⚙・modding-general

[indigo egret]

can astro beat captchas

[prisma latch]

ok damn im actually making good progress on the lenticular shader

ive got the tilting working

[gilded vortex]

I was thinking about them today

[prisma latch]

i just need to swap out the solid magenta for an image

[west wolf]

wait peak idea imagine boss fights against popular mod characters

[prisma latch]

i think im starting to understand shaders..

[gilded vortex]

Wondering if I should try to message them

[gilded vortex]

opening the third eye

[prisma latch]

astro has a billion phases and its just all the astros from every mod with astro

[west wolf]

i tried to the other day

[gilded vortex]

mobster kingpin

[wanton lintel]

hold on give me like 30 minutes

[prisma latch]

or maybe its more like v2 where you keep rematching them

[west wolf]

they're like completely inactive

[foggy crag]

Updated wiki with all the new stuff✨ (🗣️ go and play it)
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Handsome_Devils

[prisma latch]

RECONSTRUCT WHAT??

[woven crag]

Endless entropy real

[west wolf]

imagine hotpot bossfight where you fight like 5 random bosses at once

[woven crag]

Obsidian orb cryptid but you dont actually know what youre fighting

[gilded vortex]

hmm

[prisma latch]

ok images im gonna add to the lenticular shader: a frame of bad apple, a frame of doom, rick astley, astro, neko arc, uhhh hh

[gilded vortex]

I hope they're well

[west wolf]

the score is not in chips but in binguscoins and you need to figure out how to convert

[gilded vortex]

teto pear

[prisma latch]

yes

teto pear

[lost inlet]

what language is used for balatro shaders

[prisma latch]

astro send me an astro to use

no soul sprite allowed

[gilded vortex]

that one Brazilian MLP YouTube poop

[prisma latch]

fucked up evil version of glsl

no like actually love2d has its own shader language thats basically just glsl but a little to the left

[gilded vortex]

Don't they only change some names

[lost inlet]

whuh

[gilded vortex]

That's what I read in the wiki

[paper flame]

Anyone get somethin like volfunc causing an error? or maybe im missing shit 💀 any help?

[prisma latch]

which is a big part of the learning curve, alongside learning wtf balatro is doing with shaders

[west wolf]

garb bossfight where it's complete gambling

[lost inlet]

oh

[west wolf]

whats a volfunc

[paper flame]

idk lua field 3 says it's something important

[gilded vortex]

garb bossfight and it's adeline from kriby

[lost inlet]

i have nearly 0 shader experience so uh.

[west wolf]

omg am i that cute

[lost inlet]

😃

[woven crag]

Thats just the stack trace, all that means is that its a value that exists somewhere

[prisma latch]

neither do i

but ive kinda just. had to learn

[gilded vortex]

ye

[paper flame]

how I make it stop existing 💣

[woven crag]

Why

[paper flame]

idk im tryna game cuz im tired

[west wolf]

shot computer with gün

[gilded vortex]

I think most of the difficulty with shaders for me is knowing what math gives me the visual effect I want, not the math itself

I made one shader and it was fun to use some basic linear algebra

[lost inlet]

i want a special reflective shader

[gilded vortex]

although the language is a bit obscure to me

[lost inlet]

not just the negative one

[gilded vortex]

I think reflecting the environment is somewhere between very hard and impossible

[lost inlet]

i mean just like shiny

[gilded vortex]

Because AFAIK with Balatro it would need to be a screen shader

[lost inlet]

sorry

[gilded vortex]

I mean, if you don't want to reflect environmental light it's easier

[lost inlet]

metallic stuff would probably be a texture i'd imagine

[gilded vortex]

You can probably edit the Golden shader example and get something decent

[lost inlet]

oh?

[gilded vortex]

No

[west wolf]

you can also do a texture

[lost inlet]

i was thinking of the mario 64 method

[gilded vortex]

You can probably find a way to cheat a metallic texture like the example Golden shader

[prisma latch]

i mean you can use the mario 64 metal mario texture to be funny lol

[lost inlet]

true

[gilded vortex]

but my research so far hasn't been helpful because most things discuss metallic shaders in terms of environmental reflection

which don't exist for Balatro effectively

[lost inlet]

feel like for what i want just shiny would be enough

[west wolf]

invisible shader that sets opacity to 20 and nothing else

[gilded vortex]

That falls into the cheating example I mentioned above

[wind token]

trans crash

[west wolf]

we love cheating in this house

[gilded vortex]

But I wanted to emphasize the difference between a real metallic shader and something that looks a bit like one

[wind token]

i love cheating

on tests

[gilded vortex]

I don't mean to discredit the approach

[wind token]

dont cheat on people

[west wolf]

i cheat in balatro code

[gilded vortex]

I'd like to implement a cheaty metallic shader

[west wolf]

all the time

[wind token]

ive only cheated twice, and i have a 50% catch rate

[lost inlet]

yeah i know faking it is probably good enough

[young timber]

hi guyss

[wind token]

how many times do you hear the phrase "a bitter taste in my mouth"

[gilded vortex]

But you probably won't find information for how to cheat it by googling how to implement a metallic shader, but rather the more accurate pproach

[west wolf]

bitter i would die for the turtle in your pfp

[gilded vortex]

Which is difficult and arguably impossible on Balatro

[young timber]

actually not that much

[young timber]

uh, ty?

[gilded vortex]

At least based on my experience trying to do that research myself

[wind token]

oh, i cant say the same about me and boat puns

[west wolf]

its a beautiful dog

[young timber]

i've heard lots on garb

[gilded vortex]

Maybe you'll find better sources or be smarter than me

[young timber]

close, you're nearly ther

[west wolf]

oh fr?

[young timber]

yea

[gilded vortex]

It's a handsome automobile

[young timber]

im usually quite talkative whilst ppl like astro r on

[wind token]

cat

[young timber]

there you go

[wind token]

no

dog

fuck

uh

brd\

[young timber]

nearly

[west wolf]

flamingo?

