⚙・modding-general

[visual kindle]

knowing what will happen

so you can change the outcomes

[blissful brook]

You can check wheel of fortune each time

Seems fair for legendary

[visual kindle]

At end of game you used wheel of fortune 200 times and it didnt trigger once

[full edge]

But to such extremes that I'm not sure it offers much as a legendary. Revives aren't actually very strong outside of specific builds because often you die not due to micro-scale misplays or bad luck (which resetting the game state would not help with), but due to your build not keeping up

[deft ore]

discord why would you put a gap there

it's 1 minute 😭

[blissful brook]

Because 1 minute later

[full edge]

So the way you'd wanna use it is as a scout, and consciously dying on the boss blind

[deft ore]

It should reset to ante start i think

[blissful brook]

Also prevents dumbass death to mouth/needle with dna

[balmy tangle]

Would making a face card not count as a rank but only a face card be possible without quantum ranks? i.e. jacks trigger photograph, but if you discard them they wont upgrade hit the road?

[deft ore]

no

[balmy tangle]

zamn
gonna need to come up with something else than, lol

[full edge]

Yes it would. You'd just hook get_id

[balmy tangle]

Oh, yeah that tracks

[deft ore]

nvm then

[balmy tangle]

yeah, okay thats doable. thanks

[full edge]

Face card checks are a separate function after all

Quantum ranks are necessary to be two ranks at once. Replacing rank is a lot easier

[visual kindle]

how quantum ranks works?

[neat widget]

unscored cards

:(

[ivory sinew]

Finally a good question from you. Quantum ranks are ranks that are not static

They can count as multiple things at once, hence their name

[visual kindle]

what abt the implementation how SMODS does it???

[velvet bronze]

this seems pretty good as a legendary in that case

[ivory sinew]

SMODS doesn't do it iirc

[blissful brook]

Bad wording. I know.
'Played but unscored cards ' would be better

[velvet bronze]

could you not just hook get_id and is_face

[ivory sinew]

Maybe they'll implement quantum shit in the future but for now you just have to manipulate the code to do your bidding

[full edge]

Powerwise, it's interesting, but I think you'd have to take into account that if that's the intended play pattern, you're doubling the run length and adding a lot of tedium

[forest knoll]

SMODS doesn't do it yet, but there's a pull request for it

[visual kindle]

yeah but what happens If there's something like
if card:get_id() == 10 or card:get_id() == 5

but it counts as 6 7 9 4 and 5

how it would know what to return?

[wraith tree]

Unfortunately, this seems to be incompatible as pressing a card crashes the game. Make sense considering it's a year old. I'll use this as a starting point for my own mod if no other mods exist. Thanks for the link tho

[forest knoll]

i think the PR implements a new is_rank() function, much like is_suit() already exists

get_id() will continue to get the base rank of the card and disregard any quantum ranks

[full edge]

there's a new mod called Fantom's preview, iirc, that's the current one being used

[visual kindle]

That makes sense

[west hill]

Cool new feature not coming soon

[full edge]

I'm probably wrong on the name because it's not popping up

[full edge]

https://github.com/Fantom-Balatro/Fantoms-Preview

[azure dagger]

oh no they said the word

[west hill]

Stop being a dick

[fickle yew]

Can anyone help me figure out what's going on with my balatro

[deft ore]

wait right

mb

[fickle yew]

I'm trying to start up the utdr mod and it keeps crashing

[deft ore]

what mods do you have

besides utdr

[fickle yew]

I turned Brainstorm off already btw

[forest knoll]

downgrade your talisman to the latest release (not the latest commit)

[fickle yew]

Gotcha

thx

[deft ore]

Days since there's been a talisman issue in modding-chat: 0

previous record: 0

[fickle yew]

Ok

[unborn plover]

And another wip!

[fickle yew]

geez

don't need to be rude

[deft ore]

not your fault

i hate talisman it just sucks

[fickle yew]

I've done this before lol I just hadn't updated my Lovely in a while

[velvet bronze]

is this yuri?

[fickle yew]

I like deleted every Cryptid thing

[unborn plover]

Nope

[velvet bronze]

make it yuri jk

[fickle yew]

Bc it was boring me

[deft ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1209506360987877408/1407240434132062349/image.png?ex=68a9ff88&is=68a8ae08&hm=b4d4780d9c94eafdc0f2fbd053fdd5d3f030c690b0be43d01fd1c58c1e762ce4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[fickle yew]

Ok it worked thanks gang

[deft ore]

not jk

[north crater]

ideas i had for a new set of cards : hanafuda !

lemme know what you guys think (or if it's unreadable lol ik my handwriting is bad)

[visual kindle]

I thought that idea was from someone else

[north crater]

wym ?

oh the fact hanafuda was taken ?

it wasn't really

it was more of a yugioh mod

but yugioh has hanafuda cards

[visual kindle]

ohhhhhh

[north crater]

example :

anyway, what do you think of my ideas ?

[visual kindle]

Cool idea I always liked the idea of hanafuda card(the second one not from yugi-oh)

[normal hollow]

again, joyousspring does have actual hanafuda cards lol

i dont think it matters tho

[north crater]

do they work as a different set of consumables tho ?

[normal hollow]

no, they're enhancements that work more like playing cards

you play koi koi hands with them

[north crater]

ooh that's why your playing cards looked like that

i thought it was a just a texture pack

i see

ok then im distinct enough

coolio

[normal hollow]

yeah

[north crater]

any thoughts on the hanafuda cards themselves btw ?

[normal hollow]

i think there are like 2 other hanafuda mods

[north crater]

uh oh

[normal hollow]

but they were doing pkayign cards as well

[north crater]

phew

[normal hollow]

sorry i still have you blocked so i cant see images on my phone

[vivid flame]

someone needs to make omega small nums

like very, very small

[north crater]

then unblock me for one moment perhaps ?

