⚙・modding-general

[potent lance]

IS THIS NOT THE RIGHT INSTALL????

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[astral vapor]

which one are you using

[forest knoll]

are you. installing it properly?

[astral vapor]

x86 or arm

[potent lance]

x86

[astral vapor]

meta please save me babygirl

[faint silo]

Uh.. I've run into a new issue.

[astral vapor]

😭

[potent lance]

hold on last ditch effort

im gonna just straight up delete the directory

[tidal terrace]

Been there

[astral vapor]

i cant do this anymore im gon crash out

[potent lance]

then try installing it again

[astral vapor]

fuck

[forest knoll]

to be clear, where are you putting the version.dll file

[tidal terrace]

Macos

[astral vapor]

...they're a macOS user

[faint silo]

Balarto is just refusing to recognize the mods now, I put em all in my %AppData%\Balatro mods folder, and now it's just now working XD

[forest knoll]

or the uh
whatever the file is

[astral vapor]

liblovely.dylib

and the run_lovely.sh

[tidal terrace]

Does it work now?

[faint silo]

No

[tidal terrace]

Does it load steamodded ?

[astral vapor]

i put my lovely right where the steam game directory is

[potent lance]

I GOT IT TO WORK

FUCK

[faint silo]

Weirdly no it doesn't.

[astral vapor]

reasts

[potent lance]

SWEET VICTORY

[tidal terrace]

Check if your folder is nested

[potent lance]

FUCK

[faint silo]

My folder is nested?

[potent lance]

oh my god okay so i think i found my problem which, in hindsight was very very stupid

[finite harbor]

hi chat

[tidal terrace]

Folder inside of a folder

[astral vapor]

average mac user when they dont know how to control the unix side

[tidal terrace]

[potent lance]

i use balatro mod manager so id always launch with that, but it seems with new installs you have to directly run run_lovely_macos.sh and liblovely.dylib itself

all of my problems are self inflicted

[astral vapor]

WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME YOU USE BMM

STOP USING THAT

[potent lance]

wh

why :(

[astral vapor]

JUST MANAGE YOUR MODS MANUALLY

[potent lance]

but i like it

[daring sluice]

you can use it if you want

[astral vapor]

bmm has too many issues

especially on macOS where shit is not designed for us

[potent lance]

it works well enough

[ivory sinew]

Evil Tag

[deft ore]

it's good to learn to manually manage mods so you can fix more problems yourself

[daring sluice]

true

[astral vapor]

cant believe im agreeing with you tenna but yes

[potent lance]

i do manage my mods myself i just use it for updates and launching

[faint silo]

Do you mean like this or... am I just being dumb again >.>

[deft ore]

i don't have a stop doing bmm image unfortunately

[earnest eagle]

@gray viper Was the "specific streamer" Roffle?

[dusty token]

have you added your version.dll in same folder as balatro.exe

[daring sluice]

there will come a day when we don't have problems

surely

[faint silo]

I should have it there I put it there last night.

[potent lance]

since bmm makes launching with lovely easier, i hate going to the folder each time to run the file

[astral vapor]

on MacOS? fat fucking chance

[forest knoll]

i am taking BMM out back and sending it to a great big field where it plays all the time with thunderstore and all its other friends

[astral vapor]

LMAO

[deft ore]

if you use it for updates thats not you managing mods yourself

[potent lance]

ah

[dusty token]

did you get any console window when opening balatro?

[daring sluice]

ehhh i think mac will get roughly the same amount of support if we stick with BMM

bmm dev mostly works on mac

[potent lance]

well how the fuck am i supposed to know to update when nobody tells me to update >:[

[earnest eagle]

Balatrussy Mod Manager

[faint silo]

I'll relaunch then report back.

[finite harbor]

chat does anyone have a fix for cryptid crashing on shop enter randomly

[astral vapor]

blocked.

[daring sluice]

but also like good riddance i don't like macos

[finite harbor]

it kills ALL my good runs and it's so annoying

[potent lance]

uninstall cryptid theres your fix

[earnest eagle]

Sorry

[finite harbor]

but I like equalibrium

and misprinit

and the jokers

[potent lance]

beh

[finite harbor]

;-;

[potent lance]

i dont like cryptid

[astral vapor]

bro sorry if i cant afford both a productivity rig and a gaming rig

[frigid mica]

I would have to make the stars much brighter so this actually looks like a spectral card

[earnest eagle]

HOLY PEAK

[faint silo]

Yea I got a launch window for Lovely when I launched it, but it's not using the mods I put in the mods folder

[full edge]

if you have a crashlog, send those, that'll make it easier to figure out what's going wrong

[daring sluice]

not sure what this has to do with me not liking macos

[potent lance]

its code is infuriating and its additions are comically silly. i understand the appeal of big number but if the game isnt balanced like vanilla i dont see the appeal

[finite harbor]

uhhh hold on

lemme try to find it

[faint silo]

It's not using my mods at all XD

[forest knoll]

show a screenshot of your Mods folder, as well as inside the steamodded in your Mods folder

[oblique berry]

Fire

[potent lance]

@astral vapor its less 'get a windows pc' and more just 'macOS fucking blows'

[deft ore]

you check every week or something

[potent lance]

if your laptop can handle it, linux aint that bad

[frigid mica]

For a mod I’m making

[potent lance]

id be using it if my laptop wasnt from like 2015 or something

[oblique berry]

Holy shit

[daring sluice]

i don't think there's a laptop in the world that can't handle linux

[finite harbor]

where do u find logs

[potent lance]

i cant update past monterey :b

[earnest eagle]

If anything, it's better than Winbl🤢at

[forest knoll]

hiii maxwell

[deft ore]

lovely folder in mods

[full edge]

Changing over the art on the Kino wiki to the new stuff. I didn't mind the old art, originally, but having the pixel art now, those old ones are eh... not great

[finite harbor]

alr thx :33

[daring sluice]

i love my debloated windows

[dusty token]

did you put all your mods in %appdata%\Balatro\Mods

[earnest eagle]

Windows itself is bloat, with all the crapware phoning home, @daring sluice

[astral vapor]

ohhh sorry

[frigid mica]

It’s not balanced by any means, I am turning you into a joker too btw

[potent lance]

why are true gifs blocked in the server wtf

[daring sluice]

you have a problem

[tidal terrace]

Local thunk hates gifs

[astral vapor]

womp womp

[oblique berry]

👀

[earnest eagle]

No, you do, for running Windows

[potent lance]

tiny11 isnt bad tho

[daring sluice]

yeahhh

[potent lance]

id upgrade to it if i wasnt a stagnant bitch who refuses to get off windows10

[daring sluice]

it's fine

[earnest eagle]

Linux still better

[finite harbor]

I use vanilla Win11 pro and I'm fine with it so far tbh

[daring sluice]

using windows will not cause my firstborn to die it is not a big deal

[faint silo]

First image, Steam Balarto folder, Second image %AppData% Mods folder.