[gilded vortex]

-# again see the example

[young timber]

nono victin got it

[west wolf]

ooohhh

[wind token]

fox

[west wolf]

no its a four wheeled vehicle

[young timber]

have any of you guys worked on hotpot

[wind token]

bike

[young timber]

*🤔 *

[wind token]

yea ( im lying, i didnt)

[west wolf]

i was invited but i forgor

[young timber]

you just didnt do anything?

[woven crag]

I did

[west wolf]

yea

[young timber]

oh hi eris

[gilded vortex]

is this Dichrome from Paperback?

[woven crag]

Hi

[young timber]

sorry that sounded mean

hiiiiiiii eriissssssss

[woven crag]

Hello

[wind token]

oh... its you /j

[gilded vortex]

I made a Joker

[west wolf]

dont worry you will be ground in a fine powder

[woven crag]

Oh....... thats eris...

[young timber]

ah...

[west wolf]

imshallah

hi eris!

[young timber]

what

[woven crag]

Hi garb from garbshit

[west wolf]

hello i am garb from garbshit

[woven crag]

Garbshit 3 when

[gilded vortex]

@west wolf @lost inlet if that's Dichrome from Paperback I made it

Play Victin's Collection

[west wolf]

it released already ;]

[young timber]

send

i must play everyone's mod atleast once

[west wolf]

go play garbshit chat

[young timber]

everybody that i have talked to

[young timber]

in my main loop

[west wolf]

legendary update coming eventually

[young timber]

type siht?

[gilded vortex]

Mod link in bio

[young timber]

3:

[west wolf]

i want to get more cards done by friends and fans

[humble rampart]

M O D I N B I O

[gilded vortex]

also I want to resume working on my mod this week

[west wolf]

its always fun to get those in

[gilded vortex]

soctt pilgrim the woz got it

[west wolf]

victins collection peak go play it

[woven crag]

Garbshit: silksong when

[gilded vortex]

Garbsilk: sh*tsong when

[S] Garbsh*t when

[west wolf]

[S] GARBSHIT: Ascend

[gilded vortex]

Garbsh*t 2: Beyond Canon when

[west wolf]

btw im workint on balatrostuck for a while

[gilded vortex]

Garbsh*t anime by Vivie Pop featuring Toby "Radiation" Fox when

[west wolf]

we need to get it done

[woven crag]

Ascend the pantheon of shit and take your place at its peak

[gilded vortex]

garb working for all Homestuck Balatro mods

[west wolf]

only on balatrostuck actually

[gilded vortex]

did the link work

[young timber]

yes

uhh

[west wolf]

i helped wix with ideas on homelatro like once

but nothing more

[young timber]

so garb you didnt do anything in hotpot right

[gilded vortex]

oh wait is that moving again

[west wolf]

yes

[young timber]

i got some fliers to hand out /hj

[west wolf]

yeah

[young timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1431713225237332028

[west wolf]

i provided entertainment to the devs sometime

[young timber]

hotpot ppl can spectate anyway

[young timber]

@gilded vortex you too cmon now

[woven crag]

Victin was a hotpot guy

[gilded vortex]

dance my terepy

*throws peanuts*

[young timber]

ooh

ohh

[gilded vortex]

She was a hotpot guy he was a cold beans girl

[young timber]

i think victin can be spectator lemme ask

[prisma latch]

awesomesoup

[young timber]

@fair thistle you can be a spectator in cold beans

cold beans

you already forgot?!

you can go into all the team's gcs

and talk to ppl

see what they doin

[buoyant kestrel]

yed

[young timber]

ted

[buoyant kestrel]

👍

[young timber]

🇾🇹

[west wolf]

FELLOW IBIS PAINT USER

[buoyant kestrel]

astro is the one playing

[keen knoll]

hey guys

[young timber]

loveley

[gilded vortex]

@umbral pilot

[lost inlet]

hi i'm slimes

[keen knoll]

wow thats cool

[lost inlet]

[keen knoll]

metoo

id make a good joker

[random chasm]

pocket aces is so silly

[gilded vortex]

@west wolf

[west wolf]

a new pearto has hit the modding chat channel

[honest zephyr]

M Y M O D I N B I O

[random chasm]

she a pears

[indigo egret]

how it feels to download like 10 mods and then start a run:

[keen knoll]

ill kill u if it doesnt include my mod ./j

[gilded vortex]

make it 11 and download mine

[random chasm]

least insane ad from the 80s

[west wolf]

Oops! The game crashed

[prisma latch]

debating whether or not i should put the Fruit Loop Leg Wound image as one of the lenticulars

and cause psychic damage to many many people

[indigo egret]

Balatrue

[gilded vortex]

the what

[prisma latch]

you dont want to know

no its just. a leg wound (hopefully practical effects) with fruit loops and milk and a spoon in it

horrifying

[proud hatch]

Is this sick

[charred rune]

the greatest joker. now all we need is to actually make it run DooM

[viscid ruin]

beat a level of Doom to give you x5 Mult

[humble rampart]

play e1m1 of doom 2 when hand starts scoring
if you beat the level before hand finishes scoring you get $1998

gives you something to do

99% of the mod is fucking waiting for the hand to be over

[thorny dock]

thinking about doing white stake runs of every deck

[young timber]

@humble rampart why do you have 14k messages but not roles?

[humble rampart]

i like the look

looks clean

i only have my pronouns on my profile

[prisma latch]

i miiiight have gotten the lenticular shader working in a single night

moment of truth

crashed

[humble rampart]

why you ctrl+f ing me

[young timber]

uuuuuh

were you in hotpot

[prisma latch]

ok it was literally one letter fix lets see if it works now

ok didnt work but i think i might have a fix??

[humble rampart]

no?

never

[young timber]

*would you like to be in a collaborative mod? *

or be in the server

[humble rampart]

no pc but i can probably like

make or dump art i have

[young timber]

art?

[prisma latch]

YOOO IT WORKS??

[humble rampart]

sure

dm advertise me

go nuts

[young timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1431713225237332028

[prisma latch]

how tf did i shade a lenticular shader in a singular day. i am simply goated

[gilded vortex]

it made me think of cake

like that trend of making realistic cake

or memes about realistic cake

what you said made me think of it, I mean

[gilded vortex]

by having a very wrinkly brain 🧠

[prisma latch]

it has entirely broken

awesome

it does not seem to work when actually. in the joker slots ??

