⚙・modding-general

[keen knoll]

ground ?

[woven orchid]

oh and also practicing game design i suppose

[deft ore]

creation for creation's sake can be good but there should be effort into it

[wide mulch]

i learnt lua and SMODS just to create joker forge

but joker forge is all written in typescript

[buoyant kestrel]

burn.

[past lava]

people who find 67 funny are buffoon's

[young timber]

damn loll

[deft ore]

hey you did better than poker and victin

[woven orchid]

vallkarri will be cancelled in 200 days

or 10 minutes.... who knows

[wide mulch]

its because i cared lmao

[deft ore]

humor used to mean something

[buoyant kestrel]

earth is cancelled the trumpets are about to sound boys

[deft ore]

balatro 1.1 is cancelled

[wide mulch]

joker forge will take over the world 😈

[deft ore]

dear god...

[wide mulch]

thats last 30 days i cant go prior to that lol

[balmy lily]

ive got a new joker idea

[wide mulch]

it looks good on a cv nonetheless

[past lava]

jokester is canceled even though it has one joker created

[daring sluice]

why does jokerforge not supported scaling operators? im not using this dogshit

wasnt me

[deft ore]

balatrue

[wide mulch]

true

[woven orchid]

was you , buddy

[daring sluice]

nuh uh

cant prove it

[woven orchid]

its ok breeding is a pretty good mechanic

[daring sluice]

thank you

[deft ore]

not true we also have umamusume

[woven orchid]

in comparison to some other parts which i think were badly designed

[buoyant kestrel]

want to scale operators? simply crash the game instead!

[woven orchid]

but i will not call out because frankly i dont want to argue or even discuss anythign right now

[daring sluice]

w breedpreciation

[buoyant kestrel]

quite a needed feature

[past lava]

horse racing test is better

[wide mulch]

reveal

[woven orchid]

i also love HRT

[past lava]

same

[woven orchid]

[daring sluice]

who wants to get in my van

i have free hrt

[woven orchid]

help guys how do you shut up your brain i feel like its too loud and im already blasting music

[woven orchid]

im already in the van bro

[buoyant kestrel]

i don't believe you hold this opinion but the credits metaprog is so ass

[daring sluice]

a lot of electricity

[past lava]

wait a minute

[deft ore]

it's metaprog it was doomed to be ass

[woven orchid]

oh no i dont like that either

[deft ore]

as far as metaprogs go its pretty good

[woven orchid]

-# mainly because i was in like 27 credits of debt for a while

[balmy lily]

do i make a joker out of this too?

[deft ore]

"He Discard them"

[daring sluice]

you fools made her discuss

[deft ore]

also i dont like social credit being tied to metaprog

[woven orchid]

i would talk about things i dont like but i havent booted up hotpot in a while

[buoyant kestrel]

there could have been a cool out of game shop with currency that doesn't directly control the game (only through purchases) so you as the designer can control exactly what should be affected by it and for how much

[deft ore]

less funny with lasting impact

[daring sluice]

-1000 social credit for this message

[deft ore]

the balatro communist party is displeased with your actions

they shouldve made social credit a new currency

[buoyant kestrel]

real

social credit is credits but only socially
and because as we know you reincarnate when you start a new run so thats a new social life

[deft ore]

social credit is stored on jokers

[buoyant kestrel]

this is just a hand level planet

i went too hard

[deft ore]

what hand

[buoyant kestrel]

this monster of a hand

pandoras box

and the planet is called the same thing since that is a space object already

[woven orchid]

Utilities

[uneven raven]

can someone please tell me how to make steammodded not crash my game whenever i go to main menu while using a consumable 🙏

[buoyant kestrel]

you what

why does it let you do that

[uneven raven]

what

[buoyant kestrel]

of course it crashes the run stops existing

it is unloaded

[uneven raven]

???

[keen knoll]

ironic that cryptid's is the exact opposite

[buoyant kestrel]

not ironic thats just how the swaps work

[keen knoll]

oh

[buoyant kestrel]

i inverted the hand

[keen knoll]

whats ultpair and bulwark

[buoyant kestrel]

even though bulwark is suitless i made swapped bulwark be only ore

[keen knoll]

or what

[buoyant kestrel]

and skyscraper is just directly harder to play

[keen knoll]

wow

[buoyant kestrel]

ore

ore cards

[daring sluice]

@wind panther wow youre so famous

[keen knoll]

cards or what

[buoyant kestrel]

Ore Cards

[keen knoll]

its a joke..

[buoyant kestrel]

if you don't do /j i will not be able to tell

💀

[uneven raven]

hello??? anyone???

[buoyant kestrel]

you are either wording your query wrong or you are doing something insane

stop trying to use consumables in the main menu my main man

[blissful stag]

thats like

[uneven raven]

no im not using consumables in the main menu

i use a consumable

and then i quit to main menu

also called savescumming

[buoyant kestrel]

is it DONE

[uneven raven]

no

[buoyant kestrel]

if it isn't then no shit

[uneven raven]

so steammodded is just supposed to crash when you do that???

[blissful stag]

what consumable even is it anyways

[uneven raven]

like anything

[buoyant kestrel]

BALATRO will crash

[blissful stag]

oh

[buoyant kestrel]

you goofy mf

no steammodded required

[uneven raven]

base game balatro does not crash if you savescum my man

[blissful stag]

why are you so aggressive

[buoyant kestrel]

if you were able to exit while using a consumable then yes

[sterile hornet]

i mean if you quit after its finished it doesnt mean when you continue the run the consumable is still used, at least from my experience

[uneven raven]

i use the consumable
i pause the game while it's doing the thing
i press the main menu button
it crashes when i continue the run

[buoyant kestrel]

(i'm not even certain base balatro LETS YOU so)

[uneven raven]

it does

[uneven raven]

base balatro does not crash

[buoyant kestrel]

you can't fix that that just happens like just wait my g

[blissful stag]

you can do that??

[buoyant kestrel]

unless you want to do a commit

[uneven raven]

...i thought savescumming was like common knowledge...

