wait you guys optimize performance? i just make balatro cry
#⚙・modding-general
astral vapor
sleek granite
i do wonder if TOGApack just hits like a complexity ceiling with all this other shit going on
storm forum
When simply selecting a card?
deft ore
wait you guys optimize performance? i just make balatro cry
i optimize performance when i write the code in the sense i try to make it not awful
astral vapor
i do wonder if TOGApack just hits like a complexity ceiling with all this other ...
togapack fucks with your system
forest knoll
there's not much that fills the specific niche of "big numbers" + "takes itself seriously" nowadays, maybe vallkarri
i know mayhem is also aiming for big numbers, but to me it comes off as a little self-deprecating/overly ironic/idk how to describe the way it feels exactly but it definitely doesn't take itself seriously like cryptid does
sleek granite
so i think part of it is that contexts are getting called
deft ore
if anything happens after too fucking bad
astral vapor
i optimize performance when i write the code in the sense i try to make it not a...
i do the exact opposite!
deft ore
there's not much that fills the specific niche of "big numbers" + "takes itself ...
i havent personally played it but maybe aikoshen absurd?
sleek granite
well i have nothing better to do for an hour lets enable TOGAs and turn mods on one by one til something breaks
forest knoll
i havent personally played it but maybe aikoshen absurd?
aikoshen leans more towards gimmicky with the whole letter cards thing, although true it does have emult and similar stuff on absurd
deft ore
i'm not super qualified for this kind of question because i dont do big number mods as a concept
astral vapor
cryptid addons
my mod requires talisman yet doesn't do any big number shit
lost bolt
side note acensio has crazy good art
forest knoll
evil
sleek granite
my mod requires talisman't just in case
deft ore
just write to_big = to_big or function(x) return x end
sleek granite
just in case they break the mod fundamentally again
hard plank
i think i might get s2?+ after all
sleek granite
just in case they corrupt everyone's save files again
just in case talisman fucking sucks
deft ore
side note acensio has crazy good art
a shame acensio is stuck as a cryptid addon
hard plank
i like me big screen
deft ore
just in case talisman fucking sucks
just in case 1 + 1 = 2
hard plank
i don't think i can go back to small screen
lost bolt
a shame acensio is stuck as a cryptid addon
well the entire mod is exotic jokers
yahimod is uh
big numbers sometimes i think
but its a "on its own" mod
i think
deft ore
yahimod is more shitposty than big numbers
sleek granite
im big numbers if you use my jokers
astral vapor
i dont know what my mod is classified as
forest knoll
play exposlop for funny big numbers, coming never
hard plank
I'll give yahimod credit where it's due some of the stuff in there is pretty cool
it has a LOT of gimmicks
astral vapor
i dont know what my mod is classified as
because i just add some jokers, decks, enhancements, and vouchers
and all my numberslop jokers are locked behind being legendaries
deft ore
it has a LOT of gimmicks
from aikoyori "gimmicks" shenanigans?
hard plank
from aikoyori "gimmicks" shenanigans?
yahimod has more gimmicks than me
deft ore
what are you classifying as "gimmick" also
calm bridge
funny interaction
hard plank
i think i go by "mechanics subverting expectations from a normal mod"
deft ore
this implies that the fish blind is a gimmick
calm bridge
better crop
quartz wasp
my mod is gimmickslop im afraid
sleek granite
hmmmm
deft ore
you just have to make sure they're high quality gimmicks
calm bridge
what kind of slop is this
hard plank
I'm going back to make a reveal trailer for shenanigans
lost bolt
words
woven crag
word soup
deft ore
word bomb
woven crag
Get rid of Word Bomb!
wraith seal
what kind of slop is this
+1/2 hand size
calm bridge
you get 2 it gives you +1
storm forum
-# ...god, last time I actually put effort into a trailer was long ago...
calm bridge
hard plank
@harsh glacier guts
calm bridge
I also did some jlonkers for my friends :)
storm forum
-# ...god, last time I actually put effort into a trailer was long ago...
https://youtu.be/eSsUoyDSwAI&t=593
-# Good times...
quartz wasp
isnt this just you can never die
presumably you lose if your hand size hits 0
deft ore
presumably you lose if your hand size hits 0
you would lose but then it prevents death
calm bridge
hand size hitting 0 is instant gameover
no way out
the frame you enter a blind you're done
deft ore
it would be but it saves you from death
quartz wasp
i thought that prevents death interacted differently with 0 handsize / mill loses
calm bridge
it will save you if your score's not beating the ante
deft ore
i dont think it does
woven orchid
standard death prevention only triggers when you have no hands or some instant lose condition applies from a blind i believe
losing from no hand size should bypass that
calm bridge
if you have enough hand size you could even fight a boss as long as you have cards in hand
last stand type deal
quartz wasp
i just tested it and mr bones does not save you from a mill loss so yea
hard plank
I'll make the high score challenge it's own save file
astral vapor
boss blind called "fuck you"
sets hands and discards to 0
deft ore
damn
hard plank
is that good enough
calm bridge
calm bridge
whats your mod
quartz wasp
paradox's ideas
lost bolt
now i can start shilling it
Does it work with tailsman
deft ore
Does it work with tailsman
yes
storm forum
https://github.com/TheOneGoofAli/TOGAPackBalatro/issues/7 Wouldn't be the first time.
hard plank
i think i know what direction i want to take the trailer in
i can see the vision in my head
and also the music i want to use
woven orchid
https://github.com/TheOneGoofAli/TOGAPackBalatro/issues/7 Wouldn't be the first ...
why does every mod ever conflict with cardsauce
is it that impressive
storm forum
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sleek granite
oh damn
that might literally be the issue i am dumb
im just not getting a whole stack overflow its stopping at some point before that
which makes me wonder if there is some stack overflow prevention going on and its just set really high before it triggers :v
storm forum
...this is my largest one that I have in calculate... of a deck.
local iter, iterlimit = 0, 65535 -- Just so we don't freeze the game.
while G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices.Boss == 'bl_psychic' do
G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices.Boss = get_new_boss()
iter = iter + 1
if togabalatro.config.DoMoreLogging then sendInfoMessage("Iteration "..iter.." of "..iterlimit.." rolling for non-Psychic boss blinds.", "TOGAPack") end
if iter >= iterlimit then break end
end
grand geode
since when did loc_vars get called again with a fake card
oh i might be dumb question mark?
okay that probably works
sleek granite
alright i think ive successfully fucked any semblance of sensibility the main menu had
woven orchid
good lord
exotic belfry
😭
woven orchid
maximus goes kino (also try TOGA's stuff, which you are!)
sleek granite
lily i add 101 splashes
exotic belfry
Ortalab edition
woven orchid
lily i add 101 splashes
hood lord
storm forum
alright i think ive successfully fucked any semblance of sensibility the main me...
