⚙・modding-general

[latent crescent]

I see

impressive, I guess

[keen knoll]

you cant

it was discontinued and the creator delisted everything

[hard coral]

why cant i?

[exotic tree]

I decided to go that route just because it'd be a lot more complicated and prone to breaking if I tried to do it with a shader, since you can typically use only one shader per card due to Love2D limitations and I didn't want to replace any vanilla shader effects

[hard coral]

is it not on github anymore

[latent crescent]

it never was in github in a first place

[keen knoll]

well it was never on github

yea

[hard coral]

i saw some dude do it on the jens almanac discord but i cant find the link

[latent crescent]

its removed

[woven crag]

yeah the download isnt in the discord anymor

and that was the only place where you can download it

not like it would work anyway unless you downgrade all the other mods you have to really old versions

[dusty token]

where do people keep discovering abt jens

[neon urchin]

if you havent done this b4 u never lived

[unkempt current]

How the
Jen's almanac is dead, for months
The download link is gone and it's cancelled

I had a screenshot of the announcement but I lost it

[hard coral]

dang

[woven crag]

probably really old youtube videos

if i had to guess

[lavish pike]

even then, you arent meant to

[hard coral]

oh shucks

[lavish pike]

even if you found someone

you shouldnt

[woven crag]

okay i think we got the point across

[lavish pike]

my bad

[unkempt current]

Yeah
The owner does not like it if somebody found or shared a link

Okay woop

Anyways

Uhh

[hard coral]

why's that?

[unkempt current]

I should start working on a mod

[dusty token]

balatro

[unkempt current]

I'm gonna take that to DMs

[woven crag]

the creator burnt out and stuff and left the community and got rid of his mod everywhere

because of a lot of controversy

[buoyant kestrel]

https://soundcloud.com/sspin-st/storyspin-96

(thumbnail)

[frozen parrot]

apparently not really old, some are straight up recent (like days ago)

if anything, this guy made like three downloads wherein he fixed major bugs in almanac

[balmy lily]

i am not planning to dig up almanac's grave just for mod c ontent

[lavish pike]

I dont think you should anyway 😭

[wicked jasper]

also thinking of making the shop do smtn like niko's dealmaker present from stocking stuffer

[silk sphinx]

Wardrobe
Sell this Joker to change your deck to another random deck.

[clear barn]

ok guys I need help

I am trying to move the version.dll file of Lovely to the balatro folder

But it tells me I need permission from administrator

And idk how to do that

Cause like, am I not the administrator

[rustic helm]

shh, hes sleeping

[woven crag]

do you not have admin on your own pc

[clear barn]

I do that's why I'm confused af

[woven crag]

can you do other admin things

like running programs as administrator

[west pecan]

Sorry my bad

[rustic helm]

you guys woke him up

[woven crag]

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WAKE UP

[rustic helm]

hes already awake

[solemn mason]

I was only lurking.

[clear barn]

yeah

[woven crag]

that is

[unreal stag]

hey guys how do i add bignum to lua love2d?

[woven crag]

quite strange

[clear barn]

it is indeed

[woven crag]

in what sense exactly

like talisman exists for balatro

but if you want to do it for something seperate then the balatro modding chat is probably isnt a great place to start

[unreal stag]

oh

[buoyant kestrel]

theres so many bignum-like lua libraries

[woven crag]

since youll mostly be porting the existing bignum from js to lua

or just referencing talisman i guess

also true yeah

[buoyant kestrel]

i'd say it isn't a good idea to yoink talisman due to licensing

[unreal stag]

well im not really talking about balatro so yeah

[buoyant kestrel]

unless you are okay with the license it is under

[woven crag]

referencing

not

copy pasting

[unreal stag]

ill need to find a server i can discuss this in

[buoyant kestrel]

oh i wasn't thinking about what you said

unrelated

[latent crescent]

ha, jonh balala

[unreal stag]

because its not really balatro related
im just trying to add bignum to my lua love2d project

[buoyant kestrel]

you can google it

i know theres a bunch

though check the licenses

[unreal stag]

ive found a bignum library (bundled with bigrat) however it does not seem to work

[solemn mason]

Are cat ears a Nitro thing?

[latent crescent]

not really

[unreal stag]

nope you can get them with orbs for free

[latent crescent]

Cost few bucks

or this

talisman has own bignum implementation in own file which in theory you can use

[unreal stag]

just make sure to not install spyware on your pc even though its sponsored by discord themselves

[buoyant kestrel]

the humble license

so you must be okay with the terms to use it

[dusty token]

you can use it
but if you (re)distribute it you must license it under gpl3 and share the source code and credit talisman

[buoyant kestrel]

this is an actual game so it is a little more important

[unreal stag]

do you think i can use the ennorehling bignum library?

[dusty token]

if you want simple bignum (up to ee308) you can try using https://github.com/veprogames/lua-big-number

[exotic tree]

.....huh

[buoyant kestrel]

chilling with a nice MIT

[exotic tree]

My game is now crashing on launch inconsistently

I think I'm genuinely running up to a memory issue here

And it's just automatically stopping

[latent crescent]

there's no shot

how this can be possible

[exotic tree]

I can't find a consistent repro for it. I guess I could try to restart my computer

Sometimes I pass it, sometimes it just closes without a log

[unreal stag]

will this be safe to install/put in my game? (yes i know thats a stupid question but i'd better want to be safe than sorry)

[buoyant kestrel]

lmao its like 1000 lines total

just look at it

[dusty token]

yeah

its the one talisman once used

its safe

no io/os operations

[unreal stag]

...
i started lua programming like 9 days ago i cannot read shit bro

but well im gonna trust crust

[buoyant kestrel]

i just skimmed that shit

its fine

[latent crescent]

what kind of projet you making which needs such big numbers from the start

[unreal stag]

even though the noise is a nefarious character i think he's telling the truth

[unreal stag]

a clicker/merging/incremental game

[latent crescent]

Makes sense

[buoyant kestrel]

fair enough

[latent crescent]

Good luck then

[dusty token]

probably stack overflow somewhere and there's no room to initialize the error handler

[latent crescent]

Share your progress

And one day someone will implement this in balatro because why not

[unreal stag]

went in here cuz balatro uses love2d and the numbersloppy balatro mods also use bignum

[exotic tree]

Okay computer restarted....... and still nothing

[buoyant kestrel]

ong where else would you go lmao

genuine question

[latent crescent]

incremental game inspired by cryptid, that's crazy

[unreal stag]

maybe the love2d discord if one even exists???

