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sleek granite
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Ice "Balatro Goes Kino" Kino when making 5 API mods at once

full edge
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Well tbf they're just refactors of mechanics I've already designed, haha

sour crescent
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I wanna try balatro goes kino now but . I have to at least pretend im gonna sleep,,,,

steel fable
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Rule 1 exists

full edge
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Counters is taking the most time because it's learning how to set it up well as an API, and I'm fully changing the code for how they work, but spells should be a very easy conversion, I think

junior rock
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ty

sleek granite
junior rock
west hill
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making easy to use APIs that are fully feature complete is a task tbf

sour crescent
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wuh. spells?

junior rock
sour crescent
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can I be a poker wizard is that what spells are or is that a different thing

junior rock
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something something different ranks/suit combos make unique spells, depending on length as well

full edge
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Yeah, my assumption is that I'll have to make changes and do maintenances for a good long while after I put the base for these out, haha. But outside of my wanting to force my mechanics upon other mod devs with a bit more ease, writing API code is probably just a good skill to develop as a programmer

full edge
sour crescent
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but tomorrow I gotta try an figure out how joker code woorks,,,

full edge
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I'm proooobably not deleting my mod tonight, so sleeping can comfortably be prioritized 😛

plush hound
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i have the access to Kino's repo

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don't sleep

grand geode
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I've got access to Ice's github account and I'll delete Kino tonight

dense egret
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nxkoo

plush hound
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i did it forst

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haha

dense egret
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whats your favorite qol mod? besides handy

plush hound
full edge
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i knew i shouldn't have made my password just 'movies'

sleek granite
daring sluice
dense egret
wraith seal
daring sluice
frigid mica
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I’ve updated the handy mod in my folder, but I don’t know where to put the “lovely.toml”

daring sluice
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oh you asked nxkoo specifically

sour crescent
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and I just realized im gonna have to make variations of my queen joker for the other face cards,, hopefully her boyfriends will look less like jotaro

daring sluice
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thought that was more open ended mb

dense egret
daring sluice
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ah okay

sleek granite
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minininlla is just asking everyone what their fav qol mods are and theres a list of wrong answers but you dont get to know until you say them

dense egret
junior rock
full edge
sleek granite
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oh

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so why doesnt the collection look like that

daring sluice
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my top 3 qol mods are handy, galdur, and of course the one... the only... potentially the BEST mod to EVER be created.. it is without a doubt typist

plush hound
# dense egret whats your favorite qol mod? besides handy

Quality Of Life:

  1. Handy
  2. Galdur
  3. Incantation
  4. Cartomancer
  5. NextAntePreview
  6. JokerDisplay
  7. DismissAlert
  8. Flower Pot
  9. Blueprint
  10. Malverk (Texture Pack Manager)
  11. Condensed UI (for cleaner UI)
  12. UnBlind (NextAntePreview for Shops)
  13. Vortex (Optional for non pixel background)
  14. Unjankify (Re-center the Main Menu logo for mods haver)
  15. SoulEverything (Makes every planets, jokers, tarot cards have Soul-like effects)
  16. Glue for Modpacks
  17. Playset (W.I.P)
full edge
daring sluice
daring sluice
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my mod is so Underground and Secret and

plush hound
sour crescent
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me running to get kino so the nuclear mod deletion codes arent used

plush hound
sleek granite
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amm is a qol mod

daring sluice
plush hound
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DismissAlert is self explanatory

sleek granite
plush hound
civic atlas
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this is bullshit

dense egret
sour crescent
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ouh I didn't realize malverk counted as qol technically I have. one qol mod

full edge
# plush hound when is it finished, ice

never, i'm not working omn that anymore, haha. I might revive it as a Banner add-on at some point, but I wanted to make it mostly to deal with Cryptid and I think I lost interest in spending time making cryptid more playable 😛

sour crescent
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because it was a requirement for a mod that changed all the seals into being shaped like seals the animal you see it was very important

west hill
civic atlas
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i know

dense egret
civic atlas
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also hi eremel

latent crescent
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what is happening here

sour crescent
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seals seal is a qol mod because it improves my quality of life when I look at them

dense egret
civic atlas
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but tonsmith is a sound replacer mod why would it be not on the list if a texture replacer is on it

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grr

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im evil now

dense egret
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what is that

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ok im adding it anyways

civic atlas
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wiw...

dense egret
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yes

sour crescent
civic atlas
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double negative makes a positive

dense egret
civic atlas
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what the fuck is negative expodentia

full edge
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Okay time to look into prefixes

dense egret
civic atlas
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makes sense

dense egret
civic atlas
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yeah when youre raising to a negative power

daring sluice
dense egret
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yup

sour crescent
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double negative? gee 7 max jokers is crazy [laugh track plays]

daring sluice
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i was just coming up with a qol mod that wasnt tmj for teh bit

civic atlas
daring sluice
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p.s. use tmj its soooooooo good

dense egret
daring sluice
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i love shill

dense egret
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ok i will add it

daring sluice
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are you making like a mod list

dense egret
sour crescent
dense egret
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they can be midium qol too

daring sluice
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ah i see

sour crescent
daring sluice
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i should disable tmj spawning in cards if not _RELEASE_MODE

west hill
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TMJ is brilliant qol

daring sluice
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lemme do that rq

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idk what i was thinking

dense egret
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anything else?

