⚙・modding-general

[plush hound]

placeholder effect

[hard plank]

now i wanna do windows beta stuff so like

I'll try to mimic the windows glass effect with shaders

[storm forum]

Aero texture.

[plush hound]

how did you get this

[hard plank]

i love the goofy ass longhorn effect where it's just

a metric ton of glass

[storm forum]

https://archive.org/details/os-mockup-kit-1.2_202212

[hard plank]

this specific windows longhorn build

[balmy tangle]

alternate universe vista gives me the creeps

[storm forum]

Frankly, doesn't look like any of the actual builds... more of a mockup for show.

[real oracle]

I'm very bad at pixel art

[shadow citrus]

Can I not post links here?

[plush hound]

@harsh glacier did you push your achievements in your github?

if so, can i look at it

[plush hound]

a link to?

[shadow citrus]

youtube. I think my post had gotten deleted

[plush hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcdPz6kE71I

worked for me

[dusty mist]

Sigma 33

[shadow citrus]

what i meant was is it against the rules. My post from ike 2 hours ago isnt here anymore

[plush hound]

i dont think so

maybe your internet connection

[dense egret]

nah the chat just eat it

[plush hound]

lmao

[shadow citrus]

was trying to ask what mod is in this Youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f0ceEklc1M&list=PLdNGt-ihEAcF_q3XmuQP1swI6JTrOt5-Q&index=61

[hard plank]

(i don't even have access to betaarchive and i don't think i ever will be able to find anything to submit)

[plush hound]

@latent crescent it says here that you made this mod

[storm forum]

...you say that... and I do have access.

[hard plank]

i legit don't have anything to upload

[dreamy abyss]

chat what do you think of this chocolate cake 3d model i ripped from a shitty ds game

[astral vapor]

WHO CODED THIS BLIND

[frigid mica]

Lead developer of Cryptid, Ruby?

[grand geode]

ooh..... get walled....

[frigid mica]

Deceitful Decay when Double Scale walks in

[real oracle]

Peak

[summer geyser]

Dude why is this a placeholder
Balatro in GMod is great

[summer geyser]

Deceitful Decay when Mucho Texto walks in

[hard plank]

get walled

[astral vapor]

im sorry

i have failed y'all

[hard plank]

it's ok

all run dies

[astral vapor]

no its not

[hard plank]

eventually

[astral vapor]

you need to step on me

/j

[full edge]

@storm forum with this technology, is it possible to have the standard Windows background for TOGA's??

[hard plank]

i will pass

[torn urchin]

Woah

[astral vapor]

I WAS SLASH J

SLASH J

KIDDING

I WAS JOKING

[torn urchin]

Freaky

[hard plank]

what is slash j

[frigid mica]

Diagram

[torn urchin]

Idk

[frigid mica]

This is wishlist btw

[full edge]

I think it's homosexual fanfiction about the joker?

[storm forum]

Potentially, but not on by default, I'd think.

[torn urchin]

Ew

Actually which one

[full edge]

Caesar Romero's?

Oh, Ali, could you link that windows explainer movie you mentioned like months ago? In my head it had the like NSYNC or the How I met your mother cast in it?

[torn urchin]

Oh well

[astral vapor]

NO THATS DIFFERENT AND FOR LATER

[astral vapor]

what the fuck

[frigid mica]

I don’t actually know how I would be able to make it so that you can choose between jokers in a box.

[storm forum]

https://youtu.be/6ypXfodOu-s

[full edge]

I wanna add that as a Crossmod joker but I haven't found it, haha

Oooh, shit, it was friends! Thanks!

[astral vapor]

how i met your windows 95

i miss when windows was simple

and didnt depend on ai

[full edge]

also, Ali, gonna draw a RTC joker based on this UI for you today and force you to add it to the mod

[astral vapor]

make a doom one too

[storm forum]

yeah.

[storm forum]

...an ability will also have to be thought of. 🍞

[hard plank]

(it was never simple)

[astral vapor]

windows is still like that but with ai and tracking

at least w95 didnt track you

[hallow flame]

changed it

[storm forum]

https://winaero.com/how-about-chatgpt-on-windows-3-11-wingpt-is-here-for-that/

[astral vapor]

fuck...

[mortal pivot]

um... i thinks they're alright

[hard plank]

personally not a fan of 2 characters per line

you either commit to the verticality or write it sideways

it looks messy

[astral vapor]

el ementa L

[mortal pivot]

i try to make it better

[wraith seal]

you could have the element names in the background leftmost bottom corner

[mortal pivot]

like this?

[wraith seal]

mhm

[hard plank]

why are pixels not the same size

that's going to drive me nuts

[grand geode]

mixelling happens

[hard plank]

ts pmo

[wraith seal]

i didnt notice that and i wish i still didnt

[frigid mica]

Do you ever get so braindeadly stumped that you resort to not doing anything productive?

[hard plank]

i will do something else

[wraith seal]

yes

[hard plank]

i never have enough time to do things

[wraith seal]

i would work on another mod when that happens

:3

[frigid mica]

I’m stumped trying to implement this.

[grand geode]

i mean i have no clue what the fuck this is either

[wraith seal]

if im burnt out on all three of my mods then:

1. i go to modding dev to help people
2. make another "small" mod

same

[frigid mica]

Wishlist.

[torn urchin]

Unfortunately

[wraith seal]

yeah no i know that, i just dont know ur exact thought progress here lol

[frigid mica]

First step is the “choosing a card” part.

I’m opting for “open collection”

[mortal pivot]

how about this?

[frigid mica]

Then I realized I don’t know how to do exactly that.

[wraith seal]

no

[torn urchin]

The e and r are backwards but other than that it looks good

[civic atlas]

goof

[frigid mica]

What

[torn urchin]

Insomnia

[sudden fjord]

the balatro folder is in appdata roaming right

[frigid mica]

Mods yes

[wraith seal]

not to u

[frigid mica]

Actual files is in the program files Steam folder

[sudden fjord]

im backing up the stuff i need on an external hard drive because im switching from windows 11 to atlas 11

[wraith seal]

also im out for now, on church and 2% battery

[sleek granite]

hello party people

[wraith seal]

3:

[sudden fjord]

yeah yeah i know i will reinstall the thing

[wraith seal]

hi autumn and bye autumn

[sleek granite]

bepsi

enjoy the juice

[frigid mica]

Rip

[sudden fjord]

i just copied my balatro folder that has my cryptid profile and mods

[hard plank]

the pixel size is fucking kill me

dawg

[sleek granite]

apple data

[hard plank]

old shenanigans screenshot

[sleek granite]

created bykoyori

[hard plank]

I'll fix later smh

[mortal pivot]

fire one

[sudden fjord]

now

fellas

should i also move my user folder

from c:/users/thethingineed

its a whopping 20 gb

[hard plank]

legally paid for

[grand geode]

the mixelling is crazy

[sleek granite]

legally ball

[mortal pivot]

0_0 what should i draw for air ?

