⚙・modding-general

[buoyant kestrel]

balanced

💖

[honest zephyr]

tier 3 for the cambrian could be
Booster packs have 1 more card and allow you to take 1 more option

[drowsy parrot]

therapeutic

[honest zephyr]

dragon's hoard tier 3 could be
Blind rewards are increased by $10

also there needs to be zodiac cards for the cryptid hands too...

[buoyant kestrel]

yes

there is already

effects for some of them

no sprites though

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P7cPoGjHo4YjDit7dqGW9TUiS_6CouUai23TkKprSZA/edit?usp=sharing just take a look if you want

[dire meadow]

no one will use #⚙・modding-general ever again

[dapper helm]

wait omg aikoyori is the one that pinged me for hamsterball i totally forgot

i love hamsterball joker

[torn urchin]

Teto approved

:3

[buoyant kestrel]

pear

[torn urchin]

Yo

[honest zephyr]

i wanted to call "Recycled Joker" and "Distinct Joker" "Recycled Jester" and "Distinct Jester" but uhh

[magic brook]

GUYS

[honest zephyr]

ortalab doesn't even call their jokers jesters

[magic brook]

PRIDE OR ENVY

[honest zephyr]

and yet this is literally called jester

[magic brook]

GUYS

PRIDE OR ENVY

[buoyant kestrel]

its because Thing Jester sounds weird usually

perhaps a format of Jester of Thing would have worked but oh well

[magic brook]

BUMP

[buoyant kestrel]

we got that Jester of Generosity type shit

[humble rampart]

jesters are anything but generous

[honest zephyr]

googol play card's swap would probably be an apple gift card

[drowsy parrot]

here comes the punchline

most jokers excluding jimbo and hand jokers arent even jestered

in sprites i mean

oh and purple joker

[honest zephyr]

i mean. i imagine in the alternate universe Ortalab exists in, jokers still technically exist

as a concept

also i'm looking at crowd pleaser's outfit and That Is Just Straight Up Tenna.

[buoyant kestrel]

real

[honest zephyr]

no i'm not kidding that is literally just tenna's outfit

[buoyant kestrel]

i know

[honest zephyr]

he stole the mentally unstable tv's fit...

[dapper helm]

i wonder when that art was made

[honest zephyr]

wait funny idea

[eternal portal]

hi chat

did you know

we made a new modding hub server

[honest zephyr]

whaaattt

[eternal portal]

specifically for modder cross-pollination

cross promotion

and cross help

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1444140290603487384

[honest zephyr]

-# cough cough pretending i did not know this even know you said something about this in the group chat that lasted 5 minutes

[eternal portal]

its been a second since

[dapper helm]

i will stay here as a cross consumer

[eternal portal]

yoin

[glacial ridge]

apparently you get it through subscribing to his kofi or something

[dapper helm]

thats cringe

[glacial ridge]

its a shame, i wanted to play some of the challenges

[honest zephyr]

YEAAAHH

[magic brook]

GUYS

ENVY OR PRIDE

[rain orbit]

What

[past lava]

envy

[magic brook]

K

Now i must go

[grand geode]

absolute pride resonance

[magic brook]

(Pride)

[young timber]

envy

[rain orbit]

Bmm being a bit wonky while trying to download ortalab

[magic brook]

Too bad i like pride more

[rain orbit]

Shit says "no you ain't"

[polar oyster]

Maybe you should add "tv" on tenna

[magic brook]

Hmmm

[brittle thunder]

fellas I need help with my balatro mods folder

idk why but its like the game is just completely ignoring the folder

idk what the heck is wrong with this thing

keep in mind I'm on Linux so please bare with me

[forest knoll]

doesn't work like that on linux because it's in proton

[dusty token]

mods go to appdata

steamapps/compatdata/2379780/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Balatro/

[forest knoll]

as per the lovely injector instructions
https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector

[hard plank]

wrong folder for mods

[forest knoll]

(it gives a path based on the assumption that you installed steam some other way than snap store but you can find steamapps/compatdata and keep going from there)

[brittle thunder]

wait wdym

[forest knoll]

.

read

[hard plank]

that's not where mods go basically

[forest knoll]

your mods folder is in the wrong place

[brittle thunder]

well where is app data

[forest knoll]

read the screenshot i posted

it has all the answers

[hard plank]

who tf uses snap

[forest knoll]

ubuntu

and as you can see in mac's screenshots, mac uses it

[brittle thunder]

ok but im not on windows so idk what app data is

[hard plank]

😭

[forest knoll]

READ THE SCREENSHOT I POSTED

[dusty token]

😭

[forest knoll]

IT LITERALLY TELLS YOU WHERE TO PUT THE MODS FOLDER

[hard plank]

where is lovely even

[brittle thunder]

im sorry ive read this several times am I just stupid can you please just tell me

[forest knoll]

literally what i would tell you is exactly the same as in the screenshot i posted

[brittle thunder]

I don't understand what it wants

[dense egret]

[hard plank]

first you need to install lovely

[brittle thunder]

ok but at least doing that woudl tell me which line you're even referring to

[dusty token]

mv ~/snap/steam/common/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Balatro/mods ~/snap/steam/common/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/2379780/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Balatro/Mods

[brittle thunder]

I did get lovely

[hard plank]

you did it wrong

[brittle thunder]

what did I do wrong

[hard plank]

you don't download code for lovely

[hard plank]

please read this screenshot even tho you use Linux

[forest knoll]

step 3
the Mods folder does not go next to the exe file
it goes in ...steamapps/compatdata/2379780/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Balatro (the ... is the beginning of your folder path that differs slightly from the screenshot because you installed steam a different way

the screenshot is relevant because the "+ Proton/Wine" means it's for linux

proton and wine are tools that run windows games on linux

[hard plank]

it also applies if you use the default Linux option

[brittle thunder]

ah right ok

I'm sorry if I make this frustrating I just don't like doing anything unless I 100% understand

but I think I get it now

sorry so it goes in steamapps?

