⚙・modding-general

[reef tangle]

:<

the ante doesnt changeee

[full edge]

king kong king kong king kong

[silk sphinx]

i'm sure that a slot machine joker already exists somewhere, but:
Slot Machine
Played 7s have three one in three chances of giving +7 mult when scored.

average 7 mult on a played 7, but has a chance to do more or less, plus retrigger/Oops! synergy

[unkempt current]

I recommend saying that in the cryptid discord.
There's a low chance anybody is going to help you here.

I remember knowing the solution I just completely forgot about it after I left the server

also cryptid bad why play it

[full edge]

Conceptually fun, but my mod has a joker that just has 7s give +7 mult and that's okay at best, already

[tardy sigil]

why is this not creating rare jokers only

[silk sphinx]

yeah but

insert gamblecore gif here

[full edge]

I think you're fine if you have the effect be stronger if it's only a 1/3 chance on specific cards, haha

[silk sphinx]

well its three instances of the 1/3

theres a chance for 21 mult if you hit the jackpot

(or 0 mult if you don't)

but on average, you get 7 mult per 7

[full edge]

oh, I'm reading the effect incorrectly, yeah. It triggers 3 times per 7, that's definitely stronger, yeah. Would be a fine common, because yeah, with an Oops it becomes a lot stronger

[silk sphinx]

exactly

14 mult on average is pretty good

thats basically a mult card + holo

plus whatever else the card actually has (ie actual mult enhancement)

[full edge]

I mean, you still need to have the right card to trigger it. But yeah, it's basically a +10.5 mult if you're perfectly averagely lucky, haha. Seems like a decent trade for it being only on a single rank

[silk sphinx]

how is that +10.5? 3 * (2/3 * 7) = 2*7 = 14

[tardy sigil]

average would be 1.5/3 not 2/3

[silk sphinx]

????????? what

if the average outcome of 3 * (1/3 * 7) = 7, and Oops! doubles those odds, it would double the average outcome, no?

[silk sphinx]

what's your process here?

[full edge]

oh i mean i for sure did the math wrong, haha, that's inevitable

i mod balatro i can't read

[tardy sigil]

half

[silk sphinx]

.....someone doesnt know what an average is

[tardy sigil]

i havent done probability maths since like year 3

[zinc flare]

Rest in pieces balatroware lmao

[keen knoll]

wow no way

<@&1133519078540185692>

[zinc flare]

Oh great this nerd is back

[keen knoll]

thanms

[silk sphinx]

anyways i mathed it out

[humble rampart]

add the amount of stuff and divide it by the number of things

[silk sphinx]

if we use 66.6% as the probability (as 2/3rds is a repeating decimal, we can't mathematically reach a whole number answer), then its ~13.9, which we can round to 14 since the fraction is funny

[silk sphinx]

right... and in this case?

(2/3 * 7) / 3 outcomes = 14

thats sad

i have a funny cat emoji

anyways

[humble rampart]

14 something

[reef tangle]

im using more than just cryptid so im not 100% sure

its with every boss

[woven crag]

Update cryptid

This has been fixed quite a bit ago iirc

[silk sphinx]

anyways heres Slot Machine.
Slot Machine
Played 7s have three one in three chances of giving +7 mult when scored.

[reef tangle]

sigh i have to update my mods?? wtf man

[silk sphinx]

could be funny if the sprite's slots randomly change every time a 7 is scored

randomly showing Jimbo faces and Gros Michels probably

[keen knoll]

that would need a lotta sprites

[silk sphinx]

eh there is probably an elegant way to do that

[keen knoll]

no

[deft ore]

fym no

[buoyant kestrel]

you have strips for each slot

[deft ore]

theres definitely an elegant way to do it

[buoyant kestrel]

the base sprite has holes in it

scroll strips behind slots

[silk sphinx]

i mean you could just have randomly picked sprites overlaid on the blank card

or what spamton is saying

[deft ore]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[buoyant kestrel]

this way you can do gamba animation

[woven crag]

Just make different interchangeable parts of the sprite that are drawn on top of the base

It definitely is possible

[full edge]

could be done very simply with a draw step and a sprite sheet, yeah

[silk sphinx]

tick tick tick errt

[deft ore]

this is how seals and enhancements and rank-suit pairs work together

[lament sleet]

aw dang it

[silk sphinx]

anyways yeah i think its balanced right

how does it compare to Scholar though

[full edge]

would only be incredibly difficult if you want to have the illusion of the slots being rounded, but that's because you'd have to animate that. But a simple visual like that is very doable

[silk sphinx]

thats the only joker that adds stuff directly when ONE specific rank is played

[deft ore]

so this is 7s give 7 mult on average

[silk sphinx]

which is better: average +7 mult, or +20 chips and +4 mult? (on scored card)

[deft ore]

but affected by prob manip

[silk sphinx]

yup

[deft ore]

i think for the probability bit its prob uncommon

[silk sphinx]

true...

since it scales with oops

[deft ore]

depends on how much probability manipulation you have in your mod

[silk sphinx]

imagine this with oops and lucky enhancements

[silk sphinx]

mod?

oh

i uh

i cant make mods

i do concepts for funsies

but if there WAS a mod...

[deft ore]

in vanilla itd probably need numerical tweaking

[silk sphinx]

this guy would be in it

[full edge]

this would be very easy to set up in jokerforge

[silk sphinx]

in this case, Oops! No Ones would turn the 1/3 to a 1/2, for an expected value of 3 * (1/2 * 7) = 10.5 expected mult per played 7

[buoyant kestrel]

the horrible and dishonourable sprite deformation + pixelization

[silk sphinx]

woe, slightly rotated jimbo be upon ye

[full edge]

I mean, definitely an option, but if you wanna imply roundness, you will have to be very good at figuring out the math to manipulate the sprites properly to make that look acceptable, haha

just set up a joker but realized the context I used for it isn't even in Kino. Time to steal my own code from Cryptid

[gentle citrus]

thanks I hate it

[dense egret]

now we have 45° jokers

[silk sphinx]

bro played a diagonal instead of a straight

[dense egret]

im losing my mind over X° cards

why are they so many 😭

[silk sphinx]

you mean like

exponential mult?

[dense egret]

noo

did you never see 45° tarots?

[silk sphinx]

...no

[gentle citrus]

I have a dumb idea, what if you are able to mod a balatro demo if you have one somehow.

I know something came to my mind after finding out that there is a balatro demos that once appeared

[silk sphinx]

ive never played a mod in my life

[dense egret]

45° inverted¿

[dense egret]

XD

[silk sphinx]

i try to balance my concepts around the base game, so theyre probably really weak if someone were to pick them up and put them into their mod with crazier stuff in them

ie. Slot Machine would be pretty mid in something like cryptid (based on what little i know)

[dense egret]

oh no, vanilla+ mod are pretty popular

[silk sphinx]

anyway can i get some more feedback on this fella

[dense egret]

cryptid is one of the most unbalanced mods

[silk sphinx]

brainstorm-like joker that forces a joker to do stuff before anything else

[full edge]

It's rare for someone to make a mod that's full of content that's weaker than base game balatro, but also, just the more cards you add to the pool, the more chances there are for interactions to emerge that are very strong

[dense egret]

if you have trouble coding the "force trigger" part there are jokers with that type of mechanic

[full edge]

but there's a lot of mods in the vanilla-ish realm

[silk sphinx]

like i said i don't really have the intention of making a mod, i just want to put ideas out that other people can use for their stuff

[spiral monolith]

odd, its only letting me play 3 cards

has anyone experienced this

[dense egret]

mmmmmmmmmmm there are threads where people grab the random ideas of the community and make them into a mod

if you to publish you idea there

[glad solar]

Can someone help me figure out whats going on here? Do I have something outdated?

