⚙・modding-general

[harsh glacier]

shinku gift this gal ortalab for christmas

[warm swan]

I meant to ask you

[stark shale]

Ortalab Tomorrow

[warm swan]

Troll

[polar oyster]

:b alatro

[warm swan]

150000 what?

[stark shale]

15k Joker C++

duh

wait

i cant read

[polar oyster]

150000+ users in discord

98%

[stark shale]

:(

[latent crescent]

[warm swan]

How is 1/150k 98%

[stark shale]

98%

[warm swan]

Love how the tag isn’t even related to the server

[wraith seal]

oh yeah

you can download yggdrasil from the experimental branch

new stuff in there, including new art

[stark shale]

is this relic rework

also

min stake relic

?

[warm swan]

POG

[wraith seal]

ye

[blissful stag]

a fair tradeoff for deckfixing(?)

[stark shale]

fuckkkkkkkk

i gotta black stake

[wraith seal]

:3

[polar oyster]

destroy almost every card then sell this?

[wraith seal]

actually, one sec

lemme uh do smt

[hard plank]

bepis no

[stark shale]

is there a minstake gold relic

[polar oyster]

actually i like it, high card antisynergy

[wraith seal]

oh there definitely will be alright

[hard plank]

bepis....

what the fuck did you do

[wraith seal]

I spent 1000 hours grinding for the best relic in Yggdrasil

[stark shale]

discord didnt like what you said

[wraith seal]

anyways pushed something to the experimental branch now

u can download it

[warm swan]

What’s B:SR?

[stark shale]

right now????

i just downloaded the mod.................................

[brisk seal]

now i can do joker rarity pools too, chaos may ensue

[warm swan]

Chat is this funny

Lemme MP4 that lol

Gimme a sec

[brisk seal]

you've had multiple seconds

[warm swan]

It has to upload

Ok

[stark shale]

wtf!!!! why did game crashed :((((((((((((((((

[warm swan]

What's the keybind?

That might be useful to me

Easy Exit

[wraith seal]

#1338562637453066240

[warm swan]

Cool

Getting it

[hard plank]

bepis bsr update

[wraith seal]

neever

[latent crescent]

That's obvious: update Talisman

[hard plank]

sleepyg11

[latent crescent]

aiko

[wraith seal]

i will DIE before i update bsr

[brisk seal]

would an mod which just adds functions to mess with all the games pools be helpful

[warm swan]

Does BSR add in-game UI? I like cluttering my screen

[stark shale]

yum!

[brisk seal]

don't eat those

[warm swan]

Ooh

Yummers

[brisk seal]

Yuckers

[warm swan]

Can mod folder names include :

[stark shale]

where does bismuth appear btw

[winged prism]

Right?

[brisk seal]

underground

[wanton rapids]

morefluff lore

[jaunty galleon]

cool art, i’m sure it was made by a real handsome devil

[stark shale]

amusing........

[jaunty galleon]

hi chat

[wanton rapids]

hi theo ne

[stark shale]

holy smick

[brisk seal]

hi

[stark shale]

upgrading? in my balatro?

[warm swan]

Yggdrasil thing: Get as much Inventory stuff as possible but never use it (Just get it because it's cool)

[stark shale]

im gonna

start with a soul

real quick

[brisk seal]

cheater

[polar oyster]

I recently played deltarune chapter 1 and realized that no one has yet made all 4 jokers for each suit

[stark shale]

why are you green

[stark shale]

is it really cheating...........

[brisk seal]

ze what

[polar oyster]

splash synergy

[brisk seal]

the balance has been sold

due to budget cuts

[stark shale]

relic time

[brisk seal]

i really need to play Yggdrasil mor eig

[stark shale]

ok but

this is ass

[brisk seal]

that's Junk

[sleek granite]

thats miku

[warm swan]

And that’s my dad

No my dad

He got the milk

[wraith seal]

big blind, no ante and stake requirement i think

i should make a custom collection menu

so that it shows where stuff spawn

breh

[warm swan]

Please

[stark shale]

oh right

[jaunty galleon]

miku as king? ermmm transmasc miku real ??

[stark shale]

i have 2 discard

ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hard plank]

i can't use lookahead 😭

[jaunty galleon]

alright i’m going back to bed, just got woken up by the loudest thunder i’ve ever heard in my entire life

[warm swan]

Is Survival always enabled? Or is it a game mode?

[hard plank]

😭

[stark shale]

faithful win2kk

[hard plank]

sleepyg11

[latent crescent]

Should I make new release just because I fixed few bugs and added localization

[mystic fossil]

aikoyori

[latent crescent]

aiko

[hard plank]

waffledevs

[wraith seal]

can you all sign here please :3

[warm swan]

On the image?

[wraith seal]

yes

[warm swan]

Wtf

[hard plank]

i just made a regex patch for stencil sooooo much cleaner

[plush hound]

must be lucky today

[stark shale]

gay void

[wraith seal]

wonderful thanks waffle

[stark shale]

IT'S SO GAY

[wraith seal]

nxkoo can you sign on the one with waffle's signature on it :3

[plush hound]

bu

[latent crescent]

• outdated
• cursor

[plush hound]

let the cursor be

he didnt do anything

[stark shale]

i got a fucking steak

[plush hound]

i got a dedicated button just for him

[mystic fossil]

signed it

[wraith seal]

oh cool

[plush hound]

tyy

you know im there because of the cursor

check my older screenshot

the cursor always there

[mystic fossil]

yea

im quick with it

[mystic fossil]

wait

[plush hound]

bruh

[mystic fossil]

nikon

[latent crescent]

[plush hound]

ihello

[mystic fossil]

yours is larger than the original

by quite a bit

[plush hound]

what is

[mystic fossil]

ur image you sent

[plush hound]

ohhhh

probably because i dont use the remix

[mystic fossil]

size comp

[hard plank]

@wraith seal

eval dp.hovered.stencil = function() love.graphics.circle("fill", 300, 300, 50, 100) end

นนยห

oops

[wraith seal]

wha

[hard plank]

i am bad at switching languiages agian

[wraith seal]

aikoyori unfortunately your signature is outdated now 🥀

[warm swan]

You took my spot :(
I made it but then I saw yours

[wraith seal]

and uh, arya too

[stark shale]

booohoo

[mystic fossil]

this really should have been made better

too asyncronous

[wraith seal]

true

[latent crescent]

damn

[stark shale]

woke people...