daring sluice
civic atlas
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improve your quality of life not on qol balala mods

daring sluice
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it means a lot coming fgrom john galdur

dense egret
full edge
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TMJ is insanely useful. It's made dev and testing so, so much easier for me

civic atlas
livid meadow
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I hope I can one day create something as used and as useful

dense egret
civic atlas
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i actually havent used tmj cause im lazy

dense egret
full edge
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I have 300 jokers that I don't remember the order of, so TMJ is insanely handy, haha

wraith seal
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i look at this and immediately be reminded of yanderedev/pirate software

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3:

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im cooked

full edge
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Also, the fact that it searches a bit deeper makes it so I can sort on keyword and genre, which is really helpful as well

daring sluice
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oh no

livid meadow
daring sluice
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chat nobody update tmj

livid meadow
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Even in terms of

wraith seal
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i will

daring sluice
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wait nvm

dense egret
daring sluice
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i thought i borked something

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im good

civic atlas
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the jokerforge of ui

livid meadow
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While working on SMODS, I made col() and row() functions and these are genuinely so useful

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I'll probably never make a UI making tool with UI, I'm not that smart

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But I'll definitely make SOMETHING

daring sluice
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if you look at the diff here it looks... not good

full edge
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I don't know how anyone is able to make a project from scratch with their UI being entirely made by code, haha. I crave visual editors so much

civic atlas
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end

daring sluice
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but its actually fine

civic atlas
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coding in lua has fried my brain

wraith seal
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its not a lot but so far the stat division works for better calculation now

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uhhh

dense egret
wraith seal
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hm

civic atlas
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legit forgot how gml worked for a second

dense egret
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gml?

daring sluice
civic atlas
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gamemaker language

dense egret
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i mean everything

daring sluice
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i wouldnt know honestly

civic atlas
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my polychrome weinar

daring sluice
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i dont do much content modding

dense egret
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thanks

daring sluice
dense egret
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i think it was from polterworx, i cant find it

civic atlas
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X1.5 goon

full edge
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I think a dev-oriented mod that I could use to just have hotkeys to help with UI visualization might be helpful. With debugplus's hot reloading, I can already be closer to feeling like I have a visual editor, but if I could just hold Ctrl + whatever and it'd outline every UIBox in a certain colour that matches the depth of their node, or something like that, that'd be killer

dense egret
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like Shortcut for animations functions/vars?

livid meadow
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Maybe in one of the next updates in my library mod

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I still want to improve other areas first like the config menu maker cos rn it's a bit janky

west hill
dense egret
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?

full edge
west hill
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they're not different colours but it does show you your nodes

livid meadow
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I need to try this out

west hill
dense egret
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wtf

full edge
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Oooh, yeah, that's already very useful, yeah

civic atlas
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woah

sour crescent
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woag..bloo

dense egret
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oh makes sense, is just a border

full edge
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I think anything that colour marks it a bit would be a great additional touch, but I can definitely use that

west hill
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it's a vanilla feature, so I'm not sure how it's implemented

sour crescent
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hey that deck selection screen looks different actually. besides the blueness

full edge
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Use Galdur, it's really neat

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Only mod I truly think would be worth for thunk to just rip and implement wholesale, haha

west hill
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I might get chance to work on galdur v2 next week 👀

livid meadow
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Holy peak

civic atlas
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galdur version awesome

dense egret
west hill
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no

dense egret
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ok

livid meadow
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Lmao

full edge
civic atlas
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release me when pinged

sour crescent
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maybe i will get. One qol mod

livid meadow
livid meadow
dense egret
sour crescent
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cuz. mountains have peaks i think

civic atlas
full edge
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It's where Moses receives the ten commandments from God, in the bible

livid meadow
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Ahhh okay

civic atlas
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Christianity™️

full edge
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And a holy mountain peak because of that, for most abrahamic religions, haha

sour crescent
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id usually know that I dont know why I forgor

sour crescent
dense egret
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HANDY

civic atlas
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two.

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just kidding its TONSMITH

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PLAY MY MOD

sour crescent
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I CANT COLLECT YOUR PAGES AGAIN DANGIT !!!

dense egret
sour crescent
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wh at does handy do..

civic atlas
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basically quick select mod

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also keybinds

sour crescent
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arrow pointing to my head that says stupid

dense egret
west hill
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well

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it depends what it does

sour crescent
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yea like that

dense egret
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yea install handy

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it has more speed too

sour crescent
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scribbles in my invisible notebook

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I mean I feel like the vanilla fastest speed is good enough for me but I will still try it

livid meadow
# west hill it depends what it does

Simple functions to create columns/rows while still allowing things like config
I made local versions while editing the mods menu and it's been pretty helpful honestly

west hill
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can you show an example of usage

livid meadow
sour crescent
livid meadow
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I made them specifically for this part of my code but I'd add any missing features

dense egret
sour crescent
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I wouldn't be opposed

unkempt current
civic atlas
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hi superb

unkempt current
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hello

sour crescent
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the like. vanilla+ Adjacent area was what first got me interested but theres a lot of cool things out there

civic atlas
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and secondly fuck you

dense egret
full edge
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I wonder how many mods there really are that expect you to turn off vanilla jokers

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I don't know if I've seen it outside of Pokermon, JoyousSpring and Kino

unkempt current
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Balatro's SFX is already perfect

civic atlas
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its better

unkempt current
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What do I need tonsmith for

sour crescent
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I know pokermon is like that but thats about all I know of. pokermon was really fun tho always a good time

dense egret
unkempt current
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Okay maybe I need tonsmith

full edge
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Oh, wait, Ortalab might, no?

west hill
civic atlas
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yeah ortalab

west hill
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ortalab doesn't turn off vanilla jokers really