[astral vapor]

windows stinks, macOS stinks, and linux is barely supported by anyone

[forest knoll]

having strongly held convictions about operating systems is fine
being mean about other people's choices is a problem

[potent lance]

chat we gotta get balatro ported to templeOS

[dusty token]

%AppData%\Mods or %AppData%\Balatro\Mods?

[tidal terrace]

Muuuuuuurphy stream

[sleek granite]

chat this message appeared on my balatro what happen

[astral vapor]

god dammit

[frigid mica]

Imagine a balatro mod that has Tyler the creator, Mf doom, spinel, Minos prime, Murphy, the second coming and golden Freddy

As jokers

[daring sluice]

balatro on bsd

[potent lance]

On it

[astral vapor]

that's macOS.

[dusty token]

linux has wine

[north salmon]

it will probably work

[astral vapor]

MacOS is based on BSD...

[daring sluice]

i mean like freebsd, etc

[faint silo]

%AppData%\Balatro\Mods

[potent lance]

how the fuck would balatro run on a big sexy dick

[north salmon]

just need to unpack exe

[astral vapor]

why not Haiku?

[daring sluice]

i don't think things written for macos run on freebsd

[frigid mica]

I should call my new consumables “Bootleg” cards

[dusty token]

hmm thats weird

[frigid mica]

Code cards but no thought put into them

[potent lance]

genuinely fire idea

[north salmon]

depends on how its written

[full edge]

Which of these do I set as the category image for jokers on the wiki?

[forest knoll]

when i ask for a specific screenshot there's a reason i want it
can you show what's inside the steamodded folder like i asked

[daring sluice]

im just naming some random bsd based os' i know

[unkempt current]

Jokes aside cryptid isn't really good
Sure, at first you see the numbers go up and get 4 Es and have some fun, but then it gets boring, right?

[sleek granite]

mall clown

[daring sluice]

im not picking favorites

[astral vapor]

paul blart

[finite harbor]

@full edge imma just play with cryptid until the crash happens again then I'll send it here and ping u

okay?

[north salmon]

mall clown is absolute cinema

[potent lance]

ive been wanting inverted tarots for a long time but its just so i can get a reverse strength i dont wanna do other things so thats why i never cooked the idea, but a bootleg strength just fixes that issue #awesome

[tidal terrace]

Chat do i make reward tags random or depending on what challenges you complete ?

[full edge]

yeah, sure! Leaving in a bit, though, but Cryptid crashes are common enough that if I'm not around someone else'll be able to help too, haha

Mall Clown it is, then

[deft ore]

3

[sleek granite]

Ice did you catch counterholder

[potent lance]

bootleg glass where instead of X2 1 in 4 to break its 1 in 4 to X2

[astral vapor]

45 degree rotated tarots

[potent lance]

with antialias 😋

[deft ore]

guaranteed to break

[full edge]

I only saw that you made a mult one, but that's sick!

[sleek granite]

it picks randomly from the 5 (purely) beneficial counters

[finite harbor]

do I install cryptposting as well

[faint silo]

Okay, sorry I didn't see this message sooner, heres whats inside the SMods folder

[finite harbor]

cause iirc Cryptid iis the only one that has the crash

[full edge]

Oh, I never set up the tagging system and a good in_pool for counters, did I?

[finite harbor]

that is my issue

[sleek granite]

i didnt see anything implying such, no

Mult, Chips, XMult, Money, Retrigger are the options here

[deft ore]

no

cryptposting is worse than cryptid

[forest knoll]

and what's the path in that screenshot? is it directly Mods/smods or is there an extra folder?

[potent lance]

Truth

[faint silo]

It's mods then Smods.

[full edge]

just to play with, or to reproduce the crash you keep running into?

[finite harbor]

just to play with

[potent lance]

Like I'm gonna be honest, if you really just want an absurd mod

[finite harbor]

while I play until I get the crash again

[potent lance]

Get yahiamod not cryptid

[deft ore]

play aikoshen

or yahimod yeah

[sleek granite]

i should make it so counterholder doesnt attempt to overwrite counters maybe

[finite harbor]

bro I just wanna have fun 😭

[sleek granite]

cuz then different counterholders just compete

[finite harbor]

I like cryptid and cryptposting and they're fun for me

[potent lance]

Yahimod is fun

[deft ore]

try a stopwatch

it has big number go up AND buttons

[daring sluice]

[deft ore]

what more could you want

[full edge]

I'd have to check, but I thought I made it so you can give a 'false' in the apply_counter command and have it not be able to overwrite

[finite harbor]

this community ffs

[faint silo]

It's mods then Smods.

[sleek granite]

oh yes but the logic for "distributing" would need to be different

[potent lance]

Sorry for dogging on you senko

[daring sluice]

play what you want my friend

[full edge]

Oh, yeah, I don't know anything about Cryptposting, haha. Chance it might make the bug report a but toughter to figure out, but Cryptid tends to have some common errors, honestly

[finite harbor]

now my game doesn't even load

[potent lance]

I'm just the #1 cryptid hater it's in my contract

I have to be like this

[finite harbor]

:33

[deft ore]

don’t steal my job

[full edge]

Yeah, I'll add helper functions that can pick cards in specific areas without counters, or without x-type counters, or with counters

[sleek granite]

oh cool

[potent lance]

The younger hire always replaces the vet, that's capitalism

[sleek granite]

hey Ice is it intended that counters tick up/down when held in hand even if its like a mult counter and doesnt do anything

[finite harbor]

dude why does it not loaddd

it says error with cryptid but it USED to load with this EXACT CONFIGUARTION

[potent lance]

Cuz it's cryptid

[full edge]

I'm all for disliking Cryptid, but I do think it's good to keep in mind that it really sucks for people to just ask about cryptid and just get 5 reply pings telling them that cryptid is a bad mod

[finite harbor]

^^^ this

[tacit ledge]

save seems to have gotten corrupted and i think it may have been because of some modding shenanigans. anyone know how to fix this?

happens whenever i click the play button on my main profile

[full edge]

You may have doubled something up in your installation, I'd check if you have one folder for each mod, and if they're not nested

[deft ore]

send mod list

[finite harbor]

alr, imma do that :33

[potent lance]

Fair, I just hate cryptid cuz it's coded like yanderedev made it. It's impossible to parse

[full edge]

Nope! Counters shouldn't tick down in hand in most cases, though I may have set that up incorrectly?