[hard plank]

🤦

deeper

the full path leads to appdata

because you're on Linux the tool essentially simulates appdata for you

it goes exactly at that path

[dapper helm]

i'm a civilization one trick

[brittle thunder]

I still don't understand what all of this actually wants me to do I'm sorry

[forest knoll]

in steamapps, there's a folder called compatdata. in compatdata, there's a folder called 2379780. continue down this folder path based on the long string i gave you, where each / separates the next folder in the path

[brittle thunder]

ok

[forest knoll]

at the end, you should be in a folder called "Balatro"

that is where the Mods folder goes

[dapper helm]

in word civilization, no one jumps for the "psychological"

[brittle thunder]

ok ok I get it now, I didn't realize I was going from that to that, thank you

ok I got to the Balatro folder

[worn dagger]

Blue fuck I got from Dave and busters can’t stand

[dapper helm]

average funko slop

[brittle thunder]

ok so what do I do now that I'm in the Balatro folder do I drag the mods to here

[forest knoll]

that is where the Mods folder goes
yes

[brittle thunder]

ok

[eternal portal]

death

[brittle thunder]

alright I got it set up

[worn dagger]

To me?

Sure!

[brittle thunder]

to Funko

[worn dagger]

Fair

[eternal portal]

funko dies of cringe

[worn dagger]

I just got it bc I like Sonic

It was either that or the sonic waffle maker and we already have a waffle maker

[brittle thunder]

could someone link me to the lovely download or something because I feel like I keep downloading the wrong thing

I tried launching the game and still nothing looked different

[worn dagger]

What mods do you have

[forest knoll]

if you'll look at my screenshot again, it's linked on the lovely injector home page in step one (the "latest release" for windows)

[brittle thunder]

ok

[forest knoll]

and that version.dll does go next to the exe file, where you had your mods folder originally

[dusty token]

you need to add winedlloverrides thing

if yuo haven't

[dusty token]

step 5

[forest knoll]

that too yes

[worn dagger]

So real tho…

[brittle thunder]

wait so do I remove the mod file from here or do I keep it in both places

[dapper helm]

remove mods from there

[brittle thunder]

ok

[dusty token]

put version.dll to there

[dense egret]

-# linux players dont use ".sh" or something like that?

[dapper helm]

crust like krusty the clown? clownbs? bs;stro reference!?

[brittle thunder]

brb

[forest knoll]

balatro doesn't run natively on linux

it's through wine/proton

[dapper helm]

i wonder if we could convince a mod to add 2 tags in #1233188028613394514 for balancing style

[worn dagger]

It does on some

[dire trail]

god this smods pr is giving me a headache

[buoyant kestrel]

theres a whole thing where you can run it natively by using the native love binary for linux but i would recommend you not

[keen knoll]

the equivelant would be .so

[buoyant kestrel]

considering theres some issues

[dire trail]

its not crashing anymore at least

[dense egret]

oh ok

[dapper helm]

why does putting a # make it capitalize

[buoyant kestrel]

pretty much because a lot of mod code is platform dependent

[dire trail]

not working either but hey no longer crashing is progress

[brittle thunder]

Sorry what is wine I'm just curious because I wanna know if maybe it's better or not than proton

[dense egret]

keep installing

[buoyant kestrel]

wine is worse bro

[dense egret]

ask later

[brittle thunder]

Ok ok

[buoyant kestrel]

proton has better support as its just wine but better suited for games

like quite literally thats what it is

[brittle thunder]

Sorry I'm away from my computer using the bathroom that's why I stopped rn, I'll get back to it in a minute

[dapper helm]

wine is what i used to use to play about 1/7 games not available on mac

[worn dagger]

I want lemon lime potato chips

[brittle thunder]

ok I got the command thing set up

[dapper helm]

are those real?

[worn dagger]

Yes

[brittle thunder]

ok I tried launching and still nothing was different

[worn dagger]

Do you have steam modded?

[brittle thunder]

something must still be wrong with my mods folder

[brittle thunder]

pretty sure yeah

[worn dagger]

Alr idk then

[dapper helm]

get rid of the lovely folders there and send a screenshot of inside steammodded folder

[dense egret]

remove both "lovely" folders and start the game again

[brittle thunder]

ok

still nothing

[dense egret]

if you have the version.dll installed correctly a new one will show up, you dont need to touch this one

[dusty token]

do you have version.dll added alongside balatro.exe?

[brittle thunder]

wtf is version.dll im sorry

where is that to download specifically

[dapper helm]

its lovely

[brittle thunder]

oh

[dapper helm]

should be in the releases, you don't need anything else for lovely

[brittle thunder]

could someone like highlight for me what to download on the github page or something

this is making me feel really stupid

[dense egret]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.8.0

[dapper helm]

dw you are not stupid

[brittle thunder]

yeah but like whihc one

[dapper helm]

well idk that for sure but this doesn't make you stupid

[dense egret]

windows x86

[brittle thunder]

ok

[dense egret]

i think is the samw for linux

[brittle thunder]

ok so I added that now what

[dense egret]

idk i failed 3 times before getting it to work the first time

[brittle thunder]

the thing is this isnt even my first time installing mods

I reinstalled steam and my mods folder got all fucked up for some reason

[dense egret]

no, extract the folder.
now you have the "version.dll" this one goes in the local archives of balatro

use steam

[brittle thunder]

wdym the local archives

[dapper helm]

i don't think i failed but i definitely took long as fuck

[dense egret]

this one

[dapper helm]

where the balatro.exe is

[brittle thunder]

so like this?