[full edge]

The VIP joker would need a few pages of additional design notes if you want it to function like Vanilla, because the only library that gives you that functionality lets the mechanic be deeply OP (Cryptid's equivalent of that joker is in their custom rarity above Rares, iirc). Issue with the notion of 'triggering' in Balatro is that it's not actually a gameplay concept so you need to define a lot of rules to make it functional

or you take Cryptid's approach and and just have it do whatever, of course

[keen knoll]

try replacing talisman with cdataman

[glad solar]

Do you have a link?

[full edge]

But as a rule, Balatro doesn't really have the gameplay systems to support messing with timing. And I don't mean code-wise, I just mean as far as its rule system goes

[silk sphinx]

hmm

[keen knoll]

https://github.com/frostice482/cdataman

wait what is this hang on

[silk sphinx]

so what youre saying is its possible but the code needs to be changed first

[keen knoll]

ok yea nvm thats right idk why its called amulet there

[dense egret]

force-trigger does not exist on vanilla balatro, but is real

mods like cryptid and entropy have it

[woven crag]

I mean

you have like

SMODS.score_card

I guess

[full edge]

I mean, the code exists for it, it's a feature in Cryptid. I'm still considering making my own API for it as well. The issue isn't that you need to change code, it's that you need to make additional design choices because there's no such thing as a 'trigger' in Balatro, due to the effects having multiple timings that aren't distinguished, either in the code, or in the way they face the player. For most it's probably fine, but scaling jokers are an issue, for example

[silk sphinx]

what if we just change the way that VIP works? it copies the effects of the leftmost joker and it itself triggers before everything, and then disables that joker for the hand (or something)

eh i'm sure i can figure it out

[full edge]

You'd functionally run into the exact same issues, haha

Oh, I'm sure you'll figure something out. It's definitely possible, it's just that you'd need to spend some time setting up the guard rails for the mechanic

[silk sphinx]

what if there was a joker that changes the chip value of every played card to the average chip value of your entire deck?

that sounds stupidly weak

[dense egret]

the problem here isnt affect other jokers, the problem is the game doesnt have that time.

balatro does this:
"press play" → score the cards → score in hand cards (steel) → score jokers → score editions

[silk sphinx]

what about a joker that scales based on the amounts of chips scored from played cards

also sounds stupid

[full edge]

insanely strong unless it scales very slowly

but I had a joker in Kino that scaled by the chips value of a card if you played a High Card, and that was truly busted

[silk sphinx]

hmm

what about a joker that adds random enhancements to played cards, but drops their chip value to 0 when scored

[hard plank]

play my mod

it has more than just scrabble

[full edge]

That's a fun concept though something I've learned is that players will almost never pick anything that has a clear downside, so you can run the risk of it feeling too weak to see play

does your mod have monkey saying banana, aiko?

[formal wedge]

the boss blinds are super cool

[silk sphinx]

true...

i guess stuntman exists, thats a good example

or like, troubador and merry andy

[full edge]

The issue with downsides, in my experience, is generally that you have to make the upside so strong that players accept the downside, but that can really throw off the balancing. I think Stuntman does work as a downside, but it's also one of the ones that makes the solution quite obvious

[silk sphinx]

Fishing Rod
At the start of a blind, create a random card of X rank and draw it to hand. Rank is determined by the most common card in your deck.

if all cards are equal, the rank is random. otherwise, it always makes your most common rank of card. created cards have random suits, and can have any enhancement, edition, or seal.

not sure how powerful/overpowered it is

[full edge]

decently, but in a fun way, i'd say

[dense egret]

not much tbh, i would say uncommon

like is not free deck-fixing

[silk sphinx]

yeah absolutely not

youll most likely end up with like, a bunch of random trash with useless enhancements

....but five of a kind is common

so, theres that

[full edge]

It'd be a pretty solid card if you're aiming to rely on Baron and you've found an additional king to start it off

[silk sphinx]

true

or cloud nine

actual money printer

[full edge]

Deckfixing is pretty strong, so any source of focused deckfixing is going to be pretty reliant. It's better than DNA if you care about rank, rather than modifications, due to this being consistent without a hand you need to offer up for it

I'd definitely make it a rare

[silk sphinx]

is it better than Certificate?

guaranteed seal vs guaranteed rank

[rugged fable]

I'd rate it on the same level as the other hand enablers. Shortcut, four fingers, smeared joker. Only this one is for 4oak instead of straight flush

[silk sphinx]

oh yeah, synergy with Hologram and Blue Joker too i guess

(antisynergy with Erosion)

[rugged fable]

certificate is probably stronger. Hard to say tho

[full edge]

Seals are generically useful, but control over rank means you're making your deck leaner rather than more random, functionally. Scholar doesn't care which ace is drawn, as long as you have aces. You don't run the risk of cluttering in ways that make it harder to play your desired hand. Which is probably gonna be 5oak

[silk sphinx]

Artificer
Played cards have a 1 in 6 chance to gain the most common enhancement in your deck when scored.

[glad solar]

Yeah installing this seems to break my game even more

[full edge]

Seals are strong but they're usually only really strong if they're benefitting your build, so you're playing way more on luck, as the randomness will keep you from focusing on blue or red seals, and they might not end up on cards you need

[silk sphinx]

(probability could be tweaked)

again, if all enhancements are equal, its random

[rugged fable]

probably uncommon

[full edge]

If you have an open joker slot and money, you always pick this up. Especially when it's played cards instead of scored cards

[silk sphinx]

"when scored"

[keen knoll]

it might be a different one not 100%

[glad solar]

?

[full edge]

Oof I missed that. Point does still stand, though. If you're lucky, you're adding a gold card each hand, and you could get even more.

[silk sphinx]

true

....or you could make your entire deck wild

[rugged fable]

this is definitely slower than midas mask

[silk sphinx]

yes, but mask is only face cards, and also only gold

[rugged fable]

I mean

this is also only going to be one enhancement

[full edge]

My feeling is that at uncommon, this joker would be too frequently picked up because you basically always want to buy it when it spawns and you have the money. It could make enhancement based runs too frequent

[full edge]

Yeah but you do get to choose which one

[rugged fable]

I highly doubt it

[silk sphinx]

but you get to pick which it is

and you can pivot by using tarots

[full edge]

Also, get an oops and your deckfixing to an insane degree

[rugged fable]

I think it being slow is good because you choose the enhancement

and because of the oops synergy

[silk sphinx]

ie tired of gold cards? turn your deck into steel with a chariot or two and boom you are now China after 1978

[rugged fable]

you're forgetting. This is going to make the most prevalent enhancement more prevalent

[silk sphinx]

(i seem to really like making jokers with Oops! synergy huh)

[rugged fable]

past what tarots can fix

once you get the ball rolling you can't stop it

[silk sphinx]

yeah but you can convert early, thats still more flexible than midas

[full edge]

Midas is also a cool design because it's really good, but it's not capable of making you win, just get you the econ to reroll and tarot for a win. It focusing on face cards also limits it's use, especially when a lot of face card synergy wants you to play them, so there's a little trade off

[silk sphinx]

yeah

[silk sphinx]

either play them or discard them (faceless/hit the road)

....there are 3 jokers that reward in-hand faces

[rugged fable]

with this joker, I'm wondering, how many cards should you realistically be converting per ante?