[buoyant kestrel]

other than the goofy love2d forums

[exotic tree]

Hmmm okay yeah

[unreal stag]

not all incremental games are inspired by cryptid bro 😭

[latent crescent]

but this one will

[exotic tree]

I stashed my changes, and now it's fine. The main change that I made here is that I split up the atlas for suits into four separate atlases

[unreal stag]

i love numberslop and all of the omeganum-breaking mods that make numbers go shaboing

[exotic tree]

So the only thing I can really point to is that it now it's using more memory on load

[solemn mason]

I decided not to; I look fabulous already.

[exotic tree]

These are some really big tables it's pre-caching I suppose

[dusty token]

all atlases are loaded on startup

[exotic tree]

Completely unrelated to what I'm doing

[latent crescent]

When I see some sort of numberslop mods or games like Revolution Idle I'm curious how such insane amount of calculation even handled, not even including updating and rendering UI for all this infinitely changing numbers

I'm looking on it from web perspective where updating values in DOM kinda expensive

[exotic tree]

Okay this is insane I think I've genuinely hit some kind of resource ceiling already 😭

[buoyant kestrel]

i need to actually implement that factory game where you are helping launder and embezzle money

[latent crescent]

Game have limit of 2 gigs of ram available

More than that insta crash

[exotic tree]

It is entirely possible I'm hitting that

[latent crescent]

Replace this one in your debugplus:
DebugPlus/lovely/debug-enhancements.toml:133

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "game.lua"
match_indent = true
pattern = 'love.graphics.print("Current FPS: "..fps, 10, 10)'
position = "at"
payload = '''
do
    local otherSize = 0
    for k,v in pairs(G.E_MANAGER.queues or {}) do 
        if k ~= 'base' then 
            otherSize = otherSize + #v
        end
    end
    if otherSize ~= 0 then
        love.graphics.print(string.format("Current FPS: %d\nBase event queue: %d\nOther event queues: %d\nMoveables: %d\nGarbage collector: %s", fps, #(G.E_MANAGER.queues and G.E_MANAGER.queues.base or {}), otherSize, #G.MOVEABLES, math.floor(collectgarbage("count"))), 10, 10)
    else
        love.graphics.print(string.format("Current FPS: %d\nBase event queue: %d\nMoveables: %d\nGarbage collector: %s", fps, #(G.E_MANAGER.queues and G.E_MANAGER.queues.base or {}), #G.MOVEABLES, math.floor(collectgarbage("count"))), 10, 10)
    end
end
'''

[unreal stag]

what the hell is this. i feel like im reading enchanting table

[solemn mason]

Well that's odd.

[latent crescent]

Its a "patch"

[solemn mason]

UnStable started acting unstable.

[flat crow]

|| a ||

[latent crescent]

We're selecting part of code from vanilla, and adjusting it depends on our needs

[solemn mason]

Shark.

[latent crescent]

In this case - instead of just displaying FPS we added more debug info such as UI elements count, event queue size, and memory usage

[exotic tree]

I'm not even getting to the point of displaying this

[latent crescent]

your game cant even load?

[exotic tree]

Nope

[latent crescent]

I think it's a rare case where you're cooked

[buoyant kestrel]

clearly the solution is to garbage collect like a maniac

[exotic tree]

For reference, here's three loads in a row

[buoyant kestrel]

surely that ram isn't being used

[exotic tree]

The third one fails inexplicably

[latent crescent]

[buoyant kestrel]

that is so weird wtf

is this even resource limit related

[latent crescent]

70k memory in main menu is wild

[buoyant kestrel]

oh wait yeah

what

[exotic tree]

Chances are, that's the pre-cached palette tables

I'm gonna revert some changes I made previously and do more math later when palettes are applied

That said, this has pretty bad implications for doing this at any reasonable scale with more mods

[latent crescent]

also consider using shared sprites if possible

to reduce memory usage

[exotic tree]

I am. All my atlases are combined

[latent crescent]

If possible of course

[exotic tree]

The only reason I had to split them up this time was for the way palette sets work

[latent crescent]

Not this one, I mean did you seen how stickers implemented?

[exotic tree]

The thing is, this sytem has nothing to do with actual rendering or drawing sprites

[latent crescent]

You have 1 sprite object stored in memory and in every draw call it sets draw_major and draws sticker, and goes to next

[exotic tree]

I don't think this is crashing when even a single draw call has occurred

[latent crescent]

you're not seen libs, that's a place where magic happens

I have 0 clue what spells a casted in them, but they works somehow

Like wtf is even this

[buoyant kestrel]

c of course

[exotic tree]

Let me just get rid of the gradient calculation entirely and

Uh oh

75000 -> 15000

[buoyant kestrel]

well

problem solved 👍

[latent crescent]

[versed bison]

*the evil john balatro plus appears

[dusty token]

magic

[latent crescent]

damn

magic sucks

Because I cant understand it

[exotic tree]

Hmm no it's still crashing sometimes despite that

Oughhhhhhh

This is hilarious but also saddening

[unreal stag]

dear god did i actually start this mayhem

[latent crescent]

not really

[exotic tree]

If I can get it to load I'm curious if part of the issue is double sprite scaling

Since it's not currently doing any specific thing to account for it, it's just outright doubling the sprites

[flat crow]

is that john balatro

[gloomy mural]

random idea that i will not edit because i will be at school soon

[exotic tree]

Nope pixel art smoothing is OFF

that's terrifying

[latent crescent]

this price is so ass

[main path]

hmmm

[unreal stag]

yes i am the real john balatro and i made Poker itself

[latent crescent]

What is this info button tho

[flat crow]

Ax_cry

[latent crescent]

There's jonh balatro as a jonkler somewhere

in cryptoposting maybe?

[flat crow]

😐

[rustic helm]

i was going to add that to MY mod as a crossmod joker but balatro plus is not released yet, as far i know

[main path]

its kinda weird
Originally, i had the ui for the enchantment infotips appear when hovering over the deck
But no matter where I put the UI, it would overlap with something in an ugly manner
Because hovering over the deck also shows a summary of the remaining cards in deck in the middle of the screen
So i decided to make it so that when hovering over the info button (which is not in a place such that hovering over the button counts as hovering over deck), the deck enchantment infotips show up

[balmy lily]

devourer of croutons tomorrow

[flat crow]

it tells you about the fitness gram pacer test

[versed bison]

oh god not the pacer test

[latent crescent]

but this button placed on a place where skip tags should be no?