[normal hollow]

no

[north crater]

wow

[vivid flame]

+1e-3018 chips

[deft ore]

whats the point of blocking someone if you talk to them anyways

what the hell

[normal hollow]

they're talking about yugioh

i have to reply

[deft ore]

balatrue

[visual kindle]

I tried to emote with the 😱 emoji on the no message but I am blocked too lmao

[normal hollow]

also i clicked on it because i saw 12 blocked messages too lol

[vivid flame]

then whats the point

if it can be bypassed with... Talkign

[deft ore]

yugioh transcends boundaries

[normal hollow]

if i see a lot of blocked/ignored i know to leave the chat

anyway play joyousspring thank you

it has hanafuda decks

and koi koi mechanics

[safe wasp]

I think I may have gone too far 😭

[visual kindle]

😭

[balmy tangle]

cookie clicker gameplay over here

[safe wasp]

😭

I wanna see if I can make it worse though

but I'll probably only be able to see the results of it Sunday evening at this rate

[north crater]

putting it here again to get more thoughts on this idea

[deft ore]

just fill a room with stopwatches

it's the same at this point

[normal hollow]

im going to make a blind that the longer you wait the easier it gets

[honest zephyr]

that has a lot of jokers right...

[full edge]

one of the biggest mods there is, yeah

[honest zephyr]

i think i looked at the modded balatro wiki page for joyous spring and i saw joker sections

that immediately made me turn back around

[velvet bronze]

@normal hollow your mod is too good

[civic atlas]

joyousspring

[honest zephyr]

i think my eyes bulged out of my head like a cartoon character

[normal hollow]

it's like 25 jokers disguised as 400

[honest zephyr]

400?!?!?!?!?!?!;??!?

my bow tie spins around for a moment

[normal hollow]

more than pokermon*

*at the time of release

(idk now)

[honest zephyr]

jesus christ

[normal hollow]

theres hanafuda too

[honest zephyr]

i think that would literally double my joker count.

[full edge]

how many does pokermon have atm?

[normal hollow]

let me clone rq

404

damn

[full edge]

I don't think there's still a chance of me ever overtaking that, haha

[normal hollow]

im usually on par but pokermon has steady releases

[unborn plover]

How many enhancements are there 😭

[normal hollow]

one

[lost bolt]

jokerdisplay has ruined my life, everytime i download a mod and it doesnt have jokerdisplay support i get sad because it's such good qol

[normal hollow]

thank you

[normal hollow]

i should probably have this show all the hanafudas

[velvet bronze]

n can you do my joker display compat for me :3

[solar sandal]

hi chat

[normal hollow]

how many jokers do you have

[velvet bronze]

like 60...

[normal hollow]

too many

joyousspring is still missing the last batch lol

[full edge]

I should look into how the compat works

[lost bolt]

how many jokers does extra credit have

[normal hollow]

i should do it now actually

[lost bolt]

45

[normal hollow]

seeing this icon in the menu makes me happy

[velvet bronze]

pweaseee

[normal hollow]

this one makes me sad

[dense egret]

jo

[lost bolt]

i should probably give this joker support for jdisplay since egg has it

[buoyant timber]

Are spectral cards able to spawn in the shop in vanilla balatro? I can't find a voucher that does that

[lost bolt]

that is a deck effect

[normal hollow]

ghost deck

[dense egret]

hex deck

[buoyant timber]

Okay, thank y'all

[dense egret]

The soul not included

[lost bolt]

jokerdisplay support for playing cards clearly since i have ones that scale

[normal hollow]

i think somethingcom tried but it lags too much

[teal patrol]

do enhancements go above or below the rank and suit

[safe wasp]

aw man, missed getting to 10000 seconds when feeding my cats 3:

[dense egret]

what

[dense egret]

iirc, enchancement goes below rank and editions above

[safe wasp]

:3

[dense egret]

whats your set?

[wraith seal]

please

[safe wasp]

the jokers?

[dense egret]

yes

[lost inlet]

Again!

[deft ore]

do you have an addiction to watching stopwatches

are you okay

[woven crag]

Tone down the retriggers vro

[solar sandal]

kill your run kill your run kill your run

[woven crag]

Get yourself some emult instead

If you want big number

[formal orchid]

end the run 😔

abort!

[safe wasp]

compacted using the Yorick mod;

• 167 Hanging Chads (leftmost)
• 6 Speculo
• 94 of the double tag cola
• one of that hard candy
• about 150 Blueprints
• about 200 Chads (all being copied by the 150ish bleuprints due to one of the quirks of the Yorick mod (which also makes the Chads copy all the Hanging Chads))
• about 150 photographs
• 89 of the haunted candy bucket thing
• 58 of the applies negative to adjacent jokers candy
• 57 of the double values for adjacent jokers on boss blind defeat candy
• 54 Jimbo's
• and finally, 209 Yoricks

[deft ore]

that is NOT yorick

[dense egret]

13/13

[deft ore]

who is that

[dense egret]

hey thats perkeo

[safe wasp]

idfk why the texture pack puts Perkeo on Yorick 😭

[solar sandal]

you have too many retriggers

[safe wasp]

o yea I know

[dense egret]

well at least you have yorick, the mod

[safe wasp]

also got the tag one

otherwise the right part of my screen would've been full of 13 Glitched Speculo Revamp tags

but am gonna see how bad I can make it one more time

[dense egret]

what is that??

[safe wasp]

by using those tags, and that one Yorick (the mod) quirk

[honest zephyr]

hehehe...

[safe wasp]

revamp (code card): adds a tag that makes it so the next joker in shop is [edition] [joker]
speculo (joker): creates a negative copy of a random joker (outside of other speculo's/itself) when exiting the shop (this can be retriggered by joker retriggering jokers such as Chads and Blueprints)

[dense egret]

40???

[safe wasp]

Glitched has no effect on Speculo though

[honest zephyr]

rarity higher than legendary

[dense egret]

oh its a cool set

[delicate dust]

gng am i supposed to be playing entropy with cryptid 🥀

[solar sandal]

it doesnt require cryptid anymore so no

[full edge]

I don't think Entropy has required Cryptid anymore, lately

[dense egret]

one time i made a printer with Demicolon, Chad and (every 4 jokers sell creates a copy)

[full edge]

I should commit to reassessing the pricing of Kino jokers sometimes. I think I've got a good few jokers that are very mispriced

[safe wasp]

yea, both come from the Cryptid Mods, 100% recommend using the Yorick mod with Speculo though

for good reasons

[solar sandal]

nostalgic invisible?

[ivory sinew]

The Yorick mod?