[silk sphinx]

assuming you play 2 hands of 5 cards per blind, and all of them score, thats 30 cards per ante

5 cards converted per ante

worse with smaller hand type builds

[rugged fable]

that's a very unlikely scenario for most 5-card builds

[full edge]

I've got multiple jokers that offer accessible ways to turn cards in your deck into specific enhancements, and I have noted them all as potential balance issues, specifically because they can make it too easy to go for a specific enhancement run. Econ enhancements are kinda the odd one out because they're inherently a temporary measure unless you managed to find bull

[rugged fable]

I could see 2 hands per blind for a flush build. Any other 5 card hand wins in 1 most of the time.

[silk sphinx]

i mean, we can just buff the odds

[rugged fable]

yeah that's why I'm asking how many cards you think should be converted per ante most of the time

[full edge]

But also, this Artificer isn't going to be the core of your build. It's strong due to it basically never being a bad idea to pick it up, while being versatile

[silk sphinx]

i dont really know

[full edge]

It's not game breaking on its own, it might just make pivoting into an enhancement run easy enough at uncommon that it becomes too frequent of a pick up

[silk sphinx]

so, rare??

[rugged fable]

I mean it's a good value generator, but I don't think it being uncommon would be a problem

[full edge]

Kind of the photochad issue where the synergy is fun but the design problem is that it's too easy to make work

[deft ore]

numerical tweaks maybe

[silk sphinx]

it does seem like kind of a weird balance between too good for uncommon but i think its a bit weak for rare

[full edge]

Try it out at uncommon, move it to rare if it turns out strong

[silk sphinx]

fair enough

[deft ore]

imo not a rare-worthy effect

[full edge]

My take is also that rare isn't an about strength as much as it is about variety

[deft ore]

true…

[full edge]

Rares are allowed to be stronger, but they don't have to be. They're often better as more niche choices because they might be key pieces to specific builds

[silk sphinx]

in the same vein, what about a Joker that upgrades Editions of played cards (Foil -> Holo -> Polychrome)?

-# this probably already exists

[rugged fable]

that would probably be rare

[full edge]

rare, and I'd say rare there too not because of how strong it is, but because its design inherently makes the game less random by making it easier for you to get the deck you want, so you don't want it to be present in too many runs

[silk sphinx]

true...

[rugged fable]

my take is that enhancement-based builds are uncommon-worthy. Edition-based builds are rare-worthy

[silk sphinx]

hmm

could negative playing cards ever work?

[rugged fable]

tarots vs spectrals

[rugged fable]

that would be a legendary joker

[silk sphinx]

ie. play or discard 6 cards with 1 negative, etc etc

[full edge]

Smods, the modding framework all mods need to use, has built-in support for negative playing cards

[rugged fable]

that's not what I expected you to mean by negative playing cards

[full edge]

they're a bit of an inherent design issue because they lose any semblance of a downside that the game has, haha

[silk sphinx]

how else would they work??

[full edge]

Making things more guaranteed is a really fun way to feel powerful, but if the way to give you more control over the random aspects of the game are very common themselves, you start guiding players towards more set builds, which you often want to avoid

[silk sphinx]

just exist in hand for free?

[full edge]

That's how they work in the mods that add them, yeah

[rugged fable]

that's how they do work

[silk sphinx]

true....

seems a little boring though

[rugged fable]

you can test it out with debugplus right now

[full edge]

I mean, that's just because the mod framework's added them like that. They're not a vanilla feature

[rugged fable]

yeah you'd have to probably make your own version of the negative edition to change the effect

[full edge]

they could've been designed to work differently. Though it would feel off if they acted too differently from the expectations you have based on jokers and consumables

[rugged fable]

the way SMODS implemented them is the only way that makes sense I think

[silk sphinx]

well the played/discarded selected cards are just another area, you would expect a negative to be able to join that area and increase its capacity like the rest

[rugged fable]

fair, the expectation then would be that it could add to the capacity of both

[full edge]

On that note, though, if you want to be in the realm of vanilla (or imho, gameplay focused design, rather than offering a sandbox to play in), avoid negative playing cards

[silk sphinx]

i feel like negative playing cards literally just sitting in hand for free is boring

[flat crow]

.

[silk sphinx]

its basically just a hand size bonus .-.

[full edge]

no, it's not a hand size bonus, as it only works for the negative ones

[rugged fable]

I mean yeah that's why I said if you touch it at all, it's legendary territory, and even then, you probably still should avoid it

[silk sphinx]

well yes but like, as long as a negative is in your hand, its basically +1 hand size

i probably wont mess with that

[full edge]

It's strong due to the cards only existing to be targetted by jokers. It's insane for any effect that cares about being in your hand. They're basically cards you get to ignore until you find Baron, or seal them, or steel them, etc.

[silk sphinx]

true

[rugged fable]

DNA negative steel red seal kings + baron 🤔

[wooden elk]

my attempt at a 'vanilla-esque' solution for negative playing cards was ghost cards, which can be obtained through a custom spectral

but that wasn't quite the same

[full edge]

Also, being able to death a negative card means you will get plenty of runs with +15 in your deck and that sucks for the user experience of having to look at your hand, and if you get more of 'm, sucks for performance

[silk sphinx]

don't most card-duplicating effects remove negative?

ie. ankh, invisible?

[wooden elk]

ghost cards increase hand selection limit

[rugged fable]

theoretically, tho I'm not sure if SMODS implemented that for negative playing cards

[full edge]

on the note of rarity. Added this joker today (still need to do the art for it). It's very strong, but a bit niche, and the reason it's rare is entirely due to it messing with deck order and removing randomness. If you don't try and break it, it's strong but decent, but it's really easy to use its consistency to start breaking other things.

[gusty quarry]

does the use of quality of life mods prevent you from getting steam achievements?

[silk sphinx]

....what is a Superhero card??

[full edge]

yes, but you can re-enable them in the configurations

[wooden elk]

messing with deck order is a very interesting idea for jokers

[full edge]

One of the too many enhancements my mod adds, haha

[silk sphinx]

i see

[gusty quarry]

oh cool how do i do that? can't really find it anywhere

[silk sphinx]

what about a joker that can move itself between joker slots, and scales based on how many times it moves?

seems stupid

[full edge]

if you click on mods, and then go to config, you'll see the achievements header

[rugged fable]

sounds difficult to explain in a small amount of text

[gusty quarry]

oh alright okay

[rugged fable]

and also not very interesting gameplay-wise

[gusty quarry]

"Randomly shuffles itself, gains +X Chips/Mult every shuffle"

sounds short enough for me

[silk sphinx]

could fuck with the order of your jokers

or blueprint/brainstorm itself instead of the actually cool jokers

[rugged fable]

I mean a joker that does that as a downside works. It being a scaling condition is probably not interesting tho

[full edge]

Could make for a cool and very annoying sticker for a stake to apply

[gusty quarry]

maybe something like the effect of Amber Acorn, but nerfed

[silk sphinx]

ok what if its a blueprint/brainstorm variant that buffs the adjacent joker but randomly moves around instead

[gusty quarry]

"Shuffles all jokers and flips one, gains +X mult per flipped joker"

[silk sphinx]

so it buffs a random joker every hand

[full edge]

I wonder if it'd make for a fun counter 🤔 One that randomizes its location every hand, then ticks down one. I think I could make an interesting boss blind for that

[rugged fable]

you probably don't need it to move to achieve that effect

[silk sphinx]

hmm

[gusty quarry]

i'll just leave it on "bypass" then

[silk sphinx]

true

[gusty quarry]

thx for the help

[silk sphinx]

well i think it still should move

because it would be weird to read "Joker in Nth slot gains XYZ" instead of "Joker to the right gains XYZ"

[full edge]

Brainstorm but with severe ADHD

[rugged fable]

well

"Each hand, copies the effect of a random joker"

[silk sphinx]

so then thats just worse brainstorm

which is marginally worse blueprint

[rugged fable]

I mean, what was your idea?

