⚙・modding-general

[jaunty galleon]

that's me !

[wraith seal]

thats you indeed

[gray delta]

has anyone made uno in balatro

[gray cove]

No background?

Bepis i think you should add like a little border and a background for items

[livid meadow]

Maybe a little too complex or OP

[gray cove]

Just to give them a little depth

[jaunty galleon]

there is but it's v subtle

[gray cove]

They look a little

Blank

[gilded vortex]

Mario Kart, the other Mario Kart, Kirby, SSBU, the two LoZ games,

WarioWare

[normal hollow]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/POLTERWORX/UNO_Cards

[gray cove]

Okay the kirby game is goated

[full edge]

Mario Odyssey is the best game ever made tbf

[jaunty galleon]

bold claim

[gilded vortex]

Oh I forgot that

That one is obvious

[jaunty galleon]

it wouldn't hit my top 5 MARIO games i think

[gray cove]

Thats a bold statement

[gilded vortex]

Not a Kirby game

I played SSBU like it was a Kirby game

[wraith seal]

its very subtle, yeah

[normal hollow]

honestly mario odyssey gets close to a kirby game

[gray cove]

A little border will give it a lot more depth

To make it look like an item

Either a border or remove the white background

[jaunty galleon]

i was under the assumption bepis had other cards made at the time and i didn't want to clash too hard with what was already there

[gilded vortex]

I’d smooth out the square more, and consider using a different background color so that the item could have two borders

[full edge]

Odyssey's my personal favorite Mario platformer, but I also never played a lot of the other 3D ones when they came out, so I have no nostalgia for them, and a lot of their movement is older. Not worse, just older

[gray cove]

Oh gabriel

[full edge]

But Odyssey's also just one of my favorite games. I've beaten that thing so many times

[gilded vortex]

Yeah I didn’t get to play much Galaxy and I played 64 a long time ago

[gilded vortex]

The water looks so good

[wraith seal]

turned out it was only one item art that i ever really made :3

you replaced the other ones made by tachonky too lol

[jaunty galleon]

i played most of galaxy on switch as part of SM3DAS and it's still incredibly good, played sm64 about a year back and it's genuinely unlike any videogame released before or since, the whole game drips with an almost eerie atmosphere. compelling stuff. when i think of odyssey i just think of how much filler it has

[wraith seal]

🤔 is the odds too high

[gray cove]

Sonic racing is so good

[wraith seal]

imagine having switch smh

[jaunty galleon]

the new game looks cheeks however

[gray cove]

I think sonic racing may be the game of the year

[jaunty galleon]

mario kart world has no reason to cost as much as it does but it is a very good game

[gray cove]

Bro they have hatsune miku

And fat white knuckles

[gilded vortex]

Are your lightbulbs always on

[wraith seal]

i wait for the power outage

[gray cove]

80$ ? Forza horizon 5 is 50$

Imagine

LMFAOOOOOO

[rustic sail]

Sorry for the late reply, I clipped using the love.graphics.scissor api, and just align the cards horizontally (though they account for their size and won't bunch up or tilt with more cards)

[gray cove]

Yk whats crazy

[rustic sail]

I intend to make the cardarea for it available through my faelib mod, since atm I'm working on UI elements for things that are a pain to make in vanilla balatro

[gray cove]

Cyberpunk 2077 and mario 64 have the same price tag

[jaunty galleon]

actually, games should cost $40 max

[livid meadow]

It's not the card specifically
I just think the idea of having items that have completely different effects if equipped or unequipped is a tad uhhh
Convoluted?
Passive effects might be better if you want to go down that path
Or limiting the items with the unequipped effects thing

[gray cove]

Me when the game is 80$ but i’m a fitgirl

[latent crescent]

Interesting. How did you solve a problem that you can interct with objects even when they're out of visible area?

[jaunty galleon]

games have cost the same for so long despite inflation because now you don't have to pay the chip makers, cartridge manufacturers, the people who package them up, the people that deliver them to stores, the stores selling the games, the cashier that has to ring you up and so on. if you're buying everything digitally there's no reason for a game to still set you back $80, especially for a game that has about 3 hours of engaging gameplay and 70+ hours of boring dogshit filler

[rustic sail]

I check whether the card.T is within the clipped area, and if not, don't render them

[latent crescent]

If elements doesn't rendered it doen't mean that you can't grab them

[rustic sail]

CardAreas manually render their cards

[normal hollow]

i love regional pricing
i bought all the final fantasies for like 80 dollars

[latent crescent]

So you scrollbar hardcoded to card area only?