[dense egret]

yes ty

[honest zephyr]

you get it from a soul-like consumable so yeah

[safe wasp]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1379859475862655076

[dense egret]

oh

[safe wasp]

makes it so you can stack jokers and save system recourses

[honest zephyr]

is the xMult gain too low for a rarity higher than legendary

[dense egret]

yes

it should be like 1.25~1.75 imo

[honest zephyr]

okay i'm making the increase 1.50

[full edge]

At 1.5x per card destroyed you're basically making it so you don't have to care about destroying cards anymore after one hanged man

[lunar sluice]

it does not

[full edge]

Maybe more a personal irk than valid feedback, but I'd not design jokers at a post-legendary rarity to be just stronger versions of existing jokers, because most jokers actually stop having their conditions matter once their scaling numbers are big enough

[lunar sluice]

activate condition once to win instantly just means that you only have to activate the condition once

after that you can just shut your brain off

entropy is almost ready

[honest zephyr]

ohhh does a joker already gain xMult when a card is destroyed
damnit how do i do this to myself

uhhhh

[honest zephyr]

gains x0.1 mult when card is discarded?

[dense egret]

well canio with face cards

[safe wasp]

but that one does with all cards?

[dense egret]

better yorick

[teal patrol]

am i allowed to ask beginner questions in #💻・modding-dev or will i be executed

[honest zephyr]

ughhhhhhhhh

[dense egret]

exiliated

[safe wasp]

😭

[dense egret]

nah is for code ask?

[forest knoll]

you're definitely allowed, but it's recommended to see if you can't find the answer in the SMODS documentation or VanillaRemade first

[visual kindle]

You won't be executed it'll be worser

[teal patrol]

alr

[safe wasp]

also, almost at 12000 seconds for calcing ONE card :3

[visual kindle]

You would hope you'd be executed instead

[teal patrol]

what i'm trying to do is make a card that's like glass but no xmult and 1 in 2 break chance

[dense egret]

hey, start a new run 😭

[honest zephyr]

anybody got an idea?

[safe wasp]

I wanna see how bad it gets first 😭

[dense egret]

you should ream RV, Reading other people's code also helps

[forest knoll]

yea you definitely want to check out VanillaRemade and the SMODS.Enhancement documentation then

[teal patrol]

yea that was the first thing i did but i guess i didn't do enough

[dense egret]

mmmm

[teal patrol]

god i cannot wait to get my dopamine pills

[honest zephyr]

fuckin...
when a card is discarded destroy it
each discard used gives x0.1 mult????

[lunar sluice]

i should pr achievements to vanillaremade at some point but for that id have to figure out all the vanilla achievement unlock conditions

[honest zephyr]

does this even sound post-legendary rarity anymore

[safe wasp]

so a combination of Canio (without the face cards requirements) and Yorick (without needing multiple discards)?

[dense egret]

ok this is pretty insteresting, i would say yes

[honest zephyr]

well it's not just a joker but better i'll take it

[safe wasp]

yea

it's 2 jokers but better

[lunar sluice]

its interesting

[safe wasp]

ph wait 3

trading card thingy

[dense egret]

fision jokers:

[lunar sluice]

the interesting part is that if you want to keep scaling it you need more and more cards that you dont care about

[safe wasp]

though that requires only 1 card to be discarded at a time

[lunar sluice]

and it doesnt scale too fast to the point where that isnt a problem

[safe wasp]

still quite interesting though

[lunar sluice]

you can discard 1 card at a time with this too but that means your discards are useless, and if you discard 5 at a time your deck runs out too quickly to get enough mult

[dense egret]

at some point you will end without discards

because there will be no more cards left in the deck

i like that

[lunar sluice]

you will eventually burn through all your useless cards and have to add more to scale more

[safe wasp]

true

though you could use DNA and a few blueprints and the likes to fuel it

but that takes joker slots

and isn't 100% efficient if you discard the max vanilla hand size at a time

so yea

[honest zephyr]

yippee!!

[safe wasp]

it finally finished :0

[dense egret]

"destroys discarded cards"

[safe wasp]

that took way too long 😭

[dense egret]

zzzzz

[honest zephyr]

oh yeah i could do that

[dense egret]

start a new run

[safe wasp]

anyways, time to do it again

[honest zephyr]

alr that good?

huh

[fiery vapor]

is there a way to add a pair or modify the card here as i seen in mods like multiplayer

[dense egret]

yes a lot of mods do that

[normal hollow]

no multiplayer tricks your eyes by making the card go really fast

[safe wasp]

Cryptid and Aikoyori's Shenanigans for example

[normal hollow]

joyousspring too :3

[fiery vapor]

well how do you do it or is it okay i can take a peak at the source code

[honest zephyr]

you know what?
i WILL install joyousspring.

[normal hollow]

https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/07ac415e0d444d78f44464ca3574040eb7e172d1/src/general_ui.lua#L710

[safe wasp]

is that the part that handles that?

[normal hollow]

ye

[fiery vapor]

thinking on having the ace either randomly change suits or have an enchament and the pair a vanilla or random joker or consumable

[safe wasp]

nice

[lunar sluice]

old entropy card mentioned

[safe wasp]

kinda sad I could not get Jen's 3:

[normal hollow]

for changing the ace i would look at talisman

[dense egret]

whats the new?

[honest zephyr]

When you know it's some Unjankify bullshit but you just can't confirm it

[dense egret]

oh pretty pretty

[dense egret]

i forgot that exist

[safe wasp]

is it normal for a 1015-ish jokers to get created on exiting the shop?

[honest zephyr]

PROBABLY NOT

JESUS CHRIST

[normal hollow]

it it were 1014 it would be normal

[safe wasp]

also, holy performance hits

[north crater]

chat, with or without dithering ?

[dense egret]

i think your pc will work fast if you remove the system32

[exotic belfry]

with

[safe wasp]

😭

I am not that techiliterate

[worn rain]

definitely with

[lunar sluice]

your pc will run faster if you pull out the power cable

[north crater]

hm

[safe wasp]

it's quite easy to do :3

[north crater]

interesting

[dense egret]

ruby

[safe wasp]

just takes a long while

[honest zephyr]

yo @normal hollow should i download the source code as a zip or should i download the release

[exotic belfry]

Pull out the wires

[dense egret]

you use Zokers?

[safe wasp]

laptop

[normal hollow]

both are the same

[lunar sluice]

throw the battery into the ocean

[exotic belfry]

Your laptop isn’t wireless
Pull out the wires

[graceful flame]

Hi folks!!!!

