⚙・modding-general

[jaunty galleon]

first time i’ve had someone tell me personally to play grab bag

[cyan cedar]

what if it was dit pyrc and .. umm,..

[fair thistle]

just because cryptid is numberslop and its "the balatro mod" doesnt mean youre forced to play cryptid

[normal hollow]

can i share this on the js discord

[cyan cedar]

type shizz

[grand geode]

the javascript discord???

[sleek granite]

i didnt know there was one ! :o i'll get there myself

[hard plank]

guys my joker retriggers 572 times is that good i have triple chad with oil lamp

[plush hound]

your partner is always the wan partner

[normal hollow]

they love yugioh there

[hard plank]

retriggering jimbo

[grand geode]

based

[normal hollow]

link is in the mod menu :3

[viscid minnow]

why is pissandshittium common

[cyan cedar]

has anybody put uno carsd in yet

[sleek granite]

but uhhh

[plush hound]

polterworx

[sleek granite]

maybe when it works lol !

[viscid minnow]

polterworx got murderd

[hard plank]

already rebalanced to just ^1.1

[plush hound]

rest in peace

can we get 10 likes

[viscid minnow]

okay good

[plush hound]

and comment rip

[viscid minnow]

how does that mistake happen

[hard plank]

i wanted the value to be ^^^1.01 but one of the mods round numbers to only have 2 significant figures

[grand geode]

yeah it's called steamodded

[whole nova]

i had a super fun run with cryptid and my mod earlier, these two together are crazy lol

[jaunty galleon]

not really the point i’m making, of course nobody’s holding a gun to my head and making me play cryptid. i’m saying it’s an extremely bad first impression for balatro modding and almost every mod in the space is nothing like it. people often see/play cryptid as their first mod and think that balatro mods are by and large a similar experience but they’re not

[whole nova]

i enjoy numberslop from time to time...

[hard plank]

i don't think steamodded is the culprit?

[whole nova]

then i was miraculously lucky enough to get a goddamn soul and perkeo so orbit left the picture

[solar sandal]

no thats boring

[sleek granite]

guh how the hell is this card not working

[hard plank]

cg was able to have ^1.01

[grand geode]

smods truncate locvars to 2 decimal places

but idk

[hard plank]

it's not just loc vars

[lost bolt]

Play my Balatro Mods

[grand geode]

ok blame talisman

[hard plank]

the intended value didn't get calculated

it's probably Cryptid

[plush hound]

cryptid again

[grand geode]

god i remember the last time i actually played cryptid i spent 3 hours farming econ with crypto coin because tournament

[whole nova]

complaining about the topic at hand will not change the topic at hand

[grand geode]

miserable experience

[sleek granite]

i think i dont understand how js revives work

[normal hollow]

whats the issue

[whole nova]

java script

[sleek granite]

lightpulsar is whiffing

[normal hollow]

what context is that

[sleek granite]

sent to gy for the lightpulsar dragon itself

[jaunty galleon]

afaik a not insignificant portion of the cryptid dev team is, to their credit, pretty receptive when it comes to feedback

[wide mulch]

play my balatro mods (i have no balatro mods)

[sleek granite]

oh yknow what im not getting to the revive at all oops

[whole nova]

nono i meant like, complaining about the fact the topic is cryptid isn't gonna change the topic lol

[cyan cedar]

jimbo slender man

[hard plank]

aikoyori's shenanigans

[jaunty galleon]

oh nvm then

[wide mulch]

goodmornings shenanigans

[normal hollow]

this is what fallen angel does

if context.joy_sent_to_gy and context.joy_from_field and context.joy_card == card then
    JoyousSpring.revive_pseudorandom(
        { { monster_archetypes = { "Eldlich" } } },
        'j_joy_eld_angel',
        false,
        { negative = true }
    )
end

[jaunty galleon]

pwx is gone we can only complain about crytpid and talisman now

[sleek granite]

see thats why i thought it was the revive

[hard plank]

my mod is called aikoyori's shenanigans 😭

[sleek granite]

im in if context.joy_sent_to_gy and context.joy_card and context.joy_card == card and context.joy_from_field then

[wide mulch]

i will make a new mod called goodmonrings shenanigans and it will be a direct rip-off

it will just be a fork with the mod metadata changed

[limber sandal]

yall fw my joker lineup?

[normal hollow]

that looks like it should work unless i broke something

[sleek granite]

i was paranoid about how context.joy_card being nil works

[hard plank]

i fucking hate it tbh

[limber sandal]

agreed, could use a joker card

[sleek granite]

ill try eldlich whats-its-name see if that works

wait

its because its being tributed

selling it triggers it correctly

*bashes face on desk*

[normal hollow]

oh uhhh my bad :p

[fair thistle]

it brokey

owch

[cyan cedar]

green needle

[hard plank]

you will have to redraw and redesign everything because it wouldn't be my mod anymore

[plush hound]

what deck is this

[fair thistle]

(if youre wondering it reverts to X whenever i play a hand

[fair thistle]

redefined

[hard plank]

and you probably won't get half the references

[plush hound]

entr?

[fair thistle]

yeah

[cyan cedar]

im gonna amke a mod called "balatro" and it will be a deck building roguelike with jokers

[fair thistle]

balatro in balatro

[jaunty galleon]

already taken PAL

[fair thistle]

😮‍💨

[plush hound]

IP address?

they know where i p?

[cyan cedar]

icup

[normal hollow]

oh i see why

[fair thistle]

Numberslop - Sets ALL operators to =, conditions on jokers have to be met 5 times in a row for them to trigger, sells rightmost joker if a modded joker is bought

[cyan cedar]

did they actually release that in europe

[jaunty galleon]

me when i find the guy who aeroplane hamburgered my sister

[plush hound]

not the bond burg

[sleek granite]

so would i just have to also check for tributed context then

[cyan cedar]

1 of 4 chance to kill you (The Funeral excluded)

[normal hollow]

i will see if i can fix it but yeah

[plush hound]

NTSC and PAL joker

one of which is unlocked based on region

[fair thistle]

1 in 1 chance to punish you for existing (literally modded blinds)

[plush hound]

with its own pros and cons

i think its possible with luasteam

fetching the user's country data

[jaunty galleon]

it would be cool to tap into your system time and have a joker that switches between moon and sun or something

[plush hound]

there is a mod for clock

just use that

[sleek granite]

MTG werewolves

[fair thistle]

time based joker that forces you to wait until midnight

[plush hound]

actually

you do that

[cyan cedar]

+30 mult if you are not currently residing in the united states

[plush hound]

it sounds "vanilla"

[cyan cedar]

soundseth.... interestinge

[jaunty galleon]

nah nothing major

[plush hound]

this is too funny to not be implemented

hold on

let me atleast try

[jaunty galleon]

just like “light/dark suits give +20 chips”

[brave spoke]

Hi there. How can I join the cryptid server? Or get the cryptid mod?

