#⚙・modding-general
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coding isnt entirely accessible and as someone who is more artist than developer, i like it
code purists, as always
Coding yourself's definitely a broader skill and will allow you to make anything you want, eventually, while jokerforge won't, so there's no harm in making home made artisinal jank, haha
whenever i search up "jokerfroge" in this server people are like "oh... jokerforge... that's,.. hm,, oh..."
I coded 99% of the mod I made in Jokerforge and got support for the other 1%. It's really good at making Jokers with basic functionalities
yeah
there's no harm in using it if anything
if you wanna use it to make custome joker cards that doesn't go indepth and really just adds like a +2 there or a x2 there, it's very neat
otherwise for more advanced shit, yeah
A pretty decent amount, from what I saw when I joined the server last week. Though your bingo joker, or the 8 randomized effects joker might not be very possible, or if it is, might not be worth using it for due to it being complex enough that you'd be better off coding it yourself
when im coding hatchet 1.1, there are some jokers i know ill have to code purely in lua for
but that doesnt make it a bad tool
as an artist, limitations can lead to creative ways to express ideas
my stance on jokerforge is that it can be a helpful tool, but you'll eventually run into a wall with complexity and it's often hard for us to help someone who's trying to transition from jokerforge to lua coding
also because of the fact that it generates code from a block based system, the code that it generates often ends up a little janky and weird to work with
it also has some strange design decisions under the hood iirc
yea it exports to lua
woh
but as I just mentioned it's not the best reference for what good code looks like
also not everyone here wants to make insanely complex mods that adds wacky effects and such
you can still use it to like, have a template easily made. It kinda helps with organizing the different parts ansd avoid forgetting a special option for your joker card you ommitted
like say "you can find it in the shop", or "has to be unlocked"
exactly
cryptid is great but i have no interest in playing cryptid-like mods that add like 50 million efects and rules and shit
Oh, for sure. I'm not very anti JF, haha, I think it's a very cool tool
not to say people dont do that shit on jokerforge either, they very much do
but its less common
Only reason I'd tell people to code their mods themselves is because you have more control that way, but that's a personal preference
don't hate the tool either way
only hate the people who uses it badly.
tho I reckon using only jokerforge for everything, when you wanna add many more complicated things, yeah you'll hit a wall with the tool x)
it's really a beginner/Joker formatting tool
oh right the other thing with jokerforge is that lowering the barrier of entry in any way tends to open the door to making low effort low quality slop
ok but why should we care
it sounds like a cool tool, like i hve no idea how to do unliock condition stuff even though i have ideas for it
actually wait i just said this
i might use it to figure something out
yeah there is definitely more control, but for a LOT of complicated elements, I think it's good to just, generate the basic infos for the jokers as well
I think Yahimice playing 50 jokerforge mods in a video got people really scared, for some reason, but I truly don't notice the notion of 'slop' mods being a tidal wave that's overtaking the community, or anything.
but otherwise yeah the vibe and ideas i'd like for my mod seems to be too wacky for what have been described
i mean i have no interest in playing lowquality slop either but id rather play smth thats intended to not be serious than something passing off as a good mod
I think the element scaring these people is just the feature creep it can generate
but then again it's like any kind of modding
for any game
Biggest downside of something like Jokerforge, when you want to make more complicated jokers, is that the less you actually touched your own code, the harder it becomes to debug. If you want to make a bigger mod, even if the content itself is simple, I think it can be harder to maintain and deal with issues if you have to rely on the knowledge of a platform. But from what I've seen, most JF mods are exactly what I think it's a great tool for: meme mods you share with friends, and adding your OC to the game
there will be tiny ass, simply made mods just adding a few features, while others can completely overhaul a game
question tho :
can you convert the jokerforge jokers into actual code or it's not even possible ?
Most people that want to make a mod don't want to make JoyousSpring or Kino, anyway, haha
like the point is that i want a crazy and silly idea
like can it be converted into lua code you can modify then ?
but like not cryptid or yamihice kind of crazy
They are code, so you don't even need to convert it. It's generated for you already
that's why i even named the mod Hanged Man
But I haven't ever touched jokerforge's actual creation tools much
modding chat be like
Modding Chat Joker
Has a (1-10)^2 in (1-10)^3 chance to retrigger all 3s, 7s, and 9s, but if the card is Steel or Gold it has a 7 in 49 chance to retrigger twice. All chips are multiplied by ^2.4 but if you are holding three 10s it will multiply chips by ^10.3 instead and also automatically balances Chips and Mult and spawns fifteen negative Sigils and a Negative Eternal Egg.
/j
will she manage to scale Techno Joker? find out in the next episode
IS THAT BLACK JOKER
that's Charcoal Joker :3
wait, so it does just generate the code at the end after every steps in there ?
like the actual lua code ?