[main path]

...
ah shit ur right
time to relocate the button

[latent crescent]

no comments

time to code new interactive blinds I guess

[rustic helm]

@flat crow

[exotic tree]

So yeah before adding these additional atlases, I seem to be able to get a consistent load

However, this is still resources in use

[solemn mason]

Good night.

[balmy lily]

joker which permanently deletes another from the save file until you reset it

[latent crescent]

from hotpot

idk how its called, it's like a plant in a box

[buoyant kestrel]

numberslop joker that has a 1 in 15 chance of deleting itself from the code of the mod and marking the save file and the game directory so that the joker is immediately deleted again if you reinstall the mod

and maybe registry if love2d can touch that

which i am unsure of

[exotic tree]

Basically I now just have to decide what I can most effectively offload to palette calculation on the CPU, since pre-caching a lot of this information is now unfeasible

But it's also possible it's not just correctly freeing some of the resources used to calculate the gradients at runtime since it doesn't need to keep those

I don't think is manual GC call for my ffi pointers is working as intended

[dusty token]

how do you create the v

love.data.newByteData?

[exotic tree]

That's the imagedata stored in SMODS.Atlas

Or, rather, a copy of it

[dusty token]

don't ffi.gc it, it gcs itself when no longer used

[exotic tree]

Mmm, okay

[round ore]

Is it normal to crash while playing cryptid mod?

[dusty token]

and make sure to keep the reference to the bytedata

[exotic tree]

Why specifically? I thought it had to be set to nil to be garbage collected?

[round ore]

Because i keep crashing

[exotic tree]

Regardless, I'm not seeing any meaningful change in the readout of the garbage collector

[woven crag]

it crashes on latest steamodded

[dusty token]

what i meant is that if the bytedata is no longer reachable, assume it is already gced and the created pointer must no longer be used

[dusty token]

you could try running balatro from cmd, and when it crashed try echo %errorlevel%

[exotic tree]

Originally I was storing the index, and then the calculated x and y coordinates for each pixel

Cutting it back down to the single pixel index as I had originally does cut down the GC by about 5x

[ionic crystal]

hi chat

[ionic crystal]

no vro what is that 😭

[exotic tree]

Which I'm fairly certain just means an incorrect command

[dusty token]

yeah

[plush hound]

fixed it

[umbral pilot]

looks great

[dusty token]

eatlooks gr

[limber oak]

sunhere comes the

[exotic tree]

Do you know how to get a correct result from this?

[dusty token]

maybe try Balatro.exe

[exotic tree]

No I mean I did that

I ran it from cmd, but the echo command seemingly isn't giving me a meaningful error code

[ionic crystal]

nd it nowok i can vaguely understa

[exotic tree]

Even after the crash

[dusty token]

hmm weird

[pastel surge]

well
i need legendary jokers

who wants to be in my mod

[exotic tree]

I wonder if using an FFI cast to a c structure would actually help maintain the memory. Because I assume (though I don't know for sure) that Lua tables are inherently gonna be less efficient due to the abstraction

[rich badge]

someun help this is happening for like all my mods, its saying they all call table values related to boosters I think? Im very new to modding also sorry if this is wrong place to post crashes

[pastel surge]

remove mods until it fixes

once you find the problem mod, update it if possible

[rich badge]

I tried that but these are all the msot recent versions, but I can keep removing

thx

[silk sphinx]

i have a few but theyre not great

[pastel surge]

no prob

[pastel surge]

im intrested

[silk sphinx]

uhh

let me find them

this

this

this

this

this

thats all of them

[bronze crown]

what is the most needed mod to add to balatro, I got clowned in the multiplayer chat for talking about the mod manager

[pastel surge]

for content or for QoL

[bronze crown]

QoL for now. Im not too experienced I beat a few decks but no where ready for pvp

[buoyant kestrel]

if this channel was more active you would be getting clowned here too

[bronze crown]

lol I got into the game cuz of bean I didnt know much better

blame it on my ignorance

[pastel surge]

JokerDisplay is the best one, but I also recommend Handy, Galdur, Flower Pot and tailsman
tailsman is banned in multiplayer i think tho

[bronze crown]

im gonna stay away from everything banned in mp bc I may delve into it one day once I know what im doing

[clear barn]

I just loaded Cryptid, and apparently I have nothing unlocked. Is that normal or did I lose all my progress in Vanilla Balatro 💀

[rustic helm]

why

[rustic helm]

it creates a new profile (M1 instead of P1)

[clear barn]

Oh okay ty

[pastel surge]

imma check brb

[buoyant kestrel]

talisman completely changes how numbers are stored and as such i imagine stupid bugs from attempting to transfer score over will ensue

(since it is under a completely different format)

[bronze crown]

what does jokerdisplay do?

[buoyant kestrel]

and the person on the other side may not have it, causing giant fuck off bug

[silk sphinx]

@pastel surge how do you like those

[pastel surge]

"In general, any mods that increase game speed above 4x (Ex. GameSpeed, Nopeus, Saturn, Talisman)"

[rustic helm]

display what the jokers are doing / are going to do

[pastel surge]

they're good

[buoyant kestrel]

lmao

[pastel surge]

displays what jokers do
example:

[bronze crown]

where is the safest place to find these mods and how does one add them to balatro

is there a video I can go off of

[pastel surge]

the offical githubs for the mod and go to steammodded for a installation tutorial

for a video format

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfxnwHO134
https://youtu.be/JG3jw0oqRZo?si=XI0Pr_sM3erOtNgl

[rustic helm]

Github
#1209506514763522108
Balatro Modding Wiki

[bronze crown]

is the mod manager that bad?

[buoyant kestrel]

its not needed at all and it causes various issues you just wouldn't get otherwise

[dusty token]

ok apparently cmd doesnt wait for balatro so need to use start /w Balatro.exe

idk if the issue has been resolved yet

[limber oak]

for all the visual learners out there :D

[pastel surge]

im just a chill guy

[stark saddle]

i should not be allowed to mod textures

[pastel surge]

what the peak

[stark saddle]

they truly are stone cards

[exotic tree]

Hmm, even cutting down the pre-cached information is resulting in still crashing on load

[exotic tree]

Oh! Thanks. Sorry it hasn't been resolved yet

[dusty token]

oh yeah thats the error code

so use after free happened somewhere

[exotic tree]

Use after free?

[exotic tree]

I removed all my own manual GC calls

I realize I'm probably asking a lot, but would you be willing to look through this to help me diagnose the issue?