[sleek granite]

ok well now it's not doing that

[potent lance]

In terms of actual mod content, I don't judge playstyles

[faint silo]

Honestly, I'm about to just throw in the towel and go play Hollow Knight, this is a bigger headache than even I wanted.

[sleek granite]

so it might be more complicated than i thought

[full edge]

What's the last time you checked the Cryptid code?

[potent lance]

Like

[full edge]

I might have created some unintended edgecases due to the calc function being intended to work for both joker triggers and card scoring

[potent lance]

~6 months ago maybe?

[deft ore]

on mobile

send list

[finite harbor]

mod list:

CardSleeves, Cryptid, Cryptposting, Debugplus, lovely, Partner, Steamodded, Talisman, TooManyDecks, Vortex, and Wilder

I have no clue what makes cryptid crap itself here

[full edge]

Ah yeah, it's a lot better now, code-wise, after people did some complaining that it was hard to work with, crashed a lot, etc.

[mint flame]

just improved my media player to add more reusability
you can now adjust the playtime of the video as well as use any video :]

[deft ore]

ortalab is broken rn

[full edge]

If you're running into those issues, try launching with one mod at the time and see what's working!

[potent lance]

Cryptid has active development?????????????????

[tacit ledge]

okay. is there a way to recover my safe file?

[full edge]

somewhat-ish

[sleek granite]

ortalab is broken? did someone tell ortalab?

[finite harbor]

alr Imma try removing some mods

[potent lance]

I thought the mod creator died of an overdose or something

[deft ore]

reset profile

[dusty token]

what

[tacit ledge]

is there a way to recover it that isnt reset profile

[deft ore]

probably not if it still crashes without ortalab

[full edge]

Ruby's done an insane amount of work on it, and I did some minor stuff on it to try and make the codebase more workable because I kept having people crash my mod when they played it with Cryptid. But Ruby's been the star player in fixing up Cryptid's code

[deft ore]

shinku quit afaik

[potent lance]

I'm sorry Ivee you can try copying the file to a backup, but this is kinda one of those situations of just hindsight

[deft ore]

ruby will save us all

[finite harbor]

liteerally have base cryptid and it still crashes on load

[sleek granite]

im still pretty jazzed about how this turned out

[finite harbor]

do I redownload cryptid from github repo

[deft ore]

is it nested

[finite harbor]

no

[sleek granite]

paradox you know ortalab 1.0 is out right

[potent lance]

@tacit ledge You can try getting the file from another device that has steam maybe, steam cloud might be your savior

[deft ore]

wait what

[earnest eagle]

Sry for the DM, @tacit ledge!

[deft ore]

since when

[full edge]

does it play nicely? Burn counters are the one I'm most enthusiastic about, haha

[sleek granite]

it plays well but i think it might need to burn faster

[forest knoll]

few days ago

[full edge]

final check is to launch it without cryptid, just to confirm lovely and smods are installed properly, haha

[sleek granite]

(i.e. the effect might need to apply more than one burn counter....)

[dusty token]

you might have corrupted save

[finite harbor]

works fine without cryptid

[tacit ledge]

i wouldnt recommend playing it as its most likely the thing that did just fuck over my save lol

[sleek granite]

i might make it burn faster and give sliiiiightly less xmult

[tacit ledge]

nah they both fucked over

[deft ore]

cryptid uses different folders for its save data

[sleek granite]

yeah my save is just an unlock all profile so

[tacit ledge]

where does balatro store its save files? is it human readable?

[sleek granite]

not exactly risking anything

[full edge]

Assuming your Smods is the latest release version (0827c), it should work if you download cryptid from the repo's release tab and grab the latest release

[deft ore]

same folder as lovely

in 1 2 and 3

[sleek granite]

oh hey ice also counter feedback

[potent lance]

Rip

[deft ore]

my actual vanilla save is on mobile so i can mod pc

[sleek granite]

they probably should have a way to be applied immediately for cases like deck view where if your deck has a lot of counters on it the counters will pop in slowly

[potent lance]

I just try not to do shit that bricks my save and I'm safe

[sleek granite]

(i.e. in copy_card)

[potent lance]

Tis the life of a vanilla based modder

[full edge]

Oh yeah, good point. I was definitely aware of that but I'm a bit of a space cadet so I forget about stuff after noticing it until it really becomes a problem, haha

but yeah, a silent apply parameter would be great

[tacit ledge]

time to go through the games exe file and try to manually restore my save lol

[potent lance]

do you know exactly what fucked your save?

like with cryptid bricks we now know its the highest score saved number

[tacit ledge]

no but i know that an nil value is apparently being indexed at misc_functions.lua:1819

[potent lance]

cute card art

[vale sage]

hi gamers

[potent lance]

when does it happen? on launch or when you play game or something else

[tacit ledge]

when i press play game

[potent lance]

mmh

[full edge]

buuut, it does look cute that way

[potent lance]

do you know it fixes when you switch profiles?

[tacit ledge]

other profiles are fine

switching back and forth doesnt fix the main profile tho

[potent lance]

does it still happen when you have no mods?

