⚙・modding-general

[rain orbit]

My house is always 80 degrees even in the summer

Why

[stable juniper]

so just wanted a Joker to relate to

[magic brook]

its just kinda unique

[stable juniper]

this had better be farenheit ;u;

[magic brook]

ok i asked fellow devs for a solution

[rain orbit]

It's uncommon

[vital zealot]

what do yall think

[stable juniper]

sorry guys, i fixed him but the surgery didn't go well

[rain orbit]

Whoopsie

[stable juniper]

am a bit of a quack 🦆

[rain orbit]

I have 4 ducks

[stable juniper]

quaaaa

^u^

[rain orbit]

And 50 million chickens

And no eggs

[stable juniper]

🚫

[oblique hound]

Heh, great minds think alike lol

[distant badge]

now what if vertical

[magic brook]

i added a chicken

that lays negative eggs

yeah imma work on balatrue later

srry

what?

[limber oak]

scammed

[magic brook]

dunno

[stable juniper]

you have Phanta's Starter Packs enabled

balance reasons ^^

^^;

it should say, true

HEHEHEHEHE

infinite loop >:3

[buoyant kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tgxSOX3uMfY prime specimen

amazing

[buoyant kestrel]

this is a good example of what a cat looks like

most cat cat

[stable juniper]

another good example

[buoyant kestrel]

real!

[round pilot]

waiter waiter! theres no drama in my modding chat

[stable juniper]

grrrrrrrr i hate everyoneeeeee >:(

[buoyant kestrel]

quick, someone bring up wording

[stable juniper]

ping victin >:3

[honest sluice]

Wording

[round pilot]

uh

I am ping victin

[stable juniper]

yaaaaaaaaaaaa i told u i needed to fix that :3c

[past lava]

blah blah blah xchips blah blah blah

[buoyant kestrel]

i ship mult and chips

[stable juniper]

smut and ships

[buoyant kestrel]

real!!!!!!

[feral bloom]

@dusty token @woven crag just wanted to let you both know i got it working again, turns out DebugPlusPlus was the problem

DebugPlus works fine

[deft ore]

do not bring his ass in here

[feral bloom]

its specifically DebugPlusPlus lol

[dusty token]

cool

you should report the bug in dpp forum

[round pilot]

a minor typo is his batsignal

[rain orbit]

Tv world when

[alpine cosmos]

hi gamers

[past lava]

i'm gonna guess that galactic jokers are over powered

[round pilot]

a unique downside to an op card???? UNHEARD OF

WITCH I SAY WITCH

[alpine cosmos]

oaugh god i hate creating new consumable sets cause it means im gonna have to think of a new primary concept to base it around

oh thats fun

[past lava]

an actual creative op joker idea???
WITCH!!!!

[alpine cosmos]

yeah thats very creative

[past lava]

yeah

[alpine cosmos]

i like it

[deft ore]

i like it yeah

[alpine cosmos]

this is the third time im reworking the runic card set because like i cannot get it down

[buoyant kestrel]

❌

[round pilot]

coward

[alpine cosmos]

should i just make my own custom pantheon of gods????

cause like basing it off of other religions feels too cultural appropriate-y

[buoyant kestrel]

gods of balatro

based on aspects of the game

[woven crag]

its +2 to everything

isnt it

[alpine cosmos]

that

oh

oh i like that

[woven crag]

ITS CALLED +2

NOT X2

scammed

smh!

[round pilot]

god of hand levels (cyan)
god of money (yellow)
god of chips (blue)
god of mult (red)
god of probabilities (green)

[woven crag]

chult

[round pilot]

these are the five gods of balatro

[buoyant kestrel]

god of man (jokers)

[woven crag]

absolut e radiance

[alpine cosmos]

Orbit, Cashut, Stakk, Thymes, Chanz

[round pilot]

|e°|

[woven crag]

why is there a degrees sign

[buoyant kestrel]

radiance

[round pilot]

idk what the radians sign is

[woven crag]

radiance explicitly isnt degrees though

[buoyant kestrel]

i know

[woven crag]

thats like the whole point

[buoyant kestrel]

this is the explanation

[woven crag]

there isnt

at least not that i know of

[round pilot]

ok so its the closest I could get

[buoyant kestrel]

radians unit is r now real

official

[woven crag]

because half the point is having a measurement of angles that doesnt have a unit like degrees

also radians are more epic

[round pilot]

why????

[stone rampart]

its either nothing or rad i think
like 2pi rad or just 2pi
lemme chekc

[deft ore]

radians are awesome

[woven crag]

because you dont use units in mathematics typically

[round pilot]

ok sure

why not

[woven crag]

that only gets added in physics

and stuff

[buoyant kestrel]

radians are considered default because many calculations are built with them so using degrees is a pain in the ass if you aren't just using calculator functions

[round pilot]

my elementary school teacher made me provide units for nothing then 😭

[buoyant kestrel]

john "divide by 180" degree

[stone rampart]

answer: it is nothing or rad

[woven crag]

its already talismanless smh

[round pilot]

so one full rotation would be 1 rad?

[woven crag]

i mean elementary school is different usually

[round pilot]

or something like that

[woven crag]

no

full rotation is 2pi rad

[buoyant kestrel]

we're pying it

[woven crag]

oh ok

[buoyant kestrel]

emult is shrimple even without talisman

[woven crag]

i was going to say kid named cryptlib

also that

[round pilot]

alright sure why the hell not

[deft ore]

no estuff is more of a balance thing i think

[buoyant kestrel]

kid named [copying] cryptlib

[deft ore]

except family feud apparently

[round pilot]

I cant be payed to give a shit anymore math makes no sense

[buoyant kestrel]

though like you probably shouldn't

due to e limit

(so that also means that talisman stuff should be off if talisman ain't set to 'omeganum')

[woven crag]

its because 1 radian is equivalent to the angle after moving a distance of 1 along the circumfrence of a circle with a radius of 1

and a full circle with a radius of 1 has a circumfrence of 2pi

[buoyant kestrel]

((they killed bignum if you didn't know))

[woven crag]

so 2pi radians

[round pilot]

why isnt there a measurement where 1 rotation is just 1 smh

there could be NO issues with that

NONE

NADA

[buoyant kestrel]

revolutions real

???