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it just has a stake path that is for just ortalab content

civic atlas
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ortalab stake

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fuck

west hill
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you can reenable them within it if you want to too

sour crescent
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mmmmm mm m

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steak..

timid flame
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don't want to interrupt any conversation, but i wanted to ask something. (i hope this is the right channel for this kind of a question) i have borderline 0 coding experience (only used scratch in the past if that even counts) yet i'd be interested in making a mod adding rainworld themed jokers. i have some ideas already including some face down cards synergy. what would be things to know before actually diving into a project like this?

sour crescent
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I Also don't know anything about coding ever but yeah I was gonna link the starter forum its already been done twice as I type this sentence

civic atlas
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linking vanillaremade.lua but not the wiki is crazy

full edge
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And one of the biggest things will be just being comfortable asking questions here, haha. Documentation and tutorials exist and are constantly improving, but often the best way to figure out how something works is asking here or the dev channel!

dense egret
dense egret
sour crescent
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its REALLY helpful to just have all those links in one spot

civic atlas
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i was gonna send jokerforge after they said they have no coding experience outside of scratch

civic atlas
full edge
dense egret
civic atlas
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it does

dense egret
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bruh

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time to sleep

sour crescent
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I honest to god understood jokerforge less than just. lua

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but thats just because my brain is weird, the ui does remind me a lot of scratch tho

civic atlas
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jokerforge is weird yeah

timid flame
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thanks! i'll check out the thread

sour crescent
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so I imagine if you used scratch a bunch itd be familiar, and then you can fix up the code after when you're a little more confident

civic atlas
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theres no fixing jf code its toothpick

sour crescent
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oh

livid meadow
sour crescent
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well I hadnt used it enough to know that im sorgy

full edge
# timid flame thanks! i'll check out the thread

Face down card stuff is a bit quirky in some cases, so feel free to ask around for info on your ideas! I had some mechanics based around it that I scrapped, so if you have questions on how to get started on making that work, feel free to ping! 😄

dense egret
civic atlas
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reading jf lua code is actual torture

dense egret
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yea, vr is more efficient

civic atlas
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lore

dense egret
civic atlas
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i am the voodoo

sour crescent
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idk that sounds like someone who gets voodooed would say

dense egret
sour crescent
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fetich

civic atlas
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fetich

dense egret
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WHATS THE WORD??

full edge
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Fetich? That made orcane league of legs??

dense egret
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oh fetish

civic atlas
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😭

west hill
timid flame
dense egret
sour crescent
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I am sorry I thought that was a typo

dense egret
civic atlas
sour crescent
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now i feel mean pensivecowboy

civic atlas
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💔

livid meadow
civic atlas
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nah /j tho

dense egret
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tbh

civic atlas
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fetish isnt a common word

dense egret
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like

dense egret
full edge
dense egret
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i say fetiche for that type of things, i think fetish would be the moke a-like

sour crescent
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english is my first language and I still can't spell read or speak it. hi my name is gloom im dyslexic with a speech impediment

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and I also just spell things incorrectly on purpose sometimes so you'll never know

full edge
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Fetish as a word does originate as a misnomer from western colonizers describing African religious objects, and especially with the emergence of voodoo and houdou, it became a common term

civic atlas
dense egret
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mostly i merge words for how they sound

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like loud and low

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or him im

sour crescent
civic atlas
sour crescent
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I put u's in words that are not supposed to have them

dense egret
sour crescent
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like ouh, thou, and the like

civic atlas
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thou

unborn plover
civic atlas
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is a real word

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#epic

daring sluice
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we are not shakespearean

sour crescent
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said and used like tho

dense egret
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but the most commonly for me is "with" and "whit"

civic atlas
daring sluice
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that must hurt

civic atlas
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ean

dense egret
sour crescent
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yeah im not rouxls kaard. unfortunately. ill never be him

daring sluice
civic atlas
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do you haveth a lazere pointere

sour crescent
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ill never match his level of sauce and insufferable aura, try as i might

dense egret
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well chat i have to sleep

daring sluice
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goodnighr

civic atlas
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goog nihrg

dense egret
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i put my alarms in, 3 hours

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bonne buit a tout le monde

daring sluice
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see you then

civic atlas
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long nap

sour crescent
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haha yk when I said id get on balatro 'tomorrow morning' well.

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its 7am now

daring sluice
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who up balaing

sour crescent
civic atlas
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play my mod

sour crescent
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I WILL

civic atlas
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im gonna say hawk tuah again because tonsmith is awesome

sour crescent
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I also need to work on more card art ,, bluhh

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might see if anyone is willing and in need of a joker artist cuz I need to practice but I dont have any good ideas ,

civic atlas
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for fool

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gmabti

sour crescent
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gmabti

civic atlas
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bcuz youre awesome

daring sluice
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who up fooling they gambit

civic atlas
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and by gambit

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lets just say

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my Fool

daring sluice
civic atlas
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copies last used tarot or planet card

north crater
civic atlas
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i think... yuore nutes!

north crater
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only got 3 jokers left btw

sour crescent
civic atlas
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thnak you.

sour crescent
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shameless plug because I really really liked how that one turned out

civic atlas
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ye its awesome

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check dms

unborn plover
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great work dude!

north crater
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thanks

unborn plover
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is the description ok for this joker that I've made?

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or should I replace the "+" and "-" with "gains" and "loses"?

