⚙・modding-general

[plush hound]

i got an apple

[umbral pilot]

oh I thought you got a cool pen

[gilded vortex]

Nxkoo the gaslighter

[plush hound]

its a sword now

[tropic egret]

function that just combines equal ranks ig

[plush hound]

shh

[tropic egret]

as an initial step

[full edge]

I think it's the new way for Cryptid's value manipulation to be called

[wanton rapids]

that'd still be O(n) so it's probably fine

[normal hollow]

ok, so all ranks have to be the same basically?

[wanton rapids]

if there's one collision (one rank matching) the number of elements in the resulting set goes down by 1

[frigid mica]

How do you replicate that?

[normal hollow]

ohh yeah i get it now ty

[wanton rapids]

i think this is a pretty standard approach for checking set intersections

i would assume at least

[normal hollow]

idk why i read "half the sum"

so i was confused by that

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah makes sense

[formal orchid]

hello chat

[full edge]

Depends on the usecase. Why do you wanna replicate it?

[wanton rapids]

actually you could probably just make the first card into a hashmap and then check the second card's ranks

[frigid mica]

for just one broken joker.

[wanton rapids]

hello revo

[normal hollow]

cryptid.gaslight when

[full edge]

The way to replicate it is by figuring out how Cryptid is doing it and then writing something that does a similar thing. My own value manipulation works a bit different, because there's a bunch of design choices you need to make for which values get manipulated. The way to do it is basically just go over everything in a .ability.extra and then multiply those values. The difficulty is in excluding values that would break a joker's functionality

[frigid mica]

I plan to make a joker, deck, and spectral/tarot based around my joker pool.

[frigid mica]

This is not in any way related to why I’m asking for replicating Cryptid.manipulate.

[wanton rapids]

that's already used by Oil Lamp

[normal hollow]

im sorry i couldnt read you what did you say

[wanton rapids]

doesn't matter

[normal hollow]

everything you say matters

[grand geode]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[grave panther]

all for me

my monies now

[exotic pine]

I actually did it

[whole hatch]

WHAT

LIAD

[exotic pine]

Yep

[whole hatch]

LIAR

[exotic pine]

I pressed the button

No I swear

[grave panther]

Logs don’t Lie

[exotic pine]

I was fast enough this time

[wanton rapids]

damn it i was tabbed out how am i supposed to tell the mods to add one electron to every atom in the scammer's body now

[whole hatch]

Thank you 🙏🙏🙏

Same for me too

[grand geode]

the balacord mods situation is crazy

[exotic pine]

DAMMIT

[gilded tulip]

yeah, modding chats do go crazy sometimes

[exotic pine]

I'm gonna crash out

[gilded tulip]

I hear y'all have had at least two dramas

maybe even 3

[exotic pine]

You guys are so fast

[wanton rapids]

ooh those look cool

[gilded tulip]

H

how does that work

they pop if four are connected

what the fuck

[wanton rapids]

true,

[grave panther]

No that’s a different mod

[grand geode]

fake ass puyo pieces

[exotic pine]

Hey since we're in modding chat

I saw a trailer for a sick Balatro mod

[gilded tulip]

(jokes aside, they do look cool, well done)

[grand geode]

which one there are many

[exotic pine]

Bunco

[wanton rapids]

-# (Not Vanilla)

[gilded tulip]

Ah, I see
That is a shame

would've been cool to have the Puyo Puyo characters on the face cards

Witch my beloved

[grand geode]

most vanilla mod that did not get anybody to crash out

[exotic pine]

I like mods that pretend to be original dlc

That don't break the immersion

You know localthunk spent a lot of time world building and creating this whole universe

[wanton rapids]

yeah jokes aside i'd say bunco is one of the better mods out there

especially considering how early it released compared to other mods

[hard plank]

wtf arle from puyo???

[jaunty galleon]

strange to see green names in modding-chat

[normal hollow]

i love arle

[grand geode]

does drawing finity's periwinkle pinecone count as aikoshen fanart

[dreamy abyss]

aiyoriok Shimigimas

[wanton rapids]

it is both finity and aikoshen fanart

but like 75% finity 25% aikoshen

[hard plank]

sorry but partially

[gilded vortex]

Did anyone say Bunco isn’t well-made :P

[hard plank]

doc crashout

[wanton rapids]

well it was in reference to a message which was in reference to the doc crashout so. yes actually

[gilded vortex]

That wasn’t their criticism

[lament torrent]

wich mod fix this fire display and sound bug ?

[hard plank]

😭

[fathom gust]

i think i used too many multiply cards

[twilit lion]

why is nopeus not findable?

[wanton rapids]

oh right the doc crashout wasnt in reference to the quality of the mod. mb

[twilit lion]

any one knows?

[gilded vortex]

I don’t like the crash out or the “apology” but Balatro University didn’t say it was poorly made

[full edge]

The original is no longer available

[wanton rapids]

https://github.com/lord-ruby/RubysBalatroCollection there's an archive here

[twilit lion]

yo, thank u so much

i came looking for copper and I found gold

[whole nova]

handy is considered a replacement for it now, but yeah the archived version also exists

[twilit lion]

I have handy but doesnt let me speed up the game, I dont know why

[whole nova]

it should be somewhere in the config

[twilit lion]

I know, but it doesnt work

I mean, i find the option but im not able to do enable it

[wanton rapids]

i haven't played grab bag sorry

[grand shadow]

the head retexture

[jaunty galleon]

1984

[grand shadow]

the mark texture

the hook

chat please tell me im funny

[glacial folio]

ive made another native version of balatro for linux and im wondering how id get mods working, since idk if there are any linux versions of lovely

i do love dlls its just i cant use them

and i dont feel like using wine because the native version has proper touch controls and the audio doesnt cut off

[grand shadow]

linux moment

[glacial folio]

oh there is a linux build for lovely thatll help alot

[humble saffron]

doesn't he rip apart into xray joker for being poorly designed

[silk wagon]

why does this break, would report it in the mod's thread but i have no idea which one breaks it

[full edge]

cryptid

[humble saffron]

like there's absolutely no other way to interpret that part
i do think there's merit to giving drspectred some kind of moral backing but there's no sugarcoating it, the video is a joke

[full edge]

someone else had the same crash yesterday, but I don't see any matching mods. Might be an issue with smods?

