⚙・modding-general

[buoyant kestrel]

Wrist Path

[storm solar]

THE TREE

[humble rampart]

rhythm games adding difficulty

[storm solar]

wait can you move them

can you move the popups

[copper loom]

nop

[storm solar]

OH THATS EVIL

[main path]

what if someone made a library of babel mod
and it had a joker for every possible combination of pixels on a 71x95 surface

[buoyant kestrel]

we be deep in an iceberg for this one

[fierce mist]

Can you close them?

[pallid sequoia]

dunno why i thought of this when i first saw the message

[copper loom]

yep

[hard plank]

please

[storm solar]

dogg can you add this image to the popups

[main path]

so hypothetically 28,969,554,411,520 jokers

[pallid sequoia]

well it would also need to each have their own effects too

[copper loom]

of course

[fierce mist]

plus, every single possible ability

[main path]

no
like
every combination of rgba pixels that could ever exist on a 71x95 area

[fierce mist]

equals like what, naneinf jokers?

[storm solar]

wait can we modify it so we can add our own custom popups..

[humble rampart]

theres 17ish million color codes you can make with hex colors. from #000000 to #FFFFFF

17ish million to the power of 71×95

[main path]

there would be a jimbo somewhere in there

[humble rampart]

thats a lot

[fierce mist]

naneinf is a lower bound

[pallid sequoia]

and combination of ability? and what about numbers? like a +1 mult, then a +2 mult, then a +3 mult, then a +4 mult.. idk 4 is a big number there might be more after it

[buoyant kestrel]

transparency hell

[humble rampart]

oh yeah plus transparency

so way more than 17ish million

again, to the power of 71×95

[daring grove]

tried invisible rat but unfortunately the silhouette is not very good

[storm solar]

oh my god i just realized my mod is 20 mb

[humble rampart]

looks fine

idk what ur on

[humble rampart]

why is it that

[hard plank]

hot pot

[fierce mist]

@main path The idea is insane, and I love it! (even if way too many)

[round pilot]

hot potato tomorrow™

[daring grove]

the shape design on the original is far more distinct so i'm sticking with that

[humble rampart]

i mean if they have ur texture pack theyre gonna get what the silhouette is of

[storm solar]

28 seals, 40 consumables, 2 vouchers, 4 enhancements, 13 boosters, 105 jokers, custom balatro logo, custom mod icon. we have both 1x and 2x, a lua file, 9 sounds.

[hard plank]

oh ok

[main path]

never mind my og math was way off
2.061e64974 possibilities

[hard plank]

numberslop

[fierce mist]

that's naneinf!

[crude verge]

the forest

[humble rampart]

jokerforge is the best and worst thing to happen to balatro moding comunity

[copper loom]

If you want to add images, you will have to change a digit in the joker code and add the image to the popups folder with the name pop(number).png

[humble rampart]

i thoght that was dr houses cane

[void hound]

Does anyone know if Sybau's joker causes the game to crash if you interact with it? Or do I have a mod that's incompatible with Another Stupid Balatro Mod?

[pallid sequoia]

the Sybau just deletes all your current jokers after you win a blind

[fierce mist]

i thought it was a leaf blowe

[pallid sequoia]

i think

[plush hound]

rock solid rn

[copper loom]

Give me images related to balatro to add them as popups

[hard plank]

please play my mod and collect my pages

[storm solar]

ok

[humble rampart]

ew

[storm solar]

i’ll send in dms

[fierce mist]

????

[wispy canopy]

Hey chat what do we think of permascore on jokers?

[fierce mist]

yes

[visual kindle]

Unoriginal and generic but cool

[humble rampart]

i dislike it personallly

[humble rampart]

another window to get bogged down in

[wispy canopy]

i mean ive never seen it but :/

[visual kindle]

Anyone can think of it with 5 minutes of thinking though

[wispy canopy]

thats an interesting method of measuring originality

[fierce mist]

love the pants

[worn rain]

i fucking love Quick Look

[humble rampart]

i dislike it for the same reason im not a huge fan of hiker honestly
it just creates space in any build, for free

[visual kindle]

Nothing is original

originality doesn't exist

[pallid sequoia]

(slightly back to the infinite jokers thingy) If such a card we're to exist.. idk it might be ok? i wonder how many cards would be op and how many would be just not good at all?

[visual kindle]

Everything is just a copy of something that already exists slightly changed

[fierce mist]

and that's bad?

[visual kindle]

I love Hiker ngl

[fierce mist]

same here!

[humble rampart]

not bad

i dislike it

its personal preference

[wispy canopy]

You mean like you don't like how you can get use out of it even while it's gone?

[humble rampart]

yeah thats what im aiming at

[wispy canopy]

Gotchu

[fierce mist]

ah. Still, free space in builds helps add to simplification

[main path]

i mean there'd probably be more broken jokers than useless ones
if the effects were procedurally generated

[fierce mist]

Puts more effort on less jokers and saves room for more

[humble rampart]

if im going for a playing cards build (not flat mult from jokers)
i might go for something like, gold card 2 of spades

rank 2 for fib/even
spades for arrowhead for chips
gold for gold ticket/just flat econ

but with hiker i can replace the suit with something else

and thats boring to me

[wispy canopy]

i like this one

[humble rampart]

i dont understand the retrigger clause

[wispy canopy]

So like

[humble rampart]

it just tries to nerf your score until it doesnt activate fire?

[wispy canopy]

Yeah

[humble rampart]

ohh

[wispy canopy]

But gives money each time

[humble rampart]

thats cool actually

[fierce mist]

redoes all the cards until over, then pulls back

[visual kindle]

Ngl I hate that shit

[wispy canopy]

rude

[humble rampart]

hard to word but i like it

[visual kindle]

Matador but work on every blind

[humble rampart]

matador is ass already

i dont even consider it for comparison balancing

[wispy canopy]

it's not even close to matador what

[visual kindle]

I hate both

just the abilities boring

[wispy canopy]

no?

how?

[visual kindle]

and doesn't make sense

yes

[humble rampart]

you gotta explain urself better man

[wispy canopy]

Like it could be reworded sure but

[visual kindle]

what bullfighting has to do with earning money whenever a boss blind ability gets triggered

[humble rampart]

huh?

is this about smokey the bear?