-# finally.
sleek granite
i still get some minor spikes when selecting cards but it's nowhere near as bad
event queue shoots up to fuckin 500
storm forum
🤷
-# I can't help much.
woven orchid
straight up investigating it
sleek granite
but id rather have togas over cardsauce since i only get like 40% of it (im not a diehard vinesaucer)
grand geode
okay since when the fuck did it call loc_vars outside my generate_ui????????????
hello???? smods jank???
storm forum
I suppose you also could attempt to exclude other files loaded by my main script to see which one still adds to impact?
sleek granite
yeah,
i think i'd rather switch gears to devving my own stuff at the moment though, since it's at least deal-with-able now
storm forum
✌️
sleek granite
i can confirm it's not a TOGA's standalone issue
i just don't know what's getting its wires crossed
storm forum
-# Wires should not be crossed, but mods should be.
woven orchid
cross my wires
sleek granite
i gotta figure out how to even cross TOGA's it's cool
woven orchid
start an electrical fire
storm forum
cross my wires
sleek granite
i guess there's always enhancement support stuff
woven orchid
of course
wanton rapids
joker that sets your pc on fire if the score is on fire
woven orchid
joker that gets set on fire if your score gets set on fire
he's immune to fire, though
wanton rapids
burnt joker....
sleek granite
ash joker......
woven orchid
so he just sits there and burns and it kinda stings him a little bit but he does not care
woven orchid
burnt joker....
but he is burnt at all times
woven orchid
for fnu
plush hound
rare instance of myst crashout
woven orchid
im going to give you 3 haircuts simultaneously
sleek granite
yay
grand geode
oh cool it just never passes the real card to generate_ui
i love the smods i live in
strange kernel
grand geode
okay nevermind apparently i just wrote a wrong number???????
storm forum
...something about graveyard... the Microsoft product graveyard...
grand geode
graveyard like
sleek granite
well if it'd be for jokers that's the joyousspring GY but maybe i could 3way cross
stark shale
prismatic deck is stupidly strong, 2 suit joker deadass carried me until ante 7
sleek granite
oh thats
storm forum
...that's not a 7 visually.
Snecko Eye calling SMODS.change_base, which is hooked to force rank change for Certificate Server...
sleek granite
oooo
woven orchid
i love extending Moveable!
storm forum
...the deck view properly reflects the change.
Scrapper could be given the plentiful amount of "metals" from mine to work with.
sleek granite
makes me think set_sprite isnt being called when it should be... is that on the person doing change_base?
oh i think i did that actually i made the CardQuality system and then never remembered to port old stuff to it oops
woven orchid
i Love when it renders!
storm forum
I should probably split OreDict off eventually...
sleek granite
this is a bit more abstract than oredict would be
this was made for stacked effects primarily
storm forum
-# Also a valid point.
sleek granite
they can choose a random card quality to scale from/benefit off of
but i could make cardqualities for oredict entries also? probably?
storm forum
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just kinda made it for myself so that I have a simple table of tables to point to.
ember surge
i Love when it renders!
what is that 
ace
woven orchid
the Lily deck skin
storm forum
...my hook causing it?
ember surge
i love that
woven orchid
hearts as well
-# spades are identical to clubs, diamonds are identical to hearts
sleek granite
snecko eye is definitely one of those things i coded once, tested once, and called it good on lol
ember surge
the Lily deck skin
where i can get it
woven orchid
it is not currently public
sleek granite
oh i think i am just obscenely stupid
ember surge
it is not currently public
woven orchid
probably will be at one point but it's not my creation and the person who did make it has left the balatro community so
sleek granite
yeah i think snecko eye is just bugged
woven orchid
probably will be at one point but it's not my creation and the person who did ma...
not wholely my call
ember surge
probably will be at one point but it's not my creation and the person who did ma...
oh that explains something
storm forum
...what about passing SMODS.Ranks to the pseudorandom_element?
woven orchid
uummm is anyone aware of any mods that add new objects that extend Moveable
kinda clueless rn and its not like everyone and their mom is extending Moveable to make the next big feature of balatro modding
sleek granite
my mom is extending moveable
woven orchid
i'd be delighted to hear more( 
)
ember surge
uummm is anyone aware of any mods that add new objects that extend Moveable
wtf is extended moveable
woven orchid
sleek granite
...what about passing `SMODS.Ranks` to the `pseudorandom_element`?
this makes it do actually nothing
ok so it works in a vacuum
now to test the cert thingy
torn urchin
Is that a new rank
sleek granite
yeah apostle from paperback
full edge
kinda clueless rn and its not like everyone and their mom is extending Moveable ...
what are you looking for specifically? Issue is most likely that if you're extending Moveable you're doing something very fundamental, because almost every object in the game's extended from moveable
sleek granite
Ice
full edge
Ooooooh, sick
woven orchid
what are you looking for specifically? Issue is most likely that if you're exten...
anything that renders really
i can figure out how to modify it to my desires but i mostly need to figure out what's necessary to make a non-card object render a sprite properly since card.lua is .., a lot😭
full edge
Shame the counters don't properly align
storm forum
-# All those pixelated sprites and then there's smooth box art of 95.
sleek granite
yeah lol
woven orchid
anything that renders really
i can figure out how to modify it to my desires ...
i also ideally would like to cut out the things i copied from card.lua that will be unnecessary to me
full edge
anything that renders really
i can figure out how to modify it to my desires ...