[jaunty galleon]

bunco i think

that's what was causing it yesterday

[lunar sluice]

i dont think his reasoning is unjustified i just think the way he goes about it and what he specifically does was dumb

[humble saffron]

what is this justified reasoning you speak of

[lunar sluice]

i dont really think the mod is that close to vanilla for everyone to keep mentioning it as a vanilla-like mod

i think its very cool but like

some of this stuff would not come to vanilla in a million years in any alternate universe

[humble saffron]

it is called vanilla because it was in the era of 0.9.8 steamodded where modding was in infancy and jellymod was popular

[lunar sluice]

i mean its mostly just a terminology issue

which ive said my thoughts on a few times before

aka

vanilla-like is meaningless terminology i dont gain any information before i play the mod unless i already know the creator

[humble saffron]

besides why are we even arguing why the mod is called vanilla

[lunar sluice]

i dont really care that much

[limber sandal]

this is balanced right

[lunar sluice]

i think there are better ways to describe your mod

but i think it doesnt matter either

after a certain point its just semantics

which is not, not important

but not like

if you get it wrong youre an evil person

its just kinda irrelevant most of the time

i think being able to convey information accurately and in a meaningful way is better than not being able to but its also not important

[humble saffron]

i feel like if vanilla-like is meaningless terminology then there is no backing to the drspec crashout at all and everything in the video is unreasonable

which i think is true

[lunar sluice]

i mean i think hes unreasonable

i just dont think the people who were like "nuh uh youre wrong it actually is close to vanilla" are correct or even grasping at the actual thing they should be in the first place

that is just not really true in my opinion

i guess the way i worded what i meant was kinda vague

[limber sandal]

what is the drspec crash out lol

[lunar sluice]

arguing about whos right or wrong over what the definition of vanilla-like is like outside of the actual reason why this is important which is another reason why the crashout was unreasonable

it doesnt actually do anything

[humble saffron]

yeah there's no meaning behind saying a mod is "more/less/closer to/further from vanilla"

we say it to give expectations behind a mod's design

[lunar sluice]

the main issue is what those expectations are meant to be is impossible to know in advance and different people will use it to mean different things

[humble saffron]

yup

[lunar sluice]

they can be vaguely in the same direction but youll never know exactly

i think this is also why he got mad

different people were using it to mean different things

including him

[humble saffron]

ig it feels objective to him

[lunar sluice]

to me its like

getting mad over people constantly saying something is vanilla-like when you dont agree is fine but when you start to make a video about it instead of ignoring them that sorta crosses the line

not all your grievances need to be aired out in public you can just not like it and move on

[lofty nacelle]

i now understand why many people prefer to make mods inspired by other games. Creating sprites takes a lot of effort

[lunar sluice]

i mean partly that

and partly the fact that theres a lot of unexplored design space because thunk didnt play other roguelikes on purpose

which is fine btw i dont want this to come across the wrong way

but it means theres a lot of interesting ideas you can play around with just by porting things from other games

[full edge]

If you're solo-developing a mod and you want art assets, that's gonna take a good amount of your time. Art was like 10% of the time I spent on a joker at worst, but at this point for most of them it's over 50%, I reckon, just because I'm also doing a pixel art version for each one I add atm

[normal hollow]

i do add_yugioh_card_to_sprite.py

[jaunty galleon]

hello i am back from talking in #🕹・game-discussion it is interest to hear what vanilla players better than me think of the game

[normal hollow]

why did you go there then

[jaunty galleon]

for the reason stated

i like seeing what makes a joker good esp. on higher stakes because i don't enjoy playing higher stakes

also on vanilla+, vanilla isn't really vanilla

if photograph wasn't basegame and was in a vanilla+ mod people would think "that's not vanilla+ at all! why is this common joker xmult"

[full edge]

no apparently most vanilla is some extract from beaver glands?

[jaunty galleon]

wait what

i mean. i guess red food coloring is crushed bugs and jelly is animal bone

i shouldn't be surprised

[lofty nacelle]

don't think so, it is quite weak without retriggers
the loyalty card has also an xmult effect

[jaunty galleon]

yeah and that's uncommon

xmult is prety normal for an uncommon

[jaunty galleon]

not because it's broken or anything it's just not like. vanilla in the traditional sense

i don't think this is an internet thing. it makes sense that people get enotionally invested in something they sink a lot of time into, and doc has played a loooot of balatro

[humble saffron]

i think he got (still is?) too attached to the idea of ecred being the "most vanilla" mod rather than focusing on what he wants ecred to be

like i'd say ecreds vision is more like "adding jokers/decks that attempt to align with vanilla's design decisions, minimising the effect on vanilla's gameplay loop while adding new strategies" which is one perspective on "vanilla content modding"

but the important thing is bunco's vision could be described as "adding jokers/mechanics/etc that attempt to align with vanilla's design decisions, with new mechanics being implemented in an attempt to mimic vanilla's approach" which allows bunco to expand the game "sideways" rather than "vertically", while still being able to describe itself as a vanilla expansion because it's still considered at every step

it's just different perspectives at the end of the day

[jaunty galleon]

i bet tabletop/tcg players etc. have equally heated discussions over similar unimportant things irl and i certainly have them with friends and family on tops we're both invested in

you ever see an irl smash tournament? those guys are RABID

[jaunty galleon]

when balatro mods exist in the same space as cryptid, vanilla+ is mostly just code for "not like cryptid"

[lost bolt]

i like playing with my jokers

[humble saffron]

back then it was code for "not like jellymod"

lol

[lunar sluice]

cryptid wont even be that bad if i get my way at some point

so even that will be meaningless

[jaunty galleon]

cryptid's been getting much better recently to the devteam's credit

like past few months has been quality stuff

[lunar sluice]

i and a few other people have started a not so official rebalancing effort

[humble saffron]

i've been lurking in cryptidcord waiting for the dictatorship to rise

[lunar sluice]

ive put it on a new branch but theres a non 0 chance it gets killed off

[humble saffron]

got a bit scattered since math went on hiatus

[wanton rapids]

oh is it not official (?)

[lunar sluice]

well like half official

i am of course dev lead and i am probably going to get the power to make it official very soon

[wanton rapids]

makes sense

[river mango]

anyone know of a mod for modpacks that makes them play well better

[jaunty galleon]

is it publically available? i'd like to play it at some point

[lunar sluice]

but right now specifically its not

[river mango]

similar to glue for modpacks

[lunar sluice]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/tree/balance-things

[lost bolt]

i do not like jelly mod very much because of the art

i'd rather have no art than that

[lunar sluice]

i should change the repo tagline

[round ore]

what mods are in this picture (fold blind, inventory, skill tree, level, sleeves)

[humble saffron]

dimserene did stuff with modpacks but left at some point

[jaunty galleon]

also, m is a stupid bit and m jokers mostly suck

[humble saffron]

honestly it was quite nice because it helped iron out many crossmod issues

[lunar sluice]

i said when this first started that i think the idea of being unbalanced is bad branding for cryptid cause it leads to the idea that things that are poorly designed are allowed to exist just because they are unbalanced

[jaunty galleon]

well, that is the case

i think you'd have to chop a fair bit of content out of cryptid to reel it back in

[lunar sluice]

it being a mod much closer to vanilla balancing with like more maximum potential and more quirkyness a la tboi repentance is what id find ideal

idk if it will ever be fully balanced

[jaunty galleon]

uhhh paya, yggdrasil and cardsleeves iirc

[lunar sluice]

but it can be a lot closer

[jaunty galleon]

i agree that would make it much much better

[humble saffron]

i think cryptid's "intentionally unbalanced" was an inaccurate description from the start

[lunar sluice]

cryptid isnt intentionally unbalanced its intentionally designed poorly

the unbalance is just a side effect of that

[jaunty galleon]

i would actually start playing cryptid if that vision gets realised

[lunar sluice]

i mean this is my goal in the end

people who just play for big numbers will be happy with the fact that i probably wont cut exponentials

but normal people ideally would be able to play still

and not just to see what its like still

[jaunty galleon]

expos are just a flawed idea imo

[lunar sluice]

i wanna push them to be only on exotics

and nerf the scaling

[jaunty galleon]

makes sense

[lunar sluice]

some of them scale too fast

[tranquil vessel]

balanced cryptid???

