⚙・modding-general

[spiral apex]

which one, ill try running it using Proton

[quartz socket]

I think it was just called “the balatro mod manager”

[spiral apex]

i CANNOT find a single mod manager that likes me soooooo........

[woven crag]

#1413687995378176021?

also this https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Installing-Steamodded-linux because you will need to install lovely for this one

[spiral apex]

how have i not seen that before? thx sooo much!

[quartz socket]

Common Eris W

[woven crag]

im eris

[quartz socket]

Yes

[frigid mica]

if ^^mult = save#, then it's updating the value of ^^mult to be the same as save#, if it's ^^mult = ^^mult + save#, then you're actually adding ^^mult by save#.

besides, i was supposed to change that from a + to a *

[silk geyser]

chat what's the name of the mod where it shows you the mult you have on the current joker's accounting it's effect, and also the mod where you can drag your cursor over cards to select them

[full edge]

JokerDisplay

and Handy

Did a video using those mods go viral recently? I feel like half of the questions the last few days have been specifically those two mods with that phrasing

[hard plank]

aikoshen is updated again

[silk geyser]

no i just remembered seeing it in a vid once and since i was going to add paperback i might aswell add those too

[hard plank]

wtf nihosika

[wicked jasper]

?

[dawn remnant]

ok nvm ill just type out the name

[dusty token]

starts with a table

[wicked jasper]

it's a kinda generic line, it can probably be heard in all sorts of places

sorry

[keen knoll]

hi

why

[silk geyser]

i swear paperback doesnt buff the chance of legendaries appearing

[chilly pine]

guys do you know

[silent thistle]

play FG please i beg the dev team has been screaming into the void for a while now

[wicked jasper]

how

fair

[turbid heart]

yes?

[round ore]

Don't really talk here much, but anyone know if its possible to mod the mobile game version?

[turbid heart]

if ur going to bring it up to someone and tell them ur pissing them off

[tepid nest]

theoretically but it’s basically impossible

[turbid heart]

i think '?' responses are annoying too yeah

they come across as snarky

[round ore]

-# Damn, thanks for the answer and good to know

[turbid heart]

its also not allowed

and bannable

[wicked jasper]

do people just not read #📜・modding-rules

[lavish pike]

no

people dont read

[round ore]

-# I said that I dont talk here much, so no, i have NOT read the rules when I barely visit this place

[lavish pike]

well, read the rules first?

[wicked jasper]

yea

[lavish pike]

one thing I do when joining any server is reading all the rules

[round ore]

The channels hidden for me, how would I know its there when I cant see it

[lavish pike]

?

[lavish pike]

what do you mean

how is modding rules hidden

[round ore]

Modding rules Channel aint there for me, all I see is the rule about not discussing modding stuff outside of modding channels

[umbral pilot]

oh my god 😭

[vivid seal]

iroyokia leaked coldbeans to aikoyori so it makes sense that happened

[wanton rapids]

speaking of cold beans do you want to join back crabus

[gentle citrus]

Wait- you can basically do that?

[toxic cloud]

wow, imagine

[gentle citrus]

also one odd question against all, if you were to make a balatro mod but based on some youtubers and also the type of games, which do you guys think would be the pick?

[toxic cloud]

renaming that to mod name

that would be cool asf

e.g. Sagatro

[gentle citrus]

excluding the ones that are already been but I'm taking about like other youtubers or random games that never made into balatro.

||(as long as it doesn't actually breaks the rules of balatro mods cause yeah we already know one fact just a warning)||

What I'm basically asking is what is your favorite youtuber that doesn't have a balatro mod yet, and if you do who is it?

[buoyant kestrel]

i really shouldn’t be talking about this considering the rules but this is just false lmao

not going to elaborate

[frigid mica]

i was just trying to test my joker

this doesn't look like an errer in my part

[rain orbit]

Errer

[buoyant kestrel]

sans undertale

[rain orbit]

goofy

[gentle citrus]

bump about that question as I'm still curious about it

[full edge]

I'm pretty surprised I haven't seen a DougDoug inspired mod pop up tbh

[buoyant kestrel]

true

math youtuber mod would also be rad

[plush hound]

mf just "retired"

😭

[full edge]

what's the gimmick?

[plush hound]

but yeah youtuber mods would be cool but too ambitious for me

especially when there's too many youtubers

[full edge]

I'm going to add some challenges based on youtubers/podcasters I enjoy, just so I have somewhere to reference them, but that's about it, honestly

rip Egg deck, you will be missed

[plush hound]

i sure do wonder if Kino has a reference to Northernlion

:clueless

[plush hound]

fuck i might make it, might not

[full edge]

i mean, we are personal friends

[plush hound]

sounds too ambitious

[plush hound]

when are we adding Parasocial Deck

[full edge]

it's Egg Deck and I added it in like week 3 of making Kino

[plush hound]

😭

Cinema wordle deck too

[glad solar]

I currently have a quantum enhancement joker that makes gold cards also act as glass cards, it works as intended but the thing is that I also want the description of the affected gold card to have the badge and description of the glass card too,

Also the affected gold cards have double numerator (seperate from other glass cards) so I want it to show that too

[wanton rapids]

huh?

oh dougdoug

[plush hound]

bald streamer yes

[gentle citrus]

FiguresYou don't have to choose a lot of youtubers, choose your top 5 or top 10 youtubers you think would have?

[full edge]

The quick and dirty way I'd solve that is to take ownership of gold cards, and just change the localization key to a custom entry that has both effects, with the proper odds being passed in the vars

[gentle citrus]

But yeah there is a lot of youtubers.

[full edge]

I'd check out how cardsleeves handles the way sleeves change their effect description if you have a matching deck and sleeve

[gentle citrus]

but you don't have to pick em all.

you can pick your most ones

[glad solar]

Alright, thank you!

[full edge]

I've removed the old synergy systems from Kino so that I don't have to check for matching actors or genres on every frame anymore, but somehow the 'simpler' reimplementation is broken in more ways than I was expecting

[keen knoll]

cardsleeves just returns a seperate key in the loc vars func

[full edge]

yeah, i know, but I suspected having a code example would be easier than explaining that

because I'm not sure whether people know that you can just return a new key in loc_vars

[keen knoll]

when i tried taking ownershipand using loc vars it made the normal gold desc stop appearing

[earnest eagle]

Uuuuuhhh

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/misc_functions.lua:1347: 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 1337) near 'else'

A mod you have installed has caused a syntax error through patching. Please share this crash with the mod developer.

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL (best guess)
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-1216a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x00f5dde8'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 890
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x00f636c8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules 0x00f63718, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[keen knoll]

i used that when i was coding a joker for starspace

[gentle citrus]

Although for me I would pick with Siivagunner, Vinesauce Joel, Yahiamice, DanTDM, ExplodingTNT, SMG4 (not the modern but the classic if any) and Luigikid

But suprisingly some mods are already covered.

the other ones I2m waiting on for.

However, I did came across other youtube channels that I got interested in, Like CiblesGD for example.

[earnest eagle]

Here's my mod folder, 99% of the stuff is for Malverk

[neon urchin]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PqQQYWrQTHI

[turbid heart]

balala

morne

[pine bone]

what

[gentle citrus]

||(By the way, I am aware that there's people have "manlybadasshero" as their favorite youtuber considering that their subscriber count is 2 millon but honestly I don't know how this incooperates into balatro mod, considering that this youtuber usually reviews horror games most of the time (he also played Deltarune too), thought I wanna bring this up)||

[neon urchin]

i cant read your text, i think there may be a giant line going across all your words

oooh

[gentle citrus]

there.