[torn urchin]

Pixels

[sleek granite]

a giant fan

pearto any hip new tetos

[frigid mica]

Cloud

[torn urchin]

Huh

Have you seen Spamteto?

[sleek granite]

yea

was there an antiteto i heard

or did that not become

[torn urchin]

I got rid of it

[sleek granite]

oh ok

never mind conteto

continue on

[sleek granite]

cute

[torn urchin]

4 more teto left

[sleek granite]

teto 4ever

[torn urchin]

-# I also need to make 3 other jokers but I'll figure those later

[sleek granite]

FIRE!!! Teto?

[torn urchin]

I was thinking of doing fire teto

Minimum Rage

[sleek granite]

teto with has gun

[torn urchin]

Was thinking it would destroy a card

Cause gun

[sleek granite]

On The Way Down Teto haha

[torn urchin]

Maybe

I was thinking of doing log off

[sleek granite]

oh man i forgot about dizzy paranoia girl

[torn urchin]

Maybe good intentions

Obviously I'm gonna add more tetos after this but

[sleek granite]

poteto to go with pearto

[torn urchin]

Hm

Probably should take a break from Teto and add 3 random jokers

Need to organize my shit

[hard plank]

i wonder why i just forked steamodded again

[sleek granite]

hmmmmmmmm mystery aikoyori

[mortal pivot]

😁 wow how detailed

[hard plank]

i would like you to fix the pixel consistency 😔

ok wtf

[torn urchin]

Agreed

[mortal pivot]

sorry my english is kinda bad wdym?

[sleek granite]

heat death of mixel

[hard plank]

this is the only one i could find

it's not all bad

this is specifically for Minecraft so it looks more like the game

[mortal pivot]

aha ok i'll work on it

[hard plank]

not saying you can't use any but this is specifically for Minecraft

[torn urchin]

Brings me back to when I drew Minecraft weapons

[harsh glacier]

this technically has mixels

[mortal pivot]

ik

[hard plank]

it does

[harsh glacier]

i was having a field day for the past 30 minutes

[sleek granite]

undertale lookin sword

[harsh glacier]

my aseprite looked fucking desaturated

[sleek granite]

haya is desaturated

[torn urchin]

I made a lot of things back then

Boredom

[full edge]

text so smallll

[sleek granite]

what if you put some of the cooler ones into balatro

or funnier ones

[torn urchin]

Me?

[sleek granite]

so like just most of them actually

yeah

[torn urchin]

Idk

[hard plank]

waiter waiter more run info tab please

[sleek granite]

Black-Hole-On-A-Stick

[torn urchin]

I remember when I started drawing Jokers and the change to 32 x 32 to 71 x 95 was huge

[sleek granite]

i love it

[full edge]

I should make the quest completion indicator match the current rarity colour, I reckon

[sleek granite]

someone should make run info tabs page

ice! hi

[full edge]

I was going to, just so it would be autummood proof with the run info tabs you add, but then I learned that I fully misunderstood how the option toggles work

hey hey autumn

[sleek granite]

i think i only add suit level tab there

graveyard is in your deck

prestige is from 0ERROR

[full edge]

yeah, 2 additional tabs is already a lot, haha

text too big?

[sleek granite]

text too text

[sharp fjord]

finally making some progress for my mod (ignore the -30 chips, I made it that way for fun). How can I add my own images to the jokers?

[storm forum]

Initialize your own atlas for them... though this is more for #💻・modding-dev

[full edge]

not as clean as I want it to be, but good enough for now

[wanton rapids]

oh interesting

so 6/6 makes it common?

[full edge]

Yeah. It's not entirely clear in the explanation, but I thought it'd be simpler to just get the main point across. But 3 conditions met makes it rare, 4 conditions met uncommon, 5 and 6 common. But I truly think players will ever comfortably hit 6 conditions met before ante 8

As you need an additional consumable slot, specific jokers, and very deck fixed deck

[hard plank]

notmario

help

[full edge]

Next up is the UI for spellcasting objects, and then I think I'm done for now, as far as UI stuff goes

No wait, Spellslinger deck UI as well

[hard plank]

AAAAAAA

[wanton rapids]

?

[hard plank]

the glop

[balmy tangle]

grejn

[wanton rapids]

anyways i got mods working on my Linux laptop so that's nice

[hard plank]

it's taking over

[balmy tangle]

[hard plank]

did you get a new laptop

[balmy tangle]

which distro

[hard plank]

hopefully not arch

[balmy tangle]

my friend's dad used arch for a month, it broke itself, and has been using fedora kde for years perfectly fine

[wanton rapids]

it's fedora

with gnome

[wanton rapids]

no it's the same one it just was broken under windows

[hard plank]

i would shill ultramarine

balatro balatrez

[sleek granite]

john balatro

[plush hound]

might as well call it a tarot pack brochacho 🥀

[dreamy abyss]

notmario

[sleek granite]

chat what if i buff wild cards

[frigid mica]

I’ll just make the other jokers for my Busted Buffoons mod

The top priority is always the Joker.

My next Rare Joker is the Sheriff Joker (aka Vigilante from Pizza Tower), played lucky cards give x10 chips and $5 dollars. (Or $3 I forgot, I’ll check notes)

[harsh glacier]

missingnumber

[dreamy abyss]

haya

[harsh glacier]

does balatro hevven have tags

[dreamy abyss]

balatro hevven has tags but only one (the one for the flow packs) is actually a skip tag

of the others, one comes from a tarot and the others just handle flow cards

[cloud cipher]

it's real
Yes i know the art sucks

[hard plank]

uh

[cloud cipher]

I love ** **ing in Balatro. ** ** is also a very fun activity in Balatro

[livid meadow]

aiko what are you doing

[torn urchin]

Language

Me thinks

[livid meadow]

in the last screenshot aiko sent everything was green and the characters were squares

classic aikyori shennanigans

[sleek granite]

haya i have two mods with tags

[livid meadow]

thats awesome

[sleek granite]

its some of the only content amm adds

two tags, one for a mega oddity pack and another that grants a legendary oddity

along with the packs themselves

[grand geode]

im going insane

[hard plank]

mega oddity pack

[hard plank]

wtf

[grand geode]

juxtaposed

like

[hard plank]

😭

[dreamy abyss]

0 error will have tags. eventually.

