⚙・modding-general

[fair thistle]

AUTUMN WHAT THE FUCK

[sleek granite]

double witch of mind

[fair thistle]

😭

[fair thistle]

oooooo its gud

except that i got a -nan ???

[harsh glacier]

-nan is so funny

[grand geode]

skill issue tbh

[fair thistle]

yknow what i think this is extremely stupid

[sleek granite]

i have never seen -nan before good job

[sleek granite]

did something of mine trigger to set it to that? :?

[harsh glacier]

-nan only happens when both your chips and mult are naneinf iirc

[fair thistle]

wdym good job ??? i have exponentia and membership card

i thought -65^2 is just

65^2?

[harsh glacier]

your first mistake is having cryptid

[sleek granite]

oh you just cryptid'd so hard you cryptid'd

[torn urchin]

Agreed

[fair thistle]

well why is there a boss blind that just removes a gargantuan amount of flatmult ...

[sleek granite]

yeah i got no idea

i only add one blind so you're up the wrong 🎄

[fair thistle]

it was Bakery

ive banned it now

oh no...

[sleek granite]

YES THE TRUE POWER OF BLUEPRINT STAMP
ERS RISE UP

but also i think polychrome discord card^2 wins

[wanton rapids]

is this umamusume or whatever it's called

[harsh glacier]

yeah

[sleek granite]

retriggers? nah we rescoring

[harsh glacier]

literally all it does is make the game fast

[dreamy abyss]

speed of lobsters

[harsh glacier]

😭

[wanton rapids]

why is negative +2

you should make it hook love update and double the dt

[harsh glacier]

true

[sleek granite]

multiply dt by os.time

[wanton rapids]

neat

[fair thistle]

AND i found peak

[sleek granite]

every time i do something else for a while and rediscover the stupid deltarune asmr in balatro-ub i always wind up fidgeting with the dumb deltarune cards forever

[fair thistle]

this isnt what i get for playing cryptid its what i get for playing wormhole deck

[frigid mica]

Hmm

[frigid mica]

Duplicare has a cousin?

[fair thistle]

aw fuckkkk

[sleek granite]

holy shit how many of me do you have

[fair thistle]

yeah except its just jokers and not based on their scoring

[fair thistle]

i found cotton candy but my game crashed

stupid fragile edition being buggy

I'm still more peak because you get me more often

[sleek granite]

yeah looks like its probably something on cryptids side

[frigid mica]

Does this fit the theme of phobaphobia?

[sleek granite]

theres three legendaries that are me and also a rare

dont think about it too hard

[fair thistle]

im gonna continue playing more balanced cryptid for the time being since it knocks out the strategies of oil lamping to hell and a lot of other stuff

the only thing i dislike about it is that it switches the functionality of nostalgic and normal googol play card

(as in, nostalgic gives xmult and normal gives joker copies)

[frigid mica]

Hello?

[wanton rapids]

are any of them bub

[sleek granite]

no

[wanton rapids]

okay if they were that would be an Accurate Adaptation but it's probably fine

[fair thistle]

jeeez sure

[wanton rapids]

oh are they like different classpects or whatever

[sleek granite]

mhm

literally self insert x3 combob

the joke is that it is stupid

[amber river]

Jump inside, we've got a sad game ending to attend to

[frigid mica]

What’s your input

[amber river]

Also i love it

[frigid mica]

Should we add borders?

[amber river]

Yesss

I'm thinking fragile, glass?

[main girder]

Baby steps (coding is pain :3)
Placeholder effect ofc

[amber river]

Not literal glass but yk something easy fo break

[main girder]

I might dump joker concepts in here occasionally

and come begging for code help alot

[wanton rapids]

oh you get the low fps bounce awesome

[main girder]

Because I can't find any good yt tutorials
Like this is the extent of the only tutorial I could find :3

I'm just not realizing I accidently gave her the trans color pallet
Oops :3

[sleek granite]

congratulations welcome to game mak

[main girder]

Yes

Now how do I make it summon 5839593e1289^284944295 negative barons/j

[exotic belfry]

If you're looking for code help then #💻・modding-dev will be a great resource to ask in

[sleek granite]

hi astra

[exotic belfry]

hi autumn

[teal sky]

meoww

[exotic belfry]

hi corobo

[teal sky]

hiii

[sleek granite]

james..........

[exotic belfry]

James...

Just drafted the 1.1 github release. Basically just on SMODS to push the update now

[harsh glacier]

he kinda look like nostalgia critic

[teal sky]

oooo

[exotic belfry]

???????? no???????????

[sleek granite]

-# i gave him yugioh properties

[main girder]

Eerily similar to one of my concepts from today-

[exotic belfry]

He is definitely a Warrior

[main girder]

Except +3 mult +3 chip
it doesn't check editions
And stone cards count

[exotic belfry]

That seems a bit arbitrary but go off

[main girder]

Thanks, it wasn't in my list by default

[exotic belfry]

wonky

[main girder]

Discord moment

[exotic belfry]

forreal

[sleek granite]

i love maximus

:3

[exotic belfry]

I'm very excited for people to dig into the cardsleeves

[sleek granite]

hell yeah

[exotic belfry]

That's def the biggest thing coming with 1.1

[teal sky]

oooo

[amber river]

d

[sleek granite]

wow i have 82 mxms jokers in this joyousspring-inator list

[teal sky]

I'm debating in my head rn if I should just give up on the UI fanciness for my mod and just release it or not

[exotic belfry]

oh dayum

That's over half

[sleek granite]

granted... not all of them actually work ^^"

[teal sky]

ooooo

[sleek granite]

any that use config.extra as a non-table are incompatible

and i also ran into a weird issue only with maximus jokers where some of them would ONLY accept being DARK/Warrior no matter what i put but i have no idea on that one

[main girder]

Is card sleeves a cosmetic thing for 1.1?

assuming this isn't some mod thing, oops

[exotic belfry]

No, cardsleeves is an API mod

[main girder]

Oops :3

[exotic belfry]

I should do a formatting pass I think

[sleek granite]

tis a slly jouurney

im up to page 110/126 in my collection... so close.....

[fair thistle]

the third one doesnt count i fucked up cuz of lag

[hard plank]

astra

[harsh glacier]

so joyous

[sleek granite]

joyous...

[amber river]

Wrathfulfall

[fair thistle]

Depressedwinter

i turned myself into a tetration joker jimbo. im tetration joker astro!!!

