⚙・modding-general

[cyan dagger]

sometimes my game just refuses to load up either with the balatro multiplayer launcher or balatro on steam

[oak kernel]

Go think of them yourself😉

[cyan dagger]

aint sure what i did, but there's probably something wrong i don't know

[coarse merlin]

please

[wanton rapids]

if most people here think of a deck idea they'll just implement it themselves

[coarse merlin]

ok

Hell deck

x5 base blind size

[sleek granite]

i should make a ^4 mult voucher

[coarse merlin]

someone implement that in your mod

[wanton rapids]

?

[coarse merlin]

the hell deck

[oak kernel]

Not original, not fun

[sleek granite]

i have +4 and X4

critically acclaimed thac vouchers

[oak kernel]

No upside

[cyan dagger]

also clarifyingg, it was working earlier p:

[oak kernel]

Did you check your logs?

Mods/lovely/logs

[cyan dagger]

I have not but i'll check it rq

[coarse merlin]

i have a great idea that i'm not going to tell anyone

[finite harbor]

Joker Deck

+95 joker slots
Every joker costs 3x it's normal price

ik it's kinda op but it could be fun

[hard plank]

not really

[finite harbor]

tbh the price could be lowered if it

too hard to get jokers early

[hard plank]

no

if you cannot comprehend a run in 1 screenshot it's bad

[finite harbor]

man I wish I knew modding

so I could just add whatever I want

[oak kernel]

-# it's not that hard

[finite harbor]

I tried JokerForge but it's buggy

[cyan dagger]

guessing the problem is the failed to connect to the debug server line?

[hard plank]

blame aikoyori

[cyan dagger]

am i right in saying that?

[hard plank]

i don't really know

[coarse merlin]

he is begging me to stop

[finite harbor]

anyways I gtg

cya chat

might try learning modding latertoday

[sleek granite]

chat are you full of beans

[hard plank]

prod tag

[dapper forge]

Streamer deck
Rare cards and spectral cards are wayyyy more common
Chips and mult are halved

[dapper forge]

i think you need more yorricks

[wanton rapids]

rofflatro already did that bit

[dapper forge]

actually?

[wanton rapids]

not the same effect but the same idea

[coarse merlin]

New deck idea:
Shoot the moon

Have all queens

[blissful brook]

You have any coding experience?

Deck idea:
Shoot the sun (Stranger)
All jacks

[coarse merlin]

good idea

let me make it

[dapper forge]

New deck idea

Numberslop

You instantly die when you get e300 score

[dapper forge]

Quite literally impossible

[coarse merlin]

is it?

[dapper forge]

Probably, maybe BARELYYYYYYYYYYYY possible with perfect luck (4 royal flushes)

actually let me check

[cyan dagger]

wait uhhh

is there a new lovely version i was unaware of or should i like

[dapper forge]

It's possible if you get straight flushes and four of a kinds only

[cyan dagger]

try to fiddle around with stuff like that?

[lunar sluice]

royal flush is 800, then 300 more from a flush brings you to 1200 then you need only 300 more

[dapper forge]

Which is extremely unrealistic

[lunar sluice]

you dont need straight flushes and 4oaks only

you just need like 1/2 straight flushes

[dapper forge]

Okay but realistically you're not getting a royal/straight flush and 2 flushes on round 1

That's take days

[lunar sluice]

why not

theres 4 suits

its more common than 2 or more straight flushes

[wanton rapids]

if you really dig for it it's very possible

[lunar sluice]

you need to get the straight flush pretty early

[dapper forge]

You'd need to spend a lot of time unless you're doing a seeded run though

[blissful brook]

Skip for tarot pack. Get judgement. Get any +mult

[lunar sluice]

you will definitely need to reset still its not a good deck either way

but if you can just get a straight flush without discarding its easy to win after

[dapper forge]

Very big if

[lunar sluice]

hold R:

i said that already

what else could needing to reset mean

[dapper forge]

Still takes time and the probability is low

[lunar sluice]

wow almost like i said the idea is bad already

its on screen still

i can see the message where i said this

[blissful brook]

Forgeslop deck
Only jokers with 5- description lines can appear

[wanton rapids]

long description != forge slop ???

[lunar sluice]

im not trying to say its a good idea im trying to say that youre making it out to be way more unlikely than it is

you could beat a run in like an hour max

[dreamy abyss]

notmario

[dapper forge]

I'm saying it's very unlikely

[wanton rapids]

missingnumber

[lunar sluice]

well ante 7 and 8 would probably make it worse

[wanton rapids]

wait hotpot in 5 hours

[lunar sluice]

but

[wanton rapids]

huh???

[lunar sluice]

every blind is violet vessel

would be not much less difficult

[dreamy abyss]

notmario dies in 5 hours

[lunar sluice]

and violet vessel is already beatable at all stages of the game

[dapper forge]

what's violet vessel

[dreamy abyss]

technically finity already sort of does this

[lunar sluice]

violet vessel is the one blind with more blind size

6x base

so its like 3x instead of 5x scaling

it is easier

500,000 on all showdowns on white stake other than vv

which ends up as 1.5m

[lunar sluice]

with 5x

[blissful brook]

But it was 5x BASE blind size?

[astral vapor]

im so fucked up rn

[lunar sluice]

i mean if its 5x base as in

the blind size is 5x of the base chips always

its very easy

if its 5x as in it stacks with the 2x from blinds

[dapper forge]

Superboss blind?

[blissful brook]

Base chips are 5 times bigger

No?