[dapper helm]

this in english

[dense egret]

noup thats the appdata, you need to get into the local archives of balatro, where the .exe and .dll are

[dapper helm]

that button takes you straight to where you put version.dll

[brittle thunder]

oh wai

[dapper helm]

you had a "mods" folder there earlier

[brittle thunder]

ok ok so like this then

[dense egret]

this

[brittle thunder]

ok

[dense egret]

[brittle thunder]

wait is that good or bad

[dense egret]

yea that, extract the file

[dapper helm]

just assume good for fun

[brittle thunder]

wdym extract it its already been extracted

[dapper helm]

take it from the folder

[brittle thunder]

OH

[dapper helm]

like this

[dense egret]

[brittle thunder]

I didn't even bother checking the inside lmao

got it

[dense egret]

OpenAI 32

[brittle thunder]

so like this

[dense egret]

yes

[brittle thunder]

ok

[dense egret]

start the game

[dapper helm]

what actually is OpenAL32

[dense egret]

ik xd

[brittle thunder]

LETS FUCKING GO

[dapper helm]

i never think too much about what these thinks stand for but i'm curious now

[worn dagger]

Nice

[dense egret]

i cant wait for trying to compare number with table

[brittle thunder]

thank you all so much

[dense egret]

[dapper helm]

yw goat have fun

[brittle thunder]

this has been driving me crazy for a while so y'all are lifesavers

[dapper helm]

i'm glad people are still willing to walk people through this stuff

[brittle thunder]

gotta add card sleeves now

[dense egret]

wait how you say shortcut for things????

[dapper helm]

anyway this is what openal is

[worn dagger]

I need someone to fix everything wrong with me

[dapper helm]

wdym?

[dense egret]

like these

[frigid mica]

What if lily was a joker in my mod

[worn dagger]

What if Astro was a joker in my mod

[dapper helm]

like what are they called in english? also "shortcuts"

[frigid mica]

I already made him

[worn dagger]

I’m talking about my mod

[dense egret]

ty i thought it would be different

[dapper helm]

good question tbh

[frigid mica]

Starspace?

[worn dagger]

Yeah

[dense egret]

remember to make a shortcut of the "mods" folder

[worn dagger]

I should add him to it

Shilling joker baby

[frigid mica]

Isn’t Astro the mod owner and therefore added himself in the mod? Or do you all have equal share

[dapper helm]

🥹 i got mine right here

[worn dagger]

Technically I’m the “mod owner” but I like to think we all have equal shares

[dapper helm]

only manually navigated there like 12 times before making a shortcut

[dense egret]

for a long time i had one too, but now i only have the shorcut of AppData in the browser of archives

[worn dagger]

(I came up with the idea and assembled a team but still)

[brittle thunder]

wait what

oh yeah i did

also that was fast lmao

thats normal right

like that's just cryptid being cryptid yeah?

[granite forum]

ye

gotta love fun mod

[frigid mica]

I’ve yet to see a mod that turns jimbo into a “playable fighter”

[dense egret]

ok you have everything right so this isnt fixable, post this in the ctyptid sever

[dapper helm]

idk i haven't played in a while

[granite forum]

I was gonna do that

but everyone said to just make a game

[brittle thunder]

wait what

[granite forum]

😞

[frigid mica]

In cold beans?

[brittle thunder]

I thought this was because I put normal cards in the joker slots lmao

[granite forum]

basically bug report to cryptid people

[dense egret]

yea is cryptid crashing itself

[granite forum]

nah

balatro 2

[brittle thunder]

no no that was me I think

[rain orbit]

Before the game crashed I was playing plinko and instead of bottlecaps it was ortalab jokers for some reason, so I assume the issue here is that ortalab and hotpot are incompatible though not inherently, but I'm putting it here just in case I'm wrong

[turbid heart]

hmm

[frigid mica]

Imagine if jimbo could just walk around the game and beat the crap out of boss blinds

[dapper helm]

you should make jimbo in m.u.g.e.n

[brittle thunder]

I was playing on antimatter deck

[turbid heart]

what would you guys say is a good way to get your mod out there

[granite forum]

that was the idea

[turbid heart]

i want to get a lot of feedback on my stuff so i can improve it

[granite forum]

and story as well

[turbid heart]

first tries never perfect and all

[rain orbit]

It being good

[dense egret]

the crash you had right now is a code problem, not a compatibility one

[turbid heart]

got that covered

[granite forum]

It being good

[rain orbit]

[dapper helm]

hotpot has plinko?

[turbid heart]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1443744403243012236

at least i think so

[rain orbit]

Yes

[granite forum]

yeah

[turbid heart]

its the ONLY GOOD BALATRO MOD after all

[dapper helm]

i gotta collect all the minigames at some point

[frigid mica]

Once every round, play as jimbo to beat the blind by hitting the fucking score table

[rain orbit]

Is it on bmm or do I need to get it from github

[turbid heart]

github

[rain orbit]

Alr

[granite forum]

who uses bmm

[turbid heart]

its convenient

[rain orbit]

Me

[turbid heart]

so a lot of people probably

[dapper helm]

ante 1 i play scrabble, ante 2 suikalatro, ante 3 plinko, ante 4 jimbo fighting game

[turbid heart]

auto update is convenient

[rain orbit]

It's just generally more convenient for downloading what's on the catalogue

And updating when those roll out

[turbid heart]

anyway yeah

it adds 5 boss blinds

1 voucha

30 joke

george were you the one i argued with about the money retrigger joker

that was op

[rain orbit]

I know I don't have the consist motivation to do it in a reasonable time frame but I'd like for there to be a mod with a consumable type that's just megaten elemental spells

And their varying strengths

[dense egret]

megaten?

[rain orbit]

Megami tensei

[dapper helm]

not-persona

[frigid mica]

Shin megami tensei?