[wraith seal]

i really only planned to just

take notmario's signature for fun

then it evolved to this 😭

[azure dagger]

i'm on PC, so I don't get the Remix feature

[mystic fossil]

same

[wraith seal]

is there a webpage that lets everyone draw on it

hm

[hard plank]

courtroom again

[polar oyster]

sending...

[mystic fossil]

modprofiles and cursor missing

[polar oyster]

i love my internet

[wraith seal]

well damn we got two branches now

[plush hound]

edit it first

ill edit last

[stark shale]

mucho texto

[warm swan]

Is that a reference to Buckshot Roulette?

(love that game)

[brisk dust]

does anyone think they can help me with my game not launching

[stark shale]

they should kiss each other

[fallow bramble]

Balatro crossmod yaoi

[stark shale]

@hard plank AIKOYORI

[plush hound]

someone pinged me?

[wraith seal]

huh

[stark shale]

WHY IS THE EMERALD ETERNAL :SOB:

[wraith seal]

shouldnt the text be colored white

[mystic fossil]

i fucked up the image, it was me

1s

[plush hound]

sign it first

[wraith seal]

😭

[plush hound]

ill sign last

anybody?

[wraith seal]

i think deppi will be signing next

-# i think

[plush hound]

whos deppi

[hard plank]

bepis can we not

[mystic fossil]

@polar oyster

[wraith seal]

we can

[warm swan]

Depping these balls in the water

[polar oyster]

n

my n

[wraith seal]

there we go

you go now, nxkoo

[plush hound]

imma have a gp

when was the last time DR new chapter released again

im dreaded to wait for the spoiler week

[azure dagger]

deltarune yesterday

[plush hound]

fuck

i want to put someone there

from CH 3

[warm swan]

Spoiler

Please no

[plush hound]

damnit fineeee

[warm swan]

I haven’t played yet

[azure dagger]

no context

[warm swan]

Tf

[hard plank]

too too

[azure dagger]

thank you for getting the joke

[wraith seal]

thanks nxkoo

[teal sky]

Meoww

[plush hound]

whats it for

[stark shale]

im going to sign it thrice

[wraith seal]

idk

[iron garnet]

yall like this joker I'm making? (I will redo the head)

[warm swan]

Z

[azure dagger]

i'm assuming we can ALL assume what this custom consumable is gonna do.

[plush hound]

blahaj

4th of them

[gilded vortex]

Idk

[warm swan]

No?
Does Blahaj have lore?

[azure dagger]

it's gonna make Kings into Queens when used.

[gilded vortex]

Blahaj isn’t estrogen though 🤔

[azure dagger]

-# creative... totally...

[gilded vortex]

I’ve seen at least 4 Estrogens

Among Jokers, Consumeables, etc.

[azure dagger]

where

[half harness]

Is there a better crash log method that actually gives you exactly what was wrong, its so hard to know which mod did the crash

[warm swan]

No

Life sucks

/srs

[gilded vortex]

There was an old one which I’m not sure was released, there’s the Paperback one, and there’s two others I forget where I saw them

[harsh glacier]

hi exa

[hard plank]

what did u do todau

[brisk seal]

silliness

[half harness]

Hi friends

[gilded vortex]

Hi haya

[gilded vortex]

Hi aikoyori

[harsh glacier]

should i nerf arrowgraph

[hard plank]

did u add anything today

[half harness]

i mean i do update everyday all the mods

[gilded vortex]

So @azure dagger I wouldn’t assume Blahaj acts as estrogen.

I’ve also seen one or two other Blahaj Jokers

[hard plank]

huh

[azure dagger]

well in that case, back to drawing board.

[half harness]

is this really just someone forgetting to close a function

[hard plank]

that or a patch conflicted

lol

[half harness]

so trial and error it is

[hard plank]

yep

[stark shale]

brother why am i shooting myself

is this rng stupid?

[gilded vortex]

I mean, you can have your Blahaj Joker do whatever

I’m just saying I wouldn’t assume it acts as Estrogen

[warm swan]

So it is Buckshot Roulette

Pog

[hard plank]

i fucked up

[azure dagger]

fair.

[azure dagger]

wait, what's wrong with this image?

[warm swan]

Make Blahaj give you 10 Quadrillion cat and dog tags

[azure dagger]

that's cross-mod compatibility I really do not wanna do.

[hard plank]

nothing is appearing

[azure dagger]

just Alt+F4 it

[warm swan]

It was more of a joke tbh

[hard plank]

adding random shit

balatro dark mode

[warm swan]

Like this:
💩

[warm swan]

Wait

[paper laurel]

that is not random

its shit

arhhhh

[warm swan]

Make that a boss blind

Sick idea

[azure dagger]

yahimod

[brisk seal]

blue prince

[paper laurel]

its yahimod?

oh i didnt know

so many mods i add i thought its from zomebody else

[warm swan]

No cryptid?
Big sadge

[azure dagger]

yea, sans is from the Yahimod (that has no cross-mod compat, pls fix yaha mouse)

[paper laurel]

its only cryptid wym

[brisk seal]

can't believe Undertale stole Sans from yahimod

[gilded vortex]

Probably Talisman

[paper laurel]

yeah only talisman

i wouldnt mind honestly

[warm swan]

I would

[brisk seal]

nope

[paper laurel]

hello mind

[warm swan]

Undertale freeloading
Smh

[paper laurel]

thats why aikoyori says so many people complain about that

aikoyori fix the world

[azure dagger]

but Talisman is a literal cornerstone of Balatro mods.

[gilded vortex]

Talisman breaks mods

[brisk seal]

since when?

[gilded vortex]

I think Talisman is the problem

[paper laurel]

yeah

[grand geode]

finally

[paper laurel]

it is

[azure dagger]

Talisman is a dependency mod for a lot, isn't it

[brisk seal]

can i get context?

[brisk seal]

since when?

[warm swan]

Talisman bad

That’s the context

[brisk seal]

i'd disagree

[paper laurel]

the only mod use that is cryptid

as far i know

[gilded vortex]

Have you seen all the problems caused by Talisman?

[wanton rapids]

context.joker_main

[warm swan]

It has like no mod compatibility

[brisk seal]

ik about the bugs it brings

[gilded vortex]

The most common bug reports here are probably Talisman

[paper laurel]

basically
yap yap yap yap
got it?