[honest zephyr]

+66 mult does NOT seem like a good enough reward for that risk imo...

[proud hatch]

yea

[honest zephyr]

i'd say like. x2 or x3 mult

[random chasm]

+66 mult is enough to settle your base mult for the entirety of ante 8 runs

[humble rampart]

i might be incorrecr but one theory i have is that balance is not the main concern

[random chasm]

maybe

[prisma latch]

ok hang on do editions have an update function that ONLY runs in the collection. is that whats happening here. cause thats fucking stupid

oh my god it is

why the fuck is that a thing??

[random chasm]

is this for displaying them or what

[gilded vortex]

you probably shouldn't be using update

[prisma latch]

yeah im using update to send the tilt value

im gonna swap over to drawstep now

i wanted to avoid drawsteps cause i. dont like using them

[gilded vortex]

you don't need that

Editions have draw functions

[prisma latch]

o h

[gilded vortex]

no DrawStep needed

Cards also have two draw functions

Which I'd say is what you should use most of the time when making cards look unusual

Including if the sprite interacts with e.g. mouse cursor

[prisma latch]

ok now i just gotta remember how to. draw the card with the shader

[west hill]

editions should have the tilt value anyway

[prisma latch]

they do but its buried under some equation which also includes a timer

[indigo egret]

FGTeeV editing funny parts out of his videos ever since he became religious

Sell this joker to create a Boss tag

or was it called Reroll Tag

[frigid mica]

Something within me is begging me to…

[indigo egret]

I forgor

[frigid mica]

Create a Roaring Knight joker

Despite it being done by Astro

[deft ore]

pretty sure its boss tag

[prisma latch]

because nobody else has ever done a rainbow dash joker

there are no new ideas

do whatever you want

[gilded vortex]

The seven different mods adding Zodiac

[gilded vortex]

Or was it eight

or nine

[prisma latch]

yea thats what im saying

youve got a rainbow dash

[gilded vortex]

you probably pass the shader name to draw IIRC

[prisma latch]

so do like. at least 2 other mods. so you're past the point

[deft ore]

NO! YOU’RE MEANT TO HAVE COMPLETELY UNIQUE IDEAS!
The seven zodiac consumable types:

[frigid mica]

These jokers are based off of characters I like

[gilded vortex]

Cool Garnet

[worn rain]

wsg

[gilded vortex]

That reminds me I wanted to make a Ruby/Sapphire/Garnet

[indigo egret]

oh so i am not wrong

[proud hatch]

Coolio

[prisma latch]

yeah ik im just saying, just cause somebody's already done a joker of a character doesnt mean you cant

cause you already have

[gilded vortex]

not even because they've already done

it's just a non-issue in general

see the 7/8/9 mods with Zodiacs

[wanton lintel]

huh. i yap like a lot

[frigid mica]

Astro is making Zodiacs too I believe

[prisma latch]

what does this mean

theres the draw function

which gets called by the game automatically

how am i meant to pass the shader name into that and whats that meant to change. its the draw function for the shader it already knows what shader it is

[frigid mica]

You think nobody gonna judge me if I made my own version of the code cards?

It’s called Bootleg Cards.

[prisma latch]

go ahead

[indigo egret]

make the tenth one a reference to that one Harry Potter Obama backpack🙏

[frigid mica]

Aight, but I’m still sad that nobody ever made like another spinel joker besides me and PinkFocalors.

[gilded vortex]

No

[prisma latch]

am i meant to be doing like card.children.center:draw_shader("hodge_lenticular", nil, card.ARGS.send_to_shader)

[frigid mica]

What’s the function of that card then?

[gilded vortex]

I misremembered the name. I was thinking of draw_shader which is the function that draw calls

[gilded vortex]

Probably yeah

[gilded vortex]

I didn't say no one would do it, I said their opinion doesn't matter

[latent crescent]

you tried

+1 chip

[shy quail]

Madness is crazy guys

[gilded vortex]

that makes me think of a joke—you have two sides: sleepy and woke

[frigid mica]

“Water is wet”

[tawdry pagoda]

can one of you guys experienced w/ mods help an old boomer try to figure out why I can't start a game now without the error text spam when trying to run a mod (literally just trying to run fantom's-preview) I'm sure it's something simple and obvious af

[prisma latch]

ok my did it

my fixed the shader

[gilded vortex]

This is how you'd apply multiple Shaders in an Edition like Negative does. Probably

Also the current implementation of SMODS makes using custom draw functions like this interact poorly but there's not a better proposal currently

[frigid mica]

I should make a joker that steals the probability numerator of the joker to the right and give it to the joker to the left. (Right = no odds, Left = more odds)

[keen knoll]

wait wait no way MADNESS is crazy?

[gilded vortex]

I mean, arguably the proposal should be to tell people to use custom draw functions

[prisma latch]

ok gonna tweak the shader so that transparency doesnt look like shit

[young timber]

wawa

[frigid mica]

I have a secret joker named candycane that only does x10 chips, but gives ^^1000 mult if you have his mod enabled.

[prisma latch]

wawa

[young timber]

oh @frigid mica check yo dms

[shy quail]

Like I litteraly gold stake with a random af deck

[young timber]

Thumbs

[frigid mica]

My dms? For what?

[young timber]

i asked you smth about cold beans

[frigid mica]

Don’t make it an Astro joker bruhhhh

[wanton lintel]

if you ever need art for your mod just scream at me until i do it
i need something to do

[indigo egret]

the humble joker stencil:

😭

[proud hatch]

I guess people might really want the serpent

[indigo egret]

the only reasonable use i could see with it is double chicot hand size but that's extremely niche

[proud hatch]

yea

[indigo egret]

goddamn it i was gonna make a serpent joker

[verbal dome]

3 blinds with Violet Vessel 🔥🔥🔥

[indigo egret]

the art was going to be the serpent with a rainbow lollipop and propeller hat

[wanton lintel]

:3

[tawdry pagoda]

does this text alone without even needing to go down further already tell you that I messed something up w/ installing mod?