[buoyant kestrel]

nobody does that so thats probably why 💀

[uneven raven]

ill just record a video

[blissful stag]

i mean

[buoyant kestrel]

not savescumming interrupting consumable state

[blissful stag]

i didnt even know you can save scum in balatro

since it goes with a seed

[olive hamlet]

I usually dont do that in balatro, compared to like FTL or noita

[uneven raven]

you can use it to see what happens next

[sterile hornet]

you can just wait to quit after you use the consumable for it to finish, thats common knowledge and practice

[blissful stag]

oh

yeah that seems like a valid reason

[uneven raven]

like you can savescum a judgement to see what joker it gives

or like sigil to see what suit it makes

[olive hamlet]

oh that savescum
yup I do that
(I thought it meant like loading a save if you died, like in FTL or noita )

[buoyant kestrel]

^^^

[blissful stag]

yeah Im pretty sure if you were to save scum it would be before rather than during

[uneven raven]

i mean it's basically loading the save in the state before using the consumable so it's still savescumming

[buoyant kestrel]

like savescumming is one thing but i had NO idea about the state interrupt

[uneven raven]

okay but still it doesn't crash vanilla balatro so i think it shouldn't crash steammodded

[olive hamlet]

usually I do that when I use a consumable in the middle of using it,
it doesnt save when you use a consumable as well

[uneven raven]

but it does

[buoyant kestrel]

then make a commit ig

you are probably the first person to get this crash 💀

[young timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1434311755928047749

play my mod 🤤

[olive hamlet]

this is me using an older steammodded though, because newest steammodded has a softlock issue

involving drawing cards

[woven orchid]

dont play my mod its bad

[sterile hornet]

just to be sure, am i wrong that you can savescum by waiting for the animation to finish then exit and continue run? i thought that was a thing

[young timber]

which one?

[woven orchid]

the evil one

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah you can

[woven orchid]

the one with content

[buoyant kestrel]

thats why nobody knows

[young timber]

ohhhhh

[buoyant kestrel]

except for that guy

[young timber]

the

yea

[buoyant kestrel]

i'm fairly sure anyway

[uneven raven]

you cant do that for packs

[vivid seal]

what if I like that mod?

[buoyant kestrel]

like for example it saves on hand

[uneven raven]

since the game saves right after the pack is finished

[vivid seal]

what if i like your work?

[buoyant kestrel]

so anything you do before that is scummable

[buoyant kestrel]

isn't there at least two cards you can use in cons packs

[olive hamlet]

before smods 1016c, it is scummable until you play/discard, reroll or when a booster pack ends

[young timber]

@buoyant kestrel join vc theres a fuck ton of ppl

pray~1

[uneven raven]

??

[young timber]

🥺

[woven orchid]

m

[buoyant kestrel]

does vanilla have packs that are select 1 of X that are for consumables

[sterile hornet]

honestly it'd be more convenient to just have a mod that tells you which jokers or which suits or which cards the consumables create

[blissful stag]

why is there even a parameter for perishable compatibility

[uneven raven]

b-but that feels more cheaty 👉 👈

[blissful stag]

im just kinda curious

[buoyant kestrel]

scaling jokers suck ass with it

so they don't get it

[uneven raven]

no?

[buoyant kestrel]

since they cannot become powerful

[olive hamlet]

of course some mods would try to apply perishable anyway

cough cough
fucking astral in a bottle

[buoyant kestrel]

then you don't need to do that unless you have two randomized consumables you are using

[keen knoll]

ah yet another reason to hate aiab

[uneven raven]

let's say the card in question is judgement

[frigid mica]

I think the best way to describe Jen’s almanac is “You have to be terminally cryptid-addicted in order to play this mod”

https://youtu.be/uUlqQfhQRwE?si=PJqM2fvoNmshHoOP

[uneven raven]

if i use judgement inside a small arcana pack and wait for it to end

the game saves

[buoyant kestrel]

you see

just use it first

💀

[olive hamlet]

Its a lot less worse with my mod, where only the edition is perishable
I included the old version as a cursed joker

[uneven raven]

use what first???

[buoyant kestrel]

i had asked if there was any consumable packs that were only select one card

[hard plank]

guys

[buoyant kestrel]

you said no

[keen knoll]

thats at least more reasonable

[buoyant kestrel]

if that is true you can always use the random consumable first

[frigid mica]

Astro you’re literally one of the most op jokers in my mod, and it’s called busted buffoons.

[buoyant kestrel]

and be able to savescum

because the pack doesn't close

[olive hamlet]

"Nostalgic"

[frigid mica]

And no, not overtly powerless, I mean overwhelmingly potent.

[keen knoll]

i legitimately think astral in a bottle is worse than most cursed jokers

[buoyant kestrel]

the only time this is an issue is if there is two randoms you need to use

[uneven raven]

???
the pack ends after you choose one card

[frigid mica]

UGHHH, I FEEL YOU

[keen knoll]

whhat

[frigid mica]

I WISH I WAS PART OF SOMETHING CRAZY TOO

[buoyant kestrel]

i literally asked you if there was packs that were select one

💀

[sterile hornet]

thats what he was asking about, the choose 1 of X cards in a consumable pack

[digital jungle]

wait did it actually give ^0.9 mult before

[sterile hornet]

just to clarify

[olive hamlet]

no it didnt
its just there to force you to make a choice to:
lose ^0.9 mult (and a joker slot) permanently
add perishable to a random joker

[uneven raven]

i assumed he meant something else because that's like... the default

[keen knoll]

dagger

[uneven raven]

okay then what if it was

[olive hamlet]

true

[digital jungle]

ohhhhh

[buoyant kestrel]

if it was one then you would have to do the gamba
i asked because that would be another caveat

[digital jungle]

i mean fair lmao

[buoyant kestrel]

also while savescumming may be common knowledge this does not mean people do it

the most i've seen is restarting for good initial tags

[uneven raven]

that barely even counts as savescumming

[buoyant kestrel]

i was gonna say that

[frigid mica]

What’s savescumming

[buoyant kestrel]

you wot

[frigid mica]

???

[digital jungle]

its this invention where you back out of a save and then go back in an attempt to change how shit goes

[uneven raven]

basically time travel but not the hieroglyph kind

[frigid mica]

Ah, I’m guilty!