[lunar sluice]

hello youh

[safe wasp]

don't got an ocean near me

[honest zephyr]

Ah Okay

[graceful flame]

Hi ruby!!!

[safe wasp]

do live near-ish water though

[lunar sluice]

theres always an ocean near you the whole earth is ocean basically

[forest knoll]

mmm spaghetti

[honest zephyr]

JOYOUSSPRING ADDS GAMBLING THREE TIMES?!

I'M INSTALLING IMMEDIATELY.

[graceful flame]

I just finished all the red stakes in a single day :]

[graceful flame]

I had like 10 decks to do i think

[lunar sluice]

i just finished everything i can for entropy 1.0.0 other than adding music probably

[graceful flame]

That rules ruby

[lunar sluice]

release version tomorrow

aka whenever smods does a new release version

[safe wasp]

I think Balatro itself is now nearing the point of forcing me to end the run via crashing (the balatro is not responding type of crash) 😭

cause when I try to merge the cards into a stack, it just freezes

[forest knoll]

im re-listening to the reference you sent me right now

[lunar sluice]

nice

thats for the uh

alt path music right

i dont remember who was meant to be doing what

[dense egret]

your pc is begging

[safe wasp]

still not hot enough though

[forest knoll]

i think it was meant for the alt path yea

[dense egret]

what do you want from balatro???

[safe wasp]

I got my goals :3

[lunar sluice]

my main goal is to blow up and then act like i dont know nobody

[safe wasp]

just saw a balatro is not responding pop up for a sec :3

[dense egret]

@long jungle oh you're still here

[lunar sluice]

dave strider mention

i cant escape

[dense egret]

xd

[safe wasp]

but yea

my main goal when playing games is just to break them to the core

and in this case

make it suffer

[dense egret]

anyways, self promoting my thread again
#1407865124454273054

[honest zephyr]

i think the guy in the video says "my man go'... is to blo up... and den act like i don know nobody"

[lilac obsidian]

Just a question out of curiosity is it difficult to mod Balatro

[safe wasp]

not really

[normal hollow]

no

[dense egret]

ABSOLUTILY NOT :D

[lilac obsidian]

Interesting

I don’t have it on pc quite yet just curious

I wanted to try out cardsauce

[dense egret]

if you want a tutorial just ask

[safe wasp]

the way the Cryptid dev's recommends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUr0gXE77rk
(isn't cryptid specific btw)

[honest zephyr]

the card wasn't there

[safe wasp]

though idk how Balatro Mod Manager works

[dense egret]

tbf i wouldnt recommend cryptid for your first mod

[safe wasp]

o yea Ik

[deft ore]

hi astro

[safe wasp]

it's just that the way their video does/shows it is the easiest for me

-# and it is mod agnostic soo yea

[north crater]

chat, name a tarot card

[safe wasp]

Lovers

[normal hollow]

its not really mod agnostic

[dense egret]

im curious now, let me see it

[dense egret]

death

[north crater]

bet

[normal hollow]

it uses the version of smods zipped with cryptid

[dense egret]

oh

[full edge]

Don't use any cryptid related tutorials to learn how to install mods

[safe wasp]

wait what?

[full edge]

Cryptid's install process has always been confusing and their release methods were bad for the health of the modding scene as a whole

[deft ore]

Don't use ||any|| cryptid ||related tutorials to learn how to install mods||

[fiery vapor]

well that's a start

[dense egret]

can you make it hexagons?

[ivory sinew]

Damn

[safe wasp]

I'm sorry but what 😭

[deft ore]

assuming a flush that exactly beats small blind ante 1

5084 and a half score

[dense egret]

astro is ^^ balatro

When I have the PC I will do the rarity =^-^= its so fucking funny to me

[grave pewter]

YES IT WORKED

[deft ore]

oh yeah astro what are your thoughts on being a deckfixing joker

[dense egret]

no, since i know you draw in phone

[fiery vapor]

