this event will break the game
#⚙・modding-general
shy nebula
sterile hornet
this means nothing to me but ill choose to think the green cat is glorp
shy nebula
this means nothing to me but ill choose to think the green cat is glorp
catgirl
sterile hornet
its not big enough lol
global is TINY
hard plank
feel free to convince me to play arknights
shy nebula
its not big enough lol
global is TINY
umbral pilot
is that from umamunasua
shy nebula
is that from umamunasua
yes
umbral pilot
cool
worn dagger
What’s wrong
shy nebula
she is from the umamusume x ave mujica collab
woven crag
glorp like from starspace 🤯
sterile hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fZnlljoor4
here look since i mentioned it
i can do the thing too
worn dagger
glorp like from starspace 🤯
Yes
sterile hornet
im a copycat xdx
sterile hornet
she is from the umamusume x ave mujica collab
the peak
fathom gust
i cant tell if solinium is even more scared
shy nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fZnlljoor4
here look since i mentioned it
(oh yeah break the game as in really breaking the 4th wall in the game)
graceful flame
i cant tell if solinium is even more scared
no text styling in the chips and in the mult im unsubscribing
worn dagger
i cant tell if solinium is even more scared
Can I join this mod :333
timid kestrel
6 cards done yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
fathom gust
solo mod
worn dagger
aww man I wanted to be a character
exotic belfry
Portal!
woven crag
i should start adding self inserts to my mod bcs it would be funny
timid kestrel
me and the streamer decided that the jack was gonna be a goober version of their avatar lmao
sterile hornet
(oh yeah break the game as in really breaking the 4th wall in the game)
damn
not what i was expecting
fathom gust
aww man I wanted to be a character
unless you want to throw in your joker design and i'll just credit it
prisma latch
chat im gonna fight the swarm of greater-than-legendary modded rarities with a worse-than-common rarity called ubiquitous that can appear anywhere
timid kestrel
unless you want to throw in your joker design and i'll just credit it
i actually had one, hold on
worn dagger
@fair thistle can I do this?
fathom gust
chat im gonna fight the swarm of greater-than-legendary modded rarities with a w...
even in spectral packs
hard plank
prisma latch
maybe not in spectral packs
shy nebula
damn
not what i was expecting
like the game ui is going to be messed up
and all of the game system turns against you
timid kestrel
unless you want to throw in your joker design and i'll just credit it
okay so i cant do the full image but i got two jokers
trans joker, turns any male face cards into queens and Double Joker which is just a better hanging chat
hard plank
🏳️⚧️
fathom gust
ironically enough the prefix for my mod is still "ocstobal"
even though it's named isotypical's junkyard now
timid kestrel
get it cause its Kamen Rider Double and one of the Gaia memories is called Joker
sterile hornet
and all of the game system turns against you
the revenge of the ui
hard plank
ok not to be a party killer but trans joker that changes face cards into queen is kinda overdone
idk
timid kestrel
did not know that
timid kestrel
this was part of an nsfw drawing i did for someone and they play balatro
and theyre trans
and i didnt want to just do the regular cards
unborn plover
Uh
worn dagger
Uh
unborn plover
is this even allowed??
hard plank
instead of trans how about estrogen consumable type
timid kestrel
i felt like doing jokers :v
sterile hornet
and all of the game system turns against you
i would repay the debts and shill reverse 1999 but i dont have the big balls
hard plank
gappie send paypal
timid kestrel
but that would be cool i guess? idk
umbral pilot
hard plank
gappie send paypal
sorry that was out of nowhere i am sorry
unborn plover
but that would be cool i guess? idk
😐
hard plank
anyway i will be adding the new iphone 17 pro as a joker
unborn plover
Wao
hard plank
i still cannot explain why it looks like this
unborn plover
What does it do
umbral pilot
i still cannot explain why it looks like this
anmongus phone
prisma latch
costs $1000
umbral pilot
What does it do
phone
fathom gust
What does it do
costs a shit ton just for like
+7 mult or something
hard plank
X
umbral pilot
np plumpkin
worn dagger
fathom gust
https://x.com/TailosiveTech/status/1965484466102829070
1 SPEAKER AND IT'S FUCKING MONO???
timid kestrel
anyway i will be adding the new iphone 17 pro as a joker
It does nothing
YOU LOSE
GOOD DAY SIR!
ivory sinew
ok not to be a party killer but trans joker that changes face cards into queen i...
Nah you right
unborn plover
I got the better version:
fathom gust
on it
hard plank
if you repost that i get to repost this too
fathom gust
blep
unborn plover
if you repost that i get to repost this too
woven crag
freedom deltarune 🤯 🤯
trail berry
this was part of an nsfw drawing i did for someone and they play balatro
i just got here and this is the first message i see
wtf i just sat down
hard plank
<:egg:1185774071150018580>
you haven't even played it
unborn plover
you haven't even played it
Just made this for shits and giggles
trail berry
<:egg:1185774071150018580>
revorce
hard plank
not allowed until you actually played it smh
trail berry
all in jest is probably my favorite balatro mod
ivory sinew
Imagine not playing it
unborn plover
not allowed until you actually played it smh
😔
tidal terrace
I like the new logo
trail berry
god damn nevernamed's art is so FUCKING PEAK
tidal terrace
Much bueno
tidal terrace
god damn nevernamed's art is so FUCKING PEAK
Who
hard plank
the old one was not properly rendered because i needed one fast lol
tidal terrace
Oh yeah
All in jest art guy went all in
Honestly
Aikoyori work on love2d
It’s fun
hard plank
the evil
tidal terrace
Evil?
trail berry
what's your guys' favorite balatro mod
tidal terrace
Fanfare
hard plank
what's your guys' favorite balatro mod
Aikoyori's Shenanigans
tidal terrace
Definitely not biased
trail berry
Aikoyori's Shenanigans
"i dont wanna toot my own horn but"
tidal terrace
Like at all
hard plank
"i dont wanna toot my own horn but"
come on if s gets to do it why can't i
trail berry
wait fanfare is by s
woven crag
what's your guys' favorite balatro mod
my mod (in development)
trail berry
ngl i have never heard of fanfare before now
lost inlet
what's your favorite mod not made by you :trol
trail berry
my mod (in development)
smh bring back stellaris
timid kestrel
wtf i just sat down
this is not my first message in this chat
trail berry
actually you could add some of the good stellaris content
hard plank
ngl i have never heard of fanfare before now
because you don't play other mods than aij (aij is good but a bit busted lmaoooo)
trail berry
because you don't play other mods than aij (aij is good but a bit busted lmaoooo...
i do
i really do
a lot
i barely play aij
woven crag
actually you could add some of the good stellaris content
yeah i am doing that
im just abandoning my old mod because first mod bad
shy nebula
😡
https://github.com/ShaharBand/lua-style-guide
Mod devs should read this
hard plank
https://github.com/ShaharBand/lua-style-guide
Mod devs should read this
balatro players can't read
fathom gust
how much do you wanna bet that i'll have like a thousand more blinds with the "one eye"
shy nebula
balatro players can't read
Veblen
woven crag
hard plank
how much do you wanna bet that i'll have like a thousand more blinds with the "o...
