Panther joker that has a score threshold based on the current ante, and just swallows your whole score when you play a hand, when it's active, and then gives a good bonus based on how often you've beaten it

[full edge]

I'd have to use the search function to see who it was, but someone suggested a shop that could use hand levels as an alternate cost for specific items, and I'm so into the idea of alternate currencies

[wanton rapids]

oh i saw that

[full edge]

Btw, @normal hollow, will you be adding full arts, now that that's a thing? 😋

[plush hound]

👀

sure

[wanton rapids]

wait they only just got full arts?

[full edge]

Yeah. Yugioh mostly just did foiling and power creep with its rarities

no art treatments

[wanton rapids]

interesting

[full edge]

i doubt N will add those because they're all modern updates for classic archetypes

like blue eyes and dark magician

[wanton rapids]

ah okay

[ember flicker]

lol

you thought of the perfect person

[vernal hare]

final breath and grave robber

[normal hollow]

probably

[normal hollow]

there are many modern ones too

they just released a second alt for a card in master duel so now i need to figure out how to implement it into the mod sine it automatically generated a checkbox before

and now it needs to be a selection

[prisma latch]

oh boy i am so excited to make a custom type of card, it surely will not suck really badly

[full edge]

will have to figure out the rate at which I want this to scale, but it all works

so that's good

[prisma latch]

oh damn i dunno if i should be extending SMODS.Center or SMODS.GameObject here
tags extend GameObject and the thing i want to make is kiinda like tags? they just sit in the stack cardarea and hold a piece of information until a joker reads the info and destroys them

[full edge]

I've extended gameobjects for things before, like Counters, and I know Tags aren't centers, but from a modding perspective, I'm now kinda wondering what the downside is of making everything you're working with a center 🤔

[prisma latch]

either way learning how to extend smods classes is certainly gonna be fun

prolly best i extend SMODS.Center cause frankly it seems less confusing lol

oh i should check how ortalab does its little zodiac icon things

thatll probably help a bunch

[prisma latch]

ok so turns out ortalab's zodiac icon thingies just extend tags

[rain orbit]

I still don't know what zodiac do

[prisma latch]

they give temporary buffs to different hand types

bonus levels and a special effect

[full edge]

<@&1133519078540185692>

okay, that's another joker finished. 3 left.

[granite forum]

remy next to thanos

[dusty token]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[prisma latch]

made a slightly more ornate tag base to use for Iotas

[cloud willow]

finally had an idea for W84U

gives +10 chips per hand you've had this card for

[full edge]

Going to take some extra time for the more elaborate UI I've got in mind. Just need to figure out the basics of dynatext beyond updating the text, so I can actually update the colour too, haha

oh wait, seems that should be very easy

[prisma latch]

card, suit and number iotas

[full edge]

Liking the colour scheme

[prisma latch]

trying to think of what other iotas might be needed.. possibly ones for enhancements, editions and maybe seals

might be worth it to give consumables and jokers their own iotas too

how do i do a consumable icon besides just making the card thinner..

[full edge]

you add the little divots tarot cards have for their name and number

[prisma latch]

true

[rustic plover]

i was looking at my joker ideas for a yume nikki balatro mod and realized i just made a better version of seance

sobbing

[prisma latch]

does this look sufficiently taglike

might expand the outer border by a pixel on each side

iii thiink im happy with this for the tag iota

oh i should. probably add a boolean iota lmao

booleans are Kinda important

[full edge]

Okay, colours for dynatext are kinda weird. Pretty easy to set a colour for different strings, but seemingly harder to do that if you want to dynamically update the colour

[normal hollow]

you need to use a function iirc

[full edge]

I suspect it's something like that, yeah. Going through the dynatext code rn to figure out the details of how colours work

[normal hollow]

i have an example i wrote for winter let me see if i can find it

#💻・modding-dev message

hmm i think this modified the node and not the dynatext

but its something like that

[full edge]

What's happening in the gif isn't dynamically changing the colour, is it?

oh, wait, is this for background colour?

that'd be a similar issue, yeah

I see the connection now

[celest oar]

can anybody tell me what this joker is?

[plush hound]

what mod

[celest oar]

cryptid and/or multiplayer

yeah cryptid

might be the error joker? but the card art is different

but this is also a multiplayer joker i got in singleplayer

[full edge]

Does it not mention the mod in the badge?

[celest oar]

it says "MULTIPLAYER"
"Art: aura?"

I've checked the wiki for both cryptid and mp, and neither mention this joker

[full edge]

it'll be multiplayer, then. I guess the wiki's just outdated

[wanton rapids]

did you use a copying effect or something?