[deft ore]

this doesn’t mean shit

[sleek granite]

well i wanna press the deck view button and see what my deck looks like lol

[finite harbor]

I GOT IT TO WORK

[tacit ledge]

yes it does

[potent lance]

hrnn

[heady sparrow]

ppl say that any non-Vanilla+ mod is horrible dogshit and I honestly hate that they do
I don't hate Cryptid for the balancing, not at all
I hate it because of how many crashes it causes

[potent lance]

yeah same

[sleek granite]

the little animation is cute sure but deck view is Information

[full edge]

Yeah, no I know, haha, you're totally right. I'll fix it once I have time tonight

[potent lance]

i just dislike the code it was made by a fucking yandev tier coder

[full edge]

Together with the chips counter name 😛

[heady sparrow]

a lot of games are held up by duct tape and a dream

[sleek granite]

mult counterholder

[heady sparrow]

the difference is

[potent lance]

game is one thing, mod is another

[finite harbor]

as Ice suggested, I just downloaded straight from github

[heady sparrow]

that duct tape and a dream is enough to keep from deterring from a casual player's experience in those games

[potent lance]

like, i know it was an early mod, but cmon smods was out when cryptid was made

[full edge]

it was made by like 20 people contributing randomly and carries a lot of complicated systems that were made before smods made them easier. It's spaghetti for entirely other reasons

[tacit ledge]

im just going to look at the code and see if i can figure out whats happening

[potent lance]

same

[full edge]

is it working?

[finite harbor]

so far, yeah

[heady sparrow]

okay but atp it really should get a total rewrite

[full edge]

Great!

[heady sparrow]

like it's SUPER unstable

[finite harbor]

a crash I had with the mod manager version is editions deck crashing

[potent lance]

hold on ivee, are you comfortable with calling and streaming?

[finite harbor]

right now that is not an issue with the latest github release

[full edge]

yeah BMM is kinda whacky, sadly, due to some lack of maintenance

[finite harbor]

so hopefully the other crash is also resolved

[sleek granite]

i wonder what other counters i could even add

[potent lance]

im not the best debugger but i know what its like to lose a save so im trying to help you out lol

[tacit ledge]

yeah sure why not

[sleek granite]

xchips is the obvious one

[full edge]

github releases are the way to go for most mods, unless the mod specifies something different itself

[potent lance]

im in ur dms ivee

[heady sparrow]

I usually don't commit to the github for my mod until I'm ready to release

[tacit ledge]

scary

[heady sparrow]

since I solo playtest

so usually either work in my mod's case lol

[full edge]

I've got plenty of issues what how Cryptid's ran, so I'm not in full defense mode, but it's been rewritten in huge parts, and the stability has been drastically improved.

[dusty token]

whats a git

[heady sparrow]

even if the stability's improved, it's not stable

I still got plenty of crashes directly related to it, even on 0.5.11

to the point that I don't even bother anymore just because I was getting tired of the crashes

[azure dagger]

Some mods you can just do the green Code button on. It's up to the mod dev really.

[deft ore]

the unfortunate part about cryptid is until it stops needing talisman it’ll always be unstable

it’s just the way talisman works

[full edge]

Yes, but ideally mod devs don't set up their mods that way, especially if they're far enough in development that they want people to play it. It causes a lot of communication issues, and also causes players to mess up installs way more often

[fiery dune]

I did NOT consent to my likeness being used for this mod

[full edge]

oh, that's entirely fair. Part of that's been Cryptid's eh... unconventional release methods, in part, of not updating versions when a bugfix goes live, or pushing versions without any testing anything

[unkempt current]

Uhhhh

Hmmm

[normal hollow]

ponyo

[full edge]

ponyo to you too

[heady sparrow]

yeah

[deft ore]

counter counter that adds counters to other cards

[azure dagger]

ponyo

[heady sparrow]

like I'll hear about a ton of bugfixes that are just

[deft ore]

ponyo

[heady sparrow]

never pushed to release

[fiery dune]

@full edge How dare you steal my likeness

[normal hollow]

i have a main branch and a dev branch just so i can push fixes without having to push every new change

[heady sparrow]

erm
Buddy Holly died in 1959, which means you CAN'T be Buddy Holly!!
I think YOU'RE the likeness thief around here!!!!!!!

[dusty token]

also, whats up with the photon manager now, cant find the git

[deft ore]

pushing fixes is called a patch i think

[full edge]

Cryptid should really use a dev branch, or make it incredibly clear that their main branch isn't for players, but I think they'd not be able to train that out of their users, hahaha

[azure dagger]

TEXAS MENTIONED

[sleek granite]

cryptid should cryptid

[deft ore]

you can’t make it clear cryptid fans can’t read

[heady sparrow]

cryptid should cryptid itself!!11!1

[normal hollow]

a patch is whatever the dev decides a patch is

[azure dagger]

this is true

[heady sparrow]

(devs! devs! two more cryptid clones! /j)

[sleek granite]

if i gave you $50 right now what would you do with it

[deft ore]

cryptid should be sold for $2

[fiery dune]

No that was a coverup

Shhh

I'm a mall cop now

[azure dagger]

I'm at least gonna try to get some dividends off of it.

[deft ore]

buy five copies of blueprint

[fiery dune]

I'm in witness protection

The Big Bopper was gonna get me bro

[heady sparrow]

save it

[heady sparrow]

calls The Big Bopper rn

I mean what

[fiery dune]

NO

[deft ore]

they should sell cryptid to me for four dollars

[fiery dune]

I owe him $20

[heady sparrow]

well

because of interest and inflation

[fiery dune]

Pay back The Big Bopper

[heady sparrow]

that's moreso about $300 million

so yeah

[deft ore]

just use the hermit smh

[heady sparrow]

the feds have found you

you're going to JAIL

to PRISON

[fiery dune]

No

This can't be

[heady sparrow]

teleports you to JAIL PRISON JAIL

[fiery dune]

Tell them I've saved my mall countless times

Paul's only saved his mall twice

He gets praise

[heady sparrow]

too bad

[hard plank]

I'm shilling my mod again

[heady sparrow]

locks you in solitary confinement forever

[heady sparrow]

hi shilling my mod again, I'm Sage

[deft ore]

where’s the advertising

[fiery dune]

Check out my mods tho

Musical Jokers

I also made Rick Roll Joker

Check that one out even if you don't want to be rickrolled

You'll enjoy what it can do

[astral vapor]

my mod features aikoyori's fucked up bluetooth

[hard plank]

you should play my mod

[deft ore]

everyone should go play https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1334717157098913833 right now

[hard plank]

for some reason Bluetooth has been working

I'm not even joking

[fiery dune]

Rick Roll Joker was the first Joker to have a video playing in Balatro

[hard plank]

idk if this is some sick fucking joke

[deft ore]

ever?