[rain orbit]

The thing stuff like shin megami tensei, persona, and metaphor are spinoffs of

[frigid mica]

Just say smt smh

[rain orbit]

Shit I worded that wrong

[rain orbit]

Megaten is more recognizable than smt so I just say that more

[turbid heart]

le balala

[rain orbit]

If only an "ideas guy" was a valid position on most projects

[turbid heart]

ideas guys will be used for hieds

hides

[rain orbit]

It's like being an architect when everyone else is an engineer

[dapper helm]

so true as a fellow ideas guy

[rain orbit]

As in you have good ideas but oftentimes they're too grand for the other members to cover

Not that I'm in a full fledged project anyway

But I know how it is

[dense egret]

CEO you mean?

or like a pre-CEO

[leaden vector]

500 cigarettes

[buoyant kestrel]

rainbow of glop

[rain orbit]

Oftentimes the head of the projects contribute more than just ideas

[dense egret]

what about Q&A

[dapper helm]

qa

[worn dagger]

It is in starspace, that’s my job!

[dapper helm]

true doe i was lowkey qa for some mods at one point

[rain orbit]

What if they have their own little inventory slot like how jokers and consumables are separated, they can be used to cover a percentage of the score requirement
A small blind will have 2 weaknesses, a big blind will have only 1, while a boss blind will have no weaknesses and a finisher is resistent to all elements

[dense egret]

i like that tbh

[rain orbit]

[dapper helm]

i think mods got too big for that to be too important of a role though

[dense egret]

true

[rain orbit]

Deadass this idea is genius cuz I know what I'm doing because I've played megaten games before

If I knew how to surely get consistently working people onto my proposals I'd have no problem making an expansion except I suck when it comes to that so it's only a dream

[hard plank]

add my mod...

[dapper helm]

wait true

[hard plank]

i did fall asleep during chatting

[past lava]

add my mod ONCE it comes out jimbo_spin

[polar oyster]

remove my mod, if you have

[dapper helm]

i won a run using civilization on the word deck

it was awesome

[brittle thunder]

I'm kind of hoping maybe I could start developing my own mod actually

just not exactly sure what I want it to be yet

[rain orbit]

I already have the megaten idea but I lack the resources and connections to actualize it

[dire trail]

did i hear megaten

[rain orbit]

Yes

Imagine megaten battle mechanics in balatro

That's the idea

[dire trail]

Mot blind that gets 8 billion press turns via demon eye

[rain orbit]

If anything the demons would be turned into jokers

It's just the battle mechanics that I intend to be the focus

[dire trail]

mot joker that gets 8 billion retriggers via demon eye

[rain orbit]

Stuff like using an agilao skill card onto a small blind that's weak to fire and it covers like 10% of the score requirement

[dire trail]

will there be the smirk mechanic

[rain orbit]

The what

[dire trail]

the smirk mechanic from smt4

[dense egret]

anyways read:
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1349064230825103441
and
https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade

[rain orbit]

I never played smt 4

I'm talking basic battle mechanics

[dire trail]

ah

whats your fav megaten game you have played

[rain orbit]

Rn it's metaphor

[dire trail]

mines still DDS

[rain orbit]

Metaphor's writing is like persona except it's not scared to be a bit grizzly

[brittle thunder]

I gotta figure out the theming of my mod and everything before I even think about actually learning how to do it

[rain orbit]

Hence why I like it the most

[dense egret]

ping me if you have questions

[dire trail]

metaphor has some of the mechanics i liked from dds, a bunch i liked from persona and a bunch i didn't like from both

[rain orbit]

I do like the concept of everyone not being limited to their inherent abilities

[dire trail]

yeah that was a major thing i liked in dds

[rain orbit]

You can pivot strohl into a mage archetype as I did

And when you get his social link up you can pivot back to the warrior lineage with inherited skills from the mage lineage

[dire trail]

my issue is that most party members you get midgame and beyond aren't very leveled in regards to their archetype which leads to a grinding issue

like i understand the narrative reasons

but as a player its not great lmao

[rain orbit]

I just got to the mustari temple so I'm not done with the game yet which is a good sign

Cuz it's already my favorite and I didn't even complete it

[dire trail]

plus imo they don't let you carry enough skills from other archetypes to really justify carrying a lot of the other moves
plus the cost to learn

[rain orbit]

Anyway back to the topic of balatro the basic idea is to incorporate elemental battle mechanics

[dire trail]

thats cool

which version of the green element will you be using

[rain orbit]

Zan

[dire trail]

so force?

[rain orbit]

Garu only has clout cuz of persona

[rain orbit]

Yes

[dire trail]

oh will you be including earth

earth might be specific to dds i dont really remember

[rain orbit]

I haven't played a megaten game with an earth element

Idk if any phys "elements" would hypothetically be included but it'd definitely have fire, ice, force, elec, light, dark, and almighty

[dire trail]

general phys would prob be fine

[rain orbit]

Yeah but idk what skills to assign for a general phys

[dire trail]

smtv and smtvv have a lot

[rain orbit]

Persona 4 had only 1 phys and there's like 50,000 medium phys damage skills

I wonder if there's a game with a designated name for phys skills like they do with elemental skills

[dire trail]

unsure

[real trail]

-# Early bird

[rain orbit]

Anyway, blinds would have randomly assigned resistances and weaknesses and the amount would depend on the blind, like a small blind would be weak to fire and force while being resistant to light

[brittle thunder]

lol thats cool

are you doing a whole Vanoss themed mod

[real trail]

YES

He got the reference!!!!!