My understanding is that you'd want to add a draw function to your new object type
sleek granite
how do i add something to the logo like that
simple: 
full edge
and then hook that draw function into the game's general draw
astral vapor
like i want to put something up there above the balatro logo
sleek granite
oh thats even easier you just have to 
woven orchid
and then hook that draw function into the game's general draw
ohh
astral vapor
oh thats even easier you just have to <:programming:1228461378529001596>
people refuse to help and y'all wonder why i use jonker forg
sleek granite
ok but the thing is
woven orchid
yeaahh making the object type render in game:draw sounds like something that you would Have to do
sleek granite
it actually sucks so fucking much
full edge
The exact order isn't something I know by heart, but in setting up counters, I've come to accept that adding very fundamental objecttypes just means you're going to have to test to see if specific behaviour happens, and then figure out why it's not happening
The main thing is that if you're extending Moveable, nothing will be ran automatically. Basically every functionality you add will need to be patched or hooked into another function so it runs
storm forum
Either way, a potential idea brews off of the playing card graveyard.
sleek granite
👀
full edge
Recycle bin joker
astral vapor
it actually sucks so fucking much
like how much suckage?
storm forum
...already is a thing.
torn urchin
What would a Teto enhancement do
astral vapor
What would a Teto enhancement do
teto,
torn urchin
Idk anymore
sleek granite
like how much suckage?
torn urchin
Autumn
storm forum
-# ...but what if there were two of them...
full edge
yeaahh making the object type render in game:draw sounds like something that you...
What are you setting up btw that you're wanting to extend moveable but are basing your code off of card.lua?
sleek granite
tbf it's because i'm randomizing the playing card and then every joker slightly
woven orchid
What are you setting up btw that you're wanting to extend moveable but are basin...
see this is the part where i become really annoying for other people because i wanted to keep the main content of this mod a secret until i finished the 3 main mechanics
astral vapor
All i wanna do is add "MiLKY's" at the top next to my logo
woven orchid
card was just the first moveable that came to mind and they have some parallels
sleek granite
check blinds?
astral vapor
Ice
so then we get "milky's ortalab maximus shenanigans goes kino: game of the year edition"
sleek granite
they're probably simpler than cards
woven orchid
oh true
full edge
I guess the main thing to ask is whether it's got any complex functions, or whether the object is really meant to just be visual and moveable, haha
Because otherwise, I'd extend SMODS.GameObject
astral vapor
Because otherwise, I'd extend SMODS.GameObject
smods gaming
woven orchid
the only functionality ill have is
drawing on the screen
having a click function
allowing multiple at once
sleek granite
i feel like youd rather have GameObject yeah
woven orchid
alright
sleek granite
it gets some of the overhead out of the way for you
woven orchid
im glad i didnt invest too much time into moveable then lmao
full edge
You want gameobject if you want multiple specific ones. It'll help dealing with creating modded objects that get loaded in properly
wraith seal
am i cooked if each of my joker has like 9 effects minimum
full edge
Because if you extend moveable, you're going to have to set up the loading for it in the way that vanilla handles it, while gameobject already handles a bunch of stuff for you
full edge
am i cooked if each of my joker has like 9 effects minimum
you're cooking and everything bagel
woven orchid
i mean its not like im going to have multiple different variants of it ,probably
but extending gameobject will still make my life easier i think
full edge
Also stops you from having to figure out you assumed a specific function was build in, only to realize that's something smods does for ya, haha
sleek granite
unfortunately +mult was found dead in miami (it didnt actually work very well and had major bugs)
wraith seal
+mult..
full edge
does miami have major bugs? like big mosquitos?
woven orchid
does miami have major bugs? like big mosquitos?
yeah i heard they attempt to index nil there
sleek granite
no it has high ranking military personnel stationed there who happen to be moths
full edge
general mothman 🫡
full edge
major mothman 🫡
I'm not American so their military hierarchy is entirely unclear to me
sleek granite
yeah once upon a time i knew it for school probably
woven orchid
i could hypothetically do what i want to do with a card i realize
but then it would be janky and dumb
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-# We janking it.
woven orchid
postulating
woven orchid
-# We janking it.
ref, can he say this?
full edge
I recommend using a card for stuff that's not incredibly fundamental
I've set up Counters to be an entirely new object, and it took a while for me to work out most of the jank for them, honestly
sleek granite
im countering it
woven orchid
😭
sleek granite
i should still make xchips counter
woven orchid
it cant possibly be that bad right 
full edge
It's not that it's difficult, it's just that there's no proper documentation so unless you're already very, very familiar with how SMODS sets things up, you're going to be learning how to set up a lot of basic functionality to properly work
woven orchid
i love learni ng
sleek granite
ppl should add shit to the top right of cards actually
full edge
Hahahaha, god, that's barely a card at that point
torn urchin
Teto sticker
full edge
i love learni ng
Also, if your thing is really just a fancy button that's able to be clicked... Why not just use UIBox and make it a button?
woven orchid
ppl should add shit to the top right of cards actually
holy christ there's nothing left
sleek granite
yeah a lot of these turn into "barely a card"
full edge
Chained, locked, countered and cursed
woven orchid
Also, if your thing is really just a fancy button that's able to be clicked... W...
to be real with you i dont actually have a wholely good reason but i also dont know if a ui button would look the best
full edge
to be real with you i dont actually have a wholely good reason but i also dont k...
It'd look like whatever you want it to look like, tbh
sleek granite
apparently this is an apostle somehow
full edge
Wait until I add held items to jokers, and from there also add held items to playing cards, and we're truly gaming
woven orchid
ill see if i can get it working how i want with a ui button
hopefully the game has no qualms with drawing a lot of buttons on the screen at the same time
full edge
apparently this is an apostle somehow
hmm, it's two counters, that's odd
sleek granite
oh you right
full edge
That might be an issue on my end, though
woven orchid
count up
full edge
Also, I keep forgetting I should fix investment counters
sleek granite
ice you should use shorter line breaks tbh
between "Ticks Around 42" and the descriptions.... i usually go for "{s:0.15} ", myself but
full edge
Also, also, I need to add a separate remove function to counters that gets triggered when the card is removed, rather than the counter
Splitting lines in two is half the stuff that gets updated whenever I patch Kino, haha, I'm terrible at making lines short enough
So I'll definitely shorten it
sleek granite
i mean the empty line
woven orchid
ive dedicated a solid 5% of my entire brain to consistent balatro formatting
woven orchid
I tend to forget {s:x} is even an option
forget WHAT is an option ??!?!?
sorru pleasae obliterate me
woven orchid
uh, that's not kino?? that's balatro goes
not sure what youre on, ice
i'm sure this joke gets funnier every time you hear it
full edge
uh, that's not kino?? that's balatro goes
not sure what youre on, ice
You can't ask me what I'm on, that's private information between me and my doctor
sleek granite
sorru pleasae obliterate me
ok
woven orchid
You can't ask me what I'm on, that's private information between me and my docto...