        local newcard = Card(
            G.title_top.T.x,
            G.title_top.T.y,
            G.CARD_W,
            G.CARD_H,
            G.P_CARDS.empty,
            G.P_CENTERS.j_joker,
            { bypass_discovery_center = true }
        )
``` any documention on how to apply an edition? i can probably do is make a table of every joker and consumable or something for the p_centers

[lost inlet]

why did you make emult commons

[deft ore]

what's wrong with SMODS.add_card 😭

[fiery vapor]

i copied from cryptid you have the right to shot me on sight

[deft ore]

never do that again

[fiery vapor]

i can replace it with the one in joyousspring

[deft ore]

is that a yes or a no

[dense egret]

I would recommend only using cryptid when doing unbalanced things.
like xchips or echips

[deft ore]

xchips is not unbalanced

it's just xmult 2

[dense egret]

i didnt say that

[fiery vapor]

cleansed

[forest knoll]

cryptid can be a good resource sometimes (e.g. the third-layer floating sprite drawstep)
cryptid is also an ancient crusty mess of old coding habits that shouldn't be referenced carelessly

[deft ore]

unbalanced things like xchips implies xchips are unbalanced

[forest knoll]

if xchips is illegal then lock me up

[dense egret]

nuh uh

[visual kindle]

it does though

[dense egret]

🤨

[visual kindle]

.

[fiery vapor]

if being sexy is illegal i'm a law abiding citizen 🥀

[storm forum]

🙃

[lost inlet]

i decided my mod only has echips rather than emult outside of like one joker

[woven orchid]

what the hell did i come in here to

[visual kindle]

"I would recommend only using cryptid when doing unbalanced things.(Pause) LIKE XCHIPS OR ECHIPS)

[deft ore]

english

[forest knoll]

xchipping it

[dense egret]

i said xchips is unbalanced

[woven orchid]

i’m going to chip my skin off

[woven orchid]

me when i make no sense

[honest zephyr]

^1.01 Mult for each diamonds played

[dense egret]

yea we are talking about cryptid

i dont see anything wrong

[deft ore]

^1 mult if played hand contains suits

[woven orchid]

xchips is identical to xmult though

assuming no exponents

[deft ore]

plasma deck

[woven orchid]

plasma deck is an exponent

[deft ore]

you have a weird definition of exponent

[woven orchid]

it’s just ((chips+mult)/2)^2

literally an exponent

[lost bolt]

does anyone else get scared you're accidentally introducing 100000 bugs when porting stuff from dev to main

[deft ore]

technically i suppose

[honest zephyr]

i feel like that's natural

[deft ore]

but it's very clearly listed as balance and not the formula

[dense egret]

wait the what

[deft ore]

who needs a dev branch anyways

[woven orchid]

if i say “multiply x by x” is that not just “raise x to 2”

[deft ore]

commit all your changes to main branch 🔥

[woven orchid]

it’s worded different but it’s identical😭 😭

[deft ore]

there's a difference i feel

[dense egret]

pls draw that

[woven orchid]

show me a number where n*n is not n^2

[dense egret]

0×0

[deft ore]

no like there's a difference between your example and plasma deck

[north crater]

done

[dense egret]

1×1

[honest zephyr]

9852652983

[deft ore]

hey what's 0^2 rq

[dense egret]

0

[woven orchid]

ok yes but it’s literally just the formula i stated

[deft ore]

hey what's 1^2 rq

[dense egret]

1

[woven orchid]

it doesn’t matter if it doesn’t directly do that formula from chips and mult

[deft ore]

and 0x0 is...

[dense egret]

0×0=∞

[fiery vapor]

wee kinda goes hard

[woven orchid]

the formula encapsulates how it starts and ends

[north crater]

chat, name a joker

[woven orchid]

orange

[deft ore]

what the fuck do you mean

[fiery vapor]

lucky chat

[deft ore]

not in the slightest

[north crater]

oops i meant tarot

my bad lmao

[fiery vapor]

oh

[north crater]

use of habit

[dense egret]

indeterminate

[fiery vapor]

uh

[visual kindle]

If that was true whenever I was hungry I could just eat 0 apples

[woven orchid]

green

[north crater]

i already finished jokers

[fiery vapor]

magician

or temp

[deft ore]

no???

[north crater]

bet

[visual kindle]

Can you divide 0 apples by 0 apples

[dense egret]

having 0 and having nothing are 2 differents things

[visual kindle]

0 represents nothings in math

[dense egret]

no

[visual kindle]

and you can't have nothing

[woven orchid]

0 sets of 0 is 0 things

[visual kindle]

cuz nothing doesnt exist

[deft ore]

you two are fucking with me

[honest zephyr]

joyousspring based

[dense egret]

:v

[dense egret]

yes

[teal patrol]

where in vremade do i find descriptions?

[woven orchid]

localization folder

[visual kindle]

represences absence of quantity

u cant have 0 apples though

[dense egret]

:v

[teal patrol]

cool thanks

[woven orchid]

i have 0 apples right now

[visual kindle]

show me

[woven orchid]

there’s nothing to show there’s no apples

[neat widget]

blud thinks they're the "show proof your item wasn't delivered" meme

[deft ore]

wrong i broke into your house yesterday and put an apple under your bed

[visual kindle]

then 0 doesn't exist

[woven orchid]

i’m not home right now

[deft ore]

shit did i break into someone else's house

[neat widget]

0 isn't a number anyway

[dense egret]

0 its a value

[neat widget]

0 is the portal between positive and negative numbers

thats why its portal shaped

like from portal

obviously

[fiery vapor]

uh is this normal

[visual kindle]

0 only exists as a math concept though

[junior rock]

now you're thinking with portals

[deft ore]

balatrue

[fiery vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1399449034984525864.webp?size=48&name=balatrue

[dense egret]

why it haves purple moss

[junior rock]

every number only exists as a math concept

[fiery vapor]

that's what i'm asking

[neat widget]

truth nuke: math is a concept

[dense egret]

EVERY NUMBER IS A CONCEPT

[hardy brook]

https://fixupx.com/elgoldarm/status/1958521973375664325?s=46&t=9Nn_ap7DApBdEg2IFY5uVA

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[visual kindle]

but I can eat one apple however I can't eat 0 apples

[deft ore]

counterpoint: pi

yummy i eat it

[woven orchid]

you all need to explode

[neat widget]

it is just wearing a lot of cologne

[dense egret]

pi only exist if i want

[visual kindle]

And fibonnaci numbers

[deft ore]

balatrue

[neat widget]

pi only exists so that 1 of 3 things can happen

[dense egret]

i need the context for this thing

[neat widget]

1. someone flexes they can do 100(101) digits (me)
2. someone flexes they can do more than 100 digits (super nerds)
3. someone makes a pie joke

[deft ore]

the balatrue image?

[neat widget]

there is no other use for pi

[dense egret]

yesey

[woven orchid]

9 is my favorite number

[neat widget]

circles don't exist they aren't real

[woven orchid]

are you proud

[neat widget]

what is your favourite shape

[woven orchid]

do you like the number 9 it’s the only real number

[woven orchid]

nonagon

[deft ore]