[halcyon dune]

If anyone here is in the Balatro multiplayer discord, could you please send me an invite? I’ve been trying to join for over two weeks, but I keep getting a message saying my account is suspicious

[round pilot]

yea like that but I made it

[distant badge]

radians if they were divided by 2pi:

[buoyant kestrel]

you are NOT john revolution

[round pilot]

sending you an invite wouldnt change that

[buoyant kestrel]

rotation invented in 2025 ahh

[round pilot]

its probably because of how new your account is

[dusty token]

account isnt old enough

probably abt a month

[deft ore]

im inventing a new unit the half-revolution

one revolution is 2 half-revolutions

[buoyant kestrel]

this is pi-ist propaganda

[round pilot]

the humble pi:

[buoyant kestrel]

tau for the win

[deft ore]

i HATE pi

cake better

[round pilot]

lies

[buoyant kestrel]

dog

[deft ore]

dog

[round pilot]

why do you have a yellow lided storage bin

[buoyant kestrel]

christmas

[round pilot]

those are for the garage

[buoyant kestrel]

the decorations escape around this time of year

[round pilot]

eaely

ealriy

ealty

im gonna kill someone

[past lava]

don't

[round pilot]

ok

[woven crag]

this is just called the number of rotations

[latent crescent]

I love debug silent crashes

[lime siren]

Do

[round pilot]

ok

[dusty token]

hello gonna kill someone

im frost

[round pilot]

ive found the victim

[vital zealot]

this is bad for my first mashup but yall see the vision right

[lime siren]

Can you choose someone else 🙏

[round pilot]

no they made a dad joke

[static pewter]

i like the mongolian throat singing

[vital zealot]

the songs are opportunities by bet shop boys and turn a turn by the turn a gundam people

[stable juniper]

hehehehehe :3

[vital zealot]

thats pitching up but yeah your right

[stone rampart]

dog

[buoyant kestrel]

this should be in the thread but i don't care

so you know how cryptid has the three gamesets where the game get easier with higher gamesets

what if pandora's box's (cryptid ortalab's) gamesets make the game harder

[magic brook]

vro

wouldnt that just be 1 / 2

[buoyant kestrel]

John "Conversion Between Two Units" Opal

[distant badge]

first name nickname first name...

[magic brook]

yo yeah uhhhh

[buoyant kestrel]

yes...

four gamesets

[vital zealot]

guys should i put the original in my mod

[buoyant kestrel]

i can't think of something that starts with w for the 'modest' gameset lmao

[past lava]

wodest

[buoyant kestrel]

balatrue

[distant badge]

well-done

[buoyant kestrel]

real and neo!!

nice

though i'm not using it because i thought of a better idea for the gamesets that involves not following w

gamesets become 'Judgements'

and each of the judgements have upsides and downsides

[round pilot]

I leave now

[buoyant kestrel]

@fair thistle i like you so i want to see what you think

[stable juniper]

numbers!!

[buoyant kestrel]

true and neo!!

also they will be per run

because why not

i want to make sure people know about them and try them

you get that Judgement pack when you start a run

[neat tree]

oops

[buoyant kestrel]

oops! all wins!

[neat tree]

for some reason the game actually doesn't let me win lmao

i kinda had to cheat with debugplus

[buoyant kestrel]

talisman

[neat tree]

ah of course

[buoyant kestrel]

negative 2

[stable juniper]

YAY

[neat tree]

this thing is so busted

[feral bloom]

okie

[buoyant kestrel]

shop slot scaling joker would go decent

as in it scales based on the slots

not scaling the slots

[granite forum]

aww man

[deft ore]

what if shop slots were one operator higher and they scaled

[buoyant kestrel]

you do not want 1000 shop slots

[granite forum]

^^^2 shop slots

[buoyant kestrel]

cursed joker

[granite forum]

yes

creates 6{67]7 negative jokers when blind is selected

trust

killme

[buoyant kestrel]

john "secretly set max fps to 0" gaslighting

[distant badge]

the humble maurice moss:

[granite forum]

who do you think you are changing my logo

there better be a config to turn it off

phew

[stable juniper]

:3c

lucky you, i added that config recently :>

[granite forum]

and i can turn off joker animations hm

[woven orchid]

i like mods with custom logos

[granite forum]

not a config i would've asked for but i like it in retrospect

wha
more stakes
hm

hm

[keen knoll]

you should install my mod too

[stable juniper]

candy

[vital zealot]

play my mod

[granite forum]

no

[vital zealot]

😠

[keen knoll]

pls ?

[granite forum]

me too

[keen knoll]

:( after?

but....

[deft ore]

candy asking just makes people annoyed

arguably makes people less likely to play

[stable juniper]

not arguably

[granite forum]

all of these decks just for canary yellow to be the only good one

[deft ore]

❌

[buoyant kestrel]

it can certainly be argued about

[deft ore]

stormcaught my goat

[granite forum]

nvm mean green

[buoyant kestrel]

which letter should be shortened

i will not stand for this

[deft ore]

the A

[stable juniper]

i'd argue there's also the totally balanced and not broken Trickster Deck too 😇

[granite forum]

n

[deft ore]

theres two ns though

[buoyant kestrel]

it would be very obvious if i only changed one

[granite forum]

yeah just do all 3

[buoyant kestrel]

three????

[granite forum]

i see 3 ns

1

2

3

[deft ore]

are you okay

how many rs are there in strawberry

[deft ore]

kitty

[granite forum]

canary yellow deck hm

[stable juniper]

oh ya @granite forum i'd like to say, please criticise my mod if you have any issues with it ^^

feedback is awesome and i will thank you for it

[buoyant kestrel]

shortening the a looked like shit but i realized i could cut off e

perfect

[stable juniper]

oh hehe btw fun fact about Canary Yellow Deck, it's the only way to bring a Mail-In Rebate into Phanta White Stake :3

[distant badge]

blueprint

[main path]

dithering or no dithering

[buoyant kestrel]

dithering it

(left)

[worn dagger]

Dither

[stable juniper]

Death Note separates the embedded systems from the PCs >:3

-# [ref: separates the mice from the men]

WAIT YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

🎉

sakujo!!!!!!!!