if i get my doctorate can i know
full edge
my doctor
woven orchid
who's to say i'm not your doctor
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...Termimal.
torn urchin
Pretty
summer geyser
yeah a lot of these turn into "barely a card"
That isn't a card, that's a Object™
woven orchid
lmao
west hatch
woven orchid
for some reason there are two now
harsh glacier
<@565858208497926169> guts
ok
woven orchid
the edition is just The joker wears My halo now
sleek granite
kitby
sleek granite
yeah i recognized lmao
woven orchid
except for the ominous other halo
harsh glacier
for some reason there are two now
is the halo being added as a drawstep
dont forget to add the sprite variable name to SMODS.draw_ignore_keys
woven orchid
oh ty
sleek granite
baller
woven orchid
i should make an edition that just puts a random small joker on top of the original card
it would appear that unless the card starts with the edition it doesnt actually run draw i guess
full edge
for some reason there are two now
Oh, I had this issue too with literally this exact concept, haha
I also had an additional halo appear
sleek granite
i wonder if theres some jank with sprites being set considering that snecko eye issue earlier i had
woven orchid
you sir are not very lordly
full edge
I don't remember the details of how I resolved it, honestly. I think it had to do with me setting the sprite twice accidentally due to how the draw code works
woven orchid
dont forget to add the sprite variable name to SMODS.draw_ignore_keys
the problem with the dual drawing was solved for me here
ya the edition's draw function just doesn't run in every case ive seen except for the collection 😭
im just going to go to bed since it's 1 am anyway
lavish pike
probably will be at one point but it's not my creation and the person who did ma...
I can make it public if you want. Its yours and It takes me only a few seconds
lavish pike
holy jumpscare
?
woven orchid
i did not expect you to reply i thought you left balatro related servers because i never thought to check lmao
summer geyser
you sir are not very lordly
BEHOLD! MY 80 CHIPS!
lavish pike
i did not expect you to reply i thought you left balatro related servers because...
This is the only balatro server I have because it isnt all modding
Id never leave the fan art page
woven orchid
lavish pike
Ok ill test to see if my mod is idiot proof if it for the public and I should be done
wanton rapids
you sir are not very lordly
lordly sounds like a really mediocre mobile game
frigid mica
What kind of joker would Asriel Dreemurr be?
lavish pine
you know asriel edgy emo ass would make a legendary^2 joker that gives you x9999 mult and x9999 chips and 999 dollar
storm forum
Need opinion.
quartz wasp
What kind of joker would Asriel Dreemurr be?
Round chips and mult up to the nearest number consisting entirely of 9s
quartz wasp
Need opinion.
How many probabilities do you have in your mod?
quartz wasp
2% of 5 is 0.1 and 2% of 15 is 0.3 so you'd gain X0.35 per lucky card right?
quartz wasp
If this is legendary I think it's probably reasonable as is?
full edge
The poster tries to look like it's sown, so an attempt at the same effect
quartz wasp
The poster tries to look like it's sown, so an attempt at the same effect
Looks great
lavish pike
I did it
The mod will be public by request when I pick colours
Its not loading now
help
Oh I know what happened
I pasted the credits code into my main.lua
full edge
i enjoy that your name is on the logo of kino btw
gotta make sure to market myself, ofc
lavish pike
I tried to do her fav colours
sleek granite
those who grab
full edge
268/319 textures. I think I'll get them all done before the month's over
lavish pike
https://github.com/Gud-username/That-one-mod-that-im-letting-a-cat-use/releases/tag/public-release
You can make any of your playing cards into the lily
sleek granite
fuck yeah
lavish pike
Here is the preview or smth idk
lavish pike
oh did I not fix that on github
dense egret
bonjour
lavish pike
ok on it
@sleek granite go go gadget typo
Also made this
I ended up giving them an extra thick outline on the outside
fallow bramble
those who grab
We're grabbing this bag 💪
full edge
I wonder if it's good practice for API stuff to just wrap stuff in additional functions so there's a smaller risk of me changing the set up affecting people that would be using the API 🤔
sleek granite
yes
that also then becomes entry points for hooks and stuff for people to do more... esoteric things with the API also
full edge
I guess it's time to add a bunch of additional helper functions to the Counter API then, haha
Oh, yeah, that's a good point
I'm changing how counter stuff is stored on card to circumvent some visual jank, and I'm realizing I can only permit myself to do it this way because there's at best 3 people risking use of Counters, haha
sleek granite
i havent actually done anything with them yet so break your changes as you please
dreamy abyss
i fucking love deck skins
how come the paperback suits dont have that weird outline but the eyes and brights do
torn urchin
Genius
full edge
oh wow managed to just make all the counters disappear instead of making it work ❤️
sleek granite
how come the paperback suits dont have that weird outline but the eyes and brigh...
that... is an interesting point?
torn urchin
Aura
sleek granite
it doesnt look like they do anything special
full edge
the outline's entirely due to the sprite, no?
torn urchin
Style points
sleek granite
what if i just rip this white border off the brights cards
torn urchin
I feel like shit
harsh glacier
that... is an interesting point?
its a bug with how balala renders those
sleek granite
this is without having a white border
harsh glacier
specifically with how it handles transparent pixels
sleek granite
ohhhh
sleek granite
so wait if i use FFFFFF00 instead it'll look better
harsh glacier
there's a (python) script that actually handles this
its been shared around but theres one on the mf repo
as well as bunco's
torn urchin
Wake up
sleek granite
evil python
torn urchin
It's the first of the month
sleek granite
i will do it myself
torn urchin
🕺💃🕺💃
sleek granite
kills you with hammers
torn urchin
Yes please
sleek granite
ohhhhh you have to fucking opt into saving the color value of transparent pixels in gimp
ok that was probably my fault to begin with
ta-da
harsh glacier
ohhhhh you have to fucking opt into saving the color value of transparent pixels...
gimp user
sleek granite
i will
full edge
I should commit time to actually fixing that for Kino, it's happening to a bunch of sprites
sleek granite
:3
you can't tell me that the game renders shit it shouldn't and not expect me to use that for added visual flair
full edge
Oooh, that's really clever
Does the colour that bleeds through just depend on what colour the transparent pixel is when it's alpha is set to full?
sleek granite
yea
its just blurring the colours without regard for the transparency i get it now
storm forum
-# I've literally spent 2 hours brainstorming a replacement rework for a Joker that I just reworked... might've landed on something...
full edge
Very cool idea
full edge
-# I've literally spent 2 hours brainstorming a replacement rework for a Joker t...