[uneven raven]

in the context of this game since seeds are deterministic and the outcome doesnt change you use it to see the future

[frigid mica]

I’m guilty of this action.

I tend to hate losing.

[deft ore]

i do this specifically for ectoplasm

[frigid mica]

I mean sure you’re supposed to learn from them, but I’m too stubborn to actually learn anything from each game. (Apart from information about certain things like cards.)

[buoyant kestrel]

looking good

way more sigma (and annoying to code): Tells random probabilities what to target (based on choice)

[frigid mica]

Clairvoyance Deck, tells you the next item rolls in the shop.

It’s more like if log was a deck

[buoyant kestrel]

funny joker:
Shop items cannot be rerolled

this does not disable rerolls

infinite copies

[frigid mica]

Holy shit

Canatlope

[toxic cloud]

joker (+4 mult)
reroll
joker (+4 mult)
reroll
joker (+4 mult)
reroll
joker (+4 mult)
reroll
sanity lost

[vivid seal]

money lost

gg

[buoyant kestrel]

now i want to subsume this into pandoras box

[blissful stag]

would anyone actually be willing to use this

well in early game atleast but thats probably a given no

[buoyant kestrel]

this seems like worse ectoplasm

[vivid seal]

meh

i wouldn't

[buoyant kestrel]

well on the first use of ecto anyway

[blissful stag]

well its a tier below spectral maybe

[buoyant kestrel]

this is not worthy

also this is the first time i've seen someone use the fact that you can add rarities to ANY object type

so nice ig

rental but it eats your interest instead

om nom nom

real?

[drowsy parrot]

im kms

wait i beat you to it

nvm

[buoyant kestrel]

black holes are scary

[keen knoll]

youre scary

[buoyant kestrel]

die

hehehe

[keen knoll]

ok

[buoyant kestrel]

sorry i never laugh ever

that seems like a joke but i rarely do

like i find stuff funny but not enough to laugh

[past lava]

i have a question
are exotics replaced with trash jokers?

[buoyant kestrel]

exotic and cursed swap

[blissful stag]

I need more disgusted paralanguages

[buoyant kestrel]

so sinfuls are the powerful rarity

and i havent made a name for the exotic swap lmao

Cheap

and its all jokers where their effects SOUND good but the wording fucks with you

[past lava]

i got some ideas for them

[buoyant kestrel]

remember all exotics become gaslighters

[vivid seal]

what's this for?

[blissful stag]

something

[buoyant kestrel]

heheheh

[vivid seal]

also, L numberslop hate ngl

💔

[buoyant kestrel]

slopity slop

[past lava]

gains ^0.99 mult when anything happens

[buoyant kestrel]

oh goodness

hahaha

[worn bone]

[Monarchy] (entropy’d effarcire, idk a good name): All cards are Kings. (what it actually does: replace everything in the shop and booster packs with a magic trick’d buyable King.)

[wooden elk]

updated my mod again finally

its small but its something

[buoyant kestrel]

Exponentia -> Roothiah: Square current mult when XChips is triggered
'Square' being dividing it in four pieces

[worn bone]

youd think its like paraedolia but nope! :3

[buoyant kestrel]

not roots anymore but

[worn bone]

good luck buying anything

would these have the “fulfill X to get rid of these” or

[past lava]

what would be the bad version of that one joker that does +30 joker slots

[buoyant kestrel]

hmm i dunno it would have to be hidden

since i want the text to be able to trick people

[worn bone]

+30 eternal jimbos

[digital jungle]

exponentia ortalab: loses ^0.03 mult whenever any chip effect is triggered

[wooden elk]

Unlimited Joker Slots
(but no joker slots)

[worn bone]

yeah make it only show up after you get the joker

[buoyant kestrel]

balatrue

[worn bone]

question would there be some
mechanic where you actually Want to carry the burden of them or will they literally just be dead weight in the shop to trick you

because cryptids curseds feel half baked in that regard

[past lava]

i wonder what would be the ortalab version of hotpot

[worn bone]

theres never any reason to actually… pick one up in the first place

[blissful stag]

tophat

[digital jungle]

gee i wonder

[deft ore]

balatro celibacy mod

[buoyant kestrel]

looks at suspiciously cold beans

[deft ore]

where the jokers don't fuck and go on dates instead

[blissful stag]

where modders pull a random ass prompt from a magic hat and have to make a mod around it for a week

[wooden elk]

Evil Perkeo
All consumables become Negative
(what it really does: it turns every single consumable into a completely new consumable just called "Negative" that halves your current chips)

[buoyant kestrel]

cryptid's cursed usually don't appear in shop they are just punishment for something

which isn't great but its better than it being shop clog

i think i do want them to appear in shop but they cost negative lmao

so you get money from buying them

[blissful stag]

im geniunely just a moron

[worn bone]

yeah

….
hey wait-

…… mythos cards……..

[buoyant kestrel]

yes...

[worn bone]

wouldnt you just learn to never take it at all then

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah the second one

[worn bone]

idk it has the same problem as the hotpot event that kills your run to me

[buoyant kestrel]

you get a bunch of money and it doesn't take a slot

[frigid mica]

What’s brown and sticky?

[buoyant kestrel]

also i'm trying not to make them kill you

[blissful stag]

a stick

[buoyant kestrel]

like a step up from stickers (in vanilla)

[frigid mica]

See? This guy gets it.

Are you though?

[past lava]

STICK.