[wanton rapids]

a fate comparable but not worse than death

[hard plank]

the joy

[wanton rapids]

oh neat

[hard plank]

where is iroyokia

[fair thistle]

holy shit

peak gradients

(I hate using discord on mobile because the singular small images look way larger to me than it does to me on pc

[deft ore]

hi chat

[latent crescent]

[deft ore]

paradox ideas balance update coming straight to your house sunday

[harsh glacier]

hmm

[deft ore]

does this work if it's external destruction (ankh, madness, hex, dagger) or only if it destroys itself

[harsh glacier]

if it destroys itself

[deft ore]

damn

no cool ghost deck black stake synergies

[harsh glacier]

kinda

if the joker is marked as being under the food pool then it does prevent destruction via other means

otherwise it just checks if its being pinched to see if it got destroyed that way

[deft ore]

wdym being pinched

[harsh glacier]

yknow how food jokers fold themselves when they self destruct

that

[deft ore]

ohhhh

[deft ore]

didn't know you could check for that

neat

[fair thistle]

time to make a joker that pinches other jokers

[grand geode]

mfw magical girls are classified as food because they're pinched

[harsh glacier]

give me their unique indentifier so i can exclude that then

like what counts as that

[fair thistle]

Are they under the food pool ?!

[fair thistle]

Otherwise they're probably half food

[fair thistle]

turns into a food joker that doesn't pinch, yummers

[tranquil vessel]

Brb gonna eat some magical girls

Oh shit sorry for the ping

[harsh glacier]

myst is gonna kill you

[tranquil vessel]

She hasnt yet and I've done worse so

[grand geode]

they didnt ping

[tranquil vessel]

Oh I muscle memory disabled it

Nice

[frigid mica]

What, like a shattered screen?

Like…

A mirror?

[deft ore]

whats a good upside for a joker that makes glass cards break every time

[gentle forge]

Idk if this is the right channel to ask about this, but how do I pick colors for high contrast card skins? Like for spades for example, do all of the colors need to be purple and gold?

[fair thistle]

Maybe makes other cards glass, maybe a way for them to NOT break (would go against the word every though), maybe Gains something, maybe gives something

[charred pebble]

nuilding you decj

[fair thistle]

wh

[whole nova]

ralsei

[fair thistle]

nuilding

[deft ore]

rouxls

[fair thistle]

Guyse

Gayse

[gentle forge]

So I haveth a laser pointere

[deft ore]

you're taking his lines

[fair thistle]

I don't feel like making evil red astro I think 3 is already too much

YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

[deft ore]

next you're going to take his lovers

[fair thistle]

wild card ?

[deft ore]

Rouxls owns no suits

[fair thistle]

The Lovers and it's his THRRROUPLE

[deft ore]

Lanino and Elnina's suits aren't also his though

[fair thistle]

fair

but it's funny

and it's eeffoc

[whole nova]

after i do berdly i lowkey think a ralsei cosplay could be fun however my father is the one who takes me to conventions and i could not wear that in front of him without wanting to die

[fair thistle]

robot cat, Alien robot cat, evil genderbent (probably lesbian) robot cat, what's next

[deft ore]

robot dog

[fair thistle]

no

[dreamy abyss]

if i were to cosplay any character without any regard for money or material constraints i think i would cosplay as... a ho-oh or something, idk

[granite sundial]

what do you guys use to mod?

[plush hound]

good enough

[dapper stone]

I have some cool combo and we'll balanced ideas for jokers and spectral cards. If some Wana add them to there mod then I can share these ideas (don't need any credits or something). Just let me play these ideas once they finished.

[deft ore]

steamodded

[granite sundial]

i mean to develop mods

[fair thistle]

hampter

[deft ore]

personally i use vscode

[plush hound]

hampter

[deft ore]

what does the joker on the left do

[fair thistle]

Nxkoo [hampter]s tomorrow

[deft ore]

context.nxkoo_has_hampter

[whole nova]

it's pretty fun

[deft ore]

if i buy him ten times does he become negative

[whole nova]

this year i'm planning to do light world berdly as a cosplay for comic-con but maybe when i'm like an adult and no longer have shame ralsei would be really fun

[fair thistle]

call me cinnamon toast crunch, changes the joker's name to cinnamon toast crunch

[plush hound]

:smile

[torn urchin]

Anotha one

[quick lintel]

Is this not broken

[plush hound]

whats your critic

[torn urchin]

Bros hungry

[fair thistle]

if context.nxkoo_turns_into_cat then

[plush hound]

jokes aside, i could not get dj khaled working whatsoever

[torn urchin]

Well I mean

On brand

[fair thistle]

o

does having 5 khaleds change the ante to 0

?

[plush hound]

i mean, it adds 5 joker slots

after 1 ante

[fair thistle]

o

[sleek granite]

rock

[fair thistle]

does so much nothing that it takes up -4 joker slots (functionally)

[whole nova]

however the problem arises that berdly's base outfit just looks like your average cosplayless loser at comiccon so i think i'm gonna like wear a blue longsleeve underneath or yellow socks because that's really funny

[plush hound]

become a bird

[sleek granite]

(chat i made it through all my jokers)

[whole nova]

i saw a really nice custom starwalker keychain for $20 that could go in the breast pocket

[torn urchin]

Yum

[fair thistle]

starwalker cosplay and it's just yellow facepaint

[deft ore]

if baron was WOKE

[deft ore]

you just stand around and get pissed

[fair thistle]

dude
imagine like a
big inflatable starwalker costume

like those dinosaur costumes

[sleek granite]

i have now pored over ~1500 jokers in the past 24 hours to apply joyousspring attributes and types to them

[deft ore]

inexplicably everywhere despite never moving

[fair thistle]

but starwalker

[plush hound]

fucking look at him

[fair thistle]

tenna jumpscare in balatro

[deft ore]

you can't get him from an egg

what does he do

[whole nova]

problem with ralsei cosplay would be i have to like actually sew or like put effort into something

[deft ore]

pearto

[sleek granite]

and everyone knows you cant afford that with such a busy GAMER schedule

[umbral pilot]

cosplay as pearto

[torn urchin]

You called

[whole nova]

im just lazy and its daunting lol

[sleek granite]

thank you john lovely for letting me make one 956 line patch that applies joyousspring properties to jokers from a variety of mods

[fair thistle]

I think card would be funnier if it was just like a blank joker with no text since it gives 1 chip