[verbal dome]

Hey you should do some cool deck art cause I don't wanna do it 👍

[wanton lintel]

(example of my art for you newbies)

[verbal dome]

Don't feel pressured lmao

[prisma latch]

i think the game is crashing when it tries to save because im storing. an image

[wanton lintel]

whats the deck

[proud hatch]

Is this insanely broken? Thinking of making it 4 but idk

[verbal dome]

Nah -1 hand hurts a lot

[proud hatch]

*played or discarded

[verbal dome]

I'm making the celebration deck, so I want a firework and a lot of blue, if that helps

[indigo egret]

it's part of a line of "boss blind but actually helps you out" jokers

[wanton lintel]

hi

[keen knoll]

hi

neat

[keen knoll]

i can also do art

[frigid mica]

+10 chips*

[keen knoll]

to be fair uhh

[frigid mica]

I don’t care

[keen knoll]

oh

[indigo egret]

The Plant is a scaling xmult being a stronger Bus
The Mouth gains chips when played poker hand has been already played this round ala Card Sharp
The Eye gains XMult for not playing already played hpoke hand
The Hook gains chips when a card is discarded and resets at the end of the round ala hit the road
uhh i forgot

[keen knoll]

isnt that just finity

[random chasm]

rare tags

[wanton lintel]

holy shit

[indigo egret]

Finity is about SHOWDOWN blinds

[keen knoll]

oh

[frigid mica]

I should make it so that Astronomicus always has an Astral edition when spawning

[dreamy abyss]

you should play finity

[frigid mica]

(If you have starspace enabled)

[keen knoll]

i do its just some memory leak makes it nearly impossible to play past ante 8

[dreamy abyss]

you should probably report that then

[keen knoll]

i have no idea what mods cause it

[indigo egret]

which one of these should be the effect for a needle joker

"Create an Economy tag if round is completed in one hand"

"When blind is selected, sets hands to one and quadruples discards"

[frigid mica]

What does finite add again?

[keen knoll]

just my fps goes steadily down

[frigid mica]

Finity*

[indigo egret]

I kinda dislike the latter because uhhh Ortalab

[keen knoll]

jokers based on finisher blinds

that you get in the shop once you beat them

[frigid mica]

CRIMSON HEART JOKER??

[keen knoll]

it has a lot of crossmods

[keen knoll]

yes

[dreamy abyss]

balatro yaoi

[keen knoll]

first drawn hand gives X2 mult?

or would that be better for the water

[frigid mica]

I should change the way my prize fight card works. (It’s a bootleg card that turns the current blind into a boss blind with 10x blind size, and gives a legendary joker when beating the blind)

[verbal dome]

Stoned joker

Freaking quadratic equations

[frigid mica]

Quadratic formula =/= quadratic scaling

[prisma latch]

um. hello sir can i help you

[frigid mica]

Tf is that a satyr

Astro

[prisma latch]

dont tell me you guys haven't watched the classic film The Legend of Mu-Lan

its absolute cinema

(dogshit)

but enjoyable dogshit

[frigid mica]

Even though crossmod is planned for Starspace

[keen knoll]

i havent

[frigid mica]

Something aches in my body

Telling me to make a Roaring Knight joker

[main path]

do it
-# so that way theres another roaring knight joker that i can add to a list of jokers that gerson (in my mod) has a secret interaction with

[frigid mica]

No cause Gerson IS the planned crossmod joker for Starspace

[main path]

fuck
i already added gerson to my mod as a joker

[wanton lintel]

evil notepad++ news
we shaved down the rarity list

this is the old list

[frigid mica]

Send the gif

[keen knoll]

i really dont like custom rarities,,

[wanton lintel]

ok

[frigid mica]

Lmfaooooo

I will rename the roaring knight to-

Y’know what, maybe when her real name is revealed.

[wanton lintel]

antiquitous my beloved

[young timber]

@wanton lintel were you in hotpot?

[wanton lintel]

noo i fucking wish i was

[frigid mica]

I think it’s Asriel ngl

[young timber]

trol

wanna join cold beans

[wanton lintel]

what now

[young timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1431713225237332028

[frigid mica]

Why does Tyler look like an unc in dttg

[indigo egret]

i introduced some random person to peak

[wind token]

my leg is in so much pain

oh my god

[frigid mica]

Fuck you did?

[wind token]

stand up for too long

[indigo egret]

tfym what

[wanton lintel]

ok grandma /lh /j

[wind token]

i wish i was joking

[wind token]

i cant stand up for too long without being in pain

[indigo egret]

it's just me saying someone they should play Balatro

[indigo egret]

bro cannot play Straights anymore😭

[wind token]

im gonna throw a brick at you

[indigo egret]

"Shadow Milk // 2econd ^^" doesn't sound that bad

[frigid mica]

What you guys think of my exe

[wind token]

gay

idk

[wanton lintel]

coolio
i had some concepts for an ice themed exe

[indigo egret]

I don't know what are you talking about.

[proud hatch]

I like this one

[indigo egret]

ooooh my TikTok username

[frigid mica]

Pibby joker

[proud hatch]

LMAO

oh no

[wanton lintel]

should i skim down analog/eclipse's rarity list

[indigo egret]

"I goon to hapoten from Gimmiko" is a true statement though, but we won't talk about that

[frigid mica]

I don’t know why Jimbo is part of my busted buffoons mod when all of them are mostly fictional characters from other pieces of media

But then again, I think I like this Jimbo fella, so I turned him into a Grandiose Joker.

[indigo egret]

tfym "Three"

[verbal dome]

the.