It's not a whole Vanoss themed mod

Just one of the cards

[brittle thunder]

ah ok

[dense egret]

i hate how the rarity isnt centered

[real trail]

If I can get more Vanoss themed cards I'll do it tho

[real trail]

Omg why'd you point it out

Thats gonna bug me so much noe

[rain orbit]

The amount taken off would depend on the level of the skill used, bufu would cover 5% score, bufula would cover 10% score, bufudyne would cover 15% score, and diamond dust would cover 20%
Assuming they're neither weak nor resistant to that element
@dire trail

[dire trail]

who did you ping

[rain orbit]

Fuck

Whoopsie

Ther

[brittle thunder]

definitely gotta do one for banana bus

[dire trail]

im wing gaster, the royal scientist

[rain orbit]

Nobody knows I mesed up

[brittle thunder]

uh... maybe a homer simpson one

[rain orbit]

Anyway you see the vision right

[hard plank]

stray pixel

[dire trail]

yeah

[rain orbit]

Actually wait maybe the cards themselves would count as the phys skill

Playing balatro normally would be the phys

[dire trail]

truth nukd

[rain orbit]

Now I wouldn't have to deal with finding skills to include

Now if only I had other people who give a shit about megaten to help actualize it I'd be golden

I imagine people band together through connections more than they do randomly in this chat

The hell you mean "❓"

[dire trail]

this is modding-chat we complain abt each other all the time here

"we" i say as if im ever here normally

[whole nova]

i think i completed jokerdisplay compat for everything in my mod rahhhh

[rain orbit]

I was saying that I'm guessing that people find eachother to work on mods through connections with others more than they find random people to help in these chats

[whole nova]

it's usually entirely random

[rain orbit]

Oh

[dire trail]

oh yeah no thats true as fuck

[rain orbit]

Oh

[whole nova]

i met my mod's ideas guy at random and asked if they wanted me to dev

easy

[dense egret]

idk 50/50, i help some people here for 3 days and never talk to them again

[whole nova]

paperback is the same story

sometimes you get sucked into working on a mod

[rain orbit]

I'm talking moreso expansions

As my idea would count as an expansion I think

Stuff like hotpot but on a much lesser scale

[dense egret]

could be random tbh

[rain orbit]

Maybe I'm overthinking it, maybe not, all I know is that I suck at finding people who will contribute for more than 2 weeks

[whole nova]

i mean yeaj for such a huge project you'll need to find some dedicated people

are you intending to dev or just do ideas

because that'll also impact it

people won't want to be the sole dev on something like this tbh

[dense egret]

i would love to help you.
but i dont know a lot of coding for a big proyect

[whole nova]

you'd want someone who develops a bit and understands their limits

[rain orbit]

My strong suit is ideas but I can also contribute to art if it's simple enough

[dense egret]

the best way i could help right now is in spanish translation

[hard plank]

ts pmo again

[rain orbit]

I do go by my own philosophy that I only work when I feel like it to avoid burnout, but when it comes to ideas I'm much more flexible in my schedule and can help and brainstorm practically anytime

Tldr ideas forever, art sometimes

[whole nova]

unfortunately you're going to be looking for a very good dev for this project and you just being the ideas guy will not help with some people's willingness to join

[rain orbit]

I know and that sucks

[whole nova]

it doesnt sound fun to be the sole dev on a big ass expansion like that especially when ideas guy is just ideas

can always learn to code

[hard plank]

😭

[turbid heart]

true

[rain orbit]

I wish I had the tolerance for consistent failure to learn how to code

[turbid heart]

true?

[whole nova]

im just being real 😭 i dont mean it in a mean way, im just being legit

[dense egret]

tbh lua isnt very pretty in that way

[whole nova]

as a dev that would be a bit less enjoyable than having another dev who knows the limitations (in air quotes because obviously you can technically do whatever)

[turbid heart]

you're being completely true it kind of makes you look like pretentious when you talk about wanting to be the ideas guy who does no work and gets all their stuff made for them

[hard plank]

trif i am an ideas person

[turbid heart]

like

[whole nova]

but also a dev

that's the distinct bit

[turbid heart]

theres a difference between chipping in ideas and being the main focus of everything while also not doing any work

[whole nova]

chillax, tons of mods have a main artist/idea person who doesnt dev

[turbid heart]

artist

doing work

[rain orbit]

I know it's undesirable which is why I wouldn't expect anyone to prioritize it, it's only a fantasy rn

[whole nova]

well, fair

[hard plank]

ok but you have a point in the fact that the ideas sometimes just isn't easily implemented

[turbid heart]

main idea person is usually friends with the rest of the people on the thing

which is cool

[whole nova]

yeah, it helps to have osmeone who knows the (feasible) limits

[turbid heart]

but i think that lamenting not being able to do your project as the main 'ideas guy'

is kind of dumb and makes you look silly

you can do it

[whole nova]

download vscode NOW

[turbid heart]

its not hard i learned how to make a balatro mod in like

[hard plank]

i suppose i can both idea and dev

[turbid heart]

a month

[rain orbit]

I think y'all have lost the plot regarding the fact I know my skillset is less than optimal when it comes to banding people together

[turbid heart]

then dont band people together just do it yourself

[whole nova]

its awful that im coming up on a year of modding

[vivid seal]

trif

[whole nova]

and i still dont know SHIT

[turbid heart]

you are totally allowed to not want to do that its just when you talk about it so publically like this with the words you're saying

[vivid seal]

trif trif

[whole nova]

crabus

[turbid heart]

its kind of weird

[whole nova]

crabus crabus

[vivid seal]

join the clam

[whole nova]

the what

[turbid heart]

like i made a balatro mod in basically... what

less than a month

[vivid seal]

CLAMS

[whole nova]

WHAT

[vivid seal]

the CLAMS

[turbid heart]

oh im blocked by astro again

[whole nova]

WHAT ARE THE CLAMS

[turbid heart]

damn! kinda over

[vivid seal]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1444140290603487384

[hard plank]

the clams

join it

[vivid seal]

the CLAMS, trif! the CLAMS

[whole nova]

potato patch has my allegiance

[hard plank]

astra is there

[whole nova]

traitor...

[rain orbit]

The topic just shifted to how people are banded together, I wasn't intending to still be on the topic of what I was wanting to do

[vivid seal]

potato patch clam yuri

[neon urchin]

YURI

[whole nova]

???

