#⚙・modding-general
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https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1331462654732144721 has a list of other mods recommended to play with
don't you have 2 jokers
steam level mult joker... 💪
yea ^^
Multiplies mult by your steam level
Earn the amount of games in your steam library as $ after the boss blind
Nuclear bombs aren’t that powerful you’re delusional
my favorite joker is the one that disables the boss blind and kills all cards in hand
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1371152782760870028 is good along with other mods
not enough content standalone imo
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217704157574860810 also has a ton of content
ok now it crashes
Paradox always be forgetting mine smh
he's holding it like a card. make it a joker
balanced perkeo copies on skip .....
finally something to make skipping worth it
maybe they should make that a tag
goes hard with DNA
huge w
fuck i forgot vampire exists
fuck it just make it not remove the enhancement
easy
damn it's kinda hard to come up with suit-restricting effects when wild cards are a thing.
e.g. "gains chips if played hand doesn't contain a spade card" sounds fine until you realise that wild cards suddenly gain a downside
who cares about wild cards
Wild cards having a down side is fine
wild cards are... not good
forget about them until 2026
i'm wild cards' strongest soldier
they already suck though
do you hate them that much
They’re just okay, not good not bad
i wish wild cards got a buff
But if you want to design suit based effects it’s best to ignore them
im so so curious what the revamp's gonna be
ehh. idk. i don't wanna disregard vanilla balance like that in my mod
vanilla wild cards already get debuffed by like 4 blinds
vanilla does not give a single shit about wild cards
but they don't get debuffed by jokers
Wild cards main issue is that the suit reliant effects in vanilla aren’t particularly strong to use in a combination
blind which gets more blndsize by how many jokerforge mods you have in the mods folder
🧛
free win
If there was a bloodstone for each suit wild cards would be very good
anvampire
like, even take blackboard for example. it's an effect that, on a quick glance, is "xmult if your hand is all black suits". but because the wording is explicitly "if all cards are black suits", it takes wild cards' existence into account and doesn't break from them
ok i guess I'm not sleeping
i fixed it
maybe you could do "only nonspades"?
FUCK
bulgar ahh wording
triangle
aikoyori
do i rant about phones
uh if you want
...I guess Wild Cards being debuffed by them suit Boss Blinds also could work with this - yes, this is literally scaling XMult Matador.
ok so it's super hard to find parts for my nothing phone 1 here
does this actually function or is it like matador in the sense it does nothing half the time
How do you detect this? Is it similar to matador hard coded jank?
surely someone has made a mod that makes matador good right
Pretty much the same as Matador, I'd say.
if context.debuffed_hand and not context.blueprint then
SMODS.scale_card(card, {
ref_table = card.ability.extra,
ref_value = "curxmult",
scalar_value = "trigxmult",
})
return nil, true
end
if context.joker_main then
if G.GAME.blind.triggered and not context.blueprint then
SMODS.scale_card(card, {
ref_table = card.ability.extra,
ref_value = "curxmult",
scalar_value = "trigxmult",
})
end
return { xmult = 1+card.ability.extra.curxmult }
end
doubt it
damn
just add more bosses
why do you store your xmult starting from 0
¯_(ツ)_/¯
my mod adds a shitton of bosses idek if they work with matador
that just makes value manip not work
Oh this is true we added all the blind contexts
Value manipulation is a bad mechanic
even my big edition? 🥺
x1.5 values for -1 slot i feel is a good enough usage of value manip
True!
i mostly take issue with repeatable value manip
eremel next smods release eta wen
Once I release my value manipulation API mod, it'll become a good mechanic, ofc
I'd rather not have this somehow end up as X0.1 Mult instead.
increasing joker values every round or certain interval of time i dont like
value manip on editions, enhancements, etc. is somewhat fine with me
do not taint yourself with such things
value manip is allowed if it only affects itself
...hell, I've changed this away from increasing all number values of a random Joker a while ago.
-# Yes, you can copy this.
this is also known as scaling
i love seeing people complain about value manip while i am working on my value manip feature
I think this is definitely a big part of it. Repeatable and unconditional makes value manipulation go from often janky to near impossible to balance
true
Dunno, I can’t decide whether to push a bug fix one or put some features in it
Combine the two and put some bugs in it
especially if the joker itself is not immutable cough oil lamp
Yeah I think changing the design of anyone else’s content is bad personally
My biggest issue with value manipulation still is that people don't use my design guidelines for it, which I have arbitrarily decided are the correct way to value manip
especially since value manip tends to be multiplicative
so repeated 1.5x joker values makes a normally +Mult joker go exponential
dont ask why it was mario its the only one i have
ok well big is one of my oldest features im not gettnig rid of it now
I think even without this, if xmult jokers aren't designed knowing that they can be value manip'd, they can often become really imbalanced
...oh, right, I also did add the SMODS.showman hook for him.
i'm fucking impressed with myself for managing this ngl
even if it's not fully working yet
so many options to choose from
man
nil is my favorite hand :(
cass:
My plan for the #1406740128231194644 value manipulation stuff is to include design rules to remain consistent, and also to have compatibility always be opt-in
This still depends on actual processes... so does Firefox...
i use firefox :(
diminishing in what way
maybe its logarithm
20% less per process.