[dusty token]

sure

[exotic tree]

https://github.com/Kekulism/Arrow/pull/5/files

[dusty token]

though mostly i hunt bugs with trying to replicate

[dusty token]

ill try this one

[exotic tree]

This is the specific commit that's causing this crash. The primary change was splitting this atlas into four separate ones, and otherwise there's not a lot in this commit that actually changes the logic of how this system works

Otherwise, this is the file where all the main logic happens: https://github.com/Kekulism/Arrow/blob/main/api/colors.lua

And I've narrowed it down to the setup_palettes() function at least

if I remove the one call to it on the splash screen, it passes without any issues

[unreal stag]

yo crust since you're still here, how do i import that bignum library you earlier sent me?

[dusty token]

copy the file and require it

like if you put it in bignum.lua then use it with local Big = require("bignum")

[unreal stag]

like the whole folder?

im new to this bro please help me

[dusty token]

the init.lua file works

or you can copy the whole folder if you want to

[unreal stag]

so i copy the 'lua-big-number-0.3.1' folder and paste it where?

in my game's files?

[dusty token]

yeah

[exotic tree]

Wait a minute...

Based on the error code suggesting crashes due to system permissions, it is basically just suggesting it doesn't have read/write permissions for the working directory??

[unreal stag]

and what require function do i write then?

[dusty token]

name the folder bignum and write require("bignum")

[unreal stag]

well so it works

and the rest ill do myself

[dusty token]

i managed to capture the trace before it crashed

ill keep going from here

[exotic tree]

Oh! Yeah, I could never get a trace at all

[dim silo]

thoughts on these 10 joker ideas? trying for a vanilla feel

[latent crescent]

depends on what you didi but so far looks like its wrong place

[little snow]

alright. thanks

[exotic tree]

I originally had a manual call to stop automatic garbage collection during this collect_image_data function, since you suggested it's trying to access deallocated memory?

But readding those doesn't solve it

[dusty token]

ok so it wasnt that, but rather the index tries to access beyond whats allocated

[exotic tree]

beyond what's allocated?

[dusty token]

you can try adding this here

if true_idx + 3 > image_data:getSize() then error(string.format("bad access index %d on max %d", true_idx+3, image_data:getSize())) end

[exotic tree]

So the FFI pointer is incorrectly allocating for the image data maybe?

[bronze crown]

i got the lovely injector set up and smods set up and confirmed they work. What are some QOL mods I can install that wont get me in trouble with multiplayer

[latent crescent]

Go to MP server and you'll find document with all allowed mods

[dusty token]

basically, you can't access memory outside the program. when using ffi, it doesn't have memory protection, so it crashes instead of returning nil

sorry if it got too technical 😅

[exotic tree]

No I do get the specifics even if I'm not used to low level programming

But also.... that allocation is for 6175 pixels at most (or somewhere close to that, because I'm sure it also stores some format data)

A single one of these atlases is about 107k pixels

It's just outright not allocating anywhere close for some reason....?

And it's never failed on any of my other atlases or the original combined one even if it's notably larger

Is there some weird FFI thing for files that have a lot of transparency...?

[latent crescent]

oh my god bruh

[exotic tree]

What about the chosen triangle

[latent crescent]

I want use it in other place

I thought it was UI element

[exotic tree]

Nope

[latent crescent]

Not manually rendered thing

[exotic tree]

It's drawn directly

I've actually done a bunch of similar things to this

If you need a reference

[latent crescent]

this sucks

I'll hold this arrow then, its not that important anyway

[latent crescent]

I'll just make a sprite for triangle and use it

Much easier for me

[exotic tree]

Wait.... it's crashing on a completely unrelated atlas?

[unreal stag]

so theres an error that keeps popping up when i try to love.graphics.print(tostring(Notations.Standard(number))) that says bignum/init.lua:88: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value)

[exotic tree]

And yeah that's the exact image size of the pointer

Huh????

Okay well thank you very much Crust you've helped me immensely already

[dusty token]

👍 im still trying to figure out

yw

[dusty token]

can you show the code?

[exotic tree]

wait'

hold on

[latent crescent]

you probably need to wrap a number in Big:new(number) but yea show the code

[unreal stag]

dw the love.graphics is in the love.draw function

[exotic tree]

So something about this index calculation here is ending up circumstantially wrong

[dusty token]

yeah

[exotic tree]

I did recently add those multipliers for texture size based on the texture scaling setting, but removing those doesn't change it seemingly

[dusty token]

here's my trace. the object dump is in there too if you want to look around

[exotic tree]

Okay huh yeah the index is way too big

I guess the simplest solution is maybe the px and py for the image atlas are wrong?

[ember flicker]

how does SMODS.DeckSkin work? does it override the default deck skin or does it add itself the skin/FoJ list?
because it seems like it has overwritten every skin with the default ones

[exotic tree]

But that doesn't explain why sometimes it would work and other times not

[unreal stag]

i did wrap the number in Big:new()

[dusty token]

the values was
atlas.py 95
G.SETTINGS.GRAPHICS.texture_scaling 2
pos.y 3
color_width 9088
multiply those all and the index is out of bound

this is from (atlas.py * G.SETTINGS.GRAPHICS.texture_scaling * pos.y) * color_width + ...

[flat crow]

|| ||

[leaden vector]

Egg

[unreal stag]

i just dont have any idea why it wont just print out

[buoyant kestrel]

-# (Well, there is a man here. He offered you something.)

[exotic tree]

Says the pos is correct, the atlas is correct....

The main thing I can point out is that I think this is the first atlas it's trying to load that is only a single sprite per atlas

[latent crescent]

are you doung any math operations with number?

[unreal stag]

yea

[latent crescent]

Specifically it crashes on multiplication

[unreal stag]

oup

yup

[latent crescent]

Show what exactly youre doing

[ember flicker]

why does this happen GarfSob

[unreal stag]

multiplication

[keen knoll]

are you loading the file

[ember flicker]

lovely is saying its skipping it

[latent crescent]

if you're doing smth like number * 3 then it should be fine

[ember flicker]

idk how it can simultaneously not load the file and overwrite all friends of jimbo skins

[keen knoll]

oh youre also supposed to call atlas directly

[exotic tree]

WAIT

[latent crescent]

If number.mul(3) then it's wrong, you need to do number:mul(3) instead

[keen knoll]

and not assign it to a var

[exotic tree]

is this really just an issue with this not being correctly scaled to 2x...?