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like ramen does

civic atlas
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probably

full edge
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If you enjoy Kino once you end up touching that, I'd love to have some art guest appearances, haha

wind token
blissful brook
sour crescent
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hehehe thaaanks.. besides the balatro stuff im like. mostly an artist that's usually my opener lmao

blissful brook
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anyway, replace + and - with gains and loses

unborn plover
sleek granite
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i wish i could have art but im þac

unborn plover
wind token
unborn plover
full edge
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Currently all Kino art is mine with a boss blind and two jokers done by Lyman, which I'm super thankful for ❤️

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The Palpatine blind is insane art

sleek granite
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lyman is so goated

sour crescent
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was going for a lot of powerhungry themes so I thought the. fuck the border im cooler than the border look was appropriate

full edge
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I hope he takes me up on him drawing some King of the Hill jokers I could program for him, because I always want more Lyman art to be able to encounter in a run, haha

vernal hare
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eyeball emoji

sleek granite
wind token
vernal hare
civic atlas
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card slaves

vernal hare
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here's some of the things ive made

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made these yesterday

wind token
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What are they

sleek granite
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chat im so artful

vernal hare
wind token
full edge
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i do love those ui suits you made, autumn

vernal hare
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artful like from

full edge
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eye*

vernal hare
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oh and this

sleek granite
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i think the King(Lord) carries hard

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Queen(Witch) and Jack(Knight) kinda are meh

full edge
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witch???? yeah i see why spellcasting is anticipated

sleek granite
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hehehe

civic atlas
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wait let me pull out the spear suit

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uuuuhhhh

sleek granite
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a Knight of Heart, a Witch of Mind, and a Lord of Void walk into a bar

sleek granite
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its actually a balatro mod

civic atlas
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image dot png

sleek granite
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its ÞeAutumnCircus

civic atlas
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which one is thorn e

full edge
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I have some notes on face card art I might end up making once I finish the rest of kino or get bored and don't wanna draw a joker, haha

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With characters from specific genres as the faces of each suit. Mainly so I can have a Chucky king, Bride of chucky queen, and chucky's non-binary child Jack

sleek granite
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clearly printed on the legendaries

astral vapor
sleek granite
full edge
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oh btw, Autumn, if you have any joker that needs art I'd love to contribute a joker or oddity art to thac

unborn plover
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Aah... much better

sleek granite
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i have like 60 placeholder jokers

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and like 30 at least placeholder oddities.....

tidal terrace
unborn plover
north crater
bright shore
unborn plover
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my bad

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gotta fix it rn

unborn plover
# north crater midas

dude I swear to god how you manage to make that slight blue shading like, it's awesome

sleek granite
full edge
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I'm the one making the demands here and my demand is that I get to contribute art that you can choose to use or not use

sleek granite
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ok then do it

sleek granite
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i should probably go over some older thac content and art some of it myself if i have art spoons tho

full edge
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yeah, I'd just pick one myself but I don't wanna pick one you already had something for that's just not yet finished 😛

unborn plover
tidal terrace
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I wonder what Aikoyori did

north crater
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ain't the only one doing it in pixel art

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i do do it in regular art too, which idk if many people do

sleek granite
unborn plover
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okay now the description is fully fixed (sorry for the screenshot spam)

distant badge
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newton…

unborn plover
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thanks!

north crater
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chat is this fire ?

normal hollow
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no

north crater
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why not ?

daring sluice
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yeah

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i think i see one

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a little below the middle

normal hollow
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that's a tent

dry kettle
north crater
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only got one last joker left to do....

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it's teh trading card btw

sleek granite
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shit i need to shatter my jokers

unborn plover
dry kettle
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😭

unborn plover
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yep...

north crater
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and there we go ! the last joker ! trading card !

grand geode
west hatch
north crater
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ok chat i got 3 different categories left to do : vouchers, tarot and booster packs

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which on do i do next ?

wind token
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voucher

north crater
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aight

north crater
latent crescent
wind token
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nice

jaunty galleon
daring sluice
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make sure not to shatter Too Many Jokers

civic atlas
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its like hes in some king of Fool's Gmabit...

sleek granite
west hatch
tidal terrace
sleek granite
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TransGirlsWhoBooster.png

full edge
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that's the prefixes solved

sleek granite
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pog

full edge
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Gonna try integrating this into Kino and seeing if that all works, and then start on documentation, I think

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Can i have folders inside of a lovely folder or do I just need to accept that that aint'it

woven orchid
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hello modders and assorted

sleek granite
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hi lily and felli

timid flame
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another quick question, would this be the channel to ask about opinions for joker concepts?

full edge
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yeah, dev is more for the actual code part, this is just anything that's related to modding!

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so joker concepts definitely fit here!

pale raptor
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yes

woven orchid
sleek granite
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oh ok i am actually three idiots locked in a cage together trying to figure out how to exist

wraith seal
#

stacked mentioned

full edge
#

I've spent a full hour of my day playing with my cat and he still wants to play more. I'm tired, boss

woven orchid
#

no more silly shit

livid meadow
#

my cat could never

#

hes old tbf

timid flame
#

in that case, i've kinda been struggling getting this general concept to a point where the common isn't just a different runner without being OP or unusable

sleek granite
#

i mean a different runner that turns into an entirely different joker is

#

probably fine

wraith seal
#

im super proud to say that

#

i got the prototype working

livid meadow
sleek granite
#

haru won by 0m

wraith seal
#

yeah

#

:3

livid meadow
unkempt current
#

I wonder why trance is not working
Whenever I try to get into a run the colors revert back to the original colors
Maybe my smods is too new?

oak kernel
wraith seal
#

simulating horse racing in balala

sleek granite
#

bepis is simulating horse racing

oak kernel
#

In Balatro ?!