One of my biggest issues with the indiscriminate way value Manip is done by cryptid is how it can turn jokers into jank with strange interactions, as values get smudged that are core to the design
see: half joker
Very smart to use the blind select screen for that!
bootstraps and bull
we don't even need to go into weird modded stuff thats vanilla
oh my gyatt
That’s precisely my point, it’s like the talisman issue again in that as a developer you have to randomly consider things that you don’t want in your mod just to make it work well in the scene
unchanged 🔥
for hes a jolly good fellow
i might make custom ui for it later
cryptids fridge magnet
how many mods right now?
also for additive value manip: mystic summit
I had similar thoughts with the scaling manipulation stuff, but that system has ended up being entirely opt in and you can opt in to different levels of it
wdym
SMODS.scale_card
OP setup here
? how do you opt into it
i need to make my mod more unique
:>
Yeah. Part of why the Kino value Manip only works on Kino jokers. Also why I'm setting up the API version of that mechanic to be opt-in only. Also, hopefully, if I can manage to convince people to use that one instead of Cryptlib, it'll make people using value Manip in their mods also make sure their jokers are designed around its effects
You choose whether you use it or not
Discounting the items I've tagged as poweritem ("Mainline" toggle) & jokeitem ("Joke" toggle), this is what I am left with.
probably gonna just allow both in my mod even if it's a lil annoying
but your mod already is unique
If all is enabled, then it's fully shown.
-# No need to restart game, either.
what deems a mod as unique
is mine unique
isnt it more opt-out or does it default to blocks scaling manip
What I do for Kino is that I have a converter that turns Kino value Manip into cryptid value Manip when relevant, and the other way around. Means cryptid stuff doesn't ruin (the value of) my jokers, but I also get to interact with that system
features sufficiently different from other mods
Number of movies referenced
ahh i see i see
is mine unique
yeah steam level is unique enough
oke-
All my mods is unique 
dont you have alchemy
alchemy cards will be unique but theyre not gonna be in 1.0.0 cause theyre a lot of work
-# I'm basically the ||sO rEtRo|| Windows person here, lmao... and in a bunch of other servers too.
i’m gonna make a cool little tutorial series out of boredom
how didnt i trigger overshoot 😭
youre not at e12
ah
my mod has a feature where retrigger jokers show a max number of retriggers whenever any mod is present that is capable of doing value manips, and i often clamp joker values
wait holy shit peak
thank youu
deam too fast, i will not read it.
good luck with your proyect
IS THAT THE DARK FOUNTAIN
Yeah, that seems reasonable. I've got a bunch of idiosyncracies for value Manip as well
Goal of me making an API for it would be to allow people to set stuff up using their own idiosyncracies, so that you're not stuck with Cryptid's awful design for value manip
no way
what are your design guidelines for value manip
I personally clamp retriggers as well, and exclude detrimental values, as well as stacked values from being manipulated. That's in part because the value Manip is always temporary or conditional, of course, so you can use a short burst of power on a chips stacking joker to make it stack quicker
i also generally clamp things like card copies
Only thing I think I've been annoyingly inconsistent in is how I interact with xmult. Part of the issue with value Manip, honestly, is that xmult's base value is 1, so any joker with smaller increments gets a very disproportional power boost. I think for a lot of stuff, I basically exclude the base 1, and then go from there, but I think I'm not properly consistent in that
what are your thoughts on jokers having a max times of value manipulation?
like they get locked after 5 changes of stats?
Limits the ways you can implement effects, but within that context it seems fine
i also have jokers that would get crazy with value manips
namely some with exponentials for similar reasons to xmult
-# The Rosen...
need... to... stand... out.... more....
Yeah, I would personally argue they should exclude the base 1.0 value, but I think it's also confusing for players if 2x values on a joker with X2 mult has it turn into X3, haha
I've been thinking about a way to balance that for a while now, because I really love the idea of being able to improve Jokers in unconventional ways.
although it is true that sometimes it is already stupid/boring
yea
you stand out more than any other mod i can think of
Aiko has actual gimmicks, I have theme.