[plush hound]

just cosplay as gaster and hide from the public

[umbral pilot]

dude

[plush hound]

is that your joker, mr lovely

[fair thistle]

because I just realized with multiple cards showing up (which you're kinda supposed to do kinda) a crumpled card doesn't look so good next to itself

[latent crescent]

[sleek granite]

it only took me 14 hours

[deft ore]

the thing about card is it has literally no reason to exist except that it's marginally funny

[fair thistle]

fair

[harsh glacier]

more food joker stuff i had to tweak existing code to make this work for mid calculation removals and cards that detach from their area before dying lmao

[whole nova]

nooo

that ruins the fun

[sleek granite]

95% of programming is just realizing "hey i could do this thing" and then sitting down and doing it

[fair thistle]

nft feels like a joker that was made only to waste your money but ended up being so fucked up that it went around and became the Free 500 Dollars Card

[deft ore]

you'd be correct

i haven't done a single run where nft HASN'T shown up as the Free 500 Dollars Card

[fair thistle]

Except for when it clogs your shop slots

[deft ore]

if i knew how to ban it from booster packs i would

[fair thistle]

Like a b*tch

[deft ore]

i feel like the mod would be better if i got rid of it but also i do want to dunk on nfts

[fair thistle]

Make it rarer but make it a lot cheaper ?

50 dollars but it drops like 6.25 in sell value or something

Destroyed on 0

[dense quail]

i want to find the base game code for the Burglar joker but i cant find it kugyiuygkhugfasf

[deft ore]

if i make it cheaper it ruins the joke

[fair thistle]

Nah not destroyed on 0

[deft ore]

why

[fair thistle]

Err you're right

[dense quail]

im learning and makin a joker that gives +2 hands when held and i wanna see how burglar does it

[fair thistle]

50 dollars is the price of an exotic jokers though and maybe it would come out to be a clean 100

[plush hound]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/975e35dce07617c7a9db01ce032152b07e4f0f2f/src/jokers.lua#L1173C1-L1173C13

[deft ore]

use vanillaremade

[dense quail]

ok

[torn urchin]

The goat

[fair thistle]

i wish that banning a rarity would equal that rarity itself being banned

[deft ore]

dont look at basegame code its not good practice for smods

[whole nova]

actually it's okay to look at basegame code

don't look at basegame item code

[fair thistle]

I'm gonna draw tower because there's 2 even though it says there's 1 in the name

[sleek granite]

dont look at the sun

[deft ore]

burglar is not your best resource for this tho, maybe drunkard instead and switch out discards for hands

[wanton rapids]

thank you for reminding me

[torn urchin]

Don't look at za warudo

[fair thistle]

I think some of your food jokers would benefit from having a different background color or softer background contrast

[dense quail]

is d_size the amount of discards?

[torn urchin]

Food

[deft ore]

i'm not a good pixel artist

[fair thistle]

or white outlines

[fair thistle]

gotcha

[deft ore]

where are you seeing this

send screenshot on mobile

[dense quail]

config = { extra = { d_size = 1}}

something like that

[plush hound]

a gay theory

[dense quail]

ok

[deft ore]

thats where it stores the values for what it does

[dense quail]

i know yeah

[deft ore]

check add_to_deck

[dense quail]

uhm

okay

[deft ore]

config is just a bunch of variables

[dense quail]

add_to_deck is basically just if you have the joker in your joker slot right?

and remove_from_deck is when it is removed

[deft ore]

add to deck happens when you get the joker

[deft ore]

yes

[dense quail]

yeah okay yeah

[gentle forge]

I'm using the SMODS deck skin template, how do I make the game use the default suit icon?

[dense quail]

so if i have config = { extra = { hands = 2 } }

uhm

and then when i do

[deft ore]

send screenshot of burglar calculate function

[dense quail]

im using drunkard as an example

but iull send that

[deft ore]

yes thats good

i need burgular cause it has the hand part tho

[dense quail]

oh okay

[deft ore]

wait no

actually go to vouchers.lua

send me grabber

[dense quail]

garbber?

ok

[deft ore]

so in add_to_deck put the stuff from grabber redeem in

the hands will be the right amount cause of the config

[dense quail]

but then id still need remove_from_deck

[deft ore]

in remove_from_deck do the same but make both appearances of card.ability.extra.hands negative instead of positive

[fair thistle]

hey paradox look

[deft ore]

oooh

[fair thistle]

maybe I should center it lmao

[dense quail]

what should i put in the function(...)?

[deft ore]

srry wdym by that

[dense quail]

loc_vars = function(...)

what should go in between the ( )

[deft ore]

oh

[dense quail]

just self, info_queue, card?

[deft ore]

yeah

[dense quail]

oki

[deft ore]

do you know how loc vars works

[dense quail]

not really

im REALLY uneducated

[deft ore]

i don't remember the exact stuff so here's what you're going to do

steal the entire loc vars function from burglar

that should work

[dense quail]

ok

[deft ore]

oh before i forget

do you know descriptions

[dense quail]

i know names, descriptions, sellf value and all that

i have the card in game

[deft ore]

okay perfect

[dense quail]

it just does nothing yet

[deft ore]

can i see the loc_txt rq

[dense quail]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card) return { vars = { card.ability.extra.hands } } end,

[dense quail]

oke

[deft ore]

yeah that should work

[dense quail]

loc_txt = { ['name'] = 'The Sad Onion', ['text'] = { [1] = '+2 {C:blue}hands{}'

[deft ore]

remove the [1] = pls

[dense quail]

and then i close the {}

[deft ore]

it works but is unnecessary

[dense quail]

oh okay

[deft ore]

also replace the 2 with #1#

[dense quail]

loc_txt = { ['name'] = 'The Sad Onion', ['text'] = { '+#1# {C:blue}hands{}' } },

[deft ore]

what that does is call the first thing in loc vars (so the hands)

[deft ore]

perfect

[dense quail]

[deft ore]

with all the changes i said it should just work

[dense quail]

i have to do the calculate still

and the loc_vars

one sec

[deft ore]

no you dont

[dense quail]

oh?

is only loc_vars needed?

[deft ore]

for this joker calculate isnt needed

[dense quail]

okay

[deft ore]

you still need the add to deck and remove from deck

[dense quail]

ohhh yeah that was what was needed

i was confused for a sec

[deft ore]

but because all the effects are handled when the jokers added and removed no calculate is needed

[dense quail]

yeah okay i get it

thanks

[deft ore]

calculates for stuff when you already have it

[dense quail]

what does this intale

ease_discard(card.ability.extra.d_size)

[deft ore]

this increases your discards visually by the card's d_size value

[dense quail]

ohh okay

[deft ore]

the actual gameplay increase is done somewhere else tho

[dense quail]

but then replace discard with hand

[deft ore]

yes

[dense quail]

okayyy

[deft ore]

and replace d_size with hands (cause thats what you named the variable in config)

[latent crescent]

crazy

[dense quail]

yes

okay

would this work?