[full edge]

worse brainstorm would still be a very good joker in most cases

[silk sphinx]

fair...

Muse
Copies the effect of a random joker. Selected joker changes every hand.

[brittle thunder]

There would need to be exceptions to this

[full edge]

three card monte joker that flips two adjacent jokers, then shuffles their order and idk what else it'd do. Maybe it retriggers the rightmost one. I just like the idea of it visually shuffling it and you having to follow it, haha

[silk sphinx]

obviously

[rugged fable]

luckily every joker has a variable that says whether it is blueprint compatible

[silk sphinx]

all the jokers that are incompatible with brainstorm and blueprint would be ignored by Muse

Muse simply would not try to copy those

[brittle thunder]

Well also it would need to not become most food jokers

[silk sphinx]

ie Muse never lands on Oops

[rugged fable]

no?

[silk sphinx]

why? Brainstorm and Blueprint can still copy those

[full edge]

Playing with joker positioning is fun design space, though. Feel like there's more room to mess with there, still

it's random joker you own, right, not any joker from the collection?

[silk sphinx]

joker that you can't manually move and shifts 1 position to the right every hand, gains better buffs the further right it is

[brittle thunder]

Oh wait I was under the assumption you meant the whole collection

[silk sphinx]

random joker owned

[brittle thunder]

Oh ok then

So how would it tell you what's compatible or not

[silk sphinx]

....there's an indicator

[brittle thunder]

Right but which joker is it selecting

[silk sphinx]

Bluestorm and Brainprint have the,

[full edge]

I almost have that one, though you still move it yourself. Hidden effect of this is that it leaves if you can't pay more than once

[silk sphinx]

its random, and changes at the start of scoring, you don't get to know

[brittle thunder]

No but I mean

Brainstorm can tell you what's compatible

[silk sphinx]

yeah this tells you too

[brittle thunder]

Because it's specifically pointing at one joker

[brittle thunder]

Right but how do you know which joker it's referring to

[rugged fable]

do you list off in the description the possible targets?

[full edge]

Oh, I should finish my api mod that adds marks into the joker UI for mechanical compatibility

[silk sphinx]

surely youll be able to figure it out based on what happens when it triggers

[brittle thunder]

That's not a very fair assumption

[silk sphinx]

alright fine lets give the Muse an indicator

no idea how that will work

"Copying: xyz joker"

[rugged fable]

there's probably some serious UI work to list off all the copyable jokers and mark which one is selected

[full edge]

Not a smooth way of doing that unless you add a ui system for it, honestly

[rugged fable]

or just list the selected one but that's incomplete

it should be possible to put the selected joker where "compatible" normally goes

[full edge]

I've got a system that's half finished that adds coloured dot indicators below the joker's white text box to show mechanical compat with blueprint and modded mechanics, specifically because it's a common issue, haha

[rugged fable]

honestly that's fair

[silk sphinx]

we finally have Blueprint, Worse Blueprint, and Worse Brainstorm

[humble rampart]

brainstorm is already worse blueprint

weve devolved

[brittle thunder]

It's true

[silk sphinx]

right, Muse is worse Brainstorm

[brittle thunder]

Well now we need a worse Muse

[silk sphinx]

....i could rebrand Muse into The Thinker, that would be funny

[humble rampart]

blueprint

[silk sphinx]

guy who thinks forever vs 1 napkin

[brittle thunder]

What

[humble rampart]

🧠

[brittle thunder]

Oh lol

[full edge]

it'd ideally look like this when I'm finished with it, but UI stuff always gets done in slow increments over the course of weeks if not months because I truly don't enjoy doing it, haha. The blue dot in this case would indicate blueprint compat, purple would be value manipulation compatibility, and green would be for forcetriggers

[silk sphinx]

i see

someone likes films huh

[full edge]

it's the premise of the mod, yeah, haha

[humble rampart]

what gave you that impression

[gusty quarry]

so uh, i started a run with some mods and out of nowhere my hands no longer hand

what is going on

[brittle thunder]

I'd love to do something similar but with albums

Just cause I'm a music snob

[humble rampart]

theres an infinite number of possible causes for this

[full edge]

you'd only be the 12th person to give it a shot 😛 At some point someone has to make it work, haha

[humble rampart]

i have a bunch of music jokers but its not a music mod im just a nerd

[gusty quarry]

only mod I have currently is banner cause I wanted to f around with it

[full edge]

I think 'Balatro Goes Kino but for music' gets discussed as a concept more than 'Balatro Goes Kino' does, honestly 😛

[brittle thunder]

Well I'm gonna do it anyways

[full edge]

I mean, definitely go for it

[brittle thunder]

I wanna do my own twist on it

[humble rampart]

i have this one of one song i like

[humble rampart]

easier to listen to a song than watch a movie

[brittle thunder]

Ironically right now I'm listening to a song named after a movie

True

not me doing movie soundtracks muahahaha

[full edge]

I don't want to discourage anything, just funny how often it gets pitched, haha. The trick to making a mod like Kino is that you don't need snobbery, you need autistic obsession to get the mod finished, haha. There's a reason why most mods that get a lot of support from their devs aren't themed, I reckon

If your current interests shift, you can just add movie jokers to your non-themed mod. But if your entire mod is yugioh cards, you better be sure you're still very into coming up with yugioh ideas 6 months later, haha

[humble rampart]

did inception get in yet

i like inception

[full edge]

I'm adding it for 1.0, yeah. Still playtesting it because it's a very mechanically intense joker so I need to figure out whether it's fun enough to warrant it being so complicated, haha

It's effect is decently understandable, but its tied to two specific counters based around debuffing your jokers, and I think that might get a bit overwhelming

[wanton rapids]

should probably also have sleep counter in the info queue

[brittle thunder]

What the heck is that fourth one at the bottom

Is that The Simpsons Movie or something

[full edge]

It did, but I somehow broke it. Probably accidentally added a character to the info queue thingy, haha

That's a Killer Klown from Outer Space

it's this guy

[brittle thunder]

Ooooh

[wanton rapids]

does it require room?

also when does it trigger

[woven crag]

kid named negative

[full edge]

When you select a blind. Good point, I nede to add that. And doesn't require room, which I've opted to leave out due it creating negative things

[wanton rapids]

oh i didnt read the word negative

[woven crag]

no dark_edition on negative

🥀

[wanton rapids]

isn't it usually written Negative in orange (or dark_edition)

[woven crag]

and not capitalized

[woven crag]

its an edition so dark_edition

[humble rampart]

devil's advocate, $3 of sell value of what

[wanton rapids]

yeah you could probably just make it "its sell value"

[full edge]

Yeah, but I've not done my new round of proofreading and rewriting descriptions yet, haha. There's a lot of bad formatting or text in Kino atm, sadly

[rugged fable]

is it at least all in a localization file?

[brittle thunder]

Trying to think of some really stupid movies you could include...