sleek granite
#

sorry

livid meadow
#

awesome

wraith seal
sleek granite
#

horsegirl racing

wraith seal
#

true

sleek granite
#

because that's the hot new thing

wraith seal
#

sorry for being addicted

sleek granite
#

the big gacha thats got everyone shelling out 40kg of premium grass

oak kernel
#

We got horse racing in Balatro before Silksong 🥲

full edge
#

Is your plan to have your rainworld jokers be played next to vanilla jokers?

sleek granite
#

ice i just wanna say i love how excited you get about ppls mods

full edge
#

i want people to do cool stuff

olive hamlet
full edge
#

also, it's emotional blackmail so that people will feel forced to start using Blockbuster or play Kino if I seem enthusiastic enough about their stuff

#

😛

sleek granite
# sleek granite

everyone's favorite mtg mechanic is in thac as a stacked effect :applause:
-# oh and it requires JoyousSpring, the Yu-Gi-Oh mod

sour crescent
#

BANISHMENT? NO

#

mtg flashbacks

sleek granite
#

i have this in my notes hole but idk it might be too good

harsh glacier
#

you can't do this to me

wraith seal
#

umabalatro

full edge
harsh glacier
#

hotpot

full edge
#

I don't know how you'd get that effect to work in a way that plays well with all those mods your crossmod, Autumn, haha

wraith seal
#

tazuna

sleek granite
#

bepis has some weird context mutation stuff

full edge
#

oh really?

sleek granite
#

i could also go for cryptid's forcetriggers

#

or just run the same context

#

because funny

mortal pivot
#

i think i meloned balatro

sour crescent
#

baro

sleek granite
#

but i should probably like support it myself fully first

#

i think i got like halfway thru my jokers

sleek granite
woven orchid
#

maximus goes kino

sleek granite
#

Maximus Goes Kino

latent crescent
#

maximus goes kino

sleek granite
#

Print James Joker Joker Lily F.
Maximus Goes Kino

clever night
full edge
#

I wanna have a look at the forcetrigger stuff for Cryptid and see if I can make a version I like a bit more, potentially. Though I'm putting that at the very bottom of my activities list, haha

timid flame
latent crescent
sleek granite
#

my only issue with forcetriggering is that it's set up weird visually

mortal pivot
sleek granite
#

and i know this is ignored because every cryptid player uses talisman and skips animation

full edge
sleek granite
#

i think forcetriggering is very cool, though of course very powerful and needs to be respected as such when developing around it

full edge
sleek granite
#

oh that's dumb

sleek granite
#

fuck forcetriggers actually

#

yeah ice if you could just make a button that says "score this joker" thatd be cool

#

(i could also do this)

#

(i will probably forget)

full edge
#

The first time I encountered force triggers, I used it on Rocket, and that both scaling and scoring is truly insane in a way that is fun for 10 minutes and then never again, haha

sleek granite
#

but this is how the Witch of Mind (Legendary) works

#

just re-do the context from the top

full edge
#

Oooh, yeah, that's an interesting approach! Does that not create weird edge cases?

sleek granite
#

It probably does!

lunar sluice
#

if its in joker_main its probably fine

full edge
#

I think Eremel and I were telling someone yesterday night what the issues with forcetriggers are, haha

sleek granite
#

but like i have had her in a run and it works mostly fine

lunar sluice
#

but i doubt it will work for things like calculating repetition contexts

#

the issue with forcetriggers is that they are naive when used with hook

#

when used strictly with demicolon the only issue is weird design choices

#

demicolon only ever forcetriggers in one context so scoring going off when it shouldnt never happens

sleek granite
#

yeah hook is just busted by design

#

both in terms of gameplay and actual jank

full edge
#

But my approach for forcetriggers would preferably just make it a separate function for jokers, potentially even two where you can have a force_score and a force_scale, for example. Considering forcetriggers are generally hardcoded in, as far as I understand, that wouldn't hurt much, and it'd allow me to to make things compatible without adding mod-specific chunks to my 'vanilla' mod code for every single joker

sleek granite
#

witch of mind gaming

lunar sluice
#

it sucks because forcetriggers are an interesting mechanic to utilise but the way cryptid does it also forces scaling which is annoying

#

and i cant just make cryptlib different because its meant to replicate cryptids behaviour

full edge
#

Design choices i dislike are part of why I don't really care about Cryptlib much, haha. The features Cryptid offers that I would wanna use I'd prefer to just recreate myself so I can use my own design approach

#

like value manip

sleek granite
#

everyone should use pokermon value manip actually

full edge
#

how does Pokermon handle it? I should look into that and add a converter for Pokermon

ornate bone
#

Cryptid is spaghetti code

sleek granite
#

(no please don't the energy system is so godawful)

#

did you know

#

pokermon takes ownership of cards during runs

mortal pivot
#

bro fuck it's awful

lunar sluice
#

cryptid spaghetti code is kind of irrelevant to the cryptlib discussion since most of the outward facing stuff has been tidied up on purpose

#

you can thank me for most of that

full edge
#

Haha, it'll be the last Blockbuster thing I make, if I end up committing to it, but I'd love to clean up my value manipulation code and set up the API so that you can convert my own coded-in preferences to your own standards, and then just have the code check the source mod for each one