[buoyant kestrel]

hiker got me an unreasonable amount of chips once so it will always hold a special place in my heart

[humble rampart]

fair also

[visual kindle]

It's bt matador

[fierce mist]

same reason scorigami got in my hand (homebrew card, but still)

[visual kindle]

Also falls in the same as Jokey Bear

[humble rampart]

a matador baits a bull and doges it
matador baits a blind's effect and lives through it

[exotic belfry]

Surely

[humble rampart]

a matador is literally the original ragebaiter

[visual kindle]

Matador doesn't bait a blind effect lol

It just gives you money when it triggers

[humble rampart]

you're baiting the blind's effect into triggering

[humble rampart]

yeah, thats what you do when you use it

[visual kindle]

No you're getting money for triggering blind's effect

It's not like

"Force trigger blind effect"

[wispy canopy]

No but you can willfully trigger the boss blinds effect to earn money

[wispy canopy]

like you play a debuffed card that's triggering the effect

[humble rampart]

matadors arent about the bull charging at them its about dodging out of the way

[visual kindle]

Yeah but it doesn't make any sense with the sprite and what It's supposed to be mean

unlike most of the jokers

[wispy canopy]

it makes perfect sense to me idk 😭

and you're saying jokey bear also falls into that category?

[worn rain]

funny lineup

[fierce mist]

has no one made a mod that debuffs bull when matador's on the same line?

[fierce mist]

YOOOO

[normal hollow]

chat

[fierce mist]

yes?

[humble rampart]

a matador is someone who baits a bull and dodges out of the way and is rewarded with admiration and fame
matador rewards you for baiting a boss's blind effect with money

[worn rain]

proceeded to lose my run because quick look crashed it

[visual kindle]

Yeah wth that has to do with not letting retriggers exceed score?? and giving X0.75 Mult if played hand exceeds blind requirement

[normal hollow]

https://youtu.be/K2NI3tcRvbs

[humble rampart]

its like as close to 1:1 as you're gonna get w balatro

[buoyant kestrel]

we got the suits with inherent effects

[wispy canopy]

jokey bear is based on smokey bear, a prominent figure against wildfires
if a single hand in balatro exceeds the blind requirement, it sets the score on fire. so joker bear reduces your score until its not on fire any more

[humble rampart]

oh i didnt make the fire connection

thats really funny actually

thats great

[visual kindle]

So just put the name Smokey Bear

[humble rampart]

i like that

[buoyant kestrel]

but no joker

also skill issue if you don't get the reference

[wispy canopy]

me when i nitpick

[humble rampart]

this is about the name now?

[visual kindle]

What If Balatro put the name of "Hit The Road" as "Hit the joke"

[wispy canopy]

that's not even close to the same

[visual kindle]

Exactly

doesn't make any sense

[worn rain]

seu pai onto nothing as usual

[buoyant kestrel]

i am realizing why i blocked you

[humble rampart]

as in what you're saying and whats happening isnt comparablr

[wispy canopy]

no i mean like for the thing you're talking about, jokey bear to smokey bear makes a whole lot more sense than hit the road to hit the joke

[visual kindle]

"Smokey Bear"
"Jokey Bear"
You literally changed the whole meaning

[copper loom]

I still have 20 more images to add (ignore joker image, its a placeholder for now)

[humble rampart]

hmmm, balatrue?

[fierce mist]

Love to see it happen in real time

[visual kindle]

It doesn't take more than two braincells to realize that

But I guess yall dont have more than two

[buoyant kestrel]

GRRRRRR I HATE PUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wispy canopy]

dawg its a name of a character

[forest knoll]

fun fact: block seu pai for a better discord experience ✨

[visual kindle]

You asked what I thought of

[buoyant kestrel]

i think you're stupid

[visual kindle]

Thought it didn't make sense because the ability didn't make sense with the sprite neither the name

[visual kindle]

And I am sure you are

[humble rampart]

seu pai i say this in a place of being on the spectrum myself have you ever gotten checked for autism

[buoyant kestrel]

can't trust your opinion lmfao

[visual kindle]

Then you said It's inspired in Smokey Bear

So literally put the name as Smokey Bear instead of Jokey???

Wth is the reason for keeping it Jokey

[humble rampart]

i dont mean this to be insulting its just i see a lot of shit i used to do myself in what you say

[fierce mist]

Whoever had that "X+1 mult per consecutive day Balatro Discord loses it", set that to x3, please

[buoyant kestrel]

do you know what jokes are buddy
we are in the joker game
with jokers
that joke

[visual kindle]

Yeah I know what jokes are but I also know what game design is

[buoyant kestrel]

no you dont

[humble rampart]

thats not game design

thats flavortext

[wispy canopy]

ah yes, jokes and game design are mutually exclusive

didn't know that

thanks seu pai

[visual kindle]

Sure you do thinking "Jokey Bear" is a good name for a Bear related to smoking

[humble rampart]

making a pact to block seu pai

whos with me

[buoyant kestrel]

thats not game design dumbass

[wispy canopy]

This is the image

[fierce mist]

Mmmm- okay

[forest knoll]

already done

[visual kindle]

Ok then it is common sense??

[buoyant kestrel]

ight

[humble rampart]

blocked

[buoyant kestrel]

i really shouldn't have unblocked them

[fierce mist]

blocked

[humble rampart]

my chest feels lighter

this is nice

[buoyant kestrel]

don't know why i did

[visual kindle]

If you don't wanna hear opinions simply sthu and don't ask for one

[humble rampart]

the world is healing

[buoyant kestrel]

oh wait its because they were exhibiting decent behavior for once

i can't even see the blocked msgs anymore though so no more of that 'forgiveness' thing

[fierce mist]

We're up for opinions, but yours are... insane, to be blunt

[visual kindle]

"We're up for opinions but we get offended when It's different from ours"

Basically the same thing

[buoyant kestrel]

wait i think when seu pai sends something even though vencord hides the message there is still a gap lol

[humble rampart]

the balatrocord is healing

[fierce mist]

Don't blame me, blame everyone else

[humble rampart]

this is good

[wispy canopy]

Nah I'd like opinions that aren't just nitpicking about something stupid like a reference you didn't get

[visual kindle]

Yeah thats what am doing

[fierce mist]

read above comment

[buoyant kestrel]

seu pai joker:
+1 Mult for each message from seu pai
You cannot see score or blind score

[humble rampart]

id be so rich

[fierce mist]

that's guaranteed naneinf

[buoyant kestrel]

get it bc you blocked them ehhehehehhe

[visual kindle]

Then just don't ask for opinions If you can't take criticism like a normal human being

[worn rain]

bros mad

[visual kindle]

All I did was say to rename Jokey Bear to Smokey Bear because it makes the reference easier to get

[hard plank]

someone please give me ting wd

[visual kindle]

Yeah I actually can't imagine people can have such big egos

[humble rampart]

@wispy canopy i have some jokurs you might like if you enjoy vanilla-er stuff actually

[buoyant kestrel]

ting wing dings

[fierce mist]

I don't think getting it particularly matters

[hard plank]

wingdings

[visual kindle]

Valid

[wispy canopy]

i don't get the reference to a joker, literally unplayable

[wispy canopy]

go ahead

[fierce mist]

so you agree that Jokey Bear is fine?