[woven crag]

morbius

[brittle thunder]

Shaun of the Dead

[humble rampart]

When Blind is selected, destroy a random joker and create a negative planet for every $3 of its sell value

[full edge]

Yeah, it's definitely doable to fix. I was working as a copywriter and translator for most of its dev time so I rarely felt like doing more work in my free time, as bad as that sounds, haha

[humble rampart]

nobody

[brittle thunder]

Nobody?

What's that

[humble rampart]

the movie with the saul goodman actor

foegot his name

[brittle thunder]

Bob Odenkirk

[humble rampart]

bob blob

[brittle thunder]

Bogos binted?

[full edge]

Morbius is in there with one of my worst joker arts ❤️

[brittle thunder]

Honestly it deserves it

[woven crag]

this is just worse vampire

😭

[humble rampart]

wait is pulp fiction in there

[woven crag]

also why is drain keyword there

[brittle thunder]

And that's why it fits so well

[full edge]

Shaun of the Dead isn't in there yet. I've got very few zombie movies, as I struggled to come up with effects for them. I already have too many destroy effects, haha

[woven crag]

when drain isnt in the description

[brittle thunder]

Let's see how about...

[wanton rapids]

zombie mechanic that converts jokers into +10 mult or something basic like that...

[brittle thunder]

I mean you gotta have The Room

[full edge]

Still figuring out how I want drain-debuff effects to be formatted. The drain effect is just applied to every vampire-joker atm, though the debuff effect is a drain trigger

[humble rampart]

an effect i dont see a lot is scaling based off of card destruction. i have a guy that gains a discard for every 4 (?) cards destroyed

i forgot the number probably 5

[full edge]

I have multiple jokers that care about it! Problem is that I leaned too hard into that design space early on, and it's one that becomes a lot stronger if you add too much support

[full edge]

yup

[humble rampart]

schnice

[rare shell]

peak fiction

[humble rampart]

what in gods name is that fucking thing above it

[brittle thunder]

I don't really get the reference of that ability but that's cool

[full edge]

It's mechanically trying to get you to overdose

[rare shell]

is that ip man

[full edge]

No, that's Pinocchio

[humble rampart]

oh i hate that

[rare shell]

i was about to have a stroke

[brittle thunder]

Now wait is that the new one or the old one

[full edge]

me too ❤️

[rare shell]

how do you code japanese imperialism as a game mechanic

[worn rain]

wsg chat

[humble rampart]

rare that does something with commons

[brittle thunder]

Ask Japan

[full edge]

the old one because its poster was a nightmare to try and convert, compared to the new one, haha

[humble rampart]

why are you bald

[rare shell]

wait

which pinnochio

(year wise)

[worn rain]

i said that id turn my pfp bald if i didnt place first place in the game jam i entered

[humble rampart]

what place did you end in

[worn rain]

there was no chance id place first i jus thought it was funny

[brittle thunder]

Now we need the Del Toro Pinocchio in there

[worn rain]

42nd

[humble rampart]

damn

a bit off

[worn rain]

out of 230

decent enough for me

[rare shell]

did they not like edward robinsoncraft

[worn rain]

shockingly enough i do not extend the edward robinson bit out to my game developments

[full edge]

Movie is about drug abuse, and as I've chosen to interpret Perkeo as a stoner, most drug related jokers interact with consumables in some way. Big scene in Pulp Fiction is a heroin overdose. Thematically, it's trying to get you to use as many consumables as you can before you overdose and break

[rare shell]

listen i know this but i have to engage in the bit here

[brittle thunder]

Ah I see

[humble rampart]

i mean id say its about violence

[full edge]

2022 and 1940. I do have design notes for 3 other ones so there's a full pinocchio archetype

[humble rampart]

but thats way general

[silk sphinx]

is The Princess Bride here?

[humble rampart]

the movie in spanish is called violent times fun fact

[brittle thunder]

Father when can I go off and be on my oowwwn

[hard plank]

can people play my mod already

[rare shell]

ice im still waiting for my equestria girls feature

[humble rampart]

no ayocorey

[hard plank]

please

[rare shell]

aikoyori

[humble rampart]

no aioucore

[full edge]

yup

[rare shell]

can people play aikoyori's mod already

[silk sphinx]

amazing

[hard plank]

that's not even my name

[brittle thunder]

Inconceivable!

[humble rampart]

no aikokorey

[silk sphinx]

amino Yorick

[hard plank]

i give up

go play the mod anyway

[rare shell]

eye core yolky

[humble rampart]

does it change per hand

i havent seen it

[hard plank]

#1326135270759993364

[full edge]

oh for sure more broad than just about drug abuse, yeah

[rare shell]

aye, kuh yorky

[silk sphinx]

god forbid a film have more than one theme

[humble rampart]

no annie are you okay

[full edge]

nope, always Hearts. And go watch it it's an amazing movie

[wanton rapids]

if your hand has more cards than hand size do you still draw 2?

like if you had 10/8 and played a high card

[brittle thunder]

What happened to her?

[humble rampart]

can i critisize the wording then

[brittle thunder]

The Princess Bride is a really good movie

[humble rampart]

if you're going for vanilla wording anyways theres ppl that hate that

[full edge]

films should have only one theme so I can turn them into jokers more easily

[hard plank]

god forbid i try to make my mod have plays

[rare shell]

eye co. yoker

[humble rampart]

i love it personally

[rare shell]

ico hockey

ice hockey

:brilliant:

[brittle thunder]

Okay okay enough heckling of the movie jokers man

It's time to start making my own thing

[humble rampart]

the theme of pulp fiction is that firearm safety is important

[full edge]

yup. Probably the best way to use it, though I'm thinking of reworking it because it kinda sucks to lose cards on your next draw

[silk sphinx]

Aye coal ochre

[rare shell]

ice are you going to do harold and the purple crayon

[humble rampart]

god the car scene is still so fucking good

[hard plank]

do you want this as a phone

[rare shell]

the cinematic blockbuster

[humble rampart]

no ayuwoki

[brittle thunder]

The theme of pulp fiction is burgers

[wanton rapids]

blockbuster like from Blockbuster: Value Manipulation

[rare shell]

actually what is the most recent movie released thats in kino

[full edge]

oh for sure

[hard plank]

minecraft

i love Minecraft

[full edge]

Weapons or Superman, I think? I'd need to check

[rare shell]

wait you put superman in

incredibly based

[hard plank]

guys but still go play my not mid mod

[rare shell]

ah! color! eeee!

[rare shell]

code my suggestions

[full edge]

yup

[rare shell]

thats a really good art

[wanton rapids]

does the xvalues apply to the charge gain??

[rare shell]

did you end up respriting all the old ones

that needed it

[gentle citrus]

guess what I'm doing at the moment in the meantime. (Drac-amet aside but a one off-side)

[hard plank]

oh my god

I'm having ptsd

[brittle thunder]

Most played hand?

[full edge]

not sure if it's live actually, I added like 10 new jokers on Halloween, but outside of that, I haven't pushed many jokers in the last 4 months. Mostly just been working on systems

[wanton rapids]

its a reimplementation of a cut vanilla deck that uses metaprogression

[humble rampart]

balalo doesnt address the player in 2nd person a lot (or even whatsoever i think) so i think "If played hand contains a scoring Heart draw 2 more cards after scoring"

[full edge]

There's new ones that need it because my sprite work for them is shit, but yeah, only joker I've got in the dev branch of the mod rn without proper art is the 1978 Superman

[humble rampart]

roguelite

[brittle thunder]

Don't forget you still need to add director synergy

[humble rampart]

oh no

[keen knoll]

address me

[hard plank]

please scott i need this

[humble rampart]

go away candycane

[hard plank]

my mod kinda playerless

[keen knoll]

what did i do :(

[humble rampart]

no it aint mf

[wanton rapids]

...