[sleek granite]

mega oddity pack

[grand geode]

rhythm doctor competition 21 veteran bracket juxtaposition

im going insane

[wanton rapids]

missingnumber

[hard plank]

notmario will there be cross mod

[wanton rapids]

uh

[hard plank]

wtf

<@&1133519078540185692>

[hot perch]

im shaping my eyebrows :(

[hard plank]

sowwy

[wanton rapids]

oh did amm absorb oddityapi

[hard plank]

help

[plush hound]

shark shaped?

[livid meadow]

again what the hell are you doing

[hard plank]

something good

[livid meadow]

can you expand on that

[hot perch]

😭

[plush hound]

IDK WHAT EYEBROW SHAPING IS

i thought shaping like.playdoh

[hard plank]

ok now what the hell did i do

[torn urchin]

What are you doing 😭

[hot perch]

using tweezers or wax and cutting them to shape them

[torn urchin]

Actually nvm

It's gonna be good regardless

[torn urchin]

Cooked 😭

[plush hound]

WDYM COOKED

[plush hound]

can you shape them into loss?

[dreamy abyss]

0 error when

[hard plank]

gpu crying

[hot perch]

ur going in the cage

[plush hound]

D:

[livid meadow]

this is terrifying

[hot perch]

😭 😭

[plush hound]

even the mod can't escape the gif purgatory

[hard plank]

true

[hot perch]

i think it is very rude

but understandable since people cannot behave themselves

[livid meadow]

but why are you subject to the same filtering

can the mods not behave themselves either

[gilded tulip]

Nobody is in purgatory of anything

the only thing holding you back is skill issue™

[sleek granite]

yep

[livid meadow]

my internet is dying
it cant handle that gif

[hard plank]

even the gods weep to my desires

[livid meadow]

nvm its epic games

destroying my internet

[gilded tulip]

Score at least Cash Out 6$

that would be a really funny boss blind

[hot perch]

i love this gif so much especially both the orange kittens panicking and trying to help 😭

[sleek granite]

i forget if oddities require an optional feature or not (probably not)

[gilded tulip]

no score requirement, but you need to earn at least X$ during the cash out to win

[hard plank]

wtf is this cryptid version

[torn urchin]

https://imgur.com/a/psKMeQU

[gilded tulip]

otherwise you lose

[unkempt relic]

how to recover a seed

[torn urchin]

Holy moly

[hard plank]

pjsk

[torn urchin]

I think you missed a spot

[hot perch]

what about x cash during the round

[acoustic igloo]

https://youtu.be/IcwKyHKZ24Q?t=1095

Guys, Balatro actually gets mentioned in the latest Harry Gold video

[grand geode]

egg have you seen the qoh blind i made :3

[gilded tulip]

?

[latent crescent]

Because it is

[grand geode]

#1248249207526002698 last video

not reposting to not drown this channel

[tidal spade]

guys im trying to install cryptid but, when i install all the mod and that i get in game, there is NO mod
tho there is lovely command prompt

[woven crag]

do you have all the required mods

[tidal spade]

since i got them on github source i had to remove the "-main- from their name

[woven crag]

the -main doesnt really matter for loading the mod

but uhhhh

[tidal spade]

but changing it dosen't change anything ?

[woven crag]

no folder names dont matter for anything

[grand geode]

not sure if you wanted your name on the screenshot lol

[tidal spade]

i don't really care tbh

[livid meadow]

does everything else load? like smods and talisman

[grand geode]

nods

[woven crag]

check if any of the mod folders have a .lovelyignore file/folder in it

[livid meadow]

SMODS isnt loading

what inside the smods folder

if its just another folder, move that folder to the mods folder

[woven crag]

oh yeah github makes nested files by default thats probably the issue

[tidal spade]

nested files?

[livid meadow]

when the folder is inside another folder

[livid meadow]

thank you aiko

[woven crag]

thank you aikoyori

[hard plank]

ok so

i was trying to make glowing text

[woven crag]

i haveth a lasere pointere

[tidal spade]

thanks roulxs

[tidal spade]

ALIRGHTT

thanks ^w^

[gloomy mural]

i'm haves a laysernd ponter

[woven crag]

yep truth

[hard plank]

完全

[grand geode]

human i remember your genocides ?

[worldly owl]

Do you have to send here modded balatro clips

[hard plank]

what

[worldly owl]

Yes

[gloomy mural]

is it tv time tho

[normal hollow]

you don't have to send clips

[livid meadow]

if you want to discuss mods this is the best place

[sharp fjord]

finally managed to get my first art inside of my mod

[worldly owl]

I meant if i have a clip of balatro featuring mods does it have to be in this category

[normal hollow]

yes

[worldly owl]

Oki

[normal hollow]

qol mods are usually fine in the other channels

but content mods should be here

[worldly owl]

I just had a clip of a card saying the bee movie script

And i wanted to share it

[hard plank]

does joyousspring count to qol

[normal hollow]

of course

[worldly owl]

Qol = quality of life?

[livid meadow]

it actively improves the quality of your life

[gloomy mural]

me when i install handy (i am now thriving)

[hard plank]

i don't yahimod sorry

[worldly owl]

I do what mod i see

I liked the ultrakill card

[hard plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

way too gimmicky

[worldly owl]

I still like to play unmodded more

But some time i play modded

Ok that was all i have to say bye bye

[hard plank]

ok

[normal hollow]

aiko do you play modded

[hard plank]

no

[normal hollow]

thank god

[hard plank]

every mod is basically the same

so why bother

[normal hollow]

i agree

[hard plank]

just play vanilla at that point if you want vanilla content

[worldly owl]

Ok

[summer geyser]

Yahimod?

[worldly owl]

Yes

[summer geyser]

Who am i joking, it's yahimod. It's even got swapper and horse seals.