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card) return { vars = { card.ability.extra.hands } } end, add_to_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff) G.GAME.round_resets.hands = G.GAME.round_resets.hands + card.ability.extra.hands ease.hand(-card.ability.extra.hands) end, remove_from_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff) G.GAME.round_resets.hands = G.GAME.round_resets.hands - card.ability.extra.hands ease.hand(-card.ability.extra.hands) end,

[deft ore]

almost

ease.hand should be ease_hands

[dense quail]

ohh okay

[wind turtle]

No, it's ease_hands_played

[deft ore]

and the first appearance of it (in add to deck) card.ability.extra.hands should be positive

[dense quail]

oh okay

[deft ore]

yeah its this actually i forgor

[dense quail]

is positive with a + or just nothing

[deft ore]

nothing

[dense quail]

okay

and ease_hands should be different

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card) return { vars = { card.ability.extra.hands } } end, add_to_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff) G.GAME.round_resets.hands = G.GAME.round_resets.hands + card.ability.extra.hands ease_hands_played(card.ability.extra.hands) end, remove_from_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff) G.GAME.round_resets.hands = G.GAME.round_resets.hands - card.ability.extra.hands ease_hands_played(-card.ability.extra.hands) end, }

[deft ore]

yeah its ease_hands_played (as something said)

[deft ore]

perfect

[dense quail]

yay

im gonna test it

[deft ore]

and the neat part about using the config is you can change the number 2 in the config to be anything and your description and effect will update accordingly

[fair thistle]

palmiers but cooler

maybe I should add vertical lines lol

[dense quail]

it works!!!

i just made my first joker (manually)!!

kinda

[deft ore]

feels better with just horizontal lines

[fair thistle]

oh ok !

[deft ore]

thats how i imagine cooling rack

[deft ore]

congrats!

[fair thistle]

3 paradox jokers glown up

[dense quail]

and i just got -1 hands lol

[deft ore]

wait does it still give the right amount of hands when added

[dense quail]

yeah

i just did a glitch

[deft ore]

hm

[fair thistle]

Orange card and Yellow Card don't scale that fast at all and take a lot of money to get online if you get it early

[dense quail]

4 hands > 6 hands, then play 4 hands so you have 2 left, sell the joker. now you have 0 hands and when you play a hand you have -1

[fair thistle]

anything below 1 hand is functionally 1 hand

[dense quail]

i know but its funny

[fair thistle]

It's eeffoc

[dense quail]

which is funny

[deft ore]

thats fair

actually yellow card as a whole kinda sucks

[fair thistle]

They're DEFINITELY common rn

orange might be XMult but it takes like 10 rounds and 40 dollars in total to get online

to x2

does pineapple just like str8 up kill you

[deft ore]

i feel like id rather buff orange card

[deft ore]

yes

isat ref

[fair thistle]

does that mean it's impossible to gold sticker

with it

[deft ore]

shit maybe

do gold stickers count on debuffed jokers

[fair thistle]

oh yeah right

[deft ore]

wait nvm how tf would you debuff it

[fair thistle]

technically does but would take a lot of luck

[deft ore]

not perishable and crimson heart cant either

[fair thistle]

make a joker that debuffs jokers for upsides

[deft ore]

cause its undebuffed before kill

[fair thistle]

huh I thought it debuffs one when you enter

[deft ore]

this is what i call game design

[deft ore]

no pineapple kills end of round

[fair thistle]

oh

Waaait end of round doesn't trigger on debuffs I think hold on lemme see

[hard plank]

：３

[deft ore]

:3

[fair thistle]

aikoyori please dont crucify me for fixing a mistake on my mfkastro /j

[fair thistle]

its debuffed

it does work

[deft ore]

perfect

[fair thistle]

imagine being forced to do this omg

[deft ore]

1 in 25 chance assuming a build that can oneshot with no directors cut and 1 hand

[fair thistle]

you have to roll into crimson heart, oneshot the blind, and have the 1 in 5 chance if youre sporting 4 other jokers

[deft ore]

this is the use case for artistic honestly

maybe even chasm

pack it as your only joker

with antimatter

[fair thistle]

i mean the 15x negative chance doesnt really do you much favor when the only time youre gonna have like anything is as you said, antimatter

honestly does 10 hand size really help you that much when basically if you want to sport pineapple at the end youre either gonna have to get dumb lucky with a negative or face basically jokerless without the pineapple

and taking negative jokers for that would also be bad because it would mean its down to chance

and considering gold stake alone has final blinds that are around 400k requirements, youd need like only glass cards in your hand with red seals

[deft ore]

not really tbh

[fair thistle]

and like a ton of planet cards

[deft ore]

that being said i'm kinda resistant to any changes to artistic or chasm cause it ruins the bit

[fair thistle]

so not only do you have to do gold stake jokerless for the pineapple gold sticker, you cant even take the negatives

which leaves you to have to do a Dr. Spectred and play with the jokers spawning

and not only that, you'd have to get a pineapple at the very last round of the run

which means youd need more money, tons of planet cards, and even then, depending on your amount of mods, getting crimson heart is pretty goddamn hard

[deft ore]

you have three shops tho cause you can skip blinds

[fair thistle]

fair, fair

[deft ore]

oh actually

what are common allergy symptoms that i could put in balatro

[fair thistle]

still, this could probably be classified as an impossible to gold sticker joker, and even then, its a whole ass hellhole in of itself to get

[fair thistle]

peanuts

dihydrogen monoxide /j

[deft ore]

ah yes i'm suffering from peanuts and runny nose because of my allergy

[dense quail]

air

[fair thistle]

AHAHAHA fuck

[deft ore]

earth

[dreamy abyss]

death

[fair thistle]

runny nose

[deft ore]

i did death it sucks

thats been the conversation

[deft ore]

how does that translate though

[fair thistle]

i like how the joker text is like lower than the bars on this image

[fair thistle]

jimbo

but sick

[deft ore]

do i put snot on the screen

[fair thistle]

he sickens unenhanced cards idk

[fair thistle]

you should make a badge for gold stickering pineapple

[deft ore]

i kinda don't want to encourage ppl to do that tho

[drowsy parrot]

if i were to bug report smods stuff where would i send

[fair thistle]

(though if you want that to stay in difficulty youre gonna have to not have alterior ways of debuffing cards ((i know, jokers debuffing each other is peak game design /j)))

[fair thistle]

faaaiiirr

[deft ore]

the more i talk about this mod the more i realize how profoundly awful it is

coming never probably: paradox's slightly better ideas

[fair thistle]

awful
need of a slight rework

[deft ore]

smods github probably

[wind turtle]

Probably the SMODS discord.