[buoyant kestrel]

sticky mind you mean

[worn bone]

cold beans teaser (its inverse hotpot because we actually share stuff)

i will not elaborate

thank you for your time :)

[past lava]

astro
the orignal punchline was stick.

you are not right

[blissful stag]

7 of farts

[worn bone]

87 new meme

[blissful stag]

astro shut up

[worn bone]

trust the process

astro have you seen #1425631672853991434

[blissful stag]

why cant we have Balatro minus

so you just hate me

[wise bear]

Balatro - balatro

[buoyant kestrel]

first one is too strong

(run killing i mean)

you need to be able to take it and not be cooked

lawn chair is also bad but its livable

amazing

amazing

[worn bone]

prob make it not affect boosters then, just the shop cards themselves

[buoyant kestrel]

the wording is the same because booster packs are not cards

[frigid mica]

Been thinking about trying to multiply the multiplication value of jimbo

Using blockbuster’s value Manip api

[worn bone]

cards inside boosters i mesnt

so it essentially just becomes like that one cursed seed with only planets in the shop

but also you get unlimited kings

doesnt seem too run ruining? but is still quite, quite bad

[buoyant kestrel]

wording also stays the same

[worn bone]

yep

[buoyant kestrel]

cards in booster are not in shop

[worn bone]

all cards are kings :3

feel free to change it to a different rank if youd rather it be for a different exotic or have a different flavor or something

i just like king because it sounds more “imposing”

[buoyant kestrel]

true...

just got reminded of this

goofiest joker balance wise

not rerolling is not that hard lmao thats just a free ^2 Mult

[young timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1434311755928047749 final beg for today, PLEASEE someone playtest my mod

i need the bug testing

[frigid mica]

Is that an epic joker?

I forgot what rarity it is

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah

[frigid mica]

The Pin:

[buoyant kestrel]

hehehe

yeah but flat ^2 Mult is boring

and you can just avoid the downscaling (most people don't even reroll that much)

[frigid mica]

Where’s your zone in the balance equilibrium?

[blissful stag]

I mean

[buoyant kestrel]

sans undertale

[young timber]

beam?

[frigid mica]

I lean heavy on Exotic Jokers, sometimes situational but very exploitable if given the chance.

[buoyant kestrel]

ong if you let anything above X grace a rarity that isn't comparable to exotic you better hope its less than one or i'm gonna get you

[past lava]

i get the joke 🥹

[frigid mica]

I almost didn’t get it but just for confirmation, will he ever pick up his sock?

[past lava]

"road work"? yeah, i hope it does

[past lava]

laugh now

[final wedge]

insert shrimp fried rice joke here

[blissful stag]

and buskin

[frigid mica]

I swear to fucking god

I’m this close to opting in to cryptlib

[past lava]

the evil jenlib in the corner

[buoyant kestrel]

venom symbiote

[frigid mica]

Blockbuster’s value manipulation api is screwing me over

[buoyant kestrel]

it has some VERY specific design goals

which do not jive with what most people think of as 'value manip'

[frigid mica]

All I want is to manipulate joker values by X4 at the end of the round.

X4 specifically

[buoyant kestrel]

cryptlib does that easy

i just thought of the code with my mind

small enough to hold there

[frigid mica]

Yeah but the way blockbuster does it is fucking weird

Instead of giving outright x4

It’s x(n + 4)

LIKE WHAT

[buoyant kestrel]

additive multiplicative scaling scaling goes crazy

[frigid mica]

I DONT WANT X9, I WANT X16

[young timber]

that sounds dumb

[frigid mica]

Ok well, how would I write that? (Since I obviously have cryptid and also own a cryptlib kit)

[blissful stag]

yeah im making it for the future

dont take it ill kill you

[deft ore]

we get up to normal things in the hotpot vc

[frigid mica]

Little Timmy’s first mod

Aka Busted Buffoons

[chilly pine]

what does this mean

[past lava]

stop

[deft ore]

The Girth

[chilly pine]

why are you being cryptic

balatro cryptic mod

[deft ore]

discord activity

The Girth

[buoyant kestrel]

for i, joker in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
    if joker ~= card then -- card being the joker running the calc since you dont want it to scale itself
    -- OR do: if joker.config.center.key ~= "whatever your card key is" if you want to prevent two copies from scaling off eachother
        Crypid.manipulate(joker, { value = card.ability.extra.whateverthekeyisforthefour })
    end
end

and obviously you need the context

[frigid mica]

One second

I’ll have to restart discord

[young timber]

nooo dont go to the dark side

ft nooo

[frigid mica]

Bitter I’m already in the dark side, my own mod is based off of Jen’s almanac

[young timber]

D:

may someone help me with an idea, thats like complicated n shit

awit

i remember what i've been told

[frigid mica]

Besides, what’s jenlib got?

[young timber]

someone help me with an idea, adding nubby from nubby's number factory

his joker produces a nubby and what ever he bounces gets a random seal

its far to hard for me

[buoyant kestrel]

gang i am not grinding just for nubby

[young timber]

yes you will

ur like great

[frigid mica]

idk what the latter means

[young timber]

what

[buoyant kestrel]

nubby bounce

[young timber]

right so we take code from yahi from the v1 coin throwing, so it like goes down

[buoyant kestrel]

it a ball

[young timber]

pregnancy

for now im adding the upgraded squid

since that sounds easy, copy the thing to the left and trigger twice

what if i pretend like they're shooting stars

i could do with a wish rn... wish rn

[blissful stag]

why is card1 and card3 a thing but not card2

[young timber]

what?

[blissful stag]

what happened to card2

the sfx files

[young timber]

i ate it

[young timber]

i was a bit hungry :(

[young timber]

why not aces

this could go so well with a joker i made a bit ago

[past lava]

i ran out of names

[young timber]

a [suit] up my sleep

[buoyant kestrel]

you ain't getting reward money ever again for that blind ig

forgot a name but i am very tired

mm

idk

wait flipped joker and the name and description fields are swapped

funnier: each word is a badge

[young timber]

do animated atlases have to be a straight line?

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah

[young timber]

shit

squid sheet dont work :(

[buoyant kestrel]

my fucking t is shit

t it

[young timber]

cry pid

[frigid mica]

ties

[past lava]

based off the new blood game

[young timber]

how do i have animated jokers

[frigid mica]

pink heart?

are they also wearing pink?

what weapon do they weild

wield*

i thought they wield a scythe of sorts...

[buoyant kestrel]

lmao

crazy

freegels does not need allat 💀

i mean the quote

the edgy one

[frigid mica]

can i use both?

what the code looks like atm

[buoyant kestrel]

you wouldn't need to

the center check also excludes itself

[frigid mica]

i don't remember my own joker manipulating its own value

[buoyant kestrel]

cryptids value manip is a lot less abstract

you gotta filter em out

[frigid mica]

so, use math.min?