i switch up my blinds because they are too boring
lost inlet
https://github.com/ShaharBand/lua-style-guide
Mod devs should read this
no i use my own hellishly inconsistent conventions
woven crag
who of yall is this
hard plank
imagine actually making your code understandable by anyone else
woven crag
type shit
ember surge
i just read that as " roaring portal" 🥀
trail berry
whats your least favorite balatro mod thats made by you
keen knoll
i just read that as " roaring portal" 🥀
IS THAT THE ROARING KNOGHT
hard plank
astro you don't even code what the fuck
woven crag
whats your least favorite balatro mod thats made by you
stellaris
keen knoll
whate thaf
lean dune
whats your least favorite balatro mod thats made by you
must be smods
normal hollow
whats your least favorite balatro mod thats made by you
vanillaremade
hard plank
it doesn't apply if you don't actually code because you don't actually understand why it's like that
trail berry
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
lost inlet
whats your least favorite balatro mod thats made by you
Matador Fix
normal hollow
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
entropy
lean dune
must be smods
actually it's probably chariot
woven crag
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
paperback
ember surge
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
||waifujokers||
hard plank
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
PTA
woven crag
astro learning how to code tomorrow 🔥🔥🔥
fathom gust
does pseudorandom just
constantly change
trail berry
whats a mod you've like never played but you really like
lunar sluice
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
no more mult
normal hollow
does pseudorandom just
constantly change
what does this mean
lost inlet
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
aikoshen
ember surge
whats a mod you've like never played but you really like
vanila
fathom gust
what does this mean
i tried to uh
do this and now both the boss theme AND burning eyes is playing
lean dune
whats a balatro mod you like but isnt your favorite
black hole
fathom gust
at the same time
woven crag
holy hell thats me
thats actually like not a bad rendition of what my pfp is
pretty cool
trail berry
whats your opinion on cryptid
fathom gust
whats your opinion on cryptid
6.5/10
ember surge
i tried to uh
why did it picked you as soon as i joined balatro
hard plank
keen knoll
i want a joker too /j
woven crag
im not a rock grrrr 3:<
trail berry
hey ruby
vapid swan
Wait are paperback paperclips just stickers
deft ore
Wait are paperback paperclips just stickers
everything’s a sticker
trail berry
you couldve done ANYTHING ELSE
hard plank
trail berry
but you did fucking CHIPS ABSTRACT JOKER
woven crag
but you did fucking CHIPS ABSTRACT JOKER
like half of extra credit is just <vanilla joker> but x
keen knoll
but you did fucking CHIPS ABSTRACT JOKER
i kinda like it
ember surge
"watching numbers go high"
deft ore
its like how all of the utdr jokers are “what if vanilla joker but different”
ember surge
its like how all of the utdr jokers are “what if vanilla joker but different”
what if more jokers
hard plank
woven crag
what if too many jokers
hard plank
who the fuck is localthinker
trail berry
its like how all of the utdr jokers are “what if vanilla joker but different”
stuntman vs flowey
keen knoll
im the jokah baby
deft ore
who the fuck is localthinker
localthunk from the past
woven crag
localthought
deft ore
don’t go too far back or you get localwillthink
hard plank
localwouldvethought
deft ore
RENE DESCARTES?!
keen knoll
localthinking
woven crag
thats actually some pretty solid evidence...
deft ore
in my modding-chat?
keen knoll
RENE DESCARTES?!
TENNA?!
ember surge
6 pages in not enough
woven crag
RENE DESCARTES?!
keen knoll
wat
trail berry
havent seen this one before
grim aspen
Hey, does anyone know of a mod that changes stickers to be more easy to identify at a glance? Red, orange, gold can really be hard to distinguish at times and I just want more clear coloring to them.
clear belfry
Hey guys I have a card idea, it gives you naninf chips and mult every second
woven crag
havent seen this one before
its like some king of stencil
clear belfry
havent seen this one before
That's so ass
deft ore
Hey guys I have a card idea, it gives you naninf chips and mult every second
public execution tomorrow
keen knoll
Hey guys I have a card idea, it gives you naninf chips and mult every second
gives naneinf chipe except when scoring
keen knoll
wanna see something silly
ok
clear belfry
public execution tomorrow
No thanks
unborn plover
Localthunk fans when LocalThinker appears
woven crag
Hey guys I have a card idea, it gives you naninf chips and mult every second
not good enough it should give {1e308}1e308 instead
🔥
clear belfry
not good enough it should give {1e308}1e308 instead
It should give 9e9999999999 instead
keen knoll
busing out the hyperops i see
keen knoll
It should give 9e9999999999 instead
thats astronomically smaller
deft ore
fake numberslopper smh
modest canyon
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE HARDCODED AURINKO COMPAT
clear belfry
Well then it should give one trillion billion morgaglion points
modest canyon
ITS BEEN DEAD FOR AGES
deft ore
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE HARDCODED AURINKO COMPAT
for what
clear belfry
fake numberslopper smh
Numberslop 🤤
keen knoll
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE HARDCODED AURINKO COMPAT
i think other mods can set that they "provide" a certain mod
modest canyon
cryptid apparently? idk????
keen knoll
i think other mods can set that they "provide" a certain mod
so ruby could put that on overflow
keen knoll
there's mod that adds tenna
sweet
woven crag
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE HARDCODED AURINKO COMPAT
because engulf exists
deft ore
there's mod that adds tenna
this better not be tangents
keen knoll
engulf i mean
woven crag
engulf is just aurinko 2
ember surge
it is
trail berry
"+7 mult for each remaining hand" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
woven crag
and it provides aurinko
clear belfry
there's mod that adds tenna
Is there a mod that adds tetanus
trail berry
actually this one isnt that bad
keen knoll
there's mod that adds tenna
noo why the crash
woven crag
"+7 mult for each remaining hand" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
evil fucking banner
ember surge
this better not be tangents
it is judging by how it just doesn't work
unborn plover
there's mod that adds tenna
Technical difficulties
We'll be right back
deft ore
"+7 mult for each remaining hand" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
this one’s creative enough
modest canyon
because engulf exists
well the game wants aurinko and crashes without it :)
keen knoll
engulf is just aurinko 2
-# its kinda funny how all of jens mods are being replaced by rubys lol
ember surge
it is judging by how it just doesn't work
somebody implemented live update of that joker and it broke, niko probably not going to fix that
woven crag
well the game wants aurinko and crashes without it :)
how 😭
modest canyon
we do have engulf installed
deft ore
ruby please don’t suddenly delete all your mods
hard plank
why do people obsess with extremely high number
deft ore
-# its kinda funny how all of jens mods are being replaced by rubys lol
is entropy the new pwx
hard plank
the numbers don't make sense
keen knoll
why do people obsess with extremely high number
number go up
woven crag
no
modest canyon
is entropy the new pwx
ew no
woven crag
is entropy the new pwx
ruby would kill you for this
clear belfry
we do have engulf installed
Where's that character from your profile pic from
modest canyon
entropy is peaker
deft ore
why do people obsess with extremely high number
people should try stopwatches more
keen knoll
is entropy the new pwx
they ARE the only two mods tjat have scaling hyperops that i know of..