[hard plank]

mf???

[full edge]

Oh, that's a good one. I have that in my style doc notes that I've set up but not yet applied. I keep putting 'you' in because I keep phrasing everything like it's a Legends of Runeterra card in my head when I'm designing the effects

[hard plank]

my mod would never reach the heights that more fluff did

[wanton rapids]

this is untrue

[silk sphinx]

at least bro has a mod

[hard plank]

roffle played more fluff

[full edge]

Decided not to add that as a separate system, but I think I made director synergy work like actor synergy in the halloween patch? I'mnot sure

[wanton rapids]

roffle played oldfluff so i dont count it

[humble rampart]

i never said that

[brittle thunder]

Well then at the least make the Bacon deck not say that

[hard plank]

you said it ain't mf

[humble rampart]

you're not playerless

[brittle thunder]

even if admittedly I feel like director synergy would be the most important part of the synergy stuff

[humble rampart]

not being playerless doesnt mean you're morefluff

i never said anything bout morefluff

[brittle thunder]

Cause no offense but some of the only actors that really work with your actor synergy is Brad Pitt and DiCaprio

[gentle citrus]

yeah that's right, I'm bringing stuff from old content of balatro into the current version as a mod extension.

[hard plank]

mf = more fluff

[gentle citrus]

which means

[hard plank]

please do not bring old content 🙏😭

i beg

[full edge]

I will, I will, haha. I wanna go over all the text in the mod soon and treat it like a work project, so I actually can try and get the incorrect descriptions, grammar and spelling errors, and other issues out.

[gentle citrus]

why not? (just curious)

thought woudl be interesting to experiment

[humble rampart]

go away stinky

[hard plank]

they are all ass

[wanton rapids]

braided deck was cut because it leads to samey runs

theres no reason to play any other hands

[hard plank]

do you love how steel cards are

[brittle thunder]

Yeah I feel like Balatro as a concept just wouldn't really work with Vampire Survivor type stuff

[hard plank]

X1.5 mult when played on a specific hand

[humble rampart]

love vamp survorgor

jimbo got me my first 1million gold run

[brittle thunder]

I never played Vampire but I did play Desktop Survivor 98

And that was pretty fun

[hard plank]

glass cards +4 mult when held in hand

[brittle thunder]

I just don't really like the whole "every game you play you get stronger"

[humble rampart]

that doesnt sound that good

[brittle thunder]

Because it makes it feel like I'm not actually improving

[keen knoll]

i love eating glass

[brittle thunder]

It feels like I'm just making the game easier

[full edge]

I did want director synergy to be a bigger thing but the issue I had with it is that most directors don't have enough notable movies for it to make sense as a mechanic, and the explicit synergies make it so run variety discouraged. But I'm at 360 jokers at the moment, and there's maybe 5 directors that have a notable amount of movies in the mod, outside of those that directed every entry in a franchise

[hard plank]

i need more people to experience my stupid mod

[humble rampart]

i never got that i just like having fun

idc about improving

[brittle thunder]

Well I do

[humble rampart]

no akokoki

[keen knoll]

oh same!!

[hard plank]

play my mod....

[humble rampart]

fl tudo

[brittle thunder]

That's not the games fault that I want something it's not offering

If anything that's my fault for being picky

[humble rampart]

no a o o i

[keen knoll]

why does this sound like japanese

sorta

[humble rampart]

what are you talking about

[gentle citrus]

I see.

Though I'd thought maybe there's something about this to be fully restored in a way where it somehow hits different. I don't know nor I ever expeirenced it since I don't have the demos until now. and figured as such on how people would play this demo deck with an interesting gimmick where you used your most played hand in general.

[brittle thunder]

Yeah what

[gentle citrus]

Although maybe there'd be one more suprised but eh no clue how to make it more interesting.

[hard plank]

the demos kinda sucked I'm not gonna lie

at least the one version i downloaded

[full edge]

A mod that just restores old content would be cool. I'd definitely not want it to be part of a mod that also offers its own content, because oof, the beta content was removed for good reasons

[hard plank]

imagine balatro but you only have 2 shop slots

+1 voucher

[full edge]

inb4 we start whining about cryptid's nostalgic blinds again

[hard plank]

no booster packs

[pastel surge]

no boosters?

so do spectral cards just not exist then or

[hard plank]

it just

didn't exist lmao

[wanton rapids]

were tarots or planets in the shop

[hard plank]

yes

[wanton rapids]

what if we called an arcana pack a tarot reading

[hard plank]

but there's this thing called tarot readings

[humble rampart]

what if we didnt

[wanton rapids]

okay done

[hard plank]

here is proof

[wanton rapids]

wtf does the enhanced cards button do

[hard plank]

it just shows the collection

[wanton rapids]

oh okay

[silk sphinx]

what if jokers could have enhancements

[hard plank]

note the win ante

[hard plank]

no

[silk sphinx]

steel steel joker

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah the game went to ante 10

[hard plank]

technically not possible

[humble rampart]

what does this solve

[silk sphinx]

"what if"

[hard plank]

technically not possible

[wanton rapids]

nothing thats why thunk changed it

[gentle citrus]

I mean yeah, although I'm not just only going to add like content from demos as I also planned maybe to bring back this too.

[humble rampart]

worse editions

[pastel surge]

someone
anyone
PLEASE make a remix of raise up your bat using balatro sound effects and call it raise up your mult
it would be so fucking funny

[humble rampart]

you can achieve this

be the change you want to see

fl studio is not that hard

[full edge]

Jokers don't need editions when #1406740128231194644 Counters ™ already exist

[wanton rapids]

you dont even need fl studio you could do it in audacity (DO NOT DO IT IN AUDACITY)

[humble rampart]

the fl propaganda will continue until morale improves

[gentle citrus]

or if you want to go full creative you can basically recreate the balatro theme with the correct instruments. And rearrange it to Raise up your bat but in the style of balatro's theme

[silk sphinx]

me when i use garageband because mac and no money

[humble rampart]

god i hate garageband

[worn rain]

its simply too easy

[silk sphinx]

true....

[pastel surge]

shit.

[worn rain]

dont pay for it what r u insane?

[humble rampart]

wow if only there was a way to get free things on the internet

oh well

[hard plank]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dHzPprVPGAQ

[humble rampart]

im not clikcing that

[hard plank]

I'm done vro

[hard plank]

what if i am insane

[humble rampart]

you waste a bunch of money

[worn rain]

you're you it makes sense

0 doler paid

[humble rampart]

0 dollar fl studio will rise

[worn rain]

what if i make an eddy rob balatro christmas mix

[humble rampart]

i only understand those words individually

[tardy sigil]

just realised i only have 11 rare jokers in my 92ish jokers so far

fuck

[humble rampart]

modpack glue or w/e

[tardy sigil]

what

[keen knoll]

fruity

[tardy sigil]

what does it do

[lone arrow]

Atp I thing imma just alt f4

[tardy sigil]

I FOCKIN LUV NUMBERSLOP

[rain orbit]

They can pay for it if they want, it comes with free lifetime updates and everything automatically works aside from what your edition doesn't include

It's a daw not a video game

[storm forum]

...and not "abort" to force finish?