I dunno if you played the most recent version or not
But we made sure there's nothing in the game that is objectively stronger than a base game joker, and that it doesn't powercreep anything
You can feel free to disagree though
double scale is one of my favorite cryptid jokers conceptually but it's incredibly overpowered
idk, i played the release and it was very fun
Core issue is that Balatro's very much not designed with a mechanic like that in mind, honestly. Means you need to very consciously design around it for it to make sense as a mechanic
naneinf moment
yea its a pretty good mechanic, but it stupid in a normal run :c
How math and letter mechanics do not stand out already???
giving the player a small power outlier as a treat can work though
Or Klondike???
not too strong but like perkeo at best
That usually threatens crossplay too.
Not all developers think about their use in the same way.
value manipulation already exists it's called joker duplication and it's broken as hellllll 
I think in Kino, reasonably, you tend to be able to give a joker like a 200% power boost. Though if you maximize for it I think you can end up with 800%, but that's not going to happen in most runs, luckily. But 200% is insanely strong but also a lot more manageable than what cryptid does with values, haha
ima go crappily patch in a fix for fools gambit crashing when i tried to use "the fool?"
xnaneinf
so the true vanilla was without blueprint and ankh all along?!?!?!?!?
Yeah, but that's why my approach to it is to not make value Manip apply generically, hahaha. Saves the hassle
HELP HOW DO I WIN
how do you get -nan
Though Bunco had done something similiar with the Copper cards in terms of extra scoring of cards... I guess I do have the additional scoring of my own as a gimmick, I suppose.
someone should make a mod that adds mechanics like that to be used like a base.
and that give me goods ideas 
Not even -naneinf, just -nan
naneinfxnaneinf
ive got a fucked up op build
you fucked up indeed lol
you dont even have teseract, wtf you do
try it again
Blockbuster: Value Manipulation is coming somewhere this year, trust
i would show but this boss hides jokers
After I finish spellcasting at least
im just gonna do win blind in debugplusplus it aint worth it
why arent my lovely patches applying
I hope you don't trigger something like cryptid 2 type shit
i think tesseract its from mayhem i dont remember
also hoping this joker doesn't end up sucking
tesseract is an entropy joker
ty
i did pair on two aces
seems fun
why you have 3 astros
cause funny
and also because i managed to get three somehow
naneinfxnaneinf lmfaoo
tesseract is from entropy but also it doesnt do anything (it multiplies chips and mult by i and -i respectively, and i*-i = 1 so nothing changes)
lets you have negative score, right?
did you read the message
honestly the big thing is this feels like it incentivizes you to sell it later and i'd feel really bad about that since it's meant to be one of my ocs and all
I'm going to outdo myself
nvm i understand now
should maybe also give +1 joker slot to itself?
and then it gets EVEN bigger to the point it doesnt even show the values anymore and then boom -nan score
yea thought about it
also probably gonna make it unable to dupe legendary+ jokers
Huh
i will add more crazy but somewhat balanced mechanics
history mechanics
im adding linear algebra to balatro
Aikoyori porting entire school course to balatro
I love vectorial spaces can you add them
I doubt it'll become that popular, but also, setting up explicitly with the goal of it becoming minimally intrusive if you don't want to opt in
/ref
sorry what opt means?
@main path can we add linear algebra to balatro
matrices in math mode 👀
My mod will require person to learn terminology and mechanics of every gacha game I add
new letter deck blind where the win condition is "find x"
calculus in balatro when
i was planning on adding sorta factorials
take the derivative of how a joker scales
this is probably just a constant actually thats not a good joker
take the integral
I hate Calculus
thats just an exponent
Choose to be compatible, in this case
oh come the fuck on lua how does if card and card.ability and card.ability.extra and card.ability.extra.hodge_big_ignore then how the fuck do you find a way to still get an index error out of that.
ok fine. ill check if its a table.
fun
apparently you need me to do that.
new jokers that scale in weird ways
yeah you need to check if card.ability.extra is a table
learned this the hard way
tree joker
some vanilla jokers have extra as a non-table value
and other vanilla cards
of course they do
mm makes sense
sounds like a good tool anyway
yk i think more jokers should use sin
if card and type(card) == "table" and card.is and type(card.is) == "function" and card:is(Card) and card.ability and type(card.ability) == "table" and card.ability.extra and type(card.ability.extra) == "table" and card.ability.extra.hodge_big_ignore then clearly
Limbus company sin system
the math one not biblical
Gives xmult based on joker sins
do you need to check if they exist then
why exactly do we use .extra btw? vanilla just holds everything in ability itself from what i've seen
😭
finally a way to make wrathful, lusty, greedy, and the other one useful
ability is used for storing other values
in old balatro modding extra was the only field that serialized
Seven thousand sin jokers
ex: crimson heart things
interesting
because the values you use in your jokers arent in vanilla bslatro
wait theyre not?