[wanton lintel]

"the."
-abraham lincoln

[verbal dome]

What was the internet like back in 1776

Good

I bet modding was just drawing over standard playing cards

[wanton lintel]

god i never realized how much of a nightmare community driven mods are until eclipse

[verbal dome]

Yknow what, bad rarities are kinda funny

[wanton lintel]

i forgot i could cross this many mods in eclipse

[indigo egret]

i fucking hate couples like why are they ao vague "her favorite color" "his favorite shirt" SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! WE DON'T KNOW WHO "she" or "he" ARE

[indigo egret]

is there a 600 Year Old Butt Song from Heaven

[wind token]

thety

[wanton lintel]

idk

[worn dagger]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[wanton lintel]

if you say so i can add youre mod to the list or some shit

[random chasm]

this sounds like the title of an indie metal song

[wanton lintel]

true

[wanton lintel]

is this better

bet

[viscid ruin]

and here I am trying to make a vanilla style mod

[wanton lintel]

-me, about cryptid

[lost bolt]

i love doing art

and by love i mean hate

esp cause most things i want to do are far out of my skill level so i just have to wait until someone else can do it

[random chasm]

is having a config file optional

[keen knoll]

no

well its optional if your entire mod is one file

but otherwise you need a config file to specify the main file

[random chasm]

is that information usually put there

[keen knoll]

wdym

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-Metadata

read this

[random chasm]

yeah i've set that up

i was talking about a config.lua file

[keen knoll]

ohh

[random chasm]

which is where i assume the config options are handled

[keen knoll]

no not really

its just how people organize files

you can name it literally anything it just matters if you include it from the main file

[coarse prairie]

looks like a nice guy

[wanton lintel]

glungus' oopy sploopy orb factory

[indigo egret]

sometimes i question why does smods have a cat

[keen knoll]

ask methurl

[indigo egret]

@methamphetamine why does smods have a cat

wrong person

[mint spindle]

because kitty

[mint spindle]

🥀

[keen knoll]

how did you manage that genuinely

[indigo egret]

phone autocorrect ig

[keen knoll]

oh

we love autocarrot

[mint spindle]

yeah of course

obviously

[indigo egret]

shut up glitchkat, i'll kill you

/reference

[mint spindle]

that's a threat

i'm telling a trusted adult

[keen knoll]

cmon flynn we're your friends

[mint spindle]

💔

[indigo egret]

shut up candycane, i'll kill you

[keen knoll]

i barely remember that song

[lost bolt]

i thought i was finally placeholderless but then boom

[random chasm]

nomer

[wind token]

astro

or vanila joker

[keen knoll]

sniper tf2

[wanton lintel]

i wonder what compells someone to pick me of all people

[lost bolt]

can you do a voucher? i have a descriptor for it and a wip that's just some outlines

[indigo egret]

is there ANYYY way to hop on the hotpot server?

I fel like that one image of squidwars from spomgebo

[wanton lintel]

yeah sure why not

[willow wolf]

whatsup fuckasses

[serene lagoon]

Is there any way to pack two variables into a single localize{} statement?

LAPSEMS.recursive_list_maker = function(list_to_use, end_of_list)
    if #list_to_use == 1 then
        return list_to_use[1]
    end
    
    if #list_to_use == 2 then
        return {
            localize {
                type = 'variable',
                key = 'k_lapsems_list_' .. end_of_list,
                vars = {
                    list_to_use[1],
                    list_to_use[2]
                }
            }
        }
    else
        local removed_element = table.remove(list_to_use, 1)
        return {
            localize {
                type = 'variable',
                key = 'k_lapsems_list_recursive',
                vars = {
                    removed_element,
                    LAPSEMS.recursive_list_maker(list_to_use, end_of_list)
                }
            }
        }
    end
end

eval LAPSEMS.recursive_list_maker({'cheese', 'crackers'}, 'and') -- Table: 1: ERROR

[lost bolt]

is it fine if i dm you?

[wanton lintel]

im reading toxically high amounts of yuri

[wanton lintel]

yeah its chill

[whole nova]

metherul didn't make smods lol

[keen knoll]

WHAT

[whole nova]

pretty sure the cat is steamo's (person who originally made steamodded/smods)

[whole nova]

he made lovely

which enabled smods but he had no hand in smods itself

[keen knoll]

oh

hand

like the thing you use in balatro

[serene lagoon]

Hello?

[keen knoll]

wdym by that

[serene lagoon]

As outlined at the bottom of the block, calling the function with more than one argument returns:

Table:
1: ERROR

[whole nova]

we're coming up on 2 years of smods

[keen knoll]

idk use smods table merge

[feral prawn]

WHAT UP BITCHES I'M GOING TO SHOOT SOMEONE

[serene lagoon]

I don't know what that is.

[sleek granite]

what up chatters its ya gĩrl

[serene lagoon]

You got any answer for this, AutumnMood?

[sleek granite]

what

what even are you trying to do

[whole nova]

also #💻・modding-dev

[keen knoll]

dont throw glasses :(

[serene lagoon]

Make a function that takes a table and prints out a list of it.

{'milk', 'eggs', 'cheese'} -- milk, eggs and cheese

[proud crystal]

beige deck so 8 base

[sleek granite]

also why would i know im stupid

[proud crystal]

1 shop btw

[sleek granite]

cryptid

[proud crystal]

isaac_cutie

[indigo egret]

@mossy turtle watch out gng

[pulsar rain]

anyone know the mod that has blueprints and brainstorms change their appearance to match the card they're copying?

[granite forum]

see you're playing cryptid so this is not impressive

if anything it is dissapointing

[feral prawn]

Gonna shoot him :)

[granite forum]

autumnmood where you invited to cold bean? I see you on the invite list as pending but you haven't rejected to my knowledge

[indigo egret]

idk if you know this but it's highly unlikely you can get Gros Michel in the first shop

you can only get banana tag post ante 2

[granite forum]

it's cryptid

my guess is equilibrium deck and coupon tag

[indigo egret]

let's wait for the confirmation

[feral prawn]

Am i stupid or because they said one shop so not round 1 shop but they got those jokers in one shop

I'm prob stupid

Whatever

[indigo egret]

oh you're right

i'm a dumbass

[feral prawn]

Sick

[proud crystal]

i didnt say 1st

[random chasm]

does smods already provide aliases for colors

[proud crystal]

can this overflow?

also

arent most candies common

[young timber]

@indigo egret wawa join collab mod with like bunch of ppl

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1431713225237332028

[forest knoll]

candies are a separate rarity

[proud crystal]

o

but can it overflow

[granite forum]

yes

[proud crystal]

maybe so

[granite forum]

all candies are candy rarity

[forest knoll]

yes

[proud crystal]

awesomesauce

brb gonna gamebreak

[granite forum]

this is exactly the reason cryptid is unbalanced even on normal decks

[proud crystal]

i will have 100 jokers.