#

I would also feel comfortable adding cryptid's generic approach for non-compatible jokers that way

wraith seal
#

made it so it can simulate stamina reduction, super creek with more blanaced stats won this time

full edge
astral vapor
#

how do i balance chips and mult

sleek granite
#

return {balance=true}

grand geode
#

if i ever have forcetrigger support im making it also trigger downsides

sleek granite
#

as it should

grand geode
#

punishing bird forcetrigger immediately ends the run

sleek granite
#

it should bypass conditions but not downsides

languid mulch
#

hey guys im new but do you think you can help me get jens almanac plz

grand geode
#

no

sleek granite
#

no

full edge
#

If I provide Blockbuster API stuff inherently in Kino, I guess I should make the API mods themselves incompatible with Kino

grand geode
#

end of discussion

full edge
languid mulch
#

y so i can get the mod then

sleek granite
#

play my mod instead

full edge
#

you can't get the mod, no, it's no longer available

sleek granite
#

it has the things almanac stole

languid mulch
#

oh ok thanks

sleek granite
#

well the ones stolen from me, i heard there were other victims

wraith seal
full edge
#

For some reason I was scared that providing it internally was going to need all kinds of converters, but I think I'm all good with just adding a simple file loader

sleek granite
#

i still dont actually have that clear of a idea

normal dawn
sleek granite
#

counters api.....

#

is it functional and like tinker-with-able yet

grand geode
full edge
full edge
sleek granite
#

ok do you think a lack of documentation is going to stop ms. 7way crossmod here

full edge
#

Oh, probably also gonna set up a way for mods to opt out of specific content, so that specific counters only get added if a mod chooses to enable them

sleek granite
#

oh

full edge
#

opting out would also only work if no other mod opts in, of course

astral vapor
#

how do i fuckign even...

sleek granite
#

amm has its own optional features

wraith seal
#

corobo...

sleek granite
#

i recommend just using the existing framework charaThumbsUp

full edge
#

yeah, I'm probably gonna imitate something like that, haha

astral vapor
sleek granite
#

oh wait

#

i have kino i just need to wait for you to update it

#

duh

#

im like "yeah ill download blockbuster"

full edge
#

oh the kino update is probably not gonna be today, haha, i wanna test that more thoroughly to see if I don't break things

ornate bone
#

Always assume mods with active development to be eternally WIP

#

Until the final version ever is released

sleek granite
#

me irl

#

WIP mod btw

digital glade
#

so I went cryptid negative deck
I got showman
pareidolia
5 reserved parkings
many many mimes
and 6 oops all sixes
my cavendishes are in serious danger

wraith seal
#

:3

full edge
sleek granite
#

holy shit five debugplus updates

digital glade
#

oh also this is what I've gotten my deck down to (yes it's a little messy sue me

#

oh wait those lucky cards are guaranteed

wraith seal
#

i cant tell if thats a red seal or a gold seal

digital glade
#

gonna find the lucky card tarot one hour (it used to be worse than this)

wraith seal
#

vm thats a gold one

sleek granite
#

seals aren't affected by edition sob

wraith seal
#

im colorblind now

#

its over

digital glade
#

oh and an idol somewhere in there

#

and a trib

normal dawn
#

Seals should be effected by editions that'd be awesome

digital glade
#

only a few jokers btw

sleek granite
#

most boring cryptid run

digital glade
#

(there's a baseball card in there)

digital glade
#

oh also checkered sleeve

junior rock
#

is there a mod that adds stake effects to the challenges

sleek granite
#

least boring thac run

digital glade
#

holy cow making that ace a lucky card was amazing I just tripled my econ

#

now getting like 1.5k each hand instead of 600 before

full edge
#

okay, time to convert all the actual jokers and blinds that work with counters to give the proper counters

timid flame
#

not me quickly making a template for a basic joker... there deff was an easier way but idc

full edge
#

You might wanna break with it for stylistic reasons, but Balatro's darkest shade of black isn't a full black, btw!

wraith seal
#

the template is available lol

#

if ur using aesprite then u can install a plugin which gives u templates for jokers, tarots, planets, etc etc

sleek granite
#

im breaking with the sylte

wraith seal
#

sylte

digital glade
#

game give me a baron I already have most of the prep and a bajillion mimes just GIVE ME A BARON

sleek granite
#

sylte

wraith seal
#

cinema

sour crescent
sleek granite
#

glooby

wraith seal
#

gloobyglory

digital glade
#

hey what was the mod that gave an option to expand jokers and scroll through them?

#

some1 recommended it to me before but I forgot what it was

full edge
#

Cartomancer

digital glade
#

ty

#

just got dna I need to find those damn blueprints

#

also is there a way to stack jokers like saturn does for consumables?

full edge
#

Okay, think the counters are in Kino now and working? Gonna make a test mod that uses the API and see if it crashes when used with Kino instead

digital glade
#

that'll also help with this mess

digital glade
#

ty

full edge
#

Oh wait, I'm realizing I should add some inherent way to check if counters are running because find mod wouldn't work for both of 'm

sour crescent
#

hold on I think i can find the exact message if I scroll up all the way

sour crescent
digital glade
#

ty all I can now tell which jokers are which

#

oh so I had 11 superpositions

#

xD

sour crescent
#

its super funny to me that like. even the darkest blacks used in most cards arent that dark at all, I had no idea before I went to recreate it

digital glade
#

forgot to move blueprints off dna
and forgot I had dna
I now have 4 more of my gold seal aces xD

#

BARON

#

FINALLY

full edge
#

I could probably use that to redo some of Kino's art. I struggle to make darkness work in some cases, with that shade of black as the darkest, so there's some jokers where I'm not huge on the palette

lunar sluice
#

i tend to not use a fixed pallet since i think some of the colors you would want are just not used in balatro because thunk never needed them and not because they are too complex