i see. i assumed balatro itself serialised everything in ability
just sounds more convenient than having to manually make a value saveable each time you make a new kind of joker
ok i think jumbo deck works properly now. the deck that value manips Everything. im sure everyone in this chat has very good opinions on this
mmmmm no, you created them
waow
make it value manip everything by x0
:<
holy shit Big NFT is omega gamba
x3 sell value on blind select
1/10 chance to lose all sell value on card scored
btw does that mean that now you can avoid using .extra and just keep things in ability itself?
died immediately because i had 6 cards in hand and no scoring jokers
what happened?
bad practice now
How balanced do you think this effect is for an Uncommon/Rare?
+1 Hand Size for each Flush of a unique suit played this ante
It is scaling hand size, but it has a hard cap of +4 and resets every ante, so I think it's relatively balanced
If I play a flush of wild cards do I get +4 handsize
i think rare and remove the cap
mmmm uncommon
i mean it doesnt have a hard cap of +4
oh awit i misread
this is modded
the cap does not exist
the cap is how many suits there are
yeah im dumb
how does this interact with wild cards and smeared
im pretty sure my entire computer has schizophrenia
because without fail, every single attempt to try to refer a mod id gets defenestrated
nuclear throne?
what does that mean
nuclear throne its a roguelike game
and tbh the font is pretty similar
we need a mod that adds the ut battle system to the game and you have to fight 3 napstablooks everytime you want to discard or play a hand.. at 1 max hp
if you lose, the opposite happens, if you wanted to discard you play the hand, if youw anted to play the hand it gets discarded
no it's rabbit hole
yeah i think it's fine. i'd personally put it as an uncommon.
juggler is +1 hand size as a common, so we can think of +1 as a baseline for hand size jokers.
flush builds usually pivot to one suit, so for an endgame build, this'd still be +1, but the closer it is to early game, the more it goes to up to +4.
whats that
Ordinal Collapsing Functions
the orthodox christian fellowship 🔥
oh yeah ex wife is going to erase christianity in a few months
gotta prep
only cats in the function
AsRef<Path>
emmylua_ls is really cool
cargo install emmylua_ls
cargo install emmylua_doc_cli
cargo install emmylua_check
i think i need to balance my mod
Okay I thought i found the code to change the pre-existing stakes, but i legit can't
hello, is there a discord or a community for multiplayer balatro?
yes. idk where tho
if anyone knows where let me know
download yorick
stackeable jokers
tromp
like overflow but for jonklers ig
damn..........
unfortunatly we have that
where
???????
i need the download this will save lives
give me the link gooner
excuse me?
uh oh
hehehehe
i know what you are
search for it and wast time 
you are a [let's pretend i say a pretty bad word that is related to clown here]
joker?
look at this code
insane
when steamodded had like 5 features
sorry but idk how to read, explain in terraria terms
terraria 1.0
oh
what am I looking at
a Lua language server written in rust
hype
there is also a cargo for lua, written in
you guessed it, rust!
the (beta) registry is in elixir tho
yorick is so fucking good
Copium
Rick Sanchez: burp what's up
mmmmm
my dad started a fundraiser for my health stuff and some anonymous guy donated $67 😭
That’s great
6 7 joke
No idea
(tho it wasnt a joke i jus found it funny
67?
I hope you feel better soon eddy robs
I am old explain 67 in balatro joker modded terms
#1407865124454273054 if you want more qol
vanilla balatro playing card terms
3X is the mult of cavendish
67 is the height of lebron
vanilia
I still don’t get the funny part
67 is funny?
when I was a youngester we had minecraft songs, 67 seems low effort
me neither
when did 67 become funny
When i was young we had top 50 funny videos compilation on YouTube
pretty stupid shitpost, search scp 67
"6 7" is lyrics used in a song by skrilla. it was picked up on tiktok, used in edits of basketball players and retroactively applying the meaning of "very tall" (i.e. 6 foot 7 inches). then the brainrot machine rolled in and regurgitated it for us to enjoy like baby birds
how old are you lol
okay so it's not actually funny
Old enough
anime profile? He/him? He old
67 would be funny if it was 2 more. just saying....
