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Well tbf they're just refactors of mechanics I've already designed, haha
I wanna try balatro goes kino now but . I have to at least pretend im gonna sleep,,,,
Rule 1 exists
Counters is taking the most time because it's learning how to set it up well as an API, and I'm fully changing the code for how they work, but spells should be a very easy conversion, I think
ty
because you put it off until you had five to do!!!
how does your Spells mechanic work, at least rn?
making easy to use APIs that are fully feature complete is a task tbf
wuh. spells?
I remember you explaining it to me before but I want to be reminded
can I be a poker wizard is that what spells are or is that a different thing
something something different ranks/suit combos make unique spells, depending on length as well
Yeah, my assumption is that I'll have to make changes and do maintenances for a good long while after I put the base for these out, haha. But outside of my wanting to force my mechanics upon other mod devs with a bit more ease, writing API code is probably just a good skill to develop as a programmer
yeah
This is the easiest way to explain, probably, haha. And some jokers will cast a random spell, while there are consumables and enhancements that cast them based on teh cards in your hand, atm
haha, there's always a tomorrow
but tomorrow I gotta try an figure out how joker code woorks,,,
I'm proooobably not deleting my mod tonight, so sleeping can comfortably be prioritized 😛
I've got access to Ice's github account and I'll delete Kino tonight
nxkoo
whats your favorite qol mod? besides handy
Nini
i knew i shouldn't have made my password just 'movies'
woah this is cool looking is this a new collection page for blockbuster era spells
probably galdur
already
logging in
huh
I’ve updated the handy mod in my folder, but I don’t know where to put the “lovely.toml”
oh you asked nxkoo specifically
and I just realized im gonna have to make variations of my queen joker for the other face cards,, hopefully her boyfriends will look less like jotaro
thought that was more open ended mb
nah anyone
ah okay
minininlla is just asking everyone what their fav qol mods are and theres a list of wrong answers but you dont get to know until you say them
dont worry, i need everyone opinion
trust, you just need to back-up Kino_Final_RealFinal_V1_Finished_Completed_ActuallyDone_WIP
No, this is in Kino already, haha. Every object that casts a spell now has a little line saying 'press s to open the spellbook'. It's there because I think spellcasting's very hard to figure out if you don't figure out how it works by looking at the code, haha
my top 3 qol mods are handy, galdur, and of course the one... the only... potentially the BEST mod to EVER be created.. it is without a doubt typist
Quality Of Life:
- Handy
- Galdur
- Incantation
- Cartomancer
- NextAntePreview
- JokerDisplay
- DismissAlert
- Flower Pot
- Blueprint
- Malverk (Texture Pack Manager)
- Condensed UI (for cleaner UI)
- UnBlind (NextAntePreview for Shops)
- Vortex (Optional for non pixel background)
- Unjankify (Re-center the Main Menu logo for mods haver)
- SoulEverything (Makes every planets, jokers, tarot cards have Soul-like effects)
- Glue for Modpacks
- Playset (W.I.P)
i.... good point
i love not having a wiki page
playset is dropped, haha
my mod is so Underground and Secret and
when is it finished, ice
me running to get kino so the nuclear mod deletion codes arent used
is it a qol mod 🥺
amm is a qol mod
add Tonsmith
what 7 and 8 are?
well yeah duh
Flower Pot is a detailed Run Info tab, with graphs and such
DismissAlert is self explanatory
typist?
it puts the Rift-Raft Void's card counter betwixt the deck/graveyard ones
is it a qol mod 🥺
ohhh i dont see it a long time ago, ty
ouh I didn't realize malverk counted as qol technically I have. one qol mod
never, i'm not working omn that anymore, haha. I might revive it as a Banner add-on at some point, but I wanted to make it mostly to deal with Cryptid and I think I lost interest in spending time making cryptid more playable 😛
the bruh
because it was a requirement for a mod that changed all the seals into being shaped like seals the animal you see it was very important
malverk is 100% a qol mod if you want to have different textures
i know
ah seals seal, i have to add that
also hi eremel
what is happening here
seals seal is a qol mod because it improves my quality of life when I look at them
qol mods
but tonsmith is a sound replacer mod why would it be not on the list if a texture replacer is on it
grr
im evil now
wiw...
yes
as apposed to when you were not evil?
