⚙・modding-general

[astral vapor]

i have so many mods.

[jaunty galleon]

glad to be contributing my 127 🫡

[worn dagger]

Me

[vale sage]

balatro modding in 2055: hi guys check out my mod with 50 jimbollion jokers

[dapper forge]

what mods do you have rn

[worn dagger]

Add starspace

[dapper forge]

holy moly

[native gate]

huh?

how

[hard plank]

premium blind

[woven crag]

balatro premium

[jaunty galleon]

how many seals and enhancements are there btw

[tidal terrace]

SMODS.Font docs is done

[hard plank]

wow

[jaunty galleon]

HOORAY! i love DOCUMENTATION!

[hard plank]

@dusky heart

[tidal terrace]

I should probably make more documentation

[formal orchid]

yes

[vale sage]

woah, what's it do?

[tidal terrace]

Adds font

[worn dagger]

Limited offer ping me for cat pic

[hard plank]

i wonder whose pr

[dapper forge]

i just sold a joker for 9e11 monies

after only scaling it for 2 rounds

[vale sage]

ok yeah that's obvious but what can i do with it? can i change the in-game font that way lol

[tidal terrace]

I wonder who’s the smart guy who made it

[jaunty galleon]

actually no i HATE documentation!! i learnedto mod without documentation therefore everyone else has to suffer too

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[vale sage]

finally, gonna add papyrus as the main font to my mod

[tidal terrace]

Change your mindset
I hate everyone ->

[worn dagger]

Get lit on fire

[fathom gust]

what the fuck just happened earlier

[fathom gust]

i open chat just to see 50 people pinging mods

[hard plank]

this is actually noto emoji

[normal hollow]

always scams

[fathom gust]

ah

[jaunty galleon]

those who scan ☠️

[fathom gust]

i was gonna say why are yall pinging mods over an innocent image 😭

[vale sage]

ooooooo that's cool

[normal hollow]

nxkoo is not innocent

[worn dagger]

It’s was a scam that got deleted

[hard plank]

I'M THE ORIGINAL

[vale sage]

what did he do, i'm confused... 🥲

[tidal terrace]

Shenanigans

[worn dagger]

These jokers are pissing me off…

[normal hollow]

too many things to list

[soft thorn]

Damn did nxkoo get hacked

[fathom gust]

though this looks really funny

[fallow bramble]

Nxkoo is a scammer

[tidal terrace]

I don’t understand anything

N

[astral vapor]

- 3xCredits
- ArtBox
- Astronomica
- AikoShen
- Balatro Plus
- Bakery
- Better Tags Plus
- Bluestorm Yuri
- Cardsleeves
- Cartomancer
- Celeste Card Collection
- Colorblind Seals
- Cryptid
- Cryptposting
- DebugPlus
- Entropy
- Extra Credit
- Finity
- Flower Pot
- Fusion Jokers
- Galdur
- GARBSHIT
- Grab Bag
- Handy
- Holotro
- Hyperfixation
- JokerDisplay
- lovely
- Lua Patcher
- Malverk
- Maximus
- MiLKY's Bullshit
- MoreFluff
- MultiTextBox
- NeatoJokers
- Overflow
- Paperback
- Paradox's Stupid Ideas
- Partners API
- Paya's Terrible Additions
- Pokermon
- Poker Robinson
- Prism
- Project Moon
- re:Unlock All
- Revo's Vault
- Saturn
- SDM0's Stuff
- smods
- Starspace
- StickersAlwaysShown
- Strangelib
- Talisman
- Unjankify
- VallKarri
- Visibility
- Vocalatro
- Yorick
- ZokersModMenu```

[jaunty galleon]

OH MY GOD

[fallow bramble]

modlist jumpscare

[soft thorn]

Well your problem is talisman obviously

[fathom gust]

PROJECT MOON???

[worn dagger]

LETS GO STARSPACE

[normal hollow]

no joyousspring..

[astral vapor]

no, the game boots

[woven crag]

yeah

[astral vapor]

joyousspring crashes my game

[woven crag]

but talisman doesnt prevent booting

[soft thorn]

You need to add talisman in again

[normal hollow]

send me crash then

[soft thorn]

Twolisman

[fathom gust]

instant gamecrash incoming

[hard plank]

i want my mod to be as out of the box compatible but like

can't guarantee

CAN SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME

[dapper forge]

Do you like big number go up

[worn dagger]

No

[woven crag]

doesnt zokers mod menu do LTIERALLY nothing because it just doesnt fucking work

[hard plank]

DEBUG MULTIPLAYER MOD

WITH MY MOD

[normal hollow]

i want my mod to be as incompatible as possible

[hard plank]

aaaaaaaa

[astral vapor]

yes

[tidal terrace]

It won’t be aikoyori’s shenanigans if someone helped aikoyori make shenanigans

[dapper forge]

I just wanted to tell you that emerald is insanely broken if combined with glitched

[normal hollow]

i just did a jokerdisplay update for the multiplayer people

[hard plank]

you liked big numbers

that's your mode

[jaunty galleon]

for future reference

[dapper forge]

Indeed

[astral vapor]

imma try adding grab bag

i keep forgetting]

[jaunty galleon]

if you're on latest release try beta

if not i wouldn't bother

[lost inlet]

with talisman compat?

[jaunty galleon]

once i finish hex cards i'll drop 0.8p1

[tidal terrace]

I added one button to rhapsody and my game won’t launch anymore

Epic

[hard plank]

ui is like magic

[tidal terrace]

I’m gonna go eat lunch

[lost inlet]

i hate making ui code

[astral vapor]

ok wtf

im on the latest smods...

[woven crag]

a mod is foolishly requiring an smods beta version i assume

wait

[dapper forge]

holy moly

[woven crag]

no

[astral vapor]

I'M ON THE EXACT VERSION IT REQUIRES

[woven crag]

theres been new releases

[astral vapor]

LMAO

[woven crag]

no youre not

you have 0827, it required 0827b

latest release is 0827c

[astral vapor]

dawg.