correct 
Add dev to this
goddamn
genshin impact player, cant be that old
destruction
genshin player? i vomit
I play when i have free time
Work is killing me
and i dont play when i have free time
:-(
he work? he old!
because genshin 🤮
maybe learn rust
I am
maybe learn rust
maybe learn rust
man is rust real life because old
maybe learn rust
I am learning rust
maybe learn rust
Along with ui/ux design
maybe learn zig
my bike learning rust rn
maybe learn nim
ok write a hello world in rust and call it in lua
maybe learn zig
be a ziger
6 7 haunts my french class (they keep saying six sept)
maybe learn rust
maybe learn rust
if you learn rust you can become a lovely contributor
if you learn rust I'll deny your PRs for free
metherul can you rewrite lovely in haskell thanks
you can be a lovely contributor without knowing rust just remove a bunch of code and have it work out
i am legally forced to learn lua bc my old name was lunaris
i need to make the joke
why not learn rust
can you rewrite lovely in go
lunaris palworld no way
why Lua when rust exists
que?
name 3 reasons why learning rust its a good idea
so
they should rewrite the rust compiler in haskell
theres no reasons to learn rust you should not learn anything actually stop learning things
maybe don't learn javascript
Someone took philosophy classes
who need javascript when attempted to compare number with table
why?
Polaris
JavaScript is cool
nah
i see ruby's theme has hints of the freedom motif
It’s very uncomfortable
JavaScript is just bloated lua
is probably the next language i learn in UNI.
im on php right now
PHP?
Good old php
java is okay. it has some quirks but it's usable
sorry
php
Php > Java
The corposlave pipeline!
php
hype
yea the printer language
maybe learn php
have we rewritten php in rust yet
i know very basic html
maybe learn p- unbelievable 🐌
maybe learn mojo
xd
wust uwu
average rust developer
Worse, they get you learn Skibidi Toilet!
learn gulf of mexico
so is drinking water but I'm not gonna do that nuh uh damn liberals making me want to drink water and love my son for who he is
*gulf of america
according to some people
gulf of finland
okay but printing stuff in brainfuck is easy since you can just count
i like seltzer over soda
proof?
true
ask those ppl
im not really a fan of golf
i do its hell here
forces you to eat 22 golf balls
oh youre from europe ?
other places exist
venussy
the two countries america and europe
and finland
yea but we are talking in english so its always my second option
nah, im a guy who live in a communist country that isnt china
what about Australia
dont believe in it tho
nordic
oh you know english? name every word.
every word
australia is a pyramid scheme
That's where eldritch creatures come from, what happens with that?
damn. irrefutable
okay I'll start. John
that's the words name
the word was table
no i live in rust country
ah Cuba gotcha
john table, the inventor of table ipairs, unpack and all others
slay
drat you've figured me out
Scooby Doobyland
i am american but like apparently my family dates back to poland and theres the italian flag on this thing my uncle made??? i just call myself the nationality soup because i don't fucking know
garb
jsjjs the same thing happend to me
you, just like me, are American soup
realistically all americans date back to europe or elsewhere so id just call urself american if u were born there
life is soup and i am fork
you can and probably should
yeah i just say im american i really dont fucking care to explain
yeah I tried the whole "but my family is Italian" thing with one of my finish friends and he told me to hush
I think everyone dates back to europe or elsewhere
he's like "you're American, stfu"
omg hi ethan
if you go back far enough we are all from earth
meet any good fins recently
or some other planet 
usa is relatively new compared to other countries is what im saying
🤷
hey im just kidding
ohhh okay. the only mod i used as coding reference was vanillaremade, and it uses extra for everything, so 😭
it's fine if you use extra it's just unnecessary and adds like a tiny smidge of overhead
wait we can just type card.ability.[variable] now?
iamfree
if you dont know what youre doing you might step over some already defined values
Thanks to Aure, I got an easy way to get my stakes changed for Parallel Update
okay but then your variable could be like overridden by something else since usually other stored effects go directly in ability
just dont use an existing key
and also some specific values outside extra get processed automatically
name your variables stuff like "fuckshit" smh my head
if another mod is overriding values on your own joker then the other mod is almost definitely doing something wrong
ok
i mean you should use extra probably but like
idk im still using extra because i feel like it
thats not really gonna happen ever if you just dont use the automatically processed keys
also because vanillaremade and smods docs told me to do extra when i started modding so i cant go back now
the problem imo is that at least for vremade a lot of people will use ability.mult for example
I suppose it’s technically an opt in then opt out, but you can just not use scale card at all and nothing will break
-# I have been out sorry for replying two hours late 🙃
i might still use extra simply bc using card.ability.extra.[whatever it does] just feels intuitive
wait why would it need to clarify to others im not making some framework mod
you're making a framework mod??
cool
Lyre's making a framework mod?
balatro fans when reading:
98
i think what i'll do is either prefix my configurable values with my mod prefix, or rename my extra to my mod's name
anyways tell me about your framework mod
I swear. 98 is gonna be the 67 and 69 of balatro
idk factorials and other functions n shit???