[silent thistle]

eae

[astral vapor]

the phone could sense it was getting replaced and surrendered

[fiery dune]

yes 😎

I made it with MathIsFun

[hard plank]

my mod has custom music but it doesn't replace main menu music

[deft ore]

john cryptid himself

[heady sparrow]

meows

and then

meows again

[potent lance]

truuueeee

[astral vapor]

pov: astro joker/partner

[potent lance]

i followed aikoyori a while ago the shit you were doing was crazy

[heady sparrow]

[potent lance]

like yahimod level code bullshit

[tranquil vessel]

what mod is this from?

[potent lance]

malverk

[hard plank]

I'll be a broken record for saying this but

[potent lance]

its a system for reskin mods

[hard plank]

yahimod is more or less a gimmick mod

[blissful brook]

Is there any_rank in smods?

[hard plank]

nothing wrong with it

[astral vapor]

my mod is so unbalanced that the cryptposting devs crashed out upon seeing my jokers

[fiery dune]

#1328750593522798634 message

[heady sparrow]

lol

[blissful brook]

Or I need to implement it

[fiery dune]

I sent the video of it there

[hard plank]

quantum rank tomorrow

[silent thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1404160210951475231

[deft ore]

which ones

[lost bolt]

what the fuck is this

[hard plank]

hi larswijn

[silent thistle]

not quite

[tranquil vessel]

pretty sure that ain't malverk

[astral vapor]

stelle steelbrooke

[potent lance]

see but the difference is its not coded like tf2

[tranquil vessel]

aiko hiiii

[potent lance]

nnnoo i think it is?

[heady sparrow]

😭

[fiery dune]

I also made one that played Family Guy episodes

Cutaway Gag was the name of the Joker lmao

[astral vapor]

where's the one where aiko is flipping me off

[tranquil vessel]

malverk doesn't do anything with sounds or soundpacks last I checked

[heady sparrow]

REAL

[hard plank]

have you not played the base game

[potent lance]

that isnt soundpacks thats the skin selection screen from malverk

[hard plank]

before today

[deft ore]

aikoyori council

[astral vapor]

i've played it a few times

not as much as i should

[hard plank]

don't ask how i draw i don't even know

[deft ore]

how many decks have you gold staked

[hard plank]

oh that's why the rarities are fucked beyond belief

[astral vapor]

0

[astral vapor]

I HAD SOMEONE REBALANCE IT

TWICE NOW

[deft ore]

at least do like. checkered deck

[tranquil vessel]

then why the hell does it say "soundpacks" twice, "version 1.0.2" (a malverk version that never existed), and why did Jogla link to a completely different mod that's not malverk

[hard plank]

look I've never had a real gold stake run i gave up on my way in orange

was playing red deck btw

[astral vapor]

on modded however

maybe 1?

[lost bolt]

is there like a guide to how balatro rarities work or is it just vibes

[potent lance]

oh shit you right lol

[astral vapor]

idk if using smth above gold stake counts

[hard plank]

vibes based

[full edge]

In what sense?

[potent lance]

it looked enough like it from a glance i thought it was malverk lmaoooo

[astral vapor]

i just base it on vibes but apparently i'm wrong

[lost bolt]

like why is a joker common vs uncommon vs rare

[deft ore]

ive gold staked eight decks

[potent lance]

[astral vapor]

since i based my rarities on being aligned with cryptid

[hard plank]

I'm going to get more artists on board with my mod

[deft ore]

the more complex it is the higher rarity and the stronger it should be

[hard plank]

I've already asked 2

[daring sluice]

i heart complexity based rarities

[hard plank]

but idk what i want them to draw yet

[full edge]

No hard lines, but it seems to generally fit the way other drafting games set their rarities up, even if Thunk hadn't played a lot of them. Higher rarity is often more specific, not per se stronger, though strong works too

[deft ore]

commons are generally applicable while rares are run defining

[tranquil vessel]

all gucci

[lost bolt]

legendary usually has a unique effect, is strong, and lacks a "written" downside

[full edge]

But rares work in less types of builds, while commons provide generic effects. Strength is often also based more so on how easy it is to use that strength, rather than rarity. The more generically useful a joker is, the weaker, but also the more common

[deft ore]

canio’s hidden downside is hanged man doesn’t fucking show up

[blissful brook]

What effect would reverse death ("Life?") have?

[heady sparrow]

canio's second hidden downside is getting pareidolia

[heady sparrow]

convert right card to left card

[blissful brook]

Not so shitpost

[heady sparrow]

I'm not wrong

[deft ore]

select two cards and swap their suit and rank

[heady sparrow]

also you on this shit?

[blissful brook]

Yes

[heady sparrow]

real

[deft ore]

if tenna wasn’t like. the owner of tv world he could be a good secret boss

[deft ore]

two of them are checkered and blue though

[blissful brook]

I left vanilla balatro after first gold steak

[azure dagger]

LIMBUS COMPANYYYYYY

[deft ore]

🥩

[blissful brook]

That was intended

[deft ore]

look mark i made a steak

[blissful brook]

*Mike

[hard plank]

paradox

[astral vapor]

look at my dog

her name is noodles. she's an idiot <3

[hard plank]

am I inherently evil

[astral vapor]

yes

[blissful brook]

You're shenaniganish

[deft ore]

no

[azure dagger]

doggie

[deft ore]

why would you be

[wraith seal]

i cant buy silksong

help

[hard plank]

my dad said that i can tell him when i replace my phone

[deft ore]

its been two and a half hours

how

[hard plank]

you know what sucks

[wraith seal]

it is NOT going through

[fiery dune]

Which one, I see 5

[astral vapor]

vacuums

[hard plank]

s26 will probably come in February

[woven crag]

hell yeah

[deft ore]

hi eris

[wraith seal]

tbf i did take inspiration from malverk so people can navigate more easily 3:

[frigid mica]

Ok

[deft ore]

cheese

[frigid mica]

Fuck.

[wraith seal]

tasty

[hard plank]

I CAN'T BUY SILKSONG

[frigid mica]

I hate myself so much

I can never get this spectral card right.

[wraith seal]

same

[deft ore]

steam moment

[wraith seal]

u just gotta fix the shading of the moon i think

[frigid mica]

I’ve done all i could

[wraith seal]

its too bright so it looks like cheese

[frigid mica]

Isn’t the moon supposed to look bright at night?