[lunar sluice]

then its difficult but you could do it

[blissful brook]

I will launch balatro and try x1.25 base blind size deck to see

[lunar sluice]

replacing 2x blind size with 5x blind size is not that much harder considering stake scaling basically already does that for higher antes

[cyan dagger]

yeah im trying to fiddle around more and the game's still just crashing instantly

aint sure what's happening

[lunar sluice]

the main issue is the first round

and assuming you get scoring jokers in the shop

but the idea is bad because theres a reason stake scaling is scaling specifically and not just a modifier on all requirements

making round 1 harder is something you usually want to avoid doing as much as you can

[cyan dagger]

let me try smth

[lunar sluice]

if you want it to be fun anyway

this is also why red stake is secretly worse than blue stake

it messes with the early game so much

[blissful brook]

Base blind size multiplier does not replace usual. It stacks

[lunar sluice]

thats what i was asking

i wasnt saying it replaced it 100% guaranteed

i was saying if it replaces it its not that hard and if it doesnt replace it its pretty difficult but you could manage

also like no??

you could implement this however you want

you could implement it to replace if you wanted to

[blissful brook]

Every blind is violet vessel

[lunar sluice]

it wasnt even a code question

because i knew that someone could make it work differently if they wanted to

5x blind size start with all hands levelled up by 2 levels ez

[astral vapor]

i will be trying to beat zenith stake

[lunar sluice]

good luck

[astral vapor]

the game itself didnt want me to win and crashed

[lunar sluice]

this would actually make round 1 possible in 1 hand still

because of 4oak

still annoying though

[hard plank]

mineceraft?

hey ruby i made the word bomb blind scale

[lunar sluice]

straight scaling might save you too

nice

straight would be 990 with no chips from cards

[dapper forge]

is cheating in balatro fine if it's just a workaround to a glitch

singleplayer obviously

[astral vapor]

aikoyori hoshiane is this your mod's doing

[hard plank]

fuck do i know

[grand geode]

last name hoshiane????

is this canon

[astral vapor]

did you not know, check their linked accounts

[hard plank]

idk

[cyan dagger]

so literally the 10s seed but for jacks

[coarse merlin]

yes

this + htr

🔥

[blissful brook]

We are hitting the road with this one!

[dapper forge]

fire

[quartz wasp]

Juno was mad, he knew he'd been had.

[dapper forge]

52 of a kind

🔥

[coarse merlin]

i can change hand size to 52 and card selection to 52 maybe

[astral vapor]

guys can i rant about something pretty benign

[blissful brook]

Ok, Lumi

[dapper forge]

but make it so that if you get any card that isn't a jack or modify any seal/edition/enchancement you insta-lose

[astral vapor]

Why the fuck does YouTube think i need ads for a nursery rhyme app like i'm a parent with a new baby

[cyan dagger]

ok, i think i found out what the problem was but like

iunno how i can fix things

[coarse merlin]

ads are personanilsed

[blissful brook]

I get casino ads

[dapper forge]

I guess you've been looking up things that a parent usually looks up, since youtube ads are based off of your cookies

or you just didn't give youtube consent to use your cookies for personalized ads

[astral vapor]

I WATCH TUMBLR SHORTS, ROMCOM MANGA DUBS, AND TECHNOLOGY CONNECTION VIDEOS-

[blissful brook]

Like literal casino websites

[prisma latch]

chat what if. what if consumable alchemy (if i do add this it'll be after the mod's first release lmao)

[astral vapor]

wait its probably that last one.

[dapper forge]

looks sick

[astral vapor]

me when i watch one too many videos on fridges

[dapper forge]

but it'd need seperate slots

or people wouldn't want to use consumeable slots on it

[prisma latch]

true

[gilded vortex]

How are you?

[prisma latch]

but i mean. the effects seem pretty powerful to me so idk, i'd personally hold onto a 4-leaf clover if it meant i could triple a probability or score shit tons of money

but yeah maybe ill add seperate slots

[dapper forge]

I feel like Luck/Luck should be an option to either fail or win the next probability based event

You wouldn't want to multiply the chance of your gros michel getting destroyed

[gilded vortex]

The second one seems a bit too good

[prisma latch]

well just. don't use luck/luck if you have a gros or a cavendish ig, like how you wouldn't want oops

youd prolly need showman to pull that effect off anyways

[dapper forge]

Oops is ALWAYS good

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think it should be an option

[dapper forge]

i mean even if it was a 50/50 that'd still sound slightly better

[prisma latch]

idk, these'll prolly be a little rarer than tarots and you'd need 2 of them to pull off an effect

[grand geode]

.... cavendish?

[dapper forge]

since 3x could be either absurdly strong or weak

[gilded vortex]

O!A6s also causes the same example you gave

[dapper forge]

I will not retract my statement.

[grand geode]

literally what

[dapper forge]

but 2x all odds

[gilded vortex]

You’re just not making sense

[gilded vortex]

Hello Myst

How are you

[grand geode]

hi victin

[dapper forge]

Might be because i'm barely awake

[grand geode]

im doing well

[oak kernel]

Most odds*

[prisma latch]

should i just like go all in on making them rlly powerful effects and make the consumables rare enough to balance it

[grand geode]

what now

[dapper forge]

spent 5 hours trying to make a workaround that lets me play normally with a glitch

[oak kernel]

In terms of modded at least

[gilded vortex]

No

[prisma latch]

why nott

[gilded vortex]

Well it’s your mod you choose how to balance it

I think making them common with average effects makes more sense

[prisma latch]

well yeah but i wanna hear why you dont think it should be

[blissful brook]

I just realised that balatro did not load my tarot code😭

[gilded vortex]

You engage more with the mechanic if it’s common

[dapper forge]

Make seperate rare ingredients maybe, kinda like with the rare spectral cards?

[gilded vortex]

And you can alchemize alchemy products

[prisma latch]

i was thinking of having a spectral ingredient, might just add a couple tiers of rarity to them yeah

[grand geode]

is that your oc in devyat clothing

[dapper forge]

Yeah, that would make them both a common mechanic that's commonly used, and could allow for very powerful combos

[gilded vortex]

Wait is that the person whose avatar had blonde-pink hair

I don’t remember their name

[tropic egret]

alright

[grand geode]

hi canicao

[blissful brook]

Not my oc, but yes

I can't draw

[gilded vortex]

Is it Gwenpool

[blissful brook]

Not

[sleek granite]

meow

[gilded vortex]

Good to know

[prisma latch]

ok so like. what effects are actually worthy of a higher rarity lol

[gilded vortex]

How are you Autumn :3

[prisma latch]

i think the 4 leaf clover should be a rare one but idk

i suck balls at balancing

[gilded vortex]

I like the idea that there’s an ingredient that just makes the effect stronger and rarer

[prisma latch]

idk i like the idea of being able to find rare ingredients in packs beyond just the One good ingredient that buffs it

but one that makes the effect stronger is a fun idea

[blissful brook]

Minecraft potion brewing

[astral vapor]

guys am i weird for being satisfied with playing upto ante 9 and then just starting a new game when i see the you win screen?