spriangle

[neat widget]

explain your answer

[woven orchid]

9 sides

[neat widget]

alright so you're being quirky for no reason got it

[neat widget]

you like patterns and stick to what works

[dense egret]

If you add the digits of any number greater than 9, it will be divisible by 9.

[honest zephyr]

what's the joke here

[woven orchid]

9 is the best number subjectively

[neat widget]

you can tell a lot about someone from what they say their favourite shape is

[junior rock]

yes you can. I am currently eating 0 apples

[deft ore]

its actually hexagons

[honest zephyr]

who made morefluff what the fuck does this do

[visual kindle]

No you are not

[neat widget]

you dont get to change your answer

[deft ore]

for everybody

[neat widget]

after knowing the subject of the question

[visual kindle]

also you can't throw 0 apples at someone

[neat widget]

that doesn't count

[deft ore]

if it's not you're wrong

[neat widget]

the means by which the askee interprets the question tells you how they work

[woven orchid]

arguably you can

[teal patrol]

Hello! This is the Evil Joke Explainer 7000 responding. I don't know the joke.

[visual kindle]

You can say you throwed 0 apples at someone but nothing would have happened

[woven orchid]

if i throw nothing it’s 0 apples

[deft ore]

morefluff was made by not mario

[junior rock]

yes I am? I'm not eating a negative amount nor am I eating a positive amount. I am not eating an apple. No apple is being eaten. 0 apples are being eaten by me.

[visual kindle]

Will it interfere with the physical world in anyway a existing object would?

[deft ore]

are you actually getting ragebaited by seu pai

[neat widget]

^^1.04 would be 3 to the power of (3 to the power of 1.04)

[woven orchid]

well it is 0 apples so probably not

[neat widget]

iirc

[visual kindle]

Then 0 doesnt exist outside of a math concept like other numbers

[woven orchid]

i think 0 apples is a good snack

[visual kindle]

Valid though

[lunar sluice]

0.04*

[deft ore]

i prefer 0 oranges

[honest zephyr]

okay
@wanton rapids what's the joke of unregistered hypercam

[neat widget]

if you had any other pfp than berdly deltarune

[visual kindle]

1^-2000 watermelon is way better ngl

[neat widget]

i wouldn't believe you

[dense egret]

who the hell vote inderteminated besides me?

[neat widget]

Unregistered Hypercam 2 was an old recording software

[lunar sluice]

i know because i checked the source code and also because i asked about this previously

[neat widget]

it was like the OBS of the early 2000s

[dense egret]

@honest zephyr i was joking, 0×0 is 0

[neat widget]

thank you berdly deltarune

[deft ore]

sillylittleguy and crystal

[neat widget]

very cool

also

[honest zephyr]

ohh wait right

[deft ore]

crystal im ip banning you from psi (/j)

[neat widget]

morefluff has crossmod with tsunami

obligatory tsunami plug

[honest zephyr]

something divided by zero is undefined

[lunar sluice]

basically X{A}B.Y == X{A}B with a {A-1}0.Y ontop

[dense egret]

0 × 0 = 0
0 / 0 = inderteminated

[lunar sluice]

for example

[neat widget]

anything divided by 0 is infinity

infinite 0s can go into any other number

[deft ore]

x/0 = infinity unless x = 0 then x/0 = 39.2

[neat widget]

though a lot of computers treat dividing by 0 as equalling 0 to avoid errors

[lunar sluice]

2^^^2.5 == 2^^2^^2^^0.5

[outer geode]

Has anyone gotten this crash before?

[lunar sluice]

floating point specifically defines 0 division like this
1/0 = inf
-1/0 = -inf
0/0 = nan
nan/0 = i forgot

nan/0 is also 0

[deft ore]

anything with nan is nan i think

[deft ore]

someone fucked up a deckskin

[neat widget]

there is a case to be made that 0/0 is 1

[dense egret]

so apple × 3 is just nan?

[deft ore]

fuck 0/0 what about 0^0

[outer geode]

Oh

[dense egret]

what a fraud

[dense egret]

1

[lunar sluice]

0/0 is just undefined because the value that makes the most sense depends on your use case and it also doesnt really make sense if youre using arithmetic the way a regular person usually does

[deft ore]

balatrue

[lunar sluice]

theres a bunch of different ways to approach what the value might be using different limits and they give different results

[neat widget]

i am imagining all of your words being spoken by berdly

and now I wish there was some kind of deltarune objection.lol that this could be recreated in

[dense egret]

I've been doing that for 2 months

[lunar sluice]

i mean the famous example for 1/0 is taking the limit from the negative side and the positive side

going from the left of the graph of 1/x to the right will approach -infinity and the right to the left will approach infinity and thats why floating point is like that probably

[honest zephyr]

man idk i'm not a math magician

[deft ore]

like https://www.demirramon.com/generators/undertale_text_box_generator ?

[fickle yew]

Um

Yeah

[dense egret]

its a simple rule
n^0 = 1
why?
i forgot

[fickle yew]

I was scoring about e1475

[neat widget]

not really

objection.lol lets you do whole scenes and dialogue interactions

[fickle yew]

Before my game force quit because it didn't want to handle 853 gold cards

[lunar sluice]

0^n = 0 is also a "rule"

[deft ore]

n^a times n^b = n^(a+b)

[dense egret]

well makes sense

[neat widget]

I think hamburgers and cheeseburgers go well with fries

[lunar sluice]

the reason 0^0 is undefined is because theres these 2 seperate cases which clash with eachother

[neat widget]

that's the only rule I need

[dense egret]

JAJA

[deft ore]

so n^0 has to be the multiplicative identity 1

because adding 0 does nothing

[dense egret]

iirc it depends with what math are you working right?

[neat widget]

adding 0 does something

[north crater]

done

[neat widget]

it wastes your time

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[lunar sluice]

probably

[deft ore]

balatrue

[lunar sluice]

i dont know all of math unfortunately

[north crater]

chat, name a tarot card

[neat widget]

name every number

aeon

[lunar sluice]

0

[north crater]

wait wtf

[deft ore]

pi

[lunar sluice]

0.00....

[honest zephyr]

REROLLLL!!!

[north crater]

localthunk changed his pfp

look

[deft ore]

there we go that's every number

[neat widget]

aliester crowley made an alternate deck of tarot cards which contains a few changes

but aeon is the only one that i care about

so that counts

to your prompt

[honest zephyr]

thank you ruby for all the tboi references in entropy ❤️

[dense egret]

X xd

[deft ore]

oh yeah mb

[deft ore]

forgot e

[honest zephyr]

is there d infinity yet

[deft ore]

there we go now thats every number

[lunar sluice]

crossmod with cryptid but yes

[neat widget]

wait that's totally the art for a new joker

[deft ore]

captcha joker

[lunar sluice]

i dont think its 1:1 the art because its not pixel art

but it might be inspiration

[neat widget]

or is that what he wants us to think