[deft ore]

slight is maybe an understatement

[fair thistle]

okay fine

probably an art and balance rework entirely which is kinda your plan rite?

[deft ore]

yeah

[drowsy parrot]

thats awesome
where would i find the discord

[fair thistle]

maybe pineapples could just debuff itself instead of instakilling you (terrible)

[wind turtle]

https://discord.gg/6AscZsMENC

[deft ore]

i think eventually i'll end of ship of theseusing the mod somehow

not on purposr

[fair thistle]

cuz youre still allergic to it in a sense since yknow you cant use it

[drowsy parrot]

winner, thanks king

[deft ore]

what if i just made it sicken you in real life instead

does that count as a buff or a nerf

[fair thistle]

turns the screen black like in celeste 2dark

/j

[fair thistle]

buff because you dont lose

[deft ore]

you lose in real life

[fair thistle]

how sick

like markiplier death bed sick

or coughing sick

[deft ore]

why markiplier

coughing probably

[fair thistle]

Markiplier

[dense quail]

time to design a new joker!!

[fair thistle]

WHAT

[dense quail]

"design"

[deft ore]

this is him after he got got by the gangs in la

[deft ore]

wrong chat ignore that

[fair thistle]

right...

I just realized it already has joker on it I don't need 2 extra

[elfin inlet]

What is this for

[deft ore]

talking about balala mods

[deft ore]

whats in top left

[fair thistle]

Actually it's more modders chatting than chatting about modding but it's a mix of the 2

[fair thistle]

Free rerolls, for every tier 1 voucher you have.

(I'll remove it dw)

[deft ore]

my main complaint is its a short airplane

[deft ore]

oooh

[fair thistle]

Maybe I should tidy up the white text

[deft ore]

k well i have to go to bed before i accidentally pull an all nighter

can you like compile the new joker art somewhere so i dont miss a texture later

[stuck gorge]

when you gain another quadratic equation (from beating the algebra boss blind) you will instead get euler's identity

[fair thistle]

in your modthread ofc

[dire geyser]

Yo

I made a joker with joker forge could someone tell me how to add it too my game?

[elfin inlet]

Bro, why are more furries playing Balatro than non-furries?

[plush hound]

NOT ME

[elfin inlet]

That’s weirdo

[dire geyser]

Who the furries 😭

[plush hound]

there should be an instruction

[dire geyser]

on the website?

[deft ore]

do you all hate furries

[elfin inlet]

Lol

[plush hound]

@wanton rapids how do you implement ^Mult thing without Talisman?

[elfin inlet]

You probably already figured it out, but I dont.

[dire geyser]

Do you know how to use the joekr forge because im seriously struggling\

[fair thistle]

if you're wondering, that text is just me tracing over "Joker" in Japanese

[elfin inlet]

That’s cool

[fair thistle]

though I did accidentally cut a character let me jjst

final touch up

[elfin inlet]

Bro, how did you notice that

[fair thistle]

because it was 4 missing pixels. the character was originally like a backwards e

I am a shameless Google Translate user

[elfin inlet]

Ohh

[dense quail]

hell yeah

[elfin inlet]

You don’t speak english?

[fair thistle]

nono I am a proud american

[whole nova]

i am an american

[fair thistle]

I mean I'm a shameless Google Translate user for I just traced over the text

[elfin inlet]

YEAH, SORRY

LOL

[fair thistle]

It's all good

[stuck gorge]

just putting this clip here cause i need to send the link to someone else

[fair thistle]

I would probably say something like that too I'm a goober

[dense quail]

hmm

[hard plank]

disappointment

[dense quail]

do you put the amount of retriggers a joker does in the config = { extra = { ?

[elfin inlet]

I asked, cause I’m not english speaker

[fair thistle]

o

anyways I did rlly good with the fucked up dip pen for the grainy orange on the onigiri

[elfin inlet]

I wondered if you don’t talk English like me

[fair thistle]

chips are blue like tears

[fair thistle]

no edition rerolling 😭

[dense quail]

i want to make it just if hand contains three of a kind, retrigger all scored cards once

[fair thistle]

fair

[whole nova]

config values aren't for specific purposes most of the time, they're just where you store variables that could end up changing

[dense quail]

but is this or

[whole nova]

even if they don't change, it's advisable to put them there

[fair thistle]

I think I'm just really good at art today

[whole nova]

putting the variable in the config won't make it automatically retrigger, you'll need a return statement on a specific context for that

[elfin inlet]

Bro, actually you’re really good

[dense quail]

yeah im gonna look at Zany and like uhhh

[whole nova]

you could put anything in a card's config, text, a table, numbers, anything

[dense quail]

hanging chad

[whole nova]

hanging chad will show you how you retrigger

[dense quail]

and zany will show me how to look for a three of a kind

[whole nova]

yeah

then combine the two together in the same check

[dense quail]

but should i put retriggers in config or just leave it empty?

[fair thistle]

i feel like this card is perfect as is

maybe needs a retrace on the DELTA RUNE and the heart

so yknwo

[dense quail]

not the wingding 😭

[fair thistle]

it isnt jpeggy

[elfin inlet]

Nah bro, it’s okay just how it is

[fair thistle]

but idk i think the jpegness is funny

(that is, the low quality)

I love helping people rework bad art to be slightly less bad art

[rose yew]

Finally (semi) finished my mod!!!
#1356845095579549858 :D

[fair thistle]

wtf did I do I was just fucking with gradients omg help

anyways guys heres before

and here's after

glow up or no glow up

(we know which

[tender atlas]

The rice balls are pretty great. I'd say glow-up

[fair thistle]

also the name of the tower joker is singular, so i made the art more accurate

also the palmiers arent yknow

[tender atlas]

The katakana "Joker" is a fantastic touch

[fair thistle]

visual whiplash

[fair thistle]

thank you, google translate is very useful for an american like me lol

[tender atlas]

Oh huh. I mean it's literally the same word, just a different writing system

Also it's about to rain, I think. My ears are popping

[fair thistle]

hm. neat

these 5 seem pretty fine, just need like a refresh on their joker text for the first 4 excluding pineapple

all of their joker texts need like an outline or something but they seem pretty fine

i especially like the cookie one

[tender atlas]

Yep. If you were to back transliterate it, it'd be something like Jyōkā, but it's the same word and would be read correctly.