double negative makes a positive
the humble -^ in the corner:
what the fuck is negative expodentia
Okay time to look into prefixes
nothing, i just created it
makes sense
but ^- exist
yeah when youre raising to a negative power
balatro for people that hate using their mouse
yup
double negative? gee 7 max jokers is crazy [laugh track plays]
i was just coming up with a qol mod that wasnt tmj for teh bit
how did you spend 2 minutes to type that
p.s. use tmj its soooooooo good
jsjsjs "im tipping balatro"
i love shill
ok i will add it
are you making like a mod list
qol list
I was debating if id be publicly executed for being unfunny or not
they can be midium qol too
you will now
ah i see

i should disable tmj spawning in cards if not _RELEASE_MODE
TMJ is brilliant qol
add a no tthere
improve your quality of life not on qol balala mods
thank you thank you
it means a lot coming fgrom john galdur
i cant improve ashes
TMJ is insanely useful. It's made dev and testing so, so much easier for me
you can make the ash particles more fine
I hope I can one day create something as used and as useful
I would have loved to have met him before
i actually havent used tmj cause im lazy
make a thing that lets you make UI more easy
I have 300 jokers that I don't remember the order of, so TMJ is insanely handy, haha
i look at this and immediately be reminded of yanderedev/pirate software
3:
im cooked
Also, the fact that it searches a bit deeper makes it so I can sort on keyword and genre, which is really helpful as well
oh no
Genuinely that's on my list
chat nobody update tmj
Even in terms of
i will
wait nvm
go for it
the jokerforge of ui
While working on SMODS, I made col() and row() functions and these are genuinely so useful
I'll probably never make a UI making tool with UI, I'm not that smart
But I'll definitely make SOMETHING
if you look at the diff here it looks... not good
I don't know how anyone is able to make a project from scratch with their UI being entirely made by code, haha. I crave visual editors so much
end
but its actually fine
coding in lua has fried my brain
you remember which mod lets everything spawn with editions enchancements?
hm
legit forgot how gml worked for a second
gml?
sounds like editioned planets? idk what exactly you mean
gamemaker language
thats engulf
i mean everything
i wouldnt know honestly
my polychrome weinar
i dont do much content modding
thanks
my favorite mod
i think it was from polterworx, i cant find it
X1.5 goon
I think a dev-oriented mod that I could use to just have hotkeys to help with UI visualization might be helpful. With debugplus's hot reloading, I can already be closer to feeling like I have a visual editor, but if I could just hold Ctrl + whatever and it'd outline every UIBox in a certain colour that matches the depth of their node, or something like that, that'd be killer
like Shortcut for animations functions/vars?
Hmmm
Maybe in one of the next updates in my library mod
I still want to improve other areas first like the config menu maker cos rn it's a bit janky
are you aware of pressing G+A?
?
Haha, clearly not
they're not different colours but it does show you your nodes
I need to try this out
wtf
Oooh, yeah, that's already very useful, yeah
woah
woag..bloo
oh makes sense, is just a border
I think anything that colour marks it a bit would be a great additional touch, but I can definitely use that
it's a vanilla feature, so I'm not sure how it's implemented
hey that deck selection screen looks different actually. besides the blueness
galdur
Use Galdur, it's really neat
Only mod I truly think would be worth for thunk to just rip and implement wholesale, haha
I might get chance to work on galdur v2 next week 👀
Holy peak
galdur version awesome
ping me when releases
no
ok
Lmao
Me when I forget the name of Mt. Sinai
release me when pinged
maybe i will get. One qol mod
I don't even get the joke but I laughed a little
Btw should I implement smth like this while working on my SMODS PR
use MORE
cuz. mountains have peaks i think
get 2
It's where Moses receives the ten commandments from God, in the bible
Ahhh okay
Christianity™️
And a holy mountain peak because of that, for most abrahamic religions, haha
id usually know that I dont know why I forgor
wh . whats the second one gonna be
HANDY
I CANT COLLECT YOUR PAGES AGAIN DANGIT !!!
HOW CAN YOU ADVICE THAT BEFORE HANDY
wh at does handy do..
arrow pointing to my head that says stupid
let you slide between cards
no
well
it depends what it does
yea like that
scribbles in my invisible notebook
I mean I feel like the vanilla fastest speed is good enough for me but I will still try it
Simple functions to create columns/rows while still allowing things like config
I made local versions while editing the mods menu and it's been pretty helpful honestly
can you show an example of usage
I'm not at my pc but I've had a few like
col(row(...), row(...))
Or a spacing node that's just row({}, {minw = 0.5})
so far I've just got a few textures and then I've been trying content mods as I find themm, im a really big fan of the buffoonery and sarcpot combo together it made for some funny runs without feeling like I just shot the game in the head point blank
I made them specifically for this part of my code but I'd add any missing features
you would like to play mods without the vanilla content?
I wouldn't be opposed
no
hi superb
hello
the like. vanilla+ Adjacent area was what first got me interested but theres a lot of cool things out there
and secondly fuck you
banner lets you select things that wouldnt spawn or appeard in the run
I wonder how many mods there really are that expect you to turn off vanilla jokers
I don't know if I've seen it outside of Pokermon, JoyousSpring and Kino
its better
What do I need tonsmith for
I know pokermon is like that but thats about all I know of. pokermon was really fun tho always a good time
i do that with every mod, i dont mind if it only have 20 items
Okay maybe I need tonsmith
Oh, wait, Ortalab might, no?