[rain orbit]

The prices are somewhat reasonable

[wooden elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1398003796419936397/1446221239768318125/Balatro_2025-12-04_14-26-36.mp4?ex=693331fd&is=6931e07d&hm=fa7f017703e5a00a7c1b665c515dcfaff6d63e08b81af65e32a7f8f14e389f8d&
Time Bomb (+20 mult after every 10th card scored)

[humble rampart]

i think you won already

[random chasm]

oh hey

[gentle citrus]

this is an eye-opening when I played the oldest demo of balatro. makes me even wonder if there is a way to mod demo verisons espeically this.

[worn rain]

nah fl crashes all the time regardless of paying for it

[gentle citrus]

just something I want to test out not that this relates to modding but I kinda gotten wondering

[exotic belfry]

I think @hardy brook would be the person to talk to about that

[humble rampart]

the slight inconvenience of having to update every once in a while for slightly more features is not worth the hundreds of dollars

[exotic belfry]

They've done a shit ton of stuff involving the demo builds

[gentle citrus]

I'm all ears for it cause I need to know all of the stuff and whatever is unused or not. but yeah

also the debuff was a lot different now looking at it compared to the one we have now. it's oddly interesign if any.

[rugged fable]

did it still function the same mechanically?

[tardy sigil]

wow this ui sucks

glad he changed it

[gentle citrus]

Honestly, that I have to agree at some point cause it felt small somehow.

or atleast

[tardy sigil]

yeah its all squished and cramped

[gentle citrus]

Also I just encountered this.

which is oddly cool to see that this is sudden when I started a boss blind

the fool just disables the boss blind...

[dapper helm]

this goes crazy

[gentle citrus]

Honestly or a sudden tarot with a boss blind in progress. it makes sense. actually making an option if you want to like disable effect for once.

oh my god I just realized the ante max is 10.

[humble rampart]

chicot stay losing

[fathom gust]

blot’s kinda cool
pebble’s kinda cool

[humble rampart]

what

[gentle citrus]

apperently glass card doesn't break in this one.

[woven crag]

glass is really bad steel

😭

[gentle citrus]

Welp, the run was over but I had an interesting experience on the first demo thing.

[rain orbit]

That's just you

[worn rain]

It's really not lmao, I've worked with several people who've said the same sht

[rain orbit]

I guess I'm just built different

🔥

[humble rampart]

no it is

fl never crashes on me

[rain orbit]

It's worth it to buy it but it's also worth it to crack it

[humble rampart]

not worth buying at all

use that money on groceries

[rain orbit]

It's not worth buying anything if it makes you not able to buy necessities

[humble rampart]

its not worth even to splurge

[rain orbit]

Fl is to be used as a professional music and sound design platform, hence why it's so expensive

It's worth it if you can get your money's worth

[humble rampart]

yeah but i can get it for free at like barely any downside

[rain orbit]

Else it's better to pirate or just buy a lower edition

[gentle citrus]

does anyone have a save file that is %100 completted?

[humble rampart]

or get the highest edition free

[rain orbit]

The pirated version is worth it but I don't remember if all plugins work properly and if save files from one version carry to another cracked one

[humble rampart]

they do

[hard plank]

im bad at this

[forest knoll]

reaper is a one time purchase, no reason for any software to be a fuckin subscription

[pastel surge]

tiny ass shop

[rain orbit]

Fl studio is a one time purchase

[humble rampart]

fl isnt a subscription

its just a bad use of money

[rain orbit]

Idk what reaper is

[humble rampart]

ive never heard of reaper

[wanton rapids]

reaper is nice

[forest knoll]

could've sworn fl studio was a subscription

[humble rampart]

it aint

[hard plank]

fl cloud

[humble rampart]

thats ass

no ones using that ever

[woven crag]

thats like a sort of pepper i think

[rain orbit]

There's editions of fl that unlocks more things for you depending on said edition, maybe you confused that for a subscription

[hard plank]

FL has subscription

[tardy sigil]

that main lead needs some work

[humble rampart]

which again you can just get the best one for free at zero downside

also get serum

serum's good

[rain orbit]

I heard you the first time

I'm not begging you to support the already rich company

[humble rampart]

god i love free shit

[storm forum]

...remind me - which mod had the Jokers form a landscape when held in the right order? 🤔

[woven crag]

paperback

iirc

suit xmult jokers

[full edge]

Trying to come up with an effect for Man Of Steel. What if treats men like steel cards? 'Each King held in hand gives X1.5 Mult'. Is that anything?

[woven crag]

balatrue

[hard plank]

if you spell man make all the cards steel

[woven crag]

seems like it would be very niche outside of long endless runs with like mime or something

[woven crag]

and you would also need a lot of hand size or just keep running into the serpent

[storm forum]

...and what of Jacks?

[random chasm]

then it would be better baron

[storm forum]

Sidegrade to Baron by targeting Jacks instead.

[woven crag]

hit the baron

[full edge]

jacks are boys. Kings are real men 💪

[woven crag]

i cant believe they added toxic masculinity to balala

[worn rain]

😭

[woven crag]

🤯

[storm forum]

Had a If played hand contains a straight, increase rank of all played cards by 1. thought too.

[keen knoll]

are queens real women

[lavish pike]

Yeah

[hard plank]

i

[keen knoll]

u

[hard plank]

I'm going to sleep ts makes me mad

[lavish pike]

Ok

Gn

Ima go too

[hardy brook]

I’m here. What’s up

[hardy brook]

Wdym mod demo versions? Like stuff from old versions into modern or mod the actual beta versions of the game?

And what version is that?

[hardy brook]

Fun fact, this is just giving you a primitive booster pack

Everything involving tarot reading and Planetarium were overwritten with booster pack content

[hardy brook]

This effect then went to steel 1:1 then replaced with our xmult glass

[full edge]

Time to see how broken this ends up being

[keen knoll]

$1

[full edge]

yeah no this gets you comfortably up to ante 4 without buying anything else

[spiral monolith]

blows you up

with MIND

[static shale]

guys i think bunco is broken

keeps crashing my game, mentions some "bad lovely patch"

[rustic hull]

Is the BossBlindBeat mod out of commission? It keeps crashing on me when I try checking boss blinds

[keen knoll]

use a good lovely patch to cancel it out

[young timber]

Bro i got my discord checkpoint thing, then i accidentally cancelled it bro

i wanted to see my info :(

[worn rain]

There's a button for it on pc

It's next to ur inbox

[forest knoll]

on mobile you should be able to access it in the tab with all the settings and profile stuff and whatnot

[young timber]

tyy

[full edge]

Planned out the final jokers I'm adding to Kino and I still feel like I'm missing a bunch of stuff I should be including. I'd go insane, though, if I went for more than 375 jokers

I'm watching the Beekeeper though, and I now have to stop myself from turning the Cryptid cross-mod exotic Bee movie joker into a little archetype based around jokers that create honeycomb jokers

[winged prism]

You actually need to use another bad lovely patch so they cancel each other out

Using good lovely patch with a bad one will just corrupt it

[keen knoll]

ah ok

[winged prism]

You could do that but personally I find patches rather lovely

Sorry

[woven crag]

okay

balatro modding is now not real anymore

[winged prism]

War is over

Me when I want to mod the game but the engine is hard-coded to only accept astro-inserts

[hardy brook]

We’re going to war?

Who we warring with, Balatro Mod channel?

[buoyant kestrel]

Necromancy where you directly partition off some of your lifeforce to put in a body

and you can just move bodies like this

though you would want to repair it first if its from a grave or something

[sullen wing]

I fumbled

a gold stake black deck win

Now i wanna cry

[quartz socket]

This is mean dont do that

[hardy brook]

How is everyone btw

I'm gonna be working more on my remake of 0.9.2 soon

[sullen wing]

I hate December

And living

And 3rd of December

And 4th of December

And December

[hardy brook]

I love december, why do you hate december?