[visual kindle]

In my opinion "Smokey Bear" is better cuz it fits with the reference ability and everything else

[buoyant kestrel]

i don't know whats going on anymore except that the people who can still see seu pais messages seem very annoyed

[storm solar]

what if astro was named green and they were green

[wispy canopy]

we have a bunch of art and it depends on if the effect can fit

[fierce mist]

fair.

[visual kindle]

Literally what I wanted from people instead of them calling me stupid for sharing a opinion

[buoyant kestrel]

DID YOU KNOW FOUR FINGERS IS A LOSS REFERENCE?

[wispy canopy]

oh and plus even if you dont get the reference, the art for jokey bear has its eyes on fire

[fierce mist]

Well, you're known by me. thank you

[visual kindle]

Thanks

[humble rampart]

Surrealist Joker [C] 1 in 3 chance to create a D6 tag at end of round
Golconda [UC] +2 Handsize per Booster Pack skipped the previous shop (Currently +0)
Treachery [R] Once per shop, create a Charm Tag when Booster Pack is skipped

[fierce mist]

oh, it's no issue at all for me

[wispy canopy]

oh hold on

[humble rampart]

holding

[humble rampart]

YOOOOOO

[fierce mist]

||also, seu pai, sorry for making jokes at you||

[humble rampart]

i fuckin love treachery of images jokers

[visual kindle]

You didn't do anything wrong It's alr

[humble rampart]

thats so sick

[visual kindle]

I just got mad at the people calling me stupid for having a different point of view from them

[storm solar]

tiktok comment section going fucking crazy

[visual kindle]

Not good getting mad at people cuz It's childish but couldn't ignore it

[humble rampart]

balatro needs to get mainstreamer

[storm solar]

(i dont know how to turn on dark mode)

[fierce mist]

I get it, you know, I get it. A problem for me as well

[worn rain]

that fucking plant is dead

[pallid sequoia]

damn, even the mere presence of Chicot kills chat lmao

[buoyant kestrel]

i dunno it might have been the giant argument

[pallid sequoia]

.....naaaaaah it was chicot :P

[fierce mist]

seu pai = chicot confirmed

[humble rampart]

thas stanscnsnzyk >:((((

i think>:((

[visual kindle]

Secret identity

[exotic belfry]

Good evening

[worn rain]

hello

[deft ore]

good evening to you as well

[honest zephyr]

what do you guys think this does

[worn rain]

bes swag

[humble rampart]

look cool as hell

[pallid sequoia]

gives your jokers cool shades B)

[humble rampart]

thats it

[worn rain]

sigma blind

[exotic belfry]

All suits are black suits

[visual kindle]

Cards get swag

[deft ore]

All cards have Sunglasses for this blind

[sweet bramble]

disables all dark suits

[deft ore]

Sunglasses obscure two random pieces of information about the card

[visual kindle]

ngl this might be it

[deft ore]

Could hide rank and suit

[pallid sequoia]

you cant see the suit of your cards cause of the tint :O

[humble rampart]

all chances are 3

[deft ore]

Could hide enhancement and permabonuses

[fierce mist]

I don't think they hear you

but yeah, this might be it

[deft ore]

Could hide what joker it is and the edition

[visual kindle]

probably

[humble rampart]

hiker stays losing

[honest zephyr]

Shadowy Shades
All Light suits (Hearts and Diamonds) are debuffed

[humble rampart]

close enough, welcome back amber

[pallid sequoia]

now i want to see all the joker with sick as hell shades on

[worn rain]

this makes more sense

[exotic belfry]

Just realized you are very new here, welcome

[deft ore]

oh yeah those are like. the only things to hide on a joker

ig stickers?

[pallid sequoia]

thank you! happy to be here ^-^

[humble rampart]

i have a joker with green shades

[exotic belfry]

[humble rampart]

does that count

[deft ore]

2/3 chance to effectively flip your joker

[worn rain]

be careful they may offer you a lukewarm potato

[deft ore]

It's getting pretty hot

[exotic belfry]

The oven is still hot I tell ya

[worn rain]

nah its getting cold because its late

[honest zephyr]

i'm trying to make like. a riff/joke off of the "ridiculously powerful enemies" in the undertale 10th anniversary stream

[pallid sequoia]

a riff... joke?

like.. a riff-raff joke?

[honest zephyr]

so i'm making "ridiculously powerful" (cough not really) blinds

[exotic belfry]

Let's just say someone bit off WAY more than they could chew with a feature that is taking a ton of resources to debug

[honest zephyr]

and yes the blind music will be the strongerer monsters song

[worn rain]

haha L

[humble rampart]

the question everyone had on their mind

[exotic belfry]

It will be fixed eventually™ I swear

[worn rain]

my mod dropped with one of the 15 cards in the beta having a toggle in config because of how unstable it is 😢

still has crashes that i havent found a fix for

[exotic belfry]

Honestly fair tho

[sweet bramble]

real

[worn rain]

also my mod does have a bit of a noticeable bug

[deft ore]

oooh

[worn rain]

god damn that is way better than my attempt at a golden record

[exotic belfry]

The woes of first releases lol

[humble rampart]

is that the shit they put on the moon

[deft ore]

no it's on Voyager

[humble rampart]

on space

[deft ore]

voyager is going way farther than the moon

yeah in space

[worn rain]

as in held effects are being retriggered Twice instead of once oops

[exotic belfry]

They're both outside the heliosphere which is insane to think about

[worn rain]

idk if thats possible man.. moon pretty far.... how do we convince the catholics ...

