⚙・modding-general

[velvet bronze]

true, if you want help we can tho

[jaunty galleon]

i've been improving lately

[tidal terrace]

I did anything but work on the mod

Lol

[umbral pilot]

these look SO GOOD

[tidal terrace]

Mhm very nice

[civic atlas]

i mean like idk lmao if fg is worth your time

[velvet bronze]

the carrot is peak

[civic atlas]

btw awesome

i feel like its obligatory to say that

[velvet bronze]

worth my time 😭 i make a jjk mod lmao

[tidal terrace]

Does the golden carrot heal like Minecraft

[jaunty galleon]

need to get good enough to be a freelancer so i don't have to get a real job

[civic atlas]

😭

[tidal terrace]

Been there

[velvet bronze]

wait I've seen that guy in the bottom left before who is that based off of?

[jaunty galleon]

the unabomber's mugshot lol

[velvet bronze]

OHH

you have a unabomber joker??

[jaunty galleon]

card sharp is already reminiscent of his police sketch

even if it is just a poker reference

[tidal terrace]

I’m coding black jack on my website today

[tidal terrace]

Charge cards infoqueue ?

[jaunty galleon]

good shout

forgot about infoqueue lol

[north crater]

WOAH

i dunno about that one chief

[tidal terrace]

What do they do tho

[north crater]

why did you make a ted joker bro ?

fucked up

[tidal terrace]

That’s not controversial

[north crater]

i dunno man

[tidal terrace]

I saw a diddy joker that day

[north crater]

he could've picked a mor elight hearted mugshot

like tyler the creator's

[tidal terrace]

You know what it does

[tidal terrace]

Bro he’s so happy

He looks like he’s visiting his grandma

[civic atlas]

who

[tidal terrace]

Tyler on his mugshot

[civic atlas]

i mean the mugshot guy not tyler

[tidal terrace]

LMAOOOOOOO

[north crater]

the mucgshot guy is ted kaczynski

[civic atlas]

who

[umbral pilot]

nah that's Jimbo joker

[north crater]

lmao

[umbral pilot]

@jaunty galleon it's perfect

[jaunty galleon]

for a guy they spent so much money to catch he was really pretty shit at killing people

[tidal terrace]

Joker the creator when

[north crater]

bro what

[jaunty galleon]

i'm not wrong

[civic atlas]

man breaks in a burger king and drinks a gallon of deep frying oil

[tidal terrace]

Normal day in cali

[jaunty galleon]

all that neoluddite yapping about society and bringing down the system and he got like 3 randoms. ted was the original Potential Man

[tidal terrace]

Man crashes his car into Arby’s because they didn’t have his chocolate milkshake

[jaunty galleon]

anyways it was between him and trump's mugshot

[jaunty galleon]

remeber when domino's had to sack the noid because some schizophrenic guy thought it was a targeted attack and created a hostage situation

i still miss that stupid rabbit bastard thing

[tidal terrace]

Oh yeah

[jaunty galleon]

still doesn't scratch the average work shift in a waffle house i imagine

[tidal terrace]

Idk i prefer pancakes

[jaunty galleon]

i'm bri ish we only get chippys and pizza spots that give you food poisoning

[tidal terrace]

Beans

And bread

[jaunty galleon]

why do nonbrits hate beans and toast so much

it's fine

it's not like, fine dining but it's okay

[tidal terrace]

I don’t hate beans and toast

It’s just a common meme

Lol

[jaunty galleon]

that's fair

i see a lot of people reacting to it with like abject disgust for some reason

[tidal terrace]

I went once to the uk and had a hot potato with beans cheese and some hot sauce and it was amazing actually

[jaunty galleon]

you had a WHAT

[tidal terrace]

How’s the work going btw

Or no spoilers

[jaunty galleon]

idk my team is up in like 5 weeks

Oops! is Week 7 of 8

[tidal terrace]

Who finished

[jaunty galleon]

sillyposting is about to wrap up i believe

[tidal terrace]

(Members)

I’m not in the server lol

[jaunty galleon]

first person is unusedparadox i think

jaydchw goes by goodmorning in this server

[tidal terrace]

Mhm the joker forge guy

Solid team

[jaunty galleon]

jtem is up next

[tidal terrace]

This team is stacked

[jaunty galleon]

i think my team is pretty stacked too

[wind token]

I’ve been playing assassins creed mirage, it’s really nice

[wind token]

Jtem?

[jaunty galleon]

will they ever run out of subtitles

[tidal terrace]

Oh myst is contributing too

Sweet

[wind token]

What does Jtem mean

[jaunty galleon]

who knows

[wind token]

Oh

[jaunty galleon]

there's a team called pissdrawer

[wind token]

I would think you

Oh.

[tidal terrace]

Short for “I love you” in french

[jaunty galleon]

there's also Team Name and Team :)

[wind token]

I se you as a friend

[tidal terrace]

[jaunty galleon]

oh i forgot about The four horsechicots of the potatolypse

[tidal terrace]

Team named team name

And team named team

[wanton rapids]

:)

[sleek granite]

i am a whole team

[wind token]

The parkour is feeling clunky but overall nice

[wanton rapids]

technically its team but like

[wind token]

I wanna see a modern day assassin’s creed, maybe with skating lol

[sleek granite]

but not on hotpot

[jaunty galleon]

pissdrawer is easily the most stacked team imo

CRAZY lineup

[tidal terrace]

Is ari not contributing

[tidal terrace]

Eremel

John smods himself

[sleek granite]

i cant wait to crossmod hotpot

[wind token]

I hate how the new games have mountable animals, you feel as if you should be doing parkour to get places as it’s just faster to use your mount

[jaunty galleon]

even then N's PRs on SMODS recently have been peak

[tidal terrace]

Elden ring mentioned?

[wind token]

Assassins creed

[tidal terrace]

Yeah Ubisoft is just cooked

Honestly

[wind token]

No, they make good games

I’m enjoying the game

[tidal terrace]

Made

[sleek granite]

i should cross every mod with stacked

[ember surge]

hmm

[civic atlas]

team name has me so it sucks

[jaunty galleon]

you couldn't pay me to sit through a modern AAA game

[jaunty galleon]

" Shatters in X rounds" when

[tidal terrace]

I’m glad you’re enjoying the game but personally i don’t compare any recent ubisoft game to the oldest ones

[sleek granite]

thats probably doable tbh

probably not even that hard tbqh

[fallow bramble]

Look Gary that's me!

[wind token]

I love assassins creed! Rahhh!

[jaunty galleon]

hi SDM

[sleek granite]

i would almost want to make it some trigger other than pure rounds just to make it more interesting

[wind token]

I love assassins creed origins! Rahhh!