#

but not going too dark with the colors is pretty good advice

full edge
#

Yeah, skin tones are something you can't really colour pick out of the joker arts, haha

lunar sluice
#

the purple side of colors for example is a lot more limited than the reds

wanton lintel
#

ive had to make yellows on multiple occasions just because the choices on my palatte are either brass or piss

lunar sluice
#

so if you want to make purple stuff you sort of just have to try and make stuff up

wanton lintel
#

i wouldnt call purples limited that much (at least w what i use)

pulsar garnet
#

anyone can tell me where i can find the last version of the debug mod

lunar sluice
#

i mean theres one hue of purple

#

and thats it

#

if you want a purple that isnt that deep you just cant

#

something more magenta-y for example

wanton lintel
#

fair

timid flame
#

i would love to stick to the og palete, but black, like a black black, is a key part of rainworld's style, so i have to use it to make stuffe recognizable i think...

full edge
lunar sluice
#

i dont really care about the palete as long as it looks good when its put ingame still

#

which usually leads to a reduced palete anyway but my palete is definitely bigger than thunks

full edge
#

Yeah, every samples palette doesn't feel like it actually works correctly, in my experience, though they're good baselines.

lunar sluice
#

gradient backgrounds a la gros michel make up a lot of the color palete tbh

pulsar garnet
#

i found it before u said that but anyway

full edge
#

But for Kino, because I turn posters into pixel art, I'd have to choose insane colours to draw human skin with, haha. Those samples do not have the right colours to draw a black character, at least not with my style and skill, haha

wanton lintel
#

i kinda stick myself to a palette just because otherwise i feel like my message isnt conveyed that well
i feel like i do better when im not using any possible colour and a limited amount (unless its exalted/exotic+, then i go all out w colour) and im just too lazy to make my own palatte lmao

sour crescent
#

o ya it doesnt need to be hard nd fast (even tho I did use the facecard paper white here for thematic reasons) I created like three different navy blues for the clothing here and then overlayed it with a low-opacity yellow for lighting

#

also peep the hack backround colors

full edge
#

I like the little frame break with the hand there lot

#

Also, great shading for those fabrics

grand geode
#

why are they Hot

timid flame
sour crescent
#

I just find myself that starting with more limited colors works for me esp in pixel art cuz I tend to get bogged down in a lot of colors and have to tone curve my contrast failures away

main path
#

duality of mankind

lunar sluice
#

i tend to color pick from existing jokers a lot but sometimes i just pick something new

wanton lintel
sour crescent
digital glade
#

why is balalalo taking over a minute to score my hand it's only a few hundred jokers

lunar sluice
#

"only"

grand geode
#

ah bayonetta

lunar sluice
#

brainrot

grand geode
#

thats why

digital glade
#

wait e306

#

wait

wraith seal
digital glade
#

isnt naneinf e308?

wraith seal
#

not just a hundred, a few

digital glade
#

okay yeah I should sell my 15 superpositions cus I'm now doing high card

sour crescent
#

plus these r my notes for the card i made while doing the art for it, its the girlboss joker thats the bit

civic hazel
#

Is this the right channel for asking for help modding my game?

main path
sour crescent
#

all* the jokers for my stupid little project are gonna be vaguely based apon blorbo from my shows so im gonna be extra annoying about it lolol

digital glade
#

bruh
after talisman or steamodded or whatever has that scoring screen finished it took another minute to go to the cash out screen
wtf

civic hazel
sleek granite
sour crescent
#

also yayayaya jimbo_spin

digital glade
#

oh I earned 6,511 $ from a single hand

#

wtf

#

too many mimes ig

sour crescent
#

ouhhh talisman is weird

civic hazel
lunar sluice
#

downloading from source instead of release issue

#

you shouldnt do that

digital glade
#

alright off goes talisman I wanna see naneinf

#

NO

#

NOONONOO

wraith seal
#

remember when we used to tell everyone to download using the big green code button

digital glade
#

uhmmmm game crashed when I pressed play

#

please dont corrupt my run

wraith seal
#

you cant just disable talisman mid-round lol

digital glade
#

I now know that

lunar sluice
digital glade
#

it's probably cus the best hand was e309

deft ore
#

you can't disable a mod mid-round

#

any mod save for qol

astral vapor
digital glade
#

there go my 17 superpositions

wraith seal
#

i just realized i have to work on art for the umabalatro mod now................

#

gulp

#

cant just cheese through it like stacked now

wanton lintel
#

my friend had an insane necromancer use ive when they were playing moddded
the had a tenebris and they sold the tenebris, whilst continuing to sell other useless jokers (and one that gave bulls on sell) to get like 8 tenebrises

astral vapor
wraith seal
#

aikoyori

digital glade
#

so last scoring time took 86 seconds to calculate

#

I removed some jokers lets see this time

#

it took 75

tidal terrace
wraith seal
#

s

tidal terrace
#

Lol

#

Hey bepis how are you doing

wraith seal
#

doing good

digital glade
#

I don't think reenabling scoring animations would take this long
mimes and reserved parkings are still only on 5th card and not even to steels yet

timid flame
#

oops, that's a bit too wide...

digital glade
#

whoops

wraith seal
#

im in an online class rn, i will continue my work on the umamusume race simulation system in balala later

astral vapor
#

aiko let me use it while im waiting for me to be sprited

tidal terrace
digital glade
worn dagger
full edge
wraith seal
#

it cant be that fun.......