[fair thistle]

wow! :D

[tender atlas]

Even in English, the last r isn't pronounced strongly or at all in some dialects, so the usual approach for "er" endings is just a longer "ah" sound when writing it in katakana

[fair thistle]

actually i think pineapple would look better with THIS joker text, just lemme pull it up

[sleek granite]

joekah

[fair thistle]

i think this would look nice with the pineapple + an outline so the pineapple doesn't look like it's overlapping

there we go

[tender atlas]

This reminds me, I need to do a J. Joker Jameson card when I can figure out what to have it do.

Also linoleum is evil

[fair thistle]

you know what ELSE is evil

the plant

[dense quail]

okay, inner eye is now visible in game!! it does nothing yet

[fair thistle]

i sure do luv mixels in my balala

[fair thistle]

wait this is actually the plant's gay cousin trust me

THIS is the plant

[dense quail]

what is mixels 😭 am i uneducated

[fair thistle]

when the resolution of the card doesn't match with other pixels

in this case the item's pixel size is double the rest of the card's

creating a clashing background

[dense quail]

owh

but i dont feel like reworking isaac sprites to have smaller pixels

[elfin inlet]

What if the guy did want to draw the 9/11

[fair thistle]

maybe make the isaac sprite smoler?

[dense quail]

okay but then they are like fucking miniscule

[fair thistle]

but add the 3 of a kind thing below them ?

that that one typechips or typemult joker has

[dense quail]

oh yeah i could do that

[fair thistle]

well its tower (singular) also i think he liked it anyways

[dense quail]

but i could also just do that with the isaac sprite remaining its original size

i wanna make them accurate

[fair thistle]

im pretty sure theyre still pretty accurate with their pixel size matching the joker's

plus that way you could put like a silly graphic of what they do on the joker card alongside the isaac item

but you can do whatever you enjoy

im just throwing ideas here

[elfin inlet]

I’m joking, sorry

[fair thistle]

lol its ok

what the fuck

[wanton rapids]

return xmult equal to the emult with one less power

sorry I'm Outside right now

[sleek granite]

oh wait this is actually way cooler than i thought it was

context.after doesnt exist with cryptid

they override a function that only exists because of cryptid in the first place.
nice

kidnapping the rest of the function by putting it in a different function is devious behavior

[fair thistle]

this joker confuses me so much and its angering it doesnt tell me its dirty little secrets

[sleek granite]

its effect is ^1.1 mult

[fair thistle]

thats the edition

w h a t

did complexity creep just echip itself

[sleek granite]

some mods probably see cryptid and assume talisman exists

[fair thistle]

no i have talisman on but im still playing balance-things

[frigid mica]

Can you enable and disable certain stuff?

Like with cryptid

[stuck gorge]

i havent added any configuration to my mod yet, if you're talking about enabling/disabling supernatural items and special boss blinds then maybe i could do that yeah

[sinful ore]

YOUNGMAN! THERES NO NEED TO FEEL DOWN I SAID YOUNGMAN!

[fair thistle]

i thought these were gonna be really cruel, i was wrong, theyre just garbage cards that dont score

[wind turtle]

It seems that cryptid is trying to play the sound cry_echip when the sound it should be playing would be cry_echips

[frigid mica]

Phobaphobia Exotic?

[fair thistle]

p e a k

[frigid mica]

@amber river I think it’s done.

[fair thistle]

ahaah aaha hash aah h ah ash ash ah a ha hash ah ah a hahaha h aha ha i think im gonna switch to the other cryptid once i finish this run

[frigid mica]

If you want, i can do oedipia next

[fair thistle]

great now its breaking when i hover over things

[plush hound]

one less power?

likethis?

[distant badge]

balatro

[fair thistle]

an edition called positive which has the shader of Negative but inverted and it does nothing

[hard plank]

odorobo tachi

[latent crescent]

Quick! Mod with custom rarities which can appear in shop?

[warm spire]

The Line (BOSS Blind)
​Score at least 5X the base
​Reward: $3
After selecting this blind, the points of all remaining cards in the deck will be changed to the same as the number of cards played, based on the number of cards played.
“All Things Are Connected"

Blade Opening (BOSS Blind)
Score at least 2X the base
Reward: $3
After selecting the blind, count the number of cards in the deck. For each card in hand, the blind score increases by 10%.
"I say the knife should draw blood"

the latest version

[distant badge]

balatro

[dreamy abyss]

finity today

[latent crescent]

no way

[harsh glacier]

what.

[dreamy abyss]

did i stutter

[latent crescent]

salty ghost reference????

[fair thistle]

yes ^w^

[dreamy abyss]

what if tomorrow i drew (my renditions of) evolve’s prestige resources as consumables for fun. Do you think would that be neat

[latent crescent]

sure why not

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[dreamy abyss]

Strong aura: fuck it we ball

[harsh glacier]

power went out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1231066408767717446.webp?size=48

[dreamy abyss]

rip haya’s electricity

[harsh glacier]

34% battery on mobile data do you think I'll survive

[dreamy abyss]

It is a mystery.

[sleek granite]

haya

[dreamy abyss]

rn im at like. the height of my Evolve autism/hyperfixation(?) and i also wanna draw some silly shit to take my mind off the drama and garbage thats been happening lately
I am mentally unwell! Yippee!

[harsh glacier]

autumnmood

[dreamy abyss]

are you just making js compat for everything

[sleek granite]

"making"

i already went through all 126 joker pages i have loaded

[dreamy abyss]

ah

[harsh glacier]

made is the right word

development resumes tomorrow

[fair thistle]

here's them separated lol

[dreamy abyss]

i wonder what categories the finity jokers would be

[sleek granite]

me too

[fair thistle]

earth

[harsh glacier]

what the fuck is 4DPT

[dreamy abyss]

its 4dopt

[harsh glacier]

4d pt like the silent hill demo??????? but 4d??????

[dreamy abyss]

i cant use the cryptid tag so this is the best you’re getting.