[deft ore]

how does that happen???

[exotic belfry]

LMAO

[worn rain]

obviously my shitty implementations

[pallid sequoia]

The Burn - Adds burnt to each played card [Burnt: -1 Mult]

[exotic belfry]

That is a painful blind

[deft ore]

what is burnt

[worn rain]

bro cant read

[exotic belfry]

Bro did not read

[deft ore]

is this just permabonus stuff or is it unenhancing my cards i mean

[worn rain]

🤝

[exotic belfry]

[deft ore]

It would be painful if it was an enhancement but just permabonuses are... actually still painful but less so

[exotic belfry]

It seems like an enhancement

[worn rain]

actively trying to debug it lmao

[pallid sequoia]

i spit out words and think of them later, so your guesses are as good as mine rn

[exotic belfry]

fnuuy

[deft ore]

Cool

or i guess hot actually

given the cards are burnt

[worn rain]

also quick look copying stuff like Steel Joker also crashes lmao

[honest zephyr]

Shining Sun
All Dark suits (Spades and Clubs) are debuffed

[worn rain]

not tryin to fix that one tbh

[buoyant kestrel]

crowds special ability

[deft ore]

not very finisher-y

[deft ore]

Eyes from Grab Bag if it was based

[round pilot]

hot potato

[deft ore]

hot potato

[buoyant kestrel]

pass it on?

[honest zephyr]

tbf the "ridiculously strong monsters" in the undertale 10th anniversary stream aren't really that hard so i think the blinds could have some wiggle room in difficulty

[pallid sequoia]

ok another "scary" boss blind:
The Mixer - Brings chaos and banishes order (randomly shuffles your hand around every few seconds or so)

[forest knoll]

splatoon reference?

[deft ore]

I meant more in the vein of how threatening it is to every build

[honest zephyr]

but ALSO half of your normal deck is dark suits so half of your normal deck is debuffed

[exotic belfry]

You're gonna make me foam at the fucking mouth I need these bugs to get fixed asap so you people can stop being vague about it 😭

[deft ore]

IMO finisher blinds should be threatening to every build

this is also why verdant leaf is the worst finisher

[exotic belfry]

Violet Vessel is like
It.

[deft ore]

equally threatening

[storm solar]

Tacoing Taco
just turns your computer into a taco when blind is selected

[buoyant kestrel]

violet vessel is the prime example

[pallid sequoia]

boss blind: The Ransom - shows your credit card details on screen

[deft ore]

Amber Acorn and Cerulean Bell are equally threatening to every build in the sense they never fucking do anything

[honest zephyr]

now that i've already ran out of suit debuffing ideas it's time for me to Get Creative...

[buoyant kestrel]

Cerulean Bell is so mediocre bro i forgot it exists

[exotic belfry]

I can't believe you skimmed my chromium saves wtf

[pallid sequoia]

YOURE MAKING THESE ON YOUR PHONE?

[storm solar]

The Doxxer, Your IP Address is the blind chips requirement

HOLUS HIT AMON GUS

[honest zephyr]

is play only 1 hand and start with 0 discards too cruel?

[chilly pine]

hotpot

[deft ore]

Yes

[storm solar]

i love jirlot

the fuck

thats supposed t9 say hotpot

[chilly pine]

jirlot

[honest zephyr]

what if i lower the blind requirement?

[main path]

next legendary joker leaked 🔥

[pallid sequoia]

i cant tell whats worse: the fact youre doing pixel art on your phone or the fact that its in portrait orientation

[chilly pine]

portrait is the only correct way to paint

[deft ore]

Still no

[storm solar]

chicot found dead in the bronx, replaced with jirlot

[chilly pine]

ibis is a crime though

[deft ore]

Both is awful because you just fucking die instantly if you're even slightly unlucky

[buoyant kestrel]

nah we got blue money and red money

[honest zephyr]

okay what about 1 singular discard

[deft ore]

1 hand 1 discard small blind size with +5 handsize

[honest zephyr]

you better make it count...

[pallid sequoia]

ok here me out... 2 discards?

[deft ore]

they call it blue stake because it makes your discards blue

2 is too many

[pallid sequoia]

1 discard
2 discard
red discard
blue discard
*drops mic*

[deft ore]

what if 1 hand 1 discard small blind size with +5 handsize and +2 card selection limit

[exotic belfry]

He's blue for an amazing reason

[storm solar]

1 in 4 chance for play hand and discard to randomly switch every 0.5 seconds

[forest knoll]

cryptid very fair deck moment

[pallid sequoia]

blind? are your eyes ok?

[harsh glacier]

guys we should um. we should uh. um..

[honest zephyr]

nah... since i've ran out of suit debuffing ideas, i shall create true suffering

[exotic belfry]

who's haya that's clearly N

[buoyant kestrel]

1 in 4 chance to uninstall balatro and install a virus into steam that prevents you from downloading it again

[chilly pine]

N of derivative

[honest zephyr]

1 hand
1 discard
1x base

[storm solar]

oops all sixes

[deft ore]

who puts that before the function

[harsh glacier]

guys im totally N creattor of joyous sping

[chilly pine]

i do

[deft ore]

1 hand 1 discard 1 handsize 1 selection size

BUT:

[honest zephyr]

...i'm gonna take that as a "that idea is bad i will rip off your face".

[deft ore]

1 blind size

[deft ore]

REDEMPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pallid sequoia]

i think im missing some niche joke thats been developed for over 20 years in this specific community :,)

[honest zephyr]

should i... be taking it that way?

[deft ore]

the bird?

[pallid sequoia]

honestly not sure lmao

[buoyant kestrel]

the bird isn't from here.

[chilly pine]

derivative is just a function that returns another function so we can apply the function N to derivative as long as N is a function that takes in a function

[exotic belfry]

Nah probably the JoyousSpring stanning

[honest zephyr]

what if instead of colon three it was colon. Four...

[harsh glacier]

joyous

[buoyant kestrel]

:4

[main path]

:4

[buoyant kestrel]

nose

[pallid sequoia]

:5

[harsh glacier]

remind me to update pta in a week

[deft ore]

:6

[exotic belfry]

:9

[main path]

3:

[buoyant kestrel]

:153

[chilly pine]

4*

[deft ore]

what happened to 7 and 8

[pallid sequoia]

:-1

[chilly pine]

guy shitting

4*

[main path]

they dont exist

[honest zephyr]

SEVEN ATE NINE!!!!!!!!!!