[neon urchin]

girls kissing

[rain orbit]

The mod idea is just a small dream in my back pocket I don't expect it to be realized with my current resources and connections

[dense egret]

so gain more

[turbid heart]

reasonable

[rain orbit]

I will over time

[vivid seal]

trif you must he the one with the clam

[turbid heart]

u kind of based for that

i take back my condescension

u a real one actually

i was wrong

[whole nova]

fine

[vivid seal]

thank you trif

😊😊

[rain orbit]

I'm not one to complain publicly and intend for the topic to stay

[turbid heart]

i had a bad day... and i apologized!

[rain orbit]

Maybe if I'm really stressed but that's an exception

[turbid heart]

i flipped the coin and it came up heads so i had to be evil, etc etc

i was being a dick

[hard plank]

I'm evil

[dapper helm]

i was scrolled up a lot but i have it downloaded and actively avoid it cause i like to pretend i'm just gonna copy paste one thing and be done with whatever i'm trying to do

[turbid heart]

yea

very unlucky today idk

can i ask why you blocked me if ur gonna read my messages anyway

[whole nova]

never the case

[turbid heart]

hmmmm

ok

[rain orbit]

But yeah if anyone has nothing better to do and wouldn't mind kindly offering their services to me that'd be cool

[young timber]

love my life

[turbid heart]

what do we think of this one chat

[young timber]

👍

[rain orbit]

Agidyne/10

[young timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1444210641719001250/lets-take-a-look-look.gif?ex=692be179&is=692a8ff9&hm=c25aa3789bb0f88e6b8143259e3489c4d6adf983a4e2b13c49fdcd8e899a7b8b&

[dapper helm]

shoutout the old visual mod i have installed that i tried to make work with malverk (i spent an hour or 2 trying to copy paste the right code when i could've probably asked someone)

[turbid heart]

u right. i should stop being mean to people and just be nice.

fr

i went out with my friends and we had drinks (water) and shit and now i am happy

so i feel better

i feel... Balatro

[dense egret]

so foolish of yourself

[rain orbit]

Now that I think about it the best team would just consist of people with nothing better to do

[dapper helm]

as usual

[turbid heart]

every modding team ever

modding is a middle class hobby

[dense egret]

did you try to talk with the people who search people in #1209506514763522108 ??

[rain orbit]

There's a search?

[dense egret]

no i mean, wait

[rain orbit]

What

[dense egret]

post's like that

[hard plank]

imagine needing help developing....

fuck.

[rain orbit]

Never considered that

[dapper helm]

what would mr bones say about all this

[turbid heart]

'needs 25% more'

[dense egret]

XDDDD

[hard plank]

id say

people look for coders and artists because they already have the ideas

[dense egret]

theres people like you and you dont even think of that??

[dapper helm]

i lowkey should install that mod looking for playtesters

[rain orbit]

I might look well put together but I'm extremely forgetful unless I cooked it up myself

[dense egret]

30 days
good look with that

[dense egret]

make an excel

[rain orbit]

I said unless I cook it up myself

[dense egret]

make an excel

[hard plank]

why excel

[rain orbit]

[hard plank]

i really don't like putting shit on the sheet

[dense egret]

ok now make a google drive

[deft ore]

make Google 2

become a billionaire

[hard plank]

paradox

[rain orbit]

I have the built in windows notepad

[dapper helm]

theres like 4 more when you search playtest

[dense egret]

fuck it, compile you ideas in rust

[hard plank]

hop on clams

[dapper helm]

i know what i must do

[deft ore]

is clams good

[rain orbit]

Clash of clams

[hard plank]

it has no enforcement from balatro black art person

[dense egret]

then now good luck with that, see if "debug plus plus" is helpful for you

[rain orbit]

I don't even know what I'm being told to keep record of

[dense egret]

wait do you never writte down your ideas?

[hard plank]

#1444140290603487384

[rain orbit]

Sometimes but only when it's too complex to remember individual details, to which the idea I have rn isn't

[dense egret]

idk you should make a plan for what are you trying to right now

[rain orbit]

I can write it down in the event I need others to understand it

[dense egret]

mmmmmmmmmmmm

if i want to help you it would be nice if i have something to read

like i wouldnt just jump blind in a proyect

[rain orbit]

I said I'd write it down when others need to know it

Like in the post I'll make

I'll write it there

[dense egret]

sorry im having a fucking stroke and forgot some words

[rain orbit]

I made the post but forgot to add an image I'm rupid

And I have to wait an hour to make another cuz I deleted it

Best thumbnail I could think of was a jack frost render

[dense egret]

put a cat

people likes cats

[rain orbit]

The only cat I know of in megaten is morgana and it might people think it's specifically persona based

[dense egret]

the black and white cat?

idk much about persona tbh

[rain orbit]

Yeah

[dense egret]

nah put it anyways

[rain orbit]

Jack frost is a generally better choice

It's atlus's mascot not a specific persona title's

[dense egret]

makes sense ngl

[rain orbit]

Then again morgana isn't even persona 5's main mascot it's joker

[rain orbit]

What does the textures tag in the modding thread include

Like art shit?

[dense egret]

i would say is more used for guides or problems

[rain orbit]

Oh

[dense egret]

like this one https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1223425670860902543

[rain orbit]

Also when I try to select a tag from the drop down list it doesn't show that the tag is selected if it's even selected at all

It only selects the ones here

Idk if it's me or they're actually just not selecting

[dense egret]

rare, i selected anything when i created a post

[dapper helm]

piskel....

[rain orbit]

Does that mean you don't select anything or that everything works fine for you

[dense egret]

anyways just create the thread, you can change de tags later

[dense egret]

they work fine

[rain orbit]

50 minutes left

[dense egret]

dont worry for them, you can edit it later

[rain orbit]

Alright

[dense egret]

why tf it haves so bad quality

[dapper helm]

didn't know about that thread it is very helpful

[rain orbit]

🥀

[dense egret]

i dont bump it because people dont need it much

[dapper helm]

i assembled my qol modlist brick by brick ✊ 😔

[dense egret]

XD

me too, that took me 2 months

[dapper helm]

holy

[dense egret]

you have something that isnt in the list???????????