[jaunty galleon]

joker value manip is a terrible idea genuinely

[lunar sluice]

value manip is already basically gone other than gemini

let me post it

[jaunty galleon]

after watching some rofflatro videos i'm convinced there's no saving it

[tranquil vessel]

what's wrong with in rofflatro

[lunar sluice]

might be an overcorrection idk i like it,

having it be temporary is really interesting to me

[wanton rapids]

by temporary is that until end of round or what

[lunar sluice]

its more strategic than just "make 1 joker have really big numbers"

[lunar sluice]

something like that i didnt decide yet

either that or until the end of ante

[humble saffron]

shoutout to csl singlehandedly slowing additions to a crawl and then approving oil lamp and smoothie

what a nightmare

[jaunty galleon]

temp value manip could 100% work, rather than making it a free win when you get a chad with 22 retrigs

[humble saffron]

i don't like immutable as balance unless MAYBE it's VERY clearly stated

temporary is fun

[full edge]

I have it as a feature in Kino and I have to say that I don't think my implementation of it is super broken. But part of that is that it's always conditional or temporary

[lunar sluice]

i mean oil lamp doesnt even need to be immutable if its temporary other than gemini

i didnt make gemini temporary and idk what i wanna do with it

im unsure

on one hand its an exotic and its already immutable so its not that bad

on the other hand

it still turns all runs into meaningless slop

[jaunty galleon]

i think value manip always needs to be temporary imo

[lunar sluice]

where your exact setup is irrelevant and theres no room for anything interesting

it being exotic doesnt free it from that issue

[full edge]

Oh, and Kino's is inherently non-repeatable, that's also a pretty important addition. I added one that was repeatable in my dev branch and I'm reworking it immediately, because it's impossible to balance

[jaunty galleon]

if it megasouped a random joker when you selected a blind for a round/a few rounds i can see that being interesting, you actually have to think about which jokers to keep so gemini doesn't hit something terrible

[wanton rapids]

yeah infinite value manip is basically infinite jokers which sucks for balance

[lunar sluice]

infinite value manip even outside of balance is like the most boring way to make things powerful

[prime dock]

real quick off topic but did you know the guy who wrote the new lilo and stitch movie also wrote dear david and that was his only two movies

[lunar sluice]

waiter waiter slop and gruel please! i love every run being the exact same

[jaunty galleon]

yeah a god run in cryptid makes me feel nothing

[nova elm]

guys

can somebody help me rq

[jaunty galleon]

with?

[nova elm]

i got a lebaron james on my consumable slots

and when

i sell it

my game

crashes

idk why

[humble saffron]

god runs in vanilla ain't good either

[wanton rapids]

god runs in general are hard to make feel good

[full edge]

that's 7 more decks added

[wanton rapids]

since by definition you have to do something uninteresting

[jaunty galleon]

as i said yesterday i prefer fighting for my life

[lunar sluice]

i think ive said this here before but my ideal vision is for it to mimic something to the effect of the binding of isaac repentance, getting a good run is satisfying because you have to do a lot of complex stuff to pull it off and getting a good run is basically a puzzle that you have to figure out the good run is the reward rather than anything else

[humble saffron]

obelisk 10/10 design, blueprint 2/10 design

[wanton rapids]

True....

[full edge]

a lot of hollywood writers work on lots of projects with getting writing credit, as that's incredibly specifically laid out in contracts. I think Mike Van Waes was a writer's room and script doctor guy mostly, so that results in basically never getting a screenwriting credit

[lunar sluice]

i mean i dont think it needs to be exactly isaac-like just vaguely speaking

[jaunty galleon]

bp/bs kind of are lousy design wise

[lunar sluice]

the sentiment that good runs feel good to do because they are hard to get to

rather than sometimes you just get lucky and it happens

[jaunty galleon]

i also don't like obelisk and that's because clicking into run info every few hands just sort of pisses me off

[lunar sluice]

it also helps with this to not have any instant win items

if 1 item can instantly win the game without any other considerations its really boring and good runs become really boring

its why all the exotics that scale by rewarding you for doing things that you want to be doing anyway are bad

[humble saffron]

blueprint is not fun

[lunar sluice]

like exponentia

[humble saffron]

blueprint is only "fun" because it's good

[gilded vortex]

Why

[jaunty galleon]

they break a lot of well designed jokers in my experience and actually limit the design space you get to work with

[gilded vortex]

I think you’re approaching it from the wrong angle

[full edge]

I feel like BP and BS get kinda stale in the context of endless. But doubling effects in engine builders is a very common good effect that can definitely be fun

[gilded vortex]

Blueprint is meant to be strong

Breaking Jokers isn’t an issue

[jaunty galleon]

getting two of the same joker feels good. it's rewarding and it's difficult to pull off without making a major sacrifice

[gilded vortex]

It’s a feature

You shouldn’t balance around Blueprint

[wanton rapids]

they're lousy in the same way that final destination smash bros is lousy design wise (in that theres not much to design)

[gilded vortex]

Not too much anyways

[humble saffron]

yes but doubling effects usually have some sort of downside/catch

take dead god cult from geometry dash

[jaunty galleon]

...which kind of just tells me they blow the game wide open

[gilded vortex]

Dynamic copying can be interesting but often it’s better to copy scoring over utility, and scoring is usually ordered

[jaunty galleon]

DGC MENTIONED!!! WOOOOO

[gilded vortex]

But that’s intentional

Some game mechanics can be stronger than others

And providing players with power spikes is a design element

None of this is inherently good or bad

[jaunty galleon]

brainstorm is a little better design wise, but in a game with blueprint it becomes a more annoying blueprint

[gilded vortex]

Blueprint is intentionally stronger than average for its class, and that’s fine

Blueprint is therefore stronger than average with some Jokers, and that’s still fine

[jaunty galleon]

it's fun to see a blueprint appear sure

but actually playing the rest of the run is boring

you drag it left of your best joker and call it a day

[normal hollow]

the only fun cards are green joker and immolate

[gilded vortex]

I think it’s a consequence of this

But anyways I was arguing against your previous comment

Not against the new goalpost

[jaunty galleon]

it's not an interesting way to break the same, when i say they blow the game wide open that's not inherently wrong because plenty of strats in balatro do that

[lost bolt]

it should like

list your most played hand

[jaunty galleon]

but they require more than one joker usually

[lost bolt]

and the amount of times its played

[lusty holly]

Where do I go for an entropy crash?