I'd have to see what it actually looks like to know whether or not it'd be something we would want, but my initial thoughts are no
yeah ortalab
ortalab doesn't turn off vanilla jokers really
it just has a stake path that is for just ortalab content
you can reenable them within it if you want to too
don't want to interrupt any conversation, but i wanted to ask something. (i hope this is the right channel for this kind of a question) i have borderline 0 coding experience (only used scratch in the past if that even counts) yet i'd be interested in making a mod adding rainworld themed jokers. i have some ideas already including some face down cards synergy. what would be things to know before actually diving into a project like this?
Check out #1349064230825103441
I Also don't know anything about coding ever but yeah I was gonna link the starter forum its already been done twice as I type this sentence
linking vanillaremade.lua but not the wiki is crazy
And one of the biggest things will be just being comfortable asking questions here, haha. Documentation and tutorials exist and are constantly improving, but often the best way to figure out how something works is asking here or the dev channel!
its pretty funny when someone ask for it and then 7 persons send the link xd
which wiki
its REALLY helpful to just have all those links in one spot
i was gonna send jokerforge after they said they have no coding experience outside of scratch
vr wiki
Oooh okay. I don't think I messed with stakes ever cause I tend to kinda forget they exist when playing modded, hahaha
IT HAVES???
it does
I honest to god understood jokerforge less than just. lua
but thats just because my brain is weird, the ui does remind me a lot of scratch tho
jokerforge is weird yeah
thanks! i'll check out the thread
so I imagine if you used scratch a bunch itd be familiar, and then you can fix up the code after when you're a little more confident
theres no fixing jf code its toothpick
oh
Alright, I'll pull up an example soon
What makes you lean towards no tho?
well I hadnt used it enough to know that im sorgy
Face down card stuff is a bit quirky in some cases, so feel free to ask around for info on your ideas! I had some mechanics based around it that I scrapped, so if you have questions on how to get started on making that work, feel free to ping! 😄
well you could use jf to make a joker and then read the lua code to understand how it works, but you already have VR
reading jf lua code is actual torture
yea, vr is more efficient
lore
you never get voodooed?
i am the voodoo
idk that sounds like someone who gets voodooed would say
ok thats a pretty rare fetich
fetich
fetich
WHATS THE WORD??
Fetich? That made orcane league of legs??
oh fetish
😭
from initial thoughts, I don't think it particularly simplifies the UI creation process, and obfuscates some information for people who are unfamiliar with it
good to know, it mainly will be for a set of jokers that would make some cards in hand face-down in certain conditions and gaining bonuses for playing, or keeping them in hand. (it's supposed to emulate creatures that hunt in the dark)
give me a chance, english is not my main language
I am sorry I thought that was a typo
xd
and im chinese what do you think english is to me
now i feel mean 
💔
That's fair honestly
Regardless I'll show an example of how I'm using it and maybe recreate an existing menu with it
Because if it doesn't get implemented into SMODS I'll probably move it to my library mod
nah /j tho
before neandertale
tbh
fetish isnt a common word
like
kink?
All definitely possible! Checking if a card that's been played was face down will be a bit more complex to set up (unless I'm letting a feature slip my mind), but I reckon that if you get comfortable by implementing your other ideas first, you'll be able to make that happen no problem
i say fetiche for that type of things, i think fetish would be the moke a-like
english is my first language and I still can't spell read or speak it. hi my name is gloom im dyslexic with a speech impediment
and I also just spell things incorrectly on purpose sometimes so you'll never know
Fetish as a word does originate as a misnomer from western colonizers describing African religious objects, and especially with the emergence of voodoo and houdou, it became a common term
xd
him and im are phonetically different tho
I put u's in words that are not supposed to have them
yea, i also say the words wrong :3
like ouh, thou, and the like
thou
Ah yes, thinking about your face in the exact moment
we are not shakespearean
said and used like tho
but the most commonly for me is "with" and "whit"
i have a spear in my brain and it shakes
that must hurt
ean
undyne Is calling
yeah im not rouxls kaard. unfortunately. ill never be him
is that the one that isn't dying
do you haveth a lazere pointere
ill never match his level of sauce and insufferable aura, try as i might
well chat i have to sleep
goodnighr
goog nihrg
see you then
long nap
who up balaing

play my mod
I WILL
im gonna say hawk tuah again because tonsmith is awesome
I also need to work on more card art ,, bluhh
might see if anyone is willing and in need of a joker artist cuz I need to practice but I dont have any good ideas ,
do you want,,, to do stuff,,
for fool
gmabti
gmabti
bcuz youre awesome
who up fooling they gambit

copies last used tarot or planet card
nuts
i think... yuore nutes!