[wispy canopy]

please 🥺🥺🥺🥺🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[graceful escarp]

please hes asking so nicely

[deft ore]

its called love2d for a reason

[distant badge]

do these (non-tag) objects look better with more rounded or less rounded corners?

[buoyant kestrel]

implement a 3d renderer easy

[wispy canopy]

easy

[deft ore]

less rounded

[buoyant kestrel]

https://github.com/3dreamengine/3DreamEngine mayhaps this?

[deft ore]

more distinct from tags

[wispy canopy]

Wrong! all 3d games are 2d

[keen knoll]

h

[wispy canopy]

god this is so peak

wasnt there a mod that added doom to balatro

[stable juniper]

the what

🤯

[keen knoll]

^

[stable juniper]

WAIT WHAT

WHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHAT

GAMBLING WORKS

and the silly thing is

your chances of getting another negative with Death Note are higher :3

[harsh rose]

guys does anyone know how to fix the multiplayer mod error "attempting to connect to outdated server"^

[deft ore]

update your mods

[harsh rose]

ill try

[buoyant kestrel]

what if my message was one operator higher and it scaled

[limber plaza]

Is there a mod that lets you control the rate modded content spawns?

[stable juniper]

Ortalab and Phanta both add modded-only stakes, but i assume that's not what you want ^^;

[harsh rose]

tysm i got it to work

[distant badge]

the devious square array:

[limber plaza]

Thank you for letting me know but I was more thinking about having certain modded content be rarer

[stable juniper]

bejewltro!!!

[deft ore]

if you install less modded content then less modded content will spawn

[limber plaza]

I mean true

[stable juniper]

oo if you wanna ban specific Jokers, you can use the mod called Banner

[distant badge]

now i need to put it above the deck

[stable juniper]

that... kinda does that ish

[limber plaza]

Alright thank you

[honest zephyr]

uh. 3

[stable juniper]

oh there's 4 actually

[distant badge]

there's a secret one between the two rs in a row

[stable juniper]

1. stRawberry
2. strawbeRry
3. strawberRy
4. you just know it's there

[buoyant kestrel]

strrawberry

[stable juniper]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMINGGAMING

[neon urchin]

the invisible joker is false

they arent invisible

they are transparent

this is why i HATE balatro

[deft ore]

if the joker's called invisible then why can i destroy it

checkmate atheists

[neon urchin]

if the joker's called invisible then why is it visible...!!! checkmate woker

[stable juniper]

if it's an invisible joker, then why, then, then why is, is why is it that

localthunk forgot to localthink about that one

[distant badge]

ok this feels much better than the old system i was using

[stable juniper]

WHAT

WHAT IS IT

[neon urchin]

if the joker's called invisible then why did you pee your pants huh?

[stable juniper]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

also poly test page :3 nice

| < your deck

ikyori's shenanigans

(i don't know what made me think of that)

(🥛)

[silent thistle]

what weird stuff do you have to play now for that?

great, just great

[buoyant kestrel]

5 ore cards
ortalab cryptid

[silent thistle]

k

[young timber]

@fair thistle is this rare?

wow

[silent thistle]

Brainstorm but 2

Sure thing.

[neon urchin]

gobble gobble

[silent thistle]

I am... eepy

It is... 2 am

[keen knoll]

u shiuld play my mod too

[young timber]

github?

im sure theres room on hte list

[keen knoll]

https://github.com/etherware-novice/neonflame

[harsh rose]

does anybody have a second to chat about a bug im experiencing

[young timber]

mitosis

[deft ore]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[young timber]

😛

[harsh rose]

whoops

[young timber]

how many of these do you have

always a different website

[deft ore]

just the one

[stable juniper]

candy

[young timber]

nahnah you have another

[deft ore]

its not my website i dont host it

[young timber]

ik that

i see

[harsh rose]

i wanted to ask if anybody is experiencing a weird glitch when switching decks to start a run with steammodded
i tried disabling every mod, even trying different versions of steammodded and lovely and it still happened

[young timber]

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[deft ore]

what's the weird glitch

[young timber]

i see now

[harsh rose]

for a split second the back of the selected deck's cards appears at the bottom of my screen

idk if i can send videos here

[young timber]

i think thats just how smods handles it

[young timber]

u need the role

[harsh rose]

i just wanted to know if it happens to anyone else or if its just a me thing

[young timber]

id:customize

[young timber]

js ignore it 🤷‍♂️

[deft ore]

this happens to me too yeah

[young timber]

i think its how smods makes the thing actually appear

[harsh rose]

damn, unlucky

these small things bother me so much for some reason

[woven orchid]

i believe this is due to that being the default location of cards before they are positioned properly in the deck

similarly you will notice sometimes text is orphaned in the top left because thats where the "default" position is

[harsh rose]

so there's just no way to fix it

unfortunate

[young timber]

@fair thistle is this yuri

[keen knoll]

you shouldplay my mod

[young timber]

ur mods on

jeez

[keen knoll]

oh

[stable juniper]

candy

[keen knoll]

yyou should play my mod

[stable juniper]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[stable juniper]

can you not

[keen knoll]

pls

[young timber]

alr

[stable juniper]

awesome work!!!!!! i've never seen a naneinf with Phanta before!

the sillies helped out :3c

[distant badge]

play my mod i add more clutter to your screen

[keen knoll]

pleasee

[stable juniper]

this does not look good on your public record

i tell you to stop begging, and you beg more

[keen knoll]

???

[alpine cosmos]

collect my pages

[young timber]

cbean general is the closest im getting to a balala modding vc 💔

[stable juniper]

i want to help

i really do

[young timber]

👨‍❤️‍👨

[keen knoll]

um

[stable juniper]

🫠

[harsh rose]

also is it normal that the scoring after playing my hand starts after a brief pause

[stable juniper]

thanku!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[keen knoll]

.................