[hard plank]

ok

[summer geyser]

Ok

[worldly owl]

Ok

[summer geyser]

Ok

[worldly owl]

Ultrakill

[summer geyser]

Ok

[worldly owl]

Ok

[hard plank]

literally ok

[worldly owl]

Absolute ok

[hard plank]

have you seen my mod yet

WHAT THE FUCK PISSANDSHITTIUM

[worldly owl]

No

Which of the links is it

Found it

Downloading it when im home

Aka in 6 hours

[modest canyon]

okay so whats The Balatro Essentials Pack (TM)?

[hard plank]

my assumption was dragon maid

[mortal pivot]

i just watched hereditary and it was shit

[normal hollow]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/JoyousSpring/Jokers/Dragonmaid

[mortal pivot]

thanks

[mortal pivot]

is yu gi oh manga?

[livid meadow]

It's high up on my list of films to watch
I've heard great things about that and the director in general

[normal hollow]

yes but these cards don't appear in it

[harsh glacier]

N

[modest canyon]

M

[mortal pivot]

me too and thats why i watched it but it was very slow in first hour u see nothing and in second one just mother and sons illusions and a bit blood and death

[livid meadow]

From what I understand that was very deliberate

Beau is Afraid is similar in that regard

3 hours long and the entire film makes no sense

Literally

The point seems to be that the film is not literal and you have to interpret it

Which is cool but makes it a bit of a niche film

[full edge]

I did not fuck with Beau is Afraid at all. Love Midsommar, though

[mortal pivot]

i like analog horror and i choose them for fun a lot. my friends told me this film is similar to them but only thing similar between them is their genre

[sleek granite]

balatro goes kino

[livid meadow]

I gave it a 4 star rating
It was originally lower because despite the cinematogprahy, acting, etc, it was just too slow and nonsensical
But I increased my rating cos I kept tryna figure out the true meaning afterwards so it succeeded at what it was trying to do

[mortal pivot]

that being too slow in horror is really annoying

[full edge]

Ari Aster's a director where I'm a lot more into hearing him talk about film than actually watching his films, haha. Hereditary is one I think I would've liked more without the occultism stuff just because the stuff that worked for me was the other stuff. Beau is Afraid also just didn't work for me because I think I just dislike Joaquin Phoenix as an actor and really struggly to get into any of his performances

[full edge]

never watch skinamarink, haha

[livid meadow]

That's fair

[plush hound]

link tho

[livid meadow]

I do appreciate that he is trying to make smth different ig

[full edge]

Oh yeah, I hope he keeps making stuff. Stuff doesn't have to be for me to be interesting, luckily

[livid meadow]

Depends what you want out of a horror film
Generally if you want a purely horror film, then yeah it should not me slow 😭

[latent crescent]

https://github.com/OceanRamen/ChallengerPlus

[mortal pivot]

now what i want to do after 2h horror film? re:zero s3 e1

[full edge]

I love both the schlocky horror and the pretentious horror that's exploring grief through some ghost metaphor probably. Honestly a struggle to not just have Kino turn into a mod that's only got horror movies, haha

[mortal pivot]

why e1 is 1:30 hours? 😭

[livid meadow]

Question
What do y'all think about longlegs

[mortal pivot]

that animation? or having longlegs?

[plush hound]

jimbo :D

[full edge]

Thought it was very okay. I think it struggled to find the tone, though, as far as knowing whether it was a satanic panic movie with actual occult elements, or a zodiac-esque horror thriller, so it kinda falters the end. Did love the visuals of it, though

[latent crescent]

[mortal pivot]

oh this

[livid meadow]

yeah that one

[livid meadow]

i agree

[mortal pivot]

when i was 5 or 6 i watched this cartoon and name was daddy longlegs 😁 sorry my bad

[livid meadow]

i think it wouldve done better if it wasnt marketed as like the scariest film ever

it was a thriller at best

[livid meadow]

no worries haha

[full edge]

the marketting never came over here, so I was immunized, luckily, haha

[full edge]

is this a pippi longstockings anime? haha

[mortal pivot]

i think the real name is something else but translated name was daddy longlegs

[mortal pivot]

i think so idk real name

and tv censored original plot to make it fine for kids😁

[unkempt relic]

hi

[cloud cipher]

Have a slight feeling that jen might come to my house for this but oh well
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XP08sFYq4SbVzR_98WPUdSQaXw_39HqNRrKTDSfpGRc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[runic pollen]

I know its pretty much a bad joker but here i have a suggestion for a modded joker:
I literally have no idea for the name i just thought about it-
But what i thought is a joker that everytime you beat a boss blind you get a random skip tag

sorry if that sounded confusing i just woke up

[prisma latch]

just realised that when i do the joker rework for rascal then like. 4 copies of troubadour will basically just let you skip the game. each copy means you have to defeat 1 less card so with 4 copies, only like. amethyst army can stop you from instawinning

[nova flower]

is there any way to get my pc save onto the iphone version and vice versa

[wanton lintel]

burnt at the stake/j
these reworked ideas are fire

[regal heron]

where that one mod which has scoring speed up animation?

[wanton lintel]

handy speeds it up, talisman skips it entirely

[cloud cipher]

Nopeus or Handy
Nopeus is no longer public so getting it can be tricky

[regal heron]

elaborate on no longer public

same case as polterworx?

[wanton lintel]

yeah

[cloud cipher]

I have it archived if you want it, and there's heaps of places to get it on github

[latent crescent]

animation skip: exist

[wanton lintel]

i did not know that was a thing

[lunar sluice]

talisman as scoring speed up is like a dubious at best suggestion btw

i think if you dont need to use talisman for score limit you shouldnt at all

[latent crescent]

Talisman by existence tanks performance a lot for reasons

[wanton lintel]

i use talisman bc on average i have like 15 mods enabled that get a little insane
i like using handy for scoring anims tho bc the balatro scoring sounds and the score going up always are so satifying

[lunar sluice]

i have not needed animation skip in my runs in a very long time now

effect of not playing with cryptid

[wanton lintel]

i think the only time i wished i had it on was when i used four pureprints and it took six minutes to score

[latent crescent]

If scoring takes more than 1 game update to calculate it's a number slop, or baron mime run

[lunar sluice]

baron mime is basically numberslop still

its boring for the exact same reason

[latent crescent]