I've made one joker to test out how it works so I can at least help people that have a question like 'does jokerforge let you do xmult?', haha. Besides that, all my interaction is telling the JF team that if they want to implement value manipulation into JF, I'd be willing to help them intergrate #1406740128231194644 and see if that helps
what was the mod that let you select multiple cards with right click?
CHAT AM I MAKING A SLOP MOD 😭
Yeah!
modding chat be like
Jonkler
If you say you're making a slop mod, you're making a slop mod. Otherwise you aren't.
Simple as that
idc if my mod is any bit "basic" or "memey" to people - i put lots of love and care into it and thats what matters
What is a slop mode
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
LMFAO no way
also uncommon or rare
Uncommon
welcome back polterworx ❤️
i wanna make this now
What is reserve
dont forget "1 in 3921 chance to end the run and uninstall the game"
Once I'm bored with setting up new #1406740128231194644 mods and get back to making new content for Kino, I have to set up the Inception joker and that design's comically complicated 🥲 But I guess that's on brand
OH YEAH
im gonna crash out i cant find the right click select mod in the mod manager
Is it not Handy?
extra swappable number
horn sound effect
guaranteed X2 mult which also ends up being X8 mult or more 3/4ths of the time? better than most legendaries methinks
Haha, god that's so much simpler 😛
if anything, it's nice to see people actually having passions with their mod.
I'd say a slop mod is basically a mod made with little to zero care about it by the creator. As just a throwaway thing.
But you care a lot about your mod so, I say it's no slop for me =3
it's a top mod in my book, if you care a lot about your mod.
But such is the thing with mods. It's not like a bad thing but a natural one instead
Mine's like 3 text boxes and two info_queues 😛
What about a bottom mod
you have to have a lot of Patience (Grab Bag) to use this joker
yup, ty
idk whose came first but this is the same joker lol
Trying to figure out what my most overdesigned joker is. Probably one of the Abduction ones
i'm sorry but when i read "transition from jokerforge to lua coding" i thought of like
translua
luestrogen
this also implies transforge
this is an adjective, like transfem
remind me of that MTG Card or Estrogen brands disordat
Holy
That sounds sick
yoooo, movie joker cards
that has infinite potential
also how did you make the different paragraphs things for the description ?
wanna do something similar
ok but you hav e achance to be locked into a 40 in 1 chance which makes the unbalanced worth it for the comedy
heartbreaking: nobody in modding chat knows about kino for some reason
Multi textboxes are supported by smods! Just use text = {{"paragraph 1"}, {"paragraph 2"}} in your localization, and they'll be split up! 😄
oooooooooh thx
and I suppose the "abduct" shows up automatically when using the "hover tooltip"thing ?
the info_queue, yeah!
gotta know how to do this trick ngl
Not even a trick, honestly, haha. Just an entry in you rlocalization file that you pass to the info_queue
oh dear, dunno how to do that, that's new territory
localisation files are also evil
I swear I discover so manythings while modding this game xD
can just add this in the main mod file, right ?
if you check the #1340334060597285025 repo, just look for the Moonfall joker, and you can see how I set up the info_queue. Then from there, it'sjust the localization file. If you aren't working with localization files, I definitely recommend setting one up and using it immediately
im making the ragebait joker
iv'e just been baking my desc into the loc_txt th eentire time
sorry but i'm evil and use loc_txt so how can i do it in loc_txt
😭
gotta be jimbo with a trollface if so
I've learned that the people that play Kino aren't people that chat on discord, hahaha, and the people I talk about Kino to here just assume it's a mod that needs you to know how many movies Tom Hanks starred in in 1995, and whether they have any subtext about the Russian revolution, or you die instantly
big modding wants you to use silly localisation files instead of putting your loc_txt directly into your Joker object and making your mod untranslatable
So I just got Zokers Mod Menu, but I don't know how to make it work. Trying to spawn in jokers.
no its even funnier
common or uncommon
gotta be common lol
You make a localization folder, set up your en_us.lua file and just follow the source code's formatting, tbh. There's no trick to it in any way, really
never heard of zoker’s mod menu use debugplus instead methinks
tho I'd rework it only to retrigger gros michel/cavendish instead of the flat x3
yeah but that involves redoing all my current joker to use the loc file instead
and like
that's effort
Biggest benefit is that you can add text that isn't used by an object. Lots of Kino jokers have little barks of flavour text that pop up if they trigger in specific contexts, and that'd be a lot worse to set up with loc_txt
oh yeah
is there any way to split a localization file
I mean, it'd be some copy and pasting
but that'd be it
tbh it should be common
you don't need to have everything in the localization file to use a localization file, you can continue using loc_txt if you'd like
i think
That the name of another mod?