[granite forum]

and sapling

both uncommons with gamebreaking capability

[proud crystal]

on that topic, in your opinion what's the worst deck, for scientific purposes

[granite forum]

worst deck gameplaywise is ecto but worst deck in it's actual ability is rental deck

[honest zephyr]

cryptid's worst deck is the very fair deck if that even exists anymore

[lost bolt]

sapling is gamebreaking?

[granite forum]

it does

[lost bolt]

i thought it just created an epic joker once

[granite forum]

so many epics are very very good

[lost bolt]

wouldn't that be the epics fault

not sapling

[granite forum]

mult joker is so much cryptid generation

[buoyant kestrel]

exactly 💀

[proud crystal]

gotchaaa

also

not that cool but

[granite forum]

number blocks (i drew it :3) is best econ other than compound interest

[proud crystal]

idk thought it wasfunny

[honest zephyr]

You Could Get A Straight Flush.

Do It.

[granite forum]

negative joker is +4 joker slots

[lost bolt]

oh candy basket doesn't require room

[granite forum]

demicolon is fucking demicolon

[lost bolt]

that's why

[granite forum]

yeah

jimbotron is ^mult and you can get it crazy high with candy basket

[buoyant kestrel]

demicolon, aka: "Fuck, Now I Have to Implement This Joker In Every Joker"

[granite forum]

Code joker and copy paste are so good

[proud crystal]

like jokers that give mult or is there a joker called mult joker

[lost bolt]

but even then, the reason it's broken is partially cause of cotton candy (last i remember)

[granite forum]

mult joker is an epic

[granite forum]

and jawbreaker

yeah

it used to double all joker values but it was "nerfed"

[lost bolt]

the problem with value manip is that it's exponential

[granite forum]

ye

[buoyant kestrel]

temp value manip my beloved

like just X3 Values
no scaling

[lost bolt]

and also some value manip is more impactful than others

[granite forum]

also it is amazing for xmult because x1.5 vs x3
x3 is more than twice as good as x1.5
x2.25 is twice as good as x1.5

[forest knoll]

yea candies overall are very strong and that makes candy basket strong
cotton candy is essentially +2 joker slots, jawbreaker is value manip, wonka bar is literally +1 card selection limit without requiring you to keep the joker

[granite forum]

free rerolls, boss debuffs, amazing econ

[forest knoll]

they're more like consumables than jokers tbh

[granite forum]

just all around great

[honest zephyr]

the math in my head ain't mathing

[lost bolt]

it's why pokermon gives a lot less xmult with its value manip

[sleek granite]

poken man

[forest knoll]

a single x3 is better than getting two x1.5s in a row, because x1.5 x1.5 = x2.25

[honest zephyr]

ohhh

[buoyant kestrel]

additive value manip would go crazy

and by that i mean interesting

[granite forum]

hologram but it gains +x1.25

[buoyant kestrel]

i would want to see an implementation lmao

[honest zephyr]

my dumbass was like "but x1.5 two times is x3 i think!"

[lost bolt]

not even mentioning value manip with like hanging chad

[granite forum]

@sleek granite ???

[buoyant kestrel]

do not give more than like 15 retriggers ever

EVER

you will be stuck in calculation hell

[granite forum]

more than 4 more like more like more like have you ever heard of a lovely patch? Maybe you could just lovely patch it out

[honest zephyr]

absolutely cracked photochad?

[lost bolt]

i made a joker that retriggers all cards 2 times for an extreme downside i wonder how value manip would be

[granite forum]

ye

[buoyant kestrel]

joker that retriggers all cards 1000 times as a downside

troll~2

[lost bolt]

genius

[buoyant kestrel]

abort button is removed

[granite forum]

all econ especially compound interest (who made that beast) becomes incredibly powerful

the game is not meant to have exponential money

[proud crystal]

not quite right

[buoyant kestrel]

and of course animations are always on

[granite forum]

you get into e and you literally stop being able to see the money number go down

[buoyant kestrel]

and at the slowest value

[honest zephyr]

i don't have a name for this nonexistent joker
Retriggers all played cards 1000 times
-# This is not a benefit. Trust me.

[blissful stag]

oh

sigh

[granite forum]

i drew chili pepper >:^)
and put the angry eyes on the rock for a bit

[indigo egret]

me??? are you saying you consider me good enough to be on cold beans?

I will

[granite forum]

yay

[young timber]

eight

join up

[granite forum]

yeah same for autumnMood

[honest zephyr]

during scoring the little text changes to
-# I told you so.

[granite forum]

swooned again...

[sleek granite]

how the hell do you even get maxed training stats 😭 feel like i always get stuck at like 200-300

[proud crystal]

echo chanber

[proud crystal]

omg you did

wowie

[granite forum]

ye

but i hate cryptid so i quit

[honest zephyr]

Echo Chamber
Retriggers first played card 1 times
Retrigger amount is doubled every Ante, max of 32
-# Because I know you have things to do eventually, right?

[granite forum]

like hate with a burning passion

[proud crystal]

why

[plush hound]

someone had 5 copies of trance blueprint before

[granite forum]

unbalanced and development at a snails pace

[proud crystal]

yippee my idea got used

[granite forum]

no more than like 5 jokers have been added since i left early last year

*this year

[proud crystal]

jesus you weren't kidding

snails pace

[sleek granite]

i mean ive gotten good mood luck but still the econ to slam several billion jicks into increasing the stats seems improbable

[granite forum]

greedy anything lol

just lots of triggers

greedy chad works very well with a talisman

get up to like 30 triggers and 5 retriggers of the joker

[honest zephyr]

if max is toggled off
-# Your greed sickens me.