[neon urchin]

thanks

i like manly’s bad ass

[past lava]

same

[neon urchin]

wth….

am i mx claus with no skin tone

[gentle citrus]

wat?

[neon urchin]

👱 🎄

[keen knoll]

me too

its cool seeing a bunch of indie horrors

[neon urchin]

i like his voice 🤤

[gentle citrus]

Anyways, now speaking of manlybadhero, the most of this youtuber plays horror games, and well... I don't know how this incooperates into balatro since despite on how he have to blur NSFW content in the games with "anime" (though most of the games he plays were mostly SFW but yeah)

[keen knoll]

oh

[gentle citrus]

And well honestly I like indie horror games that have unique concepts behind them

[limber oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZfDuuEP9zE should i add this as a game over quip

[gentle citrus]

and suprised no one have even like, made mods or a fandom about them.

[neon urchin]

i would die if someone microwaved my head

[limber oak]

do i or do i dont

[acoustic tusk]

does the version.dll go into the balatro folder or the balatro mod folder

[limber oak]

balatro folder

[gentle citrus]

if you do it like, how yahi mod does the fake win screen sure go ahead.

[acoustic tusk]

ok

[dire trail]

holy shit is that sollux captor

[limber oak]

yahimod uses an image

id make it an actual game over quip that plays the sound

[acoustic tusk]

do i need balamod

[gentle citrus]

I'll say the recent video for example as I have not heard about this game despite it's a SCP's Coffee machine, And I have 0 idea if anyone else had played it. (I clearly done nor even have thought to search it up yet.)

[gentle citrus]

oh. alright.

[dire trail]

did i hop in the middle of an ethan session or smth

[acoustic tusk]

?

[dire trail]

ethan did the same thing

like a week or two ago

[acoustic tusk]

idk who ethan is but ok

its a yes or no question

[dire trail]

metherul

[dusty token]

balamod is old, no

[wanton rapids]

this is genuine i think

[neon urchin]

👀…. i… i have NOT played it before bad ass 👀…. i have NOT… on itch io…. 👀

[dire trail]

oh mb

[acoustic tusk]

yeah it is genuine

[dusty token]

you just need lovely and smods

[acoustic tusk]

what do balatro imm and balamod do

[umbral pilot]

he's annoying and largely disliked by the community

[gentle citrus]

Not sure how this implies but me neither, I think I might havet look at the video and maybe look for the game's name and see what this game have or such.

[dusty token]

imm installs mods, balamod is old modloader

[umbral pilot]

I think that imm should be renamed to Gerome

[dusty token]

cool name

[acoustic tusk]

is there a mod that gives a simple place to manage your mods

[umbral pilot]

imm

and the smods mod menu, but that's integrated

[acoustic tusk]

i dont have any mod menu in imm

no mod menu

[dusty token]

browse, in search bar type .

(yeah i should make a toggle)

[gentle citrus]

did you look in modpack button by any chance?

[acoustic tusk]

i did but i didnt see anything that like toggles mods or anything

which is the latest

how do i get that button

[dusty token]

green one

[dusty token]

download steamodded

[acoustic tusk]

should i have the button

[dusty token]

the latest orange may refer to latest commit which you dont want

[acoustic tusk]

wait why tf was steamodded disabled

thats why it didnt work

what does this do

[neon urchin]

the top one increases or decreases raw game speed multiplier and the bottom one adjusts deltaTime

[acoustic tusk]

what is deltatime

no

i dont understand what that means

[neon urchin]

uhm delta is like change, so like delta time is the change of time

[buoyant kestrel]

it’s a simple calculation actually

[neon urchin]

am i goated

[buoyant kestrel]

there’s like no performance reason to not do it

[hard plank]

download my mod trust

[neon urchin]

should i buy

i wanna doa hot pot

[latent crescent]

I guess without check, it's regular game speed multiplier you would expect
With - game will thing that time itself runs faster

[buoyant kestrel]

i mean deltatime is just how long the last frame took

[hard plank]

do you live in BC

[dusty token]

as a normal player no need to worry about it

[buoyant kestrel]

roughly anyway

balatro doesn’t need to worry about it but sometimes deltatime can cause new bugs

with physics stuff

[hard plank]

does the clock Cryptid use delta time

[limber oak]

quick question but i wanna add my mod to be selectable from your ingame mod manager

[candid rain]

any pokermon enjoyers here? idk why i am unable to use energy cards sometimes. it's not clear

[latent crescent]

cryptid's clock rely on G.SETTINGS.GAMESPEED

[unkempt current]

That wasn't a question thoug

[hard plank]

what do i do to get my mid mod in the ingame mod management

[dusty token]

is it on bmm?

[candid rain]

See how Double Rainbow is greyed out, and Wyrdeer only has 1 out of 3 energy?

[full edge]

I'd mention it on the pokermon server! The devs don't check here all too often, I think!

[unkempt current]

If there's ice and fireice in this chat, where's fire?

[candid rain]

ooo pokermon server

[acoustic tusk]

why'd my game crash

[full edge]

https://discord.gg/SE2XedgR

oh huh

[unkempt current]

Pfft

[full edge]

it copied the wrong server

https://discord.gg/SE2XedgR

what

[candid rain]

maybe it's no longer existent?

can you screenshot the link

[limber oak]

no
ive been having recent problems with bmm also

[unkempt current]

cryptid...

Idk

What I do is remove mods until the crash is gone

[full edge]

It does exist, but the link neither shows up for me or lets itself be copied. It just looks like discord.gg

[unkempt current]

To highlight which mod is the bad guy

[candid rain]

🙁

[latent crescent]

try disable multplayer's score preview

[dusty token]

https://discord.gg/AptX86Qsyz

i think its this one

[full edge]

https://discord.gg/AptX86Qsyz

[latent crescent]

it is

[candid rain]

YES YES YES

[full edge]

ah yeah, there it is, haha

[candid rain]

Thank you!

[full edge]

think discord's just being buggy for me, somehow

[limber oak]

👻

[dusty token]

👻

what problem?

[acoustic tusk]

it was never enableed

[limber oak]

when i go into the installed mods section 99% of the launcher just stops functioning
this is a problem for 0.2.7+

[dusty token]

if you're not sure how to submit, follow https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index?tab=readme-ov-file#required-files

[latent crescent]

Probably some mods conflict with each other with attemping to update UI somewhere

[dusty token]

oh

[latent crescent]

Unfortunately no more info which mod specifically

[limber oak]

📁 is still responsive
i can turn off mods
but i cant go back, go to settings or go to the second page

here it is in video form

wait hold on

[buoyant kestrel]

it’s a known thing

whatever server you are in is the link copied

[dusty token]

i recommend making a new issue on bmm

[buoyant kestrel]

regardless of what you actually rightclick on

[dusty token]

as for adding your mod, follow this one. it uses the same index as bmm

[buoyant kestrel]

though it may be a different bug but I’ve noticed this with multiple people

[worn rain]

sup chat

[limber oak]

issue 301

[dusty token]

cool

im not a bmm maintainer though so best to do rn is wait

[frigid mica]

Why are you balding

[umbral pilot]

mm I want to play with shotguns

[formal orchid]

will you shoot me

[hard plank]

does my mod appear on imm

[limber oak]

im so confused on this part

[dusty token]

ye

[hard plank]

wow

[limber oak]

did i do this right if i want people to download the main branch

[hard plank]

i need to make trailers once I'm done with majority of what i want for a first full release

[sly wedge]

Y’all have any mod suggestions? So I’ve got “All in Jest” “Cryptid” “Paperback” and “Bunco”

[dusty token]

i dont think github provides url for latest releases' source code

[hard plank]

Aikoshen

trust

[dusty token]

do something like https://github.com/FireIce421/BalatroDash/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[hard plank]

Aikoyori's Shenanigans

[formal orchid]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325147180280971294

trust

[pine bone]

i think im balling?