And yeah, I think the loc_txt has prio? I'm not entirely sure
yes
yeah you can mix and match
i would start using localization files but think of this: i'm fucking lazy
MOOD
counter argument: localization files are actually less work
I wonder if other mods just simply don't bother with loc files at all, and just uses a function to be called lol
i know,,,,
unless that's not how it works
counter argument: i have to make a whole new folder and whole new lua file for it and i'm fucking lazy
Also, I can find-replace all uses of a colour or a word, haha
executive dysfunction when something is less work but asks you to move the mouse in a way you haven't moved it in yet 😛
counter argument: hi guys, idk i'm just here
plueprint: retriggers joker to the right on final hand on round
do you want to change the description of a joker? yeah actually navigate to a separate file entirely and ctrl+f for its key it’s easier
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
also I gotta ask :
how does one tests efficiently their own new jokers to see if they work ?
i mean i'd do it if i have someone to walk me through how do to set it up properly
without the need to like, open the game and hope your own joker shows up ?
play the game
oh
debug +
debugplus
yeah that's what I was asking lol
oh is that a different mod ?
i just have it pinned, haha
yeah its a separate mod
yes
once you have it installed, hold tab ingame to get the magic cheat sheet
debug+, yeah, that's how I test for things. But I'm bad at testing and mostly just coast on my having a random person trying to get a gold sticker on all 320 of my jokers that's willing to report bugs to me
but I'm in a drought of that person now, so bugs can start slipping in again
if you want to know how to set up a localisation file crack open another mod, the syntax isn’t that bad you just need to know all the namespaces and stuff. maybe try looking at a smaller mod
i need to start shilling my mod again
counterpoint: i'm fucking laz
tbh i usually just check to see if the joker alone functions and have people report strange interactions lmao
wait
there's a debugplusPLUS
however I'll go watch a movie with my friend tomorrow so yeah
Jogla moment
haven't used edebugplusplus yet but it adds a bunch more tools
i think debug++ just has different toggles and sliders for the debug stuff, havent used it tho
well if anything in my mod requires it, I'll see about it
also, because apparently nobody plays my mod, please appreciate the cute UFO that abduction jokers have when they've abducted ❤️
thx for the input btw guys, y'all rock in there to be making mods =3
really makes the process enjoyable
it adds more GUI stuff for exploring the contents of card objects (like the joker values and whatnot), but i think the most important thing that debug++ does is actually giving you a way to apply modded stickers without having to use the console
Meta do you use the console to apply editions manually
oh that miiiiight prove handy if I were to add more stuff lol
Also, realizing that the abducted card pop up stretches out way more than I thought it did, oops
dw i’ve played your mod ice, i’m just not very good at it and also i probably shouldn’t have played on the value manip deck oops
i love when i showcase things in this channel and i discover that something isnt quite right
no not yet at least, i haven't been in a place where i have a bunch of editions and need to test a specific one all the way at the end of the list
it's specifically stickers that's the issue in debugplus, it just has hardcoded hotkeys for eternal/perishable/rental
on the note of value manip, I'm setting up standards for Grab Bag so I can slowly become the norm for it, Th30ne
ok I gotta ask tho because I'm a total noob, what does the localization files ADD more to the whole process ?
because I thought it was only used for different languages compatibility, does it have more tools to it I don't know anything about ?
it's mainly just nice to have all the localization in one place
although there's nothing wrong with having localization tied to the object it's related to
yeah i remember you saying you were making progress on that. i should probably get back to working on grab bag it’s been a while
OMG HELLO DEATH NOTE FROM JUDGEMENT HOW ARE YOU TODAY
but there are indeed a few extra things you can only do with localization files (e.g. localization for custom messages that pop up when certain jokers trigger)
So, loc_txt adds localization for the object you're working on, but it doesn't give you a space to add other stuff. My mod, for example, has a loooot of text that pops up in other contexts, as well as those mechanic tooltips. Those are only able to be set up with a localization file.
I see
ghostsalt i forgot if you have played my mod yet
oh right i need to play judgement someday
actually i’ll wait for next stable smods whenever that’s happening
[i obtained Death Note through the Tarot card, Judgement]
I need to add mechanic tooltips, but does it also add the custom color palette I want to repeatedly use for my mod ?
I do want to add more custom colors ngl so, dunno how it's done
fun...
oh ice i thought of another use case for the printing-text-on-cards feature lmao
i have a joker in my stone-focused mod that makes stone cards additionally give +Mult based on the underlying rank of the card
i was planning to set up a custom set of suitless front sprites, but printing the text dynamically makes it automatically compatible with modded ranks
'stable' 'smods'
but for example, this joker says 'Dribble' when it retriggers a card, instead of 'Again'
I already know a few things I can do with it that'd really benefit from it. Part of that is a bunch of the indicators that Kino has for cards, which I currently just do very messily by spawning two separate uiboxes in the same spot, haha. But custom suit compat for that is also very smart use
I can also finally use it for my original plan of having the note on the card say the stuff in the suspect box, rather than just filler text
I do need to mess around with your code a bit more and see how I'd go about setting up coloured text or use different fonts, at some point
😔
hey hey aiko
ok im actually making the ragebait jokre real
ayyyy
yea it's raw love.graphics calls. might be better to get it to use the balatro UI system again, i'll play around with it some more
in the meantime, for the color, just edit the love.graphics.setColor call (it takes rgb values, each value goes from 0 to 1)
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oh i have like 10 jokers i drew ages ago that still aren't in grab lol
meta
hi aiko
do you like DynaTextEffect
i haven't played around much with it yet
Holy shit
I saw! I was reading up on the documentation but couldn't manage to focus enough to actually absorb any of it, haha. I also definitely wanna see if I can write some utility functions around it. But I might DM you about that at some point, so there's less doubling up of functionality, haha
Okay. Got Debug+. Now what? How does one spawn jokers in a run?