[sullen wing]

And 2025

[hardy brook]

I hate commercial christmas but that's about it other than tons of snow

[sullen wing]

I love Christmas

Merry Christmas

[hardy brook]

Heaven and I having literally the exact opposite reactions

[sullen wing]

Who doesn’t like Christmas

[hardy brook]

me

I hate commercial christmas

[sullen wing]

Are you not feeling joyful

[sullen wing]

Ah

Yeah everyone hates that tho

[hardy brook]

I also haven't been on that good of terms with my extended family tbh

[sullen wing]

Christmas is about hot chocolate and marshmallows for me that’s about it

[hardy brook]

.

You can have that literally any day though

[hardy brook]

so kinda dreading it

[sullen wing]

It tastes different in Christmas

[sullen wing]

Owwww

[hardy brook]

yeah

[sullen wing]

you’re invited to my house for Christmas

[hardy brook]

Thanks, but I'm kinda forced to go since I'm part of secret santa

[sullen wing]

We can have hot chocolate and marshmallows and if you’re lucky enough maybe cookies

[hardy brook]

I barely talk to my dad's side of the family outside of my grandfather and his brother after stuff that happened years ago.
I stopped talking to my one cousin because he's a horrible pet owner and i stopped talking to my one other cousin because they kept going on about politics after I told them to stop

They say it wasn't intentional but I would call the first cousin a murderer imo with what happened to the pets

that's how bad it is tbh

I'll be real, I'm pretty sure I'm like second to least favorite or least favorite to my extended family though so it's not like it matters

[sullen wing]

Damn

[hardy brook]

Could be my warped perspective though, idk

[sullen wing]

Deer lion situation

[hardy brook]

This year, Christmas is just to say hello, get my secret santa present, and then leave as soon as possible

[sullen wing]

Some people are bad in showing emotions

[hardy brook]

I have better events to celebrate this month anyways

[sullen wing]

You get presents for Christmas?😭

[hardy brook]

Again, secret santa

[buoyant kestrel]

to use in the necromancy spells

[hardy brook]

oh neat

[hardy brook]

Stuff I can celebrate over Christmas:

• My week of vacation from work
• My mom's birthday
• My Birthday
• New Years

[sullen wing]

Happy birthday shinku

To your mom too(respectfully)

[hardy brook]

Thanks, but it's not for another 25.5 days (since there's only like 6 hours left in the day for me)

for mine

and her's is another like 10 days

[sullen wing]

Early birthdays

[hardy brook]

I doubt anyone would do it but in case anyone on my timeline wanted to do a drawing of Shinku for my birthday, i put the post out there.

[cinder arrow]

I just made a joker using joker forge, can somebody please assist me into importing it into the game? (idk what I'm doing )

[sullen wing]

Put the fries in the bag

[cinder arrow]

[sullen wing]

Did joker forge give you a folder

[cinder arrow]

no. it gave me the individual joker download

[sullen wing]

So 1 lua file

Can you show me what you have

[cinder arrow]

wait, i think i found the button to press

uno momento

nvm, didnt work. are you available to call to assist me in this?

[sullen wing]

No sorry

[cinder arrow]

damn. I got the zip file of my modded stuff, unzipped it, and put the folder into the mods folder like I would any other mod

but it doesn't appear in the collections tab like the others do

[dire meadow]

oh god what happened to the gif

[buoyant kestrel]

the void that was slowly overridden:

[dire meadow]

the primordial void the gifs DON'T want you to know about

[exotic tree]

Oh hey it Gaim

What's the question mark for

[dire meadow]

what you talking about man

[exotic tree]

Don't call me man

But also you posted a gif from Kamen Rider Gaim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Gaim

[dire meadow]

soggy :(

[honest sluice]

I have a funny idea

For an edition

Double negative: +2 joker slots. Looks exactly the same as the editionless joker and doesn't make a special noise when appearing

And costs the same too!

[rain orbit]

Charitable Rekoj, Chaste Rekoj, Patient Rekoj, Temperate Rejok
Effect: Played cards with Diamond suit lower score requirement by 3% when scored, Played cards with Heart suit lower score requirement by 3% when scored, Played cards with Spade suit lower score requirement by 3% when scored, Played cards with Club suit lower score requirement by 3% when scored
Cost: $3 (increases by $1 each round)
Rarity: Uncommon
Unlock requirement: Win a run with only common Jokers
Type: Effect
Act: Independent

Same shit as the sinful jokers but rekoj

[honest zephyr]

did somebody already make a pvz mod for balatro yet

i wanna jump to the opportunity

Sunflower
Played cards have a 1 in 3 chance to give $1

[limber oak]

worse business card but works on non-faces

just run business + pareidolia

[rain orbit]

Holy shit I posted it in the wrong channel

[limber oak]

and you got yourself more money that way (even more with dice)

[rain orbit]

Mad world build

[honest zephyr]

what if i make it.... 2 dollar

[limber oak]

business card gives 2 dollars

with better odds

[rain orbit]

Rich

[honest zephyr]

i was originally gonna have it do some shit like "Earn $5 at end of round"

[limber oak]

1 in 3 to earn 10$ at end of round

there

[honest zephyr]

but i felt "ok it does reference the fact that it's a sun producer but that's fucking laamee."

[buoyant kestrel]

you could be insane and just add a new currency like a mad man

[limber oak]

stares at you

[honest zephyr]

Do I Add Fucking Sun To Balatro

[buoyant kestrel]

10 🌞

how entropious

[limber oak]

not to be confused with ascension power

[honest zephyr]

Sunflower
Gives 25 Sun at the end of round
-# And so begins the gateway to plant madness.

[limber oak]

pvz2 sun generation? k

[honest zephyr]

i lowkey forgot 😭 hang on

[robust urchin]

just make the card give $1 for every 4 diamond in deck

[honest zephyr]

there we go it's pvz1 sun generation now

[buoyant kestrel]

but 🌞

[robust urchin]

5 sun per 4 diamons in deck?

[honest zephyr]

i'm thinking like
inital release - pvz1 plants
couple updates - add a selection of pvz2 plants

[limber oak]

Gold Bloom
Gives 150 Sun when Blind is selected. Self-Destructs.

[honest zephyr]

at the beginning of a run the only plant joker that can appear is Sunflower and she would cost 4 dollars

after you buy sunflower you get access to all of the plant jokers since now you have sun

[buoyant kestrel]

yeahhh!!!!!!!

[limber oak]

Peashooter
X0.95 Blind Requirement when Hand is Played

[buoyant kestrel]

deck that starts you with a sunflower

(and therefore plant access)

[limber oak]

let me get a philosophical joker with that

[honest zephyr]

unique seed packet design for the plant jokers... 👀

[buoyant kestrel]

joker that enables a secret deck to be selected for only next run

[honest zephyr]

actually wait should sunflower produce 50 sun since if it's just 25 sun at the end of each round then trying to get plant jokers would take ass long

[buoyant kestrel]

rnjoker but deck real

[honest zephyr]

4 rounds just to get a single peashooter 🥹

[keen knoll]

deck of equilib?

[deft ore]

erratic deck + erratic sleeve + misprint deck + misprint sleeve

what isnt randomized there

[buoyant kestrel]

it just wouldn't have localization because the name and description are randomly generated characters tied to the next effect it would have

[buoyant kestrel]

like it has a specific name and description if you were a mad man you could memorize the effect it had