anywho !! yesyes id love to if you'll have me. i havent done pixel art in a while, so my only example rn is this from . 8 hours ago wow I have been awake for too long
thnak you.
shameless plug because I really really liked how that one turned out
thanks
is the description ok for this joker that I've made?
or should I replace the "+" and "-" with "gains" and "loses"?
like ramen does
Oh, that's gorgeous!
probably
If you enjoy Kino once you end up touching that, I'd love to have some art guest appearances, haha
I think gains and loses would look better imo
Green joker but for xmult:
hehehe thaaanks.. besides the balatro stuff im like. mostly an artist that's usually my opener lmao
anyway, replace + and - with gains and loses
yep
i wish i could have art but im þac
alright, thx!
Oh my, I really love the hand coming off the card, nice attention to detail <3
but you're what??
Currently all Kino art is mine with a boss blind and two jokers done by Lyman, which I'm super thankful for ❤️
The Palpatine blind is insane art
lyman is so goated
was going for a lot of powerhungry themes so I thought the. fuck the border im cooler than the border look was appropriate
I hope he takes me up on him drawing some King of the Hill jokers I could program for him, because I always want more Lyman art to be able to encounter in a run, haha
eyeball emoji
i can do art but it looks like shit #1331462654732144721 message
I read sleeves as Slaves and I was very concerned
card slaves
What are they
chat im so artful
artful you say
Fire emoji
i do love those ui suits you made, autumn
artful like from
eye*
witch???? yeah i see why spellcasting is anticipated
hehehe
a Knight of Heart, a Witch of Mind, and a Lord of Void walk into a bar
its actually a balatro mod
image dot png
its ÞeAutumnCircus
which one is thorn e
I have some notes on face card art I might end up making once I finish the rest of kino or get bored and don't wanna draw a joker, haha
With characters from specific genres as the faces of each suit. Mainly so I can have a Chucky king, Bride of chucky queen, and chucky's non-binary child Jack
the Knight is ??????
the Witch is ??????
the Lord is ????
clearly printed on the legendaries
the knight is obviously noelle's mom deltarune

oh btw, Autumn, if you have any joker that needs art I'd love to contribute a joker or oddity art to thac
Aah... much better
yup
midas
Loses -0.1 its like +0.1
dude I swear to god how you manage to make that slight blue shading like, it's awesome
im just horrible about organizing with people for art and i dont like feeling like im demanding stuff from ppl but im usually down
i just make very pale blues
send me one of each you think my eye-less art style is suited for and I'll contribute 😄
I'm the one making the demands here and my demand is that I get to contribute art that you can choose to use or not use
ok then do it
examples if you want them
i should probably go over some older thac content and art some of it myself if i have art spoons tho
yeah, I'd just pick one myself but I don't wanna pick one you already had something for that's just not yet finished 😛
so you kinda convert the colors like white or black into "blue-ish" colors by adding a slight blue contrast to them?
amazing
basically, not anything really revolutionary tho
ain't the only one doing it in pixel art
i do do it in regular art too, which idk if many people do
i do not usually have half-finished art
either i do it all at once or the vision is gone and i cannot regain it
okay now the description is fully fixed (sorry for the screenshot spam)
newton…
fire card concept
thanks!
green joker 2
chat is this fire ?
no
why not ?
that's a tent
When scienceful will get release?
shit i need to shatter my jokers
for now It doesn't have so many jokers, I just completed a page and did some enhancements plus an edition so... no release date for now
😭
yep...
and there we go ! the last joker ! trading card !
xmult green joker 🙏
ok chat i got 3 different categories left to do : vouchers, tarot and booster packs
which on do i do next ?
voucher
aight
here's what i got on the vouchers so far btw if curious

nice
Shatter Your Jokers…
make sure not to shatter Too Many Jokers
its like hes in some king of Fool's Gmabit...
it's like he's Grabbing his Bag full of Ephmeral Cards..