Yea kinda

Idol thing more interesting tho

[wanton lintel]

no the scoring calc took like a second the animation took six whole minutes bc it was just every single pureprint giving the chips and mult animation like a gajillion times

i didnt know "copies every joker" became a quark drive when its more than 2 of them

[lunar sluice]

i dont like idol because its a card which literally is only good in endless

which is really weird

[latent crescent]

Or in mp

[lunar sluice]

i mean not really

if you get really lucky then sure

but if you get really lucky then

you can just find 50 blueprints

[latent crescent]

In mp idol works differently a bit

[lunar sluice]

mp changing stuff is lame

imo

i always play on the vanilla ruleset

[latent crescent]

Probably idol patched in any ruleset, not sure

I'll check it

[lunar sluice]

if idol is patched in any ruleset then its especially lame

[latent crescent]

It patched in a way which in normal run you'll didn't notice

[lunar sluice]

it being changed at all is lame and stupid

whether the average person might notice it or not

[latent crescent]

Oh it's part of TheOrder mod, not MP specifically

[wanton lintel]

how far was it even changed bc im not a fan of the core mechanics i remember being changed

[lunar sluice]

i think the hanging chad change is the worst one tbh

because

literally all it does is kill photochad

every other hanging chad strategy is not really changed with good enough deckfixing

[wanton lintel]

how do you change hanging chad

[lunar sluice]

1 retrigger for the first 2 cards

literally just harmful to photochad and 0 other strategies

like why whats the point

[wanton lintel]

hating photochad clearly

[trail berry]

retrigger first card 2 additional times
-1 retriggers if you have photograph

:bucky:

[lunar sluice]

i mean thats basically what the rework is

1 retrigger on the first 2 cards is basically identical for almost every other strategy

[full edge]

I mean, that kind of Rebalancing is kind of inevitably needed when trying to convert a sp game into competitive multiplayer, no?

[wanton lintel]

or the all 10 of spades glitched erratic deck

[humble saffron]

the change does not exist in vanilla unseeded

[lunar sluice]

i mean sure whatever

but

some of the changes are really weird

[wanton lintel]

no??? the game could work fine mp as is

[humble saffron]

like it's only an under the hood change to the way idol selects cards, it doesn't mess with weights or mechanics or anything

[full edge]

Oh I don't doubt that, haha. I've not really looked at multiplayer as is in like months

[lunar sluice]

idk i really just dont like the hanging chad change speciifcally

and removing justice

everything else is like whatever

"glass cards are boring" so is like every other strong strategy

strong strategies are just boring

[wanton lintel]

i have no intent of playing mp i prefer not being rushed to do stuff
this same reason is why i hate the clock

[wanton lintel]

they what
thats stupid
they are removing a core part of the game bc its "boring"

[lunar sluice]

idk if thats the reason

i just dont know why else you would do it

its not exactly too strong when both people have acess to it

theres still a lot of strategising to optimise your score with all glass cards

[wanton lintel]

sometimes i cook up silly ones that make me giggle but yeah
(i once did fibonacci, wee, hack, and hanging chad)

[full edge]

I mean, it working and it being the best possible experience are separate things I guess. I mean mostly that the deckbuilding and balancing of the game isn't built around trying to outscore another player. The amount of viable builds changes heavily for each seed when the goal is to outscore a competitor, rather than the blind, and makes a lot of viable stuff a lot less useful

[latent crescent]

Glass by itsel very poverful so it makes every other strategies useless, only valid strategy - red seal polychrome card with retriggers like dusk or sock my buskin etc

[lunar sluice]

glass does not make other strategies useless

when youre trying to beat an opponent

[latent crescent]

Thi change targeted to make other strategies viable at least at bit

[lunar sluice]

literally 1 extra mult will matter

if everyone has all glass then all glass doesnt matter

you WILL have to do something extra

[latent crescent]

All games I played in vanilla ruleset is glass cards race

Especially with DNA

[lunar sluice]

okay but both people have the same seed

so you need to do something differently

[full edge]

Yeah but that shifts it to a game of econ and luck

[lunar sluice]

then just have good econ?

thats the point of the game

[humble saffron]

i mean if you're playing vanilla no-order someone's probably getting luckier lol

[wanton lintel]

i have played many a strategy in balatro where i literally have been simply saved by one glass card in a pinch
we can have our glass cards and not use them in a build

[latent crescent]

I lose a game to DrSpectred because I did not get kinds in hand to start copying them so I started copy queens, but later in standard pack I found polchomr king

[wanton lintel]

so balatro?

[latent crescent]

Doc meawhile was doind kings

Also first red seal glass I copied with dna broke immediately

[lunar sluice]

if you have the same seed not getting kings in hand is literally a mistake on your part

[latent crescent]

While doc one's is not

[lunar sluice]

you might not be able to know in advance

but everything you do cascades

[full edge]

Nope, econ is important but there's a different approach to econ in both cases. Just like how gold staking and naninfing are both econ management but in totally different ways

[lunar sluice]

even with the order everything is going to involve a little luck

because what if you just get lucky enough for your opponent to make a mistake

when youre worse than them on average

[ivory sinew]

Crashing with latest Lovely2D, and Steammodded

[latent crescent]

syntax error

[lunar sluice]

the ways you do econ are not different here you just need a lot more of it for naneinf but either way the goal is to get as much money as possible to make getting better cards more likely and theres only a few strategies to do that

[hardy brook]

Orta

[lunar sluice]

golden ticket with gold cards is something you can and might do in a normal run too

because its just a good strategy for getting a lot of money no matter what your goal is

[hardy brook]

yuri

also hello chat

[livid meadow]

Hi

[latent crescent]

In mp was a tactic is feed first rounds just to buy overstock

[wanton lintel]

i play balatro to find the silliest combos (see bulgoe railgun) so i rarely go for the easy ways out (photochad, baromime, etc) so i dunno if id have a damn chance in multiplayer or get slammed into a wall

[lunar sluice]

overstock is good in non multiplayer too

even if you have to ruin your econ for a few rounds

[livid meadow]

In multiplayer my strategy is lose every round then lock in with an insane build and clutch

[wanton lintel]

i think early overstock is just always good

[lunar sluice]

every reroll is 1.5x as powerful

this isnt a multiplayer specific thing

[wanton lintel]

to explian how insane my runs are, while waiting at a mall i made a wee build and the wee reached over 1000 chips