deft ore
ruby would kill you for this
she would
modest canyon
Where's that character from your profile pic from
some art we found on the internet
ember surge
why do people obsess with extremely high number
because yes, everyone wants to see big number go up deleting small 300 chips blind
trail berry
"GAINS X0.15 MULT FOR EACH SOLD JOKER" WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
actually this one isnt that bad either
clear belfry
some art we found on the internet
Who's the artist fr
ember surge
"GAINS X0.15 MULT FOR EACH SOLD JOKER" WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
riff-raff suddenly has use
keen knoll
"GAINS X0.15 MULT FOR EACH SOLD JOKER" WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
OH that reminds me of CEO which is one of my favorites
modest canyon
Who's the artist fr
guhhhh let us recall,,,,,
woven crag
"GAINS X0.15 MULT FOR EACH SOLD JOKER" WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
its just eternal flame cryptid
ember surge
guhhhh let us recall,,,,,
oh that is why i found that artwork familiar, is it jooshy
woven crag
which itself is just perma campfire
modest canyon
scwambledeggs?
deft ore
its just eternal flame cryptid
never speak again
keen knoll
OH that reminds me of CEO which is one of my favorites
its uhh every joker gives x1 mult, increase by 0.1 for every 3 jokers sold
clear belfry
scwambledeggs?
alr lemme look it up 🤑
woven crag
never speak again
IM NOT WRONG THOUGH??????
its literally identical
besides numbers
hard plank
obliterating blinds just makes the game boring
ember surge
obliterating blinds just makes the game boring
📉
deft ore
IM NOT WRONG THOUGH??????
cryptid is illegal
trail berry
"+5 CHIPS FOR EACH HAND PLAYED -5 CHIPS FOR EACH DISCARD" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE
keen knoll
obliterating blinds just makes the game boring
ill be honest, i kinda miss straddle a tiny bit
deft ore
"+5 CHIPS FOR EACH HAND PLAYED -5 CHIPS FOR EACH DISCARD" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN ...
Verdant Joker
woven crag
"+5 CHIPS FOR EACH HAND PLAYED -5 CHIPS FOR EACH DISCARD" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN ...
cyan jokr
ember surge
"+5 CHIPS FOR EACH HAND PLAYED -5 CHIPS FOR EACH DISCARD" NOW WHERE HAVE I SEEN ...
what rarity it is
hard plank
just don't play overpowered mods or something
trail berry
i like utdr but a lot of the jokers are just very similar to vanilla
modest canyon
killing cryptid devs!
woven crag
make a github issue
trail berry
yep cryptid has hardcoded aurinko
oh hey i can do that thing in that server
deft ore
i need to make a general “stop doing numberslop”
fathom gust
great start to trying out aikoyori's mod
trail berry
i need to make a general “stop doing numberslop”
astro is gonna get sad though
woven crag
i like utdr but a lot of the jokers are just very similar to vanilla
there being 5 million jokers in the mod feels extremely forced
daring sluice
why are you starting on that deck 😭
hard plank
great start to trying out aikoyori's mod
we don't talk about misprint deck
ember surge
great start to trying out aikoyori's mod
we have true missprint deck,, now we need true unstable deck
woven crag
great start to trying out aikoyori's mod
do not open packs on scuffed misprint deck worst mistake of my life
deft ore
WANTED BIG NUMBERS ANYWAYS FOR A LAUGH? WE HAD SOMETHING FOR THAT: IT WAS CALLED A STOPWATCH
keen knoll
we have true missprint deck,, now we need true unstable deck
thats just uhh cardsleeves double misprint
trail berry
"+6 MULT FOR EACH EMPTY JOKER SLOT"
ember surge
thats just uhh cardsleeves double misprint
you know unstable deck that just random ranks and suits
trail berry
YOU SID THE SAME THING TWICE
deft ore
astro is gonna get sad though
thats what gamesets are for
trail berry
WHAT THE FUCK
deft ore
YOU SID THE SAME THING TWICE
Gee, UTDR mod, how come your dev lets you have THREE joker stencils
trail berry
no its 2
keen knoll
Gee, UTDR mod, how come your dev lets you have THREE joker stencils
SWOON
ember surge
"+6 MULT FOR EACH EMPTY JOKER SLOT"
trail berry
"COPIES THE ABILITIES OF THE JOKERS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT"
HMMMM
WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS
woven crag
I CAN SEE WHY YOU DONT OPEN PACKS
the first time i played this deck i opened a random pack without reading and my game crashed INSTANTLY
trail berry
its like hes in some king of blueprint...
deft ore
"COPIES THE ABILITIES OF THE JOKERS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT"
How many fucking mods add this
prisma latch
yahimod is the only mod to ever add that
deft ore
It doesn’t get better the more we do it
prisma latch
trust
keen knoll
the lord of screens cleaved red by blade
isnt that you
deft ore
at least add like. double blind size as a debuff or something
and make it higher than rare
prisma latch
yahimod made it legendary which is good and fair
keen knoll
oops all blueprint
deft ore
isnt that you
yeah i’m dead tenna now
trail berry
and make it higher than rare
its legendary
delicate dust
Replaces final scores with X0 Mult
keen knoll
then again the calcs are handled by the joker being copied so idk how youd do that unless you like actually modify the other card and reset it after
ember surge
WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS
woven crag
then again the calcs are handled by the joker being copied so idk how youd do th...
paperback has smth like that with forgery so its definitely possible
deft ore
we are NOT doing operator shenanigans
prisma latch
Jarvis, kill this man
keen knoll
paperback has smth like that with forgery so its definitely possible
oh yea forgery thats what i was trying to remember
ember surge
Jarvis, kill this man
with hammers
deft ore
no
keen knoll
chat is this real
trail berry
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
deft ore
chat is this real
no
keen knoll
dam
trail berry
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
individually
prisma latch
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
mm i love worse boredom
keen knoll
oh yea there was one mod that did it pretty cool
ember surge
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
rig that shit
deft ore
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
Oops all 18s goes crazy
keen knoll
broadcast, it copied the nth joker where n increased each hand
it was still a rare which sucked
deft ore
rig that shit
i’m rigging your chance of death
fathom gust
don't click on "sort ranks" while playing letter deck and having cartomancer
worst mistake
woven crag
1 in 5 chance to copy each other Joker
1 in 5 chance to have a 1 in 5 chance to create a common joker when a negative spectral card inside a booster pack is destroyed by an uncommon joker in ante 5
ember surge
i’m rigging your chance of death
prisma latch
chat help. im making jokers that act as joker versions of seals in my mod, such as "Other scored elements of harmony gain +10 chips" becoming "Scored elements of harmony gain +1 mult". but i cant come up with an alternate effect for "see the next 3 elements of harmony in deck"
deft ore
1 in 5 chance to have a 1 in 5 chance to create a common joker when a negative s...
too strong
nerf to 1 in 7
lost inlet
yahimod made it legendary which is good and fair
my mod also makes this legendary
ember surge
1 in 5 chance to have a 1 in 5 chance to create a common joker when a negative s...