[rain orbit]

Bro styling at this point

[raw shuttle]

is there a way for me to open the game's console ?

[dapper helm]

probably not

[dense egret]

idk, new people dont want to read every one and people who play modded since a long time know almost every one

[dense egret]

debug plus

[rain orbit]

[dapper helm]

i find it funny that handy is so popular cause i used to recommend "better mouse and keyboard controls" or whatever the other one is constantly

spiritual successor really popped off

[dense egret]

im probably going to make a guide for artist, theres almost no documentation for them

[rain orbit]

I haven't seen any difference in playing when using bmakc

[dapper helm]

you don't do the hold click then mouse over cards thing?

[rain orbit]

No

[dapper helm]

or the middle click to restart run?

[dense egret]

26 rsults

[rain orbit]

The middle click brings up the pause menu for me

[dense egret]

you can config that

[dapper helm]

i downloaded handy and pretty much turned off everything but the 2 features i used to use from the other mod

[hard plank]

fro

[dense egret]

i think i would stop playing balatro if you took handy from me

[dapper helm]

sooooo true

[dense egret]

i get too used to it

i have slide, speed, fast use/sell in the mouse 4/5

[rain orbit]

You got so used to handy that you can't go back without it huh

[dense egret]

@dapper helm oh wait

[rain orbit]

The joke is sex

👍

[dense egret]

you know what mod lets everything spawn with every enchancement or edition??

[rain orbit]

Like all at once?

[dense egret]

i keep searching for that since 6 months i think

[dense egret]

no, engulf let planet appeard with editions

[dapper helm]

nah i don't remember that one

[rain orbit]

Oh

[dense egret]

well that but for everything with everything

[deft ore]

enhancements dont work outside of playing cards

they replace the whole texture

seals would work though

[dense egret]

idk which one was, but i love it

i mean in the same time as almanac

[deft ore]

seals on everything created by professional 🤔 reactor

[dapper helm]

do you have banner and https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1413687995378176021 on the qol list? or would mod manager type stuff be considered something else

[dense egret]

i hate mod manager

i know it can be very helpfully

[dapper helm]

this one isn't bmm its okayish

[dense egret]

but for the amount of crash it can create i prefer not to put it in the list

[dense egret]

what wait

[hard plank]

hop on clams

[dense egret]

a new one??

[dapper helm]

ikr i was suprised too

[dense egret]

share

[rain orbit]

What purpose does an in game mod manager serve
You can do the exact same thing with main menu tweaks can't you
Or does it make you not have to restart the game

[dense egret]

what

no

mod monager to download mods

[rain orbit]

Oh

[dapper helm]

like this

[dense egret]

not to config them

[dense egret]

ok i didnt know this

[rain orbit]

Where may I find this in game mod manager and is it bigger than bmm's catalogue

[dense egret]

x2

[dapper helm]

it pulls from a github list that people gotta submit their mods to so ofc it doesn't have everything

[dense egret]

oh

[dapper helm]

linked it here

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1413687995378176021

[dense egret]

but it doesnt crashes i asume

[rain orbit]

Is that a yes or no

[dense egret]

oh is from frost

[hard plank]

I'm pretty sure it pulls from BMM catalogue

[dapper helm]

does bmm pull from https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index ?

[dense egret]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

yea it does xdxxdx

[dapper helm]

damn

my bad i suppose

[dense egret]

well, no imm in the guide then

[rain orbit]

Does this mean imm's catalogue is bigger than bmm's or no

[dapper helm]

probably not then

[deft ore]

they should pull from https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1324102096584446002 instead

[dusty token]

smaller actually

[rain orbit]

[dapper helm]

well for what its worth mr crust i found it helpful

[dense egret]

IS THE SAME ONE

🛞

[rain orbit]

Why am I getting mixed answers

[dense egret]

oh

idk heard him

hes the creator

[dapper helm]

crust is the guy who made it

[rain orbit]

Oh

[hard plank]

how could that be

[dense egret]

well it can crash at the same rate as BMM?

[dapper helm]

some day we'll get a mod manager thats not using the same list 🥺

[dense egret]

make it happend

[dusty token]

we gotta switch to thunderstore, surely it'll happen

[dapper helm]

but then i'd have to like verify stuff probably

[dense egret]

youre balancing my crash machine????? https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1444227060527530065

[rain orbit]

20 minutes until I can make another post 🔥

[dapper helm]

i do NOT wanna be the guy known for making the mod list that includes 6 viruses

[dusty token]

yes

[dense egret]

now that you mentioned it, what happend with the guy making a script to download mods even easier

so yea like a mod manager

[dapper helm]

what if i just slowly submit mods to that same index everyone uses

can i do that

[dense egret]

idk

[hard plank]

sorry

[dense egret]

make sure to pull releases and not commits

[dire meadow]

aiko so apologetic man

[dapper helm]

don't remind me of github i was almost convincing myself to do this

[hard plank]

i can't do multiplayer

[dense egret]

from where else are you going to take the mods????

thunderberg?

[dapper helm]

github but i'll think about that when i'm already too far in to quit

[dense egret]

ok

i think github have ~350 mods??

probably less

[dapper helm]

i'll report back on this in a day or two btw. i haven't used bmm enough to understand when it would even be crashing

[dense egret]

normally, bmm grab lastest commit instead of lastest release

[dapper helm]

oh but did you add banner to the qol list

[dense egret]

making cross-mod crash almost every time it can

[dusty token]

i think ill need to make another thread or maybe a server for my released mods so i dont exhause my about me

[dense egret]

did you not read it??