[brisk seal]

doesn't make it a bad mod

[paper laurel]

true

[brisk seal]

especially since the comparison thing is pretty unavoidable

[gilded vortex]

It’s bad because it forces other modders to add compat to it

[brisk seal]

lua issue

[half harness]

@hard plank I had two maximus folder haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaya

[gilded vortex]

Solution 1: Force users to download a different version of Lua;
Solution 2: Remove Talisman

[brisk seal]

while annoying, i don't think that makes it a bad mod

[hard plank]

🔥

[brisk seal]

you can always... disable it, if you have a mod with no compat

[gilded vortex]

I think it makes it a bad mod because it puts the onus of fixing the problem on other people

[brisk seal]

so i fell this is just limited usage

[gilded vortex]

A problem that Talisman created

[gilded vortex]

Currently we’re in the Cryptid era of Balatro modding

Most players get introduced to modding by it

So they want other mods to be compatible with it

[jovial crystal]

lol

[brisk seal]

okay

[gilded vortex]

Again this is only an issue because Talisman is putting the onus of fixing the problem onto other people

[brisk seal]

i mean... it has to

[gilded vortex]

If I make a mistake and force you to fix it, that is unfair to you

[gilded vortex]

See the solutions above

[azure dagger]

so uhh I tried removing Talisman from mod list

immediate crash.

[gilded vortex]

Cryptid needs Talisman

[brisk seal]

you know both of those are unreasonable

[warm swan]

Remove Cryptid

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think it’s unreasonable

If players can’t be bothered to install a different version of Lua

[brisk seal]

I think you are making a big problem out of a little one

[gilded vortex]

They just don’t use Talisman

If a player finds a mod too hard to install, they just won’t install it

[warm swan]

Wait
Does LuaJIT2 fix Talisman?

[brisk seal]

okay so what you are saying is

[gilded vortex]

People who are sad: the Talisman dev
People who are happier: literally everyone else

People who want to play Talisman can still play it

If they don’t want to install a new version of Lua, they don’t want to play it enough

So they aren’t sad to give up

[warm swan]

Again, what does this mean?

[brisk seal]

the generally modding audience has a desire for talisman compat, so it is unfair that if a modder wants players to play their mod they have to cater to that desire

is that your claim

[gilded vortex]

Idk the details. I know newer versions of Lua support the missing operator override that Talisman would need to not break every mod under the sun

[warm swan]

Like LuaJIT2?

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[gilded vortex]

Idk

[brisk seal]

i fundamentally disagree with that

[gilded vortex]

Isn’t LuaJIT2 a compiler?

I think the issue is at the programming language level

But I’m ignorant of the specifics

[brisk seal]

if the modding audience wants something and you don't want to give it, then they don't download the mod

[warm swan]

Idk
I was just wondering if I had more mods because of it

[brisk seal]

nobody has any right for their mod to be desired

[gilded vortex]

It’s not about being desired

As I said before

It’s about creating a problem and expecting other people to fix it for you

[azure dagger]

if I knew how to add exponential mult without Talisman, I'd put effort towards making it happen so I don't need Talisman as a dependency.

[gilded vortex]

Especially when Talisman devs could fix it

[brisk seal]

nobody is being forced to do anything

[gilded vortex]

They’re forced to do it if they want people to player their mods

[brisk seal]

you are making this sould way simpler than it is

[gilded vortex]

I didn’t say it was simple

As I said above

If players can’t bother to do it

Then they just don’t want to play it enough

Which is fine

[brisk seal]

that's how making a mod works

you are forced to do tonsof stuff if you want players to play your mods

[warm swan]

🍿 Great arguing guys
Two people that won't change their opinion

[brisk seal]

nobody has any right to this being an easy process

[brisk seal]

i like arguing tbh

fills time

[warm swan]

True

[gilded vortex]

I think outside of Talisman compatibility, no one is being forced to change their mods

[gilded vortex]

People can have conversations

[brisk seal]

modders are forced to make their mods fun

make them generally not crash-y

[gilded vortex]

Fun is subjective

[brisk seal]

for the latest steamodded

[gilded vortex]

This is meaningless

[brisk seal]

when i say crash-y

i mean make the mod not crash often

[gilded vortex]

SMODS is an API for modding that makes modders’ lives easier and as it’s essentially required it’s a standard to abide to

[gilded vortex]

I said meaningless because it’s the bare minimum of a working software

[brisk seal]

SMODS has made my life harder more often than easier

[warm swan]

Wow! No way! I didn’t know crashy meant crashing!

[gilded vortex]

If I said I made a table and presented to you a pile of sticks you wouldn’t call it a table

[wanton rapids]

trust me smods is very useful

it makes your life way easier

[gilded vortex]

“Make mods not crash-y” is meaningless

[gilded vortex]

Sounds like your problem

[brisk seal]

no it means making a mod that doesn't crash often

[azure dagger]

I like using SMODS because it makes it a lot simpler and it has documentation with it.

It basically helps with lowering the bar to let anyone mod the game

[warm swan]

Why does Calculating take 5 seconds when I play a single hand with 1 card and no jokers

[gilded vortex]

This isn’t meant to be disrespectful—it literally just sounds like a problem you have, personally

[brisk seal]

my point is

modders have to do a certain set of things to make the mods they release attract players

[gilded vortex]

And Talisman compat shouldn’t be one of them

[warm swan]

Do you think I could make a mod easily?

[brisk seal]

i don't think that's true

[gilded vortex]

I do

[azure dagger]

Given enough time, doc reading, and effort, anyone can.

[warm swan]

Pog

[brisk seal]

the audience for balatro mods can want whatever they wish

[gilded vortex]

Do I think you could make a mod? Yes
Easily? Have you coded?

[lone frost]

bru my ferryman joker is 200 lines long 😭

[gilded vortex]

Which is why I’m blaming the Talisman devs

[warm swan]

Not in Lua

[brisk seal]

if you want them to play, you must cater to whatever they want

[lone frost]

i can guess ill have 50 errors for the least

[gilded vortex]

What language

[brisk seal]

do you even know how to install a new lua version for Balatro?

[warm swan]

It’s been years but I learned JavaScript and Python 3

[azure dagger]

I'm originally from coding in Java alone, but now I have a full on mod thanks to the mod community and SMODS.