[grand geode]

no

[blissful brook]

It is Shigure from Blue archive (I forgot her name😭 )

[blissful brook]

You are sane person

[digital jungle]

nah thats understandable

[lean wyvern]

coding this game makes me feel like those monkeys trying to write hamlet

[astral vapor]

if i had a nickel for every time a modder had a blue archive pfp that they were known for, i'd have 2 nickels

[blissful brook]

Same

[lean wyvern]

nevermind it works

hell yeah

[lunar sluice]

coding this game makes me imagine what the world would be like if it were a utopia and then i get disasapointed that i am forced into torment instead by my own brain

[sleek granite]

i want to develop mod

[blissful brook]

Where's my wild suit

[dapper forge]

just sacrificed an exotic for an epic

totally worth it

[gilded vortex]

But how are you feeling

[sleek granite]

right here play 0 error

[gilded vortex]

I only ever beat ante 8 usually

[astral vapor]

and you decided to inflict it on us by inventing the burning brimstone blind

[lunar sluice]

ee is 1% of my true power

[astral vapor]

yeah i beat ante 8 and win on ante 9

[dapper forge]

no, everyone likes playing the game differently

[dapper forge]

no one is weird for playing a game a certain way

[astral vapor]

once i see "you win" i shout to myself "yesssss!" and then nap for 2 hours

[harsh glacier]

hi aikoyori

[gilded vortex]

wow based meme

[blissful brook]

What is this

[gilded vortex]

An image

[grand geode]

ee is not even that complicated

have you Seen lobcorp

[gilded vortex]

It’s a particular arrangement of colored pixels meant to evoke the perception of a specific thing through sight

[lunar sluice]

ee is perfectly understandable other than the last phase

because it just doesnt tell you which blind effects are whitelisted cause i got lazy

[lean wyvern]

I love when coding works

[lunar sluice]

i didnt do this originally because it was a blacklist and i didnt think it was relevant but then there was 1000 cases of weirdness going on with other mods

so i changed it

[harsh glacier]

hi mistress ruby

[lean wyvern]

its highkey broken i might have to change that

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know what you speak of but I also have a Blind with a whitelist

[dreamy abyss]

endless entropy has a gun and she’s gonna kill god with it

[gilded vortex]

To avoid weirdness

[lunar sluice]

hello

[hard plank]

looks good

[lunar sluice]

its the same sort of idea just more exrreme where it applies multiple blind effects at once

[gilded vortex]

Have you seen Grover’s mad quest to kill god

[lunar sluice]

i wonder if i can add enough mechanics where zenith stake is beatable without any crossmod

[harsh glacier]

the cast only applies 2 different boss blinds normally so its probably fine

[gilded vortex]

I’ve also had that idea although I think mine was too similar to Cryptid’s

Orb?

[dreamy abyss]

orb

[harsh glacier]

obsidian

[lunar sluice]

i think mine is different enough from obsidian orb because it just doesnt depend on your run at all the list is always the same

[gilded vortex]

I also have the Masks now

[harsh glacier]

natural the cast shows up at ante 8 with 2 showdown boss blinds

though i should probably make it show which blinds are chosen but it doesn't exactly help that its determined when you enter the blind

[gilded vortex]

I determine mine when they’re rolled

[harsh glacier]

@tall vortex i didn't work on storm cards today sorry

i don't have the graphics

[tall vortex]

Oops

[gilded vortex]

I wanted to add a Blind that allows the player to choose the Blind

Someone else helped me with the code but

[tall vortex]

Ill send that over after my morning walk 💔

[fast trellis]

Been trying to wrap my head around lua recently, can someone tell me where to put this 'end'?

[SMODS jackandfriends "main.lua"]:60: Error processing file 'jokers/curseofra.lua' for mod with ID 'jackandfriends': [SMODS jackandfriends "jokers/curseofra.lua"]:59: 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 52) near 'return'

[gilded vortex]

There’s still the issue where choosing the Blind is easier than not

[gilded vortex]

Like here with the Masks, they’re slightly harder than all Blinds, but not by enough that I think it’s a big issue

[gilded vortex]

Use an auto formatter to try and spot the error

[gilded vortex]

So far my idea was to make them choose between two back-to-back Blinds or a Showdown

[tidal terrace]

Cool boss blind idea

[lime siren]

there goes one of my 11 original joker names you have two return statements inside the same if statement

[dapper forge]

holy peak

it's a mega pack too so i can take both

[tidal terrace]

Bro hit the jackpot

[dapper forge]

not really, i have midgard so my odds are like atleast 5x

[tidal terrace]

Oh look it’s magic trick as a spectral

[lime siren]

you can only have 1 return statement per "choice branch", so the compiler tells you it expects that if statement to be closed before the second return statement

[dapper forge]

What's magic trick

The one that lets you buy playing cards?