[plush hound]

👅

[fair thistle]

light/dark suits give ^^2 chisps

[plush hound]

discord.gg/cryptid

[wide mulch]

if night: +50 chips. if day: +10 mult

[plush hound]

NO COUNTRY CHECK

[sleek granite]

shit

[plush hound]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cyan cedar]

if the moon is full or in a waxing stage, retrigger every played card ever

[sleek granite]

actually i dont think checking for tribute context works either

[wind token]

whar

[plush hound]

non USA joker will not be real

[wide mulch]

give +1 mult per steam level the user has

[sleek granite]

the context is after the card is removed from G.jokers it seems so it cant trigger :v

[cyan cedar]

user.getPlayerHouseAdress()

type shiz

[sleek granite]

also i should probably be in dev or joyousspring chat lol

[fair thistle]

new value; chisps. they get set to 0 every blind. +2 chisps per card scored. they do nothing

[cyan cedar]

are we watching this video ?

[jaunty galleon]

i will now be calling every mod i don’t like either “vanillaslop” or “numberslop”

[cyan cedar]

chips (edible): +2 mult for every chip currently in digestive system

[wide mulch]

can someone make a mod for British people that changes every instance of the word chips to crisps?

would really appreciate it

[fair thistle]

exactly. everything is slop because people are negative

:3

[cyan cedar]

brits taking everything these days 💔

[fair thistle]

hey

censor br*tish

[jaunty galleon]

people give +1 handsize!?

[fair thistle]

I mean people have hands

[cyan cedar]

negative gives you an extra slot stupid

[plush hound]

X1.5 Mult for each person you added on Steam

[cyan cedar]

(referring to the grab bag)

(person)

[jaunty galleon]

not if it’s on a playing card

[fair thistle]

people saying numberslop like vanillaslop doesn't exist boi you REFUSE to push boundaries

[fair thistle]

Compounding?

[wide mulch]

please make this

[sleek granite]

i push boundaries without being numberslop

[cyan cedar]

"boi" in the big 25 🥀

[fair thistle]

that's subjective

[plush hound]

i will

im gonna do it

ALSO

[jaunty galleon]

push boundaries here is code for dogshit balance

[cyan cedar]

x4 mult if you have the shadow mantle in your save file

[wide mulch]

+100 mult if you've added me as a friend on steam

[fair thistle]

it really isn't, it's mostly that cryptid made "Unbalanced" just mumberslop

[plush hound]

plotting something mischevious........

[sleek granite]

i add two card layers, the concept of a graveyard (thank you myst), petting cards (thank you bepis), seals for jokers,

i push boundaries

[fair thistle]

When really, pushing the boundaries shouldn't include all numberslop

[jaunty galleon]

real

[fair thistle]

Yes, your mod does push boundaries, yes your mod is good

[cyan cedar]

its been a month now

[plush hound]

PLUEY

[whole nova]

the 4th of july has gotta be the most lame american holiday bro

[fair thistle]

I just don't play it cuz talisman is a heap of garbage

I might play it again without the other 2 mods

[plush hound]

this would be annoying

[hushed saffron]

-9999 mult if i dont like you (manually hardcoded list)

[cyan cedar]

idk man blowing everything up and watching it from afar seems to be our thing

[fair thistle]

*3 mult if your file name is unchanged

[jaunty galleon]

my mod is talisman-compatible, not dependent lol

[whole nova]

well yeah but still lame...

[cyan cedar]

type shizz

dogs tremble when they see the calendar

[fair thistle]

well Autumn's isn't

Sadly :(

[jaunty galleon]

oh nvm

[sleek granite]

[fair thistle]

I would 100% use it as a sidekick mod as well if it wasn't incompatible, or if there was another compatible talisman replacement (never)
(I shouldn't say cryptid, sometimes I don't play with cryptid)

[wide mulch]

I say give America back to the Br*tish 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[cyan cedar]

joker.ogg: plays the world revolving for the rest of this run

[cyan cedar]

give garbage to the trash

[jaunty galleon]

yeah let’s show ‘em free* healthcare

*takes 5 years to see a doctor

[wide mulch]

Jokes on you I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow 🇬🇧🇬🇧

[lunar sluice]

you can get talisman to be compatible already, the root of the problem here isnt the specific implementation its that the lua version is too old youre never gonna make talisman but good

go install luajit2 or something

[fair thistle]

nono

[cyan cedar]

yeah i know you cant relate th3 0ne #personal

[fair thistle]

autumn circus just has talisman as an incompatibility

[lunar sluice]

well yes just edit it out

its just a text file

[jaunty galleon]

not my fault they don’t give doctors appointments to transgenders

[cyan cedar]

true.....

[fair thistle]

ok... I guess?

[lunar sluice]

this is like a non issue with a known solution idk what to tell you

[fair thistle]

ill try to

[cyan cedar]

what are those cards brochacho 🥀

[sleek granite]

let them cook

[jaunty galleon]

4 of Triangles

[plush hound]

development resumes indefinitely

[cyan cedar]

0 of spades

[plush hound]

it needs steamworks sdk

[whole nova]

never stop programming

[deft ore]

why do you have a 0 of spades

[plush hound]

you cant tell me what to do>:(

[jaunty galleon]

almost as good as the “161 of Hearts” or the “King of Nothing”

real modded cards btw

[whole nova]

luasteam seems sick actually

[fair thistle]

there should be a pi of pis

[lunar sluice]

nil of nil...