[buoyant kestrel]

what?????

why????

[frigid mica]

oh i was curious about what you would've done

i thought you were gonna correct me

[buoyant kestrel]

that code is fine as i sent it you just need a context check and to change the extra access

and you have the check and the key filled out

so should be goid

goid

amazing

[frigid mica]

oh my fault

"J"oker is not the key.

it's "j"oker.

[buoyant kestrel]

no its jover

[frigid mica]

lowercase j

[elfin solar]

where can i find a first time modding guide?

[frigid mica]

can we make it jack?

[elfin solar]

sike im blind

[frigid mica]

WE'RE SO JACK

so, it turns out i'm not actually tweaking

i just wrote the key wrong

this is actually way simpler than blockbuster

who's better? Busted Buffoons Jimbo or Jen's Almanac Jimbo?

ok outside of pwx jimbo uhh

who did it better?

[past lava]

right

[past lava]

actually both

[frigid mica]

mine is a bit too meta as a joker

meta as in 4th wall breaking

since he's based off of the real jimbo of balatro

btw, how does HP's base joker work?

[chilly pine]

prevents death

[frigid mica]

ok how the fuck do i make this work?

[toxic cloud]

Trailer soon™

[chilly pine]

oh i didnt know mods had a calculate function

thats cool

[toxic cloud]

yep, that's a thing now

[chilly pine]

totally makes sense

[frigid mica]

i'm gonna have to change the way astro spawns, and it MUST be easy to pull off since the main idea for these jokers to show up is through methods and not conusmables.

[chilly pine]

im assuming it runs every frame

[young timber]

what?

[chilly pine]

or only when calc context is called?

[toxic cloud]

it’s treated as a global calculate

[young timber]

its just like a calculate function for joker

but always on

[toxic cloud]

basically your mod is an object like a joker

and it's always on

[chilly pine]

i see

[frigid mica]

what if you use the world 10 times?

[chilly pine]

youre not getting that setup ingame whatsoever

[frigid mica]

what

[chilly pine]

10 worlds

checkered deck.,..

synergy momento

[buoyant kestrel]

use the world on three spades

[frigid mica]

busted buffoons, where what you call it legendary, we call it common.

use the world on 3 aces.

[buoyant kestrel]

three spaces (spade aces)

spade saturation is a must

[frigid mica]

i want it to be done either way

i really wanna make this easy

[woven orchid]

tonight has been a night of some very interesting discoveries

[frigid mica]

play a level 10 high card ace of spades.

and it has to be level 10, not more, not less.

[strong obsidian]

I did a Collage run, ||with Paperback installed because the Minor Tarots rock!|| this was my best hand.

[frigid mica]

don't spawn it via judgement

then i would have to make a new tag for it

beat the goad with only spades

beat the goad with only spades, i think that's good enough.

jamirror can you help m- oh.

oh paradox

[young timber]

parodox ml

what an rpg fight

[frigid mica]

paradox, how do i write "beat the goad with only spades" in context format

[young timber]

make spades the spades colour

[buoyant kestrel]

hi im spongebob

i am about to go to sleep

[deft ore]

i dont fucking know. mod calculate shenanigans probably

its not that simple

[frigid mica]

if bons blnd key == "goated" and cord:is_soot("spoods")" thn

the idea was that you don't care if the goad debuffs spades.

and you're only playing spades

[woven orchid]

pseudocode bc i’m in bed but like maybe
if setting blind and blind is goad
g.game.cutrent_rojdn.failed = false

if comtexf.indiivdual and not context.othefcard:is_suit(“spades”) then
make it true again

[frigid mica]

when you use clubs, hearts, and diamonds or whatever, you lose

[woven orchid]

i’m sorry i’m so fucking tired and also maybe just took 3 consecutive 10 minute naps

i don’t know what just happened tbh

[frigid mica]

WHY IS EVERYONE ASLEEP WHILE IT'S FUCKING 4PM OUT HERE

I HATE TIMEZONES

RAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[woven orchid]

it’s midnight here and i’m a good kitty and get my beauty rest

except when i don’t

[deft ore]

midnight here

[woven orchid]

which was today

[woven orchid]

hi california

[lime stratus]

im so confused

[exotic belfry]

3am lmao

[past lava]

it's 3 am for me
i'm so tired

[frigid mica]

i'll just let it spawn using pseudorandom for now.

[lime stratus]

trying to use the serpent omen card from entropy and it just crashes

looking in the log it mentions stuff from ortalab, more fluff, and unstable

[frigid mica]

crreensoht

screnheos

shcrenoshote

scnreenshto

[woven orchid]

am i dehydrated or am i alsayd this lighthhesf

[frigid mica]

lihntheaded is anunderstntement

[past lava]

???

[frigid mica]

SCREENSHO-

[woven orchid]

i do not recommend taking three consecutive ten minute naps guys

bad fucking idea

[frigid mica]

i hat shool... or cooleeg

[lime stratus]

over how long

[woven orchid]

40 minutes ish

[past lava]

why did everyone get a lobotomy

[magic gale]

i listened to this on repeat for 10 minutes while making my bed

[woven orchid]

me personally i got hypnotized

[frigid mica]

i'm just stressed the fuck out of my mind trying to figure out how to use mod.calculate, dw

[deft ore]

i think it might actually be not needed for this

[frigid mica]

let me guess, you're gonna tell me to use take_ownership this time

[deft ore]

no lmao

i think it might be fine in just normal calculate unless you want this to be outside of a joker

[frigid mica]

beat the goad using only spades to spawn astro

[frigid mica]

i'm not using a joker or a conusmable to spawn a secret joker

[chilly pine]

hey guys do you like spaghetti code

[deft ore]

oh you do need global mod calc then

[deft ore]

it better not have fifteen million variables named fucking

[chilly pine]

no theyre named normally this time

for the most part

[frigid mica]

fifteen million variables named "normally"

[dusty token]

to_big_n

[alpine cosmos]

blindside's lovely file has reached 1000 lines of code!!! 🎉 🎉

[chilly pine]

the other 5 million is named fucking

[frigid mica]

i should use frost utils

[chilly pine]

233 lines of code for text

❤️

[alpine cosmos]

lets gooo

[chilly pine]

this is so jank

[young timber]

smartest dev ever?