[wraith seal]

ermmmm not that kind of bright

likeeee

the yellow looks like its cheese yellow

🧀

[forest knoll]

any particular reason you switched away from the crescent moon? I think I liked that better

[deft ore]

you should keep it as it is and call the spectral floating cheese orb

🔥

[wraith seal]

but anyways yeah its the shading

[frigid mica]

Everyone hates the jpeg ass moon back in #🎨・fan-art

[forest knoll]

anyway the issue with the shading is that the moon splotches/crater are too dark in comparison with the rest of the surface, they look like holes all the way through the moon

[frigid mica]

Do I get rid of the darker shades

Darker crater shades

[wraith seal]

i think it might have to do with texturing too actually?

maybe its not really the color, just that it looks too smooth

[west oracle]

Just download it on console

[frigid mica]

Like this

The image takes long to load

[forest knoll]

No one said anything about it being a crescent specifically, just giving feedback

[deft ore]

better

[frigid mica]

It should look crusty as hell then

[deft ore]

does need texture though

[plush hound]

https://youtu.be/ckkIiHek1-s?si=By0C4nVh5596IZ6u

[forest knoll]

what are you using for reference?

[plush hound]

they got the damn

mult and chips counter

wgat the fuck

[wraith seal]

who up multing it

[deft ore]

pizza x mult

[tidal terrace]

I’m Infact dizzy

[hard plank]

@tidal terrace you're supposed to score within 1% blind req

[tidal terrace]

Since morning

[blissful brook]

I tried to draw mod icon
It is terrible
I'd rather keep older one (second)

[tidal terrace]

I thought it was requirement for scoring to gain +1 selection limit

Anyways thanks

[deft ore]

is that john mantle

[hard plank]

no it just gains one every ante

[blissful brook]

Yes

[tidal terrace]

I played word bomb

It was fun

[frigid mica]

Idk how to do it though

[frigid mica]

Nothing

[forest knoll]

use a reference

[hard plank]

:P

[daring sluice]

ortaikoyorilab?

[deft ore]

my favorite mod is ortaaikoyorilab

[frigid mica]

At this point, I should just steal a png of the moon

[daring sluice]

this factor is so io

[deft ore]

steal the moon

[forest knoll]

using a reference != slapping a png in

[potent lance]

hype

[frigid mica]

What’s !=

[forest knoll]

not equal to

[deft ore]

lua uses ~=

[wraith seal]

~= vs !=

[daring sluice]

any ~=ers

[hard plank]

≠

[wraith seal]

who would win

[plush hound]

stdio

why isn't studio

are they stipid

[daring sluice]

standard io

[deft ore]

!= is infinitely better

[forest knoll]

anyway my point is you're doing good. your art looks good. our feedback isn't meant to tear you down, but to help you get even better

[wraith seal]

what about not ==

[normal hollow]

i hate ~

[hard plank]

n

[normal hollow]

aikoyori

[blissful brook]

Okay, this one is good

[unborn plover]

Happiness

And I am happy too

[heady sparrow]

miaus

and miaus again

but then

miaus once more

and them miaus once more again

[unborn plover]

Why?
Cuz today I just passed the driving test

And now one problem of my life is resolved :)

[blissful brook]

Done

[frigid mica]

Yeah but I didn’t know that feedback makes me feel worse about my own mistakes

I thought I had done everything right

If I failed then I have to start from scratch

[wraith seal]

is that a pill

i would probably choke on that ngl

[worn bone]

this joker looked better in my head (and i still don't like how the description looks i hate this wording)

[blissful brook]

Yes
Mod is called acepilled now

Because I want to give aces some love

[hard plank]

why is the line smooth

[worn bone]

i dont know how it became smooth

[frigid mica]

“And then he stopped trying.”

Atleast I was happy with the outcome with the last few ones

This one just sucks

I fucking hate it.

Kill it with fire.

[blissful brook]

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

[frigid mica]

LOUD CORRECT BELL

[vale sage]

me when i lie

[blissful brook]

Bruh, I use jokerforge just to add sprites because nothing I have in my mind rn can be made in it
And I am too lazy to learn smods.atlas

[vale sage]

uh

you just

SMODS.Atlas {
    key = "Hanako",
    path = "bttiHanako.png",
    px = 71,
    py = 95
}

i mean

[hard plank]

hatoving

[unborn plover]

And all the SMODS.atlas you put them in a atlasses file

[normal hollow]

the last one is evil

[unborn plover]

Cuz lately I learned that it's better to make spritesheets (like aikoyori just did rn) rather than separate sprite files...

[normal hollow]

it cant :3 at me just like that

[earnest eagle]

🧀

[earnest eagle]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[unborn plover]

Unlike Bunco that just... used one file for everything

[hard plank]

:3

[unborn plover]

I kid you not, Bunco literally used one Lua file for every single modded feature.

[earnest eagle]

Someone's cooking hard there, Aiko!

[normal hollow]

i use a ton of atlases

[normal hollow]

bunco is old

[wraith seal]

hol on 005 is really good

did you draw it 🤔

[wraith seal]

or is it just downscaled lol

[normal hollow]

no lol, its the poker edited

[wraith seal]

a

[normal hollow]

poster

[wraith seal]

icic

[unborn plover]

I mean yeah but I used much more atlasses cuz I used separate sprites instead of spritesheets.
Now that I put my joker enhancements and booster packs in various spritesheets it makes everything easier to control

(And I didn't make an atlas file in the past)

[mint flame]

alright gang
Mint Condition Cards is gonna go on hold whilst I play Silksong

[normal hollow]

damn

is this the best time to work on a joyousspring update then

[tidal terrace]

Mhm

[unborn plover]

Yoo nice.
I could buy it but...
I still haven't finished hollow knight

[wraith seal]

what the fuck

[limpid lake]

so did fusion jokers
I'm not sure why people do it like that

[wraith seal]

why is context.check_enhancement run EVERY frame when a joker is highlighted???

[hard plank]

:3

[unborn plover]

Cuz...............................
Idk

[normal hollow]

aiko accept my friend request

[hard plank]

i saw the fr

[blissful brook]

HARD

[unborn plover]

I do wonder if it's possible to apply a shader to the letters...

[forest knoll]

it's the default, you have to put in (admittedly only a little bit of) work to get a file loading system set up

[frigid mica]

I remember when you was conflicted

[normal hollow]

is it?