[sleek granite]

i love balatro

[civic atlas]

hotpot will be the mod with the most consumable sets

[sleek granite]

i hope so

[civic atlas]

unless we agree on one

[sleek granite]

i will cross it so hard

[fallow bramble]

1 singular consumable added

[sleek granite]

i will cross it so hard

[fallow bramble]

Autumn I wouldnt want to 1v1 you in basketball

[wind token]

1v1 me on Wii sports

[jaunty galleon]

i have a feeling i'm going to be O!AP's art servant

[civic atlas]

me when i meet a ghost

[sleek granite]

you probably could get the freest win of your life tho

[civic atlas]

i feel like team name is Middle of the road

[fallow bramble]

If you have the same physical prowess as me then I think we're even

[civic atlas]

we are not beating a lot of yall lmao

[sleek granite]

yes that is how that would work

[fallow bramble]

"Make 50 more mugshots art thanks"

[sleek granite]

i wonder how i could cross sdm mod with stacked

[civic atlas]

corobo carries

[wind token]

Go ahead and draw 50 bald men with little differences

[sleek granite]

effect that makes bread......

[tidal terrace]

Revo is a good coder

He just can’t think

[jaunty galleon]

sleeping on ghostsalt methinks

[civic atlas]

i havent seen ghostsalts code

[tidal terrace]

Ghost salt is a really

Great artist

[wind token]

Salty

[jaunty galleon]

the art surely makes up for it

[wind token]

Haha you get it…

[civic atlas]

i am gonna do a lot of art

[tidal terrace]

I’ve seen their work it’s phenomenal

[civic atlas]

i think ghost salt is alright? idk how to put it

their shit is good dont get me wrong

[jaunty galleon]

their animated jokers are about as good as it gets without prerendering 3d models

[tidal terrace]

Very vanilla balanced

[civic atlas]

but i havent seen anything phenominal yet

[tidal terrace]

I liked their mod a lot

Actually

It’s hard to balance stuff

[civic atlas]

phanta is cool

[fallow bramble]

I'm listening

[tidal terrace]

Phanta feels like vanilla

Something a lot of people struggle to achieve myself included

[jaunty galleon]

i am happy to be on a team repping most of the quality vanilla+ mods (grab bag, lucky rabbit, maximus, artbox)

[tidal terrace]

Is Talisman banned

[jaunty galleon]

there's other great vanilla+ mods fs but these come to mind for me

yeah

[civic atlas]

pissdrawer literally solos everyone

[fallow bramble]

Yes

[tidal terrace]

Great

[fallow bramble]

Joker Forge too

[wind token]

Is it good so far…

[jaunty galleon]

and ai fwiw

me likey music jokers

[civic atlas]

everything that you expect to be banned is banned

[tidal terrace]

I know for a fact nxkoo would sneak a gazillion mult joker

[civic atlas]

except talisman

[civic atlas]

what r u reffering to

[jaunty galleon]

still don't have an effect for you...

[tidal terrace]

I mean who’s going to use those

[fallow bramble]

Pretty sure ruby wouldnt let em lol

[jaunty galleon]

referring to this

[civic atlas]

ah ok

[jaunty galleon]

^^

[wind token]

Yay :3

[civic atlas]

i see

[wind token]

It’s a Refrence to wild side

Specifically the Beastars one

[civic atlas]

im gonna be honest i thought you were reffering to fools gambit i guess i just got too excited

💔

im so brainrotteddddd

[wind token]

I’ve just been adding songs I like

[hard plank]

regular doses of reality check

[civic atlas]

jtem soon

[tidal terrace]

I think you’ve been canonically online for a white

[jaunty galleon]

thinking about fine/modern art jokers...

[unkempt current]

.

[civic atlas]

banan taped to wall

[jaunty galleon]

i've seen a few Comedians and Mondrians out there

[jaunty galleon]

yeah that's Comedian

am i misremembering or has someone done this as a joker before

[civic atlas]

i on think so

[hard plank]

grab bag aikoyori ability

what should it be

[jaunty galleon]

what does that mean

[tidal terrace]

Puts the fries in the bag

[jaunty galleon]

ohhhh

the legendary

[unkempt current]

Shatters a random joker

When boss is defeated

[hard plank]

is that what uit's caleld

[civic atlas]

nobody is ever adding fg crossmod ever 😔

🔏

[jaunty galleon]

create a Negative Ephemeral card when Blind is selected

[tidal terrace]

Who mains straights anyway

[jaunty galleon]

oh shit i need a spectral ephemeral

[civic atlas]

straight are super hard to draw

[unkempt current]

Did you forget

[civic atlas]

require 5 unique ranks

[unkempt current]

And hard to deckfix with

[livid meadow]

To what sorry
I might add it to the list

[jaunty galleon]

i just haven't had any good ideas for it yet tbh

[unkempt current]

But at least they scale as good as four of a kind

[civic atlas]

wdym

[hard plank]

i should make it so that it checks for card held in hand

[livid meadow]

Idk what the mod is
But I might do crossmod for it eventually

[jaunty galleon]

oh god i neeeed to do a corru.observer joker

[civic atlas]

fool's gambit

[jaunty galleon]

play corru.observer btw

[civic atlas]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1333809003829923900

what is corru.observer

[jaunty galleon]

browser game

[civic atlas]

whats it about

anyways i am almost home

i will play grab bag

[unkempt current]

Did you guys know I woke up in 1 pm

[livid meadow]

This is very intriguing
I will be doing crossmod eventually then

[jaunty galleon]

kind of a browser exploration game think that turns into an rpg halfway through, banger music, banger art

[civic atlas]

i will also check that out then

[jaunty galleon]

https://corru.observer completely free and web based

[civic atlas]

after i do a run with grab bag

[wise stag]

the card that ^2 my money with a 50% chance of losing its a code card?

[civic atlas]

currently everything you reccomended to me is goated

[jaunty galleon]

umbral card from aikoshen

[civic atlas]

flerp and snrkx i forgot the second name

[wise stag]

yea ty

[hard plank]

sorry my card

[jaunty galleon]

hell yeah flerp and snkrx are peak

[civic atlas]

didnt aiko change the card iirc

[hard plank]

i did not

[civic atlas]

double without limits or zero

damn

[wise stag]

if i turn any handy settings mid Run, do i have to restart it

[civic atlas]

no

i dont think so atleast

i have done that before

[unkempt current]

no.

[jaunty galleon]

i have an idea like this for a spamton joker, but it's a 0 in 10 chance for double money on sell, and +1 chance for every joker you buy

[hard plank]

sorry

[civic atlas]

just buy 10 jokers with credit card

[jaunty galleon]

double your debt! hooray

[civic atlas]

you basically have a 20$ budget every round

[civic atlas]

when youre setting to 0 of course

you still get net gains from blinds

and econ jokers

[jaunty galleon]

oh the joker only does its effect when you sell it

so it's a one-time thing

[civic atlas]

bruh

[unkempt current]

I love exponentiation

[dry kettle]

Damn, i deleted some mods, but game still don't works😭

[jaunty galleon]

exponentiation? ermm... Numberslop !!