[chilly pine]

doing this because pairs is a fuck because it has no order

[frigid mica]

i hate this shit so mcuh

[young timber]

what?

i will go up by one each time

[frigid mica]

how do u use mod.calculae

or wait\

[dusty token]

its unordered actually

[young timber]

so you're doing
if 1 is higher than highest then highest = 1
then 2, then 3, then 4, then blahblha

[dusty token]

ipairs works but stops on nil valurs

[chilly pine]

exactly

[young timber]

i goes up by one

[chilly pine]

thank you frost

[frigid mica]

how o u write "if the goad is beated"

[dusty token]

thats ipairs

[young timber]

wdym

[young timber]

hm

5 years of lua and i dont even know that

[chilly pine]

in this context effects is a table with missing indexes and i want to iterate through it by order

[frigid mica]

how do you write "if goad is beaten"

in context

[young timber]

oh

thats easy

check if boss was goad

[chilly pine]

i think theres a context that is called when a blind is defeated?

idk its been a while since i modded balala

[young timber]

its end_of_round

[woven orchid]

guys do you like my code

[young timber]

lemme check the vbar

[young timber]

what

[vivid seal]

yes

[woven orchid]

i needed to initialize some variables

[chilly pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1438193459025674443/images_7.jpg?ex=69194948&is=6917f7c8&hm=2017c497db69f9080a862425a6aa2f187aa0e5407c1dd18771e21dbdf3f6fb7a&

[young timber]

pirate code mf

[frigid mica]

how do you check if the goad is the boss blind

[chilly pine]

just do local and not set any values

[dusty token]

is that why you cant sleep

[chilly pine]

ez

[woven orchid]

no thats more deeply rooted in my mental state and you dont need to hear about that

this was relatively quick compared to the process of sleeping

[young timber]

start with if context.end_of_round and G.GAME.blind.boss and context.main_eval and G.GAME.blind.??something

[vivid seal]

my bad

[young timber]

lemme find it

[woven orchid]

i could initialize 100,000 variables if i wanted

[chilly pine]

wtf

vscode is... woke?

[young timber]

is this automated?

or by hand

[woven orchid]

its by hand in the same way that i wrote the python script to automatically output it by hand

[chilly pine]

in what situation would you need that much variables

26^2

[dusty token]

locals are limited to 200 vars actually

[chilly pine]

wtf really

[frigid mica]

🐰 ⌚

[young timber]

ft its G.GAME.blind.config.blind.key

so

[frigid mica]

G.GAME.blind.config.blind.key == "goad" or G.GAME.blind.config.blind.goad

[woven orchid]

if i needed to store every number between 1 and 676

[young timber]

if context.end_of_round and G.GAME.blind.boss and context.main_eval and G.GAME.blind.config.blind.key == "bl_goad" then

[chilly pine]

bl_goad

[chilly pine]

why

[young timber]

check the key first

[young timber]

🤮

[woven orchid]

Shorthand

[chilly pine]

the fuck you mean shorthand

[young timber]

why?! just why!??!?

[woven orchid]

there isn't a 67 joke here. 676 is what 26^2 is, the joke is the amount of variables being high not the amount of them specifically

[chilly pine]

hm is 26 squared actually 676

[woven orchid]

stop being rotted

[chilly pine]

oh it is

[woven orchid]

yes

[woven orchid]

what the fuck is furry shades of gay 2

[young timber]

joker sex

[young timber]

uh

[frigid mica]

beating the goad with only spades...

[young timber]

cold beans reference

it was in discussion earlier today

[chilly pine]

can you just initiate multiple variables in seperate lines or does vscode have some hidden textwrapping feat

oh my god

[young timber]

omg it does

[chilly pine]

this is so cursed

[young timber]

i hate it

[chilly pine]

what the fuck

[woven orchid]

yerp

[chilly pine]

local



h,

j = 1      ,




5

[past lava]

hotpot:

[chilly pine]

valid lua code

[young timber]

no errors...

[woven orchid]

i wish there was a lua version of jsfuck

[young timber]

:(

okay then

[woven orchid]

you could probably do it with loadstring or somerhintng

but you still need to actually have a comprehensible word to get loadstring there

[young timber]

what is jsfuck, and why is it illegal

[woven orchid]

i dont know why google does that

[chilly pine]

wdym

[strong obsidian]

Very bad. No no.

[young timber]

some1 help SMODS.blueprint() no work in #💻・modding-dev

[chilly pine]

jsfuck took me to esoteric programming language and this is so fucking funny

PLEASE GIVE UP

[woven orchid]

intercal is wonderful

[frigid mica]

My brain too stupid to understand shit herelua SMODS.current_mod.calculate = function (self, context) local onlyspades = true if context.individual and not context.other_card:is_suit("Spades") then onlyspades = false if context.end_of_round and G.GAME.blind.boss and context.main_eval and G.GAME.blind.config.blind.key == "bl_goad" and not onlyspades = false then SMODS.add_card{ key = "j_busterb_astro", edition = 'e_negative', stickers = {'eternal'}, force_stickers = true } end end end

[chilly pine]

wonderful language

indeed

this is so goofy

[frigid mica]

Y’all, is this valid

[young timber]

naked print

[chilly pine]

Shakespeare Programming Language

[woven orchid]

stripped down print is absurd work

[vivid seal]

you will never know untill your birthday

[chilly pine]

who the fuck comes up with that

[woven orchid]

shakespeare is the play one right

or is that a different one

it has to be

[chilly pine]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_Programming_Language

[woven orchid]

theres no way theres a language called shakespeare and another language that functions in form of play

[young timber]

im a descendant of shakespear is that cool?