[dapper helm]

i read it then read it again but didn't see cause i do not have eyes

[dense egret]

xd

yes it is

[obtuse quiver]

[dense egret]

@dapper helm wait it does not is ther

wtf

i thought i put it

[dapper helm]

thank god i was going crazy rereading it trying to find banner

[dense egret]

sorry

[dapper helm]

dw about it

[dense egret]

idk is so common i forget about it

the only qol i cant get out of mi mind is debugplusplus

i think about it as a joke first

[dapper helm]

lmao

[hard plank]

hop on clams

[obtuse quiver]

What

why

[rain orbit]

Which mod is at fault here
I just finished the round and was on my way to the shop

[hard plank]

#1444140290603487384

[dense egret]

start doing 50%, 50%

[rain orbit]

What does that mean

[obtuse quiver]

Oh shit ok

[dense egret]

remove 50% of the mods
crash still happen?? yes
remove 50% of the mods
.
.
.
.
.
:

[rain orbit]

🥀

[dense egret]

yea that crash is toooo common to be something especific

[wanton rapids]

wtf is clams

[dense egret]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1444140290603487384

[dapper helm]

@dusty token is the crash disabling suspected mods thing from imm/only with imm?

[dense egret]

what

the lua patcher or something else?

[dapper helm]

maybe, i haven't checked what that does

[dense egret]

nah i probably dont know what are you talking about

[dapper helm]

oh duh its from imm it says that

[dense egret]

:v

idk

i like the idea of mod managers

but i dont know nothing from the balatro ones

[dapper helm]

hold on i'll try to get a neat example, its not perfect (since it pretty much can't be) but i thought it was cute

[dense egret]

?

[dusty token]

its from imm yeah

[lavish pike]

Bro what

[dapper helm]

like this

[dense egret]

ou thats cool

[dapper helm]

also yeah after like 20 minutes of processing what you meant, it has an option of which release to download or to download from main

[dense egret]

main being commit right?

[dapper helm]

i think so yeah

[dense egret]

rare that bmm used that for so long then

maybe its new

[dapper helm]

i mean they use the same list but its not like the features are built into the list

[dense egret]

mhm

[dusty token]

i havent touched imm ui codebase in a long time

[dapper helm]

does it need more/better ui for something?

[dusty token]

no, i wanna add config section

[dapper helm]

oh i see

[blissful mango]

i wish there was a utdr+ mod

utdr is Boring

[dense egret]

so

you dont love vanilla+ no more?

[blissful mango]

yes

im back to numberslop

[rain orbit]

I finally maded the post

[blissful mango]

im back to CHAOS

[dense egret]

play re:potassium

[rain orbit]

[blissful mango]

sendlink

[dense egret]

[dense egret]

which oen

[blissful mango]

to re:potassium?

[dense egret]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1424832599225794650

[hard plank]

is my mid mod not numberslop

[dapper helm]

you have no mid mod

[blissful mango]

it requires M o re .

[dense egret]

play cryposting then

[rain orbit]

#1444234376802996277

Ther

I dided it

[hard plank]

hatsune miku

[dapper helm]

popipopipopipo

[real trail]

Astro

[rain orbit]

@rain orbit

[lavish pike]

@lavish pike

[dense egret]

@dense egret

[hard plank]

#1326135270759993364

[rain orbit]

#1444234376802996277

[hard plank]

who am i saying that to

[rain orbit]

Idk

[dapper helm]

good bit

[dense egret]

what

[rain orbit]

The bottom ones may be because of their username

Or an ai is thinking you might be looking for them

[dense egret]

what (scared)

😭?

[deft ore]

me????

[rain orbit]

I'm hungry as fuck I need to go eat something

[dense egret]

i dont know why you appeadr

[dapper helm]

missingnumber||bhfinity/0 ERROR

[deft ore]

@deft ore is this true

[dense egret]

i mean the first one

[dapper helm]

true i just liked that one

[thorny dust]

im bored

[dense egret]

mi||sing||n||umberbhf|| ini||ty/0 ERROR|| and this would be better

[dapper helm]

holy

|||The ||M||ounta||in ||of Sm||i||li||n||g Bod||i||es||
did i do that right

looks right

[dense egret]

i should expect this in one way or another

mi name is rare as fuck

[lavish pike]

@fair thistle

[dense egret]

dookers

[lavish pike]

my art style is "charming"
so why not do all sprites

[dapper helm]

gokers (gud jokers)

[lavish pike]

I could try that

[dapper helm]

thats true

[hard plank]

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 7

[dapper helm]

neru would have that

minininilla do you know akita neru the vocaloid?

[neon urchin]

but heres the sucker:

[lavish pike]

is your name (0 contributions) becuase of my name?

[vale gyro]

i spent the last like 15 minutes making this

[dense egret]

yea, but i dont actually heard vocaloids

[dapper helm]

i see i see

[dense egret]

becuase 🥖

[lavish pike]

right

[neon urchin]

-n-no… baka….

[lavish pike]

?

[neon urchin]

hmph

[lavish pike]

why am I in an anime now

tf is this 😭

[thorny dust]

e

[azure dagger]

mikudayo

[lavish pike]

dont know that one

actually, i dont really know anime well, i dont actively watch it

ive only seen a few episodes of smth when i was like 7, then i just havent

[dense egret]

theyre tsundere for you

do something

[lavish pike]

what does that mean

[dapper helm]

archnemesis

[lavish pike]

oh right, i googled it

uhh, damn

[deft ore]

make a move or something

idk

[lavish pike]

ok, im moving backwards (running away)

[neon urchin]

🥺 💢

[lavish pike]

not ready for this

[dense egret]

your baka is runing, kill his family or something

[neon urchin]

okay!

if i cant have you nobody can…!!! 🔪

[hard plank]

....

Samsung Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra

[dense egret]

why you keep promoting samsungs

[neon urchin]

samsung is sponsoring their mod

[dapper helm]

thats a good deal

[neon urchin]

its what funds them

[dense egret]

them?

[winged prism]

A) SIngular them
B) Aiko funds Samsung

[dense egret]

whi are you

[winged prism]

I am invading

This is

My channel now