[cyan cedar]

jesus: if it is currently easter convert all river cards into wine cards

[whole nova]

king of nothing goes crazy

[jaunty galleon]

ROR2 REFERENCE??!?!?!??!?!????!?!

[plush hound]

oh my poor feed..

i should stop watching dramas

[whole nova]

i have that game on my account but never downloaded it

[whole nova]

this shit is genuinely rotting your brain

[cyan cedar]

turkey tom infestation

[jaunty galleon]

jerky tom

[whole nova]

turkey tom is a fucking horrid person

[plush hound]

fork found in kitchen

[cyan cedar]

water found in wine

(jesus referecne)

[jaunty galleon]

yeah go watch home grown organic slop

[plush hound]

i know this is BAD

but like

[whole nova]

jesus back after 3 days (jesus reference)

[cyan cedar]

like the ViperDemon youtube channel

[plush hound]

atleast i know im not a terrible person

like THEM

[cyan cedar]

or maybe the ViperDemon youtube channel it has deltarune (jingles keys) deltarune

[jaunty galleon]

Remix my Delta Runes

[plush hound]

collect my runes

delta

[cyan cedar]

lets ride the wing ding coaster

[lunar sluice]

the player is obviously gaster

[jaunty galleon]

Screaming Ape Theory is gonna happen in Chapter 5 trust

and Weird Route is Chara’s Fault

[lunar sluice]

player gaster theory is real trust

[cyan cedar]

IT WAS CHARA!!! THAT WAS CHARA!!! I DIDNT DO THAT!!!

[jaunty galleon]

always bet on ralsei knight

[lunar sluice]

papyrus knight:

[hushed saffron]

go my cards

[fair thistle]

i normally dont edit code at all so do i delete the talisman or just the whole conflicts thing

[cyan cedar]

entry number 17: +5 mult for each interval of 10 under 100 on your screen brightness

[lunar sluice]

just delete that line

[plush hound]

why do we exist

[whole nova]

you can never wash it all away.

[plush hound]

hype moments and aura

[cyan cedar]

hype moments

FUCK

[plush hound]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

type shit

[lunar sluice]

-100 aura

[whole nova]

we exist because its cool :)

[cyan cedar]

can you swear in here

[plush hound]

D:

[plush hound]

heck

[lunar sluice]

no theyll murder you on sight

theyll take you out back

[whole nova]

currently at a fireworks stand this holiday is laaaaame

[cyan cedar]

i love sendding this but i need it to be more bite sized

hang on

[jaunty galleon]

this might be the greatest Susie Deltarune expression in The Game

Tobey Fox Deltarune

[ornate bone]

There's better Susie facial expressions

[sleek granite]

this one is right here

[cyan cedar]

she alwasy says something stupid as Fuck along side it however

why is it still the same size again

oh forget it

[jaunty galleon]

it’s just crustier

[sleek granite]

because its like a billion pixels big

[fair thistle]

ts pmo i deleted one line

maybe theres 2

hold on

[plush hound]

#⚙・modding-general habitats

[random storm]

Can confirm

[cyan cedar]

perfect

[weary mountain]

Poseidon lol

[random storm]

This is the first time nxkoo has said anything right ever

[plush hound]

?????????????????????????

[lunar sluice]

nxkoo is spared for 1 extra day

[cyan cedar]

day one hater

[plush hound]

oh thank christ

get to live for another huzz

[cyan cedar]

christ ? no t. chris. kris

[plush hound]

kesus kris

[cyan cedar]

#nooticing

[fair thistle]

it still says it's conflicting. dammit

[jaunty galleon]

kris dies for our sins in chapter 7

[cyan cedar]

i remember you was conflicted

[whole nova]

actively trying not to lose my shit at this

[jaunty galleon]

FREEDOM BURGER WAR RAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[random storm]

Nothing says freedom like capitalism!

[cyan cedar]

i get to sleep in a basement ahhh no fire work

[tall yew]

i think i broke my game, it wont let me end the round

[plush hound]

be like asriel and just

[jaunty galleon]

it’s like grandma used to say, work will set you free! i LOVE capitalism !

[plush hound]

spin your fireworks

[lunar sluice]

infinity does not count as higher than 8e13 because talisman is weird like that

its probably just nan instead of infinity anyway

[jaunty galleon]

evil infinity

[lunar sluice]

if your talisman is old NaN still displays as Infinity

[plush hound]

will this get fixed

[lunar sluice]

yes

thats why i said if its old

[plush hound]

finally

[lunar sluice]

its already fixed

[whole nova]

false

[jaunty galleon]

well your talisman says I’m Old! and i’m all like YOUR TAKING TOO LONG to update it Pluey Papyrus Kni

[plush hound]

you dont count

[jaunty galleon]

puyo cards…

[plush hound]

how do i solve rouxls puzzle

shit's hard

[lunar sluice]

i mean either way

talisman treats infinity weirdly

its not super relevant

[cyan cedar]

im old!

[lunar sluice]

the issue is just that Big:compare is strange

[whole nova]

yeah i'm not woke...

[cyan cedar]

good one

big ass nose

[tall yew]

imma just start a new run, my game is stuck at 10fps as well

[ornate bone]

Puyo Puyo mod for Balatro would be nuts

[tall yew]

i got to ante 14 before shit started breaking so i consider that a win

[cyan cedar]

its.... its amazing....

[plush hound]

matpat discover fictions

[jaunty galleon]

buh

[nova elm]

dude im never doing a pity prize run again

[lunar sluice]

i fucking hate pity prize

[plush hound]

i missed her old sprites where its just her bangs

she looks badass

[cyan cedar]

well you see the slow removal of such bangs is a sign of her character growth

[plush hound]

small tails too?