[gilded vortex]

I disagree that it’s not interesting because you rarely have effect redundancy in Balatro

[full edge]

#1356061616063385763 or the Entropy server, or Ruby's still here and will happen to see, haha

[gray cove]

They said crash

[gilded vortex]

Good point. I wouldn’t know because I don’t use Obelisk

[humble saffron]

necromancer retriggers your whole setup (very good) but you have to play it as the second card out of seven (not consistent)
mimic copies the card on the left (very good) but playing mimic directly after a card you want to copy can be quite an issue if you haven't upgraded it, so it'll change contexts often and sometimes you just can't play it (complicated)

both are still powerful and easily top tier cards, but still interesting because playing around them isn't easy
blueprint is easy, there is no condition. you will play your build the exact same way, if not easier

[gray cove]

Oh im just stupid

[gilded vortex]

None of those first two are vanilla

[humble saffron]

i was talking about dgc sorry

[humble saffron]

^

[gilded vortex]

I thought Geometry Dash was an auto runner

[jaunty galleon]

yeah if bp/bs had some kind of condition they'd be much more interesting

[full edge]

I think I'm gonna redo every non-genre and non-northernlion reference deck in this style. I like how cohesive it feels

[humble saffron]

blueprint being strong is not the problem

they are strong without any demands

they make you stronger just by existing

[gilded vortex]

I agree and disagree

[gilded vortex]

That’s intentional but partially incorrect

[jaunty galleon]

dead god cult is a short deckbuilder built in geometry dash, go check out a gameplay video it's really cool actually

[fallow bramble]

Was it ever explained why both BS and BP exists btw?

[gilded vortex]

In vanilla, BP is interesting because it’s one of the few Jokers of its kind, but in effect and what it asks of you

[gilded vortex]

I think thunk just said they were fun?

Again, I mentioned before, it’s a conscious choice of giving the player a power spike

[fallow bramble]

They're so similar except than one is worst than the other

[jaunty galleon]

yeah bp definetely is less interesting in modded

[gilded vortex]

The few occasions where manipulating BP is relevant is also interesting

[fallow bramble]

The only reason I see why they both exist is to have has much chance as possible to have 2 "copy" effect. But if BS was made to copy the joker to the left it would have been too similar to BP

[gilded vortex]

I do agree I find Brainstorm worse, but I do wonder if it’s an extended tutorial for Joker position manipulation, as well a remainder from a time where Joker positioning was going to matter more

[jaunty galleon]

i agree with this too to be fair, i like macroing bp to trigger an end of round condition, or when i have hallucination

[full edge]

Mods should sign a contract that allows to make only 1 blueprint variant per 150 jokers they add

[gilded vortex]

The end of round condition is unintended

[humble saffron]

i believe this is the only reason that blueprint is interesting

[gilded vortex]

I suspect thunk will remove it

[normal hollow]

im 2 behind damn

[lunar sluice]

i should post my idea for what if canvas didnt suck here at some point

[fallow bramble]

Me looking at my 1.3k jokers wip mod

[gilded vortex]

@jaunty galleon If you look at card design for long-lived card games

[jaunty galleon]

is boredom fixed yet

[gilded vortex]

You’ll see many early effects are open-ended while later effects are very conditional

[lunar sluice]

boredom i had an interesting idea for but idk if i like it

[gilded vortex]

I think this kind of conditional design is more interesting because it pushes for specific synergies

[lunar sluice]

idk if this is too much of an overcorrection for an epic

[full edge]

I still have no retrigger jokers or blueprint variants in Kino. Though I think with me having added Retrigger counters, there's room for an interesting joker design based on it

[gilded vortex]

Though it tends to power creep the game because decks made to fulfill the conditions can do so as easily as, well, existing

[gilded vortex]

I want to add a “Blueprint but it expires” because of a pun, and I had had the idea of retriggering Commons long ago, just like KC

[jaunty galleon]

yeah probably, i have an uncommon that has the exact same effect as part 2 and it's... alright

[normal hollow]

i dont have blueprint variants because i never tested my jokers with blueprint

[fallow bramble]

I think "The Thing" would make a greaty copy movie joker

[lunar sluice]

let me post canvas 2.0 i like it tbh

[gilded vortex]

I also considered adding a Blueprint but only when you play Straight Flush

[prime dock]

is there a website or tool that helps format joker descriptions

[lunar sluice]

although its still a little on the strong side

[jaunty galleon]

i mean. compared to old canvas this is much more reasonable

[full edge]

The 1980s the Thing is a smeared joker variant, but I've had the assets for the 1950s the Thing finished for weeks, I just haven't figured out an interesting take on blueprinting, haha

[gilded vortex]

The pun is that the temporary Blueprint is ||Chai Tea||

[lunar sluice]

its also more interesting

[fallow bramble]

Oh there was 2 The Thing movies?

[lunar sluice]

having 50 jokers is like already what you wanna do

[prime dock]

because i dont like my joker descriptions to stretch far but its hard to eyeball where i should stop each line

[lunar sluice]

but you usually want more rares/epics than anything so having to diversify is cool

[jaunty galleon]

if you had less access to joker slots in cryptid this would work great

[prime dock]

so it would be helpful if there was a tool to do it for me

[lunar sluice]

i mean you probably will

i dont like adversary or tenebris

[wanton rapids]

okay that's very silly

[full edge]

3! The Thing from another World from 1951 is based on the same short story, but drastically different. The 2011 the Thing is supposed to be a remake/prequel and I haven't seen that one, haha

[gilded vortex]

I’m so smart and funny :)

[fallow bramble]

Maybe this could help? https://ofmonstersandken.itch.io/balatro-text-tool

[gilded vortex]

I thought Fantastic Four was part of the Thing cinematic universe

[full edge]

Not that I'm aware of. An auto formatter would be wonderful, though

[gilded vortex]

I think I tend to eyeball it well

Although my main rule is to keep related concepts in the same line

Or rather

To not split up ideas

[fallow bramble]

If
you
have
3
Jokers
and
score
a
Three
of
a
Kind
gain
$3

[gilded vortex]

e.g. “Spades card” should be in the same line, not half on different lines

[wanton rapids]

just checking that I'm not stupid, the joke here is the name is basically ||tea tea||?

[gilded vortex]

“Three of a Kind” should be inside a line

[jaunty galleon]

i tend to write without formatting first so i can see how long each line is compared to one another

[livid comet]

Idk, would be nice if it did rightmost

we got too many ones for leftmost

[gilded vortex]

Fluff do you know that Brooklyn 99 meme with the puppy

[jaunty galleon]

i still don't get it

[wanton rapids]

rightmost is significantly stronger

[fallow bramble]

Damn

[wanton rapids]

uh no(?)