[frigid mica]

This good enough?

[blissful brook]

I used bunco to learn how to use take_ownership...🥀

[wraith seal]

idk i put print(context) in eval_card and it seems to be printing out check_enhancement = true every frame

actually it might be an ortalab thing, i will check

[normal hollow]

huh

[unborn plover]

Like the foil or polychrome shader to the characters...

It would be cool

[wraith seal]

would honestly explain why the uhh cards flew around the entire screen a bit if thats the case lol

[unborn plover]

Hey N' do you think it's possible to do that?

[latent crescent]

Actually, 4-6 looks better than 1-3

[normal hollow]

dont ask me about graphics stuff idk

[unborn plover]

Oh, well this stinks

[wraith seal]

theres this thing that prints out continuously when the joker is highlighted too but maybe thats related to something

[hard plank]

i just wanna be silly

[latent crescent]

I'm planning to do collection of various balatro UI components in future

[hard plank]

my mod is serious but i stay silly

[normal hollow]

that's is_eternal

[wraith seal]

this shit lags my game SO HORRENDOUSLY its insane

like i know its bad already but

[limpid lake]

I'm never serious but I'm always sincere 🐱

[wraith seal]

dropping from 50 fps to 3 is something else 😭

[hard plank]

wtf is this button

[normal hollow]

i removed some SMODS.is_eternal checks because it was bad for performance lol

[wraith seal]

mm ic

[wraith seal]

easter egg...

[normal hollow]

ghost button

[hard plank]

@west hill 😭

[terse portal]

the scrunkly

[limpid lake]

where does the seed field appear if you check seeded run? ... cause if it's there, that's a terrible place

[unborn plover]

Welp, time to play acecraft

[limpid lake]

okay that makes more sense

[latent crescent]

This is "back" button, but rn it's inactive

[unkempt current]

It's an unused button where you select a new feature called "background" which acts like a sleeve and changes your bg :chuzz_troll:

[west hill]

It used to cause a crash 😛

[wraith seal]

IT IS AN ORTALAB THING 😭

[hard plank]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[latent crescent]

oh no

[jaunty galleon]

days since incredibly stupid game journalism incident: 0

[frigid mica]

Hey bepis

[wraith seal]

eremel why do you run so many check_enhancement contexts during blinds 🤔

and specifically when jokers are highlighted too

[jaunty galleon]

anyways, balatro should be $70

[normal hollow]

they are not real people

[frigid mica]

What do you think about the card now?

[west hill]

Wdym

[wraith seal]

im printing out all the contexts going through eval_card to test something

[jaunty galleon]

there’s several articles on this

[wraith seal]

highlighting a joker during blinds print out check_enhancement = true a lot

[west hill]

Oh my if statement is ordered badly

[latent crescent]

Why quantum enhancements called on card hover

[normal hollow]

yeah no game journalist is a real human being that has played a videogame before

[wraith seal]

i wonder if it would also fix the dragging cards issue lol

[west hill]

You should totally use my context function to do this btw

[wraith seal]

🤔 which context function

[west hill]

Just put Ortalab.context(context) iirc

Makes it actually readable

[jaunty galleon]

also journos don’t fucking care about the indie scene, why even pretend like it’s a debate people are having? vampire survivors was a hit and was super super cheap for the amount of content in it. it didn’t change pricing much, i think. journos just want that silksong money

[wraith seal]

o

[latent crescent]

Btw no one was complain about Balatro's price

[full edge]

The argument's dumb regardless, but I've seen a lot of indie metroidvania devs feel like they're forced to lower their prices

[wraith seal]

its like every frame whenever a joker is highlighted lmao, im p sure its an oversight though :p

accidentally finding an ortalab bug while making my mod

[latent crescent]

Isnt this supposed to be called only in calculating process

quantum ranks maybe kinda makes sense

But enhancements..

[wraith seal]

oh dang thats smart, im snatching it :3

thanks eremel

[west hill]

Damn why can’t I react

[hard plank]

eremel

how do i check for zodiac

like when it's created

[fickle elbow]

I can't either

[full edge]

Still works for me

[normal hollow]

it makes sense for it to be called at other times, like when selecting a card to see if it's wild or stone for poker hand calculations (not every frame obviously)

[tidal terrace]

Roles

[latent crescent]

eh?

Oh because I have Steam role

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[latent crescent]

I see

[full edge]

I have the steam role too tho

[wraith seal]

oh the recursive thing i was trying to fix was because of that ortalab bug

sob

[fickle elbow]

Oh yea i can react now

[unkempt current]

Whenever I want to play bejeweled twist I keep clicking on balatro instead

Addiction at it's finest

[west hill]

Uhhh hook one of the functions

[tidal terrace]

You’re a civil chatter too

[wraith seal]

no wait nvm it wasnt, just that returning stuff causes the game to freak out....

[forest knoll]

i can react and i'm not a civil chatter

[full edge]

Thanks man

[hard plank]

i have never played hollow knight

[latent crescent]

Aiko, no spoilers

Just in case

[wraith seal]

hm

[tidal terrace]

It’s recommended to play the first game before playing it’s sequel

Just saying

[fickle elbow]

I have not finished hollow knight (about to open that game)

[plush hound]

https://youtu.be/9agt18c_V1U?si=0xj2xOKnU_OtwaSm

[latent crescent]

[plush hound]

is this moddable or not

[hard plank]

fair

[wraith seal]

watdafaq

[plush hound]

LMAO

[north salmon]

fuck you
unburns your joker

[distant badge]

who is this

[wraith seal]

if i have to guess it increases hand size by +1 when you sell a card?

thats so fucking busted 😭

[plush hound]

i forgot nostalgic deck is based on early ver of balatro where it shares the same slot, jokers and consumables

[north salmon]

chat is this permanent

[distant badge]

why is the shop so small...

[main agate]

#1412503847389364335 message update out go play it

[lost bolt]

"Most played hand starts at lvl.3"

[plush hound]

EXACTLY

[distant badge]

nxkoo... 2 days

[plush hound]

im bringing back the demo shop for horsechicot

[distant badge]

tick tock tick tock... the hot potato is calling nxkoo

[unborn plover]

I would have done it that increases the hand's size every 3 sold cards.
(Quantity required increases by 1 after the hand size is increased)

[distant badge]

silver spoon comes back

[plush hound]

oh it will

[unborn plover]

Silver spoon fans when uuuh... copper fork shows up?