[fair thistle]

Pity prize should have just more but still limited uses on non modest

[cyan cedar]

you see as she becomes more expressive she becomes more comfortable with herself hmm yes

[nova elm]

dude with one chad this thing goes boom

i got 15 chads 25 each with 5 boredom

[whole nova]

i think the bangs/scar? whatever over susie's eye is so cool looking lol

[trail berry]

:3

hello modding-chat

[spiral forge]

this is kind of a random thought that im chill saying into the void but i was thinking as i was working on my jokers that its neat how in a way all the game is communicated to you exactly the way that the jokers act, like in the sort of way where you can look at a joker and if you understand computers at all it's actually really easy to intuit how it works in the backend. i guess this is maybe only interesting in contrast to something like isaac or whatever but i love the way this game approaches teaching the player

also shoutouts to the exotic joker theme its very relaxing for the coding grind

[plush hound]

haaaaiiiiiii

[lunar sluice]

isaacs way of teaching the player is pretty wacky but tbh isaac does a pretty good job other than that

i mean

challenges are egregious

[trail berry]

holy shit is that ms. cryptid

[lunar sluice]

but thats different

[spiral forge]

i like isaac do NOT get me wrong its a great game

[plush hound]

freeze that fucking chicken

[spiral forge]

but so many items are sooo vague with what they actually do

[lunar sluice]

isaac is inspiration for me modding wise

[jaunty galleon]

the word teaching is doing a lot of legwork there lmao

[cyan cedar]

cans omeone make this a joker

[spiral forge]

maybe more directed at trinkets but

[lunar sluice]

outside of the vagueness

[trail berry]

i am now ceo of hit mod "I'm So Entropy"

[lunar sluice]

i still need to finish my super secret totally not isaac inspired idea

[spiral forge]

its super fun to set up rube goldberg machines in it im a big fan of the way that isaac can be broken

[fair thistle]

It's so eeffoc

[cyan cedar]

which is funny

[jaunty galleon]

me likey struggling for my fucking life in the video game

[teal sky]

I think that more just has to do with the genre
Balatro is a strategy game
You need to know what the items do

Once you know what the items do, figuring out how they're implemented is trivial most of the time, regardless of the game

[tall yew]

despite mods updating im never gonna remove Jen's Almanac

[lunar sluice]

isaac works a lot better when you just fuck around and find out for a little while but some things are too vague tbh

[sleek granite]

it works now !

[dire trail]

it would be funny if smods eventually got simplified down to jokers having their entire calculate decided in the config

[jaunty galleon]

good luck with that

[spiral forge]

oh for sure yeah, isaac would be a very different game if things were actually communicated to the player in the same way balatro does it

[dire trail]

dog kris

[lunar sluice]

i dont think better communication is exactly bad for isaac

i play with item descriptions on

but i think it might be a little

[cyan cedar]

who is issac

[lunar sluice]

counterproductive

for new players

earlygame stuff is better when youre just figuring it out on your own

and then turn the descriptions on

[jaunty galleon]

this being said i do like jokers that are intentionally vague

[lunar sluice]

theres a lot of stuff it tells you thats overwhelming that you dont need to know as a new player

[fair thistle]

[jaunty galleon]

like “1 in 6 chance to reel something in”

[lunar sluice]

jokers being vague is fine but if its their whole gimmick its a bad idea

cause after you use it once the gimmick is spoiled forever

[teal sky]

i think this is the most vague Joker I've made

[trail berry]

if two genderfluid people fall in love would it be gay straight or lesbian

[lunar sluice]

i dont think i have any vague jokers

[cyan cedar]

queer

[sleek granite]

<deltarune chapter 3 spoilers> is the most vague card ive made

[lunar sluice]

i do have one semi vague consumable though

[dire trail]

i think the vaguest i got was having a planet card that levels up "a certain hand" (the hand itself has no name which is why its labeled that way)

[lunar sluice]

my game isnt open rn

[cyan cedar]

vague: +? mult when... uh... idk... haha...

[lunar sluice]

object here is vague on purpose but the gimmick isnt to do with it being vague i just think its hard to convey the information meaningfully other than "idk just try it out"

[trail berry]

make sure you get the stuff

[fair thistle]

what if all cards were cats and their description was meow

[trail berry]

oh hi astro from balatro discord :3

[teal sky]

meoww

[dire trail]

"gives you a certain amount of mult when certain conditions are met"

[fair thistle]

oh yeah greetings sir cryptposting

[jaunty galleon]

i saw someone post a schrodinger’s joker with a ?? in 100 chance for 3X mult and that’s really interesting mechanically to me. there’s a set random probability that you just have to guess based on how often it seems to hit

[trail berry]

$10 on this guy's favorite tag being cat tag

[lunar sluice]

what i there was an evil joker that said it gave you xmult but actually gave you xchips

[fair thistle]

how's your supervigintation

[trail berry]

no im sir im so entropy

[solar sandal]

which mod is this btw

[trail berry]

im now +72 ascension power

[fair thistle]

if there were more cat tag jokers

[lost bolt]

i think a little vagueness is okay sometimes, like this

[fair thistle]

buti think my favorite tag is ascended money tag or whatever

[dire trail]

evil joker that says itll give you ^^^chips but instead sets your mult to 1

[lunar sluice]

=mult....

[plush hound]

wan

[cyan cedar]

fridge: food jokers and other perishables are pretty cold

[fair thistle]

/mult...

[trail berry]

if context.joker_EVIL

[jaunty galleon]

bee from yahimod is a very funny bit

[lost bolt]

one time i saw a joker that gave x3 chips and 1/3x mult

[jaunty galleon]

the Nothing Joker

[fair thistle]

EVIL 2 edition, if this joker outputs mult, output chips instead

[cyan cedar]

stove: food jokers and other perishables are hot as fuck!!!

[fair thistle]

same other way around

[sleek granite]

Balatro-UB. its short for BUB.
coming soon™

[solar sandal]

cool

[jaunty galleon]

isn’t BUB short for Balatro-UB

[dire trail]

Oven: food jokers are baked as fuuuuck

[trail berry]

holofoil +50 mult

[dire trail]

foilgraphic +10 chips

[fair thistle]

foilgraph - shows you the foil stock market

[trail berry]

polyfoil - X1.5 chips

[dire trail]

evil negative: card takes up 2 slots

[grand geode]

bulb

[trail berry]

polytive - X1.5 joker slots

[solar sandal]

holochrome x50 mult

wait no itd be x10

me when i forgor

[trail berry]

foiltive +50 joker slots

[fair thistle]

when I was talking about mixing and matching edition ts isnt what I meant

[dire trail]

multiplies mult by a multiplier of your current mult

[fair thistle]

isnt

isn't that just exponent

but like

worse

[dire trail]

multiplies your mult by a multiplier of your current mult's multiplier

[dense egret]

0:

[dire trail]

no wait i got the craziest idea

[green hatch]

Hey could a modder possibly remove the 8 character cap on the seed text box? I don’t think there’s any reason in the code for it not to work

[dense egret]

never heard anything like that

[lost bolt]

yeah there's a mod for that already i think

[dire trail]

sqrt(mult)

[fair thistle]

divides your division by a division of your current division's divide

[dire trail]

when your mult is 2 it just crashes the game

cant wait for the balatro imaginary number update

[jaunty galleon]

what is this some kind of ^0.5 Mult??