[livid comet]

not as strong as the current one is still

[gilded vortex]

The Joker named ||Chai Tea|| is a Food Joker that’s Blueprint, so it’s both temporary and redundant

[jaunty galleon]

ohhhhhhh

[normal hollow]

it does annoy me a little bit to write "hanafuda cards" in my mod but it would be confusing otherwise

[wanton rapids]

okay how is that relevant. am i stupid

[gilded vortex]

I thought it was cute you asked to ensure you weren’t stupid

[wanton rapids]

ah okay

[gilded vortex]

Sounds like something I’d think but not do

[jaunty galleon]

hmmm i need more vanilla boss blinds to turn into jokers

[livid comet]

Violet Vine?

[jaunty galleon]

3 more ideally i want 15 in total and i have 6 grab bag boss blinds

[harsh glacier]

hmmm i need more jokers

[jaunty galleon]

ideally not showdown blinds, that's finity's ballpark lol

[livid comet]

What about the ones about drawing cards face down?

[lunar sluice]

small blind 🗣️

[jaunty galleon]

i have two of those already for grab bag (mind and spirit), and the idea i had for the wheel is functionally identical to another joker i plan to add

[livid comet]

hmmm, The Plant?

Half chips and mult?

[jaunty galleon]

yeah i do kind of want to reward you for not skipping the plant

[livid comet]

idr the name for that one

[jaunty galleon]

flint?

[livid comet]

maybe?

I do not know the names just the effects mostly

[jaunty galleon]

you probably should, that'll be on the test next week

[livid comet]

Nah I'll just wing it

[spiral monolith]

is there a sound manager mod for balatro? i wanna replace the sounds of jimbo without having to manually edit the files

[livid comet]

it will be nothing like finding a needle in a haystack.... wait which one is the needle?

[wanton rapids]

also fwiw morefluff will have a few boss blinds as jokers for finity compat

[cerulean sigil]

The needle is one hand only

[wanton rapids]

since you can fight them as showdowns via the ticket

[lunar sluice]

theres a music manager that i made but idk if it works for sound effects i never tested it

[cerulean sigil]

Are there any mods I should definitely try?

[lunar sluice]

i also never documented it

[spiral monolith]

what im working on is wip so you can take your time with testing that

[jaunty galleon]

i'll probably make boss jokers have a chance to appear in the shop at any point after you've defeated them instead of finity's method

[azure dagger]

Aikoyori's Shenanigans and ColorfulCards.

-# And maybe go check out Wildcard Collection.

[lunar sluice]

for reference the mod is https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1377686129804972212

[jaunty galleon]

yeah but if that translated to its joker you'd never pick it up lol

[wanton rapids]

yeah fair enough, the compat ones will probably also be people like finity

the only one I've designed for the compat is the needle actually

"removes all but one hand, +2 discards per hand removed"

[jaunty galleon]

yeah mine look like this. not very finitylike

i swear there was a modded joker that looks EXACTLY like this

[gray schooner]

hell

[fallow bramble]

Paperback, grab bag, garbshit

[cerulean sigil]

I’ll look into them. I think I saw Roffle do the wildcard ones

[fallow bramble]

Also get Galdur it's great for deck organization

[wanton rapids]

green needle cardsauce

[jaunty galleon]

SuperFine!! and Plantain are good for flavouring

not biased because i would never do art for superfine ha ha ha

[jaunty galleon]

YES

[full edge]

#1307810407389593630 #1217704157574860810 and #1214097296317227028 are also definitely worth checking out!

[gilded vortex]

Mine

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1355819401198178455

[jaunty galleon]

i'm holding off on ortalab until full release comes out (tomorrow)

[gray schooner]

i saw like 4 vids on ortalab

[full edge]

decks all programmed in, I'm gonna waste time on an spellcasting UI for the spellslinger deck tomorrow, I reckon. I think I'm also gonna add some of the deck ideas that I've had that feel like they might fit into another, less-themed mod, as well, as long as I can tie them to a movie, haha

[cerulean sigil]

This was the first game I figured out how to mod on deck

[spiral monolith]

test run

i got 38 jokers left

[spiral monolith]

since when did someone else make a win9x card pack?

had to make one on my own

[gray cove]

Toga’s stuff is a cool mod

7/10

[storm forum]

The DeckSkin, you mean? I've had it for a while now, though, I'm not exactly unique in that regard anymore with the classic card look.

[gray cove]

There’s a dude chilling in my asset folder

[spiral monolith]

this one i made myself

[storm forum]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

-# Another unique instance of same source used.

[spiral monolith]

glad to know im not the only one who turned the club cards blue

[storm forum]

I was simply following the original palette for the low/high contrast versions.

[terse portal]

localthunk did that too

[normal hollow]

development resumes tomorrow

[terse portal]

thats real

[normal hollow]

it's the first time in a while were an idea for a card i made doesn't work the first time i try it

so im going to think about it tomorrow

[gray cove]

What are you even developing

[normal hollow]

a new archetype for joyous

[gray cove]

Oh

No new mod

Can we have a joyous autumn

[normal hollow]

it's based on playing hands of 3, 6 and 9s and a bunch of weird effects

[normal hollow]

after im done with joyousspring im making a game or something

[gray cove]

Approximately how many

[normal hollow]

im not that into balatro

[gray cove]

A game is crazy

I’ll play test

[jaunty galleon]

risk cards have to be my favourite modded consumeable to look at oh my god they're beautiful

and conceptually they're super cool

i have got to hop on paya's at some point

[gray cove]

Some joker are bugged

But i’ll say its a really cool

Mod

[terse portal]

can it *have a fishing mini game

[gray cove]

Gacha deck is overpowered

[harsh glacier]

my mod sucks

[gray cove]

Its definitely fucking garbage

[normal hollow]

no i hate fish

[fallow bramble]

I'll make SDM_0's Stuff for your game

[gilded vortex]

What’s wrong

[gray cove]

Why’s modding chat dead recently

[runic halo]

too busy modding.

[normal hollow]

with what? like, what didnt work?

[gray cove]

People got lives

[full edge]

American Holiday

[unborn plover]

Not sure why

[gray cove]

Ohh

[unborn plover]

Im spriting some sprites rn

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[normal hollow]

american joke

[gilded vortex]

Maybe people will come back when the update drops

[gray cove]

Dude that’s

[hard plank]

hewwo

[gilded vortex]

:3

How are you Aiko

[unborn plover]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm proud of how I managed to make female joker cards that actually fit in the Balatro's art style:

[normal hollow]

oh i have one that has two new effects i never did before with my mechanics and neither worked
one was to make it become a tuner which i thought i would be as easy as changing that boolean but no for some reason
the other was returning a banished card

the tuner one might have worked but didnt update the ui, i didnt have time to test it

[unborn plover]

I wonder what Ness would think about this

[harsh glacier]

ness? like from earthbound

[unborn plover]

The guy who made a reskin of the jokers but female

I mean the reskin he did is good but...
It looks like he turned them into anime girls rather than female jokers...