[plush hound]

you should definitely take their tarot cards

and spectrals

for training

[proud crystal]

i have an idea what if there's a version of this that retriggers the first joker

[normal hollow]

what if there was a joker that retriggered

[proud crystal]

wowie

genius

[random chasm]

what's the name of that christmas themed jokers mod that doc played

[lost bolt]

god that's old at this point it was like

[worn rain]

wsg chat

[lost bolt]

cosmos

[keen knoll]

hey guys

cyan slime (uncommon)

guarenteed to draw 3 cards of rank [rank] on first hand
guarenteed to draw 2 card of rank [rank] for each subsequent draw```

[feral prawn]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[proud crystal]

what the actual fuck 🥀

draw full deck

[sleek granite]

do yall like +10 mult

[proud crystal]

live twin 🥹 ✌️

[normal hollow]

wind +30 mult hits different

[feral prawn]

Wuh that mod

Doesn't look like hot pot to me

Besides the sharpened

[proud crystal]

alsowhy does it have they/it

[forest knoll]

cardpronouns

[hard plank]

pronouns

[forest knoll]

the mod badge for the joker's origin is in the joker's infobox :)

[proud crystal]

-999 mult if you call it by other pronouns 🥀 (joke)

[normal hollow]

sorry for not adding pronouns to the yugioh cards

[hard plank]

i still felt really good looking at this

[feral prawn]

Yeah but like- i'm stupid

[normal hollow]

chat play JoyousSpring

im working on it again

im adding booster boosters

[round ore]

furina is washed 😭

[buoyant kestrel]

such values

[random chasm]

what mod has this console

debug?

[round ore]

oops

[normal hollow]

debugplus yeah

[round ore]

numberslop 2

[hard plank]

hi autumnmood

[sleek granite]

hi aikoyori of the shenanigans

[hard plank]

there are a few things i updated that i didn't mention in the changelog

i think

[wanton rapids]

hello everyone

[sleek granite]

hello tramngle

[hard plank]

namely the main menu

and achievements

[young timber]

fwhart

[round ore]

numberslop improved, courtesy of @hard plank

[young timber]

hurts to think of

[graceful flame]

What does [n] mean

[granite forum]

beautiful

[round ore]

[n] being the copier

[graceful flame]

What's the difference between a and \alpha here

[round ore]

nothing actually

[granite forum]

cold bean rule

yeah

ignore rule 4

[buoyant kestrel]

holy wall

[round ore]

Astro [Rare]

When sold, has a 1 in 24 chance of beating the blind instantly (if you are in one). Otherwise, create a random negative Tarot.

[graceful flame]

5th line is not necessary as you're already defining \text{copies}(\alpha) = \alpha &^{n-1} x

[round ore]

it's termination rule

btw

yes i write math in neovim

[sleek granite]

whats new

[buoyant kestrel]

maximized jokers

[round ore]

why are those sankta

[graceful flame]

This relation already withholds because &^{0} = 1 thus creating x copies of alpha

[lost bolt]

(joke)

[granite forum]

yes

[wanton rapids]

no self inserts is boring btw

[granite forum]

the full rule is no astro or self incert
really it was no self incert but i thought it would be funny

[granite forum]

last i checked you aren't participating

[lost bolt]

they dont know my mod is full of planned self-insert jokers (not really the same since they can't just be a person or legendary)

[wanton rapids]

last i checked i can still have opinions

[steep slate]

i think using someone as an example for something that didnt need an example is a bit odd imo, the rule stands the same without the mention of astro

yeah thats fair :3

[exotic belfry]

That you even got this to load is a miracle

[chilly pine]

hello fellows

[sleek granite]

i did some patching

[exotic belfry]

I know you have compat layers but still 😭

[sleek granite]

the only issue thus far is jokers with joyousspring properties cant have buttons added from outside sources so Training or Reforging them is not possible
similarly Planeswalkers using RudeBuster don't function if given joyousspring properties so its not like a hotpot exclusive thing

[exotic belfry]

That’s so odd

[worn rain]

🥍

[sleek granite]

yeah it overrides the button functions /shrug

[exotic belfry]

Oh well

[sleek granite]

N''s already aware of it and awaiting smods button functionality so i guess if i want it to work now its on me to rewrite /shrug

[exotic belfry]

Hopefully that’s soon

That PR has been active for a good bit now lol

[granite forum]

nuh uh

[wanton rapids]

whatever i dont care

[granite forum]

coldbean yes or no please respond

[normal hollow]

oh for that you can probably just change this line to check if it's a joyousspring joker and it won't mess with other mods
https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/b3d9619a9a689e2fb2ded08058bb6d45caac6404/src/general_ui.lua#L381

[worn rain]

🥗

[wanton rapids]

you should probably be able to train joyousspring jokers right

or reforge or the other hotpot mechanics

[sleek granite]

yeah thatd still be omitted

[normal hollow]

well yeah but for that you have to rewrite the button logic

[sleek granite]

it would be a halfdecent bandaid solution for my JoyousSpringify option

[granite forum]

autumnMood ignoring me

guess i'll just die then

[worn rain]

lol

[sleek granite]

precisely; i was just noting it as a known issue

[forest knoll]

you know you aren't entitled to anyone's attention or response, right
sure it's not the most polite way to go about it, but at some point you just take it as a "no" and move on

[granite forum]

fairr

[worn rain]

esp when the project feels like a very cruddy attempt at a hotpot successor

ever heard of like. reasonable scope

[chilly pine]

cant wait to burn another 2 months on doing something someone else already did

[worn rain]

🔥

[mint spindle]

i'll come too

[granite forum]

you see we're going to spend 3x the time

[chilly pine]

should played cards be uninjogged

[worn rain]

ever heard of like. reasonable scope

[granite forum]

with a twist where we revers order once we finish all the teams

it's not hotpot 2.0

[granite forum]

no why

[chilly pine]

since like injogging is about positional stuff anyways

and playing it out ruins it

[worn rain]

its literally hotpot with extra steps how is that not true

[granite forum]

it's only 20 days total per person 10 split up months apart

[chilly pine]

but then again there would be no point in injogging if its immediately uninjogged when you play it

unless hih effects i guess

[forest knoll]

if that was the case you probably wouldn't have called it cold beans

[worn rain]

you have to realize this is a shitty idea
the most unrealistic scope ive seen out of any project in this server besides fusion shit

[granite forum]

i didn't name it

[hard plank]

edward robinson

[granite forum]

ok

[worn rain]

wsg

[chilly pine]

aikoyori...