You should make it so I can multiply the concepts of addition together
yessss lambda calculus in balatro :3
oh i think the other problem is that the values will probably be kept if you set_ability the card but im not sure
I needed help making a fucking for loop just now 😭
absolutely
bro nice, exciting. add me to your credits
they forced me to run sevens 😭
Whats stopping you
The fact I've stopped for over a week, the mod that gave me tons of motivation now is done, and I don't know what to do
Ah damn. Time to sit back, stew in silksong, and then get back to it with some kind of palette cleansing cryptposting mod, before rejuicing yourself for the Christmas DLC of ortalab?
I remember there’s definitely something that’s wonky with putting them in the base ability table
what christmas DLC?
what???
I just don’t remember what
eremel, why wasn't i told about a christmas DLC for ortalab lol
rename chips and mult to jolly and spirit
just ignore me, I'm tired and head hurt and I'm being intentionally irritating
Photograph redraw: An embarrassing picture of Kopi at the Christmas Party
good advice
oh dw its fine
Christmas dlc but its release on halloween
pretty normal to reel that way after a big project wraps up
Nightmare before christmas core
I don't play holoknight or however it's spelled though
i forgot to mention that
anyway here are some function examples if you can read them
so no silkso--- oh my goodness
Its fine, neither do i. I solely consume videos of it
holoknight (+10 Mult when scored)
when you adding lowercase numbers, lyre?
Damn youre giving me flashbacks to high school and university math courses
these are all custom functions
:3
Holoknight
Uncommon
Holographic Jokers give +10 Mult
also ignore 43 mil times 81 i was calculating 3^20
Huh
balaatro
balaatro
Fiyah
i encountered the most weird random bug just now. paya additions couldn't load some card art unless aikoyori's shenanigans was enabled either that or it was just a total coincidence
baltro
if you have questions please ask i am aware this looks like insanity
Bal|tro
could be worse. could be balþtro
So what does it integrate to?
what
Balaßrtro
Get me the antiderivative, stat
:Þ
thanks shaders
e
Btw with this update to Parallel, there's a mini-theme: Prediction
Prediction is just what it is, other than some custom ideas for the mostpart, i wanna use what Thunk has said they wanted to do as a base again.
Like obviously adding 2 new suits to the game (which I think may be like... get a new suit from somewhere and it'll start to appear more) is not a prediction, that's just something I wanted to add since it was an old suggestion of mine. However, Bringing back some old ideas like "Homework Eating Dog" and others like a Lime Joker, Hotsauce Joker, the matador rework, etc... Those are that mini-theme
now apply an edition other than foil to it
Holy
you 🫵
brawl mod enjoyer spotted
mitosis
hell.
At me in the channel!
hi dry bones!
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yeah. i was even once working on a brawl mod to impliment the three mages from kirby but then i lost the files when i swapped to linux and brawlcrate at the time didn't work stable on linux. not sure about now
(it still does not as far as i know)
I can try?
why the fuck is there a scrabble r in my lego bin
but yeah. anyways back to ball atro for me
Ballsacktro
balatro if it was awesome
i loooove when libresprite crashes when i try to export as spritesheet for no fucking reason
@fathom gust Joker idea
GOD
...is that good?
i actually had that.
oh wait its because im trying to export by tag
its a nice sparkling water so it's not for everyone, but it smells nice.
actually tho you should probably check if the shader is removed by holo, poly or negative
yummy
i love drinking gender
if i drink it do i just gain a random set of pronouns
No, no, C×M^^^pronouns
yo peak synergy
this fool needs to defeat them in combat
We've gotta get tutti frutti with it
i dont think this is equality
should i be worried
why is he not jolly
i took his christmas joy
you should be worried you're playing cryptid
Jimbo when he asks how naughty you want him to act
was this meant to be on nxkoo
morefluff colour cards be like
Gives me hotpot vibes
its almost like the emoji is from hotpot
jumbo deck vs...