[unkempt current]

Balanced, exponentiation

[sleek granite]

intrusive thoughts

[civic atlas]

its true though

[jaunty galleon]

hit ctrl+c on the crash screen and send the resulting .txt file here

[unkempt current]

I'd only it was easy to balance...

[dry kettle]

A problem has been detected and Balatro has been stopped:
Syntax error: card.lua:2488: '<eof>' expected near 'end'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0711a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x17037b20'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 888
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x1703b630 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x1703b680, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[civic atlas]

you would never need expo

also numberslop is just a stupid name

who came up with that

[jaunty galleon]

oh this usually wraps into a neat .txt file, idk what mods you have installed that might cause this

me lol

[civic atlas]

bruh

[jaunty galleon]

hey it caught on

[unkempt current]

but expo cool
I like extra stuff...

Hey wait

Why is your name none

[civic atlas]

i was doing a bit with cass

[unkempt current]

h

[jaunty galleon]

expo only makes intuitive sense as an operation when you're in the e numbers (multiplies the e), and i'm a firm beliver that you shouldn't be hitting the e numbers in like 9/10 runs

[civic atlas]

expo powercreeps normal multiplication by a ton though

[jaunty galleon]

well all hyperoperators do

[civic atlas]

exactly

[harsh glacier]

damn we powercreeping numbers now

[civic atlas]

you can do X100 and ^2 will still be better

[jaunty galleon]

any actual value << hyperoperations << score operations

[unkempt current]

Did you know I originally came up with =mult

[jaunty galleon]

i did not

i thought that was ruby

[civic atlas]

expo is ok if its a number between 1 and 2

[unkempt current]

Na

[tidal terrace]

Changing the infinity of talisman to “your cpu is begging”

[unkempt current]

She implemented it like
7 minutes after I mentioned =mult

[civic atlas]

cursed woody sings a song

[jaunty galleon]

ok how does this scale_card shit work

time to make the switch

[civic atlas]

fg had alt stencil do ^2 mult if it was the only joker

we scrapped that

[jaunty galleon]

it's only a matter of time before the bombs drop

[civic atlas]

card is flipped

rank is either 2 or 3

you dont know before you flip it tho

[jaunty galleon]

score operator was a warning shot for the absolute clusterfuck that will be quantum ranks

[civic atlas]

what is quantum ranks anyways

im not super caught on w this stuff

[jaunty galleon]

allowing for cards to be considered multiple ranks

allows for wild ranks and such

[civic atlas]

thats cool

[torn urchin]

Quantum enhancement...

[unkempt current]

Quantum edition

[civic atlas]

fg wouldve done that for alt wilds

[jaunty galleon]

the worry is that trying out all the ranks on quantum ranked cards for, say, straights will result in poker hand calc slowdown

[sleek granite]

hopefully it's less ass than quantum enhancmeents

[jaunty galleon]

idk i haven't looked into the pr yet

still being worked on

[dry kettle]

Welp, after "The Purge" the Riftraft mod was broken, it's pity, i loved negative jokers out of nowhere

[ivory sinew]

Riftraft is broken?

[harsh glacier]

.

[dry kettle]

@jaunty galleonAnd still, thanks for help. Love your mod

[harsh glacier]

scale_card now automatically handles scaling btw

[dry kettle]

Well, in my case, yes

[sleek granite]

scale_card is a real function...........

[jaunty galleon]

np, if you need help with anything else feel free to ask in here

this would be cool

[harsh glacier]

cryptid jank vs smods jank

what do you prefer

[ivory sinew]

Does scale_card work backwards? Ala Ice Cream

[sleek granite]

i just prefer it to actually do what it says on the tin

[jaunty galleon]

should do

[harsh glacier]

yeah

just set operator to "-"

[sleek granite]

smods reimplements vanilla ice cream with scale_card i think

[jaunty galleon]

ok is there a write up

[west hill]

No

[jaunty galleon]

okay then

i'm looking at the pr and this makes no sense to me

[west hill]

Don’t use dev if you don’t want to figure out things from code

[sleek granite]

figure it out 🕶️

[west hill]

Wait for release that comes with write up 👍

[jaunty galleon]

i'll find a way

[sleek granite]

wait for me to update my mod with scale_card now that it makes sense

then learn from my code (dont do this)

[jaunty galleon]

i've seen an example code snippet by ruby but i can't remember where it is

[west hill]

There are some brief notes in the smods discord but I wouldn’t recommend them for someone who doesn’t already know how it works

Honestly my recommendation is don’t use it until it’s in a release

[jaunty galleon]

i already need money_altered so i'm locked onto beta for the time being

[west hill]

No

[normal hollow]

do you need it

[west hill]

That is not how it works

[tidal terrace]

It’s beautiful

[harsh glacier]

SMODS.scale_card(card, {
    ref_table = card.ability.extra, -- Reference table for ref_value
    ref_value = "xmult", -- Key to be indexed with ref_table
    scalar_table = { whatever = 1 }, -- Reference table to scalar_value, uses ref_table if ommited
    scalar_value = "whatever", - Key to index with scalar_table/ref_table
    operator = "+", -- operator for the scaling operation
})

[velvet bronze]

peak

[unkempt current]

The one mistake I did this summer is not learning coding at the start
I want to do that but school is inevitably coming closer

[jaunty galleon]

nah it's fine i figured out how it works (looked at the vanilla card patches)

[harsh glacier]

my internet decided to disconnect itself while i was writing that message

[tidal terrace]

Been there

[torn urchin]

Thank you s

How are you

[chilly pine]

im on pc now

grab bag time

[mortal pivot]

chat name a person with biggest amount of one of 7 deadly sins (pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth)

[tidal terrace]

Making black jack in JavaScript

Good so far

Wbu

[torn urchin]

I've been okay

Don't feel awake

But I'm living

[mortal pivot]

im envy

[tidal terrace]

Person ?

[chilly pine]

i will name him dave

[mortal pivot]

oh mb i typed incorrect say yourself's sin

[tidal terrace]

Pride

Probably

[chilly pine]

i aqlready know what nxkoo is

[mortal pivot]

envy and pride are making me crazy

[tidal terrace]

I think we all know

[sleek granite]

freaky?