[dusty token]

oh wait its the url

[sly wedge]

What’s it add?

[hard plank]

it adds

[silent thistle]

please
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1333809003829923900

[hard plank]

63 jokers

[formal orchid]

defeat

[sly wedge]

Alright.

[deft ore]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1397989781178155009

[silent thistle]

And let us know what you, the player, think.

[formal orchid]

😔 ** **

[silent thistle]

oh god

[hard plank]

and at least 50 boss blinds

[limber oak]

thats literally word for word

[dusty token]

yeah ignore me 😭

[deft ore]

wait is hotpot still broken with cryptid

[hard plank]

consumable set that will make you think hard like actually

[latent crescent]

iirc yes because no one cares fixing this

[hard plank]

and decks so unique it's not even funny

sleepyg11 i fixed my bosses

i think

[deft ore]

cryptid players would never uninstall their beloved cryptid so ig no hotpot

[latent crescent]

balatrue

[sly wedge]

I feel like Cryptid is neat, but stylistically I prefer Bunco or Paperback

Some of the card art is especially nice.

Anyway thanks for the suggestions, I melt now.

[fossil flower]

hey y'all are there any mobile mods or no

[latent crescent]

rule 4

[fossil flower]

Oh, sorry about that.

[full compass]

i too prefer paperback

minor bias

If you’re looking for similar mods, shout out to some my friends with mods or mods they helped contribute to are KCVanilla, Neato Jokers, Cosmos, Extra Credit, and All in Jest

[full edge]

bias the same size as my arcanas

[full compass]

Truth. So glad the whole set is finally done

[forest knoll]

so excited for the pentacles to release

[full compass]

Oh I’ve also contributed to LuckyRabbit and it’s a pretty popular mod i think

But yeah Pentacles!

[full edge]

I should really catch up with paperback again

It's been a few months since I touched it

[full compass]

I think over all next update massively upgrades the playing experience. I’m really happy with it

just minor things left to do for the update

[hard plank]

papermoon please contribute to my mod

[full edge]

I'll wait in anticipation then, haha

[full compass]

though seemingly some boss blinds are having issues

[hard plank]

[full compass]

I mean, i think i have technically i just always forget lmao

now you want actual jokers the answer is maybe, what’cha got in mind?

[hard plank]

right now i don't have anything because my head hurts lol

[full compass]

lmao yeah fair enough

[hard plank]

tho you did contribute to the pure card for compat

[forest knoll]

ya the pure apostles/stars/crowns art

[full compass]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[hard plank]

i already put that on my side so

[full compass]

feel a little bad the apostle art isn’t unique but is what it is

[hard plank]

the priority is to make them readable

[full edge]

does your favorite movie happen to be the '78 Superman movie, Moon? If so, I've got some prime real estate for me to ask for some art, haha

[hard plank]

how many spider man movies are there

[full edge]

8 live action ones

[hard plank]

i still have yet to do an actual cross mod joker with kino

[full edge]

10 if we're counting cinematic animated releases

[full compass]

I actually don’t think i’ve seen any spiderman movies other than specifically the spiderverse set and marvel set

[hard plank]

why are there so many

[full edge]

They reboot a lot, haha

[full compass]

My favorite movie is Ocean’s 11 (which is already in paperback now)

[hard plank]

like movie just called spider man if that's a thing

do they have problems with the system or something

[full edge]

Oh, what's Paperback's Ocean's 11 effect?

[hard plank]

my favourite movie

uh

uhhh

dang it i forgot to watch nysm 3

[full compass]

low quality art due to it being a screen shot of the atlas on my phone

But after beating a boss blind, generates a random tag for each ace held in hand

to represent the heist and planning aspects

[full edge]

Oh, that's sick. I know the poster that's based on, haha

[dusty token]

berdly

[full compass]

Yeah, and I decided to replace them all with legendaries

[hard plank]

potentially the movie called Your Name

maybe now you see me 2

[full compass]

the internet has forgotten undertale yellow 😔

[full edge]

For the 2001 Ocean's 11 I went really simple, there's no planning to this heist, haha

[full compass]

I love it still. Love me the oceans 11’s posters

[hard plank]

maybe the doraemon and the painting movie

[full compass]

they’re so good

[full edge]

But for the Sinatra one, the effect is one of my favorites. Really hits the mark of doing a heist, as you can 'steal' value from the shop by finding a way to destroy the joker instead of selling it

[full compass]

That’s fun. Does it also include shop purchases? Or just effects that lower money like rentals and boss blinds

[full edge]

I'll have to set it up so that Kino recognizes Paperback's Ocean's 11 as the movie, because with it even being poster-based art, I can't not make it work with my systems, haha

Shop purchases are the intended goal, yeah

[full compass]

I think thats the only movie one i have

let me double check

[full edge]

Lost isn't a great choice of words there. I haven't arrived at the Ocean's movies in my proofreading, but I'm sure I'll be stuck on that one for a while, haha

Also, don't watch the original Ocean's 11. It's truly dreadfully boring and has none of the charm and style that the Clooney version has

[full compass]

Hahahaha

Fair enough

and yeah, that’s my only movie joker

though some tv shows have them

[full edge]

Haha, I'll have to remember to point people to Paperback then, when people ask me if Kino also has TV show jokers

[full compass]

Task Master, One Piece, Better Call Saul are the only three tv show ones

but I could absolutely get some cartoon jokers in. I love me some Cartoon Network

[full edge]

I've definitely used the One Piece joker. Can't remember if I encountered the Task Master one 🤔

[hard plank]

papermoon I'm not sure if you've seen the better part of my mod yet but it's mostly about the things i like

so I'll have to think about things i like

which i don't like because it makes me think

[full edge]

Now I've gotten the urge to get to work on this held item API so I can make a devil fruits mod and turn Jimbo into a rubber man

[full compass]

See if you can’t cross reference any jokers i’ve made lmao

[hard plank]

no thought head empty

[full compass]

Paperback’s biggest reference categories are Games and Music

[hard plank]

block buster api compat

[full compass]

or game music

[forest knoll]

the design is just the task envelope with a red seal on it, probably slipped under your radar (especially since it's called Joke Master iirc)

[hard plank]

mine is just

random bullshit go

[full edge]

I doubt it, I've obsessively watched taskmaster 😛 British panel show comedy was my first love before I became a movie guy, haha

[hard plank]

that's a lot

[full compass]

oh wait

there is another movie joker

[full edge]

I've played a good amount of runs with Paperback, but I'm quite sure I never discovered all jokers, so there's a good chance I missed plenty

[solemn mason]

Where's the joker that trains me and gets me into professional boxing?

[full compass]

i am jimbo

[full compass]

you’ll want Bunco’s righthook joker

[hard plank]

my 2 most recent jokers

[hard plank]

Pearto

[full edge]

this one?

[full compass]

peggle and snowpea holy peak

[full compass]

Pearmbo

1 in 100 chance the pear joker is randomly replaced with it once rolled

[full edge]

though I have karate jokers too if boxing's not your thing

[hard plank]

idk what to make them do so this is what they do for now

[full compass]

seems like you could use a bejeweled joker

[hard plank]

hmmmm

[full compass]

gotta have the trinity

[hard plank]

i did play a lot of bejeweled when i was younger

[full compass]

oh god trinity

[hard plank]

but mostly puzzles

[full compass]

i should get a set of orange box jokers

[hard plank]

I'm not forgetting Chuzzle

[forest knoll]

i don't actually have very many jokers of my own lmao, so i haven't had much time to build up any references yet
that said...

it's a stone, luigi

[full edge]

Man, your art is so good. Every time I check it out I'm taken aback again

[rustic helm]

slows down the game velocity but x1.75 mult and chips idk, im not good doing effects

[full compass]

“You didn’t make it!”

i love that clip so much

[solemn mason]

I played a lot of the Bejeweled that used poker hands, which I guess is relevant here.