"cluserfuck"
lost inlet
(it's my self-insert joker)
keen knoll
all it does is destroy candy jokers? lol
also again my ocs name is sappy
ember surge
same vibes as "when hand is played 1 in 3 hance to game over"
prisma latch
you guys are only giving yourselves one self insert? im giving myself one for every sona i have because funny
lost inlet
i have other oc jokers
deft ore
same vibes as "when hand is played 1 in 3 hance to game over"
x3 mult
die when blind is beaten
keen knoll
you guys are only giving yourselves one self insert? im giving myself one for ev...
i mean i probably will but id habe to come up with effects for em lol
woven crag
you guys are only giving yourselves one self insert? im giving myself one for ev...
five. hundred. self inserts
keen knoll
yea
sappy
woven crag
hell yeah
ember surge
x3 mult
die when blind is beaten
hmmm where i could seen that
lost inlet
behold my peam
buoyant kestrel
so jank bro
deft ore
hmmm where i could seen that
woven crag
so jank bro
what mod is this 😭
buoyant kestrel
what mod is this 😭
UTDR
ember surge
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1385061686200762488 probably
oh yeah
ember surge
no way ISAT REFERENCE
no it's not
keen knoll
nice
keen knoll
no it's not
wh yes it is?
deft ore
no it's not
yes it is
lost inlet
noo youre supposed to obey me
the 7 placeholders:
😭
keen knoll
have u never played it lol
deft ore
isat is peak
buoyant kestrel
its funny because there is also something that adds consumable slots
keen knoll
isat is peak
it is i stopped playing around act 3 tho lol
lost inlet
its funny because there is also something that adds consumable slots
asgore too
buoyant kestrel
its funny because there is also something that adds consumable slots
tricky tony type shit
ember surge
my bad
im starting to see fruits on white screen with no copyright claim music and low quailty as cantaloupe
deft ore
it is i stopped playing around act 3 tho lol
keep going
keen knoll
ye ok do u wamt refs
keen knoll
keep going
yea yea it just gets "where the hell am i supposed to go"y around there
ember surge
deserves legendary
keen knoll
egender y
deft ore
yea yea it just gets "where the hell am i supposed to go"y around there
loop is there for a reason
tidal terrace
keen knoll
loop is there for a reason
oh shoot right-
prisma latch
guys help. petty plese
deft ore
oh shoot right-
can’t believe you could ever forget thrm
hardy brook
What's going on all?
buoyant kestrel
like theres purposefully hiding things (which is also questionable but at least its intended) and theres stuff where you desperately need a github
keen knoll
can’t believe you could ever forget thrm
i mean like i forgot getting help from them lol
keen knoll
What's going on all?
whos all and why do they want stuff on them
hardy brook
whos all and why do they want stuff on them
what?
keen knoll
joke
deft ore
whos all and why do they want stuff on them
theyre carrying the soup
keen knoll
mmmsoup
prisma latch
guys help. petty plese
pease. prety peas. pleas. hep me
buoyant kestrel
for every hidden text on UTDR wiki, one child gets fed into a shredder
deft ore
pease. prety peas. pleas. hep me
with what 😭
prisma latch
im making jokers that act as joker versions of seals in my mod, such as "Other scored elements of harmony gain +10 chips" becoming "Scored elements of harmony gain +1 mult". but i cant come up with an alternate effect for "see the next 3 elements of harmony in deck"
deft ore
for every hidden text on UTDR wiki, one child gets fed into a shredder
BREAKING NEWS: EVERY CHILD ON EARTH DEAD
keen knoll
im making jokers that act as joker versions of seals in my mod, such as "Other s...
what is harmony
deft ore
im making jokers that act as joker versions of seals in my mod, such as "Other s...
elements of harmony?
worn dagger
BREAKING NEWS: EVERY CHILD ON EARTH DEAD
Real
prisma latch
yes theyre seals
deft ore
what that mean
keen knoll
BREAKING NEWS: EVERY CHILD ON EARTH DEAD
nooo now how are we supposed to get the human souls
frozen river
BREAKING NEWS: EVERY CHILD ON EARTH DEAD
Getting this notification without any context is one of the things that happened today
prisma latch
element of loyalty, element of magic, element of honesty, friendship, kindness, laughter, theyre all seals
worn dagger
Hahaha
deft ore
nooo now how are we supposed to get the human souls
create them like wing gaster
worn dagger
The adults idiot
buoyant kestrel
nooo now how are we supposed to get the human souls
you gotta get the human soul extract from the machine
keen knoll
create them like wing gaster
yea sure and get shattered across time and space? no thank you
deft ore
element of loyalty, element of magic, element of honesty, friendship, kindness, ...
elements of harmony are shuffled to the top half of the deck
prisma latch
ohh thats good
keen knoll
The adults idiot
no adult is stupid enough to climb a mountain
-# unless theyre a youtuber
keen knoll
elements of harmony are shuffled to the top half of the deck
ooooh thats sick
prisma latch
no adult is stupid enough to climb a mountain
-# unless theyre a youtuber
madeline celeste
worn dagger
no adult is stupid enough to climb a mountain
-# unless theyre a youtuber
Hikers
keen knoll
madeline celeste
theyre a teen
buoyant kestrel
no adult is stupid enough to climb a mountain
-# unless theyre a youtuber
the seven human youtubers:
prisma latch
elements of harmony are shuffled to the top half of the deck
feels maybe a bit good for an uncommon but yeah sure
worn dagger
Exactly
keen knoll
theyre a teen
actually wait theo- nvm theyre a youtuber
prisma latch
madeline is NOT a teen??
deft ore
does badeline have a separate soul
prisma latch
she mentions having problems with drinking so like. assuming she didnt start drinking underage, shes at least 19
keen knoll
damn
keen knoll
she mentions having problems with drinking so like. assuming she didnt start dri...