[brisk seal]

cuz that doesn't seem like a simple process

[gilded vortex]

No but that doesn’t matter

[brisk seal]

it very much does

[warm swan]

Don’t remember much

But the experience has helped

[lone frost]

yeah i started with python, and ik how to code lua now. with python u can code

[gilded vortex]

I don’t care

If people want to play Talisman

They should go through the hardship

Instead of giving work to modders

[brisk seal]

the other talisman devs have no obligation to have compat with any mod

this obligation doesn't just suddenly appear one a mod gets popular

[gilded vortex]

I think they have an obligation to the community

[warm swan]

Nice
I started in Scratch lol (I have like 130 projects on there)

Wrong reply

[lone frost]

well, i also started in scratch

[gilded vortex]

Again, don’t give other people problems that they have to fix

Fix your own problems

[lone frost]

🔥

[azure dagger]

SCRATCH MENTION 🔥 🔥 🔥

[gilded vortex]

That’s common human courtesy

[lone frost]

SCRATCH

[brisk seal]

well this is just a fundamental difference in our values

[lone frost]

(i dont touch it since i started with python 😔)

[gilded vortex]

Then picking up Lua shouldn’t be too hard

[brisk seal]

not very much left to argue

[wanton rapids]

also recall that talisman is relatively new

[gilded vortex]

Mathguy doesn’t return the shopping cart after putting groceries in the car

[lone frost]

also i have 203 scratch projects published

[gilded vortex]

[wanton rapids]

compared to modding as a whole

[warm swan]

https://scratch.mit.edu/users/Ayden123plat/

[brisk seal]

these are not the same thing

[warm swan]

175 projects

God

[brisk seal]

anyone has a right to produce whatever original content they want

[gilded vortex]

I just thought it was funny to say v_v

[brisk seal]

and share ir with whoever

*it

[stark shale]

child

[gilded vortex]

If I’m producing “original content” that affects my neighbors, they can complain about it

[brisk seal]

Talisman cannot harm you if you do not download it

[gilded vortex]

I never downloaded it

I still get bug reports from it

[brisk seal]

k

we aren't going to get anywhere with this

[lone frost]

this has to be a joke... i got the ONLY ability that does NOTHING (yet)!!

[brisk seal]

we simply have different ideologies of what a person is obligated to do

[lone frost]

hmm better now

[gilded vortex]

aunt

[brisk seal]

agree to disagree

[warm swan]

Can I please help? You literally have a great mod here, already planned out and everything. I know it’s a big ask, feel free to decline.

[wide laurel]

does anyone have any silly and/or broken mod recommendations i want to have some fun

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if that’s true. I think we have different opinions about what Talisman’s actions are

[brisk seal]

okay suppose a hypothetical

[gilded vortex]

I think Talisman is doing the equivalent of playing loud music at 12AM

You think it’s doing it at 12PM (and not as loud)

[gilded vortex]

Fish

[brisk seal]

i create a mod which is compatible with literally no other mods

[lone frost]

yay my mod crashed

[brisk seal]

but it is extremely fun and nearly everyone downloads it

[gilded vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232074540633428028

[warm swan]

Pog

[brittle nexus]

mh mh ?

[warm swan]

Cryptid

[brisk seal]

i do nothing to fix the incompatibilities and people start making bug reports for crashes with downloaing the mod with other mods

[lone frost]

wait is that all it does

[brisk seal]

would i be in the wrong in this situation?

[gilded vortex]

🐟

[brittle nexus]

Yahimod if youwatch Yahiamice, lots of ref fromhischanneland overall memes

[gilded vortex]

It depends on more context

[brittle nexus]

and it'svery well made

[grand geode]

#1338751631524888608

[brisk seal]

what context does it depend on

[brittle nexus]

i think so yeah, but yeah needs more context to judge it

[gilded vortex]

The nature of the incompatibility, the state of the modding community

[hard plank]

8

[wide laurel]

link?

[gilded vortex]

There’s also some chance the players complaining about bugs are wrong, but at least as a modder who doesn’t want to add compatibility, you could at least educate your audience

[brittle nexus]

getting it, idk if its on the discord list

[brisk seal]

starting a run with my mod while any other mod is downloaded causes a crash

the modding community is obsessed with the mod and nearly everyone has it downloaded with about 40% or something branching out to add other mods to their collection

[gilded vortex]

Which, absent of other context, I’d say you should do in your hypothetical

[brittle nexus]

https://github.com/Yahiamice/yahimod-balatro

[brittle nexus]

then yeah you should update it to be compatible with other mods

[brisk seal]

i disagree

[brittle nexus]

limiting modded players t o only play your mod is somewhat selfish

imo

[gilded vortex]

Again it depends on the nature of the incompatibility. What is it doing that causes other mods to break? How easy it is to fix it (not in terms of coding, but in terms of logic)? How mature is the modding community?

[gilded vortex]

I think it depends

[warm swan]

What mod?

[gilded vortex]

For example

Let’s say your mod turns Balatro into Pong

No Jokers, no cards

[fallow bramble]

That didnt stop Yahimod fot being a hit

[gilded vortex]

Just Atari Pong

[brittle nexus]

it is compatible with other mods

i have it withmy other mods

and it truns well

[fallow bramble]

Its not meant to and even mentions it

[grand geode]

it's because yahimod players play it for yahimod, not for cryptid

[gilded vortex]

At that point, the idea itself is too incompatible with other mods

[brittle nexus]

well it's too late >:)

[brisk seal]

yeah, we have philosophies

[fallow bramble]

Exactly

[brisk seal]

a lot fo the things you feel need to be considered, i think are irrelevant

*of

[gilded vortex]

@brisk seal so you disagree with this?

[lone frost]

i love this ability... +29 cards

[brisk seal]

educate them on what?

[brittle nexus]

also it depends on what the mod does

[brisk seal]

i mean educating them would be nice

[gilded vortex]

Not to complain about lack of compatibility to other mods

[brisk seal]

but i'm not obligated to

[gilded vortex]

I think you should

[fallow bramble]

He doesn't have to

[gilded vortex]

And if you don’t then I’d say you’re wrong

[brittle nexus]

im kinda lost ._.

[gilded vortex]

Not legally

[brisk seal]

if people start doing a wrong thing

i don't have to make an effort to stop them

[fallow bramble]

Not legally or for anything else

[tropic egret]

i mean yahi's mod has a single sentence in the GitHub readme about incompatibility

[fallow bramble]

I doubt first time modders will worry about Talisman

[brittle nexus]

yeah i saw it only todayx)

[gilded vortex]

If you have an audience, and your audience starts slinging mud at people, I think it’s fair to request you influence them not to sling mud at people

[fallow bramble]

I dont see you telling them to do so

[gilded vortex]

Idk what you’re trying to say

[fallow bramble]

If you see a modder doing something with G.GAME.dollars comparaisons are you going to jump at their troath for not using to_big?