[full compass]

especially the edit where he just instantly throws it at mario

[forest knoll]

i should reference the mario cartoons some more tbh

[hard plank]

modifying game settings is lame

[full compass]

I think cardsauce has one

[forest knoll]

yea that's a pretty safe bet lol

[full edge]

I feel like I only added print statements to my code, but somehow I can't reproduce certain bugs anymore 🥲

[full compass]

Perhaps something about hands? Or gaining hands. Hands are already associated with the blue color and gaining extra could be seen as ‘freezing’ the blind in place

[full edge]

Let's just pretend I sovled them

[forest knoll]

if you can't reproduce it, it simply doesn't exist 😌

[solemn mason]

What the heck is a frozen blind?

[latent crescent]

so true

[dusk geyser]

🎷 🐌

[hard plank]

i was thinking of giving joker to the right freezing edition where it gets retriggered 1 time or something

[full compass]

If you play a hand, then your hands go back up, it’s like nothing happened other than your score increasing. As if the blind was ‘frozen’ and didn’t respond to you

[hard plank]

tho X1.75 score is silly because snow pea costs 175 sun

[full compass]

Is this not just blueprint? I guess it’s a little different cause it could stack with it

[hard plank]

also the peggle joker i really want it to have something related to scoring

[hard plank]

it applies edition whenever a new hand is drawn

[full compass]

I see. Suppose that’s good then, if not a little strong.

[forest knoll]

joker retriggers can apply even to blueprint-incompatible jokers

[hard plank]

so it's still blueprint but slightly more versatile

[forest knoll]

also it might retrigger effects that blueprint doesn't copy (like scaling)

[full compass]

I like them both honestly

[hard plank]

i did try with the art

[full edge]

I was going to use this opportunity to convince you to use my Counters API and use the Frost counters, but it seems the rendering crashes with new smods, somehow

[forest knoll]

uh oh 👀

[full compass]

i love the shading on the ball for peggle

peak

[hard plank]

tried copying the game screenshot

my friend is a peggle enthusiast

i made him like 2 custom peggle levels

[full edge]

Well, that made me discover things. I might be knocking on your door soon, Meta, haha

[forest knoll]

my smods PR has still been untouched, so maybe i'll update my fork and see if that version has any issues. and then pester eremel about getting it merged or something

[hard plank]

also my mod is updated to latest smods

[full compass]

might take today to rep more indie games, I enjoyed doing that

I should take some time to piece out how much percent each series takes up in jokers

[hard plank]

aaaand the card vortex is gone lmao

[full compass]

Sonic and Undertale (if we include Deltarune and UTY) might be the number one spot if i had to guess

Well actually, maybe it’s project moon

[hard plank]

i don't pm

i just add reference to things i like

arcade games n shit

[full edge]

The API still works, it's only the version I prepackaged in Kino that seems to break, so I'm pretty confident it's not anything related to your rendering code. I suspect that I just accidentally added something somewhere that stack overflows, or something, and loads when counters are spawned

[forest knoll]

I see I see

[full edge]

Anyway, Aiko, no clue how you'd make this beneficial for your cold pea shooter, but still... make it use Frost Counters ❤️

[forest knoll]

still need to pester the SMODS ppl though lol, and updating the fork should bring the PR back to the top of the list lol

[full compass]

I love just adding whatever has my attention for the week, you can see my obsessions over time by going through the atlas

[vivid seal]

what if the jokers evolved like in Spore (2008) 🤔

[full edge]

It's a very fun thing to check out the more kitchen sink mods and just see people get really into something for a while, as like 5 new jokers based on it spawn in, haha

[ornate bone]

I have a crazy ass idea for a joker. A joker that uses a LUA based genesis emulator to play blue spheres where the more spheres you collect the more chips you gain but if you touch a red sphere then you lose all of the chips this joker collects.

[hard plank]

frost counter doesn't seem beneficial 😭

[full edge]

It isn't, haha. It's there because I wanted every pokémon status condition to be in the API as a baseline, haha. And I'm adding an Elsa boss blind that applies it to cards

[full compass]

Pokermon 2

[hard plank]

i recently just updated my showdown bosses to be less ass

[ornate bone]

oh good the ince- [DMCA'D BY DISNEY]

[full compass]

Oh we have a ton of showdown blinds that need work

[hard plank]

played suits are debuffed is boring

[full edge]

I'm still considering making a Pokermon add on mod that adds gym leaders as boss blinds, and apply counters

[hard plank]

what about shuffle everything you didn't play back into deck and draw you full hand?

[full compass]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PASVdFEUthutKjdsQ8aZ0w863nwBcSf285EYwWuR1lQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

go to the blinds slide on the bottom

we have so many

[full edge]

Blinds are a super difficult design space, I find

[ornate bone]

true

[full compass]

They are and that’s why i love them

[hard plank]

it is tricky to come up with blinds

[full compass]

no one tell my devs I have a whole ‘nother set of blinds….

[hard plank]

that's why I'm going to be innovative

[ornate bone]

I think... If I ever made my own balatro mod. I'd combine my various mod ideas into a package.

[hard plank]

and add puzzles to my blinds

[full edge]

Whole reason I added counters as a concept was because I struggled to come up with interesting blinds that impacted you in ways that mattered, but didn't try to be instakills. Especially because vanilla balatro doesn't really have many ways for a blind to impact you in ways that still matter after the blind is done, without really crippling you permanently

[full compass]

I have Music Notation, Wingdings, and wip Katakana blinds

[full edge]

I had like 5 different econ-related blinds that I all reworked to be a variation on applying Debt counters to your deck, as directly affecting money, or permanently upgrading cards with $-1 was noooo fun, haha

[ornate bone]

I miiiiight clone Super Balatario Bros. for a version that's based on SMB3.

[full compass]

I think it was Bunco that really opened my eyes to blinds being sick as hell

[ornate bone]

idk yet

[full compass]

the Trident Boss that made you skip every shop that ante was brutal but one of the coolest feelings the first time I saw it

[full edge]

I need to check Bunco's blind out again, I don't remember them standing out in particular

[full compass]

The trident got nerfed so it doesn’t do the aura any more

😔

[hard plank]

my mod has the letters so i get to add way more bosses for those too

[full edge]

Big issue mods tend to have with blinds is also just that the power level for even mods that aim for vanilla is often higher, so you're more likely to one-shot blinds and just brush past 'm. I think it's why for me, I don't really remember most blinds unless they're frustrating. Though that's a shame, there's plenty of well-designed and cool modded blinds

I guess the gimmick ones stay with me, haha. Entropy and Aiko's gimmick blinds, and such

[full compass]

I try to play around with builds in particular I know work with my mod

[hard plank]

what gimmick blinds

you mean wordle

[full compass]

Coda for instance messes with Photochad if you need full hands and not just high card

[full edge]

wordle and such, yeah

When did Paperback get blinds? Or have they not been implemented yet?