[ember flicker]

that wasn't on the template damn

[unreal stag]

i know this is rookie code i began coding like 9 days ago

[keen knoll]

just put the atlas as a string

[ember flicker]

ok so what about the atlas = in the palettes

[latent crescent]

you have too much end tho

[unreal stag]

wait lmao

i was rewriting my code to make it more readable lol

yeah okay fixed that

[keen knoll]

atlas = "LBPHC"

[unreal stag]

but i know this cant be the main issue

[keen knoll]

and LBPLC

[ember flicker]

thank u

[keen knoll]

yea

[dusty token]

try doing it verbosely, the bignum library doesnt support automatic number to bignum conversion for math operations

[keen knoll]

uhh also how is your deck layed out

atlad

atlas

[ember flicker]

i'll just post it here

[latent crescent]

is it?

[latent crescent]

Is this like feature exclusive to talisman some sort?

[exotic tree]

WAIT

I FIGURED IT OUT

[keen knoll]

uhh you need to set atlasStyle

[dusty token]

talisman has some modifications

[dusty token]

Big.__mul = Big.mul
---@param b Big

[keen knoll]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/

[ember flicker]

as in this?

[keen knoll]

yea

[unreal stag]

so like scrap:mul(3) ?

[keen knoll]

uhh check the possible options there

[dusty token]

scrap:mul(Big:new(3))

[exotic tree]

Okay @dusty token I figured it out

[latent crescent]

then why it works for power tho

[dusty token]

nice

[ember flicker]

should i put the path to assets/2x/??

[dusty token]

pow accepts number ---@param pow number

[latent crescent]

what a library omg

[dusty token]

😭

[exotic tree]

Basically, because the single atlases now only have effective y sprite positions of 0, all of the playing cards like the 6 of Spades here that it crashes on are trying to access pixels way out of bounds

I'll need to add some proper error checking for it

However, trying to adjust these is annoying

[keen knoll]

no it resolves the path based on if the user has pixel smoothing on

[dusty token]

gl on fixing it 👍 dealing with indexes are hard sometimes

[exotic tree]

I mean it makes sense now that I've seen it esp since I'm working with low level data, I'm just kinda surprised ive never run into this before?

[ember flicker]

i put a legacy header and this printed out

[dusty token]

update your smods

[latent crescent]

it's like ancient or smth

[dusty token]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/1.0.0-beta-1224a.zip

[ember flicker]

fuck i think i'll just stop using r2modman all together

[dusty token]

smods is so ancient on there

[buoyant kestrel]

the balatro world website is giving freedom motif

[unreal stag]

when i try to run the project love returns an error on this exact line
is the line above and line below the same thing? or am i butchering some syntax?

[buoyant kestrel]

i see

you have to bignum everything

you can't :pow normal numbers like that

[unreal stag]

have i already bignummed everything or am i still missing something?

[buoyant kestrel]

the number 3

[latent crescent]

you probably need to make it like ```lua
scrap = scrap:add(Big:new(3 ^ (space[i].tier - 1) * 3))

[buoyant kestrel]

or that yeah

:pow isn't a function on normal numbers

[latent crescent]

That's assuming space[i].tier is not bignum

[unreal stag]

yup

its not a bignum

[latent crescent]

You need convert to bignumb parts which actually interact with bignums

[ember flicker]

ok now the mod loads, but it crashed when i tried selecting the skin

[latent crescent]

Outside of that you can use old math

[dusty token]

send the crashlog

[exotic tree]

colors_per_unit = math.min(image_data:getSize(), width_per_unit * atlas.py) for now I'll just cap the colors at the image's size otherwise if I happen to do this kind of thing again so I can at least see that it's doing weird things to the atlas

[exotic tree]

rather than crashing

[unreal stag]

if i want to replace the * 3 with a number variable "scrapboost" do i put a big:new around it too

[latent crescent]

depends is it a bignum

[unreal stag]

well it is a bignum

so what do i do

[latent crescent]

scrap = scrap:add(Big:new(3 ^ (space[i].tier - 1)):mul(scrapboost))

[unreal stag]

oki i fixed it

[latent crescent]

Or, if simplify

local factor = 3 ^ (space[i].tier - 1)
scrap = scrap:add(Big:new(factor):mul(scrapboost))

[unreal stag]

so the general thing im getting from bignum is:
if a number is a Big:new(), then i use the :add(), :mul(), :pow() etc. functions
if a number isn't a Big:new(), then i use normal lua arithmetic
am i correct?

[latent crescent]

Indeed

[unreal stag]

okay now i know so much more

thanks dude

[dusty token]

try forwarding to #💻・modding-dev

[latent crescent]

In Balatro tho this barries is mostly removed so you can do math operations with bignum and numbers

With one exception with causes a ton of problems

[unreal stag]

also what kind of number system did localthunk use for balatro?
because its not bignum, but its also not the 64bit integer limit lua gives us

[dim silo]

what's an acceptable ammount of jokers for a mod?

[latent crescent]

it's default lua number double floating point

[buoyant kestrel]

its just stock love2d lmao

[dusty token]

its the same as you get

1e308 limit

[latent crescent]

score capped in e308

[keen knoll]

arabic

[dusty token]

you might be thinking of bit integers

[unreal stag]

wait so you're telling me love2d had an increased limit already?

[latent crescent]

no

[unreal stag]

in terms of e308

not the bignum ee308

[latent crescent]

it's double floating point

[dusty token]

......yeah

thats how every double precision works, it limits at e308

[wanton rapids]

you wouldn't be able to have 0.5 Mult if it was an integer anyways

[latent crescent]

In JS Number.MAX_VALUE have same value of e308

It's decent number but for incremental numberslop is definitely not enough

And depends on your ambitions bignum may be not enough too

[storm forum]

Unless you take the Doom route with FUs.

[daring sluice]

teeeeechnically

[dusty token]

i saw your talisman pr

[daring sluice]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman/pull/141

i wanted you to take a look at it

i never asked for some reason

but do you have thoughts

[dusty token]

who?