[tidal terrace]

This code is so cooked

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[dapper forge]

This one removes one of your vouchers but gives you 2

[fast trellis]

in my defense, I did it through jokerforge, so most of my manual coding has come down to debugging

[dapper forge]

Sadly gateway crashes my game for unknown reasons, so i have to just use debug and a random number generator to simulate the effect

[lean wyvern]

is a card that perma scales 5 chips every card discarded busted chat

[harsh glacier]

thats just better hiker

[dapper forge]

Pretty

[tidal terrace]

You have one syntax error in the if statement

[lean wyvern]

no the joker gives 5 extra chips

[lime siren]

i ignored the rest of the image but let me se- oh my goodness gracious (jk not that horrible)

[blissful brook]

CHAT, I DID IT

It now crashes tho

[lean wyvern]

im testing it out and its spewing like 600 chips

[blissful brook]

But I'll figure it out later

[tidal terrace]

Just use Ai bro it’s so cool

[lime siren]

sounds about right for a card that turns cards into errors :clueless:

[tidal terrace]

You won’t be publicly executed i swear

[fast trellis]

I would rather rip out my own toenails than use ai, but thank you for the suggestion :)

[blissful brook]

Now I need to add sprite and localization

[tidal terrace]

Don’t do localization

I know you’re not gonna add another language other than english

[blissful brook]

Translation from ⬜ ⬜ ⬜ ⬜ ⬜ to english

Because it is WILD card

I went insane

[lime siren]

do localization because its not that hard

[dapper forge]

As long as it's not something like art which is being stolen then it's honestly fine

[tidal terrace]

The whole point of localization is adding more languages

[prisma latch]

ai discussion is banned in modding chat isnt it

[tidal terrace]

[prisma latch]

check pinned

[blissful brook]

Idk how to add words

[tidal terrace]

Nah i was just joking

[blissful brook]

To my mod

Instead of ERROR

[dapper forge]

Alright didn't know

[tidal terrace]

It was just a joke we’re not discussing anything

[dapper forge]

Anyways, why are like 90% of the people in this chat modders themselves

[prisma latch]

because

[dapper forge]

i see way more people play mods than make them yet i mainly see creators here

[prisma latch]

its modding chat

[tidal terrace]

Error is a localization error mainly

Check the

[dapper forge]

#💻・modding-dev exists

[tidal terrace]

Wiki

[prisma latch]

we try to only use dev chat when we have questions we need answering

[blissful brook]

This works

[prisma latch]

so when we just wanna talk about our mods we come here

[dapper forge]

Makes sense

doesn't really explain why i dont really see people who just play here though

[tidal terrace]

That’s just a flush

😭

[dapper forge]

did you kidnap them to play your mods

[fast trellis]

now i just have

[SMODS jackandfriends "jokers/curseofra.lua"]:75: attempt to index global 'context' (a nil value)

[lime siren]

because this is secretly self promo for your own mods :clueless:

[wind token]

-# pill

[harsh glacier]

play my mod

[gilded vortex]

play my mod

[prisma latch]

mod my play

[gilded vortex]

*buzz lightyears GIF*

[tidal terrace]

Is this inside your calculate function ?

[prisma latch]

chat is this too powerful for suit gemstone jokers like arrowhead and bloodstone

[blissful brook]

My playmod

[tidal terrace]

How do you play a sun card

[prisma latch]

custom suits

sun and moon

[fast trellis]

nope outside of everything else

[tidal terrace]

It’s outside the calculate function

That’s why the context is nil

Because it doesn’t exist

[fast trellis]

-# ah

[blissful brook]

In fact I do

[dapper forge]

What are some of y'alls favorite modded joker names

[wind token]

I’m not proud about this, I thought Austria was in Germany

[gilded vortex]

Thank you

[wind token]

Two factor authentication

[dapper forge]

one that i personally like is THE COMPLETE AND UTTER ANHILLATION OF EVERYTHING THAT MAKES BALATRO SACRED

[blissful brook]

nil

[tidal terrace]

Exodia the forbidden one

[dapper forge]

that's a.. real card?

[wind token]

Does anyone know how to low pop

Wait wrong discord

Sorry

[tidal terrace]

Yeah from yugioh

Forgot which mod

[dapper forge]

what are the stats

[gilded vortex]

Idk why you shared this here

[lime siren]

find my pages :clueless:

[wind token]

I may be stupud

[tidal terrace]

You just win every blind that’s it

[dapper forge]

my number 1 favorite is probably

Jimball

[gilded vortex]

I have the code to make the selection works IIRC

[lime siren]

unless its really hard to convert to those suits, this is really op

[lean wyvern]

balanced indeed

[tidal terrace]

This is just better castle

[blissful brook]

Infinite hands glitch

[gilded vortex]

But still not sure

[blissful brook]

With return to deck joker

[tidal terrace]

I love gambling

[prisma latch]

yeahhh idk what else to do, base game already has +chips, +mult, xmult and money covered so idk what else to do

[fast trellis]

gonna glaze myself here and say that I thought this was funny

[lean wyvern]

its cards in general

[dapper forge]

How are you trying to balance your mod? this might be extremely overpowered or extremely weak depending on that

[lime siren]

^mult :clueless:

[gilded vortex]

Although now that I think about it, if you couldn’t see the options before clicking the Blind, that would make it slightly harder than other Blinds

[tidal terrace]

It’s pretty funny

[prisma latch]

i am Not doing ^mult. and. well there's 1 instance of xchips in my mod but i dont wanna use it too much rlly

[dapper forge]

i don't get it

[lean wyvern]

atm it crusised me to like ante 5 and im still like one or two handing blinds

[fast trellis]

condenses the effects of Sock & Buskin, Photograph, & Handing Chad into one joker that saves time

[dapper forge]

i don't get the joke

[sleek granite]

use +mult

[tidal terrace]

Working on handy :D

[blissful brook]

Isn't it +4 mult

[lime siren]

Real

[blissful brook]

And not +4 +mult

[dapper forge]

Would be funny if you just kept it that way

[dapper forge]

i think that's the point

[pastel surge]

i am popping off rn

[gilded vortex]

Are the extra boxes permanent

[sleek granite]

extra 📦s

what do you mean

[gilded vortex]

Can you toggle them on-off?

[sleek granite]

whats a box

[gilded vortex]

Text box

[sleek granite]

98%

[gilded vortex]

Normally Jokers only have one

[blissful brook]

My mod doesn't have any jokers that are JOKERs

[sleek granite]

ik the visuals are fucky but the sfx good??? :?