Haha what's the original version, of what's the rework that's being reworked?
hard plank
sorry
full edge
Sorry, Aiko 👋
torn urchin
-# I've literally spent 2 hours brainstorming a replacement rework for a Joker t...
-# wish I could do the same
sleek granite
i seeeeeee
torn urchin
-# I'm still thinking 😭
sleek granite
@dreamy abyss is this preferred
hard plank
Sorry, Aiko 👋
I'm so tired
sleek granite
i mean if you want something where i even had a hand in the art;
it is significantly less pretty
frigid mica
you know asriel edgy emo ass would make a legendary^2 joker that gives you x9999...
Really?
storm forum
Haha what's the original version, of what's the rework that's being reworked?
From retrigger scored cards, held in hand ability and Jokers once to halves denominators currently... and the new thing is likely to be unique enough.
torn urchin
Yum
dreamy abyss
i seeeeeee
this is good
storm forum
-# I just need to word this right.
torn urchin
I believe in you Ali <3
storm forum
...does this make sense?
wraith seal
does that mean +1 lv -> +2 lv or doubling the mult and chips gain
storm forum
Quite literally - +1 > +2
frigid mica
it doubles l_chips and l_mult?
storm forum
So a single planet card upgrades by 2 levels and Orbital Tags give 6 levels instead of 3.
'cause this sounds solid enough?
frigid mica
And +2 > +4
storm forum
*2 per copy.
wraith seal
its fine but i think the 1 in 4 is really dragging it down 🤔
frigid mica
I have a joker named Dark Donald (based off of MUGEN) that straight up levels up all poker hands by x2 if you play a flush.
I wanna simplify the code used for leveling up all poker hands
storm forum
Upgrading a poker hand with 64 levels from one card sounds bonkers.
wraith seal
like, i think perkeo is actually more consistent at duplicating planet cards and leveling your hands without oa6 lol
storm forum
'cause this can be copied by Blueprint and such.
wraith seal
mm
wraith seal
hmmmmm maybe its fine, yeah
frigid mica
I have no idea how to level up boss blinds actually
urban marsh
hey do i have to update steammodded?
wraith seal
level up boss blinds??
wraith seal
hey do i have to update steammodded?
yes
storm forum
...do you mean increasing G.GAME.blind.chips?
wraith seal
replace your smods folder with the new one
frigid mica
...do you mean increasing `G.GAME.blind.chips`?
Would be nice
For a joker that gives a rare consumable
storm forum
Specify conditions, then set G.GAME.blind.chips to desired value.
frigid mica
I plan to make a joker called Golden Freddy which gives a random rare consumable at the end of the round.
urban marsh
tyty
frigid mica
How do you spawn a rare consumable specifically?
wraith seal
check if the center has soul_set?
storm forum
-# Pushed commit & release, now I inhale the 'eepies.
frigid mica
I gotta brush, fuck
Wait, what’s the difference between not having context.main_eval and having context.main_eval?
wind turtle
Wait, what’s the difference between not having context.main_eval and having cont...
If you didn't have it, it would trigger twice for every card in hand.
frigid mica
If you didn't have it, it would trigger twice for every card in hand.
So that’s why
Ok let’s see, who do I have listed? Asriel Dreemurr, Golden Freddy…
hard plank
not really
frigid mica
The Second Coming too but i don't have any Mechanical Cards made yet
full edge
okay I think I fixed every remaining issue I still had with counters 🤔 Which means it's back to documenting
frigid mica
@summer geyser would you be conflicted if one of Neo’s abilities was replaced with the ability to level up all poker hands by 1?
How do I simplify Dark Donald’s poker hand level multiplication code?
digital moat
Is there a way to change the white background of cards? Trying to match my cards as close to 1:1 with the original Luigi Poker cards and i dunno if I can do that with just a regular smod deckskin function or if I would have to make this it's own separate deck to be able to do that
vale sage
i mean i think you can override the game's textures? not 100% sure though
north salmon
what's the mod that adds option to scroll through jokers?
full edge
Cartomancer
wind turtle
Is there a way to change the white background of cards? Trying to match my cards...
No, you would need to use a texture pack.
north salmon
Cartomancer
thanks
vale sage
hehehe
digital moat
No, you would need to use a texture pack.
is there a guide for making one of those? I don't remember seeing anything texture pack related in the smods wiki but maybe i missed somethin'
hard plank
wow
Ortalab actually shows you where the boss comes from
that's so nice
(why is this not SMODS feature)
fallow bramble
Eremel always put stuff in Ortalab first before SMODS lol
hard plank
true
latent crescent
Makes sense
blissful brook
Is there a way to change the white background of cards? Trying to match my cards...
It would conflict with enhancements
You can replace background of enhancements and base cards tho. But then you need to also make crossmod
digital moat
sorry for the dumb question but whats a crossmod?
blissful brook
Replace modded enhancements background
normal hollow
sorry for the dumb question but whats a crossmod?
when a mod adds a feature when another mod is installed
digital moat
when a mod adds a feature when another mod is installed
oh gotcha! doesn't seem like it would be too complicated (hopefully at least 🤞) so i'll give it a shot
plush hound
cross my mod, devs
normal hollow
if its just base cards it should be fine
harsh glacier
cross my mod, devs
blunder emoji
digital moat
if its just base cards it should be fine
yeah i don't wanna mess with any jokers, tarots, etc, it's only the cards you'd have in your deck that I'd wanna change the background for
full edge
oof, uploaded assets to the wiki in the wrong resolution 🥲
summer geyser
<@728589246528618517> would you be conflicted if one of Neo’s abilities was repl...