[blissful brook]

scalae isn't it

[tidal terrace]

I hate fish

[dapper forge]

no, way weaker

[woven crag]

i didnt come up with the smods version naming scheme

[dapper forge]

just a genie joker

[woven crag]

genie joker is like really strong

[hard plank]

with multiplayer compat

[astral vapor]

how did we go from being stuck on 0711 to having multiple updates in the span of 2 weeks

[woven crag]

emergency fixes

[lost inlet]

oh

[normal hollow]

dont say that about me 💔

[dapper forge]

not as much as scalae though..

[woven crag]

i couldnt read okay

my bad

[hard plank]

i have my own talisman solutions

[lost inlet]

yeah i have no clue how that works

[astral vapor]

ok well now joyousspring works

[woven crag]

i mean if you use it on scalae it effectively multiplies the scaling of it by 5 the first time

thats pretty insane

genie joker goes crazy with low base values

[dapper forge]

500% don-chan and katsu-chan is crazy

[dapper forge]

real

and with powers

[plush hound]

where Tagngents

[astral vapor]

no, i like many jokers in game because art is prebby

[astral vapor]

no god please anything but that

[plush hound]

play tangtes

[astral vapor]

tangents makes my game feel dirty

[woven crag]

but

[dapper forge]

astronomica has some good looking jokers

[woven crag]

funyn gm construct

[tidal terrace]

Are you drawing the shader with love graphics?

[dapper forge]

out of the mods that ik and ones you don't have

[astral vapor]

installing it rn

[hard plank]

it's just the flame shader

[blissful brook]

I do it

[tidal terrace]

Yeah but how are you drawing it like that

[blissful brook]

too

[dapper forge]

just be warned you need omeganum or else you're gonna get infinity WAYYYYY too easily

[normal hollow]

i want to add achievements

[astral vapor]

i already have it

[dapper forge]

that's good

[hard plank]

agnes tachyon

....

[astral vapor]

ACNE TALCKLE

apricot turnip

[hard plank]

lumi admit I'm better at maimai

[dapper forge]

guys i think i need some more money for rerolls

[vale sage]

is tangents really that bad to yall 😭

[vale sage]

balatro 2025 money glitch 100% free

[blissful brook]

Yes

[sleek granite]

hi hatoving

[woven crag]

ah.... reroll hells... a true cryptid classic

[vale sage]

hi !! :)

[dapper forge]

True reroll hell is if you use wormhole deck and start with the cake joker

[dapper forge]

Actual balatro hell

[vale sage]

i honestly don't think it's THAT horrible.. it's a shitpost mod... 🥲

[dapper forge]

50 thousand rerolls trying to get an oil lamp

[tidal terrace]

Can you stop dumping your relationship trauma
Thanks

[woven crag]

i mean the actual reroll price is going to be completely insignificant to your money when you have that much

[vale sage]

having played this mod i really like the hand previews on some of the cards, that's super cool

[hard plank]

to be fair you are doing this to yourselves

[dapper forge]

Still, i don't really need jokers TOO BAD right now

[hard plank]

as in start with cake

[normal hollow]

i stole that from aiko but i only use it on one card lol

[astral vapor]

im playing joyous spring

[woven crag]

just play balance branch where its a fun joker

[astral vapor]

I DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY YUGI OH

[sleek granite]

im joyousspringing it

[dapper forge]

it's random 💔

[dapper forge]

what does it do there

[hard plank]

i know

[woven crag]

hold r

[normal hollow]

thats the fun part

[vale sage]

pot of greed! or something idk yugioh either 😭

[dapper forge]

why

[woven crag]

gains 8 free rerolls when a food joker is eaten

[tidal terrace]

Pc explode

[woven crag]

that resets the run

[dapper forge]

oh

why not just do it manually

[woven crag]

faster

[tidal terrace]

Hotkeys are faster

Blender taught me that

[woven crag]

but my point is you dont have to play with cake if you just reset

(or play wormhole deck on balance branch)

[dapper forge]

finally got smeared joker

now all my suits are the same

[vale sage]

smeared joker is very cool

[dapper forge]

hearty spades + smeared joker is a really good combo

[vale sage]

and awesome

[woven crag]

sparts

[dapper forge]

very

[dapper forge]

what

[astral vapor]

YEAH IDK

joyousspring is just not for me

[normal hollow]

weak

[woven crag]

spades + hearts

[sleek granite]

hm

[woven crag]

sparts

[sleek granite]

maybe i should present +Mult differently

[astral vapor]

i read my jokers but with no context, i cant enjoy this shit...

[sleek granite]

the way i do it completely breaks the UI scaling

large numbers dont get shrunk down at all 😭

[dapper forge]

well actually with smeared joker it's spades + hearts + diamonds + clubs

[hard plank]

chat assemble words please

[normal hollow]

most of the time all the context is on the card

[woven crag]

sparmonbs

[vale sage]

i see pear

[sleek granite]

yeah youve got pear in there

[vale sage]

and pearl

[dapper forge]

sparmonbs

[sleek granite]

pearl if you wanna get fancy

[hard plank]

you are required to use the card with the ! stickers

[vale sage]

ah i see!

[woven crag]

full

[oak kernel]

does this look sane?