[tidal terrace]

Speaking about normal in modding chat

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[wraith seal]

where did the fire go + why is the X+mult box red lmao

[gilded vortex]

In my defense I’m not wearing my glasses /cope

[sleek granite]

the fire will rely on me figuring out how the hell that works

[woven crag]

Just wait until you see joyous spring + stacked boxes

[wraith seal]

also yeah nice sfx

[gilded vortex]

Anyways I asked because the Blue Prince modder wanted a similar feature

[wraith seal]

isnt that just #1400835837960126474

😭

[quartz wasp]

Yay! He works now and interacts properly with hand levels : ]

[sleek granite]

yeah

[gilded vortex]

Sokoban mod?

[sleek granite]

use stacked

[gilded vortex]

Oh I thought it was a SMODS feature

[sleek granite]

victin use stacked

it's so cool

[gilded vortex]

I’m not the Blue Prince modder

[wraith seal]

i hooked to stuff to do that lmao

[sleek granite]

victin use stacked

[wraith seal]

stacking it

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if I like stacked boxes

[sleek granite]

killing you with hammers

[tidal terrace]

You get used to it after 3 runs

[gilded vortex]

Vanilla already allows for line breaks

So I’m not sure multiple boxes are needed

[wraith seal]

line breaks dont look as good

they look especially bad when the joker has multi boxes by default

[gilded vortex]

Debatable

[tidal terrace]

I agree with bepis

[gilded vortex]

I mean, why are you combining both

I’d use one or the other

[tidal terrace]

Stacked boxes are noticeable but also they won’t work if the joker has too much desc

[gilded vortex]

And I probably wouldn’t give a Joker enough effects to require a large number of boxes

[carmine prawn]

[unborn plover]

Holy shit... the shop used to look like THAT?!

[wraith seal]

stacked has effect pages

if it has more than 2 effects it will be sent to the next page

so even if you have like a gazillion effects it will still look like that

[gilded vortex]

Like the line break looks good here

[normal hollow]

no

[gilded vortex]

Or you can not have that many effects

[wraith seal]

it looks good when its naturally a part of the joker imo

[gilded vortex]

Why do you think that

[normal hollow]

dunno looks bad to me

[gilded vortex]

What does this mean

[wraith seal]

people complained stacked effects and joker's main effect not being different enough before

[gilded vortex]

I mean it looks good to me

[summer geyser]

gahd dam

[gilded vortex]

I mean those are randomly generated effects right

[wraith seal]

yes

[surreal walrus]

my balatro doesn't load with steammodded in the mods folder but boots fine without it, and some mods work fine, what do I do

[gilded vortex]

That’s something completely different

I’m talking of Jokers’ effects

[wraith seal]

:3

[sleek granite]

hammers

[wraith seal]

wat

[gilded vortex]

A stacked effect isn’t a Joker effect

It’s an effect given to a Joker

Like Editions

[sleek granite]

bepis this joker shows up in the shop costing $1 do you take it

[wraith seal]

yeah, thats why the effect boxes are not a part of the joker's main description

[carmine prawn]

I would also say the Break looks good, it's unusual but you get used to it :3c

[wraith seal]

i dont see why not

[gilded vortex]

I’m talking about Joker effects though

[sleek granite]

victin thats been in smods for like ages

[gilded vortex]

It’s only unusual because vanilla doesn’t do it

Multiboxes are also not vanilla

[gilded vortex]

What are you talking about @_@

[sleek granite]

multiboxes

they're a smods feature

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[sleek granite]

you can just do that

[gilded vortex]

I know

[surreal walrus]

?

[fast trellis]

I'm genuinely lost rn

[carmine prawn]

-# May I ask how you did it owo?

[rare bane]

Allegedly the issue with vampired cards getting debuffed on Tower boss blind (or whatever previously played this ante boss is) is a steammodded issue, is there a way to fix this?
-# accidentally deleted the message cuz I'm tired, lol

[carmine prawn]

-# In response to this

[gilded vortex]

You can add a text line with a space. You can even reduce the font to make the line break shorter

[normal hollow]

is there an issue for this

[gilded vortex]

If you just have a blank line, it’s automatically removed

But spaces aren’t blank

[carmine prawn]

Oh my god that is so smart how did I not get that Idea

[normal hollow]

i used to do that and then i switched to multi boxes because it looks better

[sleek granite]

it does

[gilded vortex]

I’m not sure it looks better

[sleek granite]

i wish one-line multiboxes were smaller

[gilded vortex]

It’s less vanilla

[sleek granite]

but thats the only issue

[normal hollow]

that's why it looks better

[carmine prawn]

Sometimes I just want an effect to be seperate but not Multibox Seperate

[sleek granite]

vanilla aesthetic lover

[normal hollow]

now lets get rid of badges

[gilded vortex]

And I’m not sure effects that require multiboxes should exist

[normal hollow]

i dont talk to joyousspring haters

[rare bane]

I was playing with only texture mods and when vampire would clear the enhancements, the cards would get debuffed fsr

[gilded vortex]

Yu-Gi-Oh! wouldn’t do multiboxes*

It doesn’t even use line breaks

MTG uses line breaks though

*Except for Pendulums

[normal hollow]

my mod is not yugioh

[gilded vortex]

I mean, if a single effect shouldn’t use multiboxes IMO

[normal hollow]

I meant a Github issue

[rare bane]

Wdym?

[gilded vortex]

So at the point you have multiple different effects, should you 🤔

[normal hollow]

I don't think a single effect should use linebreaks

[carmine prawn]

Examples I'd give here:

[wraith seal]

well anyways i think most stacked players like the multi boxes so i think i dont need to change them lol

[west hill]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[normal hollow]

like is this bug reported to smods or not?

[gilded vortex]

I disagree, I think if one were to create a card game, different abilities should be different boxes, and single-effects should be able to have line breaks

[sleek granite]

bepis did you make it possible to change the bg colour or no i tried it but i might have been dummy

[west hill]

don't your line break jokers have multiple different effects though?