#

on another note why is that K face up

#

that looks wrong

tidal terrace
#

Yeah I don’t really get it lol

wraith seal
#

is it dna

full edge
#

I moved the actual number counter part of the counter away from drawstep, but I'm realizing now that that means it draws on the back, too 🤔

#

As I type, I realize I can fix this by using the drawstep, probably

digital glade
wraith seal
#

i see

#

please consider either skipping animations or just selling jokers you dont need :3

astral vapor
#

just released a new version of my mod

digital glade
#

I wanted to see what unskipped animations would look like

#

and I can't disable them mid score

worn dagger
#

starspace...

tidal terrace
#

I like the milky way

worn dagger
#

soon...

astral vapor
tidal terrace
#

I meant the chocolate

astral vapor
astral vapor
full edge
#

oh right, counters don't show up in deck view yet, let me fix that

normal hollow
digital glade
#

game stop giving me superposition PLEASE

livid meadow
full edge
normal hollow
#

its literally just that, allowing you to save cards after the shop

wanton lintel
normal hollow
#

its for joyousspring of course

full edge
#

Oh, that's neat. I thought it was some crafting UI, honestly, haha

sleek granite
astral vapor
#

chat am i cursed.

wanton lintel
forest knoll
full edge
astral vapor
#

ask aiko to do art, aiko gets stressed over hot potato
ask lyre to do art, lyre gets stressed over self-worth (same ngl)

full edge
#

Could be your fault for not being able to read my mind, tbh, but I think I'll blame myself this time

normal hollow
# sleek granite why are there two zones

a buffer to move cards around, if you have full slots on both the joker area and side deck then you wouldnt be able to move them (without me implementing some sort of replacement system)

sleek granite
#

i see

normal hollow
#

im going to disable the next round button if you have anything there

full edge
wanton lintel
#

my damn cats are always in the way when i want to sit down

sleek granite
#

do negative cards give side deck size

astral vapor
#

pls

normal hollow
sleek granite
#

poggers

wanton lintel
sleek granite
#

i cant wait to crossmod the side deck

astral vapor
#

YAY KIBBIES!

full edge
#

the sidedeck's such a cool design space even for non JS, honestly

sleek granite
#

i should enlist more people to do art for thac

#

i should kidnap more artists

full edge
#

Also would allow for more hard-counter boss blinds because you'd be able to store jokers that could help you with it, haha

astral vapor
#

my iq immediately vanishes when in proximity of cute things to headpat

#

plushies, cats, dogs, @teal sky

normal hollow
full edge
#

Oh, wait i think it's not deck view that's missing out on counters, it's copy card, probably

sleek granite
#

that makes sense

full edge
#

Yeah, okay, that should be an easy solve

sleek granite
#

im so hype for counters

full edge
#

using death on a card with a bunch of Money counters feels like cheating in a very good way

astral vapor
tidal terrace
#

@wraith seal cerydra is just furina ….

astral vapor
#

ahem ahem luigi mangione

wraith seal
#

true

sleek granite
#

i should add more stacked effects

tidal terrace
sleek granite
#

that way my crippling art failureness is not a setback

wanton lintel
#

guh

astral vapor
wanton lintel
#

i sent the image and the message actually vanished

astral vapor
#

mods?

wanton lintel
astral vapor
wanton lintel
#

there we go

astral vapor
#

:D

#

YAY

#

whats her name??

wanton lintel
#

lil gremlin taking up the whole seat w all that extra space

wanton lintel
astral vapor
#

HER NAME IS LOAF???

wanton lintel
#

she looks like bread

astral vapor
#

🥹

#

🥹 🥹 🥹 her name is loafffff....

#

so cute~

#

i wanna add her to my balatro mod...

astral vapor
#

:D

teal sky
astral vapor
#

so i can get her in my mod

sleek granite
#

thac has

solar sandal
#

meow

full edge
#

Hmm, I'm realizing now that I don't know why the hell I decided to copy counters' configs into card.ability.counter, but store the actual number of counters in card.counterconfig with a little table 🤔 That's probably exclusively going to be confusing, and I don't think there'd be a reason not to just store info in card.ability.counter

teal sky
astral vapor
#

loaf
legendary joker
effects: takes up 2 joker slots but exponentiates mult by 12

wanton lintel
#

nah my ipads screentime is down (i dont take images on my laptop bc theyre clunky)
best photo getting image i can use is a dsi

hard plank
astral vapor
# hard plank

god damn how'd u get wheel of fortune to hit on that card

#

bro has the holographic aime

astral vapor
main path
unkempt current
solar sandal
astral vapor
hard plank
astral vapor
unkempt current
solar sandal
#

what is ymult

unkempt current
#

Bottom one is Y1.5 mult

#

The other 2 are obvious

sleek granite
#

more like why mult

solar sandal
#

wow

unkempt current
#

Just a cool new operator I made
I chose Y because it's very funny

wraith seal
#

aven

sleek granite
wraith seal
#

im adding umamusume horse racing to balatro

solar sandal
#

Wow

astral vapor
#

YES

#

YES

#

YES YES YES YES YES

solar sandal
#

(i haven't played umamusume)

wraith seal
astral vapor
#

I AM READY TO PLAY GOO GOO BABIES WITH SUPER CREEK

wraith seal
#

this is the prototy

#

wtf

full edge
#

Oh, the cards get scaled down in the deck view so I need to compensate for the counter UI. A world full of problems and I get to discover every one

grand geode
#

concern

sleek granite
astral vapor
wraith seal
solar sandal
wraith seal
hard plank
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actually hot pot

hard plank
solar sandal
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boiled alive

sleek granite
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horses

hard plank
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bepis Will Not Like What I Will Add

astral vapor
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did you know that in uma musume, i may be attracted to horses-

sleek granite
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bepsi how the hell does this rounding function work orz

wraith seal
wanton rapids
wraith seal
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the 1 represents the uhhhhh