[gray cove]

I do agree

[wraith seal]

🤔 my idea was to give items some purpose even when they arent equipped, if its too complicated i can throw it out of the window

[rustic sail]

Yes it's intended for cardareas right now but I could make a custom uit for scrolling pages

At the moment I'm developing what I need for my mod I'm working on

[gray cove]

Rogue like balatro

Wait

[gilded vortex]

If you don’t want to pay don’t pay

[rustic sail]

But if there's anything you'd like lemme know

[latent crescent]

Here's my attempt in scrollbar https://github.com/SleepyG11/BalatroScrollbar

[gray cove]

Balatro is already a roguelike

[wraith seal]

roguelite*

[rustic sail]

I'm damn good at finding workarounds to things

[latent crescent]

I used stencil

[gilded vortex]

I don’t think I saw that often in Brazil

[gilded vortex]

If anything as I said before

[wraith seal]

my mod makes balatro roguelite

[gilded vortex]

I think $80 is less than what I used to pay

[jaunty galleon]

oh i don't lol, last aaa game i bought was elden ring and that was grey-market. most i've spent on a game in the past few years is factorio

[gray cove]

Fym less

[gilded vortex]

It’s a bit tricky to evaluate with conversion and inflation

[rustic sail]

Ooo interesting

[gray cove]

Scrollalatro

[livid meadow]

Imo there's at least 3 ways of executing this

• your current method with unequipped effects
• passive effects
• standardised passive/unequipped effects (each one has one of maybe 10 different effects)

[normal hollow]

i mean i don't see this anymore since they dollarized the prices here

[rustic sail]

I just extended from a CardArea and overwrote the draw and align_cards

It's all I needed to do for it

[gilded vortex]

I think at the time the dollar was like R$4 and games costed R$360, so $90

[rustic sail]

It should work similarly for a UIBox

[gilded vortex]

But I could be wrong about conversion

[rustic sail]

I'll try that later today i think

[latent crescent]

Since I have no knowledge in love engine, I just found first eligible

Which was stencil api

[wraith seal]

whats the difference between passive effects and unequipped effects, though? are they just active when the item is equipped too

[latent crescent]

In general it works, but I need somehow prevent any events outside of visible area

[livid meadow]

Yeah, I'm realising that might not work with your mod's concept tho

[gilded vortex]

But maybe it would even out with inflation? Idk

Brazil also has high taxes AFAIK

[latent crescent]

Here's how it looks like @rustic sail

[livid meadow]

In that case the unequipped thing might work if you don't have too many different effects

[gilded vortex]

And Google doesn’t convert Real to other currencies

Or at least it didn’t last time I tried

[gray cove]

Chat

How do i animate sprites

[plucky sorrel]

[latent crescent]

cumputer

[plucky sorrel]

:ehehe:

[normal hollow]

but friends are at computer..

[plucky sorrel]

You must free them from computer

[wraith seal]

since bsr requires HEAVY reading comprehension

i think

it makes sense for yggdrasil to need it too

:3

[plucky sorrel]

Download your own copy of your friends

[gilded vortex]

You wouldn’t download a Balatro

[wraith seal]

i forgot how many relic sets bsr have again

[gray cove]

Balala star rail

[rustic sail]

I like it

[gilded vortex]

Balala Balala rail

[rustic sail]

Another thing I wanna try is a card wrapper that makes it so you can insert to and from cardareas like how I did for the bait and fish drop-off areas

But without how horrendously janky it is

[latent crescent]

Main issue is this one

If this can be somehow fixed, everything else is easy

[gilded vortex]

@latent crescent

[wraith seal]

is making your own scrolling ui a trend now

[rustic sail]

That'll still happen with mine too, but only as long as the card being drawn is within the clip area

[latent crescent]

You're clipping it with screen, not by some area. Too easy

[gilded vortex]

Scroll UI where you can inscribe spells upon ancient papyrus when

[rustic sail]

It's just damn hard to do with balatro's UI engine

[wraith seal]

true

[livid meadow]

this isnt necessarily about reading tho
it makes creating a good build more complex than it needs to be imo
especially if the unequipped effects can be more useful than the equipped ones

ultimately tho its your decision, im sure itll be very cool

[gray cove]

Can you reshape the ui buttons in balatro ?

[plucky sorrel]

A runecrafting mod would be so fun

[latent crescent]

If you'll try hard, yes you can

[tropic egret]

average of all jokers

[latent crescent]

But like really hard

[tropic egret]

not including the uhhhh soul pos

[livid meadow]

what kind of shape do you want

[wraith seal]

i mean, golden shovel is intended to just be a "use a few times and unequip it" relic

[gray cove]

Basic rectangle with 30deg up

[wraith seal]

i dont see why you would use it for 16 antes

[tropic egret]

annoyingly, brainstorm actually owns like

8 pixels

(on the corners bc they didn't get averaged with Nothing)

[latent crescent]

What if... in element define boundaries which is not clipped by any scrollbar area and prevent any events on this element if position outside of this boundary?