[full compass]

Some have, I believe two major updates ago

[hard plank]

ice

[full edge]

My favorite blinds in Kino are the Halloween mode exclusive ones, but those are also a lot more mean, and I really like The Beach That Makes You Old, but that's a timing-related blind, so not everyone'll love that, haha

[lost inlet]

probably a big reason why one of my mod's blinds is one of my favorites because it's pretty hard to one-shot
vermillion wand, leaves only one suit in your deck not debuffed each hand

[forest knoll]

oh speaking of my canvassprite stuff, finally got around to finishing up the UI work for dice
now the text is done with the balatro UI system instead of love.graphics commands, which makes it a lot sharper/less fuzzy

[full edge]

That'spotentially still a bit sink-or-swim, but it's a fun concept, yeah

[full edge]

yeah that looks really nice!

[lost inlet]

oh yea definitely
it can just kill you

[hard plank]

these are just musical notes

[full compass]

Yep. Music notation was the first set of blinds I concepted

[full edge]

Excited to be able to absorb that code into Kino, haha, the font for counters gets hard to read when the screen is too small

[full compass]

I was a band kid and wish every day i still had my instrument

[full edge]

Blind that makes you old

[full compass]

if only Marimba’s weren’t 3 grand

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[full edge]

Ah, I'm surprised they're not on the modded wiki yet, then!

[lost inlet]

just pause smh

[hard plank]

I'm picking up electric guitar

[forest knoll]

enjoy the hooking of a fundamental love2d callback function :3

[full compass]

That is odd yeah, they aren’t on the wiki. Huh

[hard plank]

i mean

modded wiki needs a lot of upkeep

and oinite is like

not the main person now

[full compass]

But yeah I played pit percussion in high school. I love playing the Vibraphone

[full edge]

Lots of the regular contributors have stopped focusing on the wiki as much, so even for the bigger mods, unless you're updating it yourself, it'll be outdated, yeah

[full compass]

oh trust me i’m aware. Paperback is mega out of date on the wiki at points, and im waiting for the next major update to fix it

[full edge]

Though I was assuming Paperback was played enough and known enough to have someone that just updated the wiki when they saw a new github pr, haha

[ancient wolf]

hii does somebody know the name of the mod that make u select cards pressing only one button i cant find it, and if u can use it while playing mp thanks

[balmy lily]

weeping angel blind which sends you to ante 0 but doubles effective antes if you lose to it in the first place

[forest knoll]

(UI tries very hard to adapt its size and positioning based on the window size/resolution. for the purposes of this canvassprite stuff, it needs to Not do that. so you have to rebuild the UI whenever the window resizes :3)

[full edge]

The Kino wiki is barely representative of the mod at this point. Half the jokers don't even use the pixel art yet

[fathom gust]

handy?

[lost inlet]

local ldraw = love.graphics.draw
function love.graphics.draw(...)
    if SMODS then SMODS.calculate_effect{ xmult = 2 } end
    return ldraw(...)
end

[full compass]

Yeah, even with Roffle and Murph playing it on occasion, it’s a rather small mod in my view. Though modders seem to like our work haha

[forest knoll]

CEASE

[full edge]

I'm so impressed that you've been setting that all up

[full compass]

We’re certainly not cryptid where non modded players know us, but those who mod seem to know us. That’s enough for me

[lost inlet]

[ancient wolf]

thanks

[full edge]

I mean, every mod besides Cryptid is a small mod, honestly, haha. I don't think anything in the balatro modding scene gets too much traction, regardless. Most modding channels are devs and a few regulars, haha

[hard plank]

i hope my mod is big enough

[balmy lily]

i dunno what rhe main effect should be anyway

[lost inlet]

i'm 99% sure that would cause an infinite loop

[hard plank]

tho i work mostly alone

[sage sleet]

could someone help me mod the twitter icon

I've tried doing this and it kept resetting to the default icon

over and over again

[full edge]

I should figure out how I can use a bigger blind sprite while in a run, because looking at the blinds again makes me weep for my sweet little pale man.

[ornate bone]

I just use the mod that deletes twitter.

[full edge]

But yeah, I feel like Paperback, Extra Credit and Ortalab are kinda those mods on the tier below Cryptid, as far as reputation goes. Probably the biggest mods out there, but the community that plays mods just isn't big enough to really notice, haha

Oh wait, I forget Pokermon

that's functionally on that Cryptid tier, of course

[gentle raptor]

Boss blind that makes you use normal playing cards. All 52 starting cards with no effects or seals

[plush hound]

speaking of

https://youtu.be/Q7OBYUqRWDw

[ornate bone]

That shoud be a deck

[full compass]

You can thank doc for that one

[full compass]

yooo aij rep

[plush hound]

All in Jest is contending

legendaryslop

[ornate bone]

I even have a deck of vegas playing cards we could digitize the back of.

[plush hound]

im joking

[full edge]

i didn't know margot robbie was a balatro youtuber

[plush hound]

well now you know

[balmy lily]

The Taintless

[sage sleet]

I'm following this steam guide for reference
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3175454527

[full edge]

I'm impressed by how simple All in Jest manages to keep most designs, even wtith how many jokers it has. I had like 10 jokers implemented before I started making effects that needed paragraph breaks, haha

[plush hound]

if you want a content creator to play your mod just make it vanilla esque with joker counts that's above 200

[full edge]

Time to pretend like Kino doesn't have a theme

[plush hound]

😭

[gentle raptor]

brilliant

[plush hound]

I've seen a couple All in Jest video and

y'know it's good but ehh

[gentle raptor]

The Gutter boss blind that debuffs all secret hands

[hard plank]

nevernamed is not a real human they are a machine

not in a bad way

[full edge]

It's probably insane for me to be the one saying this, considering I have 375 jokers atm, haha, but I've come to realize that I like smaller content packages more, especially if its vanilla+, as with too many jokers, it becomes hard to know what you can build towards

But All in Jest's art is so good that it's hard to deny

[ornate bone]

Here's that deck I was talking about

[full edge]

every joker could give +4 mult and it'd still be one of the coolest mods out there, haha

[plush hound]

thank you for saying this, because i felt like I'm going to get lynched if i said this 😭

[gentle raptor]

The Chalk and The Graphite boss blinds that debuffs clubs/spades and diamonds/hearts respectively

[plush hound]

but yeah, the arts really good

like no shades or anything, it's just too much

[full edge]

Part of why I'm setting up the Playsets API now, haha. I realized that as much as I enjoyed making jokers for Kino, I don't as much enjoy playing it in part due to me adding so many damn jokers

[hard plank]

is this a good card for some reason

[plush hound]

😭

[ornate bone]

Real Life Deck - The only joker you'll find in this deck is the vanilla joker.

[plush hound]

people like to either break the game or having too many jokers

[balmy lily]

the gutter's too niche to do something unless the effect would be flipped (it would be cruel instead)

[sly wedge]

I have a… probably stupid question, do crash logs show any like data relating to the person playing modded? (Like IP address etc, I don’t really understand stuff like this which is why I ask)

[plush hound]

no

[sly wedge]

Oh

[gentle raptor]

Silly Deck - Start with 12 Pocket Jokers

Pocket Joker - +4 Mult, no suit or rank, always scores

[sly wedge]

Well then I’ve a fantastic gift

[plush hound]

they wouldn't do that

[ornate bone]

has somebody turned the rule card from real life playing card decks into a joker for balatro?

[full edge]

oh damn, counters break the save system somehow

Wonder how I managed to do that

[balmy lily]

this was modded in already as the day and night respectively from cruel blinds.. though that gives me a malicious idea

[gentle raptor]

oh?

[keen knoll]

the username of the player

in the path name

[plush hound]

and here i thought multiplayer will only have a small community the moment i found out about it because of the concept of multiplayer in this game sounds eh , the discord server has like 200 and 400 members that time

[balmy lily]

all i can say is true

[ornate bone]

Multiplayer is neat but some of the mods I have loaded would be broken as hell against another player

[sly wedge]

Alright took me a minute to get it but here’s the crash log

[plush hound]

Multiplayer in a game like this doesn't sound too right

[ornate bone]

because I could just sit there and stall with SUper Balatario Bros. to quickly rack up points before striking for big damage.