Objection
The textures of this pack are missing
TransGirlsWhoBooster.png
that's the prefixes solved
pog
Gonna try integrating this into Kino and seeing if that all works, and then start on documentation, I think
Can i have folders inside of a lovely folder or do I just need to accept that that aint'it
hello modders and assorted
hi lily and felli
another quick question, would this be the channel to ask about opinions for joker concepts?
yeah, dev is more for the actual code part, this is just anything that's related to modding!
so joker concepts definitely fit here!
yes
little known fact i am actually just two smaller lilies stacked on top of each other and the uppermost one is named felli
oh ok i am actually three idiots locked in a cage together trying to figure out how to exist
stacked mentioned
I've spent a full hour of my day playing with my cat and he still wants to play more. I'm tired, boss
he’s locked in
no more silly shit
in that case, i've kinda been struggling getting this general concept to a point where the common isn't just a different runner without being OP or unusable
i mean a different runner that turns into an entirely different joker is
probably fine
its inevitable that some aspects of an idea you have will be similar to smth else
however an evolving joker is unique enough of its own
haru won by 0m
idk what this is but congrats
I wonder why trance is not working
Whenever I try to get into a run the colors revert back to the original colors
Maybe my smods is too new?
Is this horse racing ?!
simulating horse racing in balala
bepis is simulating horse racing
In Balatro ?!
sorry
awesome
yup!
horsegirl racing
true
because that's the hot new thing
sorry for being addicted
the big gacha thats got everyone shelling out 40kg of premium grass
We got horse racing in Balatro before Silksong 🥲
isnt it 4 tons
I think the evolution aspect's an addition that already changes the whole concept enough that it would work out!
Is your plan to have your rainworld jokers be played next to vanilla jokers?
i want people to do cool stuff
Astral in a bottle Redemption Arc (?)
also, it's emotional blackmail so that people will feel forced to start using Blockbuster or play Kino if I seem enthusiastic enough about their stuff
😛
everyone's favorite mtg mechanic is in thac as a stacked effect :applause:
-# oh and it requires JoyousSpring, the Yu-Gi-Oh mod
umabalatro
omg banding
I don't know how you'd get that effect to work in a way that plays well with all those mods your crossmod, Autumn, haha
tazuna
banding but the band deals damage an amount of times equal to the number of members
bepis has some weird context mutation stuff
oh really?
i could also go for cryptid's forcetriggers
or just run the same context
because funny
i think i meloned balatro
baro
i have half a mind to liberally patch the mods i cross to support forcetriggering
but i should probably like support it myself fully first
i think i got like halfway thru my jokers
balatro?
maximus goes kino
Maximus Goes Kino
maximus goes kino
Print James Joker Joker Lily F.
Maximus Goes Kino
Hey guys i downloaded this dvpreview mod https://github.com/DivvyCr/Balatro-Preview to help me with the c++ achievement but i noticed it also accurately predicts lucky card hits. How the hell is this possible, is the rng calculated before hands are played?
I wanna have a look at the forcetrigger stuff for Cryptid and see if I can make a version I like a bit more, potentially. Though I'm putting that at the very bottom of my activities list, haha
i kinda want them to be balanced near base game so that you could both play with and without the rest fine
Each lucky hits are seeded
my only issue with forcetriggering is that it's set up weird visually
fucked up-latro
and i know this is ignored because every cryptid player uses talisman and skips animation
if you're familiar with the seed you can enter at the start of a run, those are used to do the random rolls. This way two players on the same seed doing the exact same actions will have the exact same run
i think forcetriggering is very cool, though of course very powerful and needs to be respected as such when developing around it
It's that and Nova having decided that jokers scale and score in the same forcetrigger
oh that's dumb
:3
fuck forcetriggers actually
yeah ice if you could just make a button that says "score this joker" thatd be cool
(i could also do this)
(i will probably forget)
The first time I encountered force triggers, I used it on Rocket, and that both scaling and scoring is truly insane in a way that is fun for 10 minutes and then never again, haha
but this is how the Witch of Mind (Legendary) works
just re-do the context from the top
Oooh, yeah, that's an interesting approach! Does that not create weird edge cases?
It probably does!