[lost bolt]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1229891707793969265

[dense egret]

wdym, imaginary numbers already exists

[green hatch]

Ty

[dire trail]

should i make upgrade cards that upgrade certain ranks in certain ways

[solar sandal]

that seems like a problem

[north cloud]

Are there any mods for mobile

[plush hound]

make it unique

[plush hound]

nah, rule breaking

#📜・modding-rules

rule 4

[north cloud]

🥲 I'm not crying

[fair thistle]

ITS PEAK

[dire trail]

wdym

[plush hound]

theres like

2 mods

that upgrades

ranks

with just chips and mult

[fair thistle]

ARE YOU SERIOUS

welp, i guess im getting infinite money

[plush hound]

hold on

pause it right there

[fair thistle]

yeah?

[dire trail]

i mean upgrades are 1 use consumables so you can technically gain multiple bonuses of different ranks by strength-ing cards of one rank to then use the upgrade card for the next rank

but in any cases the upgrades arent just base chips and base mult

[fair thistle]

i feel like the lucky hits for crash and memory leak shouldnt just let you execute ANY code i feel like it should just bring up a menu or something

[plush hound]

use this

local c = create_card("Consumables",G.consumeables,nil,nil,nil,nil,"c_entr_antithesis");c:add_to_deck();G.consumeables:emplace(c);

[fair thistle]

what does this do

[plush hound]

crash ACE spawn

[dire trail]

creates the antithesis entropy card i think

[plush hound]

and perkeo it

[peak granite]

can i make a sprite for an edition then just try to match it with the card in shaders or smth or just no?

[plush hound]

oh damn, how did you do the bottom text

[fair thistle]

correct?

[plush hound]

should be

[fair thistle]

it didnt work

im just gonna ease dollars and send myself to ante 0

[plush hound]

gruh

[wind turtle]

No, because it is Consumeables

[pastel dome]

I would also like to know how you did the "Art by Flare and Gappie text"

[wind turtle]

Also c doesn't exist.

[plush hound]

probably the reason for local c =

[fair thistle]

whatever

[hardy brook]

ask Eremel or wait for Ortalab 1.0 to come out

[dire trail]

hi smtcom

[fair thistle]

it worked

[plush hound]

caramel

[nova elm]

i have all of them

[sleek granite]

ortalab tomorrow

but uh i think you can just put a dynatext object where the badges usually are and it probably just works

[fair thistle]

i wish there was an undiscovered sticker that only appears on undiscovered jokers

[sleek granite]

sorry i was scrolled up that was to this

[pastel dome]

Dw I got you, I'll try it

[sleek granite]

trying to explain ui code in this game always sounds batshit insane

[potent portal]

^ ?

[plush hound]

im going to fucking tweak

@lunar sluice could help you

[sleek granite]

oh except i think if the text is in the badges table itll be before the mod name badge

[plush hound]

thanks

coffee

[fair thistle]

eeffoc

[potent portal]

evil cup of coffee

[ivory sinew]

live puc of eeffoc

[plush hound]

just PLEASE

[potent portal]

there's 3 pixels of crosswalk behind the truck

[sharp prawn]

im habing mod troubles again

the game crashed whenever i faced one of the math blinds

it was the aproach

[plush hound]

what a sight

[wind token]

chat,this is me coding btw

[nova elm]

hell yeah

[tropic egret]

https://youtu.be/2-IA0qxsfd0?si=sb265HnIWmC22_Zv

ARROWHEAD VIDEO

[normal hollow]

Ahead

[plush hound]

ahead

[zenith loom]

anyone know how i could diagnose the cause of this crash?

[zenith loom]

ive run into it a few times in completely unrelated scenarios

[fair thistle]

roffle ahead theory

[fair thistle]

mat from wi spor

haaaaaahahashashashahsafshsdhasdh

[harsh glacier]

https://streamable.com/un0n9q

[tall vortex]

Hmm!

[fair thistle]

aiko are you sure

aaaaahhahahahHA HHA HA HAH AH AHA HAH A HA'

[plush hound]

im adding Stake as Seal

or Stake's Stake

[fair thistle]

ante 2, no negatives

holy shit how the fuck are you supposed to gold stake this to unlock chasm 😭

[sleek granite]

skill chasm

[stark shale]

gang Nintendo went for me again

[plush hound]

huh

[sleek granite]

did your switch 2 get assassinated

[stark shale]

No

I uploaded a t shirt of Kirby to Roblox in 2019

they removed it and warned my account a month ago

they're rubbing SALT TO THE WOUND BY DOING IT AGAIN.
.

how do you remove a removed t shirt

[floral wing]

What caused this crash?

[sleek granite]

mayhem

[jaunty galleon]

is mayhem in one fucking file

no way

[stark shale]

that's jank

[zenith loom]

a true polterlike

[normal hollow]

why is everyone changing the score operator now

[fair thistle]

i just realized how tiny like 15x or 25x negative rate is when you start with NO joker slots and only a lot of hand size

[sleek granite]

its the hot new thing

[stark shale]

Talisman is so tuff

[jaunty galleon]

what has been the hot new thing in balatro modding over the months

[floral wing]

Ok, but like, how do I fix it?