[daring sluice]

you

[limber oak]

1.8e308 going hard

you can still score like 1.6e308 and not get naneinf

[latent crescent]

1.78

[dusty token]

i have no thoughts

[limber oak]

round up to 1.8

[daring sluice]

head empty

[dusty token]

yeah

[daring sluice]

is there any way you can see this being like a bad thing or having bugs or regressions or things

[dusty token]

maybe other than "but why though"

[limber oak]

look like we both wrong

[daring sluice]

being able to treat numbers as bignumbers can be handy

[buoyant kestrel]

i have seen

[limber oak]

1.79 rounds up to 1.8

[buoyant kestrel]

its really funny that you can do that actually

[dusty token]

hmm

[daring sluice]

it's nice to be able to call like, variable:pow(10) even if you're not sure whether variable is a big

[plush hound]

alot of math nerds in here

[latent crescent]

indeed

[daring sluice]

also stuff like variable:max(other)

[latent crescent]

remember, math is fun

[daring sluice]

also, it could potentially enable faster math because you wouldn't always need to return a big from functions on Big

since numbers can be treated as bigs in every way

but i didn't implement that

[azure dagger]

"Unexpected error: attempt to compare number with table"

🔁 translating 🔁

"Talisman can't to the thing it's designed to do"

[buoyant kestrel]

it ain't actually

it just makes a bigger number

it just would be convenient if the bigger number was interoperable with the smaller one

[daring sluice]

a problem that has already been solved

[flat crow]

can i eat one of your guys table i ran out

[buoyant kestrel]

amulet

[dusty token]

it can be great, i guess

idk, head is still empty 😭

[daring sluice]

now that i think about it that could make a couple things incorrect

[dusty token]

only the mul method works though

(with amulet, idk with talisman)

[daring sluice]

huh

all worked fine for me

it would need to run the __index on the number when doing .array

idk if amulet does weird stuff

[buoyant kestrel]

me too (i'm currently screwing around with it)

[dusty token]

oh right

it needs another property asize

[rain orbit]

Is it just me or does buskin look like sock is giving him some straight teeth

[light flame]

im a complete noob at this but id figure id come here

Im trying to add a custom joker through the source code that basically acts as a opposite to oops all sixes, so that it halves all probabilities.

do I have to manually go through every listed probability and edit them or am I being stupid

[ivory sinew]

Nah, check Entropy's code @light flame (entropy on modded balatro wiki)

SMODS has a context for probabilities where you can double the denominator, thus halving all probabilities. it's easy as hell

[exotic belfry]

I think it’s a bit different in this case since they’re adding thru source code interestingly

[light flame]

Yes like I said complete noob

[dusty token]

theres G.GAME.probabilities.normal

multiply it by 2 to double probs, or 0.5 to halven

[ivory sinew]

Why through the source code...

Can't you just use lua files with SMOD?

[light flame]

im not well-versed with lua and am just learned about SMOD as you tell me about it

ohhh steamodded

[ivory sinew]

Look into SMODs first, VanillaRemade has good examples

Check the structure of the files, how they add the Jokers in.

[hard plank]

i think originally this was by n

[exotic belfry]

What is this fork?

[dusty token]

example for oops is in here https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua#L3845

[ionic crystal]

god why are making seal localizations so damn CONFUSING

[light flame]

thanks for the help guys

ill try and overclock my pea brain into understanding

[exotic belfry]

I highly recommend this thread since you’re starting out #1349064230825103441 message

[hard plank]

@novel heron's fork idk what they are for

[light flame]

thank you

[keen knoll]

https://bsky.app/profile/soilneutralizer.bsky.social/post/3mb5pa45vv22n meirl

søil🪨 (@soilneutralizer.bsky.social)

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[azure dagger]

vencord my beloved

[keen knoll]

wait i thought that said oops

[ivory sinew]

It's not that hard once you read the code and learn how to navigate the files

[keen knoll]

lua is an ez language

[ivory sinew]

It just takes a few weeks/months to get the hang of it. I started off knowing nothing and struggling to make a single Joker, now I'm making some of the weirdest Jokers ever

[daring sluice]

works now for amulet?

[dusty token]

i think it'll be a easy fix

make asize return 1

[balmy lily]

evil spotify or kung fu man

[plush hound]

SMODS.pseudorandom_probability or good career

[hard plank]

at this point I'm gonna stop learning how to code and practice black magic

[balmy lily]

oh shoot

i didnt know KFM hit modding chat shelves already

[dusty token]

ok nvm i need to also override get_array

i guess ill j add self = Big.ensureBig(self)

but later

[light flame]

do you have a certain software that you code inside of? I code minecraft skript and I use a software for that so I doubt balatro doesnt have something similar

[ivory sinew]

Kate (Steam Deck, Linux) and Visual Studio Code (Windows)

[ionic crystal]

chat should i highlight smth else in this

[light flame]

I dont think so, maybe retriggers?

[violet venture]

Knight noises

[light flame]

what the fuck am I looking at

[ionic crystal]

sure

[ionic crystal]

is that blind reskins

[violet venture]

yup, Project Moon reskins

[ionic crystal]

-# is the boss blind just the fish or smth 💀

[ionic crystal]

from what i can see it's the fish or smth

oh

the eye 😭

my opp

wonder what the plant is reskinned into

[light flame]

the encounter of doom and despair

[violet venture]

And its' own cards

With reskins on jokers

[ionic crystal]

ah it's just ramen

[light flame]

oh I thought those were actual custom jokers

reskins are cool

[ionic crystal]

-# if it's xmult why is it NOT at the end 😭

-# unless everything ELSE is xmult

[light flame]

yea that is a bit weird

[violet venture]

Aiko

[light flame]

whats with the mc stuff:?

ah

[obsidian delta]

https://youtu.be/H-lZEf9cRvQ?si=pOmmvL6k9r7tJJDl

[light flame]

this reminds me of that one anime girl everyone was going crazy about

started with a T

TETO

[violet venture]

fuck you

[keen knoll]

oh so its beta arm

[violet venture]

Lobotomy Corporation Mod (a seperate mod)

[ionic crystal]

ok that is not the arm

[scarlet swan]

wip

[keen knoll]

mitosis is scary

[plush hound]

alright time to work on this

[haughty gyro]

me when my sprite sheet is misaligned

[hard plank]

not really

[haughty gyro]

how did they achieve this

wait

[ionic crystal]

really proud of this effect

[haughty gyro]

no they did that to the sprites intentionally

[keen knoll]

its worded awkwardly

[plush hound]

took you long enough

😭

[haughty gyro]

my b

[haughty gyro]

I'm tired

[plush hound]

it is that way

[ionic crystal]

what

[keen knoll]

gives +11 mult for each hand size
below or above 6
(currently +22)

[scarlet swan]

oh boy when my update comes out im gonna make compat for this gimmick LOL

[haughty gyro]

it took me a second to realize that those sprites were intentionally edited to look like that

[ionic crystal]

no it's fixed like that

5 = +11 mult
4 = +22 mult
and so on...