if its in joker_main its probably fine
I think Eremel and I were telling someone yesterday night what the issues with forcetriggers are, haha
but like i have had her in a run and it works mostly fine
but i doubt it will work for things like calculating repetition contexts
the issue with forcetriggers is that they are naive when used with hook
when used strictly with demicolon the only issue is weird design choices
demicolon only ever forcetriggers in one context so scoring going off when it shouldnt never happens
But my approach for forcetriggers would preferably just make it a separate function for jokers, potentially even two where you can have a force_score and a force_scale, for example. Considering forcetriggers are generally hardcoded in, as far as I understand, that wouldn't hurt much, and it'd allow me to to make things compatible without adding mod-specific chunks to my 'vanilla' mod code for every single joker
it sucks because forcetriggers are an interesting mechanic to utilise but the way cryptid does it also forces scaling which is annoying
and i cant just make cryptlib different because its meant to replicate cryptids behaviour
Design choices i dislike are part of why I don't really care about Cryptlib much, haha. The features Cryptid offers that I would wanna use I'd prefer to just recreate myself so I can use my own design approach
like value manip
everyone should use pokermon value manip actually
how does Pokermon handle it? I should look into that and add a converter for Pokermon
Cryptid is spaghetti code
(no please don't the energy system is so godawful)
did you know
pokermon takes ownership of cards during runs
bro fuck it's awful
cryptid spaghetti code is kind of irrelevant to the cryptlib discussion since most of the outward facing stuff has been tidied up on purpose
you can thank me for most of that
Haha, it'll be the last Blockbuster thing I make, if I end up committing to it, but I'd love to clean up my value manipulation code and set up the API so that you can convert my own coded-in preferences to your own standards, and then just have the code check the source mod for each one
I would also feel comfortable adding cryptid's generic approach for non-compatible jokers that way
made it so it can simulate stamina reduction, super creek with more blanaced stats won this time
🥲
https://github.com/InertSteak/Pokermon/blob/6dc8b5e501d78d92a4229eafd9f996633c146205/functions/pokefunctions.lua#L990
this function looks into the eyes of god and laughs
how do i balance chips and mult
return {balance=true}
if i ever have forcetrigger support im making it also trigger downsides
as it should
punishing bird forcetrigger immediately ends the run
it should bypass conditions but not downsides
hey guys im new but do you think you can help me get jens almanac plz
no
no
If I provide Blockbuster API stuff inherently in Kino, I guess I should make the API mods themselves incompatible with Kino
end of discussion
it's not available for download
probably a good idea
y so i can get the mod then
play my mod instead
you can't get the mod, no, it's no longer available
it has the things almanac stole
oh ok thanks
well the ones stolen from me, i heard there were other victims
+15 mult cant be that serious 🥀
For some reason I was scared that providing it internally was going to need all kinds of converters, but I think I'm all good with just adding a simple file loader
i still dont actually have that clear of a idea

it's just +15 mult what can go wrong
also missed this reply until i just checked my notifs, haha. If you're adding only a few, you might consider not mirroring vanilla jokers too closely, but if you want them to also be their own thing, a new flavour twist on a vanilla joker is totally functional! Pokermon has a lot of parallels between vanilla jokers and its own jokers, for example
No documentation, and probably a lack of helper functions, but yeah, it's fully functional outside of that
ok do you think a lack of documentation is going to stop ms. 7way crossmod here
Oh, probably also gonna set up a way for mods to opt out of specific content, so that specific counters only get added if a mod chooses to enable them
oh
opting out would also only work if no other mod opts in, of course
amm has its own optional features
corobo...
i recommend just using the existing framework 
yeah, I'm probably gonna imitate something like that, haha
guys how do i fix this
oh wait
i have kino i just need to wait for you to update it
duh
im like "yeah ill download blockbuster"
oh the kino update is probably not gonna be today, haha, i wanna test that more thoroughly to see if I don't break things
Always assume mods with active development to be eternally WIP
Until the final version ever is released
so I went cryptid negative deck
I got showman
pareidolia
5 reserved parkings
many many mimes
and 6 oops all sixes
my cavendishes are in serious danger
oh wait, you can just test on the Kino branch, if you wanna, haha
holy shit five debugplus updates
oh also this is what I've gotten my deck down to (yes it's a little messy sue me
oh wait those lucky cards are guaranteed
i cant tell if thats a red seal or a gold seal
gonna find the lucky card tarot one hour (it used to be worse than this)
vm thats a gold one
seals aren't affected by edition sob
gold cus of my 7 hanging chads and several sock and buskin
oh and an idol somewhere in there
and a trib
Seals should be effected by editions that'd be awesome
only a few jokers btw
most boring cryptid run
(there's a baseball card in there)
only thing I have on for cryptid is decks
oh also checkered sleeve
is there a mod that adds stake effects to the challenges
least boring thac run
holy cow making that ace a lucky card was amazing I just tripled my econ
now getting like 1.5k each hand instead of 600 before
okay, time to convert all the actual jokers and blinds that work with counters to give the proper counters
not me quickly making a template for a basic joker... there deff was an easier way but idc
You might wanna break with it for stylistic reasons, but Balatro's darkest shade of black isn't a full black, btw!
the template is available lol
if ur using aesprite then u can install a plugin which gives u templates for jokers, tarots, planets, etc etc
im breaking with the sylte
sylte
game give me a baron I already have most of the prep and a bajillion mimes just GIVE ME A BARON
sylte
cinema

glooby
gloobyglory
hey what was the mod that gave an option to expand jokers and scroll through them?
some1 recommended it to me before but I forgot what it was
Cartomancer
ty
just got dna I need to find those damn blueprints
also is there a way to stack jokers like saturn does for consumables?