[woven crag]

no

[oak kernel]

ok good to know

[woven crag]

actually

idk

[vale sage]

is "lara" a word?

cuz i see that

[woven crag]

no its a name

[hard plank]

".ts"

[woven crag]

ts

🤯

[hard plank]

pmo

[vale sage]

yeah but i tried "bob" before too and it worked as a word :P

[woven crag]

hm

[oak kernel]

yes i know this is typescript

[vale sage]

lara is very much possible

[buoyant kestrel]

why is this typescript

[sleek granite]

bob is a real word

[oak kernel]

because i started this in typescript

[sleek granite]

yknow what maybe its part of the joke that +mult breaks the fucking ui idk

[buoyant kestrel]

non-answer bro

[dapper forge]

just lost a super good run to intrusive thoughts

i was in endless mode anyways though

[woven crag]

shouldnt have given in

[dapper forge]

but ^2 money

[woven crag]

you already had e32 😭

[vale sage]

i wanna make a fucked up joker where if you do something it would spam the game over state every frame

super game over

[hard plank]

it's funny to see people lose their run from intrusive thoughts

[astral vapor]

what

[sleek granite]

because it means the intrusive thoughts

[woven crag]

its calculating

[dapper forge]

One time i had to leave my pc on while i slept for it to calculate

because it was my biggest score ever

[woven crag]

you know you can just abort right

[astral vapor]

at that point just abort

[dapper forge]

i wanted the score though

[vale sage]

what is it calculating??

[buoyant kestrel]

boring

[woven crag]

you can get way higher scores without looking at a grey screen for hours

just look at a stopwatch atp

[sleek granite]

chat what should i get for lunch

[blissful brook]

Cryptid fans having fun:
/j

[dapper forge]

I wish one of my mods had a deck that made rarer cards more common but wasn't as chaotic as the deck of equilibrium 🙏

[tidal terrace]

Kids these days

[astral vapor]

aiko what

[dapper forge]

i have to either suffer trough 5 hours of rerolls or have a completely chaotic run

[woven crag]

install script

lets you run code on run start

[dapper forge]

what

[woven crag]

the mod

[astral vapor]

dawg why is it making 120k calculations

[dapper forge]

wdym

[astral vapor]

i have no jokers, all im doing is spelling

[hard plank]

big mod pack

[vale sage]

for the funni

[woven crag]

https://github.com/lord-ruby/Script

it just evaluates lua code but theres somne examples so maybe they help

[astral vapor]

tried other decks

[dapper forge]

0 releases

💔

[astral vapor]

aikoshen's letters are the only ones that do that

[hard plank]

i don't think it should do that

[woven crag]

i mean you can probably just download the commit

[hard plank]

it really shouldn't

[woven crag]

i doubt this is a mod that would break much

[astral vapor]

well you have my full modlist

[dapper forge]

i really like how simple balatro's controls are

it only uses the mouse, alt, and f4

[astral vapor]

.

[fleet oasis]

left or right as a retexture

[hard plank]

no clue why it does that

[hard plank]

is it just the letter deck or does the sleeve+ some deck do shit like that too

[astral vapor]

lemme test

[astral vapor]

sleeve + some deck acts normal

[hard plank]

can you try

uhm

playing

thin your deck challenge

[astral vapor]

ok so the letter deck brings lag

[unkempt current]

Whichever looks more like a tarot to you

[vale sage]

i'd say right

[astral vapor]

i cant find it

[hard plank]

in hardcore challenge

[astral vapor]

OH GOD

[fleet oasis]

thanks it has two colors as the boarder but it would be weird if only this joker broke the grid (besides outline)

[astral vapor]

2 FPS

2 FPS

WHAT THE FUCK

OH MY GOD

[hard plank]

how many calculations

[astral vapor]

WHY IS IT AT 2FPS WHEN DOING ANYTHING

[woven crag]

because your deck is massive

[hard plank]

thin it

[astral vapor]

doesnt show it yet

[woven crag]

thin yo deck

[exotic tree]

What I hope to hear on dates

Sorry

[hard plank]

hi winter

what the fuck

[woven crag]

blunder

[exotic tree]

Hi aiko!!

[hard plank]

sincerely Aikoyori

[hard plank]

word bomb boss blind

[astral vapor]

i'll say that to you if it makes you feel better

oh god

[exotic tree]

Jesus christ

[astral vapor]

my pc cant handle this shit

[hard plank]

i thought you

uh

yeah

👍

[astral vapor]

MY MAC IS HOT

[woven crag]

thin yo deck bro

[hard plank]

does playing a hand cause the game to show a lot of calculations

[astral vapor]

nope

only on letter deck

[hard plank]

what the fuck

how about CCD

[astral vapor]

whats ccd

[woven crag]

from cryptid

ccd deck

the one that makes all your cards consumables

[hard plank]

I'm adding like 20 jokers

idk

do you like exodia

[remote forge]

Hello everyone !
Recently I installed the Cryptid mod on my game and the mod manager, but for some reason, when I installed and started to launch the game with Entropy On, It crashes instantly.
Does someone know how to fix it ?

[astral vapor]

doesnt do anything special

[hard plank]

i think ruby said to just not use mod manager for this

ok but why did it lag

IT HAS NO REASON TO LAG

[remote forge]

How do I do then ?

[hard plank]

AAAAAAAA

[astral vapor]

only letter deck lags

[hard plank]

but W H Y would it lag

[remote forge]

I didn't find the log on github to download entropy, that's why I tried on the mod manager

[astral vapor]

the latest smods fixed my legendary joker from lagging!

yay i dont need to do anythign!!!

[hard plank]

https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy

letter deck doesn't lag on my end

[hard plank]

try the latest main branch version

idk

[tidal terrace]

I thought ruby-lord made entropy

[woven crag]

😭

[hard plank]

😭

[astral vapor]

im on the latest main branch of aikoshen.

[hard plank]

what version number

[remote forge]

... From there, what do I do ? Cryptid was easier to install XD

[tidal terrace]

Place it into the mods folder

[hard plank]

https://github.com/lord-ruby/Entropy/releases/latest

[tidal terrace]

In %appdata%/balatro/mods

[dapper forge]

I'm pretty sure every mod has the same install process

[astral vapor]

0.2.0-alpha-250829k

[remote forge]

Maybe, but I found a tutorial for Cryptid, I'm lost without it 😂😭😭

[hard plank]

genuinely no clue why it lagged this time

[dapper forge]

download the zip, open it, open the file inside, copy all the contents with CTRL + A and CTRL + C, go to appdata -> balatro -> mods, create a folder with the mod's name, and paste all the stuff inside it.