util funcs will definitely be helpful for transitioning the system to an smods PR
hold tab to see the magic hotkey list
3 (requires space)
or ctrl+c (does not require space)
i think value manip should be in SMODS 
hover over it in the collection and press 3 or ctrl-3
Nah, value manipulation is way too much of a design choice for SMODS to comfortably offer a generic implementation. At best it could introduce some tools that'd make it easier to manipulate values
btw if you want, I can set up a compatibility standard for Aikoshen too, for Blockbuster's value manip. Idk if that'd be of any help to you, haha
I'd love to do away from my own jank
can't guarantee my stuff is less jank, but at least you'd be able to blame me for bugs instead, haha
wait so people jsut
draw joker sprite
and people can claim them?
or
like how with ktane some people write manuals then someone else claims it and implment them
To be fair, as far as I'm aware value manipulation accessible stuff is just part of best balatro modding practices
wht's value manip
Or at the very least putting the values in ability / ability.extra and not hardcoding them
Does Debug+ not like Lost Edition? It's spamming an annoying message.
Unless there's an aspect to value manipulation I'm missing
There's some weird edge cases with values that are affected by other objects while being native to the object too, like how Joker's mult is just ability.mult. Entirely fine in unmodded or if you're only running one mod, but if you're running multiple mods that might allow you to add additional mult scoring to a joker, for example, it could start messing things up. But yeah, I'm not sure what I'd want smods to add to help with value manipulation, generally
something in-game having an effect on the values of other things in-game (e.g. a consumable that doubles all values on one selected joker would make the default joker go from +4 Mult to +8 Mult)
Biggest thing is that it's impossible for the game to know whether there's a distinction between values that shouldn't be modifiable, besides hardcoding those in. But my own solution is functionally just hardcoding, as well, haha
ah okay, that kind of vlaue maip
i mean yeah it would be cool to have in a mod but definitely not something every mod need to have access to
I'd get on my soapbox again and start my rant about how most value manipulation doesn't allow you to make it a seemless game mechanic, but I think that horse has been beaten to death (by me exclusively)
hornet is a brain parasite
when are we adding factorials to balatro
I think it just does have a problem with that one. It's not spamming anymore.
@broken drum's idea
@broken drum
@jaunty galleon for Kino, Ive set it up so that scaling jokers don't have their currently scaled value affected by manipulation. So a Runner's +chips per straight would be changed, but the +chips it gives wouldn't. Would you want me to set it up like that for #1334717157098913833 too?
e
if it's not too much work on your end go for it
It's not, I don't think. Your variable naming seems to be super consistent, so that works out
After doing this for MoreFluff, I've set up a system to allow me to pass along an alternate standard for scaling jokers, because most mods can't handle it with just one, because they didn't know I'd start telling people my approach is good design, haha
Clearly the best solution is an extra attribute that's a table saying how to manip every other value :clueless:
mm
🥲
how'd you know
i've tried to do art for grab a few times over the past month but i keep drawing shit and thinking it's not good enough to put in the mod
NGL I forgot I read through your value manipulation API and I also forgot it was exactly that
heres a plague mark joker. idk i just don't like it much
I mean, not exactly, it luckily doesn't need you to set it up for every single joker
But I meant more in a defined joker by joker way
Tbf I don't think there's a much better way to do it?
Only other ides I had was being boring and putting values into an extra layer of table that an API looks for and also checks what the value manip rules/definition for that table is
That was my conclusion
@full edge can you add custom colors in the localization files as well ?
You either have to hardcode it in, find a way to make it a bit easier to hardcode, or you have to be generic
Not in the localization file, but you can set them up for sure!
https://github.com/icyethics/Kino/blob/main/src/kinofunctions.lua#L733 I've set them up in my unsorted function file, but just anywhere, basically. That chunk of code is all that's needed for colour stuff!
As in
config = {
banned = {
count = 0,
},
flat = {
mult = 4,
},
},
But that's rewriting hell
Colors can be passed through to localization...