[chilly pine]

oh my god whats chef programming language

[young timber]

it is by like 15 generations tho

[woven orchid]

guys

do i donate $2.75 to wikipedia

[chilly pine]

WHAT THE FUCK

😭

[sudden fjord]

thats a lot of oil

[young timber]

ultrakgijragofk agreqi

ultrakill ref4regfvd

reverfre

afgijadf

adfsiajfgaefg

[woven orchid]

hop on befunge twin

[sudden fjord]

"mom what are we eating for lunch"
26 fucking liters of oil

[chilly pine]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE

this is fun

[woven orchid]

yummu

[chilly pine]

101 eggs

[sudden fjord]

the ultimate bulk

[woven orchid]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)

[sudden fjord]

or the ultimate trip to the hospital

[woven orchid]

whitespace is awesome because you can comment your code by just typing

[chilly pine]

this might be the best wiki article

[frigid mica]

xdddddddd

[woven orchid]

its bedtime for everyones favourite kitty

[frigid mica]

goobai

[woven orchid]

trime to collapse again

goodbye

[chilly pine]

oh my god

[frigid mica]

is this how you do it

[chilly pine]

WHAT THE FUCK

[frigid mica]

busted buffoons will never release completely graaaaah

[chilly pine]

this is a gold mine

[young timber]

maybe

🤷‍♂️

[blissful stag]

this is cool now I think

fuck the hand type score thing

I dont care anymore

[young timber]

why does none of my code work 😭

[blissful stag]

this is really fun to watch

[wanton rapids]

oh thats a cool animation

[frigid mica]

how to check for debuffed cards

[lime stratus]

what is absolute and where is it

[wanton rapids]

oh thats from when entropy required cryptid oops

[woven orchid]

3 way crossmod…

[frigid mica]

What the fuck happened to “goodnight”

[plush hound]

play tangents

[gentle citrus]

Well I'm getting closer now.

[vivid seal]

when are we getting 7 way crossmod

[frigid mica]

Watch me

It’s gonna require Cryptid, Entropy, Hot Potato, Paradox’s Stupid Ideas, 900n1’s Gamblepack, Starspace, [SECRET MOD TO BE MADE WHEN I’M DONE DEVELOPING BUSTED BUFFOONS]

[wanton rapids]

was that one thac card 7 way idr

[blissful stag]

perkeo propaganda

[vivid seal]

idk

[spiral monolith]

i tried making a gas station

in space

[olive hamlet]

something about cryptlib being registered as cryptid

had to make some fixes to specifically distinguish cryptlib from cryptid for mine for instance

[plush hound]

i just realized leftmost card is literally just first played card

[wanton rapids]

nope i just dont check for cryptid there because the crossmod is old

[north salmon]

<@&1133519078540185692> kill this guy

[dusty token]

thats crazy

[distant badge]

that's a new one

[chilly pine]

initiate testicular torture

[plush hound]

weelon

[distant badge]

button so small it inverts the text

[hard plank]

my mod

oops

[distant badge]

i play with your mod installed all of the time...

[hard plank]

same lol

[gentle citrus]

I'm so close to getting the jpeg shader done but I'm having issue with how the offset functions

[hard plank]

he's going for naneinf on adequate

[blissful stag]

I HATE crossmod content

[plush hound]

art

[round ore]

What should I do

[fallow bramble]

Photochad on crack

[plush hound]

no one can retrigger that shit bro

[fallow bramble]

Report it to cryposting

[plush hound]

when was the last time you play modded

1304a sounds old

[hard plank]

incogniton

[round ore]

today vro

[hard plank]

update your shit

[hard plank]

that's like 10 months old

[round ore]

tf why is ithis

[plush hound]

peak artist

[hard plank]

you're dead

[blissful stag]

what can i even do for crossmod content

[hard plank]

everything here is extremely old

[blissful stag]

thats not nice

[plush hound]

???????

[blissful stag]

Im sure theyre relatively young

[plush hound]

@fallow bramble content

[hard plank]

add aikoshen cross mod

[plush hound]

sdm got bakery

like, actual breads

[blissful stag]

I heart bakery

[round ore]

so what is this

[blissful stag]

oh

what do you want me to make an icecream sandwich

[plush hound]

android

[round ore]

yeah yall

[olive hamlet]

mobile
cannot help at this point unfortunately

[round ore]

no you got me 🙁

[blissful stag]

gulp

[fallow bramble]

Bakery cards mentioned 💪

[plush hound]

I MEAN

sure

you can also make condiments

for breads

[blissful stag]

you mean spreads???

[plush hound]

THAT

[hard plank]

can't help

[distant badge]

i think i need to work on adding more modifiers eventually

[hard plank]

wtf

[distant badge]

what

[ivory sinew]

Bad news. They finally got my ass

Good news. I'm using my music for Madcap in my art show

[olive hamlet]

fuck that system
wants to dox you by forcing you to hand over your id or such

[ivory sinew]

Nah I just showed em my 12-year old email

Since you gotta be 13 to have an email that technically means I am at LEAST 18, so checkmate liberals

[distant badge]

aikoyori.. please elaborate....

[olive hamlet]

sorry, got a bit paranoid with all the news regarding discord or other platforms forcing people to show their id to use platforms

[ivory sinew]

Aikoyoris brain hurty

[blissful stag]

i made one of my emails when I was like 7 dude there was a limit?

[gentle citrus]

I don't know what went wrong but I start to feel like I broke somehow with the texture_details

and trying to understand.

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah werent they going to ban github at one point(?) not anymore i hope

[ivory sinew]

Yeah that would be like 15 9/11s

[hard plank]

it looks like my blind icons....

[distant badge]

oh yeah...

[ivory sinew]

Wow Opal. Why did you steal

Stealing is BAAAAAAAAAYUD

[olive hamlet]

they didnt renouce that
so its still on the plans

I am not willing to dox myself to continue to access github

[distant badge]

they're actually slightly different if youll notice

[ivory sinew]

I'm Blind so I cannot notice

[hard plank]

he's still doing it

[distant badge]

blind icons from aikoyori's shenanigans have an inverted border inside the outer border... modifiers from opalstuff are closer to tags and have a solid gray inner border...

[wanton rapids]

i swear they took it off the list

[dusty token]

z

[hard plank]

what platform

[olive hamlet]

hmm I see for now

[distant badge]

lego play is dangerous...