[lunar sluice]

game based around rng has card where seeing more choices is powerful no way

doesnt really matter what gamemode youre in

well voucher technically but vouchers are also cards

[humble saffron]

voucher variance is crazy ngl

[lunar sluice]

some of the vouchers are wild

magic trick is like

barely ever useful imo

[full edge]

I stopped watching multiplayer content a good while back, so maybe that's changed, but it mostly felt to me like there's a limited amount of viable strategies making most matches feel monotonous once you're watching people that know what they're doing

[lunar sluice]

theres a limited amount of strategies no matter what you do to the strategies

[full edge]

eh I guess, maybe me arguing for there being a difference is an indication that I'm bad at gold stake, haha

[lunar sluice]

theres just a limited number of jokers

and only some of those combinations will be the strongest

you always want blueprint because blueprint is just the strongest it makes it pretty boring if you find it because you know everyone will take it

but i dont think multiplayer will ever change blueprint

[cloud cipher]

talisman omeganum optimization moment

[full edge]

yeah but in single player, strategies aren't positioned to compete against another, is my point. A build can be weaker than another but still functional because it will let you clear the ante

[wanton lintel]

the point of balatro is to mess around and find out, just go wild w a random build, see if your messinging around and finding out prevailed

[livid meadow]

The point is wheel of fortune

[lunar sluice]

just win because of wheel of fortune

[normal hollow]

the only good balatro mp is joyousspring mp

[full edge]

yeah that's how i play, but my point is that that's not how people play when it comes to competive multiplayer with ranked leaderboards you'd be trying to climb

[lunar sluice]

idk glass cards are pretty boring but i think they are one of the least boring strategies out of all of the powerful strategies

so idk why glass got changed specifically

atleast with onscoring effects theres more room for doing things slightly differently to squeeze out a little bit more score

[latent crescent]

Because all just played glass no matter what

Easy and reliable

[lunar sluice]

if everyone has the exact same setup its always a draw

[latent crescent]

• old chad

[wanton lintel]

ima climb the leaderboards w the most dastardly build youve ever seen watch me

[lunar sluice]

so its not exactly fully easy

and also

[humble saffron]

i think the meat of multiplayer matches lies in the micro-optimisations a player does
like sure both players want to get polychrome face cards, but one player is going to cycle econ and tarot generation better

[lunar sluice]

new chad doesnt even stop this

just literally

have 2 glass cards

just literally get 2 glass cards

and its the same

[latent crescent]

You need 2 glass cards in a first place, you can obtain 1 glass right before pvp for example with no time to copy

[lunar sluice]

okay so just do it in advance

its not that hard

[full edge]

But my point also isn't that the mp changes are good. I'm ambivalent because my point is that I think there's just inherently an issue with turning a single player luck-based game into a multiplayer luck based game without adapting. Same opinion I have about people trying to play PvP DND games, you know

[latent crescent]

Not always you'll find 2 glass or even draw this 2 glass

Later it doesn't matter yea and you'll do optimization like polychrome, red seal, dna, bp bs etc

[lunar sluice]

you can pretty easily draw 2 specific cards if youre actually tryharding

its not guaranteed if you have 52 cards but like

just get less than 52 cards

there are 1 million different ways to draw almost your entire deck every round

[wanton lintel]

wee flush five build

[humble saffron]

trust me, everyone in mp loves discussing that

[full edge]

oh I'm sure, haha

I doubt I have any hot takes on mp and approaching its design

[humble saffron]

higher stakes curb the issue of like 70% of the scoring jokers being useless past ante 3

[lunar sluice]

tbh maybe im just bad at this game but i dont like higher stakes in singleplayer

i mean most people hate blue stake

so i dont think its a particularly hot take

[humble saffron]

higher stakes are easy

[lunar sluice]

but i think some of the difficulty manifests in a not so fun way

[humble saffron]

just get scaling flat mult

[latent crescent]

Blue stake will be rewokred 100%

[humble saffron]

just get a blue seal

play pairs

[lunar sluice]

just jokerless

then you dont need to care about stickers

[latent crescent]

Restart until perkeo youuuuuuuuuu noob

[lunar sluice]

restart until you get baron mime

[deft ore]

everyone hates on Blue Stake but nobody talks about how much rental sucks earlygame

[wanton lintel]

i play on white stake just because the stuff you can do is so limitedon higher stakes

[latent crescent]

Early rental really sucks but rental by itself is better difficulty scaling than just -1 discard

Because it' versatile

[humble saffron]

red stake is secretly one of the worst stakes and i don't hear enough people talking about it

it's so bad

[deft ore]

Eternals are the only thing good about the stake ladder

[latent crescent]

Buy/sell cost 1 makes rentals unique and actually sometimes useful

[deft ore]

preach

[humble saffron]

-$6 earlygame

[earnest eagle]

Mis mhe mase mame Molly Moker man M Moker?

[humble saffron]

what a great idea

[lunar sluice]

oh yeah red stake is ass

not enough people hate on red stake

[deft ore]

thats part of what makes the rental mechanic awful

[lunar sluice]

red stakes all of the other usually mild difficulty modifiers way more annoying

[hardy brook]

What the…

[lunar sluice]

rentals arent that bad but rentals when you lose that much money start to become really annoying

[latent crescent]

It's only 30% to rental sticker, don't take it too early

[deft ore]

i need scoring you fool

what if all the scoring jokers are rental

[lunar sluice]

"just dont take rentals" when "faster ante scaling" shows up

[wanton lintel]

you're shinku, you're shinku, are there any other shinkus i should know about?!

[humble saffron]

yellow deck being the best deck for streaking is frankly ridiculous imo

[deft ore]

yeah

in a better world yellow deck would be mid

[latent crescent]

When joker costs 8$ and you can buy it for 1$ is viable you know

[wanton lintel]

i really should limit the number of mods i use on a daily

[latent crescent]

1$ bp in ante 2 is huge

[deft ore]

that’ll tank your econ forever

[humble saffron]

like you don't want +1 hand permanently, you don't want checkered's easy flushes, you don't want ghost's free polychome and spectrals

you want +$10 early

lmfao

[latent crescent]

Bp will carry it for you if you'll find econ joker for it

[hardy brook]

Only one true shinku

[deft ore]

mf bp doesn’t copy half the econ jokers

[hallow flame]

my joker collection so far

[latent crescent]

rebate is common you know, youll find it most likely

faceless is common

todo is common

Rocket by itself is powerful so you'll probably take it early on anyway, maybe even rental, not sure

[deft ore]

todo list sucks ass

[glossy carbon]

I dont understand why this is happening

[latent crescent]

Not true at all

[deft ore]

why is your footage in the top left

[woven crag]

check resolution also turn off your mic smh

oh

thats not the issue

nvm

[glossy carbon]

no clue lol

didnt bother using obs and this happened

[woven crag]

but cryptid is fucking with talisman scoring limits rn for some reason

[deft ore]

if it doesn’t land on high card or pair you MIGHT get 4 bucks

[glossy carbon]

i have saturn but it is disabled

could that be the issue?