do you guys remember when thunk said "gameplay update 2025"

[deft ore]

thunk isn't toby "tricky" fox

[neat widget]

i thought his middle name was the

[honest zephyr]

ah right

[lunar sluice]

theres a bunch of other non tboi references in entropy too

[deft ore]

his full name is toby tony robert the tricky fox jr

[dense egret]

theres a mod with all dice from TBOI

[neat widget]

plot twist, effect 5 boosts the value of the base effect "cycles between 6 effects" such that if it reaches "cycles between 7 effects" it unlocks an additional 7th effect

[dense egret]

what the leds do?

[dense egret]

i didnt know you can change the description

[neat widget]

going to assume you know why there is no green/yellow LED?

[lunar sluice]

changing descriptions is super easy

[dense egret]

how

[neat widget]

take the description and put it somewhere else

[honest zephyr]

is entropy better without cryptid

[lunar sluice]

intended experience is probably without cryptid but theres a ton of crossmod

[honest zephyr]

asking because i feel like my mod list would wag it's finger at cryptid

[azure dagger]

Honestly, you'll enjoy Balatro a lot more WITHOUT Cryptid making it a cakewalk.

[deft ore]

my impact is finally felt

[dense egret]

oh it is really this easy, ty

YEAAAAAAAA

can i make a joker out of it?

[worn dagger]

Can has cheburger

[honest zephyr]

the sentence at the bottom should've been changed to
"Hello I would like 7eee892 chips please"

[neat widget]

that sucks

[honest zephyr]

evil third

[neat widget]

increase numerator by 1 after each blind defeated
destroyed after 8 blinds defeated

[honest zephyr]

make it .25 xChips

[worn dagger]

evil third?

[neat widget]

food joker that affects probability

look at me go

[dense egret]

:3

[lunar sluice]

food joker that effects probability...

i should steal that for post 1.0.0 entropy content

[honest zephyr]

just realized that if you make it .25 xChips gain it shares the scaling of lucky cat

[neat widget]

can you add a splash fusion to it as well

[north crater]

high priestess

[lunar sluice]

econ food joker is something i have though

[honest zephyr]

i was just saying .25 xChips because it would eventually make it even

instead of having 1.99 xChips

[north crater]

name a tarot card

[neat widget]

aeon

[north crater]

bet

[lunar sluice]

the highest priestess

[honest zephyr]

x1.99 Chips is evil

[lunar sluice]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[worn dagger]

Thanks mods 👍

[deft ore]

thanks mods

[neat widget]

much obliged

[honest zephyr]

did mr. beast really make a crypto casino or is that mr. fraud beast

[worn dagger]

Fraud

[lunar sluice]

like mr beast isnt already a fraud lol

[deft ore]

fraud

[honest zephyr]

oh ewww

[deft ore]

mrbeast would never advertise on discord

[honest zephyr]

i hate it when people fake youtubers just to trick people

it feels so scummy

[deft ore]

he would advertise on youtube to his impressionable child audience

[lunar sluice]

please download honey please

[neat widget]

real and true

[lunar sluice]

download

[hardy brook]

Oh this is wholesome on wplace

[lunar sluice]

what does he even promote these days

[worn dagger]

REAL

[hardy brook]

Someone put hearts on the ortalab

[honest zephyr]

they have friends!!! yippee!!!

[lunar sluice]

its literally been proven that he has deceptive ad timers in his videos at the bare minimum

even if you dont believe anything else about him

[neat widget]

team clean-up-less-water-pollution-in-1-year-than-is-output-in-a-day-seas

[honest zephyr]

good thing i got ublock origin before google was like "NO. YOU MUST WATCH ADS ON YOUTUBE."

[deft ore]

his intentions are... well maybe not good but at least decent

[neat widget]

wrong

[lunar sluice]

team seas or team trees or whatever is of course a nice initiative but mr beast would never actually support anything that will actually offset the effects of climate change a noticable amount

[neat widget]

draw 4 cards

[worn dagger]

Mr. Bean

[hardy brook]

This is my next project for wplace

[lunar sluice]

its really obvious that they were never going to have an actual effect on anything

[worn dagger]

We love Mr bean

[lunar sluice]

if you just

look at the data

you could figure this out

[neat widget]

the best thing about team trees/seas is that alan becker makes an animation every time the initiatives get out

[lunar sluice]

1% of 1% of a difference isnt a real difference its just pandering so you look better

[hardy brook]

"Soriyuki" with with a group called "0The Fool"

[neat widget]

and I get to see more of the funny little colored stickmans

[hardy brook]

That's who put the hearts on the orta

[honest zephyr]

oh and ruby quick question
does the freaky edition still exist if you don't have cryptid installed as well

[lunar sluice]

yes

[deft ore]

why would freaky need cryptlib

[lunar sluice]

most of the content does other than like some jokers and obviously the cryptid inversions

[honest zephyr]

Freak Level: Infinite

[lunar sluice]

what did aikoyori mean by this?

[woven crag]

Why ruby freaky

[lunar sluice]

this is a thing you could encounter in a run btw

[neat widget]

this is a thing you could encounter in a run btw

[woven crag]

True..

[worn dagger]

Not 🔥 it’s 💧

[woven crag]

Mb

[worn dagger]

Knock off

[honest zephyr]

Freak Level: Infinite
(insert that one cat gif here)

[neat widget]

what happened to him

[worn dagger]

He’s fake don’t worry

[north crater]

i feel like i cooked with that one, what do you think ?

[neat widget]

what does that edition do

[honest zephyr]

okay that actually looks freaky as hell

[deft ore]

xlog69(chips) chips

[teal patrol]

ok so i'm adding a new enhancement, loop cards, but i just realized the current effect is just red seal but an enhancement

[lunar sluice]

its very stupid

[neat widget]

english please

[teal patrol]

so what should i do

[north crater]

chat, name a tarot card

[teal patrol]

change effect? keep it as is? remove it entirely?

[neat widget]

be more original

[deft ore]

logarithm base 69 of chips is applied as xchips

[neat widget]

thats the root of your problem

[teal patrol]

duh

[neat widget]

well then problem solved

:)

[teal patrol]

not exactly because now i need to think of a new effect

[lunar sluice]

idea for loop cards

[neat widget]

retrigger the card opposite to the loop card in scored hand

[north crater]

that'd be funny lol

[lunar sluice]

if hand contains 2 loop cards & last scored card is a loop card
restart scoring from the first loop card

[neat widget]

if loop card is first card, retrigger 5th card

[honest zephyr]

it's also very 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂

[deft ore]

spawns loop from in stars and time

[lunar sluice]

(only works once per hand)

[deft ore]

not as a joker they're just there

[teal patrol]

hm... neat idea but i think it just feels a bit too complicated

[honest zephyr]

"Where the fuck am I"