I do allow for functionally that
oh I seeeeee
Ali's example is better, though, for if you just want to use a colour directly
can you make string passed to a placdeholder in description do colour parsing
Which is probably what you were referring to, haha. What I sent was for setting up new colours
for now I could just add it in the main code and can add it later in its own file perhaps then
This Joker of mine is usin' it.
like can i make string = '{C:inactive}test{}' parse when returned into the description
I don't use it on my own jokers, as they've all been written knowing I'd set this system up, but I allow you to set up a table on the joker itself as well, with a bunch of specifications. You can ban specific values, only let them be integers, or set specific caps for a value, as well
In the loc_txt or localization entry? yeah
i heard the 640×480 resolution was passed down to us by god
800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024...
You can parse whole new ui elements into it, thats how iirc the blueprint compatible box works
i gotta make this into a joker somehow
i mean as art
I forgot that like every second joker in Grab Bag is a scaling joker, haha
-# Right.
i didn't think there were that many
If you just put that in the description, that should work. Or do you mean something else?
7/26 of the commons. Feels like more because they're alphabetically clustered, by chance, haha
Maybe less tarot gens
Qwerty Joker
Uncommon Joker
This Joker gains 0.1X Mult per discard remaining at the end of a round.
so like if i have desc be #1# and the return is var1, and then i set var1 = '{C:mult}text'
i want the text text to show up as red on the description in game
ban all xmult jokers just because
It's in, thx lexi
bans obelisk, good enough for me
But trib
sacrifices must be made
My throwback...
thats uhh quite overcomplicated to add colour
hold on ill grab an example on how to the colour

i have a joker that geenrates a random effect, and i need the description to update
that's why i cant make it a baked text
i wish i could code because if i knew i would make a joker that gave you X10 mult if your aspect ratio was set to 320 x 200
🔥
This Number is too large to exist, yet here we are
^52! Chips and Mult
just throw the formatting in the text that updates it should work idk tho im not a lua pro
i have made the best joker
Adding that and sending the lua so someone else can have it
I know throwback is statistically not that good but it literally carried me to my first ever win 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
its actually kinda crappy + unbalanced but i like it
too much reading
what the hell
tl;dr
factorials
no i know that
i tried and it just display the raw text in black
also not all of it works
no
i made the worst reading joker in jf
ik its ragebait but why am i still pissed off
what about it?
like it doesnt show up as text it shows as {c:mult}text{} on the ingame description
i should make a mod full of incredibly specific win conditions
jf 🤢
scales faster than obelisk
Do we like this or old qwerty joker better
Qwerty Joker
Uncommon Joker
Creates a Charm Tag if no discards were used this round
just cuz its able to scale
a charm tag is way good
hmm
maybe misprints code or cryptid's rnjoker could help w that
thought this was square seal for a moment
you're prolly underestimating it
New one it is
guys can i play random matches on multiplayer or do i have to join someones lobby?
Is new qwerty joker even that good anyways
been playing with my friend but he sucks
no, square card
i dont have a halo i enjoy messing with people
this got me
its not that deep broski
i applaud you
ok but
you can feasibly scale obelisk
when are you scaling oddly specififc more than twice
fym "how's you to gauge"
i should make more ragebait jokers
Maybe hands instead of discards?
bald cards come from the best tarot in the mod "the barber"
is ts based on that one image saying "I SKIN INFANT CHILDREN"
this thing scales faster cuz it can scale at all
what
im proud of how this came out tho
I meant to reply to something
Joker gives -1 Joker slot
this
no it has a very convoluted and specific effect
But it's double wide
i know
:(
half of it doesnt work 😭
longjoker
This was my sticker idea actually 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
LES GOOO
heres the mod if you guys want it
PEAM
:3
hi im here
Hi here I'm blitz
batro
:3
belayter
slime ?
heat GONE
balto
oh jokerforge can do edition???
wait that might be a good base for me to start
no
not a good base
vanilla remade is better for that
Is it bad to be the only person on a mod
Joker idea [WIP art] Sticker bomb - Common
Always has an edition
no
Negative
i sure hope not, otherwise I'd have been making Kino for nothing
yeah lol
that makes it funny
yea?
I've done decent art, coded basically everything by myself, and I may to a secondary theme
temprance value
modifiers GONE
so appart from being philosophical joker, its either +50 chips, +10 mult or X1.5 mult
so its random, and cool
not negative?
Disable sticker ?
if its negative itll be philosophical joker
goober (fyi I made it)
goober
make it not allow to show up as negative then
no clue what that is
WHAT
hiiiiii what do u guys reccomend as like, first mods that i use?
Its from more fluff, all it does is +1 jkr slot
No, the funny
not cryptid
like just most mods but cryptid
Jimball lost edition
oh yeah
Let him out!!!
Give every joker every sticker
that would be so ass lol
Pinned, Eternal, Rental, Perishable
swash, gift card, temperance
#1357543332602970212 BEST MOD EVER
2
okiiii ty!