[latent crescent]

no way entropy already?

[hard plank]

one more thing

does math deck lag

[remote forge]

Thank you ! i'll try

[solemn mason]

It just opens like this now.

[hard plank]

as in 150k calculate

[astral vapor]

nope

[hard plank]

what the fuck

it really shouldn't do any calculations

as in any more than necessary

[dapper forge]

did y'all know that gros michel is an actual banana type

[wanton lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029838311273021500.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=pvz1jacob

[tidal terrace]

Yes

[dapper forge]

it's now mostly extinct though

[tidal terrace]

Everyone knows that

That’s common knowledge

[astral vapor]

yeah i even disabled partners and it still does at least 10k calculations

the word was "wry"

[hard plank]

😭

does it happen with sleeves

or without too

[astral vapor]

no sleeve

no partner

no jokers

[wanton lintel]

fireball

[fathom gust]

the image in question

[remote forge]

Hum... didn't work, the game still crashes

[wind token]

im so shleepy

[hard plank]

does playing invalid word

do the same

[tidal terrace]

What’s the crash

[dapper forge]

Strange, only time i ever suffered crashes was with talisman

[astral vapor]

what

[solemn mason]

Mine's above, if anyone cares.

[hard plank]

what the fuck is going on with cards

[solemn mason]

My crash.

[hard plank]

today

[astral vapor]

whmi rearranged to whim and then the card is stuck on my screen

[hard plank]

oh well

[wanton lintel]

what if there was an aikoshen addon that just killed you if you tried inputting brainrot

[tidal terrace]

Update cryptid

[hard plank]

I'll go back and check i guess

[tidal terrace]

If you have a crash please before you come here update all your mods and steamodded to the latest release and not commit

[remote forge]

I thought I got the last one, i'll check

[dapper forge]

Why is every card rarity over rare so rare

[tidal terrace]

Old steamodded version

[astral vapor]

what the fuck is this

[dapper forge]

takes hundreds of rerolls to find one

[wanton lintel]

better question why the fuck are you playing "buam"

[astral vapor]

testing invalid words

[dapper forge]

buam 🔥

[normal hollow]

my money got ^2 nice

[dapper forge]

Intrusive thoughts?

[hard plank]

why does it happen to like the most vanilla thing

[normal hollow]

yeah

[hard plank]

sorry n

maybe i will nerf it

[dapper forge]

yeah awesome card

[astral vapor]

40k calculations on the word "slinger"

[normal hollow]

i think the threat of losing is not threatening enough

[tidal terrace]

Make it add the amount of money you have to your money instead of ^2

[normal hollow]

hermit:

[hard plank]

that would literally just be hermit

but without cap

[dapper forge]

not worth it at all

i think ^2 fits nicely

[tidal terrace]

It’s literally the same thing

[sleek granite]

what if intrusive thoughts had a 1 in 2 chance to spill water on your computer

[astral vapor]

dawg WHAT

[latent crescent]

[tidal terrace]

^2 is too much

[latent crescent]

fuck

[dapper forge]

add and multiply is different

[latent crescent]

aiko made numberslop

[tidal terrace]

No shot how did you know

[dapper forge]

it's a 1/2 chance to end your run instantly

seems fair to me

[tidal terrace]

You can just start a new run 😭

[sleek granite]

what if it was just like X5 money
i think the issue is just that exponentiation is inherently way too strong

[astral vapor]

and now its running at 15 fps for some god forsaken reason

[hard plank]

yeah i think so

[latent crescent]

filled event queue probably

[normal hollow]

do i do it again

[tidal terrace]

I think losing isn’t threatening like at all

[remote forge]

Well... I'm sorry 😔
I just had to download the latest shit and I didn't, now everything works, thank you

[tidal terrace]

No problem man

[wraith seal]

yes

[tidal terrace]

This is gonna backfire

100%

[wraith seal]

its just a 50/50

[astral vapor]

I PLAYED A WORD AND IT STRAIGHT UP PUT BACK ONE OF THE CARDS

[wraith seal]

hsr players deal with it all the time

[normal hollow]

sorry im a coward

[astral vapor]

AIKO

[hard plank]

what the fuck

[tidal terrace]

I thought you’re a high risk investor N

[wanton lintel]

aw man gambling got nerfed

[astral vapor]

i played the word "C U N T"

IT PUT BACK THE T

[neon orchid]

Wow dude… why would you play that…

[tidal terrace]

[merry olive]

they should make a mod that just insta closes the game after a set amount of time

[astral vapor]

australia

[latent crescent]

[astral vapor]

they already did

[merry olive]

need

[neon orchid]

Oh that makes sense

[merry olive]

name?

[dapper forge]

a word is a word

[astral vapor]

https://github.com/wingedcatgirl/Go-To-Bed--Minty

[merry olive]

thx

[hard plank]

sorry

[tidal terrace]

Out of 100 tries how many would you take 50/50 to lose the game but ^2 your money

[hard plank]

i may be stupid

[astral vapor]

why is this not a valid word

[wanton lintel]

thisll just make me play smth else lmao
i cannot be told when to sleep

[tidal terrace]

It’s not a word

[astral vapor]

it is

[normal hollow]

damn got no thought this run

[wanton lintel]

try yaoi

[tidal terrace]

It’s an emotion expression and more like of a sound translation to text

[hard plank]

idk there's been a bug recently

you can challenge the thought in the challenge

[worn bone]

+2 mult per card if on adequate difficulty

[tidal terrace]

Genuinely curious

[astral vapor]

not valid either

aikoyori...

[worn bone]

wtf fix this bug instantly >:(

[hard plank]

oh yeah this happened

if you want to try your luck at buggy version download the main branch

[normal hollow]

no i will never play your mod again

[hard plank]

like i got no clue why

[hard plank]

sorry

[normal hollow]

i have a meeting at work rn anyway

[hard plank]

I'll fix intrusive thought

please don't leave me

[normal hollow]

i liked it because i had bootstraps

[astral vapor]

how is this not a word

aiko

how is this not a word...