[normal hollow]

i know what you're trying to say but it's funny that it implies anime girls are not female

[tranquil vessel]

lmao

[azure dagger]

link?

[fair thistle]

aren't they like cats

i forgot

[unborn plover]

....that's not what was it implied

What I mean is that the style he did is not coherent to the Balatro's art style

Making the reskin kinda... not fitting

[spiral monolith]

audio swapping

[normal hollow]

yeah i didnt meant that's what you were trying to imply i just thought the wording was funny

[unborn plover]

Ah, fair enough

[gilded vortex]

Isn’t that what a reskin is for

[spiral monolith]

im not good at pixel art myself, infact i just got into it for balatro

[gilded vortex]

If the reskin is in the same style, you have vanilla Balatro for that

[spiral monolith]

and i think im doing fine so far

i forgot to remove the base sprite for scary face

[unborn plover]

..........that's not the same thing

[gilded vortex]

What is it then?

[unborn plover]

Making a mod of female jokers that still preserve some art aspects of Balatro is still a reskin.

Wait a sec

Oh I get what you mean

Ok so wait

Before you say anything

[unborn plover]

Yes, it's fair that it's still a reskin but you gotta specify what your reskin actually is.
By just adding the "female" option you'd normally think that the jokers will be the same but female, well what I saw from Ness was a whole different thing.

[torn urchin]

I like Balatro

[unborn plover]

90º?

[fair thistle]

89° /j

[gilded vortex]

What about Teto

[fair thistle]

forgot a layer hold awn

[torn urchin]

I love Teto don't get it twisted

[unborn plover]

Fatass Teto my beloved

[woven orchid]

i need cute deck skins

[fair thistle]

Red turns into teto blue turns into miku

[normal hollow]

i use touhou playing cards with touhou jokers and touhou consumables

[misty snow]

can u mod on 1.0.1o?

[normal hollow]

yes

[fair thistle]

another bored post; 135 degree rotated tarot cards
"The Fool..."

fuckin guess what it does

[misty snow]

smods wont load tho for some reason

[woven orchid]

create the last used 135 degree rotated tarot then rotate it -1 degrees

[fair thistle]

funny

[grand shadow]

tarot

[fair thistle]

then there's 225 degree rotated tarots and 315 degree rotated tarots

[grand shadow]

i wonder what thoses could do

[fair thistle]

and then there's "Rotated Tarot Cards"

The Fool!?!?!?...

[grand shadow]

the what !??!?!??!!!

[fair thistle]

they just spin, they aren't rotated in any specific way

[grand shadow]

guess what

[fair thistle]

there isn't enough spinning stuff in balala tbh

[grand shadow]

guess what

[fair thistle]

hrh

[grand shadow]

meow

[normal hollow]

is the lovely console opening with the game?

[misty snow]

yes

[normal hollow]

can i see your mods folder

[misty snow]

dmed u it

[grand shadow]

you know you can send it here

im pretty sure that at this point aiko has the exact coordinates of every individual in the chat

[woven orchid]

i hope aiko has MY location!

[grand shadow]

oh yes please!

what

who said that

[woven orchid]

[grand shadow]

i think im going crazy

[woven orchid]

uuuh do i work on vallkarri or play Atlyss

[grand shadow]

i should gamble some more to prevent that

[woven orchid]

do not do that

that would be bad

[grand shadow]

whyyyyy 😦

i have shown you my gambling addiction

please respond

[woven orchid]

!?

[umbral pilot]

been a while since I've seen a lovely bug

[grand shadow]

ok, im bored, wich mod should i work on : garbshit or jojomod

garb or jojomod

[umbral pilot]

lovely

I need you to work on the debug events system

[grand shadow]

❌

nop

[umbral pilot]

needs to plug into patch application so we can get info on patch application deltas

that way we can hook it up to a ui and make people happy

start work right now thanks

[grand shadow]

like i said to the last person who showd me a code screen :

"thats a lot of words, too bad i dont care"

[umbral pilot]

you dont need to be able to read

I have a lovely codebase audiobook that I can send you

[grand shadow]

please dont

[grand shadow]

?

[gray lark]

Does anyone know which mods invert boss blinds?

[grand shadow]

nop

check your mod list

and go to "additions" or whatever its called

[zenith loom]

that would be astronomica with exadversum

i dont know why its doing that without exadversum present though

[solar sandal]

what deck do you have rn

[gray lark]

This happens on any deck

But I was using erratic here

[solar sandal]

oh

weird

[zenith loom]

yeah thats really weird

[gray lark]

To be fair

[zenith loom]

exadversum's calculate function is somehow going off without it being present

is there any other recorded cases of something like that happening?

[gray lark]

Hmm

I can play a round I guess

See if anything shows up

[zenith loom]

or did i somehow do some really weird shit

this is the code

[wind token]

Hi chat

[gray lark]

Okay so all of my mods right now are;

[See txt file below]

Is that too spammy?

Should I trim it down?

[zenith loom]

hm

[wind token]

Put it into text file

[wind token]

also these pancakes are really good

[zenith loom]

there is a LOT that could be causing this

[grand shadow]

jojomod it is

[vivid flame]

mods that might actually do it

Astronomica
Boss Jokers
Buffoonery
Entropy
Finity
Galdur
Glitch's Backlog
!!! lovely !!!
Opandoras 
Prism
Revo's Vault
RiftRaft
Sarcpot
Silly Seals```

[terse portal]

too unbiased
make it 98 garb and 2 jojo

[vivid flame]

jojoshit

[grand shadow]

but garb is 90% done

[torn urchin]

Woah now

[grand shadow]

and jojo, well uh

[vivid flame]

jojo as in jjba or as in jojo siwa

[torn urchin]

Jjba probably

[grand shadow]

what the hell is a jojo siwa

[torn urchin]

Also I don't think ANYONE wants to admit they are making a Jojo Siwa Mod

[grand shadow]

whats that

is it that bad ?

[torn urchin]

The girl who made Karma

[grand shadow]

?

[vivid flame]

no im js trollin

[terse portal]

ok but it could be 100

[grand shadow]

what is that

god

im scared

[torn urchin]

A creature

[vivid flame]

your algorithm have now been marked for death

ur algorithms will feature more content alike jojo siwa

🥀

[torn urchin]

Nah

I win

[vivid flame]

(idk how bad is her content but idc)

[torn urchin]

This was her back then

But then she went emo

[grand shadow]

ok, so since garb is on a break, does anyone want the early acces dev build ultra hd 4k exclusive new texture ?