[buoyant kestrel]

:-3

[pallid sequoia]

I CAN DREAM

[deft ore]

why is nine still here then

[chilly pine]

its just upside down 6

[honest zephyr]

slaps knee and loudly laughs

[chilly pine]

duh

[deft ore]

two copies of six

[buoyant kestrel]

they escaped

[storm solar]

nine had half of him bitten off, he is in the hospital healing

[main path]

clearly 7 and 8 are constructs by the government to distract us from the fact that octal is a better system

[deft ore]

also whered 8 go

[chilly pine]

evil clone

[buoyant kestrel]

:--1

[storm solar]

hanging out with 6

[chilly pine]

8 called in sick

[storm solar]

10 is next.

[exotic belfry]

But why was 10 scared? [I HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO NO LONGER CONTINUE THIS JOKE]

[storm solar]

because 10 is next.

[pallid sequoia]

idk what i expected when i saw the modding chat but.. yea no i guess im not surprised to see numbers everywhere

[chilly pine]

7 eleven

[exotic belfry]

Welcome to hell /j

[buoyant kestrel]

the faces of hell

[chilly pine]

atleast its not hyperoperators brian

[honest zephyr]

so is the only way for the blind to be balanced if its play only 1 hand and start with 1 discard is if it has +5 handsize and +2 card selection

[exotic belfry]

Play my modifications

[worn rain]

i think its smods

[chilly pine]

LMAo

[main path]

what rarity would a joker that raises discard limit by 3 be

[pallid sequoia]

....should i feel glad from you doing that or violated?? i cant tell >->

[chilly pine]

rare

[forest knoll]

why was 5 afraid of 6
because 6 7
um

uhhhhhh

[exotic belfry]

Is this without downside?

[main path]

no downside

[exotic belfry]

Rare

[chilly pine]

you get like double your normal discard value

[deft ore]

Welcome to modding chat, can I get you a Talisman crash or some Vanilla+?

[deft ore]

No

[storm solar]

why is 2 scared of 8

[chilly pine]

oh my god

[worn rain]

is my mod vanilla+ .................

[deft ore]

1 hand 1 discard =1 blind size

[deft ore]

I havent played Gravitas yet

[chilly pine]

can i have a Hot Potato

[worn rain]

tragic

[main path]

i'd like a 3 hour calculation screen

[chilly pine]

im quite hungry

[honest zephyr]

what like... 1 chip score or 1x base

[deft ore]

1 chip score

[buoyant kestrel]

I WANT MY ExoMythicEpicAwesommicemob!eUncommon2MExotic22ExoMythic4meCipewith a batch of Fries+!!!

[worn rain]

also i likely wont be making gravitas talisman compatible because thats a major pita

[chilly pine]

fuck talisman

[deft ore]

will that be pure cryptid or with addons

[worn rain]

and it isnt made to go that big num anyway

[honest zephyr]

this isn't the Damn Daniel blind from yahimod

[worn rain]

its not number go up its FUN go up

[pallid sequoia]

Boss Blind: Slowly decreases your chip count (its so huungy :3)

[exotic belfry]

I'd say no considering the entire mechanic it's built around is completely unique

[main path]

with a side of mayhem, please

[exotic belfry]

The Glutton

[chilly pine]

gravitas is awesome

[worn rain]

fair nuf also have u tried it yet

[deft ore]

I would call it vanilla++ assuming it meets all my other criteria

[chilly pine]

i havent played it but it looks cool

[deft ore]

Grab Bag is also vanilla++

[chilly pine]

what is medium

[buoyant kestrel]

c++ ahh

[exotic belfry]

I have not, genuinely too busy overseeing fucking hotpot bugfixing

[forest knoll]

the universe has punished me for making this joke by making me knock over my hot water kettle
deserved tbh

[deft ore]

So true

[honest zephyr]

i had an idea...
After Play or Discard, always draw 1 card

[storm solar]

whens cookiesandcream++

[chilly pine]

rocky road ++

[deft ore]

The Serpent if it was evil and fucked up

[chilly pine]

67

[worn rain]

this is how to make people sad

[worn rain]

bros potmaxxing

[honest zephyr]

oh yeah i should probably mention
these blinds are meant to appear after like. ante 16?

[crude verge]

papers please

[worn rain]

FIRE

[storm solar]

well i cast: instant decapitation but you are still alive.

[worn rain]

69 42 67 😭

these numbers man

[crude verge]

69 67 420 1234

[buoyant kestrel]

wing ding papers

[honest zephyr]

if you've gotten past ante 16 i think i should be able to punch you in the face with Play only 1 hand Start with 1 discard once in a while

[deft ore]

Okay yeah nvm thats fine then

[worn rain]

its a good thing i usually die or start a new run before then

[deft ore]

No changes needed

If you're not deckfixed enough by ante fucking 16 you deserve it

[crude verge]

nobody talking about the loss

[worn rain]

i didnt notice😭

[storm solar]

and i also cast fireball

[deft ore]

how does it use the super meter

[storm solar]

oh fuck you

[crude verge]

:trollface :

[storm solar]

anyways

i cast..

a loud ringing frequency

what’d you say i cant hear you?

[crude verge]

changed to be the balatro launch date.

the loss and junk code stills

[fiery vapor]

ngl you should reference jenny in the passport id 😈

[honest zephyr]

Secured Shackle
Play only 1 hand, start with 1 discard
1x Base

[fiery vapor]

8675309

[crude verge]

whats more funny?, 69 67 420 1234, or jennys number?

[fiery vapor]

or maybe even reference something related to papers please maybe its release date or first or last day of the story

i think it takes place in the fall of 198x i need to replay papers please i loved that game

[deft ore]

jennys number

[fiery vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHL2XeuA6Yg

unironically goes hard for an one hit wonder

[worn rain]

8 what? 5309

[daring grove]

her chin so chopped 🥀

[fiery vapor]

i cannot believe it

[worn rain]

LMAO

[storm solar]

skill issue

[crude verge]

1234 is the best password ever

[fiery vapor]

tommy tutone predicted brainrot slop

i cannot believe this

maybe thats why they disbanded they got this curse

[fiery vapor]

who is this mouse

69? like the hit album 69 love songs?