I'd be ok
like if neo was in the game I'm happy
sterile hornet
i am ortalabbing so hard right now
thats so ortalab of you
normal hollow
yo
normal hollow
i dont think so but ask discord.gg/balatromp
steel plinth
ty brother
hard plank
thats so ortalab of you
😭
sterile hornet
i am ortalabbing so hard right now
also Eremel FORGOT so if anyone has ortalab replace yer zodiac sprites with these newer slightly diff coloured ones
normal hollow
smh
full edge
classic eremel
hard plank
classic Eremel_
digital moat
question pt 2 electric boogaloo: if I wanted to publish/upload my mod somewhere what sites would you guys recommend? I was thinking Nexus Mods but i dunno how good/popular that is for Balatro modding
normal hollow
classic Shader Eremel_
sterile hornet
question pt 2 electric boogaloo: if I wanted to publish/upload my mod somewhere ...
we all use github shrug
eventually thunderstore in the future or something
latent crescent
also Eremel FORGOT so if anyone has ortalab replace yer zodiac sprites with thes...
That's so fire
hard plank
oh this thing has art now
hard plank
ohj that was sdm's mod with the same name
full edge
question pt 2 electric boogaloo: if I wanted to publish/upload my mod somewhere ...
I recommend using Github and submitting it to the Balatro Mod Manager index. I don't know of many mods that are on Nexus, honestly
distant badge
why did they kill the collatz conjecture
harsh glacier
so it never showed up
digital moat
eventually thunderstore in the future or something
thanks for the info! I'll definitely keep that in mind!
latent crescent
In nexus there's only like 550 balatro mods
hard plank
this is cool
sterile hornet
why did they kill the collatz conjecture
i have no clue! i only do art
speaking of
that thing should probably get new one
digital moat
I recommend using Github and submitting it to the Balatro Mod Manager index. I d...
I remember seeing quite a few mods for Balatro on Nexus but it's nothing like their Skyrim and Fallout pages lol. How do you submit your mod to this Mod Manager Index thingy? First time hearing 'bout that
distant badge
i miss it… 3n + 1 where did they put you
hard plank
mods really do like downsides god damn it
jaunty galleon
working on a banner for season 4 multiplayer
latent crescent
So fire so far
waxen trout
Yo, newish to balatro and really wanting to try it modded. Does anyone know how to mod it on the Steam Deck?
sterile hornet
i miss it… 3n + 1 where did they put you
i at least hope you like the art and sfx for some things cause those are my only contributions
distant badge
literally my only “gripe” is collatz’ death everything else is immaculate with ortalab
sterile hornet
we need to set up the collatz funeral
hard plank
i am going insane
uncut root
Do you think it could be possible for me to make a Balatro modpack in the style of Minecraft modpacks?
plush hound
why does it called virtue
uncut root
With customized progression and "quests" and changes to the unlock conditions of jokers
Where the objective is to complete your collection
Does that even make sense? Would people be interested?
sterile hornet
why does it called virtue
main reason was it was part of some oc thing crim had
digital moat
Do you think it could be possible for me to make a Balatro modpack in the style ...
Definitely sounds cool and i think would mostly be possible but sounds like it would be tough to implement
sterile hornet
only coincidentally it can be an antonym of a joker
sterile hornet
main reason was it was part of some oc thing crim had
even their server was called that
uncut root
Definitely sounds cool and i think would mostly be possible but sounds like it w...
Wouldn't I just need to take ownership of the jokers and change the unlock conditions?
uncut root
I guess graphically I would need to make a flowchart of the unlocks probably
Meaning I have to work with UI
That'd be the hardest part imo
digital moat
Wouldn't I just need to take ownership of the jokers and change the unlock condi...
i don't really have the knowledge to answer that unfortunately, I just started getting into Balatro modding recently. Custom textures and jokers would definitely be possible but not sure about the quests and other stuff u had in mind
hard plank
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
uncut root
Oh yeah I'd probably have to make a custom save system
harsh glacier
full edge
With customized progression and "quests" and changes to the unlock conditions of...
I think you could definitely make something people would be into, if you set things up properly! Big vacuum in the Balatro modpack space, and a curated modpack that someone's actually putting effort into to make cohesive is something that's not really existed so far
sleek granite
ice
uncut root
This is probably gonna sit in the back burner for a lot of time though
It's a big undertaking and I haven't been in the modding community for a long time
full edge
I know, I know Autumn, but yours is specifically not a modpack 😛
uncut root
It'll stay just a concept for a long time
sleek granite
its a mod that recommends you download like 25 others lmao
uncut root
I'd need to make sure the mods involved are sufficiently crossplay compatible
It's gonna most surely have MoreFluff because that's The crossmod mod
sleek granite
glare
full edge
I think the main issue you'd run into is that most mods at so much content that meta progressions and stuff would potentially take ages, haha
full edge
It's gonna most surely have MoreFluff because that's The crossmod mod
haaaave you met #1331462654732144721 😛
sleek granite
10 types
frigid mica
“Last scored mult becomes this joker’s XMult”
“Fuck you” or “Keep it”?
uncut root
haaaave you met <#1331462654732144721> 😛
Not really
Again, I haven't been here in a long time
full edge
https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Balatro_Goes_Kino/Counters
updating the wiki, this is going to take too long
sleek granite
crossing mods you say
tranquil vessel
dang it's maximus goes kino
sleek granite
may i welcome to you my development environment
uncut root
The difficulty comes from the fact that there's no established framework for progression based modpacks
Minecraft has had questbook and recipe modification and different world generation and other stuff like that for ages
frigid mica
Aikoyori’s Cryptid Finity VallKarri Entropy uhh… Maximus Goes Kino?
sleek granite
who needs a questbook to hold your hand
tranquil vessel
It's gonna most surely have MoreFluff because that's The crossmod mod
hoping to see cardsleeves in any big cross-mod content modpack
full edge
The roguelike nature of the game also makes progression as the focus of a modpack a different ask. But I do think a modpack is the better place for mods to explore progression vs mods
lunar sluice
the main way you can do progression in a balatro modpack is adding 5 trillion mods that require you to unlock things
and like
removing the unlock all button
vale sage
🏃♂️
uncut root
I should also learn the way that Cryptid generates new saves
full edge
I'm sure there's more interesting takes on it than that
Even if they'd be more complicated
wind token
uncut root
And I'd need to lock in a specific version of every mod involved because I'm sure there'll be future updates that would make my life hell
full edge
I think the main issue you're running into is just that most mods add plenty of content so a modpack focused on progression is just going to involve getting annoyed with having to fish for specific requirements, unless they're quite generic, haha
lunar sluice
unless youre gonna do metaprogression i dont really see another way
and i think metaprogression is worse than having to endure actually unlocking things
uncut root
So by the time it comes out the mods involved will be outdated
full edge
I think there's actually multiple mods atm going towards their development endgame, so timing-wise that works out, haha
full edge
and i think metaprogression is worse than having to endure actually unlocking th...