[neat widget]

oh my god portal

no way

hold on is that 5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel??

[lost inlet]

my self insert joker with freaky is Peak Freak (citation needed)

[worn dagger]

You shall do as an appetizer

[feral marlin]

So. Yeah. I think this might be a dead run. Because Overflow instantly crashes and my laptop is running at like 0.25 frames a second.

Which kinda sucjs

[trail berry]

hi guyz

[feral marlin]

Sucks

[feral marlin]

This run was going insane

[deft ore]

hi poker

[honest zephyr]

alright start another run

[worn dagger]

(See I’m funny [lie] guys)

[neat widget]

your concept but good

Portal
X2 boss blind size
must complete a randomly selected objective during boss, otherwise, lose the run
<insert upside>

[feral marlin]

But this was my best run ever. It might even be an infinity run.

[feral marlin]

Maybe I’ll just play roblox while I wait

[honest zephyr]

you have reached the limit.

[worn dagger]

But retrigger all jokers (excluding this one)

[neat widget]

no

[lost inlet]

you're gonna love my mod adding an extra loss condition past ante 8

[neat widget]

you're gonna love jokebox

[feral marlin]

I don’t even know if I’ve reached the limit because I can’t go to the blind to see if my score is Infinity

[feral marlin]

Because its still creating planets

[neat widget]

i cooked with this one ngl

[worn dagger]

MOVE YOU

[worn dagger]

DO IT

[trail berry]

LMFAO

[neat widget]

i love my mod its super cool you should all get it

[feral marlin]

I literally can’t. I can’t do anything. I need a mod that can like, stop planet creation mid creation

[worn dagger]

lmao

[feral marlin]

Like just manually end it

[dense egret]

install overflow

[deft ore]

Just sell your perkeos

[lunar sluice]

overflow should not crash

[feral marlin]

Not even overflow can handle 16k+ planets being created at once

It instantly crashed

[lunar sluice]

it should be able to

[deft ore]

START A NEW RUN

you do not need that many planets 😭

[feral marlin]

I sent the crash report

[lunar sluice]

overflow should be able to handle about 1 million planets being created at once before stuff starts to slow down

[feral marlin]

Wait you think I might’ve surpassed 1million planets.

Ok I need to talk to the UT/DR creator

[lunar sluice]

meh probably not

it wouldnt crash it would just get really laggy

or if it crashed it would be a "balatro is not responding" type of deal

[feral marlin]

How the fuck does copying you with you cause this to happen.

[neat widget]

don't you just hate when your joker rolls the 1 in 15 chance to get <PLACEHOLDER QUIP> 3 times in a row

[feral marlin]

Like it is like 4 yous

But still

It shouldn’t exponentially grow

[worn dagger]

I gtg for a bit

[feral marlin]

I just think the exponential growth of you might be a bug

[feral marlin]

Kinda like double chicot

[north crater]

wheel o' fortune

[honest zephyr]

i think i'm getting autumn circus since this is based as hell

god damn it

[deft ore]

based

[north crater]

chat, name a tarot card

[formal orchid]

strength

[north crater]

bet

[forest knoll]

paperback has similar jokers :3

[honest zephyr]

but uhhh...???

[deft ore]

what do you need talisman for anyways

[honest zephyr]

ut/dr mod

[formal orchid]

you can manually edit thac to make it compatible

[deft ore]

just remove the talisman from utdr

[dense egret]

ugh i forgot to made this

[honest zephyr]

ehhhhh

[deft ore]

and put in to_big = to_big or function(x) return x end

[formal orchid]

makes sense actuallly

[neat widget]

my mod isn't big enough to justify not working with talisman

[formal orchid]

anyways

do whichever

[neat widget]

I need as many people as possible to be able to play it

[honest zephyr]

okay so how do i do this.

[deft ore]

open main.lua and put that somewhere in there

[honest zephyr]

what if there's an Evil Dependency note in the json

[formal orchid]

you also need to put every game table in to_big

[lunar sluice]

if only ut/dr mod had a github i could easily pr it to not need talisman

[deft ore]

take it out then

[dense egret]

is quite strange you need to download it from google drive

[honest zephyr]

yeah ut/dr mod is a bit odd in its download method

[lost inlet]

i also wish it had one

[formal orchid]

why doesnt ut/dr have a github anyway :/

[honest zephyr]

technically you could like. port it to github? maybe? with the creator's permission?

[deft ore]

same reason they don't have talisman optional

[lunar sluice]

if anyone can get me in contact with ari lmk

ill become lead dev of another mod and fix it

[formal orchid]

i assume its the creator's wish then

[deft ore]

ruby they should make you lead dev of everything

i believe in you

[woven crag]

Who the fuck is ari

[deft ore]

utdr mod dev

[formal orchid]

yes

they both have talisman as a conflict

[deft ore]

strip the talisman from utdr instead

what do you need talisman for

[lunar sluice]

tbh

if you remove the dependency in the json

and use cryptlib instead of talisman

it might just work

[deft ore]

play upgraded then

soon i will have an astro version talismanless

i need to finish decks first though

[lunar sluice]

let me see if i can get in contact with ari

[deft ore]

btw what do you think chasm should do

[kindred herald]

Does anyone know how the edition deck from cryptid works I keep clicking and it doesn't work

[honest zephyr]

i'm up for engineer ingenuity.

[graceful flame]

every time you post this it becomes more true

[deft ore]

i'm thinking about a complete rework of chasm to be more of its own thing

[honest zephyr]

although i dunno if any of my other mods require talisman

[north crater]

done

[formal orchid]

nice

[lunar sluice]

privated twitter account and no other contact link

h

do i have to dm vio on tumblr or something this succks

[north crater]

chat, name a tarot card

[deft ore]

maybe you can like fall down an ante?

[honest zephyr]

i mean what are. what are the chances. right????

[formal orchid]

wheres https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325147180280971294 😔

[deft ore]

doesnt look like anything does

[honest zephyr]

take One look
please judge

[lost inlet]

utdr would also benefit from just being able to be updated to newer smods versions
and it'd make it easier to develop mod compat stuff

[deft ore]

also add https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1385061686200762488

[woven crag]

Theyre also on bluesky ig

[lost inlet]

and people using my self-insert joker with You would be funny because they have the exact same effect

[velvet bronze]

what website?

[deft ore]

someone should just upload it to github anyways

[velvet bronze]

i need to add my mod to websites...

[lunar sluice]

i found the discord because i had a neuron activation moment of something i saw in modding_dev one time

[deft ore]

if they don't like the unofficial upload: make an official one