*21
woven crag
madeline does drinking? 🤯
keen knoll
also yea what they drink???
woven crag
its not 21 everywhere
deft ore
where is celeste set
buoyant kestrel
does badeline have a separate soul
badeline did but like don't they go away so it doesn't matter??
keen knoll
where is celeste set
celeste mountain
prisma latch
where is celeste set
celeste mountain
woven crag
where is celeste set
canada
deft ore
oh cool
woven crag
celeste 🤯
buoyant kestrel
badeline did but like don't they go away so it doesn't matter??
darkener badeline actually
prisma latch
(scored cards gain +5 chips)
keen knoll
i wanna hike there someday
careful not to run imto an evil version of yourself
deft ore
darkener badeline actually
Madeline is the knight
prisma latch
careful not to run imto an evil version of yourself
nah its fine ill get to talk to my mental health issues and get cool magic hair
keen knoll
Madeline is the knight
so thats why they did midair dashes
deft ore
nah its fine ill get to talk to my mental health issues and get cool magic hair
bring back a couple hundred strawberries
keen knoll
yay
pastel surge
why cant i just tell all my disappointment to square up 😭
i want to go up to my negative emotions and tell them to step in the ring
keen knoll
why cant i just tell all my disappointment to square up 😭
because youre not playing a hand with 4 cards
prisma latch
i was at the celeste official ost concert recently and the gameplay guy kinda sucked, except halfway through chapter 8 suddenly it was the tas run???
buoyant kestrel
nah its fine ill get to talk to my mental health issues and get cool magic hair
deltarune chapter 6 when kris runs into IMAGE_FRIEND and every possible buried trauma is unburied by the mf who caused them
deft ore
i was at the celeste official ost concert recently and the gameplay guy kinda su...
the gameplay guy couldn’t beat that part
keen knoll
i was at the celeste official ost concert recently and the gameplay guy kinda su...
the official one?? also damn that guy sucked so bad they killed hik
woven crag
i was at the celeste official ost concert recently and the gameplay guy kinda su...
they needed the tas because the gameplay has to be finished by the end of the music
deft ore
deltarune chapter 6 when kris runs into IMAGE_FRIEND and every possible buried t...
The poor children!
woven crag
🔥
fiery vapor
i hope i didn't miss anybody
keen knoll
The poor children!
findher.ogg
prisma latch
they needed the tas because the gameplay has to be finished by the end of the mu...
by farewell the gameplay was ending far before the music and they had to keep looping and splicing it
buoyant kestrel
i hope i didn't miss anybody
hell yeah
deft ore
lost where the forest would grow the children followed the pointed tail
keen knoll
by farewell the gameplay was ending far before the music and they had to keep lo...
pfffffttt
blorble
woven crag
mraow
delicate dust
wruff
fiery vapor
i hope i didn't miss anybody
probably won't do anything actually important since in less of an hour got to go to music lessons
did i miss anybody?
prisma latch
chat help this is the 4th time today i've listened to goodnight hypnopomp
buoyant kestrel
lost where the forest would grow the children followed the pointed tail
honest to god i hope we get image_friend as a party member in the weird route
fiery vapor
forgot a space between two woops
prisma latch
honest to god i hope we get image_friend as a party member in the weird route
fire idea
deft ore
honest to god i hope we get image_friend as a party member in the weird route
deeply fucked up. i love it
deft ore
forgot a space between two woops
aikoyori
timid kestrel
2 1/3 of them have been done
tidal terrace
Lancer bro
prisma latch
dont mention it dont say it dont mention it dont say it dont menti
buoyant kestrel
2 1/3 of them have been done
joker
deft ore
friend inside me
keen knoll
honest to god i hope we get image_friend as a party member in the weird route
i hope we get gaster
prisma latch
just realised we never see the jacks of the other suits. there might be 3 other lancers.
fiery vapor
dont mention it dont say it dont mention it dont say it dont menti
don't mention what
timid kestrel
Lancer bro
who else should be the goober?
keen knoll
just realised we never see the jacks of the other suits. there might be 3 other ...
thwyre the exact same but just recolored
deft ore
just realised we never see the jacks of the other suits. there might be 3 other ...
they’re probably locked up
in a goulden son somewhere
novel grotto
Thanks
buoyant kestrel
i hope we get gaster
weird route battle where we seek out gaster and he just beats us to death with his bare hands
keen knoll
who else should be the goober?
matpip
prisma latch
i really hope gaster is rotoscoped. would be so fucking hype
timid kestrel
who?
keen knoll
weird route battle where we seek out gaster and he just beats us to death with h...
HANDS?
tidal terrace
who else should be the goober?
Who are the queen and king
deft ore
what do we think about transfem ralsei
prisma latch
transfem ralsei <3
deft ore
weird route battle where we seek out gaster and he just beats us to death with h...
the man who throws hands
prisma latch
beware the man who throws hands
timid kestrel
Who are the queen and king
queen and Spamton G. Spamton
prisma latch
LMAO
buoyant kestrel
what do we think about transfem ralsei
would be very cool
keen knoll
beware the man who throws hands
now im just imagining him throwing wingding chars as attacks lol
tidal terrace
[hyperlink blocked]
fiery vapor
[citation needed]
prisma latch
really though i do think gaster's introduction being rotoscoped like the ||titan's hand|| would be sick as fuck
woven crag
what do we think about transfem ralsei
interesting but i dont think itll be a thing tbh
deft ore
interesting but i dont think itll be a thing tbh
i believe in it with all my heart but i also believe toby’s a coward
buoyant kestrel
really though i do think gaster's introduction being rotoscoped like the ||titan...
i personally hope for something like that except its more scuffed like FAITH
novel grotto
Why th there's three of them😭
umbral pilot
download debugplus
deft ore
in a better world
deft ore
Why th there's three of them😭
pearto invasion
keen knoll
bye
fiery vapor
honestly i always thought ralsei was like effeminate male but honestly if they are transfem that would be cool too like i don't care that much about a fictional characters identity
deft ore
download debugplus
hi metherul
novel grotto
pearto invasion
Indeed
prisma latch
ralsei says he likes the dress on the mannequin. the mannequin with the sparkly blue dress. the sparkly blue dress that both mettaton and the trans lion wore in undertale.
buoyant kestrel
ralsei says he likes the dress on the mannequin. the mannequin with the sparkly ...
did not know this
ember surge
BREAKING NEWS: EVERY CHILD ON EARTH DEAD
buoyant kestrel
amazing
umbral pilot
amazing
fiery vapor
i think that's everybody
prisma latch
umbral pilot
hi metherul
hey domestic discontent
deft ore
“lost girl” plays in ralsei’s room
prisma latch
ralsei is so transcoded its insane
deft ore
hey domestic discontent
buoyant kestrel
tenna just pissed me off so much and then i just beat his ass
like amazing character in hindsight but at the time i just saw spamton that wasn't funny
prisma latch
"that wasn't funny" fym
umbral pilot
are you talking about silksong
woven crag
no
fiery vapor
they are talking about deltarune
prisma latch
tenna had me cackling from literally his first line of dialogue
deft ore
tenna just pissed me off so much and then i just beat his ass
like amazing chara...