[wraith seal]

is gold stake even beatable with this kind of price

😭

$16???

[plush hound]

SIXTEEN????

[tidal terrace]

To be fair it’s a parallel story but idk if they explain the story and the old lore in silksong giving it’s relatively new but enjoy yourself with the gameplay

[unborn plover]

Me when no econ jokers

[wraith seal]

golden joker is fucking $6

help

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[plush hound]

cpuld be different stat

[unborn plover]

Try cloud 9

[distant badge]

also i just noticed this

[lost bolt]

i mean i made it into a different voucher with the same name

[plush hound]

this is sixth sense

[unborn plover]

Or delayed gratification depending on the deck you have rn

[distant badge]

bro got an upgrade

[tidal terrace]

Trying to make tags balanced first tag i made spawns a legendary in shop -> modding influence

[unborn plover]

Cryptid surely has an effect on modders

[unborn plover]

Also hi S

[tidal terrace]

Hello pumpkin man

[tidal terrace]

Is the next tier a comically large spoon

[lost bolt]

i wish

[tidal terrace]

[unborn plover]

Copper spoon

[latent crescent]

@tidal terrace which mod I should working on, because I have options

[hard plank]

silksong will kill hotpot development?

[unborn plover]

Would give the 5% of the current money at the end of the round

[tidal terrace]

State your options

[frigid mica]

Final product

[latent crescent]

1. Balatro UI components collection
2. Handy update
3. Mod with mechanics from Dicey Dungeons

[plush hound]

DICEY

[frigid mica]

Lost in Random?

Oh.

[tidal terrace]

I wanna see you make a mod
I think handy is in a good stable state and everyone just uses handy for fast hand selection

Can you elaborate on the ui component collection?

[north salmon]

are there any balatro goes kino players here

[plush hound]

me

[north salmon]

how the fuck do spells work

> "Cast the next spell"
> does NOTHING

[latent crescent]

Just write snippers for different UI stuff so you can copy-paste this code and make UI more easily

[tidal terrace]

Ask the mod creator

[tidal terrace]

Ahh i see

[hard plank]

this looks off

[tidal terrace]

I think that could wait

[wraith seal]

are they from balatro goes kino

[latent crescent]

So Dicey Dungeons

[tidal terrace]

I named the mod fanfare by the way

[north salmon]

yeah

[hard plank]

what mod

[tidal terrace]

[normal hollow]

@full edge

[latent crescent]

Okay, how I should call this mod

Most difficult part

[normal hollow]

paradice

[tidal terrace]

Remember when i asked you for a mod name for bingo and you said balling

[tidal terrace]

Cinema

[latent crescent]

Baladice

[hard plank]

ah

[unborn plover]

I don't know why but I love implementing %'s into balatro.
Makes the game more mathematical.

[tidal terrace]

Sounds cute

[lost bolt]

golden spoon (pretend it says $3)

[hard plank]

my mod

[lost bolt]

clearly tier3 should be comically large spoon

[unborn plover]

What the fuck

[latent crescent]

In this case BalaDice will be temp name, we'll see in future for final name

[hard plank]

have you played it yet

[tidal terrace]

American deck

Why are you replying to sleepy

Lol

[latent crescent]

Bad timing ig

[blissful brook]

FREEDOM deck

[tidal terrace]

[blissful brook]

Chaos, chaos

Aikoyori can code anything

[tidal terrace]

The glazing is crazy

[main agate]

you could play solitaire on that

[tidal terrace]

Does he know

[blissful brook]

He doesn't know

[hard plank]

funny that you mentioned that

[frigid mica]

Now they’re actually craters

[frigid mica]

Don’t you mean…

[frigid mica]

Klondike?

[tidal terrace]

Cat face

[main agate]

KlonWHAAT

[latent crescent]

Aiko what's your canonic clothes?

[blissful brook]

Solitaire variant

[hard plank]

this was never decided

[blissful brook]

Or smth

[main agate]

i know 💔

[hard plank]

people call it solitaire

[tidal terrace]

Why brown

[tidal terrace]

Spreading mods propaganda

[full edge]

Press S

Spells shouldn't do nothing. There's a chance you just missed their visual effects, unless there is a bug I'm unaware of

[torn urchin]

Finally

Anyways good morning chat

[main agate]

add my awesome grapple worm effect for real for real

[blissful brook]

Balatro goes kino: press s

[north salmon]

ok it's just the 10 rings film joker specifically

it has some really weird triggering rules

either that or im even more blind that i know

[lost inlet]

feel like i should not be trying to make a million changes just to make aikoshen fun to play with my mod

[main agate]

scrumptious

[north salmon]

also doctor strange doesn't tell if +2 hands is permanent or not

[tidal terrace]

It’s already pirates btw

[latent crescent]

aka not protected

[tidal terrace]

LOL

[full edge]

I'll check it out, it should just work. Spells trigger normally, like a joker effect, so it just triggers in the row of jokers, in order

[hard plank]

aikoyori shenanigans vs

[main agate]

wasnt it released on gog

[full edge]

All spells share the same trigger

[main agate]

which is drm free

[worn bone]

the rot consumes

[tidal terrace]

Anything on steam isn’t safe

[north salmon]

wtf popeye and shining share an actor?

[main agate]

yeah but on gog it is

gog's whole thing is that all games are drm free

[lost inlet]

mod that attempts to expand endless mode
fairly obvious why this would cause uh. issues

[full edge]

Yes, the main actress in both is Shelley Duvall

But I'll check Shang chi, there's always the chance it's bugged

[north salmon]

also @full edge please add a way to tell film's actors

[hard plank]

i don't know

should i force players to be on adequate if you have multiplayer on

[lost inlet]

i'd say probably not

[full edge]

I'll consider it, but the actor synergy stuff is really only there to reward real film nerds, more so than being a core mechanic haha

[north salmon]

also either popeye's power boost is bugged or power boost description is

popeye is boosted by synergy so it should give 120% boost

but description says it's x2 (100% boost)

[main agate]

3 unique visitors but 15 unique cloners apparently

github analytics confuse me

[wanton rapids]

could be cloned from balatro mod manager?

[north salmon]

what.

[main agate]

ive never used that so i cant say