[hard plank]

i do not accept word suggestion

[astral vapor]

how is it not a word tho

[tidal terrace]

It’s a word

[astral vapor]

if it wasnt a word, why would it be sung so many times in a song

https://youtu.be/kcPFw26zjt4

[tidal terrace]

In Japanese

Not english

[normal hollow]

gorushi gorushi gorushi

[astral vapor]

teio teio teio

mambo mambo, omatsuri mambo

[tidal terrace]

You’re brainwashed with horse girls

[astral vapor]

ei ei ei ei mun, ei ei ei ei mun

[hard plank]

trauma dumping

[astral vapor]

https://youtu.be/6vwFnKLamKY

[plush hound]

weeb

[hard plank]

you literally

[plush hound]

nooning yes

[dapper forge]

is there a way to modify balatro and mod files to modify rarity

[latent crescent]

Why playing a word takes so much calcs

[astral vapor]

shouldnt that first letter be a G

[normal hollow]

i played goon in my run

as in henchmen

[tidal terrace]

Yeah absolutely

[astral vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PhwBOLX20x8?feature=share

golshi golshi golshi

[hard plank]

how do y'all survive on FUCKING BREAD

[astral vapor]

you got butter? margarine?

[hard plank]

honestly I'm tired of chatting

[tidal terrace]

I took this out of context

[astral vapor]

have u ever tried an untoasted butter sandwich

[astral vapor]

wait what context

[tidal terrace]

.before

[astral vapor]

(genuine)

[astral vapor]

bro i thought that question was genuine and u were in dire straits

[tidal terrace]

Sorry i don’t speak the milky way language

[fallow bramble]

Did you say bread?

[hard plank]

I'm so fucking done dude

I'm going to crash out

[tidal terrace]

[wraith seal]

instead of rgb we got brg value

{20,8,964}

[sleek granite]

bepsi

[wraith seal]

autmun

[distant badge]

hi chat

[hard plank]

I'M SO SORRY

[distant badge]

wha

the puzzle blind thing?

[hard plank]

yeah

[pastel surge]

i have made
something

[distant badge]

it’s ok to take your time on stuff :P

[dapper forge]

does anyone know how to modify the rarity of rarities

[woven crag]

use debugplus or script
for debugplus: eval G.GAME.<rarity key>_mod = <weight multiplier>
for script idk ive never used it but it should be the same minus the eval

[dapper forge]

i only understood the first sentence of what you just said

[woven crag]

i mean i just gave you the code that you can copy paste into the debugplus command line

[tidal terrace]

[dapper forge]

oh

[woven crag]

the rarity key is just the rarity name in lowercase for vanilla rarities

[dapper forge]

the one in #1209506514763522108 ?

[woven crag]

yeah

[dapper forge]

And how do i get the key for modded ones?

[woven crag]

theres one debugplus

[dapper forge]

and one plusplus

[woven crag]

plusplus is an addon for debugplus

[woven crag]

look into the mod code
though i will tell you that for epic its cry_epic

[hard plank]

I'm crashing the fuck out i can't

[dapper forge]

i already saw epic, just don't know exotic or the one from astronomical mod yet

[woven crag]

for anything that doesnt appear in the shop to begin with it wont do anything

[dapper forge]

(i was trying to change the rarity weight directly from the files but i'm too stupid for that)

[woven crag]

since it just multiplies the rarity weight

[hard plank]

pretty sure legendaries and higher do not appear in the shop

[dapper forge]

I'm 99% sure exotics appear since i saw them on equilibrium, and i'm not sure about the other rarity

unless equilibrium deck is just a special case

[woven crag]

in equilibrium anything can spawn

[dapper forge]

oh

[hard plank]

anything fucking appears on equilibrium dawg

[dapper forge]

that makes sense

[dapper forge]

that's why i hate it

[woven crag]

unless youre on balance branch.... (aka peak cryptid)

balance branch equilibrium is somewhat reasonable

because it doesnt spawn stuff that normally isnt in the shop

[dapper forge]

that actually seems fire

but sadly i rather not use balance branch because i need my big number go up

[daring sluice]

💔

[dapper forge]

i'll get withdrawals without it

[woven crag]

i mean ive broken the bignum limit on balance branch

its certainly still cryptid]

[daring sluice]

bignum isn't real

[dapper forge]

bignum easy

[jaunty galleon]

go test these for me ok thanks

[daring sluice]

normalize writing balatests

AHHH this server man

[main path]

epic gif fail

[normal hollow]

nah

[dapper forge]

i'd test but i'm too lazy to install a new mod while i'm struggling to do something else

[woven crag]

fair enough

though most of the exotics are untouched

on balance branch

[dapper forge]

icl some exotics are lowk MID

compared to the other ones ofc

[daring sluice]

think of the sick awesome automation

[jaunty galleon]

stupid FOOL!! you think i know what a UNIT TEST is ? HA !!

[woven crag]

its mostly the "you can never possibly lose this run" exotics that got nerfed in balance branch

[daring sluice]

ermmmm ackshaully they aren't unit tests ....

[dapper forge]

so like for example cola one didn't get nerfed?

[woven crag]

cola isnt nerfed i think

im glad it isnt because its highkey really fun

makes skipping good for once

[normal hollow]

i do all my tests by hand like a real dev (i push commits without testing and let the players find out)

[dapper forge]

i mean lowk i usually skip it when i do wormhole runs since i really dont like skipping

[digital jungle]

so how much did crustulum get nerfed

[dapper forge]

unless there's a cat tag

i always skip for cat tag

no matter if it ends my run

[daring sluice]

i use the hit mod too many jokers to speed up my tests install today at GitHub.com

[woven crag]

it got completely reworked
instead its now that you gain 8 free rerolls when a food joker is eaten

[tidal terrace]

Same

[daring sluice]

sponch barb based as hell

[woven crag]

cat tags... yum..