[wraith seal]

im p sure i did

[gilded vortex]

I think these would look better with line breaks

Maybe rephrasing too

[wraith seal]

im not at pc rn so i cant check though, its smt like background_colour in loc_vars i think

[rare bane]

This is my first time finding something like this and I was told it must be a steammodding issue and idk what to do :P

[sleek granite]

oh i probably shortened it

[gilded vortex]

Some of them

[sleek granite]

thats what i get for not looking through the code first

[wraith seal]

lel

[normal hollow]

report here https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/issues

[gilded vortex]

Like looking at these I just think line breaks would look better than multiboxes 😭

[sleek granite]

oh yeah that first one absolutely shouldnt be multibox i agree

i can see the second one tho

[gilded vortex]

I remember the discussion that some vanilla Jokers have multiple effects

While thunk was defending themself by arguing “if it’s one idea/concept/flavor, it’s one effect”

Like the current wording of Smeared reads like two effects

Grös Michel can be read as two effects

Three if you want to argue about Cavendish

[sleek granite]

oh sick

[gilded vortex]

I’m not sure I understand the +Mult

[sleek granite]

consult the visual demonstration

[gilded vortex]

-# bring original Smeared wording back

[rare bane]

Doneskiess, tyyy ^w^

[gilded vortex]

Yeah I saw it, I didn’t understand it

[sleek granite]

it is +Mult

[gilded vortex]

Is that different from Mult in practice

[sleek granite]

XMult, X+Mult, Balancing, Swapping, etc.

[icy salmon]

where do i ask for help with crashes again

[gilded vortex]

Wait, so it’s not multiplied by xMult?

[sleek granite]

correct

[gilded vortex]

I think the visual demonstration looks misleading then

[sleek granite]

i want to move the +Mult indicator below the Mult box tbh

[gilded vortex]

It looks as if it would get xMultiplied

Because of the parentheses

I can see now that you put them there because of Chips

[vale sage]

I think +Mult just gets added on top of the mult that gets calculated to the score, so for example +4 + (extra mult)??

[sleek granite]

why would +Mult get affected by XMult it's not Mult

[gilded vortex]

But since they’re there, it makes me think that Mult and +Mult get added before xMult

[sleek granite]

yeah it's only added at the end of scoring

[gilded vortex]

PEMDAS

parenthesis before multiplication

[sleek granite]

but you're multiplying mult

not the equation

[gilded vortex]

So parenthesis before xMult

[sleek granite]

the variable

[hard plank]

I'm not British

[west hill]

because victin has a super strange understanding of the order of what happens, he's tried to argue that +mult is the same as xchips before

[wraith seal]

im vietnamese

[sleek granite]

i'm not smart

[wraith seal]

I'm Old!

[vale sage]

I'm hungarian

[wraith seal]

< one of the youngest people here maybe

[gilded vortex]

In that case I wouldn’t say it’s the order but me comparing xChips to the final Mult before scoring is evaluated

[sleek granite]

man why cant i just make silly dumb features

[vale sage]

hi aiko

[hard plank]

hi

[gilded vortex]

And you’re adding to Mult, then taking the Chips and Mult product @_@

[hard plank]

i think i made the wordle challenge work

[vale sage]

ooo?

[gilded vortex]

I just found the parentheses misleading

[vale sage]

i suck at wordle so that'll be fun lol

[gilded vortex]

Maybe ((Mult) + +Mult) would be less misleading to me

[hard plank]

go to hardcore challenges on my mod

don't forget to update to latest main if you want to see this

[gilded vortex]

Literal mummy

[normal hollow]

i want to see this

[vale sage]

will do actually, I only have played latest release 🥴

[wraith seal]

naw

[hard plank]

n

[gilded vortex]

'

[vale sage]

.

[hard plank]

word bomb

[wanton rapids]

willingness?

[hard plank]

yeah

[vale sage]

damn i don't think I would've figured that one out 😭

[hard plank]

it scales

per ante now

[half harness]

this is an abomination

i love it

[hard plank]

hi

exa

[half harness]

hi

[hard plank]

my mod hasn't had any new content

[half harness]

yes i will play

[hard plank]

sorry about that

[half harness]

ooh

nvm then

[hard plank]

I'll tell you when there's new significant content

[hard plank]

tho you could try the new challenges

if you want to test you English skill

[half harness]

me and enghisf

haha funy

[tidal terrace]

you can play “goon”

10/10 mod

[hard plank]

it's an actual word

[tidal terrace]

Ik

And you can do nothing about it

[half harness]

what is this "goon" you speak off

[gilded vortex]

I mean they could remove it

They removed actual words

[normal hollow]

goon as in henchman

[hard plank]

i realise i can add any word

[gilded vortex]

add “blorgus”

[half harness]

thanks, i thought goon as a faster way to say go on

[tidal terrace]

Unc status granted

[dapper forge]

i just discovered what too much numberslop is

[hard plank]

what is it

[dapper forge]

something that boosts chips by (537)83

[gilded vortex]

Also I hope no one took what I said as me saying they can’t make Jokers with multiple effects :<

[hard plank]

i think that's way too much

[dapper forge]

for sure

[hard plank]

at some point it just gets boring lol

[gilded vortex]

What’s this supposed to mean

[hard plank]

to me at least

[dapper forge]

The (537) means ^s

so like

although it's usually never written this way

^^^10 would be (3)10

[gilded vortex]

who decided that

[hard plank]

you mean

[dapper forge]

card description

[hard plank]

{27}

[dapper forge]

🤯

[gilded vortex]

Usually product is written as concatenation

[pastel surge]

i am so evil

[wispy stone]

Is there a mod that fixes the pitch of the soundtrack to LouisF's original video?