Okay, think the counters are in Kino now and working? Gonna make a test mod that uses the API and see if it crashes when used with Kino instead
that'll also help with this mess
ty
Oh wait, I'm realizing I should add some inherent way to check if counters are running because find mod wouldn't work for both of 'm
I've been using this from https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1224362333208444989 to colorpick from and its suuper helpful
hold on I think i can find the exact message if I scroll up all the way
ooh thats a great asset indeed
its super funny to me that like. even the darkest blacks used in most cards arent that dark at all, I had no idea before I went to recreate it
forgot to move blueprints off dna
and forgot I had dna
I now have 4 more of my gold seal aces xD
BARON
FINALLY
I could probably use that to redo some of Kino's art. I struggle to make darkness work in some cases, with that shade of black as the darkest, so there's some jokers where I'm not huge on the palette
i tend to not use a fixed pallet since i think some of the colors you would want are just not used in balatro because thunk never needed them and not because they are too complex
but not going too dark with the colors is pretty good advice
Yeah, skin tones are something you can't really colour pick out of the joker arts, haha
the purple side of colors for example is a lot more limited than the reds
ive had to make yellows on multiple occasions just because the choices on my palatte are either brass or piss
so if you want to make purple stuff you sort of just have to try and make stuff up
i wouldnt call purples limited that much (at least w what i use)
anyone can tell me where i can find the last version of the debug mod
i mean theres one hue of purple
and thats it
if you want a purple that isnt that deep you just cant
something more magenta-y for example
fair
i would love to stick to the og palete, but black, like a black black, is a key part of rainworld's style, so i have to use it to make stuffe recognizable i think...
The DebugPlus GitHub page wil have it
i dont really care about the palete as long as it looks good when its put ingame still
which usually leads to a reduced palete anyway but my palete is definitely bigger than thunks
Yeah, every samples palette doesn't feel like it actually works correctly, in my experience, though they're good baselines.
gradient backgrounds a la gros michel make up a lot of the color palete tbh
thx tho
i found it before u said that but anyway
But for Kino, because I turn posters into pixel art, I'd have to choose insane colours to draw human skin with, haha. Those samples do not have the right colours to draw a black character, at least not with my style and skill, haha
i kinda stick myself to a palette just because otherwise i feel like my message isnt conveyed that well
i feel like i do better when im not using any possible colour and a limited amount (unless its exalted/exotic+, then i go all out w colour) and im just too lazy to make my own palatte lmao
o ya it doesnt need to be hard nd fast (even tho I did use the facecard paper white here for thematic reasons) I created like three different navy blues for the clothing here and then overlayed it with a low-opacity yellow for lighting
also peep the hack backround colors
I like the little frame break with the hand there lot
Also, great shading for those fabrics
why are they Hot
because it gives jojo
I just find myself that starting with more limited colors works for me esp in pixel art cuz I tend to get bogged down in a lot of colors and have to tone curve my contrast failures away
duality of mankind
i tend to color pick from existing jokers a lot but sometimes i just pick something new
everyone just has their own way of designing, mine is limiting myself to avoid having a palatte longer than my ocs crime lists
existing original character, couldn't erase her bayonetta adjacent sauce
why is balalalo taking over a minute to score my hand it's only a few hundred jokers
"only"
ah bayonetta
brainrot
thats why
this honestly reminded me of jotaro a bit ngl
isnt naneinf e308?
a few hundred jokers
not just a hundred, a few
okay yeah I should sell my 15 superpositions cus I'm now doing high card
plus these r my notes for the card i made while doing the art for it, its the girlboss joker thats the bit
Is this the right channel for asking for help modding my game?
do you need help with installation? then this is the right place
all* the jokers for my stupid little project are gonna be vaguely based apon blorbo from my shows so im gonna be extra annoying about it lolol
bruh
after talisman or steamodded or whatever has that scoring screen finished it took another minute to go to the cash out screen
wtf
I got it installed on my steam deck but apparently talisman is causing some issues
because yes
also yayayaya 
ouhhh talisman is weird
remember when we used to tell everyone to download using the big green code button
you cant just disable talisman mid-round lol
I now know that
this would work fine if only mod devs could play mods
it's probably cus the best hand was e309
there go my 17 superpositions
i just realized i have to work on art for the umabalatro mod now................
gulp
cant just cheese through it like stacked now
my friend had an insane necromancer use ive when they were playing moddded
the had a tenebris and they sold the tenebris, whilst continuing to sell other useless jokers (and one that gave bulls on sell) to get like 8 tenebrises
i think 1.0.3 is ready for release
aikoyori
so last scoring time took 86 seconds to calculate
I removed some jokers lets see this time
it took 75

s
doing good
I don't think reenabling scoring animations would take this long
mimes and reserved parkings are still only on 5th card and not even to steels yet
oops, that's a bit too wide...
whoops
im in an online class rn, i will continue my work on the umamusume race simulation system in balala later
its a placeholder
aiko let me use it while im waiting for me to be sprited
I now get this for the next 20 minutes

you could also just not do that to yourself
Yeah I don’t really get it lol
is it dna
I moved the actual number counter part of the counter away from drawstep, but I'm realizing now that that means it draws on the back, too 🤔
As I type, I realize I can fix this by using the drawstep, probably
dna
i see
please consider either skipping animations or just selling jokers you dont need :3
just released a new version of my mod
I wanted to see what unskipped animations would look like
and I can't disable them mid score
starspace...