[tidal terrace]

I don’t see myself in any of those maybe a little sloth but no

[velvet bronze]

it's gets tuah point 😭

[acoustic igloo]

Maximus goes kino

[velvet bronze]

im fr pride and sloth tho

[chilly pine]

need the fg logo on there

[tidal terrace]

Lol

The only time i actually got annoyed in the server is because of kate

[chilly pine]

watching peak rn

[mortal pivot]

fucked-latro

[tidal terrace]

@mortal pivot Which angry bird are you

[sleek granite]

SMODS.scale_card going smoothly

[chilly pine]

i would be gluttonous because i give +3 mult to clubs

also im a fatass

[noble grove]

hey, can i ask if there is a mod that allow to play seeded run on challenges deck or even change stake for it

[mortal pivot]

that yellow one

[tidal terrace]

[chilly pine]

yooo chuck mentioned

call him chuck norris the wah he dash

[tidal terrace]

My favorite actually

[chilly pine]

chuck is firahh

[tidal terrace]

I like the bomb bird

[chilly pine]

i only know chuck and terrence because their names are iconic enough

[mortal pivot]

when i was i think 10 or 9 only game on my phone was classic angry birds

[tidal terrace]

You had a phone at 9 lol

[chilly pine]

dantdm story mode will be fire

i always loved story mode

the story it was able to build within minecraft stuff was awesome

[mortal pivot]

a fucked up samsung phone

[chilly pine]

i had it on mobile when i was little

[tidal terrace]

My first phone was a samsung

I think G2

Or something

It’s been a long time

[chilly pine]

my first was an old ass iphone

i think like 4 or something

[mortal pivot]

i dont like IOS

[chilly pine]

i didnt have a choice ok

i was a small kid

ios sucks

[jaunty galleon]

learning that entropy doesn't use config.extra like at all

everything just goes in config

[chilly pine]

😭

[jaunty galleon]

cool commits

I HATE MODDING
I HATE MODDING
bongclou d

[jaunty galleon]

am i tripping why is this not working

[cloud cipher]

:D

[jaunty galleon]

isn't that False Infinity

[cloud cipher]

Probably but still

[mortal pivot]

pov:me after seeing tons of crashes

[cloud cipher]

It's most likely my fault because im messing with Talisman because of reasons

[frozen flax]

just finished the github wiki for my mod, even though i know that a Wiki for Modded Balatro Exists.

[chilly pine]

those were too descriptive actually

[unkempt current]

I've heard I can calculate tetration with debugplus

[cloud cipher]

Correct

eval to_big(number):arrow(arrows, number)

[jaunty galleon]

they said it couldn't be done but scale_card is working just fine now

Grab Bag Win!

[wise stag]

is there any mod w jokers planet cards that like multiply the poker hands lvls?

[unkempt current]

huh

[chilly pine]

what does scale card do

[cloud cipher]

Did you know the omeganum site has a code playground

Expantanum as well

[unkempt current]

I made a blind that tetrates blind req by 1.02 but I didn't know how balanced it is because I didn't find any tetration calculators

[jaunty galleon]

streamlines messages for scaling jokers and lets you detect and prevent scaling

[cloud cipher]

Currently suffering with new smods scoring api

[umbral pilot]

I think that Wilson and I are going to make a team and attach ourselves to the event

but we'll like only work on lovely haha

[chilly pine]

thats awesome

[cloud cipher]

hand_mult_ui_set and hand_chips_ui_set magically no longer work

[chilly pine]

i just know hotpot is gonna be a historical event in the balala community and i cant not be a part of it

[chilly pine]

i love not a number * 10^-9223372036854775858

[umbral pilot]

there will probably be another

[cloud cipher]

Ok so turns out it's not my fault (probably)

[umbral pilot]

maybe

[chilly pine]

and i will be there when it happens

[cloud cipher]

I love talisman omeganum optimization

[hard plank]

😭

sorry my mod is kinda weird

[chilly pine]

we know aiko

we know...

[woven crag]

how could you possibly get a nan there without your score being inf

[cloud cipher]

It was infinity

[chilly pine]

its infitesimally small isnt it

[full edge]

cryptid

[woven crag]

but then why is it nane-big number and not naneinf

[cloud cipher]

35^^^4 is still Infinity apparently
i love talisman

[wanton lintel]

hmm yeah that checks out

[mortal pivot]

is making a center enhancement a big nerf?

[full edge]

i'm not sure i get what you mean

[cloud cipher]

I think i will physically harm someone

[wise stag]

what fr?

[woven crag]

no it doesnt

i think mayhem has planets that multiply hand levels though

[umbral pilot]

ooh me me me yes

[mortal pivot]

forget it i found my answer

[umbral pilot]

hit me

[woven crag]

blunder react

[full edge]

oh the level, yeah, i guess it doesn't

i was thinking of the exotic that makes leveling a hand give it x2

On that note, Kino does have a planet that does that as well

doubling a hand's level, not the x2 thing

[cloud cipher]

Ok so i uninstalled literally every mod i have and omeganum still doesn't omeganum

[full edge]

eh i guess i have that too

[wise stag]

how tf does Heracross joker works

i cant have the same card in my game??

hand*

[mortal pivot]

can u use other math operators in balatro radical etc. ?

[sleek granite]

huh i actually have very few scaling jokers

SMODS.scale_card conversion complete....

[chilly pine]

didnt they add it in new smods

[cloud cipher]

Ok so talisman omeganum optimization is broken
Ill have to use an old version

[mortal pivot]

really?

lemme check smods src

[woven crag]

you can use any mathematical operations supported by lua yeah?

idk what though

and idk what you mean by radical

[chilly pine]

its pretty clear

[woven crag]

its as shrimple as that

[sleek granite]

if you have played a hand of an Ace, King, Queen, Jack, and 10, then heracross is only active if you have no Aces, Kings, Queens, Jacks, or 10s in your hand

[wise stag]

rank=ace,diamond???

[sleek granite]

when have ranks ever been suits

[woven crag]

cube root

[sleek granite]

ruby entropy dont start

[woven crag]

?