[crude verge]

trade offer, funny numbers without 67

[deft ore]

leek hotpot

[fiery vapor]

boobies upside down

[buoyant kestrel]

poopies!!

[fiery vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ufO0PAXWI

jenny's number is eternal (you can say it)

[crude verge]

changed 67 with the answer to life the universe and everything.

[pallid sequoia]

ok im bac- ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT DAMN NUMBER??

[storm solar]

SLIMECICLE MENTIONED OH MY FUCKING GOD

[pallid sequoia]

.....wait ....is that ..loss?

[storm solar]

I SAW THAT SHIT

[fiery vapor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PzmJu7NNKXU where can i play this mod btw

just asking for a friend

[crude verge]

yes

[pallid sequoia]

im sad i saw that

[crude verge]

sorry

[fiery vapor]

also making a bed fight jschlett is the most minecraft collab with him thing ever

[fiery vapor]

fuck yeah

i love hitchhikers

[hard plank]

wow

[storm solar]

cant find itZ

[hard plank]

it's just like my pure cards

[crude verge]

guest whats the next game im gonna add to my mod

[storm solar]

king of

[crude verge]

is the most "why?!" game ever put in a balatro mod, trust

[storm solar]

12 bananas

[buoyant kestrel]

that was originally going to just be a placeholder sprite but the art went too hard

[fiery vapor]

Fucked up world we live in

[crude verge]

well....

... i wani hug that gator

[buoyant kestrel]

does smods add a scroll menu after a certain point because i'm adding way more than this

[crude verge]

yeh, im making a joker about that.

a joker

[forest knoll]

it does not unfortunately

[buoyant kestrel]

fuck ig i'll have to patch that in

[forest knoll]

install sigil for testing

[crude verge]

i guest this is how peak looks

[daring sluice]

huge news for birthlatro enjoyers

[buoyant kestrel]

hc

[storm solar]

does 6 suits have friends of jimbo

[worn rain]

playing it

[worn rain]

wtf😭

[forest knoll]

no [SHAMELESS PROMOTION START] but paperback's extra suits do [SHAMELESS PROMOTION END]

[daring sluice]

i cooked peak

[wispy canopy]

Pretty much

Might be uncommon

But idk rare seems appropriate

I like this one a lot

[worn rain]

rare is necessary for copy effects

ortalab

[wispy canopy]

that was us !

oh and ortalab

[barren ridge]

and proxy card (from the bakery mod)

wait that's last bought joker

[worn rain]

this is like, one of few exceptions because of how wonky this is to work with

i can see that being uncommon

[lost bolt]

it is common

[wispy canopy]

this one is funny

[lost bolt]

lowkey it actually made sense as a common since it was kinda bad

[worn rain]

cryptobros in balala 🥀

[barren ridge]

isn't that an infinite loop if you play just 1 card?

[worn rain]

it would obviously not count a card as both first and last

or if it does, simply 2 triggers

i think its a simple context.repetition check

[pallid sequoia]

i exist for half a second, gn astro :D

[hard plank]

wtf

sophist

[daring grove]

ok so i've done a bit of respriting what do i do to see it ingame

ive just drawn over the jokers.png file

do i just replace the thing

[worn rain]

if u want to release it as a texture pack i suggest looking into malverk

in #1209506514763522108

[tired prairie]

uh whenever I put the balatro multiplayer mod in my mods folder the game crashes do any of yall know why

[worn rain]

do you have the crash log

[deft ore]

will this have cardpronouns support

to prevent gay sex

[tired prairie]

sorry for the peope on the side

[daring sluice]

im carefully considering it

[worn rain]

you dont have smods Lmao?

or you installed it wrong

[tired prairie]

i got the smods main right here 😭

[worn rain]

is it nested

[tired prairie]

no

[deft ore]

old version

update it

[worn rain]

it has to be that specific older release for multiplayer

[deft ore]

No multiplayer wants 0711a

That one's older than 0711a

[worn rain]

oh yea prob

update to 0711a

[deft ore]

Update to 0711a instead of latest release though

[tired prairie]

so i just updade my steammod

[worn rain]

not to latest release but yes

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta-0711a

get this one

[round ore]

very friggin old smods

is balatromp so fucking shit

[tired prairie]

yall are life savers thank you guys 🥹

[hard plank]

98%

[round ore]

99%

[daring grove]

reading how malverk works and i still don't really understand it how do i insert the spritesheet to test it

[kind arch]

can anyone tell me what mod lets you choose a pack during your first round
you can pick like a celestial pack or joker pack etc

[barren ridge]

that sounds a bit like the drafting mod

[kind arch]

ill look for it and add it and see if thats it

nah not it

[barren ridge]

if I have some neat modded deck ideas but no idea how to code them, would this be a good place to post them?

[kind arch]

crashed because of bunco?

[daring sluice]

likely story

[dense egret]

how many mods right now?

[hard plank]

play my mod

[dense egret]

if it's just to discuss the idea or the logic/balancing yes, otherwise #💻・modding-dev will help you a lot more

[dusty token]

good 1pm

[worn rain]

play my mod

[barren ridge]

ok then, here's my deck ideas

[dense egret]

ok backseat sounds funny

Oops all jokers sounds like it would crash if you have unbalanced mods installed

[dusty token]

multiplayer couldve used the == sign instead of >= for smods deps

[dense egret]

Expensive deck is very unbalanced

well if you want your mod be vanilla+, i forgot to ask

[barren ridge]

not vanilla+ per se, but ideally not broken either

[dense egret]

double deck is like the brother of plasma deck i love it xd

[dense egret]

can you explain mahjong?

[barren ridge]

sure, what about it is unclear?

[olive hamlet]

Hyperbolic scaling ^Mult on Ancient rarity scaling Jokers. While it should still allow unbalanced stuff, it will essentially ensure that stuff will not be completely broken and that you still need supporting Jokers alongside those

For instance, ^2 is already quite broken although you now need much more effort to get there with this in place and will not scale afterwards (or at least so slow its not worthwhile)

[dense egret]

what cards spawns?

A K Q J 10 9?