I like the milky way
soon...
yes?
I meant the chocolate
:(
shut up-
oh right, counters don't show up in deck view yet, let me fix that
:3
game stop giving me superposition PLEASE
Very intriguing idea
what are you cooking, N?
its literally just that, allowing you to save cards after the shop
it says "NOT AIKO" right there on the shirt
its for joyousspring of course
Oh, that's neat. I thought it was some crafting UI, honestly, haha
why are there two zones
exactly, and stress has caught up to aiko so idk if they're gonna be able to sprite it, so i seeked out lyre to do it... only for them to meet the same fate
chat am i cursed.
oh dw i feel better after sleep (our discussion was at like midnight my time)
did you see my rambling in #1406740128231194644
i need more research into love2d but i may possibly be onto something conceptually
Oh yeah, I fully thought I commented on that but I never did, huh
ask aiko to do art, aiko gets stressed over hot potato
ask lyre to do art, lyre gets stressed over self-worth (same ngl)
Could be your fault for not being able to read my mind, tbh, but I think I'll blame myself this time
a buffer to move cards around, if you have full slots on both the joker area and side deck then you wouldnt be able to move them (without me implementing some sort of replacement system)
i see
im going to disable the next round button if you have anything there
I'll look into how the game renders shadows. I truly don't know why it'd not use shaders for that, after all, so there must be something there, haha
my damn cats are always in the way when i want to sit down
do negative cards give side deck size
send pic?
pls
yes
poggers
ok hold on
i cant wait to crossmod the side deck
YAY KIBBIES!
the sidedeck's such a cool design space even for non JS, honestly
Also would allow for more hard-counter boss blinds because you'd be able to store jokers that could help you with it, haha
my iq immediately vanishes when in proximity of cute things to headpat
plushies, cats, dogs, @teal sky
yeah that was part of the reason haha i want to do some punishing boss blinds
Oh, wait i think it's not deck view that's missing out on counters, it's copy card, probably
that makes sense
Yeah, okay, that should be an easy solve
im so hype for counters
using death on a card with a bunch of Money counters feels like cheating in a very good way
if only we could do that in real life
@wraith seal cerydra is just furina ….
ahem ahem luigi mangione
true
i should add more stacked effects

that way my crippling art failureness is not a setback
guh
kitty?
i sent the image and the message actually vanished
mods?
dm it
KITTY!
there we go
lil gremlin taking up the whole seat w all that extra space
loaf
i named her
HER NAME IS LOAF???
she looks like bread
Meowww

can u grab a pic that has her whole body in view
so i can get her in my mod
thac has
meow
Hmm, I'm realizing now that I don't know why the hell I decided to copy counters' configs into card.ability.counter, but store the actual number of counters in card.counterconfig with a little table 🤔 That's probably exclusively going to be confusing, and I don't think there'd be a reason not to just store info in card.ability.counter

loaf
legendary joker
effects: takes up 2 joker slots but exponentiates mult by 12
nah my ipads screentime is down (i dont take images on my laptop bc theyre clunky)
best photo getting image i can use is a dsi
honestly would work
god damn how'd u get wheel of fortune to hit on that card
bro has the holographic aime
also on my latest trip i took most of my photos with a 3DS
im a menace to society
you called :3
it was red
evil mult
MORE KITTTIEEESSS!
It gives Ymult
what is ymult
more like why mult
wow
Just a cool new operator I made
I chose Y because it's very funny
aven
im adding umamusume horse racing to balatro
Wow
YES
YES
YES
YES YES YES YES YES
(i haven't played umamusume)
I AM READY TO PLAY GOO GOO BABIES WITH SUPER CREEK
Oh, the cards get scaled down in the deck view so I need to compensate for the counter UI. A world full of problems and I get to discover every one
concern
bepis i turned the egg into an egg
$0 at end of round..............
what
3:
actually hot pot
i got ideas now
boiled alive
horses
bepis Will Not Like What I Will Add
did you know that in uma musume, i may be attracted to horses-
bepsi how the hell does this rounding function work orz
guess i will be racing you
awesome
Stacked.round(5.252,1) will round it to 5.2
the 1 represents the uhhhhh