[brittle nexus]

y'all might be over complicating it tbh

[brisk seal]

if i didn't do communicate to them or insinuate to them that they should fling mud, how is it my responsibility

[stark shale]

how are you alive

[brittle nexus]

dafuckis thatdesc

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think Talisman compatibility should be done by general modders, but by Talisman itself

I’m not sure what you think my opinion is

[fallow bramble]

But you said people should adapt to those situations

[gilded vortex]

They’re your audience

[brisk seal]

i don't own them

they are seperate entities

[gilded vortex]

If you didn’t teach your dog to bite people, but they bit people anyways, it’s your responsibility

[brisk seal]

dogs are different

pets are property

[gilded vortex]

It could be a child

[tropic egret]

i mean to me it just takes a single sentence in a readme to fix this

[gilded vortex]

They’re both separate entities

With volition

[fallow bramble]

The examples are getting weirder

[gilded vortex]

I think it takes more than that

[azure dagger]

-# me currently:

[brittle nexus]

yeah like a aring,like yahimod

[gilded vortex]

I’m not sure what you’re saying I said

[brittle nexus]

same

[tropic egret]

well yes but cryptid doesn't even have one

[lone frost]

IS THAT

[gilded vortex]

What about Talisman?

[brisk seal]

i cn't just be responsible for another persons actions because they use my mod

*can't

[fallow bramble]

Im not gonna bother if you can't understand a thing I say

[brisk seal]

if they are my child then, sure

[brittle nexus]

BALATRO MENTIONED 🔥 🔥 🔥

[warm swan]

Chat
What if I made a mod that makes all text (including mods) alternate mode?
Like synonyms and antonyms?

Examples:
IShowSpeed -> YouHideSlowness
Ghost -> Phantom

[lone frost]

MENTIONED MENTIONED 🔥🔥

[latent crescent]

Is anyone playing modded balatro on linux?

[brisk seal]

to an extent, i am responsible for their actions

[brittle nexus]

MENTIONING MENTIONED 🔥

[gilded vortex]

From my perspective you are asking why I’m not telling people to do something I explicitly said I don’t think they should be required to do.

[lone frost]

🔥 MENTIONED

[warm swan]

Why are we talking about children and dogs (I read random stuff lol)

[gilded vortex]

I think to some degree you’re responsible for your audience’s actions

[brittle nexus]

: fire : MENTIONED 🌊

[brisk seal]

i disagree

unless i am actually communicating to them to do a thing

[gilded vortex]

I also find it weird to accept the audience of people causing trouble and not care about it

[latent crescent]

🌊 looks like amogus. Live with it

[brisk seal]

or doing something with the intentionf or them to respond in a certainw ay

[hard plank]

8

[brittle nexus]

you need to leave now...

[gilded vortex]

At least one or two people

[hard plank]

fire in the hole

[warm swan]

It really doesn’t (at all)

[gilded vortex]

What does

[west hill]

Oh boy the talisman problem again 😂

[hard plank]

🌊

among us

sussy

[gilded vortex]

Can anyone else tell me what they think SDM_0 was talking about?

[hard plank]

[warm swan]

I do, why?

[gilded vortex]

I’m still confused

[latent crescent]

I need to check is my nested folder check works for linux

[hard plank]

oj

[full edge]

I've not read up on the conversatio and am missing all context. I think SDM_0 was talking about baked goods

[hard plank]

oh

[gilded vortex]

Baked goods?

[warm swan]

Gimme it
I’ll test it for ya
SteamOS btw

[brisk seal]

OR do something which will obviously lead to a certain result, like putting a box of matches in the middle of a daycare

[latent crescent]

Good enough

[fallow bramble]

Sounds like a better convo

[lone frost]

holy moly that's peak

[brisk seal]

beyond stuff like that, responsibility lies on the audience

rather each individual doing the acts within the audience

[full edge]

What's the actual topic?

[warm swan]

Agreed

[grand geode]

mod compat

[tropic egret]

uhhh whether cryptid has a responsibility to communicate mod compatibility with its audience

[gilded vortex]

I think there’s a problem with Talisman putting the onus of compatibility on everyone else instead of fixing it itself

Either by forcing users to download another version of Lua or something else

[gilded vortex]

This would also help, but I’m not talking about Cryptid

[tropic egret]

oh but that's definitely not Talisman's responsibility though

like functionally speaking talisman can't even fix itself easily to do that

[gilded vortex]

I think Talisman creating a problem and forcing other people to fix is an issue

[gilded vortex]

Can’t they force people to install a new version of Lua?

[west hill]

There’s absolutely a problem with talisman doing that, but no matter how many times people request it, the people working on it dont care because they’re contained within the cryptid bubble where coding around talisman existing is the norm

[hard plank]

beautiful

[brisk seal]

---------

the argument is on whether Talisman is in the wrong for having large mod incompatibilites that havr to be fixed on the side of the other mod

---------

[fallow bramble]

And if your mod isnt compatible with Talisman/Cryptid it's not those mods they're gonna uninstall

[west hill]

I’m 99% sure that they could entirely solve the problem by packaging a version of luajit that allows overriding the __lt operator, which is the exact same installation process as installing lovely

[warm swan]

You added an extra - at the bottom
Fix it now

[gilded vortex]

@warm swan

Does that answer your question

[warm swan]

My OCD

[latent crescent]

I think we need wait for Balatro update and see what happened with lua version and love engine version.
If nothing will change, Talisman must be heavily rethinked

[gilded vortex]

But will they rethunk it?

[warm swan]

Yeah I guess

[gilded vortex]

I thunk not

[west hill]

As it stands, this is basically how talisman works right now

[warm swan]

So looks like I have less incompats
Pog

[fallow bramble]

Didnt LT tried it once and had issues?

[brisk seal]

i disagree with Talisman being in the wrong, as someone who has personally had to deal with Talisman changes

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think that’s true

[brisk seal]

so it's not just me being bias

[gilded vortex]

Because I don’t think Talisman overrides the operator

So even with a different LuaJIT

You don’t benefit from it

[tropic egret]

why is this a moral question

[full edge]

my take is that any thought about 'responsibility' is kinda moot because it's a volunteer or hobby project, generally, and people shouldn't treat it like jobs. The reason to set up and work on compatibility, or communicate it clearly is courtesy towards the rest of the community and taking other active members into account. A modding community doesn't have a leader and it's just driven by interest, so you have to account for that if you want to make the community working with it.