[torn urchin]

Cause Karmas a Bitch

Should've known better

[grand shadow]

kill

self

thatnk you

[torn urchin]

Sir yes Ma'am

[grand shadow]

?!

[torn urchin]

Something I say

[vivid flame]

happy july 5th to all amrericans

[distant badge]

hi chat

[grand shadow]

meow

hiii

[torn urchin]

Meow

[grand shadow]

bc they are almost done

[distant badge]

meow

[grand shadow]

is thata yes

or a no

[vivid flame]

i dont have balatro yet but sure 🚎 (i have reinstalled windows)

[distant badge]

that was a meow (no)

[frigid mica]

I kinda wish I’ve been able to play with pooperworx because it kinda got the sloppy feel like the PTUCE mod for Pizza Tower.

[grand shadow]

aw man 😦

[agile locust]

i was on ante 0 for like 8 rounds till i got everything (cryptid mod)

[frigid mica]

Do they still have deprecated builds?

[grand shadow]

i mean, i have every file of the mod..

but i wont share

[vivid flame]

i dont encourage it but i think there might be some on archive.org? idk

be careful tho

[frigid mica]

Fuck.

Guess I’ll never have a “what could’ve been” moment.

[vivid flame]

there is no guarantee that someone did not alter the mod to add some

"features"

[grand shadow]

ok, do you plan on playing garbshit mod ?

[vivid flame]

sure

[grand shadow]

ok

[vivid flame]

even if it has xChips

[grand shadow]

so do you want the new textures

[vivid flame]

mayhaps?

[grand shadow]

its not a mod overhaul, its a shitpost version

[vivid flame]

mayhaps

[grand shadow]

pluh do you want them or not

[vivid flame]

Sure

[frigid mica]

Jen’s Almanac… more like Jork’s Almanork with their… Noise and Peppino jokers ok oh my god…

[brisk seal]

hi

[distant badge]

hello mathguy

[brisk seal]

what's the talk of the time

[latent crescent]

By default, speedup is hold Alt and use mouse wheel. Cannot be used with Multiplayer installed tho

[vivid flame]

replcaing the end with "ork" is def a cryptid feature in a new way
instead of M at beginning its ork at end

[grand shadow]

here ya go

[vivid flame]

🙏

[frigid mica]

If anyone could make an off brand Jen’s almanac, they would be my hero

[grand shadow]

i want feedback

[brisk seal]

what does that mean?

[vivid flame]

that d at the end looks like a O

[brisk seal]

cuz other cryptid addons exist

[vivid flame]

Repainteo

[brisk seal]

Entropy for instance

[vivid flame]

yknow there is no copyright at big numbers right

if u want ^^ stuff uhm

[jaunty galleon]

i wish there was so that i’d stop seeing it

[vivid flame]

i think there might be mods to saciate that

[frigid mica]

Do I look like I could do that??

[distant badge]

{500}500 mult, instantly ends the run

[vivid flame]

Lfg

[jaunty galleon]

hey jude based

[distant badge]

1 in 3 chance this joker instead breaks one of your fingers in real life

[vivid flame]

Yo dont talk on my boy 1e#1000

[frigid mica]

I can barely manage my own assortment of custom created jokers

[harsh glacier]

hi mx grab bag what do you think of tiny exponential mult

[jaunty galleon]

bad

[frigid mica]

If Jen was that bad, i should’ve been there to try it out

[vivid flame]

jen was not that bad

[brisk seal]

i am unsure what you meant

by "off brand Jen’s almanac"

[vivid flame]

yh me too

[jaunty galleon]

doesn’t make intuitive sense for quick calculations, easy for e calculations but if i’m seeing e numbers regularly i don’t wanna play the mod

[grand shadow]

pretty sure it mean "steal assets and remake the mod"

[frigid mica]

A copy of it but everything is changed to look different

[brisk seal]

that's just stealing, which is pretty rude

[frigid mica]

Fair enough

I feel like I’m reliving my old days in another community.

[harsh glacier]

you don't wanna be the type of guy stealing a mod that already has stolen content already

[vivid flame]

had

[jaunty galleon]

yeah because it’s dead

i’m sure there was more stolen shit jen got away with lol

[distant badge]

im gonna steal jokers from a mod i never released

[vivid flame]

i doubt so

[frigid mica]

Makes sense.

[full edge]

Also, there's plenty of truly unbalanced mods out there. Mayhem and Cryptposting will both get you into hashtags quickly enough

[zenith loom]

try entropy too if you want something actually well designed while still being stupidly unbalanced

and if you like entropy try astronomica

cryptposting is neat but not very well designed imo

[full edge]

It's kinda why I recommended it, in this case, haha

[frigid mica]

Send me a catalogue of cryptid addons I might wanna look into

[brisk seal]

Entropy is the 1st one besides Polterworx i've heard about

[zenith loom]

i am not excited for the age of polterlikes 😭

[frigid mica]

What exactly is the reason why polter is frowned upon? I hear it’s because it’s unbalanced but I’m wise enough to know that’s not just the reason.

[grand shadow]

its not that

[distant badge]

stolen assets and tons of legendaries i think

[grand shadow]

yeah

[zenith loom]

nah being unbalanced is actually pretty well liked, mostly its because pwx's design philosophy is kinda hard to digest for most people, and also the aformentioned stolen assets

[harsh glacier]

polterworx is

• not good
• horrible from a game design standpoint
• stolen assets and concepts

[grand shadow]

and then IM the bad guy for saying that i was in their discord to see it fall appart

[harsh glacier]

you CAN make batshit insanity fun

[frigid mica]

Design philosophy?

[harsh glacier]

polterworx is not that

[zenith loom]

like

game design

its just not designed well

[latent crescent]

It's not fun

[frigid mica]

My mod’s design philosophy is basically “create hyperfixation based jokers”

[zenith loom]

but of course theres no reason anybody should be hating on someone for liking it

but disliking the mod itself has a lot of justification for it

[frigid mica]

polterworx vs yahimod

[grand shadow]

yahimod

[distant badge]

challenger deep

i was going to say something about chdp's design philosophy

but my enter key is directly next to my apostrophe key

[grand shadow]

whats a chdp

[distant badge]

^

[zenith loom]

idk anything about that mod

[vivid flame]

u have to reroll a lot in late game to get rare jokers
solution? make rerolling worse and punish player

[full edge]

yahimod has a lot of charm, just because it's so clearly full of passion for the specific shitposts it aims for, haha. I'd quit gaming if I had to play it more than once, though

[zenith loom]

fun fact i used to actually play almanac

when i first got into balatro

[distant badge]

i briefly had it installed

[zenith loom]

and i liked it

[runic halo]

yahimod

[zenith loom]

astronomica was conceptualized as an almanac addon before i found out you werent allowed to make addons for it

anyways as i played almanac i just

[frigid mica]

Polterworx vs bustedbuffoons

[zenith loom]

found it less and less fun

it was genuinely a chore to keep playing the mod

then i discovered entropy and never looked back

[vivid flame]

❓

[full edge]

But have we considered JoyousSpring?