[celest oar]

no, just bought it from the shop because it looked odd

had it before, but no clue what it does

the mp wiki was last updated on the 6th of feb

I suspect that multiplayer jokers just do this when you're not in multipalyer

but i can confirm if I come acros another

[full edge]

have you asked on the mp discord?

[normal hollow]

its this one https://github.com/Balatro-Multiplayer/BalatroMultiplayer/blob/a5555382fa3521cecb8125b1f1aa0059e70a73dc/objects/jokers/sandbox/error.lua#L2

[celest oar]

i have not... thank you

[normal hollow]

dunno what it does

[full edge]

Thanks! Clearly not set up the right target for it, but the colour change functions!

my favorite thing about messing around with UI is how human readable the code is

[toxic cloud]

yikes

[prisma latch]

is this recognisable

[full edge]

yes that's an r, and the logo for r studios

yeah, it's a blind

[prisma latch]

ok cool

[toxic cloud]

Triboulet killer

[prisma latch]

iotas

oh damn forgot to put shine on the blind iota

here we go

they dont need to be super immediately recognisable because you can always hover over them

but still, its nice to have

[amber river]

what do these beautiful lirrlw do-dads do

[prisma latch]

essentially, they are variables

you can have a joker that takes a played card and puts it on the iota stack, and then another one that retriggers the card at the top of the stack

[amber river]

that sounds awesome

and innovative

[prisma latch]

thanks! its all stolen

im just adapting the minecraft mod hexcasting lmao

[amber river]

😭

as long as you're not infringing copyright ✨

[prisma latch]

lemme just put the entirity of minecraft in my balatro mod

[amber river]

someone did that

[prisma latch]

they what

[amber river]

they mined balatro and done crafted it

[prisma latch]

ok ive extended GameObject to make an Iota class and ive defined a boolean iota type. i have no clue where to go from here

do i gotta make my own custom version of add_tag to spawn it in

[wicked jasper]

i'd assume so

[prisma latch]

i do not even slightly understand this code

[full edge]

You'll have to do a whole lot of set up for it now, yeah

You can take a look at the counters API, if you wanna see an example, as that's a new gameobject

[toxic cloud]

there are a lot more things to consider starting from where you are rn

the effort in extending SMODS.GameObject may vary

[full edge]

localization, proper registration, classes, ui, all needs to be made again if you extend from gameobjects

[prisma latch]

i may be more confused now

GameObjecs are confusing

im starting to think extending GameObject instead of Center or Tag was a mistake

[full edge]

why did you opt to not extend tags?

At least based on what you've said, that would seem like a decent choice

[prisma latch]

maybe, ig im just worried that theyd end up too similar to tags, but i can try it

like, i dont want anything that can generate tags to generate iotas

the main thing they have in common is appearance/size and stacking in a cardarea

theres not much beyond that

[full edge]

if you extend tags, you overrule register and classification functions, if you want to. That way you can make sure they're not in the tag pool

[toxic cloud]

the only example I can find about extending SMODS.GameObject being low-effort is from my mod
where the object only stores a list of functions, which is entirely back-end

[full edge]

But you'd still be able to add them to tag-specific areas, and use their calculation

[prisma latch]

ok this is a start, though still gotta make my own add_iota function it seems so not quite as helpful as id hope

[rare garnet]

I don't know whose mod is this "Amnesia" blind is but it sure as hell ain't working

[prisma latch]

uhh

[hard plank]

oops

[rare garnet]

Oh it you

[hard plank]

not really

[rare garnet]

oh ok

[hard plank]

that is NOT my boss

[hard plank]

but i see vocalatro

[normal hollow]

sorry i forgot

[craggy jay]

windows defender is defending me from playing balatro for the rest of the day

works like a charm

god bless windows defender antivirus security whatever its called

[stable juniper]

Flipbook now has a README, with a tutorial on usage :D https://github.com/GhostSalt/Flipbook/blob/main/README.md

it may not be 100% done, so if anything's wrong or unclear, lmk ^^;;;

[glad solar]

This is so cool!!

[stable juniper]

thanks!!! :D!

[full edge]

I think it's time to start converting Kino to using canvassprite

instead of its precursor meta made for me

[stable juniper]

currently changing Phanta's animations over to Flipbook ones

will do BFDI's One Animation™ next

[full edge]

Oh no, it seems like the latest version of smods makes Kino crash on launch

That's no good

[feral bloom]

anyone know what the name of the mod that allows you to drag to select cards?

[full edge]

Handy

[feral bloom]

cool, thank you

[opal heath]

im back now

[wicked jasper]

old ass joker art but i reworked an old joker from my mod

[hard plank]

😭

[wicked jasper]

changed the attention text to be clearer abt what changes