I mean, there's entire schism in the roguelike community based on the fact that a lot of people are into meta progression in their roguelikes, so there's definitely space for it
uncut root
The idea for the progression is
Meet requirement -> node becomes unlockable -> click node to unlock its joker/consumable/deck/mechanic
full edge
I think there's definitely some fun space to mess with there
normal hollow
modpack that gradually locks things
tidal terrace
https://streamable.com/92phm6
You cannot escape
uncut root
I'd also need to find a solution to block out certain blinds until certain progression has been made, because at the start with only the low power jokers and consumables it becomes unbearable
full edge
Probably also worth considering that the experience will really start changing once the joker pool becomes more and more diluted
tidal terrace
Good morning everyone
normal hollow
s
digital moat
good morning!
tidal terrace
N
full edge
something I've been wanting to mess with for ages now and keep postponing is a way to 'curate' content for modpacks/big mods so that you can choose at run start to not include a specific suite of content from Balatro Goes Kino, for example, or opt to only use jokers that interact with mechanic X from that mod, while playing with More Fluff. Or allow you to have a shareable content set for your 10+ mod modpack focused on Cryptid that only includes content from those other mods that interacts with Cryptid in fun ways.
I think there's an interesting way to convert the basis of that idea into something that works as a progression system 🤔
vale sage
Good morning everyone
good mornin
plush hound
g
normal hollow
nx
tidal terrace
normal hollow
you both are like magnets
true
plush hound
lost inlet
something I've been wanting to mess with for ages now and keep postponing is a w...
cryptid has content sets so you could mess with that sort of thing
i've considered doing it for my mod
full edge
cryptid has content sets so you could mess with that sort of thing
i've conside...
Yeah, I've looked into that, at least as far as that UI being an option. But the easiest way is really to just ban keys and build on what Banner does, I think
lost inlet
yea fair
jaunty galleon
hello chat. balatro multiplayer am i right
fallow bramble
It's a tiny tad bit too bright but the art is sick, good job
fallow bramble
I meant that light effect from the top
harsh glacier
dark darker yet darker
lost inlet
castle is bad?
harsh glacier
castle is fine
lost inlet
yeah castle is decent
jaunty galleon
there's 13 jokers in the image
lost inlet
obelisk is situational
fallow bramble
The table joker...
lost inlet
popcorn is just good idk what it's doing there
hard plank
th30ne i will add more grab bag
jaunty galleon
in my mind it just fit with diet cola
jaunty galleon
ok plenty of people think red card is dogshit
it's one of the two jokers bunco directly buffs lol
harsh glacier
red card is good early mult if you have good econ
glass plume
hey im trying to run balatro on whisky and i cant get smods to work
lost inlet
red card is ready good if you have the econ for it
glass plume
it just runs like its vanilla
in appdata folder i put a mods thing
folder
and put newest smods
and i added versiondll
to the game files
any idea whats happening
plush hound
hello chat. balatro multiplayer am i right
you cant be calling Diet Cola a BAD joker
what the fuck!
normal hollow
hey im trying to run balatro on whisky and i cant get smods to work
maybe dont drink when trying to mod a game
plush hound
LMAO
harsh glacier
is this related to mac
harsh glacier
are you following the mac instructions
glass plume
wdym
hard plank
glass plume
im usoing windows for both
harsh glacier
im usoing windows for both
yeah dont do that
glass plume
it works for normal balatro
hard plank
why not just run macos version
glass plume
yeah dont do that
the windows edition of it?
hard plank
??
harsh glacier
there's dedicated lovely mac instructions
glass plume
why not just run macos version
do not have
glass plume
there's dedicated lovely mac instructions
but i thought putting into whisky would be fine
hard plank
do not have
if you don't have it on Steam then I'm afraid I can't help you
glass plume
🙁
harsh glacier
the windows method uses dll shimming which wine (and including projects that use wine) does not like working with
get the mac os version
hard plank
this is an official Balatro server, after all
normal hollow
this is the official joyousspring server
glass plume
one handed
i use key grip
harsh glacier
fym
hard plank
you use phones like this?
hard plank
am i fucking freak for using my phone like
glass plume
and allows me to catch my phone faster if it falls
ornate burrow
the key grip is the fist grip
glass plume
key pinch*
lean wyvern
anyone know how to make my jokers compatible with blueprint
completley forgot
thats a thing
glass plume
anyone know how to make my jokers compatible with blueprint
move to left
lean wyvern
move to left
it says incomatible for my modded jokers
normal hollow
anyone know how to make my jokers compatible with blueprint
theyre compatible by default code wise, you need to add blueprint_compat = true for the display
hard plank
move to left
add blueprint_compat = true,
hard plank
am i weird for grabbing my phone like this??
hard plank
i don't have precise image
hard plank
but I'm using my pinky finger to support the phone
normal hollow
but I'm using my pinky finger to support the phone
yeah thats normal
normal hollow
mine is like 200g
glass plume
mine is like 200g
225g
plush hound
i kissed my phone often, because how fucking heavy it is
normal hollow
i kiss my phone goodnight
winged belfry
Does anyone know if there is a mod that lets me adjust how many joker and booster slots there are in a shop?
normal hollow
tidal terrace
Debug plus
wanton lintel
brilliant idea
a stacked rare spectral that just applies every base stacked effect
winged belfry
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1353866504743161886 iirc
Thank You! This should help me having way too many jokers lol
vale sage
how you guys doiin
normal hollow
Thank You! This should help me having way too many jokers lol
@daring sluice
vale sage
say that again......
astral vapor
I found HRT.
placid iron
does anyone know if there's a mod that lets you create your own deck that does work with cryptid installed?
glass plume
i so badly want to make new jokers or decks
like instead of erosion what about depotiions that has blue chips
let me cook here
wanton lintel
i found something at the grocery store earlier
no way
ornate bone
Stupid as hell joker idea:
Forever Weed Brownie - It's an eternal joker that applies the polychrome effect to the whole screen and makes every card in the deck polychrome.