[wispy canopy]

how would you guys feel about a version of all in jest that is deliberately much smaller and more digestable, like maybe 75 of my favorite jokers

[sly wedge]

Idk what the hell all o this means

Wait why did it?

[gentle raptor]

what do we think of Pocket Jokers. Playing cards that when held in hand activate joker effects. Only ones I'll bother to make will be the hand-type based mult cards

If you play a flush and you have a pocket droll joker in hand you get +10 mult

Slowly looks over at mime

[wispy canopy]

bc i think its a bit of a shame that a lot of ppl are turned off to the mod bc of how big it is

[gentle raptor]

Not jolly, droll, whoops

[main path]

"some in jest" goes hard

[full edge]

I don't think you'll need a separate mod for that

[full compass]

I think that's why banner is cool. It's why I sometimes run it for experiences like this

[buoyant kestrel]

banner goes hard

[balmy lily]

light in jest

[plush hound]

banner is nice, they should have a presets option

[full compass]

All the Best?

[plush hound]

cuz I'm not doing it manually

[balmy lily]

probably

[vivid seal]

lite in jest

[plush hound]

like, if you have banner, your mod will have it's own banner presets

[wispy canopy]

that's why i dont rlly wanna say "just use banner" because you'd have to do it manually

[full edge]

I'm working on an API mod that basically has shareable presets for a Banner setting, that you'll be able to pick before your run starts. I'd hope that that will work well enough that for any mod, that's usable

[wispy canopy]

maybe itd just be a setting

[umbral pilot]

ban who?

[spare geyser]

i mean i think mods being big is a good thing if all of it works lots of cool content to see but then again this is my mod about Fortnite so

[balmy lily]

the entire field being filled with jolly joker is a joke come true if someone lets this in

[wispy canopy]

So like lite in jest
some in jest
all in jest

[plush hound]

ban you

[plush hound]

in due time aren uses Ice's API, but maybe you can make it a toggle

[full edge]

I only need to finish the system the galdur menu for it, after which I'd be able to release the base, and hopefully I'll finish the playset maker tool a bit after, as that'd allow people to make a curated content list in game, and turn those into files you can share

[plush hound]

Curated Experience

[wispy canopy]

idek why the criticism of "its way too big" bothers me

[full edge]

Because you've put effort into every part of the mod

[wispy canopy]

i guess i just wanna appeal to as many playerbases as possible

[full edge]

and it doesn't feel right that more of a cool, high-effort thing becomes a critique of it, i reckon

[wispy canopy]

like obv no offense to people that have that opinion

[wicked jasper]

that's the thing

[plush hound]

It's overwhelming for people who're looking for some casual experience imo, me for example

[wicked jasper]

trying to appeal to everyone doesn't work

[wispy canopy]

FUCK its over

deleting all in jest now

[plush hound]

NOOOOO

[full edge]

I only feel this way about giant mods after playtesting my own giant mod for like 100 hours, haha. There's always a chance that my generic critique of size might be me projecting Kino's issues onto all other mods 😛

[wispy canopy]

but i do want to be accessible to most people looking for modded without being too overwhelming

[neon urchin]

I DOXXED MYSELF……

i bought it btw, it was delicious

hi nxkoo

[plush hound]

what's up

[spare geyser]

idk who Fortlatro even appeals to tbh but theres clearly SOME playerbase

[neon urchin]

the ceiling!!!!

[plush hound]

haha!!

[neon urchin]

ily

[plush hound]

ily2

[main path]

see thats the thing
If i ever do get a full proper release of Multiverse, I was considering a small addon for people that want to play my mod with big number mods (cryptid, mayhem)
I still have a main audience in mind for my mod, but basically any extra content that I feel doesnt belong to the main mod might go to this extra addon mod

[plush hound]

i mean shit it's Fortnite

[spare geyser]

thats true but theres like no content uploaded anywhere about it lol

[plush hound]

i have played mods ever since 0.9.8 SMODS

i love smaller content mods honestly

[vivid seal]

i am a rampant modslop enjoyer and i enjoy having a LOT of content ngl

like

[neon urchin]

i like to overstimulate myself and eventually crash the game with as many big mods as possible

ok man im not that masochistic

[main path]

I'm gonna be honest
I really only play one content mod at a time

[gentle raptor]

Boss blind that only lets you win if you pat your belly

[main path]

i dont have more than one content mod enabled usually

[neon urchin]

normal people vs number slop enjoyers

[gentle raptor]

I'm so full of red seals!

[vivid seal]

46 mods enabled #ILOVESLOP

[neon urchin]

thats what she said

[spare geyser]

try fortlatro it has lots of content and will probably be getting an update soon™ with achievements and stuff

[vivid seal]

i love having so much content that every run feels unique even though i know damn well i'm gonna have the same fucking build every time

[wispy canopy]

many such cases

[vivid seal]

i will reconsider it

i'm not a avid enjoyer of fortnite but this would be funny to stick in

[wispy canopy]

do you have all in jest :3

[vivid seal]

yes

[wispy canopy]

peam

[plush hound]

themed mods

[limber oak]

it has been done

[vivid seal]

actually im just gonna drop my modlist here
ignore debugplusplus and multipack, they're disabled

[neon urchin]

my slop too sloppy and my numbers too big

[vivid seal]

in terms of max mods enabled though, nxkoo beats me with like.. I think it was 150 ish mods? Not sure

[plush hound]

200*

[neon urchin]

nxkoo beats you?!

[vivid seal]

200???

my bad

[plush hound]

yes

[limber oak]

crabus can you check out 0.0.2a,,,,

[full edge]

Also, for that Playset API, if you're interested, Ren, this is a mock-up of the UI, but the way it's set up is that you can predefine a bunch of packages, such as 'jokers with jimbo on them', 'space themed jokers' or 'econ jokers', so that a player can toggle things on and off pretty quickly. The playsets themselves are basically presets that already ban or enable specific packages, and can be shipped with the mod. 'Thematic Set 3', as it says here, could be 'Ren's favorite jokers' instead, or it could be 'Space', etc.

I set it up originally for Kino so that I can have a way for a player to disable content that needs a specific mechanic when a run starts, rather than needing to use the config. In my dev repo, I've got a bunch of packages that are just aesthetic, but some are for specific playstyles. It's also made with the fact that I've added 9 enhancements in mind, as that means it's way harder to get multiple of the same enhancement in your deck without using death or card duping. That way you can limit the amount of content that will show up that just makes it harder to find any viable build. But the end result is an API that'll make it easier for people to curate and share content lists with each other. For All In Jest, I'm sure the use-case will be different enough from mine, as you guys introduce a lot less mechanics than I do, so there's less anti-synergy that comes from the amount of content, but it might still be something to consider.

[vivid seal]

yeah im a fake modslopper, sorry guys

[neon urchin]

thats alot of words

[full edge]

Definitely let me know if there'd be any features you'd personally really would like to have in something like that, if you think there's a way to use it for All In Jest!

[vivid seal]

i don't get it

[full edge]

only reason I made Glue is so I can still show up in people's modlists 🥲

[vivid seal]

tbf i use glue for the extra slots

allows for more leeway ngl

i should probably increase my consum slots though

[full edge]

If you're playing with a bunch of mods, Glue kinda becomes a necessity, honestly. At least to compensate for the way new consumables mess with spawn rates

[neon urchin]

i eat glue

[gentle raptor]

Mindful Joker that gives you X4 mult if all of your other jokers are perfectly symmetrical in rarity

[umbral pilot]

glue eater behavior

[neon urchin]

thanks

[spare geyser]

i think he means that funny thing people do where they like remove letters from the text to make it say something completely different like this?