Joker that's just temperance
all in jest has good art 👍
I want to make a mod that good
vanilla+ with mid art
at least
thanks a lot to everyone who answered, honestly thought id just get ignored
Imagine bveing an artist that likes their work (not me)
im delusional mostly all the shit i make is fucking incredible
i would have shilled my mod but nah it’s abysmal
jimball
yuh
the mod as a whole is lame
starting rocket is a won run
lots of people seem to be, why cant I appriciate stuff that people constantly tell me is good 😭
no one tells me my art is good
My art is ok, but I say not good enough
no
What should this guy do
Trump Card
Common Joker
When a consumable is used, 1 in 2 chance to earn it's sell value
welp insults worked
id nab it
finally 🙏
easy money
What just happened?
Evil Guy
Common Joker
+1 hand size
Destroy a random card held in hand when a hand is played
I feel like the Teacher coming back into the classroom
normal occurrence in #⚙・modding-general
Unbalanced easy?
astro said insults didnt work on them and i hit the critical weak spot
no reason for a chance clause it feels like
✅
Without the chance clause shop consumables are free
why are we insulting people?
idk
lame behavior is all ill say
i forget what happened with ruby and why does she need to be free
sell price is half of buy price
oh yeah
and again usually just $1 or $2
analogue horor
yes
seriously what happened with ruby
idk i wasnt there
go back to modding balatro
astro
why are you doing that deltarune meme thing
I request everyone keeps any and all personal grievances entirely in DMs because whenever they bleed out into these channels I'm very much aware of the fact that I'm an adult man wadding to the children's ball pit
reference
can anyone answer me about ruby or
no one dms people
i do
strange
You can search for Egg's messages in here and see the mod's reasoning
the flesh
fleshware
mandela catalouge
evil fucked up badware
honalouge arror
anyways i need to lock in on homework brb
Eris
its my favorite deltarune song rn tbh
FUCK I JST CLEARED ALL MY TABS 😭
that and From Now On
right click tab bar then something
i dotn remember the path
ctrl shift t
i use it allll the time
pickman
holy shit jolimar
tab hitman
modding balatro is making me tweak
would break the game if i get Runner
reasonable
yea thats generally how you do it /j
what does the blue text mean
i just made a deck and accidentally made it call its own function
result: 500 hapotens
i saw that kris
oohhh
ngl i opened chat and thought i was in the jokerforge server for a moment 😭
why are you in jokerfprger
balatrue
why not
spoiler alert spoiler alert
|| spoiler alert ||
because uhhhh how dare you :(
High Flyer
Uncommon Joker
Earn $10 when a Joker becomes debuffed or destroyed*.
*selling doesn't count as destroying
this works for like 5 things total in the game
it says social media is often like being thrown down a mountain
Ok hang on
and debuff focused jokers dont work as a concept
steven
too nieche or smth
hehehehar
<@&1133519078540185692> mr beast at it again
no way
Too nietze
damn
i didn't know miss her breast was a balala fan
mr beats should give me money
that shitty scam image they keep posting Joker
+2500 cash
(actually just sets money to 0)
we cannot make mr breast give away everyone money
and closes the game
and destroys Credit Card
inflation will rise
oh LOL
that qr code better be functional and give you loss or a rickroll
woah i forgot i meltered jimbo
holy shit cecil stedman
yea, but when i answered the phone
there was nothing but garbage noise
smh my head
whats the use case for this?
what you dont like being compared to gaster lol?
dipped in a vat of acid
just seems like either $1 and not much else
selling cards has a 1 in 4 to earn $10 and a 1 in 4 to set money to 0
anyhow next time i see personal drama in main im gonna start discussing taxes or smth
idk
tax? like the cryptid bl-
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
💥
what makes me a good demoman
Blank Check
Uncommon Joker
Add half of base Chips to Mult.
yes i moved the jokre
me to my haters (myself)
jesus
://offbyone
self anti-synergistic
phew almost had me there
(Max of $20)
^dollars already exists
isnt that just hermit
no cryptid in my spaghetti
th ats temperance
Man
waitwaitwait hermit is a xdollars effect
I am lacking todY 💔
its in the base game
thats the joke lol
what about {x} dollars
oh
that may be new territory
and im throwing it in notepad++ as the clubs suit based joker
waste of time
spaghetti from cryptid 🤯 🤯 🤯
souper mariol in real loyfe
true
what u gonna do with 1e308 cash bro
but you can see incredibly meaningful numbers
flash card value
again are you going to ever get 0 dollars
double it and give it to the next person
GAMBLING on those rerolls 🙏
guys whats a 5######10
wraith:
FORK FOUND IN KITCHEN
are we deadass still going 🥀
where we going
literally no one else is bullying astro
no one EVER let me behind the wheel
Speed Limit
Uncommon Joker
X2 Mult if a hand is played with $25 or more.
at this current moment
destroyed if drunkard is owned
better than boots
good enough
Damn
The Constitution gives Congress the power to tax. Congress typically enacts Federal tax law in the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (IRC).