[woven crag]

straight flush > four of a kind > straight flush > four of a kind > full house (maybe if youre lucky)

no

i literally said

its cryptid

breaking talisman scoring limits

[deft ore]

beat me to it

[glossy carbon]

ah

[woven crag]

so like

[latent crescent]

skill issue

[woven crag]

it should be fixed in the next cryptid release i think?

[earnest eagle]

Wayland detected

[deft ore]

don’t play cryptid ig

[woven crag]

okay smart guy lets see you take a crack at it

[deft ore]

You try playing that on a Two Pair build then

[frigid mica]

What do you think about the 5th deck?

[glossy carbon]

nvm reinstalled talisman and cryptid and it works well

[dry kettle]

I wanna play some vanilla. Is there any way launch balatro without mods? I don't wanna turn off every single mod

[woven crag]

yes its turning off/uninstalling all your mods

[glad oracle]

Guys why cant i install balatro multiplayer in balatro mod manager

[dry kettle]

Okay, is there otherway?

[woven crag]

i dont think so

maybe try removing version.dll from your balatro folder

because its related to lovely injector

but idk if that would change anything

[woven crag]

do an internet speed test

[wind token]

either, i can spend an hour painting weights for this mod im making, or i can go enjoy my self

[random storm]

Get someone to do the weights for you and spend that time enjoying yourself :3

[wind token]

if i got someone to do that, id need to pay them and guess whos broke

[glad oracle]

It was 10Mbps download and 3Mbps upload

[woven crag]

uhhhh what error do you get when downloading

[glad oracle]

Its say invalid file

Like this

[meager gale]

sprite is done (i suck at this drawing thing i know)

[dry kettle]

Wtf, i began deleting mods and now...some of them putting G-MOD background. Does anyone have an idea, which mod this is?

[meager gale]

show all the mods

[deft ore]

tangents

[dry kettle]

Tangents is off

hmm

[deft ore]

Download the installer from the website

[deft ore]

you sure

[dry kettle]

Yea

[glad oracle]

Does it need lovely injector?

[woven crag]

yes everything does???

[deft ore]

yes

everything does

[dry kettle]

Hard to explain this in english, but sometimes i see that some mods probably work even when they off

[glad oracle]

I use balatro mod manager

[woven crag]

yeah

and?

how does that change anything

[glad oracle]

NVM

[deft ore]

remove tangents from the folder

[deft ore]

they don’t know what lovely is they use bmm

hi astra

[exotic belfry]

Lovely injections always happen, even if a mod is disabled. nxkoo should prolly add a custom menu toggle option lol

[deft ore]

doesn’t smods generate a lovelyignore file now

[exotic belfry]

It should

[normal hollow]

if it's disabled through the mod menu it should be completely disabled

if it has a conflict or missing dependencies it will not

[hard plank]

what

[lunar sluice]

this is old and it doesnt happen anymore but i will show this again

"but it refused"

[woven crag]

i mean you can always just get this image because thats what it looks like before you exit the mod menu after disabling a mod

[lunar sluice]

this is

after reloading

[woven crag]

but also how

[deft ore]

so it’s an “update smods” issue

[woven crag]

how does that happen

[lunar sluice]

cryptid provides cryptlib
entropy requires cryptlib
disable cryptid and cryptlib

then this used to happen

[wind token]

Is rainworld a good game?

[cyan cedar]

@spiral oxide i know a guy

[wanton lintel]

"The BALATRO mod was filled with DETERMINATION"

[wanton lintel]

hell yeah

[cyan cedar]

it’s a little tedious and i never got around to finishing it but it seems pretty worth it

[lunar sluice]

its pretty fun but im too ass at the game to finish it

[formal orchid]

^

[wide mulch]

JOKER FORGE MENTIONED WHAT IS CLEAN CODE RAAAA 🔥

fire art too

[wanton lintel]

i just fuck around with mods (ie using mouse drag to throw saint around)

saint is my favorite slugcat bc it just mlems

[full edge]

huh I only realized just now that the spells no longer appear in the collection. Wonder why that code no longer runs

[meager gale]

this is what it does:

[wanton lintel]

should i update lyrezhellhole or work more on analog

[meager gale]

i forgot to put the "mult" and "chips" after the x's im dumb as shit

[smoky peak]

JSBDJSBJDJSJ

peak

[meager gale]

thx

[frigid mica]

Ok so the 14th joker should work like Ceremonial Dagger in a way.

Or any dagger

How about a dagger joker that replaces the joker to the left with a random non-common, non-uncommon joker?

[meager gale]

wouldnt that be just rare/legendary?

[frigid mica]

I mean it’s a fantastic joker

And this is for busted buffoons

If you can think of an ability just as equally broken, I’ll be impressed.