[dapper forge]

no one buying that 🙏

[gilded vortex]

So (x)y would be a way to disambiguate between a single number and a product

[pastel surge]

the joker being covered is the mannacle

[gilded vortex]

That’s not even neutral, much less evil

[hard plank]

it's ass

[pastel surge]

the joker being covered is the mannacle

[tidal terrace]

Be nice

[hard plank]

I'm sorry

it's underwhelming

[pastel surge]

i know

[tidal terrace]

Not everyone is an artist aikoyori

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if I agree

[hard plank]

i meant gameplay wise

[gilded vortex]

But also I don’t think it’s very exciting

[dapper forge]

just temporarily disabled it

and it crashed a bunch anyways

[gilded vortex]

I think it would be fine to have a Joker like that

[daring sluice]

all numberslop is too much numberslop

[gilded vortex]

But both granting xMult isn’t particularly interesting

[tidal terrace]

I mean it depends on their approach because it’s their mod

[pastel surge]

no its fine

[dapper forge]

lowk it looks kinda fire if we're talking about the appearance

simple designs can be good too

[pastel surge]

crititism is required for progression

[gilded vortex]

I think the Ox design-wise can be interesting

[dapper forge]

But i mean like

[gilded vortex]

I wouldn’t also make the Manacle like that

[hard plank]

it must be half as good as showman

[dapper forge]

the ox is way too big of a downside

[gilded vortex]

Consider Credit Card

Then use Ox to gain money

[pastel surge]

holy shit i never thought of that

[tidal terrace]

Please if you’re gonna criticize someone at least point their mistakes and suggest solutions and not just say oh it’s garbage that helps no one

[hard plank]

it's a rare tho

[dapper forge]

Most people would probably rather just have a thousand dolalrs normally or something

[gilded vortex]

Numberslop

[dapper forge]

the hell you mean

it's pretty possible in vanilla

[gilded vortex]

You can maybe get to $100 consistently

[pastel surge]

this mod is about 2 things

memes and big number go up

[hard plank]

sorry

i think it's too weak and has way too little to be a rare

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah ive been thinking of a potential alternate joker set

[gilded vortex]

You can Perkeo what’s-the-name and farm money from sell value

[wanton rapids]

so you pick some jokers from some mods

[quartz wasp]

What would be an advisable way to have a Joker that triggers before anything scores? I've tried using the before context but it doesn't save changes to the hand score because it seems to recalculate based on the base values for the poker hand when it starts scoring. I want to add a few jokers that mess with the base values of hands but the current method I'm using of directly modifying the values is a huge pain in the ass

[gilded vortex]

But that’s not consistent

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if I agree

[hard plank]

i think it's uncommon

[gilded vortex]

I think it’s Rare for complexity

Setting money to 0 when you play your most played hand requires a little more thinking IMO

[prisma latch]

what's the best way to phrase "X/5 chance to gain +1 hand, where x is how many sun cards were played" in a vanilla way

i cant think of anything clear enough

[blissful brook]

Obelisk

[blissful brook]

I think obelisk

Obelisk

Obelis

Obeli

Obel

[gilded vortex]

Maybe something like “0 in 5 chance of +1 Hand (improved by played Sun cards)”

[blissful brook]

Obe

[coarse merlin]

what did I do

[blissful brook]

Ob

[hard plank]

i think it's 3x mult so it's like whatever

[blissful brook]

O

[prisma latch]

nvm i think i got it

[blissful brook]

Nil deck

[prisma latch]

is this still too op for an uncommon

[hard plank]

oops no card.children.front

[gilded vortex]

I think this is ambiguous

It reads like a Bernoulli

[coarse merlin]

what

5oak??

i broke the game I think

maybe no

not

it's still working

[gilded vortex]

Like you could get +5 hands

[west hill]

context.initial_scoring_step

[hard plank]

eremel

[prisma latch]

so smth like "0/5 chance to gain +1 hand, chance increases by 1/5 for each scored Sun card this hand"? feels too complicated for me

[hard plank]

can i get something before initial scoring step

[west hill]

woops I didnt reply to the message

[west hill]

context.initial_scoring_step

[hard plank]

pre scoring kinda deal

[frozen flax]

chat, how cracked do ye all think this is.
it's almost vampire bait in my opinion.

[gilded vortex]

Which is why I didn’t write like that

[sleek granite]

its awful they're all scoreless

[frozen flax]

elaborate

[gilded vortex]

Isn’t before doing that?

[west hill]

that's just context.before, no?

[prisma latch]

"improved by playing Sun cards" feels far more ambiguous than my original description

[blissful brook]

At least it isn't flush five

[coarse merlin]

what's wrong with flush five

[digital jungle]

it might be a little bit

[blissful brook]

Then it would be more broken than just ranks

[hard plank]

something before that

[west hill]

whats the aim?

[timid flame]

is this any good or busted? really hard to imagine

[sleek granite]

oh hey its that ortalab voucher

[west hill]

it's niche

[timid flame]

would be an uncommon joker

[west hill]

as a joker I don't think I would ever pick it up

[timid flame]

never heard of that voucher (am not too well versed in what already has been done in mods)

[gilded vortex]

I think players can deduce how it improves

[timid flame]

yea that's my worry

[west hill]

unless you are building a load of skip synergy, skipping isn't very good to do

[pastel surge]

go on
say it.

[gilded vortex]

Meanwhile I think players can misinterpret the original description as a Bernoulli

Wait sorry

[sleek granite]

what the hell is a benoulli

[gilded vortex]

Binomial

[bright shore]

rainbow 🌈

[vale sage]

rainbows are awesome, in my humble opinion

[gilded vortex]

A Bernoulli distribution models a coin flip

A binomial distribution is a collection of Bernoullis

[pastel surge]

anyways im gonna learn how to make a deck and then return

[normal hollow]

maybe i shouldnt disable the blind during the word bomb challenge

[ember surge]

free win

[gilded vortex]

For comparison, Hearthstone uses that kind of wording

[vale sage]

🇵

[timid flame]

how? you still need to gain money to get stuff against the bossblinds right?

[ember surge]

economy related skip tags exist +mega buffoon packs

[prisma latch]

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy chattttt dont suppose anyone would wanna draw me 2 gemstone jokers pretty pleaseeee/j

[timid flame]

hmm yea i suppose...

[gilded vortex]

It could happen

[vale sage]

i wish i was better at drawing other artstyles so that i wouldn't have to do this bad placeholder 🥲

[bright shore]

too strong?