[harsh rose]

its barely noticeable but its definitely longer than unmodded, like .2 seconds or something

[stable juniper]

oh astro can i get your opinion on this

so Phanta, right

got lots of Jokers

i wanna keep adding things to it

but also, that mayyyyyy eventually and slowly cause bloat

i had considered a Lite version a while ago, but gave that up

[keen knoll]

.....

[young timber]

my point being that i randomly joined, and thunder is on the violin

[buoyant kestrel]

.

[stable juniper]

do i make a new mod to add new things to, or do i ignore the bloat thing, or do i make a Lite version?

fairfair ^u^

[woven orchid]

i was acctually going to do similar with valk

except lite mode was going to be a config option which just loaded different files

[buoyant kestrel]

i turned a balatro challenge concept into its own game real

[young timber]

jam join the voicechat

[woven orchid]

and it was more going to be how intrusive of gameplay do you want vallkarri

[buoyant kestrel]

enough room to expand lmfao

[stable juniper]

o i see!

WAIT SO TRUE HEHE

i'd love for there to be a gameset mod

[keen knoll]

neonflame gamesets??

[stable juniper]

and mods can define gamesets to choose between

[woven orchid]

gamesets for balancing is dumb imo
but gamesets for "how intrusive do you want the mods gameplay" i think would be way cooler

[keen knoll]

neonflame?

[stable juniper]

there's not enough in Neonflame for that

[keen knoll]

um

[stable juniper]

hey so candy, i've given you lots of leeway, but blocking you is an option on my table now

it's a lot easier than dealing with your whining

[keen knoll]

whhhhhh

dontpls

[buoyant kestrel]

chat so uhh should i make placeholder a planet

seems cool

[full edge]

I'm setting up a run config for Kino that lets you customize stuff during deck selection. Will make it so you can have the game select a random series of joker packages so you end up with 150 jokers and 5 enhancements, instead of the 335 and 8 enhancements the mod has now

[deft ore]

what does it level up

[random chasm]

william afton is cool

[buoyant kestrel]

idfk i just thought of using it lol

[woven orchid]

question mark enhancement from aikoshen

[buoyant kestrel]

level up last played hand?
and it does shader stuff to show the planet for that periodically

[full edge]

I think part of that will also be me providing some thematic presets for content. Main thing is that I'd want that type of content filtering to be really easily Accessible because relaunching the game or going to the mod config every time seems like effort, haha

[woven orchid]

i considered making each individual file of my mod toggleable but i was not sure if it would get that much use

it would be cool but it would not get that much use

[full edge]

If someone wants to be that granular, I'll just recommend them banner, haha

[honest zephyr]

same i'll. Probably do that

[woven orchid]

"disable overrides.lua trust me bro"

[full edge]

But I think being able to select 'Robots & Monsters' after you picked your deck and sleeve so you get ~150 focused on Sci-Fi & Horror movies seems like a more interesting and fun way to go about it. Granularity is nice, but I also want to prevent players needing to design their own experience

[full edge]

Ideally I just offer a few thematic sets that will filter the jokers out based on playstyle and theme. Same for enhancements and seals. They can do the granularity themselves as well, but that's only for the nerds who'd enjoy it, haha

[untold hound]

i have brainstorm installed but i cant find it.

[rain orbit]

Fanta

[harsh glacier]

santa 🎅

[rain orbit]

How is it 66 mult and chips if it's 3 hands and 0 discards

[random chasm]

it scales

[rain orbit]

Oh

Like

You get what per hand and discard

+1 chip and mult?

[random chasm]

yeah

both at the same time

i think it's about as good as the other scaling mult jokers

[honest zephyr]

joker based on big money deluxe

[distant badge]

im starting to realise how this is a little busted

[random chasm]

what are modifiers supposed to be

[granite forum]

wow phanta

so balanced

[distant badge]

passive jokers i guess?

all the others are pretty passive but this one is just weird

say that again...

[stable juniper]

one of a few metas discovered :>

[granite forum]

grate is very overpowered because waxed is so easy to get

[random chasm]

isn't it practically just burnt joker but better without a joker slot

well

not just because that's a really strong effect

[granite forum]

also so many references and i feel outside of the little bubble

witch's mark feels boring unless you get the reference which i don't

[distant badge]

maybe i could have it level up every Nth hand played or something

[granite forum]

also hanafudas are very powerful and some are just tarot/spectral cards

and sculpter is really underpowered

[honest zephyr]

fuckin...
gains +1 mult when money gain is expressed with a number instead of dollar signs

[rain orbit]

Balatrue is overpowered

[latent crescent]

but what about lovely patches?

[stable juniper]

📝

[granite forum]

beekeper should be 1 maybe 2

because it is just such free score

so much Xmult on enhancements as well

like 3 xmult enhancements

all of them are

there could be a lot more done

[rain orbit]

I have a blind that gets rid of all enhancements and editions on played cards

[stable juniper]

this is true :D i'll make that 3 > 2 now

i won't be changing Marble because of its synergy with unscored cards

also yeah, lots of xmult ^^;

maybe waxed could be changed a little, its xmult was the bare minimum for it to be useful on its own

its main purpose is for the grates

[granite forum]

lily is really weak

worse stuntman

[rain orbit]

Waxed lightly weathered cut copper stairs

[untold hound]

im having problems with a mod where can i go for help?

[stable juniper]

you're in the right place!

[stable juniper]

this is true, they are also slightly less rare than spectrals though

that's the balance

(which Manga so elegantly throws out the window :3)

[untold hound]

here is my issue. i have brainstorm installed and enabled but it doesn't show up in settings like ive seen in other places

[stable juniper]

i don't quite see how — what makes you say so?