the lord of screens beat the shit out of by jamirror
umbral pilot
oh
lunar sluice
tenna is cool except 50% of covers of its tv time dont mirror the best part which is the intro
so they suck
deft ore
hi ruby
fiery vapor
i think that's everybody
let me know if i forgot you got to get ready for music lessons
hi ruby
lunar sluice
hello
woven crag
hello ruby
worn dagger
Hi guys gals and non binary pals
woven crag
hello crystal (starspace)
worn dagger
How is everyone today
fiery vapor
doing good
worn dagger
Good
fiery vapor
bye yall
deft ore
pretty good
fathom gust
thanks aiko
fiery vapor
ohh i forgot about you @fathom gust i think
uh how do you want to be credited as? is overajhe92e fine
pearl tartan
thanks aiko
I've just entered and see THIS?! XD
fathom gust
OH
fiery vapor
i think that's everybody
@fathom gust its for this want to make sure everyone doesn't go unknown
fathom gust
overajhe92e is fine yeah
upper widget
guys i made balala mod
fiery vapor
👍
prisma latch
can someone more experienced with lua tell me if this would fuck shit up
- loop through G.deck.cards, if card meets a requirement, insert it to table a, otherwise insert it to table b
- move elements from table b to table a until table a's length matches a variable
- shuffle table a and table b separately
- combine table a and b
- set G.deck.cards to the resulting table
dreamy abyss
<@&1133519078540185692> kill this man
prisma latch
thank you mods
gilded tulip
Removed
dreamy abyss
thank
prisma latch
can someone more experienced with lua tell me if this would fuck shit up
- loop ...
hang on i can test this by doing a simpler version with debugplus
fiery vapor
while not fully sure what you can do something like this
consider this like PSEUDO-lua
local tableA = {}
local tableB = {}
for _, card in ipairs(CARDS IN DECK) do
if card == CONDITION then
table.insert(tableA, card)
else
table.insert(tableB, card)
end
end
i wonder what character that music is related to
prisma latch
thanks, though i was more just wondering if the way lua handles tables and the game handles cards would cause any issues here
i know doing certain things to cards can fuck them up
fiery vapor
maybe idk
prisma latch
ok doing eval a = {G.deck.cards[2],G.deck.cards[1]}; G.deck.cards = a seems to have confused the game as to which cards are in the deck, but if i'm not actually changing the cards in the deck im not sure how much issue this poses
fiery vapor
what exactly are you trying to do is this like some sort of qol mod or are you making a joker or blind
prisma latch
im making a joker makes sure certain cards are always in the first half of the deck
fiery vapor
like enchanced cards or non debuffed cards or something
wind turtle
im making a joker makes sure certain cards are always in the first half of the d...
You would hook CardArea:shuffle()
prisma latch
yeah cards with any of a certain list of seals
reef tangle
yall think its gonna destroy first round?
deft ore
it might be better to mess around with the shuffle function
fathom gust
yall think its gonna destroy first round?
nah
deft ore
fuck around
adding to to this is banned
prisma latch
huh
prisma latch
message moderation is weird here
ornate bone
Fuck around and find out
prisma latch
i got timed out for saying a word that can describe both piracy and heavy rain
but thats a little more obvious
ornate bone
heavy rain (2013)
prisma latch
i guess they just immediately assume youre trying to pirate the game
pirate isnt banned. odd
ig its too common to ban
ornate bone
Piata
woven crag
weird that heavy rain is a timeout
Its like some king of rain world
ornate bone
SOme king of X isn't funny
prisma latch
nonsense
deft ore
SOme king of X isn't funny
thats peak humor wdym
ornate bone
if you're lobotimized, it is.
deft ore
does someone have the berdly "it's like shes in some queen of transgender" image
i cant find it
prisma latch
hang on why does pseudoshuffle have the possibility to sort the list before its shuffled. tf is the point of that
deft ore
hang on why does pseudoshuffle have the possibility to sort the list before its ...
i can't even think of any "obviously" use for thiss
thats how pointless this is
woven crag
Maybe it changes the outcome when using the same seed but thats it
modest canyon
okay it feels like mayhem has a REALLY REALLY FUCKING AWFUL memory leak somewhere
normal hollow
Maybe it changes the outcome when using the same seed but thats it
this is what im thinking on yes
modest canyon
holy hell what even
normal hollow
makes sense for a list that the player can manipulate in some way
woven crag
okay it feels like mayhem has a REALLY REALLY FUCKING AWFUL memory leak somewher...
You might need omeganum optimization talisman if you dont have it
Since mayhem has big operators
prisma latch
ok im making my own biasedshuffle function lets see how this goes
modest canyon
like yes we get that we are printing 8 tags per skipped pack but it was nowhere nearly as bad when we were doing the same shit in cryptid
deft ore
only 8?
woven crag
Rule 4...
latent crescent
Rule 4...
prisma latch
cant talk about that here ma guy
modest canyon
also whenever ANYTHING is selected the lovely console is spammed with inputs pretty much every tick
umbral pilot
also whenever ANYTHING is selected the lovely console is spammed with inputs pre...
lovely 🤮
why are you using that pile of junk
deft ore
someone reset the rule 4 counter
latent crescent
why are you using that pile of junk
so true
modest canyon
why are you using that pile of junk
what else
ornate bone
Can we just have a pinned message that says something like "MODS ARE PC ONLY."
latent crescent
I cannot connect to https on lovely so it sucks
deft ore
Can we just have a pinned message that says something like "MODS ARE PC ONLY."
people dont read the pins
ornate bone
MODS ARE STEAM ONLY. NO STEAM? NO MODS.
NO KIDDING.
umbral pilot
I just havent gotten around to implementing lovely fs 🤮
umbral pilot
where get
nah im just kidding
I get to talk crap about lovely but it does do an alright job methinks
ornate bone
there. made the perfect reponse for those asking for non-steam version mods.
deft ore
also yeah
the forbidden platform shall not be modded
stop violating rule 4
coming straight to your modding-chat directly from paint 3d
prisma latch
also yeah
the forbidden platform shall not be modded
why does this read like a deltarune prophecy
deft ore
why does this read like a deltarune prophecy
more like organikk dialogue imo
the tale that must not be followed
modest canyon
why does this read like a deltarune prophecy
i am ANOTHER HER
trust
dark darker yet darker n all that shit🙏
deft ore
i am ANOTHER HER
trust
dark darker yet darker n all that shit🙏
can you make me a new vessel my current one is disobedient
warm bloom
my game doesn't works since I did some process but I deleted balatro , the balatro files on appdata and it still doesn't works
deft ore
my game doesn't works since I did some process but I deleted balatro , the balat...
if you delete balatro you can't play balatro
crazy i know
warm bloom
if you delete balatro you can't play balatro
reinstalled
deft ore
reinstalled how
modest canyon
can you make me a new vessel my current one is disobedient
uhhhhhhhh shi i dunno really those things aint cheap
deft ore
did you verify game files on steam?
warm bloom
via steam
warm bloom
did you verify game files on steam?
delete the entire folder and downloaded
deft ore
is there a version.dll in downloads
woven crag
is there a version.dll in downloads
Balatro comes with a version.dll by default i thought
neon orchid
THE CHAD SHALL BE PHOTOGRAPHED.
Nah, not anymore
woven crag
Lovely's one just replaces it
deft ore
Balatro comes with a version.dll by default i thought
correcy
umbral pilot
nah
woven crag
Lovely cat
umbral pilot
it does not come with a version dll by default
umbral pilot
can i have +5 mult for my face cards please
no
deft ore
delete version.dll
neon orchid
THE CROWNED WILL MEET THE MUTE JESTER.