[gray cove]

I was playing persona and i’m really stunned by the ui

[latent crescent]

And not render element is fully outside, ofc

[gray cove]

Look at this bullshit

[livid meadow]

i cant visualise this at all sorry 😭

[tropic egret]

persona is good stylistic ui design

[rustic sail]

This would probably require overriding the movable:draw()

[wraith seal]

and the problem with those kinds of relics is that they wont be useful outside of specific scenarios, in this case its when you dont have any jokers

so i think for a rare relic - its bad

[wraith seal]

you can, yes

[rustic sail]

I could temporarily store the old draw function

[gray cove]

Its just a rectangle but 30 degrees up on the bottom left corner

[wraith seal]

though with how balatro ui works, i wouldnt be surprised if its gonna fuck up your computer

[livid meadow]

yeah honestly i feel like for smth thats supposed to be rare, the unequipped thing is more useful generally

maybe lower the luck increase?

[wraith seal]

mm ok

[rustic sail]

You could probably hook into the uielement's draw function and do this:

Push graphics stack
Translate origin of stack to the center of the object
Rotate
De-translate it
Render the object using the old function
Pop graphics stack

[wraith seal]

theres something you can tweak in the ui itself to let it rotate, if im not wrong

oh yeah

e.T.r

[rustic sail]

True true

[latent crescent]

[rustic sail]

Sorry I'm so used to having to do the method I mentioned for Minecraft mods

[wraith seal]

i will NOT buy nitro

[rustic sail]

[wraith seal]

do not tempt me with your emojis

why tf did my brain autocorrect nitro to relic

😭

i think my brain is just fried at this point

[latent crescent]

Be honest, not really interested in game development, but this scrollbar forces me

[livid meadow]

maybe you need to step back from yggdrasil 💀

[gilded vortex]

Have someone buy you nitro

[rustic sail]

Yeahhhh

[gray cove]

Something like this

[wraith seal]

no.

nitro is a waste of money grrr

[gilded vortex]

What’s this

[gray cove]

Button

[tropic egret]

actually

[gray cove]

Its supposed to be

[latent crescent]

Actually, true

[tropic egret]

what if this had an effect

average of all joker effects ...

[wraith seal]

can you take all of the +mult from all jokers in balala rn

and see the average

[gray cove]

Copies a random joker every hand

[ivory sinew]

nice card bro

[tropic egret]

i mean this is hard because what's Shoot the Moon vs Misprint

[rustic sail]

If you wrap the button in a UIBox you should be able to use .T.r and hook into the buttons draw function if needed

[tropic egret]

whats the average Shoot the Moon mult

[rustic sail]

TRUE

[latent crescent]

0 or 13

Probably 13

[rustic sail]

found it

[wraith seal]

grrrr

[tropic egret]

1 in 150 chance for each joker effect :P

[livid meadow]

imagine it hits madness

[tropic egret]

i mean to be fair i can't do like

shortcut or 4f or credit card

it's probably less

[gilded vortex]

What’s up unc

[wraith seal]

victin im DEFINITELY younger than you 😭

[gilded vortex]

Average all characters

[gilded vortex]

uncpis… 🥀

[wraith seal]

🥀

im so cooked

[umbral pilot]

I'm in my 50s

[gilded vortex]

@tropic egret like A, B, C, etc.

[jaunty galleon]

ALIENS !

waow i forgot how fun it is to draw new cards

[gilded vortex]

Why is breeze interested 😭

[umbral pilot]

I lied

[rustic sail]

[umbral pilot]

I'm actually 64

[jaunty galleon]

like super mario...

[gilded vortex]

Like Kirby and the Crystal Shards

[full edge]

oooh, that's gorgeous! What does it do?

[rustic sail]

Ooooo

[vernal hare]

i’m 700 years old

[wraith seal]

i might try to find a way to destroy this joker instead of selling for deck thinning actually 🤔

[jaunty galleon]

that's part of the design

it's also a faster-scaling egg if you play more than one hand a round

[full edge]

Ooooh, I like that. Have you touched Kino at some point, yet?