[woven orchid]

reference

[granite forum]

omg

[stable juniper]

:O!!!!!!!!!!! BULLSEYE

[granite forum]

i thought you had to play just 1 diamond

now that i see it

still bad

but not play 1 card bad

[stable juniper]

right ^u^

[rain orbit]

Download balagay

[stable juniper]

^^^^^ peak

[granite forum]

idk

still mid

[rain orbit]

It turns every mention of straight into gay

[woven orchid]

peak

🏳️‍⚧️ ← also peakm

[stable juniper]

🫠

btw y'all are valid :3

[woven orchid]

i probably needed to hear that today

[stable juniper]

girlie!!!!!! or other preferred gender honourific if i missed something

[rain orbit]

I need a dr pepper

[woven orchid]

girlie is lovely

[granite forum]

not cool

diet cola compat mindset

[stable juniper]

oh whoops ;u; bug

intended for that to be compatible

[daring sluice]

say that again

[woven orchid]

maybe i have a brain worm but i will genuinely accept being called any name so long as its feminine and clearly referring to me

it just happens that lily is feminine and also usually is pretty clearly referring to me

[daring sluice]

womanslop

[stable juniper]

my favourite girl :3

[daring sluice]

this is your name now

[woven orchid]

im love it

mcdonmal

[rain orbit]

22 heads of lettuce in the pantry

[alpine cosmos]

it/its pronouns based

[woven orchid]

im 309 words out of a 550 word essay am i goated or not

started 90 minutes ago because im a bit slow

[stable juniper]

goated for starting!

[alpine cosmos]

oooh nice!!!

thats really decent for where you're at

[woven orchid]

its due 2 weeks ago but my teachers are nice

[rain orbit]

2 weeks ago is crazy

[woven orchid]

i have no motivation to do anything that isnt logical
my grades in math is crazy good and my grades in english are crazy bad

[rain orbit]

n't

[daring sluice]

if you just become an LLM it'll be logical

[woven orchid]

true!

[alpine cosmos]

ignore the background since thats temp but how are we feeling about this word art

[buoyant kestrel]

nice

[alpine cosmos]

i struggle so much with fonts

[stable juniper]

a weeeeee bit hard to read? otherwise, i like it!

[woven orchid]

i like it but ya i agree it might be a bit hard to read

[harsh rose]

does anyone know how the brainstorm mod works? i have a few questions

[alpine cosmos]

yeahh fair

[woven orchid]

tbh it might be fine with the large gaps as-is if it was just larger

[rain orbit]

I didn't know there was a brainstorm mod until today

[alpine cosmos]

its so hard to get the feel that i want

ooh fair!

[harsh rose]

i was just wondering if theres a way to disable the mod other than just taking it out from the Mods directory, since i dont want it always influencing the seeds i get in my playthroughs

[distant badge]

loyalty card if it levelled up hands:

[alpine cosmos]

is something like this better?

[woven orchid]

ya i think thats much more readable

[alpine cosmos]

nice

[buoyant kestrel]

indeed

[alpine cosmos]

life is so sad
born to make art
forced to make boosters 😔

[daring sluice]

born to write code forced to have no ideas+motivation+vyvanse

[distant badge]

born to content forced to ui

[alpine cosmos]

born to blindside forced to create an entirely new game

[granite forum]

rip to the run

[woven orchid]

inshallah your mult shall be ground to a fiberous powder

[harsh rose]

do you guys know how to disable the brainstorm mod

[granite forum]

turn it off

💡

[harsh rose]

im just using lovely so idk how to do that

i know using steammodded theres an option for that

[woven orchid]

add a file named .lovelyignore into its folder

[granite forum]

the big red button

oh

ah

[harsh rose]

yeah thats steammodded no?

[woven orchid]

me when no steamodded

[granite forum]

wait

no steamodded?

why

[buoyant kestrel]

why no steamodded lmao

[woven orchid]

this tells lovely to Not apply any patches in this folder

[harsh rose]

using steammodded has a couple downsides, there are a few of my mods that dont work well with it i noticed

[alpine cosmos]

why no steamodded yeah

i

[buoyant kestrel]

why are you building mods without steamodded

what is going on

[alpine cosmos]

yeah why what

[harsh rose]

im not building mods lol

[buoyant kestrel]

why are you using lovely mods????

[distant badge]

what mods are you using dude

[granite forum]

??????????????

[woven orchid]

i think its funny that im the only one who didnt criticize this

[harsh rose]

saturn, cartomancer and another couple of them i cant remember

[woven orchid]

carto should be fine with smods and saturn is just generally outdated tbh

[harsh rose]

also using steammodded i noticed a weird delay before scoring my hand

[granite forum]

i use saturn and it's fine tho

[harsh rose]

like the cards just hover there for a second

[woven orchid]

smods does fuck with some timings yea

[harsh rose]

yeah, really annoying

[alpine cosmos]

true but like, smods is the big thing most mods rely on

[harsh rose]

my mods dont need it

[alpine cosmos]

its literally The API

okay fair i guess

[woven orchid]

i mean if they wanted the type of mods that need it they would probably have it

yea

[harsh rose]

whenever i have to run a more complicated mod like idk multiplayer, i just relocate steammodded in the right directory

[woven orchid]

anyway, to disable a lovely mod simply add a file named .lovelyignore in it's folder

[alpine cosmos]

yeah that

[woven orchid]

smods does the same thing to respect disabled mods

[harsh rose]

i know i can do it, but that would be the same as taking it out of the directory, i just wanted to know if there was a more streamlined solution

[alpine cosmos]

nope

there is Smods

but like

[woven orchid]

theres not a lot of lovely-only support tbh

[buoyant kestrel]

smods is the streamlined solution

[harsh rose]

mmh ok

[alpine cosmos]

yknow yeah

[buoyant kestrel]

so you are cooked

[keen knoll]

HEY GUYS

is this good

[harsh rose]

the thing is i can set everything in the mod config to "none" so that theoretically it doesnt interfere with vanilla seed searching, but there's a feature that i cant disable i think

[keen knoll]

is this good

[alpine cosmos]

oh thats interesting in theory but the limit makes it feel worthless

[keen knoll]

so if the limit wasnt there itd be good?

[alpine cosmos]

itd be incredible

[keen knoll]

ok im removing the limit

[alpine cosmos]

and bump it up to a rare i feel

[harsh rose]

since i can only set the soul card option to either 0 or 1, setting it to 0 makes me think that i will NEVER be able to spawn a soul card from a charm tag, not just 0.3% of the time (or whatever it is)

[keen knoll]

done

[harsh rose]

thats why i was asking if anybody is REALLY experienced with the brainstorm mod 🙁
this is such a specific question

[alpine cosmos]

sorry i dont think i can do anything to help either 😭

[alpine cosmos]

that sounds, so weird

[harsh rose]

i think ill just message the mod creators directly

[alpine cosmos]

yeahh fair!