[hard plank]

nice

[wise stag]

i legit had and it still activated? 😭

[sleek granite]

ok then heracross is dum

[mortal pivot]

: | its radical in our language

[woven crag]

thats awesome

[wanton lintel]

if i tried adding smth to smods id somehow make everything else not work bc i forgot a semicolon

[sleek granite]

lua doesnt require semicolons ever

[wanton lintel]

you csn use them like commas iirc

[sleek granite]

no

[wanton lintel]

oh

[cloud cipher]

I think they're cosmetic

[sleek granite]

they can be used to indicate a line break

[cloud cipher]

Or that

[sleek granite]

without having it be an actual line break

it's basically pointless

[wanton lintel]

like what end of line commas are

[sleek granite]

no

commas are real

commas are very important

[wanton lintel]

well this proves my point i could not do shit for smods

[west hill]

they help you write code that is harder to read

[torn urchin]

Hey guys

Lyre

Autumn

[sleek granite]

you dont need semicolons for that

hi pearot

[torn urchin]

Cooking

[sleek granite]

oh right i keep meaning to do more with this combine function

it's abstracted out so i can use it with any list of playing cards

and then it'll compress them down into one playing card and give it to ya

there is One joker that uses this lmao

[jaunty galleon]

ok i’ve finally implemented scale_card… for commons

in a mod that adds jokers in 5 rarities

[sleek granite]

lmao i only had like 4 jokers that needed it most of my stuff is effect jokers or calc'd on the fly

[cloud cipher]

Ok new smods versions completely annihilate mayhem

And/or Talisman probably

[sleek granite]

rip talisman we knew you and your limits too well

[cloud cipher]

For starters Talisman calculation keys are gone

Actually that's probably the only major issue

You need to take ownership of calculation parameters now right

[wise stag]

i js found out how op is mr bones

[full edge]

that scale card change is going to take forever to implement, haha, damn

I scale so many jokers

[wise stag]

wish i didnt sell him

[cloud cipher]

I will probably continue developing 0.0.3 on 0711a and then port it to new versions in a hotfix im not dealing with this

[digital jungle]

oh what

[cloud cipher]

Yup

All chip/mult calculation keys are probably broken now

Talisman good update is real

[digital jungle]

man

how am i gonna make numbersloppery now

[cloud cipher]

Porting over shouldn't be that hard

It's mostly Talisman slogging behind

[digital jungle]

eh fair

[cloud cipher]

I am very grateful for these changes and despise them at the same time

[wanton lintel]

Pearto

[wanton lintel]

numberslop rapture

[cloud cipher]

my comments are very descriptive

[digital jungle]

i mean at least you have comments half the shit i have doesnt have any

[cloud cipher]

Same

Probably

[wanton lintel]

mine are either quick descriptions of shit or --work PLEASE I BEG OF YOU
or this one in analog

[wanton lintel]

this deck makes me feel like a [[Big Shot]]

[cloud cipher]

Oh yeah just remembered smods uses spaces for indentation

Im switching to balamod

[sleek granite]

what did i request

[worn dagger]

In a lucid paradise you come here to break the time…

[wise stag]

is this savable

[cloud cipher]

Hold tab and press Win Blind

[sleek granite]

oh right the no graveyard thing

[worn dagger]

Play the straight

[sleek granite]

still stumped as to why i couldn't just patch it in

[wise stag]

man i didnt even see that i had a straight

[sleek granite]

how jolly are you

[wise stag]

did a straight flush lol

are mega stones that rare

[full edge]

probably, yeah

[wise stag]

i did like 20 runs so far and no mega stone yet

[wanton lintel]

the new smods make hand leveling look so silly

[vernal hare]

i’ve been making stupid little changes to charcuterie

[cloud cipher]

Wait does the new smods stuff allow me to have multiple chips and mult windows

That's a planned feature for mayhem

[worn dagger]

Want to see my cat?

[cloud cipher]

Instead of Chips X Mult you could have Chips X Chips X Mult X Mult or something

[full edge]

autumn, did you end up making a new object type for the joker seals?

[worn rain]

smods moment

[hard plank]

@lean dune hi aure

[cloud cipher]

Nice door handle

[worn dagger]

Never heard him called a door handle

[cloud cipher]

This uses your score operator so you can have Chips ^^ Chips ^^ Chips ^^ Mult ^^ Mult

[astral vapor]

why are there so many e's

[cloud cipher]

You need to play mayhem

Also

Hyper-E notation™

Scientific Notation

Big numbers can have "e" which is from scientific notation
aeb = a X 10^b
So basically, whatever is to the left of e is multiplied by 10 to the power of b, or gains b zeroes
ex. 1e5 = 100000 (5 zeroes)

Stacking es

Suppose you have 1e100
100 is actually 1e2 so 1e100 can be written as 1e1e2
For readability, if the number to the left of e is 1, it can be omitted (so 1e1e2 becomes ee2)

Hashtags

suppose you have eeeeee7
Thats 6 es
You can write that as e7#6
ea#b = eeee...ea (b es before a)

More hashtags

Don't know how to explain this so have examples
e7#5#2 = e7#(e7#5)(7 with e7#5 es before it)
e7#5#3 = e7#(e7#(e7#5))

e7##2 = e7#7
e7##3 = e7#7#7
e7##4 = e7#7#7#7

e7###2 = e7##7
etc.

[worn dagger]

eeeeeeee

[chilly pine]

never need more than 1 e

also multiple hashtags notation when

[cloud cipher]

what

[chilly pine]

generalization to any degree n when

[chilly pine]

you know they added hash tags for multiple es?

[cloud cipher]

Symbol for multiple hashtags?

[chilly pine]

exactly

[wanton lintel]

&

use the ampersand

[cloud cipher]

1. Hashtag already does that technically
2. #² = ##
3. Extended Hyper-E Notation

[worn dagger]

Bros never played Jen’s almanac

[chilly pine]

cause its ass

again, you never need more than 1 e

[cloud cipher]

In vanilla, how big is 1e10

[chilly pine]

anyways cool ig

[cloud cipher]

As score

[chilly pine]

10 but vanilla wouldnt express it as that

1 with 10 zeros

[cloud cipher]

No my point is that 1e10 is 1e1e1

[chilly pine]

actually

im sorry

[lean dune]

hi

[storm forum]

-# You either Mayhem it... or use absurd mode of Aiko... or obtain and (Cryptid)-rig Michael Rosen.

[chilly pine]

just write 1 e10 anyways

[cloud cipher]

What if you're a masochist though

[chilly pine]

e is just scientific notation

[cloud cipher]

Think about the possibilities

[lean dune]

hear me out

1e1e1e0

[chilly pine]

dont be a masochist then

[noble grove]

guy how do i remove mods

[full edge]

hey aure, long time no see!

[wanton lintel]

mod that converts every number into hyper e notation

[lean dune]

hiya ice

[wise stag]

i tought glorious glaive was a blessing turned out to be a curse

[cloud cipher]

1e300 = 1e3e2

[chilly pine]

me when i ask a balatro player what eulers number is

[astral vapor]

i got to ante 23 before my modset started crumbling

[hard plank]

aure hi

[lean dune]

hi aiko

[chilly pine]

hellooo john "aure" smods

[cloud cipher]

1e308 = e3.08e2#1 (probably)

[umbral pilot]

wow hi aure

how have you been

[astral vapor]

@hard plank

[chilly pine]

ive heard legends about you

[wanton lintel]

john modding in the chat???