bsod discord aintnoway
there was no need to punish yourself so much
Light mode supreme
i could but i dont feel like it
i mean its readable
No it's not
i got lazy
now your discord looks like a balatro crash 👍
true
yea but you will get blind
perfect
i dont even have any mult im doomed
Oops! The game crashed: chat is this balanced
pick your side. jumbo or jimbo
jimb
will it happen Soon, perhaps?
jimbo
the evil has been fed
why imbo
can we get deck that gives + mult
no thats +4 mult
it is one letter less than jimbo
i meant + mult
tf does that mean
follow some keys
it adds to your mult obviously
no
all score halved
+4 hands
smh
i have an idea for a deck now
thats actually kinda cool
i will not share it
but its also kust kinda plasma but with a different upside
nomoremult if it was better
thank you madeline, now im free to get through the antes.
plasma deck if it was epic
what
thanks i came up with it on the spot
i really cannot stop bullying my own ocs huh
now
i already spray you with water
i might try altering the halved score to make it distinct from plasma's double requirement
its actually isopoplyl alcohol
why am i already in ante 5
is that the dark fountain
ok really what is ur background mod lol
would "lose 1% of blind requirement every second" be a good downside for a limbo deck or nah
try it
up to a certain maximum maybe
omg is this an OverWhelming reference
what's the upside
i mean what no
wait wdym blind requirement
take a WILD guess on which character gets this treatment
its actually a 900n1 gamblepack consumeable's result.
do u mean blind score?
not sure
lose 0.01 base blind requirement every second maybe
so it's not stronger on the wall and violet vessel
Alright, expect a small wall of text, but i wanna see what changes you like/dislike here
and not weaker on the needle
- Black Deck [1/3 Changes: Change -1 Hand to -1 Discard thanks to new stakes, Start the Run with a Joker (the +4 Mult one), or Start the run with Empress]
- Anaglyph Deck [1/2 Changes: Free Double Tag at Start of Game or keep as is with the new tags changes.
- Uncommon, Rare, Negative, Foil, Holographic, & Polychrome tags will now work like Top-Up with one of each and no stickers. [Debating whether or not to keep Negative tag as is to keep from being too good, dunno]
- Perishables once debuffed are negative? (Might be too broken, maybe with 0 sell value)
- Magic Trick - Cards spawn with enhancements
- Illusion - Cards spawn with Editions and seals (if not broken)
- Loyalty Card: 6 Hands -> 4 Hands
- Superposition: Generates a Fool instead of Random Tarot Card
- Splash: Played cards are always scored (debuffs are removed when played)
- Erosion: Starts at +4 Mult instead of +0 Mult.
- Fortune Teller: $6 -> $5
- Ceremonial Dagger: Either Common and Cheaper or... 0.05x per $ sell value but uncommon still.
- Flower Pot: Instead of one of each suit, it's just containing a wild card.
- Satellite: Gives Half your highest leveled Hand (rounded down)?
- Bootstraps: Unsure... I think it may need it
- Delayed Gratification: each remaining discard gives 1 dollar at end of round. Earn 2 dollars per discard if no discard were used this round
- Baron: Everything's the same but uncommon?
- Mime: Changed to Rare
the needle is brittle i can just snap it
starku?
damn just had a real good idea then realised its just a togas stuff joker
x0.5 blind size, score reset before each hand
yeah, i wasn't 100% a fan of that idea but i wanted to see if it was a me problem or an actual threat
so everything is the needle
i guess yeah
maybe just half the score instead
i was forced to skip into twerknite to avoid cookie debuffs
This is effectively just X2 Mult but you have to win in 1 hand
Where's Straight Joker
i prefer the one that increases thte blind requrement and number of hands
yahimod?
its technically the same output it just feels waaaay slower
threat of decking out
yep.
black and anaglyph are good, probably better to start with Joker and -1 discard instead of hand
i like the joker tag changes
perishables becoming negative when debuffed could be fun (without the sell value), gives you a reason to use them like eternal and rental
magic trick needed that buff for sure
illusion is also good
loyalty card is still kinda mid but it's better
superposition change i dislike (although i dislike it in general as a common. maybe as an uncommon to make the fool?)
splash buff is fun i like it, but does shut down a good bit of bosses. maybe always scored as in it only bypasses the debuff once per card (no retriggers)
erosion is fine as is doesnt need it
dagger is fine as is doesnt need it
flower pot buff would be good but maybe too strong now? idk
satellite kinda is removing the reason to use other planets which was the whole point of it
bootstraps feels fine as is. maybe a small buff?
delayed grat change i like
baron and mime are both good changes
that too
have i shared my reassurance bucket idea here yet
Okay let me write down this
rental still sucks yeah
hey -15 dollars, rental is cheaper
So you want BOTH the joker and the -1 discard or just one/the other?