[harsh rose]

thanks for the help

[alpine cosmos]

probably your best bet

[harsh rose]

whoops

[buoyant kestrel]

grr not centered i just noticed lmao

or is it??

i'm going nuts

[past lava]

i don't think so

[wide mulch]

hello modding chat

[fluid river]

does anyone know where to get the downloads for jen almanac/required mods for it. I have cryptid and talisman but I cant find the download for almanac here and its removed from git

[woven orchid]

play a better mod no hate

genius

[past lava]

jen's almanac is canned

[fluid river]

aw that sucks

[woven orchid]

almanac was taken down from most public downloads, you can probably find it online but you should just play a mod that’s actually updated

like maybe mine ….. #1380767966341238794

[past lava]

for a mod that's like jen's almanac
play mayhem

[wide mulch]

or you can play my mod

[woven orchid]

Okay jokerforge

[fluid river]

nah nevermind

thanks

[wide mulch]

jokerforge is the best mod

[lime siren]

find my pages

[harsh rose]

after resetting for like 10 minutes i was able to spawn a soul card even with the value set to 0 so theres my answer

[wide mulch]

i am 1/50th of hot potato so thats basically my mod

[honest zephyr]

hypermult
10 arrows
1.1 mult

[wide mulch]

jokerforge has evolved beyond what i planned for it

my baby has grown up

i am in contact with localthunk to make jokerforge the official in game mod maker

(im not)

[buoyant kestrel]

impulsive thoughts created this

this is so overkill but like look at it

[forest knoll]

wait that's banger

[honest zephyr]

would this crash

[past lava]

no

[buoyant kestrel]

10 arrows is baby shit

10,000 is where it starts obviously acting weird

(bignum inacc)

[wide mulch]

jokerforge will crash if you make a joker that is 1.0001x more complex than vanilla so yes it will crash

[honest zephyr]

ah so ^^^^^^^^^^1.1 Mult does jack shit
Noted

[buoyant kestrel]

i mean try it

its probably really strong

[young timber]

guys what does this joker do

its from aiko

and i have anotherjoker that disables the info thingy

[buoyant kestrel]

thats cheating i think

to tell you

[young timber]

:(

it said value up

so egg?

[buoyant kestrel]

egg-like maybe

check sell

probably not sell value based but you may as well

[young timber]

i got rid of it for yuri pt1

[buoyant kestrel]

yeasssss

[granite forum]

i mean yes, but actually no

[past lava]

should i make this more unbalanced
he already has his own rarity so why not

[buoyant kestrel]

why not

if you want to do it

[granite forum]

there is already a lack of quality because it's forgeslop

[wide mulch]

:(

[granite forum]

nothing against jokerforge itself

[wide mulch]

i hate the jokerforge ui

[granite forum]

more against 99.9% of the users

[past lava]

it's alright for me

[buoyant kestrel]

ME!! YOU'RE ME!!!

REAL!!!!

[past lava]

i've seen worse

[wide mulch]

the actual rulebuilder stuff is very good but actually managing a mod could definitely be improved

[granite forum]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1434965243720892426

[buoyant kestrel]

hehehehe

scratch shall rule the world

[wide mulch]

jokerforge 2

[young timber]

ante 6 e11 base 🤤

[granite forum]

jokerforge 2.0

[wide mulch]

this looks really good

genuinely fire

jokerforge was made to abstract the concept of creating mods very far but this looks more involved in the coding process

[granite forum]

jokerforge is a great resource but it atracts the worst quality mod makers who dispise effort

especially when it added hyperoperators

[wide mulch]

i was partly against that for a while but the community demanded

[granite forum]

yeah

[wide mulch]

if i could start making joker forge all over again i would do a lot differently for sure

there is still time to redesign the non-rulebuilder ui

[latent crescent]

New controls system I'm working on

[wind token]

i got called a slur for mentally disabled people on phasmophobia because of my speech impedment, cant have shit in phasmophobia bro

[past lava]

ok nvm this mod is canceled
it doesn't really feel creative at all

[granite forum]

quick turnaround and self awareness from a jokerforge user

wow

[lime siren]

batmanforge :clueless:

[buoyant kestrel]

in progress! do not fear about the pure black i just haven't decided what to do with the bg

[granite forum]

AAHhHHHH

[past lava]

☹️

[buoyant kestrel]

this is supposed to be a regular planet why am i going so hard

[granite forum]

same

i was in there just for updates

aaaah

[past lava]

they're banned in both servers i think

[lime siren]

Is it that ragebaiter guy that got banned

Oh I see I have asked a question already answered whoops

[past lava]

that dude left a bad reputation on jokerforge users like what the fuck

[granite forum]

no

i mean yes

but the real reputation of jokerforge users comes from the mods

[wise bear]

I posted all the joker ideas I had a few days ago to reddit before I buffed Mistoffelees and literally everyone who replied to the post was just like "Mistoffelees sucks" and didn't talk about any of the other Joker ideas 🙁

PLEASE

There's like 14 other jokers here I'm sorry for making a shit one

Stop throwing tomatoes at me ow ow ow ow ow

[past lava]

fair point
i remember seeing a mod where one of the jokers was "if hand contains a high card, create a random negative eternal joker"

[wise bear]

Fire

[past lava]

and it contained HORRID moxels

[buoyant kestrel]

mixels for voxels goes crazy

[normal lintel]

so i tried installing cryptid using a video guide and the github page only had the source code

[honest zephyr]

if hand doesn't contain a high card, create a random negative eternal joker

[toxic cloud]

we're finally getting somewhere

[wise bear]

If hand is empty, do nothing

[honest zephyr]

i typed crate instead of create i'm leaving

[normal lintel]

im pretty sure thats just the cryptid folder included in the release so where do i get steamodded and talisman?

oh its just

[wise bear]

They're seperate mods

[normal lintel]

on the github

im an idiot

[wise bear]

Just drag the folder that says cryptid inside the zip folder into your mods folder

[granite forum]

peam

[buoyant kestrel]

the actual effect is the same but a certain leading one is gone

hehe

[past lava]

it crashes the game

[buoyant kestrel]

also cool but seeing your mult essentially get set to one seems very funny

[past lava]

i can't do that in jokerforge... sigh..