[hard plank]

new aikoshen update

[worn rain]

dub

[granite forum]

aikoyori thinks it's a great idea right aikoyori

[hard plank]

is my evil twin involved

[forest knoll]

well my point still stands for whoever named it

[worn rain]

hey aikoyori is making hotpot except its 9 teams that participate on the project twice over the span of half a year a good idea

[tame knoll]

I am struggling a bit navigating the mods available.

Is there a debugging mod that allows me to choose cards freely, add money etc?

[worn rain]

debug plus

[hard plank]

I think the time frame is a bit long

[chilly pine]

if aikoyori thinks its a good idea then it must be a good idea!! rahh

[granite forum]

yes

leader of Wgrop

(old gonus)

[hard plank]

wtf!

[granite forum]

lol

[hard plank]

evil Jtem

[granite forum]

it's so thematic

[forest knoll]

debugplus

[chilly pine]

why is evil J W?

[random chasm]

would a joker that turns all scored cards into stone and had scaling xmult based on the amount that you have in your deck make sense in vanilla

[chilly pine]

what was the thought process behind that

[forest knoll]

i mean y'all are literally naming the teams to be inverses of hotpot teams

[forest knoll]

seems very strong

[worn rain]

ehhh this feels like itd be better split into 2 jokers, or at least make it a rare or something

difficult to balance

[normal hollow]

is this true

idk if i like that

[random chasm]

it is planned to be a rare and i'm trying to keep in mind that all scaling xmult rares scale really quickly at the cost of an inconvenient drawback

[worn rain]

lets make hot potato but everyone has to be unoriginal as all hell

but also nerf it to all hell by adding like the 10 commandments

[granite forum]

as placeholders

[chilly pine]

just copy hot potato code and change a few names

[granite forum]

2 teams have already renamed

[random chasm]

but turning everything into stone isn't that bad provided that you have hand agnostic +mult

[hard plank]

The Happy Halloween update trust

[random chasm]

since you get a ton of chips as a bonus

[worn rain]

very good joker sprite btw i saw earlier

[chilly pine]

why did they make the title evil??

underscores? in MY game?

[hard plank]

i tried so hard with it

[forest knoll]

you still see how the whole project is being presented as hotpot 2 though, right? like even if the names are being changed, that's still the expectation you're setting for the devs

[worn rain]

hotpotato happened seemingly pretty naturally
cold beans feels forced
it will almost certainly crash and burn

[random chasm]

i feel like this might make more sense as a legendary but even then

[hard plank]

also all the art in the mod is done

[worn rain]

i mean yeah since itd be better than canio 🔥

[worn rain]

wicked

[hard plank]

the mod looks presentable now

I'll add a few more features

[random chasm]

even if it scaled by 0.05x it would be really fadt

[forest knoll]

i agree it's probably on that power level
in terms of feeling like vanilla, it has two distinct effects and that's not very vanilla

[granite forum]

literally the one thing i say is "Hotpot but notpot"
Because it is hotpot
but not

[random chasm]

yea

[worn rain]

that is a hilarious thing to say abt one of the most noteworthy balatro mods existing

[random chasm]

i think it's better scrapped then

[hard plank]

i meant no more placeholders

[forest knoll]

so hotpot 2
or ortalab hotpot
or whatever
it's clearly riding hotpot's coattails and i think you're only going to limit the potential of such a collaborative mod by restricting yourself in that way

[worn rain]

i know i jus found it funny

[granite forum]

ok

gn ig

[granite forum]

we are on good pace to get teams ready and everything working anyway so i'm happy
a lot of people are already brainstorming

[strong obsidian]

Got a dumb but challenging idea for a deck:

Morolian Deck
"Convert all but 1 Hand into Discards. You can't gain Hands."

[hard plank]

Reverse Burglar

[forest knoll]

the ideas phase always goes well
anyway i'll get off your ass about it

[hard plank]

Meta

[granite forum]

actively bad

+2 discards at least

on top

[normal hollow]

i dont know how people would handle 4 months of development, everyone was dying after 1 hotpot week

[hard plank]

i agree

i was dying by the end of the week

[buoyant kestrel]

this is the consequences of me defining a version of fractional and negative hyperoperators

[worn rain]

not to mention the insane amount of debugging

[hard plank]

genuinely was kinda dying

[forest knoll]

hi aiko

[granite forum]

well you die one week then wait and die another week 2 months later

[random chasm]

the economy for this deck would be worse than black deck's

[random chasm]

you need a page 1 joker or a planet level on the first shop or else you just fall

[normal hollow]

i meant that everyone was impatient after the first team, not their week

[granite forum]

ah

i see

[hard plank]

ts takes 8 months to finish 🥀

[buoyant kestrel]

ong i'm on the first team so its the opposite problem for me 💀

[granite forum]

what if it's still 4 months but it alternates every day

💡

[worn rain]

😭

[buoyant kestrel]

too much i think

[worn rain]

who the fuck committing to that

[buoyant kestrel]

err

[chilly pine]

thats dumb

[buoyant kestrel]

??

[worn rain]

that is genuinely braindead

[hard plank]

who's gonna be rotating the access

[granite forum]

god take a joke

[granite forum]

idfk

[buoyant kestrel]

ngl your first suggestion was dogwater so i couldn't tell 💀

[hard plank]

I'm just saying there are quite a bit that goes into logistics of things of this nature

[granite forum]

hm yes

[normal hollow]

if i can give advice what we learned from hotpot is that there should be a person managing everything that is not participating

[granite forum]

i'll let chatgpt decide

[worn rain]

banned for ai

[buoyant kestrel]

balatrue

[normal hollow]

ok it's dead

[worn rain]

moooods :trol

[static pewter]

seu pai ass

[hard plank]

edward robinson

[worn rain]

aikoyori