[barren ridge]

ace 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, in 3 suits

27 cards total

[dense egret]

you probably should writte 9-A

I mean, it's not the most important thing

[kind arch]

uhhh maybe like

idk at least 20

[kind arch]

why

[barren ridge]

so you said expensive deck is quite broken? I can't really lower the starting money much more without making it uninteractive/unfun to pass so many shops, so I guess that means I should decrease the amount of cards that get editions?

[dense egret]

mmmmm imo reducing all income by 50% would be more fun.

starting with an all enchanced deck sound easy to win

[barren ridge]

reducing all future income wouldn't thematically make sense for an expensive deck though

[dense egret]

Oops all jokers sounds easy too (leaving the crashes aside)
you should put a disadvantage

[barren ridge]

does 20 editioned cards and starting at -$1 sound fine? or is that maybe still too many?

[dense egret]

sounds better tbh

oh the plural of luchador is luchadores

[barren ridge]

good to know, and here I thought microsoft was just drunk as usual

[dense egret]

xd?

all the decks sounds amazing tbh, you thought on the effects of the sleves?

[barren ridge]

it's offering so many corrections in the word document and that's the only one it got right

[dense egret]

sleeves

[dense egret]

XD

[barren ridge]

as in unique effects? usually a sleeve's normal effect is the same as the deck effect, right?

[dense egret]

thats right, but is common to have another effect when the sleeve is the same as the deck

for example:
Power crept deck (x2)
all the values of the jokers gets multiply by 1.1 each ante

[barren ridge]

I hadn't thought of those, yeah I guess I could design unique effects like that

[dense egret]

i hope, whats your mod?

[barren ridge]

I don't currently have one, it's just in the idea phase

[dense egret]

oh good luck in it

Unfortunately, I don't know enough to help you with something like that

[drowsy parrot]

are you guys ready for hotpot

[chilly pine]

consumable set idea

[fervent vessel]

it will be peak

[turbid ruin]

Slow down guys i have dementia

[chilly pine]

new consumable set

[pallid sequoia]

Consumable set: consume the ui

[turbid ruin]

How about something that has to do with disabling some jokers from appearing or make one of your jokers not appear anymore in exchange for tags or money etc

:>

[pallid sequoia]

Shadow realm tag when?

[turbid ruin]

I just want an excuse to not play photograph and hanging chad honestly

[chilly pine]

no

[turbid ruin]

L mod

[chilly pine]

ok

[turbid ruin]

There’s no rope emoji

🙁

[pallid sequoia]

Consumable that turns a selected joker sideways and flips it, it is now in defence position

[manic summit]

I would want to use that emoji too if I had the mommy server tag

[turbid ruin]

I’m not sure your parents would let you join sweetie

Now shut the fuck up

[manic summit]

💀🙏

[dense egret]

im pretty sure this exist already

[pallid sequoia]

DAMMIT

[dense egret]

just because it exist dont mean you cant make yours

[chilly pine]

application interface consumable set

[manic summit]

application... like.. a job application... 😨😨

[pallid sequoia]

....timmad- ok retracted the statement :D

[pallid sequoia]

j*b

[dense egret]

job2

[pallid sequoia]

NO NOT ANOTHER ONE

[manic summit]

job²

[dense egret]

im going to kill my wifi

[round ore]

Is that bilibili

[chilly pine]

ye

[manic summit]

Only thing I've watched from bilibili is The Daily Life of The Immortal King, peak anime frfr

[round ore]

https://fxtwitter.com/4LK_UQ/status/1974534326936305770

ALK (@4LK_UQ)

Are you going to let her inside?
︀︀
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[chilly pine]

what

[dusty token]

engine/sprite

[obsidian sky]

well at least it's not engine/unity

[dusty token]

engine/unreal

[obsidian sky]

balatro will now require 32 gb ram minimum and a gpu that can run [the forbidden tech]

[dusty token]

i should probably optimize these both too

is it worth it though?? idk

atlas is originally 5-6s now its just 4-6ms

modlist

[wanton rapids]

oh that's cool how did you generate that

the modlist dump

[dusty token]

#1413687995378176021

[wanton rapids]

ooh

wait it doesn't require lovely??? that's neat

[dusty token]

it still requires lovely. the bundled one doesn't, its meant as installation shortcut

[wanton rapids]

oh okay. that's still neat though

[turbid ruin]

Just wanted to share this divine thing i stumbled upon

[keen knoll]

good morning

[grand shadow]

guys

[eternal portal]

hi im cass

[woven crag]

hi cas

[grand shadow]

ello cass

[woven crag]

like thje creaotr of joker forge

🤯

[eternal portal]

[cass words]

[grand shadow]

real

[eternal portal]

im very wise

[keen knoll]

what

[woven crag]

goodmorning

the creator of joker forge

[keen knoll]

???

[woven crag]

that is what he is called

[keen knoll]

ok,,

[round ore]

What do you not know Cass

[summer geyser]

My favourite suit, .

[prisma latch]

i really need a better legendary effect for V2 than "Gives a positive version of the last Boss Blind's effect", thats just like. chicot but better

[keen knoll]

its what chicot shoukd be

[woven crag]

exadversum astronomica my beloved

[prisma latch]

guys does it speak to any bias of mine that every single pokemon joker is legendary

[distant compass]

I making a spectral card that applies a seal but I have a question
is it gonna be:
extra={seal="key"}
or
extra={seal="prefix_key"}

[keen knoll]

prefix

[prisma latch]

i should really do smth abut the fact that basically none of my jokers have blueprint compat programmed huh

[distant compass]

ok thx

[obsidian sky]

first discard of round will instead score cards, with X0.75 mult (because both the knucklebuster and discards are red, both are like "secondary weapons", and knucklebuster has a long reload)

what if there was a gabriel legendary that converts the rightmost card used in scoring into glass

[prisma latch]

interesting

[keen knoll]

gabriel mcsm?

also thats not really legendary worthy

[prisma latch]

yeah maybe not

[keen knoll]

id say uncommon tbh

[prisma latch]

i do want to have a v2 legendary that works off the idea of v2 having the same moveset as you

so like. the v2 legendary giving you the same moveset as your enemy, which in this case would be. the blind?? how do i do that without making Chicot 2

[keen knoll]

oooh ik

make it scale some effect on the blind requirement

[prisma latch]

how do you mean

[keen knoll]

uhh

[prisma latch]

oh do you mean like. the higher the blind req, the higher it scales?