[tepid island]

hiii sorry if i interrupt, i just downloaded multiplayer mod, is there a way to just get a matchmaking match instead of a coded match?

[buoyant kestrel]

they don't got shit in jokerforge

not even a {10}

[past lava]

you need to join the balatro multiplayer server

[tepid island]

ooo thx!

[past lava]

i mean
i could do -9999999999 mult

[buoyant kestrel]

hmm yeah but thats not even close to acc

[frigid furnace]

and then when people tell you it's unbalanced, you say "ok what if it's ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^1.0000000001 instead"

[buoyant kestrel]

and i can guess that you can't grab the current mult

(because then setting to one would be ez pz and that would be good enough for basically any omeganum people will see)

i would suggest just sticking with the crash

[past lava]

yeah

[granite forum]

^^mult should not exist in the context of balatro

[past lava]

what about =mult

[granite forum]

it's fine ig

[past lava]

and setting the scoring operator to {27272} should be burnt to the ground

i saw that in a balatro mod once 😨

[granite forum]

in the big '27

[copper loom]

I don't mean to criticize, but what mods that you know JF uses do you think are of poor quality?

it's just curiosity

[past lava]

that one ragebaiters mod, ectoplasm

[past lava]

there's probably more

[copper loom]

I just recommend that you don't enter the JF server if you want to stay sane

[past lava]

i've already entered it

[copper loom]

Sometimes you can find masterpieces, but then there's junk content without naming names

[past lava]

it deserves in dogwater tier

[granite forum]

"Ideas" with a joker name and no sprite

[copper loom]

ideas?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1303797147933741156.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=jimbo_spin

[forest knoll]

i don't think the quality of mods made in jokerforge is necessarily the primary issue. any tool that increases accessibility for modding is going to open the gates to more low-quality content, that's just par for the course
my main concern is actually its generated code. i want the source code from (well-made) jokerforge mods to be a good resource for when new modders want/need to transition to writing actual code, and as it is i don't think it's doing a good job of that at the moment

[past lava]

ideas joker:
ideas?

[forest knoll]

the UI is also a big issue for me, and i much prefer the block based coding that jokerblocks is going to offer

[buoyant kestrel]

ideas joker seems like it would have an effect akin to rnjoker

[past lava]

that's what i've been thinking

[forest knoll]

man i need to incorporate "akin" into my vocabulary
been using "a la" a lot and it always sounds a little bit weird lol

[buoyant kestrel]

though maybe it SPAWNS the random jokers

with the random sprites

[past lava]

that is NOT me

[buoyant kestrel]

mayhaps a better name would be Forgeslop

man candy cannot take a hint

or is great at ignoring them

[past lava]

yeah but what if the said jokerforge user is me

[buoyant kestrel]

like what is this goofy mf doing this is bros actual display name in starspace

[deft ore]

hes very desperate for attention

i have nothing more to say on the matter really

[buoyant kestrel]

oh hes GETTING attention

just not good attention

that might be it actually

[past lava]

oh

[copper loom]

play my mod guys https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1419501098666033305

[buoyant kestrel]

:balatrue:

[deft ore]

i think if i interacted with him more i would probably have him blocked

[buoyant kestrel]

fucking vencord

[deft ore]

balatrue

[buoyant kestrel]

balatrue

[copper loom]

balafalse

[past lava]

you saw nothing 👀

[copper loom]

copium~1

[woven orchid]

i'm meow

[daring sluice]

halo girl

haiiii

[frigid furnace]

ji

[woven orchid]

fancy new pfp oinite

[frigid furnace]

ye

im not feeling silly atm so no silly oinite :(

[daring sluice]

i need to contact the person who made this pfp and ask them to dig up the santa hatless version of it

[frigid furnace]

-# it's actually because i drew a pfp for my friend but it's posed way too similarly to my pfp so im switching to avoid that talking point lol

[daring sluice]

i rather like the version of my sona that Directly copies gumis hairstyle

[gleaming verge]

yo i just remembered that lmao

[void pasture]

I love the art for these
mod is by @Nolo33LP

[alpine cosmos]

i keep fucking messing with these designs but i think i found a theme i like

[buoyant kestrel]

what are the two aspects represented here?

if you don't mind saying

[alpine cosmos]

rng and chips!

[buoyant kestrel]

nice

[alpine cosmos]

literally arengee

[wide mulch]

unfortunately joker forge will never have 'good' code, that is the nature of making a custom code generator, i have been trying to make people more aware of the SMODS library by doing things like linking N's wiki and the SMODS docs when you export

jokerforge can rather have a lot of features or write nice code, my methodology behind joker forge when i first created it was that as long as it worked it worked

and when i started making jokerforge, i did not even know how to mod balatro myself so that didnt help lol

[woven orchid]

geneis

[forest knoll]

i think there's still plenty of room to improve tho, even within the constraints of what the tool is
a particular issue for me is that there's no way to use a centralized localization file, you have to have everything localized via loc_txt. it's probably more complicated under the hood, but jokerforge packages whole mods anyway and i don't see why it shouldn't be done

[wide mulch]

this is also real, jokerblocks and joker forge from my understanding have a different fundamental idea behind them. i wanted to make a tool that allows balatro modding with no programming experience, joker blocks assumes you have programming experience (somewhat) so can lay the logic out more 'programmy'. neither one is better than the other, its just different approaches

[young timber]

how do I restart my run quickly

[wide mulch]

yeah for sure, i still class joker forge as a beta-ish currently, the loc stuff will most likely be there before 1.0, joker forge kinda blew up in the balatro modding community before it was able to get good

[wide mulch]

r

[woven orchid]

hold r

life if nobody modded balatro but me

[buoyant kestrel]

struggling with editing the exe ig

[young timber]

fake

[buoyant kestrel]

since lovely and steammodded are mods

[wide mulch]

that was the entire point in my head when i made it. i wanted to make balatro modding accessible for literally everyone. however more mods equals more bad mods, aswell as good mods

[woven orchid]

i probably could have figured out opening and editing the exe

because its pretty easy to figure out how to do that via reading love2d docs

[buoyant kestrel]

probably yeah

[woven orchid]

but yeah i probably could not have made lovely

[woven orchid]

which yes i do this often enough for me to know

[deft ore]

was lovely made for balatro?