[zenith loom]

my bad

i did it semi early though

[sleek granite]

hand selection limit prior to this i reckon

[zenith loom]

entropy always does things first then astronomica does it second

actually that makes it sound like im copying entropy

im not i just dont know how to do some things until ruby codes them

[sleek granite]

yeah the framework gets made and then someone else expands on it

thats how things tend to go

[jaunty galleon]

does “transforming jokers into better versions” count? i think a lot of it is coincidence because i know ennway (SuperFine!!) and i had the idea separately

[sleek granite]

Joker Evolution has been around

[jaunty galleon]

of course, fusion jokers is old asf

[sleek granite]

no like theres an actual JokerEvolution mod iirc

plus theres pokermon

[jaunty galleon]

does pokermon count

i mean that’s like. pokémon evolution

[sleek granite]

transforming jokers into better versions

[zenith loom]

looking through mayhem because i wanted to see the content, IS THAT SCOREMOD?

#astronomicadiditfirst

[sleek granite]

remember its a polterlike so its not gonna be original

[zenith loom]

mhm

[floral wing]

How do I fix this crash?

[zenith loom]

i like when other mods use score mechanics though so this is actually pretty cool

[jaunty galleon]

shattered jokers are very explicitly ripped from risk of rain 2’s void items lol, that’s the real reason they’re purple

[sleek granite]

i love void items

dlc1 was so cool

[harsh glacier]

i also implemented operator changes around this time as well

[stark shale]

phew! good thing I'm purple!

[harsh glacier]

actually it may be before entropy? idk

[jaunty galleon]

dlc2 got so much shit but it’s good now to be honest. i like the revamped items a LOT

[viscid minnow]

i did it yall. hyperbolic time chamber no match for me

[sleek granite]

i need to play dlc2 again now that they reworked stuff

[zenith loom]

uhhh

[viscid minnow]

i officially hate entropy

[harsh glacier]

im masking it

[floral wing]

Why?

[fair thistle]

No way

[viscid minnow]

look up

i went insane beating that challenge

[stark shale]

sounds like a coundienxe

coindience

coinciende

coifience

coininsiden

[plush hound]

same art different concept methink

[stark shale]

Deja Vu

[sleek granite]

🤔

[jaunty galleon]

sotv released broken too. the sots team inherited a codebase they didn’t write, and clearly were under a lot of time pressure (blame GBX execs). people just wanna blame gearbox for ruining ror2 but that’s not the whole story

[stark shale]

for the love of god I can't spell coincidence

and autocorrect helped me

thx

[zenith loom]

well then i selected a single card and mayhem stack overflow'd, time to uninstall this silly mod

[sleek granite]

yeah i just remember being underwhelmed, not like outright disappointed or cheated or whatever

[fair thistle]

I thought mayhem was a competitor and it ended up being a polterlike. Not really my speed

[zenith loom]

i dont have any reason to dislike it or anything yet so im not gonna bash it but i will say that it is not my thing

[jaunty galleon]

i have hope for dlc3, esp since they’re working with modders

it is a bit weird that they just finished up work on dlc2 and they immediately announce a new dlc but i assume that’s because they had half the team working on it while they patched up dlc2

[floral wing]

Nvm I forgot to disable Entropy

[zenith loom]

competitor to what

[fair thistle]

cryptid

[zenith loom]

ah

yeah

[fair thistle]

I saw the exattox video

[jaunty galleon]

one polterworx was enough to be frank

[sleek granite]

yeah its probably different departments mostly anyway, i'd have to guess

[stark shale]

I thought mayhem is just another cryptid HOLY SHIT

[sleek granite]

its really funny how this is like the strongest joker in my mod lmao just conceptually compared to other mods' jokers...

[zenith loom]

Astronomica isn't really a competitor to any mods, i mean its very distinct to Polterworx, has cryptid as a dependency, and is supposed to work alongside Entropy if the user so wishes, if anything, i consider it as a sort of sister-mod to Entropy, it began development around Entropy and ive taken care to make sure it doesn't step on Entropy's feet as much as possible

[plush hound]

@normal hollow how do you do the text thing while in game

is it possible for joker?

[plush hound]

to be fair, Astronomica, Entropy, Ascensio for me like an add-on for Cryptid

[zenith loom]

entropy is also what literally inspired me to start modding balatro

though ive tried to keep all my concepts my own

[plush hound]

i probably couldnt bring myself making an addon for cryptid

due to

talisman

[zenith loom]

theres gonna be a lot of similarities to stuff in entropy, but youll never catch me copying anybody

[plush hound]

you might be vagabond, you might be ride the bus

[harsh glacier]

my mod sucks

[plush hound]

but its better than being blueprint or brainstorm

[zenith loom]

wise words nxkoo

[plush hound]

this edible aint shit

[jaunty galleon]

mayhem seems like it was scientifically engineered to be the least appealing mod to me personally by the looks of it

waow i have never wanted to play a mod less

[sleek granite]

ikr !

[zenith loom]

i honestly dont think id mind the rise of Polterlikes, i just hope itll inspire people to make a genuinely well designed and worthwhile polterlike

which imo mayhem is NOT that

[wind token]

they took my nitro from me

sobbing

[jaunty galleon]

well designed
polterlike

[zenith loom]

i dont believe the concepts and philosophies in polterworx are ontologically bad

i just think they havent been pulled off well yet

not in pwx, not in mayhem

[fair thistle]

would you say Iroyokia's Playbook could come to be a good one?

[jaunty galleon]

was the philosophy for polterworx not “i’m going to add anything i want and nobody can criticise MY AWESOME MOD!!”

[sleek granite]

if any has potential it probably is iroyokia

[plush hound]

bye bye

[fair thistle]

especially since it has me in it /j

[zenith loom]

i havent gotten to go too in depth with it but i do have high hopes for it

[fair thistle]

Same

:)

[zenith loom]

Astronomica for me is sorta more of a cryptlike than anything

its intent was to expand upon cryptid while still staying true to it

[fair thistle]

Entropy and astronomica are good

[zenith loom]

though it's deviated from that a bit

i still think its good enough

[fair thistle]

They do hyperoperator though but it isn't too bad

[normal hollow]

the what

[jaunty galleon]

wasn’t iro made in spite of pwx

[fair thistle]

They did say they dislike the factorial XMult and exponential exponents

[zenith loom]

who did?