[sleek granite]

me too

[vale sage]

this is gonna have to stick sadly until i come up with a good idea 😔

[tender atlas]

Rainbø deck

[vale sage]

(good thing all the other cards have my artstyle on em so it's fine)

[hard plank]

oh whoops

lmao

[blissful brook]

What if allow skipping boss blinds (expect showdown)

[hard plank]

pull the changes

[tender atlas]

é

[hard plank]

you shouldn't be able to disable it now

[timid flame]

"stand strong deck, have pride!"

[gilded vortex]

My friends were talking about runes and thorns just now

[hard plank]

Adder

[gilded vortex]

chat should I have lunch

[dapper forge]

yes

[timid flame]

if it'd be a rare and maybe have a small downside, would that help? @ember surge

[plush hound]

development is halted

i got distracted

[tidal terrace]

Sure heaven

[wanton lintel]

prob no lyre art today

i feel like shit

[tidal terrace]

[blissful brook]

Hopefully forever

[unborn plover]

....hand must what

[vale sage]

Hand mustard

[normal hollow]

hand must

[tidal terrace]

Hand must •

[digital jungle]

Hand must

[wanton lintel]

so it will not score and must . noted.

[timid flame]

mand hust

[blissful brook]

Baba is you type thing

[astral vapor]

guys

i added yaoi to my mod

[blissful brook]

Is that cookie run

Or I am blind

[astral vapor]

thats project sekai...

[tidal terrace]

[blissful brook]

I am big blind chat

[astral vapor]

im gonna add shadow milk later my sweet child

[pastel surge]

i misclicked in piskel and now i NEED to make this a deck 😭

[wanton lintel]

ok wait

[hard plank]

genuine question

2 × 5 = 10

[wanton lintel]

soul jam consumables would go hard

[astral vapor]

correct

[hard plank]

is 5 the multiplier

[wanton lintel]

yes your math is mathing

[hard plank]

or is the 2 the multiplier

[blissful brook]

How it was supposed to look

[hard plank]

fuck you scam bots

[pastel surge]

i was going to make the blue parts grey and then add a arrow to make it look like one of those stock market charts

[hard plank]

DID YOU READ THE QUESTION

[unborn plover]

no, you are

[astral vapor]

is 2 the what now

[blissful brook]

I am easiest showdown blind chat

[digital jungle]

well in balatro terms itd be 5 but in actual terms both can technically be

[hard plank]

2 × 5 = 10
is five the multiplier or two the multiplier

[jaunty galleon]

hello chat

[hard plank]

as in mathematics

[wanton lintel]

i think the 5 is usually considered the multiplier
unless theres smth like 5x i think the second number is the multiplier

[hard plank]

next time I'm adding subtrahend to balatro

[jaunty galleon]

i'm grabbing it

[wanton lintel]

any suggestions for what i should do today bc sick

[jaunty galleon]

play grab bag

[vale sage]

gamble your live savings away!!!

ultimate time killer

[wanton lintel]

oop wait slashers out

[coarse merlin]

cooler negative

[astral vapor]

listen to bird brain by jamie paige

[cloud cipher]

Detonate the thermonuclear warhead you have very clearly planted in mongolia 3 years ago

[pastel surge]

antiblue deck

[wanton lintel]

i love birdbrain

[pastel surge]

i dont know what im gonna make it do

[wanton lintel]

how do you know abt that shit

[jaunty galleon]

i miss king gizzard and the lizard lizard i should move to tidal

[digital jungle]

play something

[cloud cipher]

+1 discard this is a completely original deck idea that has never been done before

[pastel surge]

isnt that red deck

shit...

[digital jungle]

i think thats the joke

[cloud cipher]

Mayhem is actually malware i have full access to your computer

[hard plank]

give me mods

[cloud cipher]

No it's Antiblue Deck™

[wanton lintel]

what chaos level

[plush hound]

mid yaoi

[pastel surge]

doesnt matter

[hard plank]

2 out of 10 chaos

[pastel surge]

yaoi is yaoi

[trail berry]

-1 hand

[astral vapor]

you need to be executed by guillotine

[pastel surge]

black deck without the upside?

[cloud cipher]

Criptido very fair deck

[wanton lintel]

-1 hand
X0.9 Ante Scaling

[tidal terrace]

@latent crescent i edit one line and the modules aren’t found :D

[bright shore]

Deck without Clubs

[hard plank]

X3 ante scaling but all mult operations go to chips

[cloud cipher]

Isn't that just bad checkered deck

Ish

[latent crescent]

crazy

[tidal terrace]

Gwuh

[tidal terrace]

I literally just edited the files LOL

[bright shore]

idk, its joke

[hard plank]

I'm adding a new boss blind

[latent crescent]

Show the error idk

[tidal terrace]

I’ll troubleshoot it more

I think ik the problem

[coarse merlin]

polychrome

[hard plank]

aikoyori

[latent crescent]

If you need help you can dm me

[normal hollow]

bomb

[hard plank]

try the updated version

i made it scale difficulty now

[normal hollow]

nice

[normal hollow]

funny

[tidal terrace]

Actually this can be good

0 base mult but 2.5xmult at final scoring step

Man i wanna code jokers

[normal hollow]

why are you doing ui then

[latent crescent]

Also @tidal terrace iirc redesign was last point in your list isnt it

[tidal terrace]

Yeah i thought i take a look today

[tidal terrace]

I can’t art N

I’m bad at pixel art

[normal hollow]

incorrect

[tidal terrace]

I wish i can code art

[hard plank]

what is minecraft

[latent crescent]

it's greg

[hard plank]

i guess i am adding a new operator

.,..

[unborn plover]

You guys, have no idea, literally no idea, how much time it did took me just for making...
this

[hard plank]

TENNA

[latent crescent]

[unborn plover]

discovery joke- erm I mean channel

[digital jungle]

no way is that mr (joker) jimbo

[quartz wasp]

Simply become a textpert

[quartz wasp]

I can absolutely imagine. Art is a nightmarish and miserable tribulation

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[tidal terrace]

I can make an ai that generates pixel art but that’s lame

[unborn plover]

....say that again

[hard plank]

how do i become an expert in art

[timid flame]

this is worse than chad right? or am i tripping. can get more triggers technically but hand has to be worse