sneakers?
eh i dont know us tax laws too lazy to continue the bit
that would approx take you 5e307 rerolls
sucked what
very rough aproximate
yeah its very rough
and why has your last 5 done that
"The Chariot" mod:
REROLL
what is happenign
5e307 rerolls
punch card
get a free reroll every shop item bought
js imagine.
is that an undertale-
rofflatro Cat Food lookin real tasty rn (retriggers lucky cards if both effects fail)
may i interest you in ortalab's chameleon joker?
hey thats me
common idea
or ditto joker
i saw one made out of the idea of mimics n stuff
buzz lightyear.gif.jpeg
may I interest you in Paya’s Exclamation DOS card?
that said, for how common of an idea it is, it never fails to please me when there’s another
Birth Certificate
Uncommon Joker
Earn $2 for every card with a Seal in your full deck
see, the other day i was trying to makje a circular object that revolves on an axle and is fixed below a vehicle or other object to enable it to move easily over the ground
then i just realized that's called a wheel 😂
i mean it rewards you for doing shit youre already supposed to be doing
i love reinventing the joker
i wouldnt compare it to 9 cloud
flash card:
ok
yeah but flash is scoring
Uuggggghhhgjgguuhhugguhutghhugughg
Everything has sucked
I may die
dice reference i like thatone
i think its easier to come up with shit if i make art for it first honestly
just keeps me in a line of thinking
and not all over the place
I come up with the art in my head first 💡
red card also rewards you for doing stuff you should be doing but many people feel the need to use random shit from packs that does nothing for the run
:)
i do effect first
yeah but you have no reason to stick with it
me having dumped an hour into a joker sprite makes me want to actually give it an effect and not just throw it away
I made a design for inflammation that doesn't mean I stuck with it 😭
to be fair, its either take a card or nothing and its not like having extra mult cards HURTS your play
one red card scale is worth 3/4ths of a mult card
really id say i only really skip spectrals
ok if you dont have red card
im fine with rcard
i just rarely skip packs unless i get a benefit from it
stop doing addition.
flar
i like red card's design
multiplicating
Red card took me a week to understand. I wondered why it wasn't working.
i cant manage econ when i have it on gold stake runes
you're not going to heaven
what
X3 Mult for each booster pack skipped 🔥
im sorry X3 would be way tooo high
thats faster scaling then legendaries
see if we care, buddy... get owned liberal 😂 😂
i’m the bay harbor freak
what if there was blue card
+2 Hand size per booster pack skipped last shop
and it gave chips
wow didnt know you had a guy
what if there was green card
ortalab i think
and it gave glop
werent they gon add a triangular orange card to association football or am i hallucinating
purple card it gives tarots
we getting nordish
what if there was a green card and it gave you permission to stay in balatro country
tarots from opening packs? thats just hallucination
Molotov Cocktail
Common Joker
+4 discards
-1 discard every round
ididnt say from opening packs
ever heard of glass joker humor
🪞 🔨
🐱 🔨
🇻🇪
omg is that ice. the person who beat me w it j a hammer yesterday like i just did with cg
deserved
@jaunty galleon ignore the text saying incompatible, I just didn't take into account that a mod could opt to not have a localization file, haha. But it's all set up
i did no such thing
yesterday
new fursona though, so i guess it's 🐶 🔨 now
who am i
slime guy
it’s not mine but true
yea
Maybe too weak?
the binding of isaac reference 🤯
cat hammerer vs dog welder vs squirrel stapler
slime girl
birl for short
no slime women at 1 pm
ough
2 pm however
im a slime
are you a woman
no
then why bring it up
slime
ok
annual lily makes a new oc day
which is actually just every day
um annual slime appreciation day
I'm still not satisfied with qwerty joker atm, I really don't want them to be a lame scoring Joker
Qwerty Joker
Uncommon Joker
This Joker gains 0.1X Mult per discard remaining at the end of a round.
only day a year i feel alive
🥹
i like it
would be cool if you just repeated qwerty for the background
X0.03 a round
💔
or qwertyuiop etcetera
qwertyqwe
rtyqwertyq
wertyqwert
y...```
I wanted qwerty to somewhat relate to consumeables
spin?
issac
💔
no
At end of round, change every consumable for a random one of its same type
Bane of perkeo
id take it
i will become back my money 🔥
I'm renaming qwerty Joker to cyber joker
I hope you will in your next time a cow on a trash farm you sucker 🔥
you value theming more than usability
yeah the background was binary regardless idk
got me
im so hurt
absolutely slayed that nerd
need a bit of elaboration on this part of the code @full edge , what does it do exactly before applying the colours ?
(also dunno much about LUA behavior but I am assuming _c and _default does something involving it ?)