[vivid seal]

i originally used glue just to make the shop have more items in it
it feels very limiting when the shop has only 1 voucher and 2 jokers when you have like 150+ vouchers and 1600+ jokers

[full edge]

You'll basically be locked out of any tier 2 voucher if you have that many

[vivid seal]

ahh

[vivid seal]

as if i already wasn't barely seeing any in my runs

[spare geyser]

just a guess

[vivid seal]

let alone antimatter

[full edge]

And if you play a lot of mods that add new mechanics, you'll also struggle to be able to find the jokers that synergize with that mechanic if the shop isn't growing properly with your collection, haha

[wispy canopy]

I think what i want is definitely a lot simpler, like we'd just have one option for people who want a very vanilla experience with like 50 of our simpler and more vanilla-adjacent jokers, and one that's modest, maybe 150 jokers and some consumable types, and then one with everything enabled. I think giving the player all the options of like "gold tags, legendary jokers, balancing jokers, new tarot cards" would just get overwhelming

[vivid seal]

that is true
hotpot has a few jokers that synergize with the mod mechanics itself but they get drowned by the overwhelming amounts of jokers in the modpack

[wispy canopy]

Especially when the intended experience is the one with everything enabled

[umbral pilot]

im the final boss

[full edge]

You can fully hide all those options with the API. All it really does is let you share those presets. That UI only shows up if you click 'customize Playset', which would probably have been worth mentioning, haha

[wind token]

Hi, it’s been a while since I’ve been here, cryptid works at all yet?

[neon urchin]

👀

[umbral pilot]

welcome back flote

still works

[neon urchin]

hi flote, i missed you

[wind token]

Is it still very broken

[full edge]

I do need to implement the lock feature in Glue, though, so you can have more granular control over the shop. Collage has something similar, where it'll show you 2 vouchers, but you can still only buy 1 per ante

[umbral pilot]

I dont think so

seems to work fine

[lavish pike]

😭

[umbral pilot]

why havent you tried my mod yet?

[wind token]

Oh shit, fr?

[vivid seal]

depends

in what way was it not working before?

[wind token]

Or did we move on form the cryptid is bad jokes

[limber oak]

and i added more flair to it

[neon urchin]

i HATE your mod…

[umbral pilot]

you havent used it

[full edge]

cryptid's waters are stragnant enough that the jokes became stale too, i suspect

[neon urchin]

bro astro why so toxic…

[vivid seal]

im afraid cryptid is sometimes the punching bag of the community still

[limber oak]

they stop when it works

[wind token]

Any new ground breaking mods

[lavish pike]

me
"ok im bad an all to your run"
"but you cant lose that bad"

[umbral pilot]

98%

[plush hound]

i love Mayhem

[vivid seal]

proving my point more

[plush hound]

TCG and Blindside

[neon urchin]

never! i only play mods that arent made by you

[plush hound]

Suikalatro

[umbral pilot]

good taste, I like tangents a lot

[wind token]

Awesome

[plush hound]

thanks ethan

[limber oak]

i made the weight 9001 for testing purposes
-# ITS OVER 9000

[full edge]

#1426981585005318246 isn't a mod, but a curated modpack is for sure groundbreaking

[vivid seal]

when is cryptid gonna die so i can beg ruby to steal the ideas from it to entropy

[wind token]

Awesome

[umbral pilot]

uh oh

[scarlet swan]

i tried that but its impossible to play without it crashing

[wispy canopy]

We have a system where you can easily enable Jokers and stuff with settings, so tbh i probably dont need much extra systems in place

[vivid seal]

lua patcher might be a solution to your problems

[full edge]

that makes sense, yeah

[wind token]

When do we get super script mult

[lavish pike]

Actually yeah, +chips/mult is good against my effect

[vivid seal]

it saved my ass so many times from weird ortalab jank

[neon urchin]

leg reveal

[lavish pike]

NOOOO

idk

[wind token]

I don’t like legs

[umbral pilot]

that's a canadian floor

[plush hound]

definitely check out Incognito, a small content mod with such good art and unique jokers

[wind token]

Remove them

[spare geyser]

a lot of the concepts from hotpot seem really cool on like their own but theres so much everywhere all the time its like way too much too fast

[neon urchin]

hey, those are my legs…. though….

[umbral pilot]

yes try incognito

[wind token]

Cut them off

I said so

[plush hound]

thanks ethan

[full edge]

kinda inevitable with how the mod was made

[wind token]

I’ll get back into the balatro modding scene one day

[neon urchin]

how! how could you tell? youre like a magic guy, or super smart

[full edge]

did the event system ever get API'd, btw?

[wind token]

Making mods I mean

[plush hound]

yes actually

[neon urchin]

[plush hound]

lmao

[full edge]

sick

[plush hound]

in the server itself

[umbral pilot]

np girlie now test strontium for me mmk

[full edge]

there's no thread here?

[wind token]

I can’t wait until the new balatro update comes down and breaks everything

[umbral pilot]

we'll just backport the update

[wind token]

Comes down?

[wispy canopy]

OR, alternative option, i could not implement ways to dilute the mod and just let it exist amongst its aaudience

[wind token]

What the fuck me

[plush hound]

https://github.com/SleepyG11/TheEncounterBalatro

[wind token]

Metaprog… remove some letters… mprog

[neon urchin]

this is what cats look like on canada. #realcanadianstuff

[wind token]

For when a man is progant

[full edge]

I would just let All In Jest be all in jest. Banner exists, and when I release Playsets, people that really want to experience it in a different way can share it that way. Offering the intended way is for sure the best approach

[umbral pilot]

make sure you give lovely a go

and strontium but that's not as interesting

[limber oak]

cat duck

[full edge]

I do think it's maybe worth considering how a mod should handle a collection of that size. Not in ways that cut down the number of jokers available in any given run, but maybe there are voucher or booster pack designs that can use that collection size to their benefit

[neon urchin]

mpreg 🫃

[umbral pilot]

typical austrian behavior

[spare geyser]

yeah that was a thing i didn't really like, like dont get me wrong all the different shops were somewhat cool but i think it'd be better and more easily digestible if it was like you get a random one of the shops and the like minigame plinko, mpreg, training and stuff were like relegated to the events instead of being in the shop and being like a mobile game shop

[neon urchin]

austria and canada is the same country

so is london

and some parts of minesoda

[umbral pilot]

fake london 🤢

[neon urchin]

minisota

minnisoda

minnesote

fw

[wispy canopy]

Yk we could implement an unlock condition for a bunch of stuff so people playing for the first time aren't bombarded with 600 new jokers immediately

[buoyant kestrel]

training seems like the type of thing that would do good with just having a button on a joker to do it at any time

instead of it being a shop slot

[plush hound]

oh hell teah

unlock systems are so underutilized in modded Balatro

[buoyant kestrel]

also tutorial needs to be increased

[umbral pilot]

bro

[formal orchid]

%90 people i see just goes unlock all anyway

[umbral pilot]

preggo credit card

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah it isn't even that interesting mechanically

[formal orchid]

idk

[full edge]

Kino 1.0 is going to be so hype for you, Nxkoo

[umbral pilot]

it's beautiful

[plush hound]

😭

[buoyant kestrel]

+1 Joker Slot type shit

[umbral pilot]

absolutely not

[plush hound]

hype hype, I'm also waiting for Blindside release too

[neon urchin]

this thing has a head, 2 legs, and a vengeance

[formal orchid]

anyways goodnight chat

and play my mod

[full edge]

I've added 185 unlock conditions to jokers

It's eh

a lot of work, haha

[wispy canopy]

This is kinda why I'm hesitant to do unlock conditions

[plush hound]

gnnnn

[plush hound]

man fuck those people

[formal orchid]

hey

[umbral pilot]

night nxkino

[plush hound]

it's going to be hype

[buoyant kestrel]

i do unlock conditions but i make sure they're easy as hell to implement

[formal orchid]

im one of those people

[plush hound]

not me

[limber oak]

im so evil chat

[plush hound]

😭

[full edge]

I suspect less people use unlock all than it would seem from checking here, as a lot of people here hop mods a lot or play with a bunch of mods

[west hill]

I’ve always had the opinion that most players won’t stick around on a mod long enough if it has unlock conditions on a lot of stuff

[plush hound]

LOCK UNLOCK ALL BUTTON!!