[woven orchid]

i think it was

[deft ore]

i know its not a balatro exclusive

oh cool

[woven orchid]

its not balatro exclusive but it was primarily made for the purpose of loading balatro mods iirc

[wide mulch]

but bad mods arent the end of the world, let people make bad mods and upload them. the issue that this community has is mod discoverability. finding good mods is not an easy process, and i think people unfairly blame joker forge for it when the issue is not having a nice mod repo

[deft ore]

maybe in the alternate timeline beatblock became popular enough that metherul made it primarily for the purpose of beatblock modding

[buoyant kestrel]

no people think jokerforge mods are bad not that they affect good mod discoverability

shitty jokerforge mods are not gonna be discoverable at all

[deft ore]

yeah it is unfortunate that the https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1324102096584446002 is actually useful

mod index index index when

[buoyant kestrel]

(except like on one random repo and some discord messages)

[deft ore]

They definitely affect good mod discoverability and it's because they're bad

[wide mulch]

what are the downsides to bad mods? genuinely there is none. there is only a downside when you cant find good mods out of the bad mods, ergo, mod discoverability issue

[deft ore]

They know how to make threads and it buries the less well-known mods

[buoyant kestrel]

oh yall use the threads?

[woven orchid]

can we add unremovable watermarks to jf which require you to solve the Riemann hypothesis to remove

[blissful stag]

is that too many or too ltitle badges

[deft ore]

more badges

just do starspace crossmod and make it contain a flash

simple

[wide mulch]

thats fair, and im the same, obviously im extremely biased cos i made the damn thing. but my argument to that is why should people learn to code to create what they want if a tool can do it for them? the type of people that use jokerforge and know nothing about coding and dont want to learn are not going to learn coding anyways.

[frigid furnace]

assuming jokerforge users dont actually check the mod files, just smack a "jf_" prefix on every file name
"every" is necessary since who is gonna take the time to remove all those prefixes

[buoyant kestrel]

vaguely related but a part of jokerblocks i like is that the output is always right there (as well as the blocks closely relating to the code)

[woven orchid]

fair enough

[buoyant kestrel]

makes learning easier

[woven orchid]

it actually makes me so mad

i dont really care about jf mods

i care about how shittily some of them are published

me when i put a zip file in a git repo instead of doing anything good

[forest knoll]

not enough

[blissful stag]

dude

[deft ore]

those are infoqueues theyre different

[wide mulch]

this is a huge improvement over joker forge yeah. because of how much obfuscation joker forge does with the code, it currently is much, much more difficult to have the code generate alongside on the side.

[frigid furnace]

cass just brought up the issue of too many infoqueue boxes on that joker to me wtf is this 😭

[deft ore]

balatrue

[forest knoll]

i'm stupid

[woven orchid]

like

its not that hard guys

just put the mod files. on your github.

if i see one more mod release via zip file im deleting vallkarri

[buoyant kestrel]

they don't know what git push is so they upload a zip file of the directory

[deft ore]

JokerBlocks is unfortunately not probably going to be used very much because the subset of people who would actually use it instead of just lua is Small

[forest knoll]

me when i upload a zip file to google drive and refuse to release my mod anywhere else

[fathom gust]

cough cough
-# utdr
cough

[wide mulch]

but then again, the type of people that will use joker blocks are the type of people that care about the code because they already understand programming at a fundamental level. the type of people that gravitate towards jokerforge (majority of the time) dont really care about the code

[woven orchid]

maybe its only me who gets so mad about this

[buoyant kestrel]

i will laser them

[woven orchid]

because i like to see the mods content via code before downloading & playing

[deft ore]

TRUE

wiki would be preferred

but like. nobody fucking updates that shit

if they even have one

[buoyant kestrel]

rofl

[deft ore]

candycane w actually neonflame has an updated wiki

[deft ore]

also infoqueues you say

[wide mulch]

i hope joker blocks becomes popular so it can see more development, if i ever get some time, i might lend a hand depending on if the codebase is nice to work with

even if it is somewhat competing with jokerforge, competition is always good because it strives for improvement

[buoyant kestrel]

i am chill with the guy i've helped with the development lmao

[buoyant kestrel]

(and i actually started my own version before i saw he was doing it and decided to help him)

[keen knoll]

yea im the only one thats touched those pages but i keep it updated

[deft ore]

jokerforge has introduced a couple people to modding who no longer use it so that's pretty good i say

[woven orchid]

i also think its less problematic but i dont like the idea of making mods for the end result only rather than the process

[deft ore]

@wide mulch never add decks please

[wide mulch]

but at the end of the day, i dont think creation should be hardlocked behind skills like programming that not everyone wants to learn. plus, when i first started creating jokerforge SMODS was a lot less documented than it is now

[deft ore]

keep it not fully functional so they have to transition to lua eventually

[buoyant kestrel]

ideally tools like this should be built for making people stop using them

[wide mulch]

they are already there i believe

[deft ore]

and it STILL isn't documented well

[wide mulch]

because joker forge is open source, i havent actually committed to jokerforge in like two months lol, i think decks got added then

[buoyant kestrel]

its funny because i sit in a funny spot where the reason i make the mods is for the coding

[woven orchid]

same

[buoyant kestrel]

i don't really even care about the outcome

[wide mulch]

but then my question for you is why is that a bad thing

[woven orchid]

i am reaching the point where i dont really care about my mod other than the joy it brings others

[buoyant kestrel]

(in comparison)

[woven orchid]

i do it to increase my skills in programming and to make others happy

[buoyant kestrel]

i care a little and to the extent of 'this works well'

[young timber]

how we feel about this?

[wide mulch]

ive never actually made a balatro mod, my first time lua programming was as a contributor to hot potato lol

[daring sluice]

im new to balatro modding how do i make this in jokerforge?