[full edge]

is there a way to refresh the mod manager? I assume this means the mods have been deleted but the manager thinks they're still there. Otherwise, you can just delete them by hand by going into the folder path that's specified there

[lean dune]

hello ethan lovely

[noble grove]

yeah

[wise stag]

Oops! The game crashed:
V=zC$ixrU)!Q&?)NTRawT%Fo4zA@)[:1: ://SHART

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: $C&&1Ri,v) Modded Version: SrJ(5v;(jh&ojYcX*w6F=lg>jnU Love2D Version: jPkw8_ Lovely Version: 25%Mg Steamodded Mods: 1: pn6LyRbr by aA8)bNLOUC,D-+k1"wW [ID: Lf$'M$JV, Priority: -1, Version: ',K;=U:[S]
#]VHO=,%e"^8n>01gwB3uCGY.i=&.WWRHSZ*<R8a@P8r/\yx'k2PpDlWrS
2: n&-A? by [FiihU?1Bd.,)6uu\2QR [ID: '8&/C, Version: W$lG,] )5^kd.cxdo[Z!4<rp7_Gk%jJQF0[3/o;sB=a)GdC,MKj%VuXjp"E$/Ux?u+a! 3: 8t&NQ# by -!nT/ZUl9fIzxUB@UubJ [ID: bA'J._, Version: z>cx9[VJF7Kzv] \\9w>1&bgB5gkqu?>ywkFLl@H+G>/T_rP0MwmUW.4d+;s'Cc76W,#zS*nnhqZLl63pdY,\\KlhOw1a1Xnqbb 4: lsLpVHqY by B3A<4@,@^!'fc@>a!@kv [ID: &sf<I?kP, Version: 7,0-r] Qc4g6n-]om$=;f8#"E=2yeW.b'4TV\\UdV< 5: 2lx1&>[ by 'x(rgQ<O&o\\myT,5i0_K [ID: 2dwB*L[, Priority: 114, Version: tDvsH_)_jR] 1vvu&'@O%X_uxmxfl@M>"RRVnA+d 6: fgmPBu78xj:Wj39f<*IkuH by osIpQ?jUA8O3k;*_Xvf [ID: 4d6tlQP*!LCDBMi@MH$P, Priority: 700, Version: s!w:g'XkV^w>M/ECEf\]
Q>vdzkxu!:0mt$2ENS-_+?i]e^ZRDE'3p3Eqc]0'&'4KG(Zn&1N-.&SS&Ig
yo pls tell me ts is reversable

[noble grove]

i actually delete manually from the folder

[wise stag]

😭

[lean dune]

I've been doing great, though quite busy currently with exams coming up

[hard plank]

update to main

[astral vapor]

how the fuck

[lean dune]

uh is that not a cryptid code card crash?

[hard plank]

oh hi crash card

[grand fossil]

How do I move my debugplus mod to my Balatro and make it work, because when I try, it doesnt work

[chilly pine]

shart

[odd warren]

what is like to best mod that i can get to get like really hige numbers it is my frist time moding

[wise stag]

it is

[hard plank]

#1326135270759993364

[wise stag]

tought this was some type of joke

[cloud cipher]

Oh yeah john ess mods i have a question
Do the new scoring parameter things require you to take ownership of mult and chips to add custom calculation keys

[noble grove]

ok i found a way to refresh it, thank

[lean dune]

yeah just load back and don't use the crash card this time

[wanton lintel]

i forgot about hightest priestess

[lean dune]

uh idk i didn't work on them

[full edge]

cryptid's the mod for that

[cloud cipher]

Ok so the answer is yes

[wanton lintel]

@west hill you are required

[chilly pine]

yoo thats my hand

[odd warren]

how do i get that

[cloud cipher]

Talisman calculation keys are currently broken

[wanton lintel]

jawseone

[full edge]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Cryptid

[lean dune]

i literally haven't even taken one look at the code changes for scoring params

[astral vapor]

what the fuck

[cloud cipher]

Wanted to suggest Flush Seven Hundred and Thirty Four but cryptid already does that

[astral vapor]

oops wrong log

[worn rain]

post trigger currently broken 🗣️

[cloud cipher]

Ok so i can say that they're a burden on my life without offending you (/j don't kill me)

[full edge]

probably better to drop that in a place where people actively fixing the dev build are likely to see it, haha

[astral vapor]

wtf

[wanton lintel]

c

[astral vapor]

how did u change the colors of the mult and chips

[wanton lintel]

trance

[worn rain]

i don't feel like it i just woke up

[astral vapor]

link?

[woeful rune]

can someone tell me what mod does this?

[hard plank]

🏳️‍⚧️

[normal hollow]

jokerdisplay

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1241580123766128761

[hard plank]

whose mod is it

[normal hollow]

ice's

[wanton lintel]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Trance

[woeful rune]

ty

[wanton lintel]

🏳️‍⚧️

[odd warren]

it said i need a talisman

[astral vapor]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:2807: bad argument #1 to 'load' (function expected, got nil)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0731a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: OS X

Stack Traceback

(3) global C function 'load'
(4) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 2807
(5) global C function 'require'
(6) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x01088b0130 {console:false, appendidentity:false, externalstorage:false, accelerometerjoystick:true, gammacorrect:false, modules:table: 0x01088b04d0, window:table: 0x01088b0300 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(9) global C function 'xpcall'
(10) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[hard plank]

lole

[full edge]

yup, you'll wanna download talisman as well. I think if you grab the release, though, talisman should be provided with it

[odd warren]

how do i get that

[wanton lintel]

man idfk
it works fine for me

[full edge]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman

[lean dune]

I'm not easily offended either way, so yes

[cloud cipher]

Just remembered about TooManyOperators again

[cloud cipher]

Honestly i think im just gonna do that in Imperius®

[wanton lintel]

just google "[mod name] balatro" it will almost always give you the miraheze or the github

[odd warren]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:2401: bad argument #1 to '?' (table expected, got nil)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0711a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: builtin#96'
(4) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 2401
(5) global C function 'require'
(6) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x307a59f8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x30783d68, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(9) global C function 'xpcall'
(10) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[west hill]

omg a wild aure

[odd warren]

how do i fix it

[chilly pine]

yoooo also my hand

[west hill]

how cn I help

[cloud cipher]

It's gonna have stuff like this beauty

[wanton lintel]

read what i replied to

[west hill]

wdym add custom calculation keys

[cloud cipher]

Tetrational Mult for example

Mainly asking this because the Talisman ones are currently broken and i need to reimplement them

[west hill]

the talisman ones have already been fixed

[hard plank]

hi eremel

[cloud cipher]

Oh

Well im stuck with omeganum optimization and that's outdated apparently

[west hill]

then dont use dev smods builds

[cloud cipher]

Fair enough

[astral vapor]

wait its not normal that talisman brings balatro down to 15fps?