[fair thistle]

though astro is missing a tiny bit of shading on the ear

[sleek granite]

he flying

[fair thistle]

Shinji, *50 chips.

[sleek granite]

see i think giving a silly attribute to things sometimes makes them funnier also :3

[dreamy abyss]

its. a virtual pet website. Think Neopets if it were awesome and also exclusively user-made content

[fair thistle]

instead of giving 50 chips it gives 49 chips per chip

[fair thistle]

so

neopets roblox

but not greedy corpo

[harsh glacier]

neopets if it was 4d

[sleek granite]

hell yeah

[dreamy abyss]

its not roblox…….. its an independent site

[fair thistle]

J O OO OO OKO KO EKROEK ROK RO EKROERK

[fair thistle]

neopets roblox in "usermade content" not "its own app"

[harsh glacier]

i fucking love Joker so much because it really is just a jimbo clone

it adds nothing else to the table

[distant badge]

Joker

[fair thistle]

it should make the mult flail wildly like youre at 1e308 mult while youre just at

2

[exotic dagger]

Joker

[fair thistle]

/j

[sleek granite]

what the fuck do you mean neuro and evil neuro are incompatible with this 😭

they should make it illegal to put things in config.extra that arent tables

[dreamy abyss]

robot rock

[latent crescent]

[sleek granite]

there's the "Cyberse" type nowadays in yugioh which is basically like digital creatures and stuff

[fair thistle]

astro with a fucking guitar

[sleek granite]

and if theres anything that sounds MORE like neuro id love to hear it

[fair thistle]

i hate how if a rarity cant appear it just throws jimbos in there like just generate a new rarity !!!!

[normal hollow]

the live twin vtubers are cyberse

[sleek granite]

N i made it through all the jokers

-# that i have installed

[normal hollow]

i saw! amazing

i wonder what they synergies are

[sleek granite]

an unfortunate amount of them are incompatible due to using non-table config.extra fields

i'm not mechanically changing any of them, lol ^^"

they are just treated as monsters and have attribute+type

and may or may not be tuners

[normal hollow]

i should make a system to add stuff to non-monster
i do want to have Zombie World that turns everything into zombies

[sleek granite]

45 vanilla jokers suffer from this

(or are disabled for parity among their cycle)

[sleek granite]

this does mean they get GY'd so there's innate potential for synergy there

[normal hollow]

i hope nothing breaks haha

[normal hollow]

fun fact: the boosters are the only place to use my custom rarity system with the only monsters option off

[fair thistle]

[fair thistle]

EVIL garb

[sleek granite]

i think my oddity that sends monsters to the graveyard may have an oversight then if you have a custom rarity handling method

is it balanced because you installed cryptid and i can throw the rules out the window and not care? probably

[fair thistle]

makes less sense than emult though

/j

[sleek granite]

i mean with sending it to the graveyard you stll have to figure out how to get it out of there

[hushed saffron]

all the (finished and mostly original) custom card art in my mod so far, first is the Charged Card Enhancement (+3 Mult for every hand played this stays in hand), then the two planet cards, for the hands Roundabout (each card has a unique suit) and Funny (a 6, 9, 4, 2, and 0 in that order) respectively, then finally the "Sine Wave" (+mult based on the sine of the current G.TIMERS.REAL) joker

[fair thistle]

^^2 chips /j

[hushed saffron]

oh i forgot about all the peasant cards too

[fair thistle]

Peasant of Triangles

[normal hollow]

sending to gy just ignores rarities lol

unless you filter them in the function

[hushed saffron]

[fair thistle]

peak

[wanton rapids]

what the reshuffled

[sleek granite]

also i got SEVEN pokermon and ONE joyousspring cards wth

[fair thistle]

photon readings are really fucking negative

[wanton rapids]

actually 60 suits sorry

[fair thistle]

ahem... Really fucking negative

[sleek granite]

who opened the gay Dark Fountain

[distant badge]

garb locked away forever

[fair thistle]

What if they had a library of Babel of suits

And each flush was a 1 in 1e3567886543 chance

[sleek granite]

and its fuckin lopter

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[normal hollow]

hi haya

[hushed saffron]

has anyone made a joker that like gives you a percentage of cash based on how much you beat a blind and surpassed the score requirment

[normal hollow]

i have seen some people say they wanted stuff like that and immediately realized they shouldn't reward that

[wanton rapids]

hi haya

yeah that sounds horrendously winmore

[hushed saffron]

oh yeah true

[normal hollow]

(im not using this to share my opinion on this i have actually seen multiple people come to the realization in this chat)

[hushed saffron]

it appears im still on my quest for joker ideas

[harsh glacier]

my joker ideas fucking suck

[sleek granite]

i really should expand on some of these mechanics more

oddities would be a lot cooler if there weren't 40 of the same one

[wanton rapids]

i should make oddities

[sleek granite]

(or at least if there were more to dilute the pool)

[lunar sluice]

the idea is interesting the problem is theres no way to control how much you overscore unless you score less on purpose its just if youre already doing good youre not winning

its not something you have any influence over besides getting less money by making mistakes is the problem

[hushed saffron]

time to make obligatory legendary joker of mod creator's oc

[harsh glacier]

boring

make it a common

[hushed saffron]

TRUE!

[wanton rapids]

make it [superlegendary]

[sleek granite]

ruby did you know that cryptid eats context.after with a function declaration and then just... never uses that function

[normal hollow]

make all of your jokers include your oc hanging out somewhere

[lunar sluice]

do you know where it does it

cause i can just remove it

[lunar sluice]

oh wait

[sleek granite]

the relevant patch on cryptid's side is in none.toml

[lunar sluice]

i think this might actually be my fault 💀

[sleek granite]

yeah i just patched in afterward to hotfix it myself

[wanton rapids]

what the none

[lunar sluice]

this is 100% unjntentional/a typo

i mean ovbiously

but like i coded it

[sleek granite]

yeah

thats what they all say /j

speaking of skull emoji i also dumped joyousspring properties on entropy

[lunar sluice]

im confused what the issue even is here cause these patches are fuckin wack

i mean

im confused which patch is even being dumb here

[sleek granite]

i really like the part where cryptid patches a function declaration in the middle of another function, after patching using a pattern that only exists because it put it there, and ultimately hooks that function somewhere else for some reason???