ok
if i had to pick one i'd say the joker
yk what would be really really really nice
ok what if
the rental stopped charging after draining x money
x being double the buy value
Not to keep it, but if you take a rental joker and sell it before the round ends, it's effectively a free 1-round Joker
would be nice but maybe ruins the point of rental
i wana joker too /j
Utopia world gif
Any tips on designing Common Jokers? I have plenty of Uncommon and Rare ideas but it's hard to think of interesting yet balanced Commons
lol
is this not useless outside of gold stake
I have a Joker that deletes rental stickers from all jokers, at the cost of $3 per sticker removed
It only spawns in gold stake or when you somehow get a rental joker outside of it
commons do 1 thing
it is often simple and rarely allows for SYNERGY
in_pool
look at the sinful jokers or the "if hand contains a X" jokers
perfect example, gros micheal or hanging chad
i yearn for the sweep release of death
i love complexity based rarities but what do you mean rarely allows for synergy
that's the whole point of balatro
commons have a wide range of synergies but are weak
this is just true of society let me buy my stuff instead of buying licenses PLEASE
im stuck on ante 8, video poker is stalking me, and i only have +mult
bad choice of words but commons are simpler than other rarities
What about cheaper Fortune Teller btw
And very rarely has Xmult
who cares enough about fortune teller for this to matter
me.
Should I give it the Start of +4 Mult then with the cheaper amount?
it shouldnt start with +4
unless it doesnt come prescaled
because how do you word that
even then it shouldnt start with +4
+1 Mult per Tarot card used this run
(Currently +4)
Similarly to cards like Old Square
uncommons are a bit more complex
they fuck around and find out even
some of them only exist to synergise with other jokers, like Paredolia, Oops! All 6s and Mime
i dont like scaling jokers that do something immediately without you doing something else beforehand
rares do whatever the fuck they want ngl
So give it $5 instead or nah?
obelisk:
how is that not run defining
and then the game gave me chelsea.. but i cant afford anyway because i had to reroll
Cubed Joker
+1.1^3 mult, increase base by 0.1 if hand played is exactly 3 3s
oh
legendaries are in sort of a weird spot
because they cant be too run defining because of how late you usually get them
the ante 1 spectral pack:
but you don't want to just make them unconditional anything
Ok here we are
chicot can be great for a run since you can just build anything without needing to gaf about bosses
This is what it looks like rn
I didn't get any legendaries for a really long time when I started playing, and eventually I got Triboulet as my first ever legendary
||...on Abandoned Deck||
baron uncommon and mime rare have to go together though
Of course
they cant be both uncommon or both rare
has anyone figured out the method of how to change/mod the ingame background
trance?
get to strengthing
buff fibonaci (please)
i think so
How?
fibbonacci is good as is
+8.01 mult
okay
dagger is REALLY bad currently so it definitely needs SOME change
black deck starting with jimbo is also funny, i like it
I LONG FOR THE SWEET RELEASE OF RUNNING OUT OF HANDS
are these good legendaries. i have no clue what balance is when it comes to legendaries
it should get a buff. it doesnt need it but i like it and it deserves everything in the world
here take this knife
Hold on, why can't I add new reactions to messages?
you need a role
what is the slime edition
go get any role from channels & roles
random xmult from like x0.2 to x3
also what does best hand of run mean
SLIME??
how common is it
:D
THE ONLY REASON WHY I HAVENT LOST WAS BECAUSE OF MADELINE KEEPING EMPIRE STRIKES BACK ALIVE.
GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD
Thank you! :)
deranged sentence out of context
i do. not remember
and i still survived.
Mind you, Parallel Update already has 15 new jokers and I'm gonna add 30 more alongside the balances
i dislike v2
utlra kil
feels like better chicot
like. if it scores more chips than any previous hand in your run
ultra krill
lazy joker or west side story.
wait its joke nvm
snowball effect
also can you get moon suit any other way
lazy is profbably 1.22x mult and $1
set blind size to 1
disable boss effects, sets chips and mult to 1.1e150
I do think with the new Pelter hand in 1.A, it does give cards like Cloud 9 a use (because pelters require 9s in played hand)
thats a theater production not a movie right
anybody using fennel to make balala mods?
yes
how
and west side gives me 100 chips or 20 mult for spades/clubs and hearts/diamonds respectively
fennel?
which one do i pick up.
i just decided i didnt want to mess with legendaries and added a rarity that can appear in the shop i design the same way as legendaries
Hope you like video poker next!
lazy
yeah it's a programming language that compiles to lua