They divorced
warm bloom
delete version.dll
ok , on my downloads folder there is not version.dll
modest canyon
what the fuck
limber oriole
yoo
deft ore
might be in a folder labeled "lovely-somenumbershere"
umbral pilot
correcy
balatro does not ship with version.dll because it uses the one in system32. Lovely tricks the binary into loading it's own dll because of PE loader search path ordering
limber oriole
i got a question is there any good mods that are crypid extensions other than more mario jokers
deft ore
balatro does not ship with version.dll because it uses the one in system32. Love...
nvm then im an idiot
umbral pilot
nah you're not
deft ore
i got a question is there any good mods that are crypid extensions other than mo...
to have a good cryptid extension requires cryptid to be good
umbral pilot
it's not like that info is easily accessible lol
dont be hard on yourself, it's technical stuff
deft ore
balatro does not ship with version.dll because it uses the one in system32. Love...
what would happen if i put lovely version.dll in system32
limber oriole
to have a good cryptid extension requires cryptid to be good
You realize cryptid is just a mod it aint that deep
umbral pilot
what would happen if i put lovely version.dll in system32
your windows install would break. this is because the lovely version.dll file HAS to implement all of the same functions as the OG version.dll, but it does so by just forwarding those calls to the real version.dll in system32.
deft ore
your windows install would break. this is because the lovely version.dll file HA...
cool 👍
umbral pilot
but because lovely IS the version dll in system32 the calls would fail and everything would break
deft ore
You realize cryptid is just a mod it aint that deep
entropy has cryptid crossmod ig
not really an extension but close enough
limber oriole
entropy has cryptid crossmod ig
thank you.
deft ore
ascensio is not nearly on par with base cryptid exotics
it is, however, what cryptid exotics SHOULD be
woven crag
Idk man most of them are still like obscenely broken
Just not AS much as cryptid exotics
deft ore
Idk man most of them are still like obscenely broken
yeah but i feel thats fine
it still has to be:
- Cryptid
- Super rare and punishing to take
also like. the order exotic and whatnot are fine
limber oriole
how long will balatro last till it crashes someone put a guess
deft ore
how long will balatro last till it crashes someone put a guess
pretty long
deft ore
none of these would inherently break balatro (crash wise) except maybe baldatro
using the crash code card doesnt count
woven crag
Otherwise crash because five trillion cards redering
modest canyon
your windows install would break. this is because the lovely version.dll file HA...
what if we dont have a windows install
/genq
forest knoll
it works differently on native Mac/Linux (idk the details), and through proton/wine it references the version.dll from the fake windows environment that wine creates
prisma latch
ok hypothetically this should be a shuffle function that allows me to set upper and lower bounds for items that match specific requirements
modest canyon
it works differently on native Mac/Linux (idk the details), and through proton/w...
hmm
prisma latch
entirely forgot about this it jumpscared me
woven crag
Poison dot ogg 😨
prisma latch
wha
gilded vortex
ok *hypothetically* this should be a shuffle function that allows me to set uppe...
what is the goal
prisma latch
be able to shuffle specific cards to the first half of the deck
woven crag
Smh all smods things are capitalized it would be PoisonGame smh smh
I will become poison tomorrow maybe
fathom gust
ok so while this would be funny as hell
woven crag
If i feel like it
gilded vortex
be able to shuffle specific cards to the first half of the deck
Yeah I don't know if that works or what would work off the top of my head
prisma latch
ok so while this would be funny as hell
no way burning eyes deltarune
fathom gust
yeah i think that's overkill for a shitpost blind
gilded vortex
At best I can think of shuffle then swap cards on the wrong side
prisma latch
Yeah I don't know if that works or what would work off the top of my head
looking at the code i dont see any reason it shouldnt work, but i guess im gonna find out soon
its adaptable incase i need to meddle with any more shuffling in the future
gilded vortex
looking at the code i dont see any reason it shouldnt work, but i guess im gonna...
I'm not saying the result table isn't in the shape you want
I'm saying I don't know the distribution of the table is "fair"
prisma latch
idk
gilded vortex
At best I can think of shuffle then swap cards on the wrong side
If you want something fair I think this works
prisma latch
it just disallows any swaps that would allow cards to be in places they arent allowed
gilded vortex
If you want something fair I think this works
To be specific, it would be like, a list of indices where cards with a property should go, and then you go to every index not in the list and swap cards with that property with one in the list without
if possible
after shuffling the deck of course
visual kindle
why someone doesn't create a mod to optimize joker retriggers
prisma latch
i dont want them to be in specific indices i just want them to be in the first half
visual kindle
that way we could have 1 bagillion retriggers
without taking 500 years to calculate
gilded vortex
i dont want them to be in specific indices i just want them to be in the first h...
I mentioned specific indices because you said you wanted it to have arbitrary bounds
woven crag
why someone doesn't create a mod to optimize joker retriggers
Because its retriggers, you cant really optimize doing the same code multiple times besides basic mathematical operations
visual kindle
Because its retriggers, you cant really optimize doing the same code multiple ti...
thats what I mean the mathematical operations
like + mult
add dollars
add hand discards etc
woven crag
I mean i guess
But that only works if it is the only thing being done
Which isnt very often
visual kindle
you can optimize it for that stuff
and stuff like creating consumable with overflow
modest canyon
entirely forgot about this it jumpscared me
dj smokey reference?
prisma latch
who is dj smokey
visual kindle
what is dj smokey
modest canyon
awesome fuckin guy
umbral pilot
that way we could have 1 bagillion retriggers
tail call recursion
idk it's a fundamental issue
trail berry
deft ore
what the hell is this
trail berry
what the hell is this
umbral pilot
and it's also the kind of issue where solving it just causes the problem again, since retrigger demand will always make it unoptimized
"just one more lane" but with joker score performance
gilded vortex
@prisma latch I'm inclined to think your implementation works, but I think you could replace the while loop with a single execution of math.random
modest canyon
freaky,....
prisma latch
hm, by taking note of the highest low bound and the lowest high bound and using them as bounds for the number? yeah probably
gilded vortex
hm, by taking note of the highest low bound and the lowest high bound and using ...
kinda
you might need to track which indexes hold cards you want to stay inside
round pilot
west hill
you can optimize it for that stuff
you can't optimize something that has free reign on what the code can contain
gilded vortex
The point is to replace an uniform random distribution in [1..n] with an uniform distribution on an arbitrary finite set of indices
visual kindle
you can't optimize something that has free reign on what the code can contain
you can def optimize it for math operations like addition subtraction multiplication etc
round pilot
gilded vortex
which you can "easily" map with a distribution on [1..k] where k is the size of the set
prisma latch
youve lost me
gilded vortex
and the set is half of the deck minus the indices already holding cards you want to stay there
gilded vortex
youve lost me
it would be half of the deck, but you could swap a card you want in that's in with a card you want in that's out
west hill
you can def optimize it for math operations like addition subtraction multiplica...
no because you have no idea what else is happening within the calculate call, you can't just blanket skip it entirely and "solve" the retrigger stack with a simple math operation
visual kindle
no because you have no idea what else is happening within the calculate call, yo...