[plush hound]

WHUH WHAT THE FUCK

[fair thistle]

The Creator iirc

[zenith loom]

also i do agree, Radalingr was a mistake

[zenith loom]

😭

[stark shale]

Polterlike had potential but I aint their target audience

[zenith loom]

i am the creator

of astronomcia

[fair thistle]

o

[plush hound]

wheres my game

who took it

what the fuck

[fair thistle]

i didn't recognize your pfp

[stark shale]

holy shit ass internet

[zenith loom]

i changed it yesterday

[stark shale]

Neurosama from Aikoyori's Shenanigans

duh!

[fair thistle]

it should force close your game and delete itself /j

[stark shale]

insert you are an idiot gif

[zenith loom]

i genuinely wish i never made this joker

thats how strongly i feel about it

it completely goes against my standards and design philosophy

which i didn't have yet when i made it

[fair thistle]

If I remember, those 2 empyreans were disliked because they were do nothing jokers

[plush hound]

delete it

[zenith loom]

2?

[stark shale]

you can always give it a new effect

[zenith loom]

whats the other one

[fair thistle]

uhhhhh

I remember you talking about the light dark suit one

[zenith loom]

ohh right

this one sucks too

but itll be easy to rework

[lost bolt]

chips - mult when

[fair thistle]

honestly just rehaul radalingr, slap a new effect on it, or just... Get rid of it

I agree, rad is bad

[stark shale]

Chips √ Mult

[zenith loom]

yeah its gonna get a brand new effect eventually

[fair thistle]

It is literally THE most do nothing empyrean

[plush hound]

WAIT

HOLY SHIT THIS IS A GREAT IDEA

[fair thistle]

I'm gonna eat The Joke from cryptid

[plush hound]

HOLD ON

[zenith loom]

if smods.operator becomes a thing then absolutely

this is probably the joker im most proud of effect-wise

[fair thistle]

I agree that one is super fun

[zenith loom]

i really love aukatigi

its so simple yet so broken

[fair thistle]

I love the scaling op chips one

[stark shale]

Become Helen Keller when sold

[zenith loom]

asgard is cool

probably biased because i just finished making it but i also love this joker too

[fair thistle]

I'm gonna turn Crustulum into icing on the wall

[zenith loom]

it was so fucking hard to code

genuinely sisyphean

[fair thistle]

wooooah

that's cool

it's like the Ieros of empyreans

[wanton rapids]

then cut it

[zenith loom]

once i come up with a better effect itll be changed

[jaunty galleon]

i shot 11 grab bag jokers dead in cold blood

[harsh glacier]

anyone want perma balance

[zenith loom]

i wanna keep the factorial aspect but idk how to do that without making it boring

[jaunty galleon]

more people should do this

[fair thistle]

all values are outputted as factorial of themselves (doesn't affect any values other than OUTPUT)

+5 chips becomes +120 chips

[zenith loom]

interesting idea but that seems hell to code

[fair thistle]

fair

[zenith loom]

another billion lovely patches to astronomica

[wanton rapids]

when any joker or playing card triggers set its values to its values!

[fair thistle]

dear lord

that's even WORSE

[zenith loom]

😭

[wanton rapids]

this is a horrible design do not add that

[zenith loom]

maybe just playing cards

[wanton rapids]

one (1) hanging chad and you instantly win

[zenith loom]

having like a billion chips on a playing card is funny

[wanton rapids]

True

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[wanton rapids]

hi haya

[fair thistle]

more like 10^a billion chips

[zenith loom]

hiker if it was astronomic

[fair thistle]

true

[lost bolt]

this is not a billion but i don't know how this happened .

[harsh glacier]

perma stats are funny

[jaunty galleon]

what the fuck is Balance

[fair thistle]

factorials the deck size

[wanton rapids]

what the fluff is Balance

[fair thistle]

/j

[jaunty galleon]

is this that Zulu shit again

[harsh glacier]

plasma deck effect

[fair thistle]

what the Astro

[harsh glacier]

should probably make it lowercase now that i think about it

[zenith loom]

i really need to play your mod wtf

[wanton rapids]

so 100% balance just triggers plasma deck?

50% balance does half of the value shift?

[zenith loom]

but luajit2... itll fuck with my workflow...

[plush hound]

YEAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[torn urchin]

HOLY PEAK

[wanton rapids]

how are those two related

[jaunty galleon]

mod gone

[torn urchin]

Maybe I'll consider not killing you

[plush hound]

changing the sprite

[fair thistle]

fade out the music !!!

[plush hound]

i need to load a video

or a gif

for the scene

but it works now

[fair thistle]

Load this knife

[torn urchin]

Holy peak

[fair thistle]

Nxkoo dies in 2 hours

[fair thistle]

shouldn't it say "sends you to the void"

[wind token]

hi chat, i got a soda

[torn urchin]

No no

[plush hound]

do i look like i know english

[fair thistle]

Bark

Ruff

[torn urchin]

No Nxkoo dying today

[fair thistle]

Mrow

[torn urchin]

They made this peak

Bro gets a 1 day revival

[torn urchin]

But tomorrow their dead

[torn urchin]

WEATHERGIRL?

FROM FLAVOR FOLEY?

[fair thistle]

Weathergirl

From flavor foley.

[torn urchin]

Where's static

[fair thistle]

DIDNT YOU SEE THE NEWS TODAY

[torn urchin]

Nope

[fair thistle]

fine, I'll do butcher vanity too later

[torn urchin]

Where's raw

Uh

Can't say

Ward romance when

[zenith loom]

wtf where did luajit2 go

[torn urchin]

Died

[wanton rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1336473631483760791 ?

[zenith loom]

weird i couldnt search for it

ty

[wanton rapids]

wacky

[torn urchin]

Peak my beloved

Where you get those suits or did you make it-

[harsh glacier]

i would never make them because i suck at art

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325441781130723358

[torn urchin]

Ohhhhhhhh

Thank you tho

[stark shale]

you should bribe Ari into making b### a###### face card

[wanton rapids]

into making What

[harsh glacier]

no

[torn urchin]

What

[wanton rapids]

okay i figured it out. thank you for censoring

[torn urchin]

I get it

But what

How much tho

[harsh glacier]

https://twitter.com/GeruTine/status/1940753554207396230

Micah 🍃Big fan of Lei Heng from Limbus Company🍃 (@GeruTine)

WHAT THE HELL

X · Jul 3, 2025, 12:44 PM

[torn urchin]

Kris pet my beloved

[zenith loom]

haya it is impossible to install your mod

[wanton rapids]

thank you autumnmood autumnmoodmechanicstheautumncircus

[harsh glacier]

wym

[harsh glacier]

if you're downloading from releases don't

[zenith loom]

i never download from releases unless im specifically told to

[plush hound]

Connection terminated

[torn urchin]

Gulp

[harsh glacier]

whats preventing ya from installing my shitty mod then

[zenith loom]

i cannot tell i think its somehow unloading cryptid

github says the only requirement is latest smods

which i have

unless you mean latest release instead of latest commit

[harsh glacier]

oh not this shit again

do you have a smods folder outside your mods folder

idk

[zenith loom]

outside of my mods folder?