[west hill]

Talisman is 100% the root of the issue, if a new mod came around now that caused literally every other mod to code around its existence it would never be picked up

[full edge]

I'm not making a lot of sense but my throat is swollen and my fever's back, so I'll need about 4 tries to word anything in a logical sense

[gilded vortex]

Not necessarily, but it’s likely

[brisk seal]

sure, but nobody is in the wrong for making such a mod

[gilded vortex]

@brisk seal that’s part of why I needed more context

[west hill]

The only reason talisman is “popular” is because cryptid was the first big mod that drew a lot of attention

[gilded vortex]

Rest and take care

[west hill]

They’re not in the wrong, but with the state of it now, they should absolutely be working to stop it being a problem

[brisk seal]

i'm allowed to make the worst chair in existeence and put it for sale at $100,000 each

[full edge]

But yeah, one thing I've learned recently: the cryptid side of the modding community has no clue what the goings-on are for the not-cryptid part of the community

[fallow bramble]

Its because Cryptid requires it too, otherwise nobody would care

[west hill]

Yeah exactly

[warm swan]

This to you as well Ice (you’re in my top 5 Balatro mod makers (you’re so nice thanks) (talking about Ice here))

[gilded vortex]

I tried to make the comparison earlier that Talisman is playing extremely loud music at 12AM, instead of playing loud but acceptable music at 12PM

[grand geode]

nobody caring is a bit wrong, vanilla breaking naneinf barrier still needs it
but the majority wouldn't care

[wide laurel]

okay which mod changes small blind to like. ''check'' and ''fold'' it keeps crashing my game

[brisk seal]

Ortalab

[wide laurel]

thank you

[gilded vortex]

-# I’m gonna cry IRL

[brisk seal]

nobody has to listen to the music tho

[warm swan]

You’re in there too tbh
Ice is just above you

[fallow bramble]

Balatro modders tierlist

[brisk seal]

that's why it's not wrong

[gilded vortex]

To be fair I’d also rank Ice above me

[warm swan]

See?
Now you’re getting it!

[grand geode]

f: myst
s: everyone else

[brisk seal]

everyone is F tier, equality

[fallow bramble]

I guess, in the end, Ice is kino

[full edge]

If music is the metaphor, every neighbor's soundproofing their walls to account for the music just because their house guests are wondering what the humming is that is keeping them awake, haha

[gilded vortex]

Exactly

That was my point

[hard plank]

i am shitting myself with this chat

[gilded vortex]

The neighbors shouldn’t need to soundproof

[brisk seal]

you don't

[tropic egret]

aikoyori

[fallow bramble]

Clean yourself

[gilded vortex]

Because someone is playing extremely loud music at 12AM

[brisk seal]

you can somply ignore talisman

[grand geode]

lobcorp development resumes in a few hours

[brisk seal]

and talisman incompats

[brisk seal]

nobody is forcing you to address these

[tropic egret]

if i ignore talisman then i get like 15 people complaining

[brisk seal]

block em'

[west hill]

Everybody just needs to start ignoring talisman

[full edge]

I've turned on DM requests instead of actual DMs because I got so many talisman compat DMs with early Kino, before it was compatible

[west hill]

If people continue to program around its existence the problem will only get worse

Because people think the problem is with your mod, rather than talisman

[brisk seal]

everyone is alllowed to complain about whatever

but nobody has to listen

[fallow bramble]

Try telling that to Cryptid community Ill watch

[gilded vortex]

As canicha said, even if Talisman at least tried to make players aware

[west hill]

In the music analogy, it’s not my fault that my guests can’t sleep because of the music

[wide laurel]

okay why does my game close when i try to click a damn card

[latent crescent]

Just crash a game when your mod detect Talisman installed with explanation that "enough"

[brisk seal]

now complaining to people can be wrong if you are being annoying, excessive, or rude about it

[grand geode]

i don't mind doing talisman compat for future content because i already have it, but i don't care about it when i add stuff, only when someone brings it up

[warm swan]

I’m gonna make the biggest modpack possible with no game-breaking glitches

At all

[brisk seal]

but that's on the bug reporter. not talisman devs

[gilded vortex]

What you should do is simulate the player going to mod settings and disabling Talisman on startup

[grand geode]

half of lcorp github issues are talisman moments

[tropic egret]

i mean usually the bug reporters are just unaware about how talisman breaks stuff a lot of the time

it's also not on them either

frankly it's just on the lack of communication about the issue to players

[gilded vortex]

And it shouldn’t be on you to address it*
-# *IRL if you invited people over with this known issue, you could at least forewarn them or try to find a palliative, but definitely not soundproof your home

[full edge]

My point is just that listening to people's common complaints can be a sign of friendliness and a good attitude. I don't mind making Kino more compatible. But besides Talisman, I think part of the issue is just that Balatro modding has like three flavours: just one mod, cryptid + some stuff, or every mod they can find as long as there isn't a crash on startup. The big modpacks also make diagnosing crashes and issues difficult, and I don't think my personal attitude of wanting to be that compatible should need to be the default

[west hill]

No, the issue is 100% how invasive talisman is on number comparisons

[fallow bramble]

Which shouldnt be an existing issue in the first place

[brisk seal]

i mean i find it hard to say that a bug reporter is in the wrong just for reporting a comml reported bug if they didn't know it was commonly reported

[warm swan]

Is there a DebugPlus command to view deck from title screen?
I need to fix a bug where cards aren’t showing up and that would be way faster.

[latent crescent]

Or more like limitations of Lua as a programming language

[gilded vortex]

Someone with 80+ mods reported a crash to me and I still have no idea what I’m even supposed to do

[fallow bramble]

A deck doesnt exist until you start a run

[tropic egret]

there is not just one issue, we can have more than one issue, i reject eremel's premise

[brisk seal]

you don't have to address it

[warm swan]

Can you simulate one?
Or use the last run’s one?

[gilded vortex]

I do want to address it, but I need more information to even try

[west hill]

Sure, but talisman seems like it was developed with a “whatever works is fine” attitude with no thought of interaction with anything else

[fallow bramble]

Thatd me more complex

[brisk seal]

then find it

check al the mods

[warm swan]

Would it still be one command?

[brisk seal]

*all

[full edge]

But also, on the note of whether the devs are 'responsible', I recently discussed ensuring that Cryptid's version is more frequently changed when bug fixes or small content changes are pushed. It's not their 'obligation' to fix it or version more precisely, but it's incredibly helpful for finding compatibility issues and helping people install mods if the version is changed more often. It's a good practice and a nice courtesy

[fallow bramble]

Defo not

[gilded vortex]

Which is why me and canicha said the devs should inform the audience

[warm swan]

Ah, okay.