If the calculate call returns a table with {
mult=card.ability.extra.mult
}
on context.joker_main then I know It's giving mult
If It calls a function then I know it calls a function and so goes on
prisma latch
my attempt might not be the best but assuming it works im fine with it for now, if i end up using it for more than one joker ill think about optimising it but as it is it works for nwo
visual kindle
If It calls a function then I know it calls a function and so goes on
And If I read that function's code I'll end up knowing what the function does too
visual kindle
my attempt might not be the best but assuming it works im fine with it for now, ...
what are you doing?
gilded vortex
I concerned more with statistical fairness than optimization. Although the latter I am interested in. But you're right
normal hollow
are we solving the halting problem in modding chat
visual kindle
whats a halting problem?
normal hollow
i guess not
gilded vortex
are we solving the halting problem in modding chat
If you smash your Turing machine with a hammer it halts
visual kindle
is it a new lua function or math equation
normal hollow
gilded vortex
whats a halting problem?
Given a Turing machine and an infinite tape, does the machine halt?
woven crag
The only point of optimizing (joker) retriggers is getting more retriggers in which case you would just need more optimization
deft ore
how does he not know the halting problem
harsh glacier
😭
visual kindle
how does he not know the halting problem
I didn't read abt that function on lua doc
how do you expect me to know something new????
gilded vortex
Is there a Turing machine that, given a pair (Turing machine, infinite tape), determines if the pair halts?
modest canyon
the holding problem
gilded vortex
The ultimate answer is that such a machine doesn't exist
woven crag
I didn't read abt that function on lua doc
This isnt a lua thing vro this is a general coding problem
deft ore
no turing machine will halt actually, i've replaced them with machines that dont ever halt
you solve nothing
west hill
If the calculate call returns a table with {
mult=card.ability.extra.mult
}
on c...
sure, if you completely ignore what I'm saying your simple operation works fine 👍
gilded vortex
If you smash your Turing machine with a hammer it halts
Recall the hammer
All Turing machines halt if you smash them
visual kindle
sure, if you completely ignore what I'm saying your simple operation works fine ...
You are the one ignoring what I say
modest canyon
Is there a Turing machine that, given a pair `(Turing machine, infinite tape)`, ...
"given a pair" yeah alright what next, a straight? a royal flush?
prisma latch
why is it thowing a hissy fit about this. what does Unexpected <exp> mean
umbral pilot
you can def optimize it for math operations like addition subtraction multiplica...
math ops drop down to native instructions, they're pretty well optimized already
harsh glacier
why is it in []
visual kindle
If there's a joker that returns a table with mult= something on context.joker_main you are able to optimize the mult returning
deft ore
unstoppable hammer vs unhalting turing machine
prisma latch
You are the one ignoring what I say
the problem is we can't be sure what the functoin will output without running it. we might know it outputs mult, but we can't be sure how much
visual kindle
math ops drop down to native instructions, they're pretty well optimized already
I meant instead of adding 1 mult 1000 times add (1)*1000 1 time
woven crag
Its probably some wierd lua parser that fucks everything
prisma latch
for example there might be a random chance involved. with your solution it assumes that the first result of the random chance is what it is every single time
west hill
If there's a joker that returns a table with mult= something on context.joker_ma...
you can't correctly calculate retrigger results without actually running the function again, that's where all the slow down comes from. The issue isn't what the function outputs, it's what the function does other than output
prisma latch
that too
visual kindle
you can't correctly calculate retrigger results without actually running the fun...
I'm talking about optimizing the output whenever possible?
harsh glacier
trying to predict what will happen next to attempt optimizing that out is nigh impossible
don't bother
deft ore
even if say a joker did just give +4 mult and you optimized that to be +20 mult with 4 retriggers
there are jokers that depend on triggers of +mult effects and that would be different
harsh glacier
also if we're going by "optimizing whenever possible" the performance gain is negligible
deft ore
with 5 +mult triggers vs 1 +mult trigger
visual kindle
there are jokers that depend on triggers of +mult effects and that would be diff...
then you can also call calculate context that it triggered 5 times?
It's not that hard
woven crag
Then youre still calling a function multiple times
umbral pilot
hm
woven crag
Which has the same issue as before
visual kindle
Then youre still calling a function multiple times
I didn't say calling the function multiple times
umbral pilot
runtime or statically? @visual kindle
deft ore
Then youre still calling a function multiple times
is he saying also retrigger the function call
visual kindle
I say calling a context calculate
latent crescent
"This joker gains +4 mult per consumable" + smth like 8-ball. Good luck simulate it
visual kindle
that tells it triggered 5 times
deft ore
there's not a context for that afaik
visual kindle
giving +4 mult
deft ore
it's called hooking the smods function that processes that
umbral pilot
I mean in theory you could write a tracing optimizer that can analyse call graphs to determine which computations can be optimized without breaking any side effects
deft ore
which you cant really retrigger without just calling the whole function
visual kindle
"This joker gains +4 mult per consumable" + smth like 8-ball. Good luck simulate...
+4*retriggers wow
deft ore
tldr retriggers are about as optimized as they can be
harsh glacier
I mean in theory you could write a tracing optimizer that can analyse call graph...
the problem is obviously doing this
visual kindle
I mean in theory you could write a tracing optimizer that can analyse call graph...
True let's be honest though everyone here's lazy to do that (including me)
woven crag
+4*retriggers wow
What if consumables get added between triggers
modest canyon
what was he cooking❓
deft ore
if you're not playing The Numberslop Machine 3000 it doesn't even matter
woven crag
Then what huh
harsh glacier
i don't think seu pai is smart enough to figure it out
visual kindle
What if consumables get added between triggers
wym consumables get added between triggers
deft ore
what was he cooking❓
he's never cooking
woven crag
i don't think seu pai is smart enough to figure it out
Also true
visual kindle
- You're just inventing problems
latent crescent
Becaus that's the point
woven crag
He has tried to make so much bullshit that is literally impossible
umbral pilot
Meh I think it's pretty legitimate to talk about what ifs
latent crescent
It's only one of many cases
woven crag
Or insanely laggy or buggy
modest canyon
+ You're just inventing problems
thats literally the point yes
visual kindle
He has tried to make so much bullshit that is literally impossible
Like what
Cuz that's the only "near impossible" not impossible thing I said
umbral pilot
I still think that the easiest optimization work is all UI related, especially wrt. easing and frame animations
woven crag
Fixing talisman
warm bloom
no version.dll
deft ore
In a more restricted environment (in a vanilla game) approaches like that could work
visual kindle
Fixing talisman
still in W.I.P
deft ore
but you have to consider the wide expanse of modding