[keen knoll]

yea

[prisma latch]

perhaps

[woven crag]

make exadversum 2

[prisma latch]

anyways

if i reversed the order of the boxes would it make it clearer that only cards that were already moons get scored with +10 mult

im gonna do that and also say "converts to moons after scoring"

[keen knoll]

yea effects USUALLY are activated in the same order as the description

i think

[prisma latch]

hi aiko

[hard plank]

@willow wolf

[willow wolf]

im busy rn

[prisma latch]

is having 1/4 of my jokers be legendaries on my first release a bad idea

[wanton rapids]

what on earth is that

[wanton rapids]

how many jokers do you have. it's probably fine

[keen knoll]

what on blender*

[prisma latch]

like. 60

[willow wolf]

metalheart

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah then that's fine

[prisma latch]

so 45 normal 15 legendary

[junior rock]

it would be better if you said "after the played hand has finished scoring".
Midas mask doesn't convert after, despite having the same wording

[woven crag]

hello

im making value manipulation but good

thoughts

[keen knoll]

hi

[woven crag]

also what the fuck is prevent_trigger

[keen knoll]

isnt that called a safety

[trail berry]

for what

[woven crag]

idfk

its in here though

[keen knoll]

maybe its for like a debuff effect?

like a temporary "dont run this joker" flag

[woven crag]

hmmmm

probably

i imagine its for context.post_trigger then

[prisma latch]

ok fliped it

[wind turtle]

It's to prevent tags from triggering.

[hard plank]

please

[hard plank]

this looks a bit weird imo

[prisma latch]

wdym

like the phrasing?

[hard plank]

the "ears" are kinda small

[prisma latch]

oh yeah the art

no yeah the art kinda sucks

i just dont wanna fix it

cause it sucked to draw

lol

ill probably maybe redo it in the future

[hard plank]

make eyes bigger

the pupil

and also the "ears"

[prisma latch]

damn umbreon is cracked

ive got 23 moon suit cards on ante 2

and its increasing rapidly

oh shit cyan no way

thats great

unscored cards still get converted so

BROKEN RECORD??

damn im just running an unscored card build today huh

broken record is still one of my favourite jokers in my mod

[solemn mason]

John Crash himself keeps coming to my house and throat-punching me.

[prisma latch]

ive nearly eliminated the diamonds suit entirely

[solemn mason]

Something about numbers and tables.

[wanton rapids]

can you send the full crash log?

[woven crag]

okay i added a config option to enable manipulating talisman hyperoperation arrows in returns

isnt that fun

[prisma latch]

the king of diamonds is the only diamond left alive

[hard plank]

hi i just joined yesterday what mods do i play

[distant badge]

cryptid... erm...

[prisma latch]

aikoyori's shenanigans is pretty good ive heard

[storm solar]

play aikoyori’s shenanigans

and use joker forge

never test your mods

[distant badge]

ask people why your game is crashing and don't provide a crashlog

[storm solar]

eat crayons

[solemn mason]

Sent.

[prisma latch]

i loveee trying to fish for the one card in my deck thats not a moon suit

"oh shit jimbo died"

(me when my gros died. for some reason)

[digital jungle]

play mayhem i heard its pretty good and balanced

[prisma latch]

YESS i got the single non-moon card in my deck

i can fix it now

[dull field]

Just gonna leave this here. No “particular” reason…

[prisma latch]

cavendish

[storm solar]

what editions is this?

[digital jungle]

bro got that polychrome cavendish

[solemn mason]

Never mind. I'll just trial and error it.

[prisma latch]

wait damn i cant play a two pair with an unscored card for broken record

any hand of 5 cards is a flush

i need to get this glass king generator online NOW

just had wheel hit holo on a joker i now immedaitely want to get rid of

ok i have umbreon and nightmare night now

a moonstone would be lovely right about now

even though its not actually. a scoring joker

[hard plank]

look at my join date

I'm new

[wanton lintel]

oh god

[umbral pilot]

omg I love banners

[prisma latch]

my build is absolutely cracked rn:

• Broken Record: if rightmost card is unscored, score it and retrigger it 3 times
• Fib
• Nightmare Night: Scored moons give +3 Mult
• Umbreon: Scored moons give +10 Mult, Played cards become moons
• Photograph

[umbral pilot]

but bejewling it means you can't eat the best part :-(

[hard plank]

i should be involved in everything

[prisma latch]

BARON??

OK BYE FIB

THE PLANT? WELL FUCK

i can still sweep. i have a glass ace

[umbral pilot]

they should make edible jewels so you can eat a bedazzled banana mmmm

I love bananas

[prisma latch]

ok the glass ace broke but i sweeped

umbreon crashed

[civic atlas]

i love eating banana peels

[prisma latch]

cause the glass broke

ok note to self umbreon does not like trying to convert cards that no longer exist

[umbral pilot]

omg me too

do you like pöatains

[fathom gust]

face card fans sayin “my life is set”
like no bitch, the is coming 😂

[civic atlas]

mayhaps

[woven crag]

in what situation would this occur

because if you destroy and convert cards in the proper contexts those shouldnt interfere

[prisma latch]

glass card

[umbral pilot]

sometimes you are too hungry for just the banana schlobg and you want a little bit more

[prisma latch]

im converting the cards via events in context.after

[umbral pilot]

very normal to eat the peel

[prisma latch]

which may be really jank. idk

[woven crag]

why not context.before

like

midas mask

[prisma latch]

cause i want it to happen After

[wanton lintel]

^6 mult

[prisma latch]

the joker makes all scored moon cards give +10 mult, and then after scoring all played cards become moons

[civic atlas]

the peel has a sorta flavour

[woven crag]

okay

[prisma latch]

if it was the other way round it would essentially just be all cards give +10

but now its. slightly different

[umbral pilot]

I just like how crunchy and slimy it is

[prisma latch]

anyways my problem is solvable with a if statement so

we good

[civic atlas]

i know right

[umbral pilot]

just like the banana

[prisma latch]

i hate bananas

[civic atlas]

its completely different from the inside part

[umbral pilot]

do good sometimes I put the entire thing in my mouth at once

[prisma latch]

theyre mushy and gross and taste disgusting

[civic atlas]

the peel is mad underrated

[umbral pilot]

you should try the peel