[digital jungle]

i see

[dapper forge]

does it still give chips

[woven crag]

im not sure

i dont think it does

[solemn mason]

Balatro hates me.

[woven crag]

talisman incompat momento

i love attempt to compare table with number

[dapper forge]

icl as a person who plays mods i love it when they work with talisman

because more big number

[solemn mason]

Eminem also hates me. That's why he does this.

[daring sluice]

abolish talisman

[woven crag]

true...

[daring sluice]

Has Numberslop Gone Too Far?
Numberslop is Done For Now...
Numberslop CANCELLED?

[lost bolt]

as a person who plays mods i love it when they work with nomorees

[lunar sluice]

peak mentioned

[dapper forge]

what's that

[lost bolt]

score limit reduced to 1e10

[forest knoll]

the era of numberslop is over. the time for exposlop is now

[digital jungle]

talisman that doesnt make every mod require compatibility with it when

[buoyant kestrel]

thats a bit low considering you can get over that in vanilla

[dapper forge]

i mean if that's your taste in mods then i don't really care

[lunar sluice]

you can get a lot higher than naneinf in vanilla but saying naneinf is a bit low is dumb

[dapper forge]

everyone likes a different kind of mod

[lunar sluice]

so i dont think thats a good criteria

[forest knoll]

when lua metatables get true support for comparing a table to a number automatically

[lost bolt]

i mean

[woven crag]

luajit2 would fix talisman from what ive heard

[lunar sluice]

yeah but dont tell them

[woven crag]

okay,

[lost bolt]

doesnt aikoshen have a solution that doesnt require modders to wrap number comparisons in to_big?

[lunar sluice]

then they might actually like talisman

[woven crag]

but i dont wanna do to_big anymore

[lost bolt]

like couldnt they just slap overrides of math comparisons into tailsman

[woven crag]

im tired of to_big around every comparison

[dapper forge]

icl i'm really surprised with how simple lua is to understand (atleast on a low level), like i can't code AT ALL yet i can somehow understand everything and change some stats

[forest knoll]

almost, but instead of crashing and burning when you compare a number to a table, it just says bignum(4) is not equal to regularnum(4)

i think < and > work fine, but == doesn't

[lunar sluice]

4 >= 4 -> false

🤯

[buoyant kestrel]

and also whats the point thats just putting a arbitary limit to how far you can progress
Perhaps just install balanced mods instead so getting there takes effort

[lunar sluice]

naneinf is an arbitrary limit

why not just use more memory to store numbers

i am endless' biggest hater

[runic kraken]

guys im trying to stick to the balatro palette but it does not really have multiple black tones.
how am I supposed to add a background now, when I want it even darker lol

[solemn mason]

Balatro mod that takes my social security number when?

[lost bolt]

i mean it's like

[lunar sluice]

i could play with no more es and basically never have it matter and thats how it should be

[solemn mason]

It looks good as-is, I think.

[woven crag]

i mean thats just because == isnt a number exclusive thing, its pretty easy to say that two variables of different types automatically arent the same

and it doesnt crash to begin with

[lunar sluice]

well no its specifically because crosstype metatables still dont work for eq

its the same issue

it just does nothing instead of crashing

[lost bolt]

not every joker needs to be changed for tailsman, forexample the utdr mod has like 4 jokers max that needed to_big/to_number for tailsman

[lunar sluice]

utdr talisman dependency is so fuckin stupid

4 jokers require to_big in a way that could easily be a non-dependency and it uses it in like 0 other places

[buoyant kestrel]

just do the funny

if not to_big then
function to_big(x)
return x
end
end

[lunar sluice]

to_big = to_big or function(x) return x end

[forest knoll]

yea it's reasonable behavior in general, but specifically for talisman purposes we need to be able to define custom behavior for bignum table == number, and lua doesn't currently let us do that

[solemn mason]

Okay well.
My planet needs me, et cetera, et cetera. Goodbye.

[lunar sluice]

people were never meant to count past 100

you can have e10 as a treat

ask for more and you might just be crazy

[lost bolt]

    local value1 = Talisman and to_big(val1) or val1
    local value2 = Talisman and to_big(val2) or val2
    if sign == "==" then return value1 == value2 end
    if sign == ">=" then return value1 >= value2 end
    if sign == "<=" then return value1 <= value2 end
    if sign == ">" then return value1 > value2 end
    if sign == "<" then return value1 < value2 end
    if sign == "~=" or sign == "!=" then return value1 ~= value2 end
end```

[lunar sluice]

meh its the same issue

which is that

why should it have to be different in the first place

[west hill]

does luajit2 have the metatable operator that's missing in the version we have?

[lunar sluice]

yes

attempt to compare number with table dies basically

but theres still other talisman jank

[woven crag]

better than crashes at least

[west hill]

there'll always be talisman jank

[lost bolt]

i mean why doesn't tailsman have smth like this already

in the mod, so comparisons are already changed

[lunar sluice]

not like it matters

[lost bolt]

i might be missing something on that front tho

[lunar sluice]

to_big(x) > to_big(y) and compare(x, ">", y) are like equally as annoying to be required to do

[forest knoll]

it's easier to see "oh, talisman crashed" than "oh, i'm trying to see if money >= 4 but it's not working when money == 4"

[buoyant kestrel]

the compare is uglier ngl

[forest knoll]

from a dev perspective

[lunar sluice]

i love having to do money > 3.999999

[woven crag]

or just do like

[lost bolt]

if only lua had operator overloading.......