[woven crag]

generally not

at most youll get stutters at absurdly high operators

[cloud cipher]

That's why omeganum optimization was invented

[wanton lintel]

i dunno how yall are ballin in the new smods my talisman wont talisman

[astral vapor]

i mean it grinds down to 30-15 fps when i

eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[cloud cipher]

That's probably from retriggers

Or other stuff

Or potato pc

[lunar sluice]

omeganum optimisation makes any arbitrary {N} about as intensive as tetration

[astral vapor]

this is an m4 macbook

[lunar sluice]

maybe a little bit more

[astral vapor]

thank you @hard plank

mfw i have dual aikoyori jokers (how the fuck did this happen)

[cloud cipher]

Am i aikoyori now

[lunar sluice]

my bad apple video is nearly 2x more views than my previously most viewed video

what the heck

[astral vapor]

no but their joker was the source of all the retriggers that u mentioned

[cloud cipher]

Bad apel funi people clic vidoe! !

[pseudo dagger]

[cloud cipher]

Oh ok

[wanton lintel]

my game is stuttering opening a damn celestial pack
that could be bc highest priestess or it could apply to other packs idfk

[lean dune]

meow

[lunar sluice]

its probably highest priestess but idk

[hard plank]

ruby

[wanton lintel]

trance's color schemes are peak

[hard plank]

i like scale card

[lunar sluice]

awesome

[pseudo dagger]

yeah

[hard plank]

SMODS.scale_card

[astral vapor]

aikoyori's joker when i load all the crossmod effects

is this naneinf?

i was just aiming for naneinf in omeganum

[cloud cipher]

That is infinitely small for omeganum

[wanton lintel]

not even close w omeganum

[lunar sluice]

going to add iroyokia as a reversed legendary for crossmod

[cloud cipher]

There is simply no understandable way to explain the magnitude of omeganum

[hard plank]

playbook has iroyokia but feel free

[wanton lintel]

big number

[cloud cipher]

Exponentiation (^) is basically 0

[lunar sluice]

ill have to add a second set of inversed effects for every mod

🗣️

[astral vapor]

i mean there is one way

[hard plank]

😭

[lunar sluice]

still easier than highest priestess compat

which i started at one point as a joke

[sleek granite]

there is no reason to care about any omeganum "number" since there is no attainable goal

[cloud cipher]

Omeganum limit (optimized) = 10{1e308}10

[astral vapor]

explain it with this playing in the background

https://youtu.be/TN25ghkfgQA?si=XJFCfo3zeVwYFUhy

[cloud cipher]

Hyperoperations™

1. Succession: a + 1
2. Addition: a + b = a + 1 + 1 + ... (b successions)
3. Multiplication: a X b = a + a + a + ... (b additions)
4. Exponentiation: a ^ b = a X a X a X ... (b multiplications)
5. Tetration: a ^^ b = a ^ a ^ a ^... (b exponentiations)
   ex. 3^^4 = 3^3^3^3^3 (big)
6. Pentation: a ^^^ b = a ^^ a ^^ a ^^... (b tetrations)
   etc.
7. More: Hexation, Heptation, Octation, Enneation, Decation, Undecation, Doedecation, Tredecation...

Succession -> [0]
Addition -> [1]
Multiplication -> [2]
Exponentiation -> [3]
...

Curly Brackets

a{1}b = a ^ b (1 arrow -> {1}, tetration would be {2})
{x} = [x+2]

[wanton lintel]

im gonna act like i know how to make crossmod so i can cross with mods

[astral vapor]

this is just like vsauce...

[astral vapor]

how taxing are these on cpus?

[wanton lintel]

like i know i can do "if mod present then load [crossmodcontent].lua" but idk

[cloud cipher]

assert(load_file(file with crossmod))```
i forgor what the load file function is

[wanton lintel]

death sentence /j

[main path]

eeeeeeee5.019e33 is a huge number...
or is it?

[cloud cipher]

Depends

It gets fussy with low numbers and high operators

[lunar sluice]

meh it shouldnt anymore

[wanton lintel]

like stevie

[lunar sluice]

it kicks in the "very low precision mode" no matter what when the operator is high on the optimisation branch

[cloud cipher]

But if you have incomprehensible number big hyperoperated to incomprehensible number then it's pretty fast

[astral vapor]

were these computations usually reserved for scientific research and simulations of celestial bodies before our infernal poker machine from hell was created

[wanton lintel]

probably lmao

[woven crag]

no hyperoperations are fucking useless for anything in real life lmao

[wanton lintel]

i knew of tetration before i knew balatro

[astral vapor]

very niche theoretical math research walks into the room

[lunar sluice]

tetration is useless too tbh

[woven crag]

tetration is the hyperoperator with actual real life application

but even then

thats like barely anything

[lunar sluice]

unless youre tetrating to a really high power you can just

x^x or x^x^x instead

[cloud cipher]

Did i mention hyperoperations are childs play in googology
Did i mention there's a library that's infinitely bigger than omeganum

[lunar sluice]

sure its like slightly less compat but tetration as a new operator is still useless in this situation

[wanton lintel]

mathematical pocket change

[cloud cipher]

BEAF...

[astral vapor]

please dont tell me someone has managed to get talisman to play with that library

[woven crag]

mmmm.... fast growing functions... yum...................

[cloud cipher]

No we don't want mathguy to go clinically insane

[lean dune]

that sounds horrible

[astral vapor]

the dopamine of number go up cannot be understated

[lunar sluice]

talisman will probably never go any further ever

[woven crag]

okay but youre never reasonably reaching the omeganum limit so theres no reason for a higher limit

[lean dune]

hear me out, what about number go down

[lunar sluice]

im fairly certain in the assertion that the only talisman updates from now on will be bugfixes until people stop using it

[woven crag]

actually you arent ever reaching it at all

[wanton lintel]

what if i made fictorials worse
{x} with x extra sets of brackets

[astral vapor]

64 bit integer limit is gonna cripple the lua interpreter

[cloud cipher]

Fairly sure expantanum is spaghetti code central

[woven crag]

almost none of these numbers were integers to begin with

[lunar sluice]

lua didnt even have a separate integer type for ages

[astral vapor]

https://youtu.be/Mqogn7vTnsQ?si=cgnjQklSFgi347CC

why

are people still trying

[cloud cipher]

Technically speaking mayhem design can upgrade jokers to practically any googology threshold
All i have to do is add more tiers and boom expansion

[cloud cipher]

No
I nearly made my friend do it but he also doesn't want to go clinically insane

[full edge]

this is why I'm capping counters at 9

that's a real number

[lunar sluice]

me and lily were looking into something with beaf at some point before giving up like basically instantly because it was too hard and also not worth it

[astral vapor]

https://youtu.be/dCMcmvju86g?si=aOaym9T7KTiLTcoF

[cloud cipher]

Infinity means nothing in omeganum

[lean dune]

I'll cap my counters at 9+7i, that's most certainly not a real number

[full edge]

infinity's a failsafe, no?