[gilded vortex]

The Talisman devs

[full edge]

Same as why it's good to make sure your hooks return the same values, or you don't do an 'at' patch when you don't need to .

[gilded vortex]

In this case

[brisk seal]

that would be helpful

[harsh glacier]

gooood evening modding chat

[gilded vortex]

It was their choice to do this anyways knowing those limitations

[brisk seal]

but i have a problem with saying they are in the wrong

[fallow bramble]

Wish Cryptid listened to that advice, the amount of lovely clashes I had with this mod

[brisk seal]

simply because they haven't

[latent crescent]

You know, DrSpectred on stream says (it's his opinion) that versions by MathIsFun was at least working. After that, Talisman always fixing new problems coming from nowhere

[gilded vortex]

But earlier you said you disagreed with having to influence your audience

[gilded vortex]

I don’t

[brisk seal]

yes

[full edge]

It's all really just about courtesy and taking steps to make the modding community more stable. Same reason why it's nice that the SMODS contributors are around to talk to

[tropic egret]

can we stop uh

[brisk seal]

they don't have to

[tropic egret]

antagonising talisman

[brisk seal]

you don't have to do every single thing that would be helpful

[gilded vortex]

In fairness I don’t think it foresaw becoming so big, so it’s at least fair that it started that way

[west hill]

I dunno, it was always a “use this mod with other mods to break the score limit”, right?

Like it was always intended to be used with other stuff

[brisk seal]

no?

[gilded vortex]

No. If I’m going to try and fix a bug, the reporter needs to at least give me enough information to start from. I don’t even know if the bug is caused by my mod. They just said it was, but didn’t explain their methodology or give me any indication that it was in fact my mod

[tropic egret]

talisman was developed with cryptid in mind?

[full edge]

I think a good thing to remember, same for Cryptid issues, as far as compat goes, is that they're group and community efforts. Sometimes that means wanting a fix is taking that effort yourself, or communicating that concept. I do think on the Talisman side, for those that contribute there, it'd be good for them to make some posts just generally more broadly and see if there are people who can be recruited for the effort

[brisk seal]

if the reporter hasn't given as much info as you like then don't address the bug

[fallow bramble]

This talisman debate is tiring, we keep having it and nothing changes or seem to matter

[full edge]

I think it was metherul who pointed out a while back that the assumption that you play multiple mods at once and that they work stabily in any way is also somewhat recent? I've not been around long enough to truly know, though

[gilded vortex]

No

[full edge]

Anyway, on a non talisman topic, I've finished the art for my The Beach That Makes You Old blind

[brisk seal]

i think giving insufficent information for a bug report is on the fault of the reporter

[tropic egret]

you're literally not helping yourself

[gilded vortex]

But I don’t think it was meant for arbitrary mods

[tropic egret]

if you want something to change antagonising whoever can change it is the opposite direction

[gilded vortex]

Just for mods that wanted to break the score limit

[tropic egret]

of what you want to do

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think any of the people who can change it are here

[brisk seal]

a reasonable effort should be put if you expect someone to put time into looking at the report

[gilded vortex]

Also isn’t this how protests work ;P

[fallow bramble]

Show it

[hard plank]

ah fuck

[brisk seal]

everyone can make a PR

[tropic egret]

this isn't a government victin

[gilded vortex]

This isn’t every single thing. This is one specific thing

[latent crescent]

We just need a good fork of Talisman if devs behind it doesn't care about others, and setup it properly

[azure dagger]

:3

[hard plank]

:3

[brisk seal]

well how many things is a person obligated to do

[west hill]

Have you had chance to look into that string storage system any more?

[full edge]

I've not worked in tech, but I've done communication jobs for some start ups, and honestly, assuming any technical literacy on bug reports outside of technical products is a bit of an assumption, haha. I get that it's frustrating, and there's definitely a limit to how much you should do about badly reported bugs, but I think putting the onus on the reporter is just setting unrealistic expectations, haha

[gilded vortex]

This is a community and if enough people are made aware that Talisman is the issue then they can start complaining to Talisman devs

[latent crescent]

Rn busy with preparing Handy for release, then need prepare Overflow, and work meatime

[gilded vortex]

Share it

[latent crescent]

In general it can work, but require more development and testing

Just forcing it doesn't work, code is messy, convertions also weird

[brisk seal]

well what i meant was mroe of the reporter should put in a sufficient effort if they want another human to give time to their report

[gilded vortex]

Idk

[brisk seal]

wasting someones time isn't nice

[latent crescent]

So it is in my plans, but not top priority

[hard plank]

what is overflow

[latent crescent]

Replacement for Incantation by ruby aka ms entropy

[tropic egret]

the devs could always just ignore it though

[brisk seal]

whether something is right or wrong is about intention,

[tropic egret]

they're not obligated to do anything

[brisk seal]

bad decision making is a seperate thing

[full edge]

Might animate the water in the future, but wanna focus that effort on just setting up more of the functionalities first. Still have like 3 half-baked systems atm, haha

[latent crescent]

Looks sick

[tropic egret]

ooh

[west hill]

Animated water would be sickkkk

[full edge]

I'm still messing around with the timing of it all. I also need to look into the controller code so I can make it so the timers only tick down during player actions

As to not make it a Talisman animation skip or nopeus affected blind, I guess

[gilded vortex]

I agree but I need a minimum of information to work on. A crash log, steps to reproduce, etc. I didn’t find the log helpful, and the in-game action taken was clicking on Planet cards (and some modded consumeables). I’ve never had that happen so I need more information.

I’m not going to download 80+ mods to try and diagnose it myself. Especially if it might not even be my fault. If this player can pinpoint that it was exactly my mod’s fault, then they know at least something about programming…

Or, more likely, they don’t know what they’re talking about.

[full edge]

I mean, I think it goes two ways, haha. I don't wanna imply I think you should solve every crash log or anything

if I get one with 80 mods, and there's not an obvious cause, yeah, 'you have too many mods' is a valid response

[hard plank]

hi eremel

[full edge]

(You're getting to this point, @half harness 😛 )

[west hill]

hi aiko

[gilded vortex]

If people keep complaining at least they become aware of the issue. Hardly ever a human state is persistent, so eventually one side would give up (either mods adding compat or players giving up on wanting it)

[hard plank]

i am working on something trust

[brisk seal]

i just think Talisman devs have very little to no responsibility for Talisman players

[west hill]

i saw

I hate it 🤣

[harsh glacier]

exa's modpack is not up to speed to 80 mods yet

[gilded vortex]

Nice

-# looks like a tasty cookie

[stark shale]

:D

[hard plank]

i want scrolling dynatext....