[woven crag]

uhhhh

[buoyant kestrel]

the nefarious 3.9999999

[lunar sluice]

lua has operator overloading but it only works sometimes

other times it just defaults to the regular behaviour which is that it doesnt work

[lost bolt]

incredible

[lunar sluice]

specifically

[woven crag]

if not (money < 4 or money > 4) would work the same as money == 4 right

[buoyant kestrel]

indeed

[lean dune]

me when nan

[forest knoll]

yea but that's just back to "it's obnoxious to have to account for talisman behavior in your own code"

[lean dune]

me when floating point errors

[woven crag]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[lunar sluice]

in old versions:
overloaded operators are only called if both variables are the same type
in new versions:
the same is true for ==/eq but > and < work fine with different types

versions of lua i mean

[buoyant kestrel]

mfw transpilation required

[normal hollow]

thunk told me 1.1 is coded in rust

[lunar sluice]

there shouldnt be any extra steps required if your mod requires extra steps like this to the point where it breaks everything you should just not make it

[west hill]

I wonder if there's a way to actually change the primitive type underneath

[forest knoll]

if you're doing "numbers but break the lua limit" it kind of fundamentally has to be Not a number type anymore. usually it's a table, i saw one library that does a string instead, but either way that's not inherently comparable to a number without proper operator overloading

[lunar sluice]

numbers were never meant to have more than 308 digits

[tidal terrace]

Oh yeah

How many atoms are there in the universe

[lunar sluice]

hello i would like e9#1##e300 apples please?????

[lost bolt]

i wonder what tailsman does with math.huge

[lunar sluice]

nothing iirc

the largest omeganum is something that would crash your game to try and store anyway

[lost bolt]

so it's still just 1e308

[lunar sluice]

yes

[lost bolt]

that is a very funny bug to try to report, erm modder i have 6e308 dollars but i only get 1e308 interest

[tidal terrace]

Can we play an idle game instead of balatro

[lunar sluice]

local tbl = {}
for i = 1, 1e+308 do
tbl[i] = 1e+308
end

[buoyant kestrel]

Calculating...

[visual kindle]

That's too much can you give me 1e308 apples instead

[lunar sluice]

is basically how you construct the largest omeganum

as you can see this is a table with e308 elements

and before anyone talks about precision

this is strictly bigger than every other X{1e308}Y

because compareTo will check every single element in the array

[tidal terrace]

What if

We make talisman

[coarse merlin]

hi

[tidal terrace]

And it lets you score more than 1e308

[woven crag]

what about infinity{infinity}infinity 🧠

[visual kindle]

🧠

[buoyant kestrel]

explosion

[tidal terrace]

[lunar sluice]

infinity actually isnt bigger

because talisman

[tidal terrace]

Is nil > 0 ?

[visual kindle]

The math aint mathing

[woven crag]

Oops! The game crashed! (attempt to compare nil with number)

[lunar sluice]

compare doesnt have any checks for infinity

so its usually smaller

since its just

{[1] = inf}

[visual kindle]

Lua math aint mathing

[lunar sluice]

technically {[inf] = inf} would probably be bigger but unlike the other example this is impossible to achieve ingame

[blissful brook]

Chat, is there mod that makes wild cards a suit?

[lunar sluice]

since X{inf}Y will always return inf instead of {[inf] = inf}

[blissful brook]

Or shall I try to learn lua to make it?

[tidal terrace]

Be my guest

[visual kindle]

the math aint mathing

[lunar sluice]

omeganum infinity isnt the largest talisman number because of how comparisons work

[visual kindle]

https://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html start from here

then go here https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

[lunar sluice]

{[1] = inf} < {[1] = 1, [2] = 1}

compareTo is wacky but if everything is normalised it doesnt really break down

and infinity should also usually not occur

[normal hollow]

makes sense but it's funny

[visual kindle]

true

talisman math aint mathing

[lunar sluice]

its better this way because its a lot faster than actually trying to figure out the result

[tidal terrace]

I do agree

[lunar sluice]

in most situations it works fine

[blissful brook]

Who told me that lua is easy language, I don't understand anything, return me to python please😭

[buoyant kestrel]

do not the manual

just look at examples

[dapper forge]

what would happen if i just doubled the values of every exotic joker from cryptid

🤔

[woven crag]

its extremely similar to python imo
i started modding the game from just python knowledge

[lunar sluice]

nothing interesting

[coarse merlin]

is this good

[woven crag]

broken...

[blissful brook]

[normal hollow]

lua is easier, the manual is just bad

[lean dune]

do not the dog

[tidal terrace]

No

[coarse merlin]

Why

[tidal terrace]

Unbalanced

[coarse merlin]

But it's good

[lean dune]

it's powerful

[solemn mason]

Stupid question, but I don't know software things. Does every mod hate being 'nested'?

[tidal terrace]

If you like it add it

[lean dune]

that doesn't mean it's good from a design perspective

[tidal terrace]

You have free will

[lean dune]

no, but any mod that has lovely patches does

[tidal terrace]

Steamodded hates it

[lean dune]

if a mod is nested, steamodded will still find it

but lovely won't

[normal hollow]

i hate it personally

[lunar sluice]

lovely patches are expected to be in a specific place and if they arent it will break stuff

[lean dune]

so it gets loaded in part, often causing crashes

[tidal terrace]

Don’t make nests you’re not a bird

I have no idea what and how lovely patches work

[lean dune]

smods doesn't care

[tidal terrace]

Or what they do

[lean dune]

they modify game code directly

[tidal terrace]

Like

Shaders ?

Please say yes

[lean dune]

no

[lost bolt]

i am curious now, where does the omeganum limit come from?

[tidal terrace]

I hate myself

[lean dune]

they modify lua code

[lost bolt]

why is it specifically e10##1000

[pastel surge]

i think it doesnt get more busted than this

[wraith seal]

"Rare"

[tidal terrace]

Can i use this for ui

[buoyant kestrel]

rare???????????????????