I’m making 15 rare jokers and 15 fantastic jokers

[hallow flame]

thoinks

[cloud cipher]

yaey

[woven crag]

like some king of poultry

[cloud cipher]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XP08sFYq4SbVzR_98WPUdSQaXw_39HqNRrKTDSfpGRc/edit?tab=t.5iscsgj1buqv

[cloud cipher]

ok so turns out adding rarities to consumables requires ancient rituals

[unkempt current]

Always liked the idea of token cards, only problem they were on that too unbalanced mod

[hardy brook]

Poltereference

[cloud cipher]

nevermind figured it out thanks autumnmoodmechanics

[cloud cipher]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XP08sFYq4SbVzR_98WPUdSQaXw_39HqNRrKTDSfpGRc/edit?tab=t.k5lf3i9ubt8t#heading=h.pwq344r9oxs

[lunar sluice]

rarities on consumables is only a little bit of black magic

[hard plank]

poultryworks

[lunar sluice]

its mostly just badges and then some form of weight system

[hardy brook]

I was gonna make my own variant that were actually cards, but never got to it because of the fact i couldn’t group my ranks together still

And couldn’t keep them from changing suit

[cloud cipher]

im still worried if this is morally right considering jens policy on almanac (DONT YOU DARE EVER SHARE IT I WILL MURDER YOU)

[lunar sluice]

tokens would be cool as a way to see tags more often without having to skip

however

they should be in their own mod

with no other content

probably

[ocean vapor]

Hey chat :3

[lunar sluice]

like partners in a sense

imagine how much it would suck if partners were part of an existing content mod

[hard plank]

hi

I've been feeling sleepy lately

[unkempt current]

What if you rename them

[lunar sluice]

also if it happens and i add entropy compat

[cloud cipher]

Correct

[lunar sluice]

it would be the first ever consumable set

to have like

100 hidden consumables

[cloud cipher]

To what

[lunar sluice]

since ascended tags would all be hidden consumables

[unkempt current]

uhhh

I

Dunno

[stark shale]

close enough welcome back a part of Defunct Mod Formerly Known as Jen's Almanac

[lunar sluice]

chess deck

[cloud cipher]

Oh yeah chess catds

[wanton rapids]

battle deck

[lunar sluice]

battle against a true deck

[stark shale]

oh yes.... chess deck

[wanton rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1231518402208731146 my beloved

[stark shale]

but what if... connect 4 deck

[lunar sluice]

balatro deck

[cloud cipher]

Are chess cards good enough to become a Poltergeist® mod

[lunar sluice]

chess cards were stolen werent they

[wanton rapids]

they were, you can even see his message in the thread actually

[wanton rapids]

this one

[cloud cipher]

oh.

Well now im worried that 90% of poltergeist is stolen

[wanton rapids]

stolen or traced

[cloud cipher]

I didn't know it was THAT bad

[worn dagger]

I love breaking cryptid

[ivory sinew]

Tracer

[stark shale]

have someone added Poltergeist's totally original UNO cards (I've seen 2 mods do Suit/Rank Level up respectively)

[woven crag]

poultygeist

[stark shale]

(also is Suit/Rank Level a smod feature now, I'm old!)

[lunar sluice]

you should play entropy it has suit levelling

[cloud cipher]

Mayhem will have gemstones but they're so much better and more complex

[woven crag]

i mean tbf suit leveling is FAR from an original idea

[sweet bramble]

potted mice

[woven crag]

like so many mods do that

[stark shale]

you should play #1377387726294355998 it had rank leveling

[hard plank]

excuse me???

[wanton rapids]

oh actually

[woven crag]

it isnt you still need to do like stuff i think

[wanton rapids]

oh i misread oops

[lunar sluice]

fraud versions of suit tarots

level up suits by some amount of chips

[woven crag]

v1 i remember youre frauds

[lunar sluice]

iirc +10

[cloud cipher]

Ok so which of these in poltercrap is stolen before i actually make the mods

• Tokens
• Torats (the concept, 90% sure the art is stolen)
• Hand Cards

[lunar sluice]

human i remember youre pi/4 radian rotated fraud cards

[stark shale]

ruby have you checked the hit mod called #1377387726294355998

[lunar sluice]

i dont play mods really

i should

[stark shale]

💥

[formal orchid]

i only playtest my mod

[wanton rapids]

idk if tokens were stolen but they're a very generic concept

reverse tarots are also a very generic concept

[lunar sluice]

tokens are an idea you can easily remake

[wanton rapids]

i think pta does this already actually

[lunar sluice]

also torats was just the art

[hard plank]

umbral tarot

[lunar sluice]

i love fraud cards

[cloud cipher]

I mean the effects (crazy ridiculous version of the base effect with massive downside)

[stark shale]

do you think a non balatro player would pass out from seeing this

[normal hollow]

no

[cloud cipher]

Reworked Torats will be Shadow Cards® anyways

[wanton rapids]

no

[hard plank]

i love my umbral cards

[woven crag]

i think tokens would be more interesting if the point wasnt literally just creating tags but instead having effects derived from tags

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

shadow tarot

like

[lunar sluice]

tokens are cool because tags are awesome but accessing them is basically always a bad decision

[hard plank]

umbral cards

[cloud cipher]

man

[woven crag]

i do think creating tags is cool

tokens are just a bit simple tho

[main path]

me when myth cards are already in the prism mod and i have to think of something else thats thematically appropriate or else im unoriginal

[hard plank]

I'm unoriginal lol

[lunar sluice]

one day i will play a bunch of mods

[wanton rapids]

one day i will play mods

[lunar sluice]

send me mods to play

[hard plank]

technically i really just

copied major arcana but inverted it theme wise

[cloud cipher]

Ok so do i have to thematically rework Shadow Cards®

[hard plank]

the theming was modern day and more science like

instead of you know

[main path]

aint no way man
i know i could just change the key of my consumable type but

[hard plank]

amazing

[cloud cipher]

It's almost like copying things from an unoriginal mod that copied things is a bad idea

[wide mulch]

god i wish i could draw

[main path]

funny thing is that they have a kind of similar ish color palette

[wide mulch]

so pretty

[hard plank]

chat

[main path]

only the top left two are mine lol

[formal orchid]

are they still merged with prism's myth cards 😭

[ivory sinew]

Omega cards were the shit

[hard plank]

what is omega cards

[woven crag]

omega cards are a cool concept but the execution was kinda ehhhh

[main path]

yeah
im debating between just changing the key or making the theme more specific
the whole idea behind the consumable type is that they were supposed to be mythical items that were sought after by many

[formal orchid]

just change the key imo

or keep it like this

its funny

[cloud cipher]

Good thing mayhem will have 5 tiers of them

[main path]

wait does my mod's myth items show up in prism's myth packs?

that would be funny

[formal orchid]

probably

[main path]

unintentional crossmod

[formal orchid]

lol

[plush hound]

hey guys

[hard plank]

no

[main path]

i am trying to make animations that can play on screen like yahimod 💀

[woven crag]

so i haveth a laser pointere

[jaunty galleon]

i think this is a banger idea

number is currently 3

[hard plank]

@woven orchid i think you will appreciate this

[plush hound]

you should connect your commits to the hotpot server

[hard plank]

i forgot to push it so there it is