-# may or may not result in being able to taste sound.
worn rain
wanton lintel
Stupid as hell joker idea:
Forever Weed Brownie - It's an eternal joker that ap...
peak
it should slowly get more wild, staking the holographic and negative effects gradually
ornate bone
I mean it's designed to partially hinder the player
wanton lintel
yeah i mean the onscreen effects get exponentially worse
ornate bone
About half way through the run the screen gains the wavy effect seen in Revision 1 of Sonic 1's Labyrinth Zone
To make matters even worse though the joker is always free
So you could unwittingly subject yourself to THE FOREVER WEED BROWNIE
The only other positive of the Forever Weed Brownie is that you get +420 joker slots
worn dagger
i found something at the grocery store earlier
I need the hrt
ornate bone
i found something at the grocery store earlier
Ah finally. A towel I can bludgeon someone with.
worn dagger
worn dagger
Fitting for my dnd character (named after this cat) is a warlock
wanton lintel
i had a funny idea for a dnd character
worn dagger
What is it
wanton lintel
the eldritch looking entity is the warlock
and the eldritch pact entity is just some guy
hard plank
daring sluice
awsoame
grand shadow
ah hell nah ive done put eye sac in balala
frigid mica
@summer geyser i feel like neo's ability to retrigger jokers would be inconsistent asf, so i'm changing it where he gives a double tag.
hard plank
aikoyori working on shenanigans footage
frigid mica
<@728589246528618517> i feel like neo's ability to retrigger jokers would be inc...
Nevermind I thought It doesn’t work
amber river
Hello modding chat
frigid mica
Imagine a joker that retriggers itself
worn rain
Imagine a joker that retriggers itself
very very original
sleek granite
hmmmm
wind token
Fuck it, what if I beat dead island 2 with only improvised weapons
random elk
hey guys, my friend and i play the multiplayer mod. every time we play with each other the game will kick us out the lobby and we can never complete a match. any thoughts?
normal hollow
discord.gg/balatromp ask here
random elk
ty
hard plank
@astral vapor
latent garden
i had cosmetic mods enabled when i got gold stake on checkered deck, how do i get the achievement for winning gold stake
summer geyser
<@728589246528618517> i feel like neo's ability to retrigger jokers would be inc...
okie
hard plank
cloud willow
Anyone know how to get the UT/DR mod working? It keeps crashing when I play a hand.
worn dagger
hard plank
quick reminder
hard plank
we are two thirds into 2025
wanton rapids
okay?
hard plank
yes
woven crag
Anyone know how to get the UT/DR mod working? It keeps crashing when I play a ha...
sending the crash log would help
cloud willow
sending the crash log would help
not on my computer anymore but the cuase was tried to compare number with table
i didnt have any jokers though
woven crag
do you have any other mods installed
cloud willow
only talisman, which is required for the mod
woven crag
okay i think the solution would be to go into talisman's config, change the scoring limit to vanilla and then restart the game
normal hollow
quick reminder
cloud willow
okay i think the solution would be to go into talisman's config, change the scor...
ight ill try
normal hollow
we are 20 days out from my birthday
woven crag
since for some reason despite requiring talisman ut/dr is about as incompatible with it as it can be
hard plank
happy birthday
woven crag
since for some reason despite requiring talisman ut/dr is about as incompatible ...
like if youre just using it for literally one ^mult joker or whatever just use cryptlib atp
i dont get why they dont let you use that
vale sage
we are two thirds into 2025
please don't remind me actually
time passes by too fast :(
vale sage
we are 20 days out from my birthday
woah mine's 16 days out!
wanton rapids
we are 20 days out from my birthday
i will remember
fleet delta
hello I just got into Balatro and I am interested to play multiplayer. Is there some channel or something to find players to play with?
sleek granite
more fluff
wicked jasper
used cryptid to figure out http stuff and
hard plank
working on it
full edge
since for some reason despite requiring talisman ut/dr is about as incompatible ...
Classic
vale sage
used cryptid to figure out http stuff and
i wanna do some http stuff ngl
seems like a lot of fun
woven crag
we are two thirds into 2025
WHAT THE fUCK
wanton rapids
when bought, gain $1 for each round everyone with the mod has gone without owning this joker
sleek granite
mf did you see this
wanton rapids
neat
sleek granite
:3 cool
wanton lintel
when bought, gain $1 for each round everyone with the mod has gone without ownin...
i would spawn it round 1 just to piss ppl off :3
woven crag
everyone with the mod
vale sage
love how my mod is turning out with some cool blinds, cool jokers, etc. and then just this
normal hollow
my mod has this
hard plank
wtf
sleek granite
thats not a yugioh card
normal hollow
i hate yugioh
hard plank
n is so washed
vale sage
my mod has this
kendrick lamar
normal hollow
i will never release it because i want the art to be good
hard plank
i hate yugioh
wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTplxWaAD8o
normal hollow
yeah
vale sage
i will never release it because i want the art to be good
wdym this is peak
normal hollow
its traced
vale sage
ah
hard plank
how do i trace
wanton rapids
woah
vale sage
aikoyori's art is very very good (in my humble opinion)
normal hollow
i got maxx c'd too many times
also im procrastinating on joyous because i need to do UI
hard plank
i want blue portal to look like portal 1
vale sage
i hope i won't have to touch ui
hard plank
and orange portal to look like portal 2
mint flame
kendrick lamar
6 chips
7 mult
vale sage
6 chips
7 mult
man how the fuck did i not come up with that originally
kendrick just gives you a random joker from my mod rn 😭
normal hollow
im still thinking about this idea
vale sage
reminds me
hard plank
HELP
hard plank
tidal terrace
wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTplxWaAD8o
cloud willow
okay i think the solution would be to go into talisman's config, change the scor...
worker perfectly!
thx
vale sage
hey so i have a dumb idea for a joker but i'm not actually if it's a good idea to implement it
basically it would be a joker that gives you X0.1 Mult for each game you have installed on steam
but idk if i should make it cuz i know not everyone's gonna be comfortable with that 🤔
near lance
hey so i have a dumb idea for a joker but i'm not actually if it's a good idea t...
it doesn't display any personal information just like the amount of games you have so its probably fine just like not a balanced joker but funny
vale sage
it doesn't display any personal information just like the amount of games you ha...
i would find a way to make it balanced, and also yes it would literally just count how many games you have installed and just use that value for the joker so i THINK i'm fine??👍
vale sage
oooo trippy
wind token
360 view
vale sage
also i fw the music