[vivid flame]

jake(or whatever his boxer brother) paul vs elderly type battle

[frigid mica]

The mod I’m making

[vivid flame]

no that was a blunder

the comparison was a blunder

[distant badge]

?

[frigid mica]

Oh

[sleek granite]

consider joyousspring

[frigid mica]

Well I’m going outside.

[zenith loom]

i dont know much about joyousspring

but the creator is awesome

[sleek granite]

it is the yugioh mod ig

[vivid flame]

i dont know joyousspring nor its creator sadly

[wind token]

Hi chat

[distant badge]

squid game balatro

[lunar sluice]

easiest way to do this is literally just do what tboi does but again imo

but there are also other ways

[fallow bramble]

Noita

[zenith loom]

what is tboi

[fallow bramble]

binding of isaac

[zenith loom]

ah

[full edge]

I think it's a transgender man?

[zenith loom]

i think i watched markiplier play that once

i did not care for it

[fallow bramble]

Entropy reference??

[terse portal]

🖐️ 🤚

[formal orchid]

empres of light turned into the moon and handed me my ass

[zenith loom]

ive genuinely never liked roguelikes

like its actually an anomaly that i even like balatro

[solar sandal]

meow mrow

[terse portal]

Balanomaly

[zenith loom]

all my favorite games are extremely story driven

omori, oneshot, god of war, skyrim, undertale

and then you just have

balatro

its weird

[harsh glacier]

i like videogames

[terse portal]

I also like video games

[zenith loom]

ive never really considered myself much of a gamer tbh

im horrible at most games

like

below average on every game i play

i play most games either for the story or for the social aspect (bloons, for example)

but balatro doesnt fit into either

[fallow bramble]

Lies you're legendary at the dropper

[gray cove]

I like pirating videogames

[latent crescent]

💀

[gray cove]

/j

My games are legit

[snow rune]

Help

[sleek granite]

lovely 1.0 leak

[harsh glacier]

android

#📜・modding-rules rule 4

[wary brook]

Would this be the right channel to ask about crashes I'm dealing with?

[full edge]

Yup

[sleek granite]

as long as thwyre on pc i guess

[wary brook]

They are

Hold on, lemme get a screenshot of one of them

Finally, I kept losing them

[limber sandal]

there's games that do this for me too, weirdest one is i like the prototype to autonauts more than the actual full release of autonauts, that's like one of the only games i like from the factory genre, lots of games can do this, not much of an anomaly

[limber sandal]

that's their os wdym

they use android on pc like wdym

[fallow bramble]

Can you go into your Mod folder, into Cryptid, in Cryptid.lua, and take a screenshot on what's at line 169?

[wary brook]

Ok

[full edge]

I haven't played with it myself, but coed arcanum is the outdated version, no? I thought the maintained version was redux arcanum

[fallow bramble]

True

[wary brook]

the SMODS one is line 169 exactly

[fallow bramble]

It's possible whatever object it's trying to load doesn't work

Do you crash on start up?

[wary brook]

Yeah

It worked earlier

[fallow bramble]

What did you change/update?

[wary brook]

I added a few other mods

They also didn't work so I got rid of them

[lunar sluice]

SMODS[set] is returning a table but why

something has a wrong object_type

and or

something is setting SMODS[set] to a table

[wary brook]

That's the code around it

[lunar sluice]

it might just be codex arcanum being outdated but idk enough to say if thats the answer or not

[wary brook]

It worked earlier and arcanum was in there

[lunar sluice]

idk

[wary brook]

Eh, at least the oneshot cards work

[zinc terrace]

would this be a bit overpowered or do I lower the +mult/chips?
only syngery i can think of is this + ride the bus

[deft ore]

why would this synergize with rtb

seems fine though

[zinc terrace]

discard a bunch of jacks and upgrade this
then + mult then X mult?

[wary brook]

Nvm, just re unzipped everything and it worked for whatever reason

[sleek granite]

i think you mean hit the road not ride the bus

[brazen sigil]

hi

i made a modloader lol

my brain hurts

😭

is chat dead?

[grand geode]

:krisdog:

[brazen sigil]

wth

[solar sandal]

meow

[fair thistle]

chat assumed to be dead post The Fool...

[lone ridge]

guys what do you think of this joker? (only added this today so it's only at 10 rn💀 )

[dire trail]

finally managed to get the funny game reset mod working

[fair thistle]

amount*(log(amount)+1)

[solar sandal]

135 degree rotated tarot card???

[fair thistle]

I forgot what log does isn't that logarithm

[fair thistle]

yes

[solar sandal]

Wow

[dire trail]

the game now successfully restarts when you enter a run

thanks to aikoyori for helping me get it working

i really should fuck around more with having stuff restart the game

[vernal hare]

i smelt sonic

[weary mountain]

mmmmmmmmm

[fair thistle]

"shadow why do you need my passport"

[vernal hare]

guys look at my sticker

[weary mountain]

Why did you smelt sonic he's not food

[normal hollow]

😦

[fair thistle]

that's it. xchips your balala

[weary mountain]

Very useless

[sleek granite]

wh-

i just

added payas mod why is joyousspring????

[fair thistle]

retriggers itself. +1 chips

[normal hollow]

misew had the same crash
paya's might be messing with load_file?

[weary mountain]

No it only retriggers itself when it's triggered lol

[fair thistle]

so if you managed to trigger it it would just like crash the game or something right ?

softlock ?

[sleek granite]

oh

[weary mountain]

No i couldn't get it to work :( ( like that)

[sleek granite]

you load a file you gitignore :v

[fair thistle]

shadow the hedgehog

[normal hollow]

no thats on purpose

[sleek granite]

yea i get it

i also now understand why it may be exploding :v

[sleek granite]

so weird tho

the only change pta makes to load_file is incrementing a global

and it's after the line that would return that error anyway

[normal hollow]

proabably the multi rank stuff again

[sleek granite]

oh

yeah i just got there too

man i just wanna play with payamod

[normal hollow]

i love quantum ranks

[sleek granite]

oh

wow i see yeah

[teal sky]

meowww

[normal hollow]

hi corobo

[teal sky]

hiii

how are u :3

[normal hollow]

im doing very good wbu

[grand geode]

hi doing very good wbu i'm myst

[teal sky]

im doing okii
just trying to debug a couple things before i release another mod

[round ore]

looking for some QOL mods

[solar sandal]

meow

[round ore]

whats the one that gives you 8x

[teal sky]

bashing head against wall slowly

[normal hollow]

i love ui

[teal sky]

theyre defined
theyre in the correct class
it has to be regarding func because it doesnt crash when its replaced
func doesn't have any nil values
still crashes

wait

[latent crescent]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1270746376312979456 probably will cover all your needs

[teal sky]

if this works i am going to cry