[tranquil vessel]

is your latest release version broken haya?

[harsh glacier]

naw its just horribly outdated

[tranquil vessel]

ah okay

[harsh glacier]

i haven't updated the mod officially yet because its not done

[zenith loom]

i think i have many? i tend to backup my mods to other places in my computer

would that be causing issues

[harsh glacier]

idk really since i wasn't able to replicate this issue myself

[tranquil vessel]

I mean what's riley's issue in the first place? Is it crashing or what

[tropic egret]

things can run outside your mods folder btw

i think it's a lovely issue

[wanton rapids]

they can What

[tropic egret]

i just trash the bad mods and suddenly everything works

[zenith loom]

yeah whenever i try to open the game for some reason my mod is crashing with this

which is not supposed to happen since the only time ive ever seen this crash is with super outdated cryptid installs

[tropic egret]

yeah try moving your backups to external drive and literally plug it out

[zenith loom]

and i have bleeding edge cryptid most of the time

[tranquil vessel]

they can WHAT

[tranquil vessel]

do you have the full crash log with mod versions etc

[tropic egret]

yeah they can

[dire trail]

does it crash with just cryptid?

[tropic egret]

or im getting the idea wrong

because i have been noticing things straight up loading outside my mods folder

and overwriting my changes

and when i delete the outside file it works

[tranquil vessel]

that doesn't sound right

[zenith loom]

also yeah it seems to be loading things OUTSIDE of my mods folder

[dire trail]

how is that even happening

[sleek granite]

lovely has gained sentience

[zenith loom]

i have an old smods here and when i delete it i get a completely different crash

[tranquil vessel]

🤨

[tropic egret]

can confirm the first time for me it happened with smods

[sleek granite]

intelligence may be far off though

[plush hound]

im gonna try

and code

video playback

for a joker

pray for me

toodles

[wanton rapids]

i think balatro has video playback

at least somewhere in the codebase

[plush hound]

yeah they do

[normal hollow]

toodles

[tropic egret]

oh that might be the issue then ig if it's loading stuff in playback

[solar sandal]

good meowvening chat

[torn urchin]

Good luck

[tropic egret]

yeah but then why the hell does it load stuff outside the mods folder

[dire trail]

is it counting the smods folder as a profile folder

[tranquil vessel]

can one of you actually make a reproducible example of it

[tropic egret]

ive tried

for one i have no idea what's causing it

i think it just like. happens

[tropic egret]

the thing is i've tried reproducing with combinations of smods and bountiful

it must be some weird stuff happening at injection time

[vale tide]

Can someone kindly tell me.how the Bakery Goods from Sdm0's stuff works? Thanks!

[tropic egret]

because i can't reproduce it until i feed it like 7 new versions if my mod

[tropic egret]

then it happens again and i get confuzzled

[dire trail]

i can think of a simple solution to loading things outside the mod folder

[zenith loom]

video demo of things loading outside of the mods folder

[tranquil vessel]

Last time I tried, they affected score etc while you hold them in your consumable slots. They have a use button, but that doesn't actually do anything

[vale tide]

Thanks for the answer. Thats what I thought too; but they didn't seem to be working all the time, or at least, indicate they were active.

[zenith loom]

every copy of lovely is personalized

[tropic egret]

yeah riley has a better example

[teal sky]

meoww

[wanton rapids]

hello corobo

[tropic egret]

i was attempting to use bountiful and smods for my recreation and it only worked a few times

[tranquil vessel]

wtf

thanks for the vid

[zenith loom]

yeah this is like

[tropic egret]

riley's seems to work because it is lovely

[zenith loom]

very consistent

[solar sandal]

meow

[dire trail]

whats the mod load priority actually

[fair thistle]

flavor foley is peak

[stark shale]

Evil Purple Store

[tranquil vessel]

can I get the full lovely log for the crash with old smods version?

[teal sky]

Apparently my internet is taking way too long to respond so im on phone nyow

[teal sky]

Hiiii

[fair thistle]

they say that my hunger's, a problem /lyr

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

balatr

[tropic egret]

tbh im just glad that i wasn't hallucinating

[tranquil vessel]

blatr am I right

[tropic egret]

thanks riley

[random storm]

nxkoo's ominous apartment:

[zenith loom]

here ya go

[tranquil vessel]

cheers

[harsh glacier]

hi lars

[tranquil vessel]

hi haya

[tropic egret]

assumedly it's a lovely issue

[stark shale]

what does this implies

[tropic egret]

because it was more consistent with lovely smods than smods [my mod]

[tranquil vessel]

my first thought honestly is "cryptid is loading something it shouldn't" but I'll see

[dire trail]

have you tried turning it off and back on again

[zenith loom]

wouldnt be surprised

[random storm]

it implies nxkoo lives in the ominous purple store

[zenith loom]

though this hasnt happened to me until i tried installing paya's

everything works as intended without it

[dire trail]

wait are you using the most recent cryptid

[stark shale]

amusing

[dire trail]

i dont mean release i mean like actual code

[zenith loom]

if its outdated its only outdated by a few hours to a day

[stark shale]

When in Doubt, Blame Cryptid

[dire trail]

didnt cryptid remove pointer recently

[zenith loom]

no?

[tranquil vessel]

my actual reasoning about half the time when I see a crash log

[tropic egret]

i don't think it's a cryptid issue because when it happened to me i didn't have cryptid

i still don't have cryptid

[zenith loom]

also again everything works as intended without Paya's installed