[cloud cipher]

It's an error
Exponentiation will not get you there
ever

[astral vapor]

what about a joker that blatantly sets the chips or mult to the omeganum limit

[lean dune]

by magnitude of course, unless anyone can help me order complex numbers

[cloud cipher]

Not only practically but also technically because I'm fairly sure all of the approximation just won't let you

[woven crag]

i mean they didnt even win the blind so its not actually infinity or even close

[cloud cipher]

Second stupid smods question of the day
What happened to G.FUNCS.hand_mult_ui_set and G.FUNCS.hand_chip_ui_set

[lean dune]

yeah at some point exponentiation doesn't matter anymore so there's not enough precision for it to ever change anything

[lunar sluice]

infinity in most situations with talisman is actually NaN

[woven crag]

Infinity either means 1/inf or just something so big the score display cant display iirc

[lean dune]

same for tetration at some point later etc

[lunar sluice]

thats why a while ago i made it display as a NaN

theres basically only 1 way to get actual infinity

[lean dune]

1/0 rather

[lunar sluice]

and its having an operator thats a bignum

or dividing by 0 but youre not gonna do that in normal gameplay

[lean dune]

bugged seeds would like to have a word

[cloud cipher]

please help me i want big number funny effects

[astral vapor]

how much do i need to pay

[lunar sluice]

they are generic now

to all scoring_parameters

i forgot what the new function is called

[astral vapor]

maybe for at least an omeganum optimization that makes it more speedy

[cloud cipher]

$2e523{{{{e462##35}}}}eee3

[astral vapor]

ahem ahem repetition

[cloud cipher]

Have you tried Talisman Omeganum Optimization branch

[astral vapor]

no i'm on main

[cloud willow]

ello chat

[ornate bone]

I have another challenge idea: Gimmie a hand here. You start with just 1 hand and upon clearing antes you gain an extra hand.

[cloud cipher]

I will personally hold a ceremonial party when omeganum optimization gets merged

[cloud willow]

finally got balatro on steam

[lunar sluice]

omeganum optimisation can probably get merged but i need someone to test a shit ton

in terms of

[cloud willow]

do yall think I should keep going or abort and sell canvas

[lunar sluice]

migrating varying different saved games from the main branch to the new branch and seeing what happens

ideally with the setting set to bignum

[full edge]

abort

[cloud cipher]

Me probably
Tetration is really wonky

[full edge]

please don't trick yourself into thinking waiting is gameplay

[astral vapor]

im trying to squeeze as much performance out of balatro as i can

[cloud willow]

oh its not gameplay but its funny to watch the numbers go up

i'm playing btd6 rn as I wait lol

[lean dune]

abort if you care about not wasting your own time

[woven crag]

there are way better ways to get bigger numbers than retriggers

[astral vapor]

also will anyone optimize card rendering for when i have a kgphghpjajillion cards on screen

[full edge]

the number's not going up much if you're calculations are taking this time

[lunar sluice]

use :tetration instead of arrow probably

but i can try fix it

[cloud cipher]

Cartomancer

[lunar sluice]

not :tetration i mean :tetrate

[cloud willow]

I have a single canvas lmao
that is my only retrigger

[full edge]

The way Cryptid's jokers work, if you're maximizing calculation time, you're not maximizing score. You're literally just waiting longer

[cloud cipher]

Doesn't big:arrow return big:tetrate if arrows is 2

[woven crag]

theres plenty of card stacking mods and cartomancer which can hide cards

[astral vapor]

WHY DO I NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE MODS

[lunar sluice]

oh wait

yeah im not even on the right branch

[woven crag]

well yeah but it retriggers for EVERY non-common to the right so like

thats a lot

[cloud willow]

oh yeah fair

[lunar sluice]

X{N}1 is always X right

[cloud cipher]

I've also been getting some wonky Big:slog crashes

[cloud cipher]

Yes

[cloud willow]

the 28 warios probably aren't helping

also considering that its retriggering waluigi ;-;

retrigger squared

[cloud cipher]

attempt to index nil value here

[lunar sluice]

x.array should definitely exist so thats weird

[astral vapor]

funny card game
looks inside
theoretical math

[lunar sluice]

maybe attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value

[cloud cipher]

Let me try replicating the crash

[ornate bone]

I'd also probably make a Dr. Squatch Joker

[full edge]

You'll wanna sell most of those, as they're adding time but adding neglible score, if you wanna actually go for number go up. Those jokers trigger for every trigger, so they add an insane amount of calculation time, but either don't add score, or add money you no longer need

[cloud cipher]

I had a tetration joker per card played and my base mult and chips were pentation level

[astral vapor]

balatro tricked me into learning math

[cloud willow]

im just playing for stupid stuff idk care about actually doing well

[odd warren]

what mod is really good for hige numbers

[full edge]

Haha, I'm just mostly trying to convince you to not just let a game calculate for ten minutes without it mattering 😛

[normal hollow]

joyousspring

[astral vapor]

yay thats one more mult on that joker!

joyous spring

[exotic belfry]

Real lol

[cloud cipher]

At lumiii are you here just for big number
If so then you're missing out

[hard plank]

i am crying

[cloud cipher]

Nearest neighbor upscaling failure try again later

[main path]

ah yes the bitrate destroyer

[cloud cipher]

UnseenExplosion mayhem stream

He didn't even get into the SCARY transcendences

[ornate bone]

Same. That shit is awfully sketchy

[exotic belfry]

Aikoyori just got sent to the potato mines

We will miss them

[exotic belfry]

Oh my god 😭

[digital jungle]

damn i hope they dont explode

[odd warren]

what even is this

[normal hollow]

yugioh

[neat widget]

all that work just to summon blue eyes

[odd warren]

how do you even do it

[neat widget]

you tribute 2 monsters

or you use maiden if you're a bitch

[odd warren]

ok thanks

[twin juniper]

Does a "ctrl z" mod exist? I wish sometimes I could go back in my previous action to test things! Or just correct big stupide mistake lol

[cloud cipher]

the sequel

[sweet bramble]

the debugplus mod (among many other things) lets you set up to three save states that you can save or load at any time! unfortunately a simple ctrl z mod doesn't exist afaik but hopefully this one serves you well!

[main path]

man
is this the experience of playing flower cardians irl

[solar sandal]

hi chat

[cloud cipher]

Aven i have some great news the latest dev version of smods breaks Talisman omeganum optimization calculation keys which means mods can't have anything above exponentiation
Talisman good update is real