[keen knoll]

oh wait PLAYED hand

[ionic crystal]

ye

[scarlet swan]

thats gains, not gives

[ionic crystal]

it's fixed so it does not scale

[keen knoll]

i said gives

[ionic crystal]

best you can do with it is high card with +55 mult

[haughty gyro]

I think gives would be correct

[keen knoll]

ok hang on

gives +11 mult for each card in played hand below or above 6

[haughty gyro]

or above 😳

those are some big hands

[keen knoll]

unlimited deck

[haughty gyro]

shoutout to 11 * abs(6-x)

[keen knoll]

gives +11 mult for each card below or above a 6 card hand

[haughty gyro]

also is this played hand size or scored hand size

[keen knoll]

i assume played

[haughty gyro]

oh yeah it does say played

[ionic crystal]

ah yes balancing

[haughty gyro]

interesting effect

[ionic crystal]

-# yes it is at X0.5 :walcomebuck:

[keen knoll]

hm

[haughty gyro]

what does it start at

[ionic crystal]

any suggestions to the localization

[ionic crystal]

-# that

-# it starts at X0.5

[keen knoll]

imo it should be "this card has no rank and suit, but always scores0

[haughty gyro]

by "always" does this also score from the deck

[keen knoll]

how does stone card word it actually

[ionic crystal]

it's a seal tho, so it just nullifies the card's rank and suit

[keen knoll]

i assume its like how stone card works

[ionic crystal]

yep

[haughty gyro]

ah

[ionic crystal]

"{C:chips}+#1#{} Chips",
"no rank or suit",

[digital notch]

photochad + paredolia goes crazy with this

[keen knoll]

ok hm

[ionic crystal]

cant wait to showcase my personal favorite (the water)

[keen knoll]

"seal nullifies rank and suit"
"always scores"

[haughty gyro]

imagine a card that has an effect whether you play it, hold it in your hand, or even haven't drawn it yet

that would be silly

[digital notch]

I think its been done before

[keen knoll]

so wait if i hanging chad this will it give X0.5 then X0.75

[violet venture]

CASH MONE

[ionic crystal]

it's after scoring

[digital notch]

I dont remember the mod name but theres one thats basically a juiced up steel card that always activates no matter where it is

[keen knoll]

evil :(

[ionic crystal]

so you gain it after all cards are scored

[ionic crystal]

balancing :walcomebuck:

[keen knoll]

im totally gonna death/cryptid this AFTER its scaled lol

[ionic crystal]

lmaoer

[rain orbit]

Woke joker
X1.5 mult for each unique suit scored, flushes can't be played because that's racist

[keen knoll]

woker

[buoyant kestrel]

woker

[rain orbit]

🔥

Anti-monoethnic woker

[rain orbit]

They HATE blackboard

[buoyant kestrel]

why so queerious

[rain orbit]

Wait no

[haughty gyro]

see if I made a woker I'd say you can't play straights

[keen knoll]

me installing the uhhh 60 suits mod

[rain orbit]

They love blackboard

But hate every whiteboard

[rain orbit]

No that's just mha, not being able to play flushes is more accurate

[exotic tree]

#HighContrastBlackboard

[ionic crystal]

ah yes space joker seal

[haughty gyro]

yeah where is blackboard for red suits

[buoyant kestrel]

instead it starts at X0 lmao

[rain orbit]

My joker academia
Can't play straights, no positive effect

If you play a straight you lose the run

[ionic crystal]

old pillar but joker

[buoyant kestrel]

My Joker Academia:
Straights instead count as Flushes

[ionic crystal]

-# nvm it's worse

[haughty gyro]

I'm sorry I refuse to watch mha

[buoyant kestrel]

for a version you could want ever

[ionic crystal]

smae

[rain orbit]

How does heterosexuality connect to monoethnicity

idolCult

[buoyant kestrel]

pride

[exotic tree]

Mmm I'm definitely having trouble with the palette for gluttonous joker I think

[rain orbit]

Kinda weird that people just mutually agree that the flush is the most homosexual poker hand ever

[buoyant kestrel]

its the opposite of straight

[rain orbit]

No it ain't

[haughty gyro]

valid based recolor for high contrast

[keen knoll]

flash

[exotic tree]

it's all part of my master plan

[buoyant kestrel]

straight: five ordered (and different) ranks
flush: five of the same suit

[buoyant kestrel]

literal opposites

[keen knoll]

how do u explain straight flush

[buoyant kestrel]

bisexual

[rain orbit]

The opposite of a straight would be like, random ranks with no correlation

[buoyant kestrel]

obviously

[keen knoll]

clusterfk

[rain orbit]

[haughty gyro]

I made a custom high contrast spade suit once upon a time

[granite forum]

rin penrose

[haughty gyro]

John VTuber

[rain orbit]

Jack looks like a fall guys guy

[ionic crystal]

my personal favorite

[haughty gyro]

it's the skrunkly

[keen knoll]

burgler

[rain orbit]

The crinkly??!?!?!!?

[ionic crystal]

what

[granite forum]

burgmelar

[exotic tree]

But now I've completely recreated the High Contrast Palettes, and now it's time for, uhh, all the rest of it

[ionic crystal]

it's not burglar

you only lose 1 discard

[rain orbit]

idolCult

[exotic tree]

Perhaps deciding to make Flower Pot use the Diamond palette was an odd choice

However!

[rain orbit]

Bizarro flower pot

[haughty gyro]

blue diamonds is disorienting

[buoyant kestrel]

burglar but its just the needle

[exotic tree]

Cardsauce has blue diamonds, I don't make the rules

[rain orbit]

Seven university

[keen knoll]

most diamonds are blue

[keen knoll]

so does inscryption

[rain orbit]

Diamonds are clear

[haughty gyro]

I'm just used to red/yellow diamond high contrast

[keen knoll]

but... but minecraft

[haughty gyro]

only ones without impurities

minerals be mineraling

[keen knoll]

mine rail

[ionic crystal]

blue diamonds...

oh hey pocket snek

[haughty gyro]

ok the real reason I don't like this is because the clubs were also a shade of blue

[ionic crystal]

why not green

[haughty gyro]

was just about to suggest that lol

[rain orbit]

If you put the serpent's icon in the greek alphabet I wouldn't question it being there

[haughty gyro]

I feel like I've seen a green clubs mod before somewhere too

[keen knoll]

what if this is discarded or played

[haughty gyro]

might have been a vocaloid deck reskin

[ionic crystal]

you dont draw 3 cards anymore duh

[lilac brook]

what is this

[exotic tree]

Gang your suggestions are irrelevant here, Cardsauce already has Green clubs

[rain orbit]

Crash screen

[exotic tree]

I was showing you the default high contrast vanilla palette for the Clubs and then the cardsauce palette for the diamonds

[keen knoll]

grubs

[haughty gyro]

good

[lilac brook]

wdym a bad lovely patch has resulted in this crash?? how do i fix it?