[full edge]

Is this for Shenanigans?

[hard plank]

i think you can imply what i want to do from that alone

[hard plank]

this is for the mod menu page

[full edge]

I'm for sure gonna set up cross mod blinds that use that in terribly annoying ways, haha

[hard plank]

truncating the name is too ass

[stark shale]

Ortalab Tomorrow

[west hill]

I think I looked into scrolling dynatext a long time ago

[full edge]

Oooh, wait, what's it for?

[brisk seal]

how did we even get here

[gilded vortex]

Two people made scrolling UI elements recently

[full edge]

thunk watched NorthernLion stream a video game

[fallow merlin]

I’m new to this, how do I play against people what server?

[tropic egret]

multiplayer has itd own server

[full edge]

https://discord.gg/FYpC32UR You'll wanna use this server! For the multiplayer mod, that is

[brisk seal]

how dare NorthernLion

[gilded vortex]

Our whole universe was in a hot, dense state

[brisk seal]

Talisman issue are northernlion's fault

[gilded vortex]

Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started, wait

[brisk seal]

shake my smh my head

[stark shale]

Blame John

[gilded vortex]

Thank Misew

[full edge]

to make Talisman compatibility, one must first make the universe

[azure dagger]

A long time ago- actually, never, and also now, nothing is nowhere. When? Never. Makes sense, right? Like I said, it didn't happen. Nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It's been so everywhere, you don't need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how "every" it gets.

[tropic egret]

Talisman's issues are no one's fault unless you coded Luajit

simple logic

[west hill]

anyone here using latest smods commit?

[brisk seal]

probably not

[gilded vortex]

This has the same energy as the Blahaj Joker from earlier

[full edge]

no, but if you need something tested, I'm available

[brisk seal]

smods commit rate: 1/sec^^2

[west hill]

I just want someone other than me to say it doesn't have some glaring crash

[full edge]

I'll try it out

in a sec

[brisk seal]

crashes the OS

[fallow merlin]

I don’t know how to enter the multiplayer server. It’s not letting me.

[stark shale]

Ancestor Crys

[full edge]

Also, I've been getting more and more reports of CTDs and stack overflow issues in objects that I haven't changed the code for in like a month. I should figure out what that is about today, as well

[azure dagger]

are you getting "Invalid Invite"?

[tropic egret]

https://discord.com/invite/balatromp

[fallow merlin]

No, that’s not. What’s happening. It just sends me to the server.

[brisk seal]

well

[tropic egret]

oh you gotta just join physically

[brisk seal]

then problem solced

[full edge]

The last one is 3 days old, it seems 😛

[fallow merlin]

How do you join physically?

[brisk seal]

github is just taking a breather, trust

[tropic egret]

you're on like pc or something right

[azure dagger]

...you mean PLAY Balatro MP?

[tropic egret]

if you have a purple bar on the top

[brittle nexus]

what do we think ?

[fallow merlin]

Yeah, that one

[tropic egret]

yeah just click the button

[fallow merlin]

But I am. It’s just sending me back to this server.

[azure dagger]

You need the Balatro MP mod. Then you can find someone hosting a match and use their code to play against them in Balatro.

[tropic egret]

you might have too many servers

[brisk seal]

you must follow the longest river and assemble the cleanest gemstones in a hexagram and speak the ancient scrolls. and then join the Multiplayer Balatro Discord

[fallow merlin]

This is the only one I have

[tropic egret]

idk that's weird

the only time i know of that happening is ip ban

[fallow merlin]

But I’ve never been banned. I’ve just downloaded Discord five minutes ago.

[tropic egret]

assumedly multiplayer server might have a limit on new accounts

maybe give it a few months or smth

[full edge]

I assume so. they've been having a huge issue with alt accounts, no?

[fading heron]

anyone know how to fix this?

[azure dagger]

They may have some kind of anti alt-account measure and you're getting hit by it.

[brisk seal]

or yeats

*years

[fallow merlin]

Oh yeah, because of the whole cheer problem with disconnecting

[azure dagger]

Show code?

[tropic egret]

i know that's a discord option in security settings

[brisk seal]

or decades

[full edge]

we'll need the full log to do anything, haha

[stark shale]

Kasane Teto

[tropic egret]

that's not a full log

we want EVERYTHING actually

[azure dagger]

pear teto

[fading heron]

ok hold on

thanks guys

[latent crescent]

I need setup lua dev enviroment for developing string-based Talisman I guess

And how to call it

[tropic egret]

call it uh

hmm. what's the funniest name

[latent crescent]

uh? weird name

[tropic egret]

Juggle Tag

[latent crescent]

When this deck crash will be fixed?

[latent crescent]

Hello?

[tropic egret]

saturn...

[azure dagger]

StringMan

[hard plank]

going insane

[fading heron]

what should i do

[latent crescent]

Saturn fixed by me

[tropic egret]

it'd be funny to call it Factorial

[fading heron]

is that enough for context

[latent crescent]

You know, I like this name

Not relly Balatro related by sounds cool

[full edge]

all you can really do with this is disable some mods and try again until you find what causes it. It's not easily traceable from the crash, and there's too many mods for me to know what'd the cause be

[west hill]

when someone tells me latest commit smods is fine 😂

[full edge]

anything specifically you want checked?

[hard plank]

cartomancer crash lmao!

update to latest commit

[west hill]

just general stability

I don't think anything added should be a particular issue tbh

[full edge]

i've never used cartomancer. Is it just the main repo or is there a fork being used atm?

[full edge]

I'll finish a run and report back

and click on as much shit as possible, haha

[hard plank]

just download from the code button

[fallow merlin]

I’ve been constantly attempting to go onto the bilateral multiplayer Discord, but it never works. I’m on mobile if that helps.

[hard plank]

release is not made yet

:<

[mystic fossil]

🦃

[tropic egret]

if you read my Bountiful vs Rofflatro code youd know which mod i respect more

[livid meadow]

What the hell did you do to the cards??

[hard plank]

i will violently explode

[gilded vortex]

Fish?

[livid meadow]

What are you doing bro 😭 leave the poor game alone

[latent crescent]

Which mod I respect more? Lovely

[gilded vortex]

Is the issue that it isn’t centered?

On the cursor?

[tropic egret]

i respect only one mod

Egg

[gilded vortex]

@wind turtle what are your opinions on the previous debacle

[dreamy abyss]

aikoyori why are you committing crimes against gpus