[latent crescent]

Man, edition probabilities calculation sucks

[sleek granite]

(and then doesn't call that function anyway but as established thats a typo)

[latent crescent]

[lunar sluice]

these patches are fucking ass

someone please revoke my coding permissions

[fair thistle]

[lunar sluice]

okay i figured it out

[sleek granite]

oh right also i think cryptid's glass edition has some issues

[grand geode]

someone please give me ruby's permissions i will do absolutely nothing to improve cryptid

[sleek granite]

its checking card.ability.odds instead of card.edition.odds

[fair thistle]

I will do nothing.

[hushed saffron]

omw to do a speedrun of the worst joker ideas ever:

• joker that occasionally puts playing cards in your jokers area and has mult for how many are in there
• joker that has a small chance to replace a played card with itself (still in your deck with a suit and rank) and it has like a mult and chip bonus or something but gets weaker the more of itself there are
• joker that has a mystery 3rd multiplier called "johns" or something stupid and its like green or something
• joker with like +25 mult but it always self destructs after 3 rounds, but it gets another round of life for every consumable used and card destroyed
• idk i got burnt out of ideas already

[fair thistle]

...

nothing done

[harsh glacier]

hi myst

[fair thistle]

literally Glop but renamed to Johns

[grand geode]

• bad, wastes joker slots
• bad, why does it scale down
• glop
• weak

[hushed saffron]

wait someone did that already

awesome

[lunar sluice]

this is where its meant to be right???

[sleek granite]

that's where ive put it and it seems to work

[lunar sluice]

im pretty sure this is right

[hushed saffron]

i told you they are bad 🔥

[grand geode]

hi haya urara

[lunar sluice]

but i dont have anything to test it with rn and i just woke up

[fair thistle]

hi myst

[sleek granite]

it makes my potions stop not stopping

[lunar sluice]

this happens on main too i assume

[grand geode]

Hello, Astro.

[lunar sluice]

i mean i can check

but im lazy

[sleek granite]

thats funny actually that an entire context doesn't exist with cryptid

[lunar sluice]

thats weird because im pretty sure ive used context.after before after none exists

idk

[fair thistle]

. . .

fucked up pixels

[hushed saffron]

hold on does anyone have a screenshot for this i gotta see it

[fair thistle]

it's a joke in the cryptid community

actually their discord once had a glop-tommorrow channel

[hushed saffron]

glop

[grand geode]

search for Potassium in #1209506514763522108, it's the more popular one

[lunar sluice]

also i cant believe no one else even noticed this until now thats like actually so funny

i mean its awful but like

how did no one notice this

[sleek granite]

i think context.after isnt used very much

[grand geode]

does cryptid fix after itself or does nobody just use the jokers with after because they're busy rerolling exotics

[sleek granite]

base game i wanna say has like two jokers for it

[sleek granite]

the latter

it literally just didnt work

i thought it was like consumables getting excluded from the context for some reason but i eventually figured out the entire fuckin context wasnt happening

[dreamy abyss]

i play cryptid but i dont reroll spam
not because its boring but because im lazy :P

[fair thistle]

I don't reroll spam because I'm too busy skipping blinds and playing boss blinds because like it's already gonna take 15 years to lose to anything

[fair thistle]

what does context after even do I'm psure the only time I've seen it is the desync sticker

[sleek granite]

its for after a hand scores

it is only used in vanilla for Ice Cream and Seltzer's counts

[fair thistle]

weird...

[grand geode]

lobcorp uses after a lot to reset card states

so i would notice

[fair thistle]

Oh I see it's probably because it's per hand and there's not much per hand scaling

[grand geode]

unfortunately i don't play cryptid

[sleek granite]

most per hand scaling wants to happen before or during a hand

[solar sandal]

good meowning chat

[fair thistle]

That's interesting and actually makes sense

[sleek granite]

but sometimes you have

[fair thistle]

There's just not much jokers that scale after

In base that is

[sleek granite]

and you can't score in after so it tends to not really get much in terms of modded jokers... id believe if it just genuinely is a rare occurance

[fair thistle]

Scissors Are Sharp

[sleek granite]

but now i can get back to adding dumb crossmod

[harsh glacier]

sometimes i wonder why you're a moderator at the cryptid discord

[fair thistle]

@fair thistle you seein' this???

[hushed saffron]

hold on my brain is churning go go gadget another speed round of terrible joker ideas

• joker that has a rarity that is random each run (except legendary) and gets a mult bonus for each joker in your area with the same rarity
• refrigerator: makes anything that self destructs without a chance take two self destructs before actually getting destroyed, also makes jokers and like glass cards (with the 1 in whataver chance of self destructing) 33% less likely to do so
• jar of peanut butter: peanut in deck... yum...
• joker that makes all planet cards have like a slim chance to ALSO upgrade your most played hand (including the same hand planet cards)
• pickle jar: turns into "open pickle jar" in 3 blinds, but will gain a blind-wait if you play the randomized-per-round hand on the card
• open pickle jar: big xmult or something that makes the restriction worth it
• idk burnt out of ideas again

feel free to roast me for these mid ideas

[normal hollow]

theyre amazing

now go make them rn

[fair thistle]

fridge was done by Ortalab no ? also the most played hand one seems cool but there's also an existent joker that makes planet cards have a slim chance to instead invoke the Black hole effect

wait no, fridge was diff

on ortalab

it was consumable related, I'm dumb

[lunar sluice]

i really hope that reroll spam wont exist eventually

i mean on equilibrium you cant reroll exotics no matter what you do if my changes go through so like thats one solution to it but it doesnt stop you from being annoying and copying exotics and using commit

but thats also a lot harder to pull off

[hushed saffron]

+3495 slots in the shop problem solved

[solar sandal]

how to crash peoples games in 3 simple steps

[fair thistle]

crustulum should have the similar effect to reroll exchange on balance-things, starting at -25 or something if you really wanna curb reroll spam

[lunar sluice]

i had a better idea for crustulum somewhere

[hushed saffron]

no no its peak you dont understand

[fair thistle]

Cuz tbh if it's reroll spam it's always crusty

[lunar sluice]

i mean half my idea half ice's iirc

[fair thistle]

o ok

[sleek granite]

crustulum should be a delicious cake and you should be able to eat it and share with your friends

[lunar sluice]

i was gonna make it not reroll based at all

but i got lazy and had no ideas

also i think after a certain point if i start being too radical with the exotics theyll kill me even though i want to

its kinda hard to balance making it actually good and not changing stuff too much to the point where itll just get undone

[grand geode]

can't wait for the squiddy rant after they come back and see this

[lunar sluice]

worse for exotics