[digital jungle]

mmmyes thats totally rare

[pastel surge]

i have not worked out how to invent new rarities yet

[tidal terrace]

I think i’m gonna do some funny stuff with löve

[lean dune]

yes

patching UI code is often cleaner than using function hooks, in fact

[tidal terrace]

I use hotkeys to bring up the ui

Lol

[heady sparrow]

For ppl that are like "but I saw infinity when I played omeganum!!", I believe that's due to how omeganum/talisman displays NaN, it's not actually due to you breaking the scoring limit, it's more likely that one of the Jokers you have is bugged

-# ruby can confirm if I got that correct bc she'd know more than me given that she literally co-develops Talisman

[lunar sluice]

NaN display should be fixed

[heady sparrow]

ah

[lunar sluice]

it used to display infinity but i changed it

because people saying they beat omeganum were pissing me off

[heady sparrow]

so that's why I haven't seen anyone complain about it recently LMFAO

[lunar sluice]

i want big number fans to know that they will literally NEVER get to the highest possible score

quit whilst your ahead

[heady sparrow]

still better than lovely patched mods having to be renamed lol

[heady sparrow]

yeah, the "highest possible score" is whatever you can get before an OOM error lol

which is still pretty fucking high

[lunar sluice]

the highest possible scores are both unachieveable for different reasons

one is {[inf] = inf} and the other is {[1] = 1e308, [2] = 1e308..., [1e308] = 1e308}

the first one is just not possible to obtain like theres no sequence of :arrows that will get you here

and the second one you will crash before you get there 100% guaranteed

[tropic harness]

Cant select multiple jokers...?

[forest knoll]

known issue

[lost bolt]

Tailsman's Over, Go Home: Mult = e10##1000

[visual kindle]

What you don't understand

[visual kindle]

How will you understand coding without knowing the basics of computer science

That's like

[blissful brook]

Clearly it will break

[visual kindle]

"Don't study math"

"Just look at equations"

[buoyant kestrel]

dawg have you seen that thing

[visual kindle]

yeah

It explains everything in depth detail

[buoyant kestrel]

EXACTLY. someone just starting doesn't need to know all of that and likely would be annoyed by it (like op)

[visual kindle]

Wym doesn't know all of that

It's literally the basics

💀

You need to know all of that

[buoyant kestrel]

i didn't. i barely look at that thing. i already had experience but still

[visual kindle]

Then you don't know the basics

[buoyant kestrel]

but i do. you don't need the manual to learn, you just need to start coding

[visual kindle]

You need to read the manual to understand the syntax then start coding

[blissful brook]

I just want to make wild card a suit😭

[visual kindle]

then you need to study algorithms

to understand the best way to implement each thing

[lean dune]

eh that's a little harsh, you don't need to know everything in the manual to be able to start coding. some people learn better by doing and just reference the manual when something's unclear

[buoyant kestrel]

you don't though. just start coding and you'll do it.

[lean dune]

there's not one predefined way to learn

[visual kindle]

You don't need to know everything in the manual though you need to use the manual

and you confirmed it

[normal hollow]

i never use the manual i hate it

[buoyant kestrel]

that is a different point.

[lean dune]

what's important is to know the general concepts

[visual kindle]

I didn't say he needs to know everything

[lean dune]

the manual is one way to learn them

[visual kindle]

I said he needs to read the manual

[lean dune]

but not the only one

[buoyant kestrel]

yes you did.

[visual kindle]

Sure point to it

[lean dune]

what's this

[buoyant kestrel]

what is this supposed to mean

[visual kindle]

I said he needs to know all of the stuff in the manual not the guy starting out

Very different things

one thing is me saying

"Ashen_Mist you need to know everything in the manual"

other thing is me saying "jamirror you need to know everything in the manual"

Ashen_Mist is starting out

jamirror has experience

[buoyant kestrel]

ah so you are bad at talking got it

[visual kindle]

The manual for him to read

[visual kindle]

More like you are bad at reading

[lean dune]

that was absolutely not clear from what you said and it also doesn't make sense

[visual kindle]

You said I told him he needs to read everything I didn't

I told him to start by reading the manual

reading the manual
reading everything in the manual

two different phrases with two different meanings

One is specifying what he should do read everything

[lean dune]

what I'm saying is there isn't one way of learning that works for everyone

[buoyant kestrel]

you do realize that you can't start at the manual and just cherry pick a few things to learn. you need context to do that.

[visual kindle]

He already has context though

he wants to make a Suit that count as a Wild Card

[split lava]

this is gonna sound bizarre but my game with mods only crashes when the fizzy bottle joker comes up in the shop - is the only way to fix this to delete all mods and redownload?

[buoyant kestrel]

thats not even related to the manual bozo

[visual kindle]

True so I just showed him the simplest way

[buoyant kestrel]

simplest!?!??!?!

[visual kindle]

It's related to the SMODS wiki + yes It is related to the manual as you'll be using lua syntax which the manual explains how it works + L rage bait

[visual kindle]

Simplest in my opinion(If that's good enough)

[pastel surge]

is it possible to differnate from boss blinds and showdown blinds?

[buoyant kestrel]

that was not even rage bait you vain toddler

[visual kindle]

0/10 rage bait

[blissful brook]

From what I can see, it would be better to just send vanilla remade

[split lava]

even when i reroll shop and the joker appears the game crashes its a nightmare

[visual kindle]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/wiki#how-do-i-change-the-name-or-description-of-a-card-dynamically

wait no

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/wiki

[formal orchid]

the wheel of death

[normal hollow]

in code?

[pastel surge]

yeah

[normal hollow]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/wiki#how-do-i-get-the-type-of-the-current-blind

also #💻・modding-dev

[pastel surge]

mb

thx

[elder pawn]

?where can i get the multyplayer mod

[karmic orchid]

balatromp.com

[lean dune]

Also discord.gg/balatromp

[tidal terrace]

I’ll be documenting more SMODS stuff in the future

[karmic orchid]

No suit

[dapper forge]

does that just mean it can't be in a flush

or what

[storm forum]

I still want to eventually add my own suit eventually...

[dapper forge]

or does it work like a wildcard

[storm forum]

Rank only.

[tidal terrace]

Guys stop adding suits

4 is enough

[storm forum]

The "Windows" suit is inevitable.

[solar sandal]

mod that adds 1 suit for every minecraft wood type coming 3033

[lean dune]

I am very offended by that statement

[forest knoll]

no. i'm downloading sigil right now just to spite you /j