[full edge]

I do think unlock conditions are part of what can convince you to stay around longer

[umbral pilot]

make a pr to lovely to manually patch it out of the game

[wispy canopy]

I think it might be best to do like "win on x deck" and it unlocks a batch of like 10 jokers

[spare geyser]

i mean i went into achievements instead that way i can still reward people if they do cool/funny things

[formal orchid]

achievements are fire

im glad i added a few

[full edge]

I'd take some inspiration from Smash Bros, honestly, where characters just randomly unlock over time, while also allowing you to do specific things to unlock specific jokers

[buoyant kestrel]

i had a deck that was essentially randomized banner

[plush hound]

on it

[vivid seal]

achievements are fun but they're kinda ass if they're overly specific

[buoyant kestrel]

only 10 jokers for each rarity

(or less)

[main path]

i need to make a cool achievement trophy sprite

[buoyant kestrel]

(if there isn't 10 in the rarity)

[main path]

for whenever i get around to adding achievements to my mod

[buoyant kestrel]

and you start with showman

[main path]

still need to make some jokers that interact with my mod's mechanics

[full edge]

You could add a rare few specific unlock conditions, and besides that just unlock jokers by default after winning a run, or an ante, or whatever

[formal orchid]

i should remake some parts of.my mod entirely

some parts are almost a year old

😔

[spare geyser]

as of rn fortlatro has 20 achievements for next update coming soon™

[wispy canopy]

OR alternative idea: don't use unlock conditions because it might turn people away if they have to unlock everything

[formal orchid]

I will be somewhat stealing some ideas

[full edge]

I think if a mod gets big enough, and if you want people to play it as a stand-alone mod too, rather than just as the inevitable cryptid-add on, unlock conditions are a good way to do that, as they allow you to limit the variety of content a player sees. Again, Kino's got an insane amount of mechanics, compared to plenty of mods of its size, and those mechanics are quite complicated, so for me it's probably a bigger worry how overwhelmed people are, but I think there's also the chance that it helps people not to skip past content. If you see it unlock, you're more likely to at least look at it, sit with it. Unlock all can lead to people ignoring a lot of content in the mod very quickly, and just focusing on what content creator builds they've seen

[wispy canopy]

Man isn't it crazy that I can't make a mod that appeals to every single player

[formal orchid]

is my mod big enough

[spare geyser]

i still have stuff from the oldcalc days in fortlatro lmao

[full edge]

I'd not add unlock conditions because it's a lot of effort for a mod your size. The worry of it being something that turns people off, I suspect, isn't really necessary. I think most people just click unlock all, and you can always add a button to the main menu when the mod is first launched that just says 'click here if you don't want to unlock anything and just have it all'

[formal orchid]

im too lazy to go back and change everything

[full edge]

I haven't kept up with the vault in a while, so I don't know how much content you have, haha

[formal orchid]

i havent kept up much either

[keen knoll]

the joker or

[formal orchid]

been away for like 2-3months i think

[spare geyser]

same i only change stuff when it finally breaks and then im mad that it broke because of something smods changed like 3 updates ago and only now enforced

[buoyant kestrel]

theres a joker called "banner"??

[full edge]

also, unlock conditions are kinda limited, so implementing them means adding a lot of stuff to your code that's only there to account for unlocks. I'm happy i did it but a lot of code feels a bit bloated now, haha

[formal orchid]

well its gonna happen one day

[past lava]

yeah?

[formal orchid]

everythin starting to break appart slowly

[buoyant kestrel]

ah that guy

[glad solar]

this HAS to be modded

not real

[formal orchid]

someone reported one of my enhancements triggering while in the deck

srill havent looked into it

[full edge]

that's due to an optional feature being enabled and the enhancement not accounting for that, i'd assume

[formal orchid]

oh yeah i NEED to update my smods

i keep forgetting

[normal hollow]

downgrade smods

smods alpha supremacy

[formal orchid]

genius

[spare geyser]

we going back to oldcalc with this one

[keen knoll]

yeah

[formal orchid]

i started working on my mod when oldcalc was being left behind

i got lucky

[spare geyser]

Fortlatro used to have the ability to be played in oldcalc or newcalc for like 6 months after oldcalc was dead and buried

[normal hollow]

same

[rain orbit]

[formal orchid]

tomorrow i think i'll look into my old code

and hate myself

[leaden vector]

How did you not know this

[rain orbit]

[spare geyser]

only removed it because newer smods things made this stop working

[buoyant kestrel]

because i do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of the game

[leaden vector]

Booooooooo, fake fan /j

[formal orchid]

i need some fucked up crazy mechanic wirh bugs that will keep me busy for weeks

[spare geyser]

but yeah fortlatro used to have a setting to change everything to oldcalc / newcalc 💀

[forest knoll]

hook basic love2d functions
this is a good idea :)

[formal orchid]

rejected

denied?

[formal orchid]

anyways ima go now

[leaden vector]

Am I tweaking or are those bottom two messages unintelligible

[leaden vector]

Hai k :D

[formal orchid]

-# last one https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325147180280971294

[full edge]

Spellcasting system that uses printer ink as mana, revo

[neon urchin]

k

[formal orchid]

yo wait

thats fire

[pine bone]

highest quality joker art ive made so far

im lowk proud of it

[leaden vector]

I just woke up bro

[formal orchid]

i shall add spellcasting

[full edge]

Good news, my spellcasting API mod also has a way to handle mana as a mechanic. Though I've never tested that

[leaden vector]

Mmmmmm, looks quite nice

[pine bone]

thanks twin

[formal orchid]

i don't really like using API's but i'll check it out

[pine bone]

this was the original

[spare geyser]

but hey we have other stupid stuff like optional speedrun timer

[pine bone]

i draw on mouse do you expect me to know how to make a straight line

[forest knoll]

whatever software you're using should have a line tool

[pine bone]

true

but who cares

[formal orchid]

to get an idea about the concept

[pine bone]

@grok give me a witty comeback to this person

[full edge]

It's pretty specific in how spellcasting works so decent chance it's not your thing, haha. But it's in #1406740128231194644

[leaden vector]

[formal orchid]

noted

[spare geyser]

what if they're using the oldest software known to man

[leaden vector]

This is me 💔

[umbral pilot]

love it :-)

I like the non straight lines

[formal orchid]

this is me tomorrow

[umbral pilot]

I think it adds to the look

makes it unique

[glad solar]

big starspace is watching

[formal orchid]

meth's banner is still wario sucking himself

love it

[pine bone]

"rubiks cube dont look up and to the right"

[umbral pilot]

NO

[formal orchid]

IT IS THO

[pine bone]

can you tell that the lime art was rushed