I know G is clearly applying to the game itself as a whole, that much I got from the source code, and the C is for the colours in the game
Cyber Joker
Uncommon Joker
Create a Charm Tag if the final hand of round is played with 1 discard remaining.
ok
blitz that was directed at you
Oh
a
Is charm tag still too powerful
Final hand with 1 discard so it's 0 and 1
system2i+3
❌️ I'm wasting my time for a free arcana pack
✅️I'm cybermaxxing
Bad good or balanced good
Yeah just like dusk /hj
(s^2)ytem2i+1
I mean it's not Super complicated
Yeah
Forgive me for not immediately seeing the issue here
X1 mult if played hand contains a high card
+4 mult when a hand is played
literally just Cryptid The Filler
what if hand contains a joker
wjat if its all roulx caard
everyone is doing a lot of words joker but the joke is always it's meaningless fluff
aka. the dude from deltarune chapter 1
what if there's like
add more... fluff
more fluff reference
twinn
triangle
Spiral of Stars styled joker
where the fact it has a lot of words actually matters and it's a mechanics
legally i cannot explaain what Spiral of Stars is
but if you know what it is, you understand what i mean by "having a lot of words is actually a mechanics"
in fact, just a joker based on Spiral of Stars at all would be kinda neat
The Hammer:
This mighty tool will randomize a mutable value in your beloved jesters that will now be known as a "jester"'s extras table. But be careful, it can go both directions.. however, if getting the maximum value twice, you will be treated to a otherwise unobtainable *100 multiplier to your joker's stats. however, the dealer also knwon as jimbo will confiscate this card after you randomize a mutable value, making you ahve to find this card again out of the so called spectral card packs.
what if joker with less words than normal
J
+4
that's still fluuf tho
like Spiral of Stars having a lot of words not only because it has a lot of effect to describe
but like the fact it has a lot of word IS its CENTRAL MECHANICS
i can;t explain it one day you'll discover it
it's cool
I officially beat the jokerforgist allegations i'm making shit by myself
Flynnsanity 2.0 tomorrow (Declaration of Flynndependence)
is my code or jokerforge code more jank
guys im gonna add this, but it also subtract chips when the card is scored
good job, cant say the same abt myself (i willingly use jforge)
(except for custom card ranks)
Made some much needed nerfs to other legendaries. They were braindead strong before. Hope they are more reasonable. What do you think, folks?
Don't want them to be insta win jokers like chicot

"adds negative effect to food jokers" what?
good nerfs, would rather have krusty the klown have a 1 in 4 chance
adds negative edition to food jokers like gros michel, ramen, etc.
Infinite scoring but no scoring
In simpler terms: every food joker you come across (packs or shop) or generate permanently gains negative edition
46 chads copying a joker that gave me ^^^e300 for every card in my hand
had 46 cardsd
they recopied the joker 25 times w another joker retiggering my jokers e26 times
Wdym by that?
please word it like "Food Jokers gain Negative edition"
Theres no such wording in game
It always «adds» and «edition/effect»
for it to give you hashes in ur hand
yeah but when i read "Adds Negative effect to Food Jokers" i thought it meant like. a downside
he gives every card in my hand ^^^e300
chad retriggers him 25 times for each chad i had
is it bad that i scored that multiple times before
Questions?
i had 46 blueprints on one chad w another joker retriggering all my jokers e300 times
damn it localthunk
e26&
question
i should have gotten 16 hashtags when it was done
i have a joker that grants xmult and edits amount of hands
jeez man
is it blueprint compatiable
2.6 quadrillion times*
You have a better/more creative way to go about it?
for context e300 is more atoms then the observable universe
Im here to listen
i think if im correct i had ~2000 universes worth of score
thats at the low end though
could be up to 200k
make it only work if you have 22 or more enhanced cards
awesome
or if you're on linux
Ok buddy
1 - 1
both are good
its not enough
this is why i barely play cryptid
Fiery Joker
Uncommon Joker
Cards with Heart suit give $1 when discarded.
i feel like krusty makes sense, since he wont just up the quality of the burgers, hell just lower the price or some shit
bootleg faceless joker?
Well, arent Legendaries supposed to be unique?
remember, you can't really plan around getting a legendary
it just kinda... happens
perkeo:
crazy joker idea:
joker that gains x0.01 mult for each demon level you've beaten on geometry dash

Using Ankh to help make a route for a seed, How does the disable auto-save feature work with replays
Triple-layered Cake
After opening 3 booster packs, using 4 planet cards and scoring 7 enhanced cards, gain ^0.25
(currently ^1)
but does it disable the save up to the point you disabled auto save for replays as well?
Yeah, it just pops out of nowhere and either does nothing or shifts entire run around it
Burning Hot Potato
Destroy scored [rank] and gain +8 Mult
(currently +0)
(rank changes at end of round)

ok
Sewer Clown
1.5X mult for every skip tag
(currently X1)
I presume it works like Mail-in rebate, where it only checks the cards in your deck at the start of the next round?
that's saved in player stats, right?
why is it called oven if you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