[rain orbit]

Delete system 32

[haughty gyro]

replace the bad lovely patch with a good one

[keen knoll]

be lovelier

[lilac brook]

how do i update my lovely????????

[lilac brook]

i want a valid solution 😭

[rain orbit]

catstare~1

[lilac brook]

please 😭

[exotic tree]

That said I do have to actively finish the procedural implementation of the Cardsauce Clubs and Spades

[ionic crystal]

chat i need help coming up for a localization for this effect
play this card this ante, then the next time it scores this ante, X5 mult, resets after activation/ante up

[haughty gyro]

I think it saw that the line of the crash was a target of a lovely patch? that is my best guess. So if you can track down which patch edited that line

[haughty gyro]

this is acceptable

[lilac brook]

?????????????

[haughty gyro]

because they are all different colors

[haughty gyro]

idk how to fix this without looking at the dump files and trying to isolate which mod caused this

[lilac brook]

i install stocking stuffer and now it's broken

[haughty gyro]

lovely patches search to match a pattern in the original game files, and then either replace the line with custom code, or insert something before or after it

the error log tells you which file the syntax error is in, so you could look at the lovely file in the mod to see which patch targets that file

[plush hound]

also hello sky

[haughty gyro]

it may also just be an error in the mod, or colliding with a different mod you have installed

[haughty gyro]

hello!

[lilac brook]

i have handy and stocking stuffer v1.0.2

thats it

man i play mods not make them

[haughty gyro]

-# I make mods not play them (and I hardly do that anymore)

yeah so some patch broke a function

[lilac brook]

so what do i do

install another lovely???

[haughty gyro]

so the route I was going would require fixing the patch yourself in the .toml

that's kind of the only way to fix the crash aside from uninstalling the mod

unless someone else knows a better way

[lilac brook]

im so confused..

[haughty gyro]

so when you set up mods for balatro, you had to install both smods and lovely, correct?

[rain orbit]

Delete lovely, download balatro mod manager, then download lovely from there

It's the most straightforward way I can think of

[haughty gyro]

it appears I am behind the times, I do not use the mod manager lol

well, I uploaded my mod to it but I don't use it to download mods

[rain orbit]

All this jargon about injectors or whatnot people don't understand, all they know is that they need it to play a lot of mods

[haughty gyro]

fair

[rain orbit]

Outside of that they couldn't care less about it, so downloading and updating it at the click of a button is the best way to go about it

[haughty gyro]

my coding brain trying to figure out how to fix the code rather than just fresh install 💀 I may be cooked

[rain orbit]

It's only worth it when there's considerable enough progress to lose

In lovely's case there's nothing to consider worth not losing

[haughty gyro]

fair

[neon urchin]

uuuueeehahhhhhh

im so bored

and low energy

[rain orbit]

Go talk to d

[neon urchin]

and

[rain orbit]

Or f

[neon urchin]

i.. hate d!!!

d and f ganged up to bully me

[haughty gyro]

or g or h?

[neon urchin]

their on my kill list

[rain orbit]

We don't talk about g

[neon urchin]

f is fine but im too shy to talk to them, theyre beyond my league

but d and f, their heads are on the chopping block

[haughty gyro]

are there actually other people here with single letter usernames or is this a bit

[neon urchin]

this is real

[haughty gyro]

I see I see

[neon urchin]

no, I c

youre no c

i c....

[haughty gyro]

good point

you are c

[neon urchin]

at least you see

[rain orbit]

🐎

[neon urchin]

not again....

[haughty gyro]

steel ball run

uma musume

[rain orbit]

🌯

[haughty gyro]

there was a bit like a year ago when someone would react to every message with a horse emoji

idk if it's resurfaced or not

[rain orbit]

🧬

[haughty gyro]

shoutout deoxyribonucleic acid

[azure dagger]

[haughty gyro]

blue prince...

[rain orbit]

🎎

[haughty gyro]

they can't keep getting away with this

speaking the language of the gods [emoji]

[rain orbit]

🪺

[haughty gyro]

🐦

[dapper helm]

🥹

[haughty gyro]

🥀

[dapper helm]

😔

[haughty gyro]

👉 👈

[hard plank]

please

[haughty gyro]

please what

[toxic cloud]

tempting

why not blueprint 😭

[buoyant kestrel]

you need to be bucklemaxxing

[toxic cloud]

I'm ditching Comb Jellyfish anyway

but it's Brainstorm, not Blueprint

[buoyant kestrel]

it copies leftmost, so you can make the buckle leftmost

lmao

[toxic cloud]

Ig

sounds about right

[buoyant kestrel]

surely

[toxic cloud]

I have absolutely no poker hand levels

because that would be detrimental to the current challenge

[stuck mica]

what does this error mean and how can i fix it

[toxic cloud]

[ionic crystal]

reverse idol lmao

[toxic cloud]

Blueprint saves the da- wait, that's not Blueprint

yea, emult is cracked when you stack enough of it

cool SUAS-like glitch with inversion

play all cards before running out of hands and shoot my Egg to the moon

[keen knoll]

hey guys enhancement idea

holepunch card (enhancement)
no rank or suit
always scores
X0 mult
X0 chips
+1 hand
all other played cards are returned to hand```

[ember flicker]

"x0 mult, x0 chips" 😱

[keen knoll]

ok but look at the upsides

[buoyant kestrel]

punch card gaming (i played 5)

(all five are returned to hand)

[keen knoll]

no none of them would

[ember flicker]

time waster

[buoyant kestrel]

all other cards are returned

[keen knoll]

also what is the point

[buoyant kestrel]

nothing says it can't return itself (the enhancement)

[buoyant kestrel]

+5 hand????

s

[ember flicker]

yeah this would be the only good way to play it lol

[keen knoll]

all non holepunch cards

[keen knoll]

well its good for literally every scaling joker

or chance joker

[buoyant kestrel]

also due to how it works

the hand would still score

if you had a +chips and a +mult

you score

[keen knoll]

ok hang on

[buoyant kestrel]

(X0 Chips & Mult is NOT the same thing as hand doesn't provide score)

[ornate bone]

If the role I'm supposed to be playing in the fight with the Roaring Knight is "The Victim" then I'm playing it well.

[toxic cloud]

alr, I gotta say Dinah is a bit too strong, especially with proper support
might have to nerf it to 0.05 or 0.02 instead of 0.1

😭

there goes balancing again

[keen knoll]

holepunch card

no rank, no suit
always scores

X0 Chips and Mult after scoring
+1 hand if played hand contains a Holepunch card
Return all non holepunch cards to hand```

[ember flicker]

you know what would be less struggle