[blissful stag]

what the hell is lego ply

[plush hound]

i remember them planning to ban GitHub for Child Safety Act

[wanton rapids]

thats the youtube ui styling right

[hard plank]

oh yeah

[storm forum]

-# And that's my in-place reinstall of 10 done.

[ivory sinew]

YouTube.

[vivid seal]

LEGO PLAY 🔥

[stable juniper]

aikoyori

[hard plank]

hi

[stable juniper]

👋^u^

[reef tangle]

discord being there is lowkey such a bad choice 😭

[gentle citrus]

Honestly there is helpful channels

[dusty token]

4️⃣

[hard plank]

4

i need to innovate

[full edge]

Time to introduce dialogue options and life sim elements to aikoshen

[grand geode]

do i make a second pm mod to add limbus events

[mint flame]

you need to be able to date the jokers

[full edge]

Yes

[grand geode]

weh

mod with only theencounter events and bullshit blinds

[mint flame]

sock and buskin

[full edge]

I'm 17 jokers away from my 1.0 goal. Gonna not allow myself to make those soon and focus on polish stuff first because I just know I'll keep postponing that stuff otherwise

Also need to set some time aside to update the wiki soon. It being out of date is also bad for me checking stuff out, hahaha

[grand geode]

i recorded a new video of this boss and publicized it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCvRlWxJoSU

[alpine cosmos]

four

[grand geode]

i need to re-polish this

it broke so much after a few smods updates

[wanton rapids]

what the hell

[grand geode]

the suspiciously 5-playing-cards-shaped myst:

[full edge]

There was no easy way to do drop-down menus, right?

Oh, btw, FirstTry, did you switch to Cryptlib for the valuemanip stuff?

[frigid mica]

Hey ice, I’m sorry but I don’t like how blockbuster’s vm stuff works

So I switched to cryptlib

[full edge]

I noticed. No worries. The new design you changed to is also a lot easier in Cryptlib

Your original design was a permeating effect, which Blockbuster handles more robustly, but just repeated, non tracked value manip is Cryptlib's jam, for sure

[wanton rapids]

should i take it ?

[hard plank]

what

[full edge]

And your design philosophy is way more cryptid oriented, too, of course, so a lot of Blockbuster's design stuff just adds complexity you don't really need. Though I'm definitely looking at what you were running into to make it easier to set up, soon

[frigid mica]

I was originally looking to copy dongtong’s ability, which doesn’t actually use cryptlib or blockbuster vm

[ivory sinew]

Is that a ZOOM

[grand geode]

what

[full edge]

I recommend keeping the Compat Standard in your mod, though! I can check it out and see if it's set up properly. It being there will never impede with anything normally, but it'll make it more seemless when Blockbuster compat mods are used too!

[ivory sinew]

When u first select the blind

[grand geode]

yes

[ivory sinew]

In game?

[grand geode]

that is a camera zoom

yes

[ivory sinew]

NICE

[full edge]

But yeah, I'm definitely gonna change some set up stuff to make it easier to use. Still need to figure out the details of it because the main reason the set up of BB is different from Cryptlib is that I want the simplest way to use the api to be one that makes Value Manipulation a more vanilla-suitable mechanic

Which is why the default assumption is that the effects don't repeat, aren't permanent, and same-source boosts don't multiplicatively stack. But that's Cryptlib's exact goal, ofc

[ivory sinew]

Starbuck's... in Balatro...

[frigid mica]

Oh yeah about that, there are some issues I run into when keeping bbvmapi on

[ivory sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEcz2TXqQ8U

This is fune

[frigid mica]

Arithmetics and all that

[grand geode]

thanks

its just a funny visualization

[full edge]

For the vanilla jokers?

If you have more specifics I'd love to know but generally a sign I should just test more with cryptid and bbvm

[frigid mica]

Since I’m out here in the mall, I can’t test it out again but

Iirc

It tried performing arithmetic on xmult, a table value

[gentle citrus]

Got a dumb idea that might be crazy enough for it to work, what if I were to like make the Deltarune phrofency but as an edition?

[full edge]

Oh that's odd behavior for sure. Don't worry about trying to reproduce it, I clearly just need more time spent tinkering on Cryptid compat

[frigid mica]

Is lily active? I wanna ask her how lordly edition display works

[full edge]

Trying to block out how I'll set up the run-specific config for the user

Oh oops that should've gone to the Kino channel

[plush hound]

i thought Playsets were going to be a different Mod

[full edge]

I might make this an API as well. Just using the term here because it's a similar principle

But the goal is just to let you experience more specific versions of Kino rather than the kitchen sink of mechanics

The separate mod would allow you to easily share playsets. Not sure yet if I'd set this up the dame way, for example. Though we'll see. Main thing is that I really feel a mod as big as Kino kinda needs this, haha

I wanna set it up so you basically have presets of run types that are just 150 jokers, 8 enhancements and 4 seals, or about that number, with a bunch of possible set ups

But with 510 jokers total once I'm finished (that's +vanilla, ofc), that makes for a whole bunch of possible variations

[plush hound]

theres some people that usually calls that "Rulesets"

but Playsets works too

and that'd be great since there's probably some avid player who wants to experience Kino in a different ways after playing it fully in it's core

it'd be cool if it was user-friendly too since knowing Balatro fans, they just can't read most of the times

[full edge]

That'll be the main goal. First implementation will be a Galdur dependency at least. I'm imagining the core playsets to have a joker art to represent them, so you can navigate it easily.

Saving the term ruleset because ideally, as part of the run config, I want you to be able to adjust things as well, like specific spawn rates, etc. Potentially also gonna figure out if I can disable stickers being earned if you change those, but we'll see about that

[young timber]

whats the key prefix for blinds?

wait

no decks

[frigid mica]

how do you check for debuffed cards

[full edge]

I want you to be able to adjust the rate of each consumables, etc. And mess with rarities, adjust the sensitivity on timing based mechanics. Though part of that'll be bleeding into Glue, I guess, so this is mainly me just planning it out so I know what to focus on, and what would be realistic, haha

[plush hound]

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