[jaunty galleon]

very very briefly

[rustic sail]

[umbral pilot]

I'm a liar, sorry

I'm actually in my early 20s

**born in

[full edge]

I keep putting off making this indicator system into either an API or an SMODS PR, but I've got an archetype with a very similar set up, which has this little ufo icon showing how many cards are currently inside of that card

[grand geode]

important question
is {C:attention} more orange or more yellow

[jaunty galleon]

yellow, easily

[silk wagon]

Orange

Well

[jaunty galleon]

more accurately, it's gold

[silk wagon]

Nah gold is more greenish

[tranquil vessel]

I'd say orange

[silk wagon]

Its like perfectly inbetween somehow

[full edge]

orange but I'm sure it can be more yellow if I mess with my monitor

[silk wagon]

I’d say orange tho

[grand geode]

actually, different question
{C:attention} and {C:money}, which one is more orange and which one is more yellow

[full edge]

money is yellow

[tranquil vessel]

money 100% more yellow

[grand geode]

comparision

[jaunty galleon]

sorry i was thinking of C:money

[rustic sail]

Money is more yellow

[jaunty galleon]

C:attention is orange as fuck

[grand geode]

thank you chat

[tranquil vessel]

there's also C:gold if you want it

[silk wagon]

Thats like darker right?

Rental sticker iirc

[full edge]

anyway, let me know when you push this so I can dome some hooks on my end and make it trigger my abduction-related jokers 😛

[tranquil vessel]

pretty sure it gets used nowhere in any game elements, only in the credits

[plucky sorrel]

Righttt? Feintha has such cute emote choices

Queen of cute emojis

[latent crescent]

[jaunty galleon]

THE grab bag/kino CROSSMOD

[rustic sail]

Thank you

I've curated them over the span of like 2-3y

[full edge]

I don't know if people use the jokers a lot, but the Abduction mechanic's the one I have most fun with while playing, so any chance to make that more synergistic with other mods I'm gonna take, haha

[plucky sorrel]

[rustic sail]

[tropic egret]

i wish for

oops all sixes

-# pleas e

[jaunty galleon]

i need to actually play lobotomy corp., then the mod

[plucky sorrel]

Axy has a few cute emotes too, but there's just so many that Axy can't use them all xD

[rustic sail]

[latent crescent]

I'm using same set for few years too

[plucky sorrel]

[grand geode]

i'm curious, axy, when do you refer to yourselves as we and when as Axy

[rustic sail]

[plucky sorrel]

Hm

[latent crescent]

Layer please remind me that I need keep working on Overflow mod

[plucky sorrel]

When one of the alters shares a perspective, probably?

[rustic sail]

personally I refer to myself as "we" when She is "loud"

[plucky sorrel]

Not really sure when Axy uses "we" or "I" or just Axy to refer to themselves

[grand geode]

-# i guess i can tell when Axy is fronting now?

[plucky sorrel]

Ehe, Myst knows about plurality too? :3

[rustic sail]

That's a really good explanation for mine as well

Never thought of it that way

[plucky sorrel]

[grand geode]

not a plural myself but i have several friends that are

[plucky sorrel]

Axy eventually wants to put our headspace into our Balatro mod, but still thinking about what interactions a player would have with us

For some alters it's easy, they'd consume and spawn Food jokers, for example

[plush hound]

i just ate mildly cured cement

[plucky sorrel]

But for others it's uh

[plush hound]

hit the road reference

[plucky sorrel]

No idea how to put a hardcore Persona 3 FES fan into the game

Axy hasn't even played Persona, but Tree basically embodies it

[grand geode]

sob

[rustic sail]

[plucky sorrel]

Axy looked at the UI once and mentally died

[latent crescent]

so true

[gray cove]

Its cool

Overwhelming yes

But cool

[plucky sorrel]

One way would be replacing the sprites for each button related to Tree with that sort of interface, but like. Bwehhh.

So Axy's been leaving that for later by making everyone else's cards and things instead, for the mod

[gray cove]

What mod are you working on

[gilded vortex]

Have you seen the Balatrostuck server

[grand geode]

tbf it's homestuck

[jaunty galleon]

the balawhat server

[gilded vortex]

Balatrostuck

For the mod

Balatrostuck

[jaunty galleon]

i don't care HOW good it is, i am NOT reading homestuck

[dense egret]

hi

[gilded vortex]

But how will you play Deltarune if you don’t know the backstory

[tropic egret]

balatrostuck? yeah my balatro's been stuck in calculate screen for 6 hours because i'm bad at joker management

[grand geode]

hop off cryptid bestie

[gilded vortex]

Who said it’s good

[gilded vortex]

hinininlla

[tropic egret]

oh i've never downloaded cryptid once

[dense egret]

what you doign chat, deltarune spoilers?

[tropic egret]

this is my impression of average cryptid play er.

[grand geode]

if i had a nickel every time i had to change every abnormality's generate_ui function manually i would have 3 nickels

[gilded vortex]

Phineas and Ferb revival

[gilded vortex]

I’ve never played Undertale

But I’ve read Homestuck

[dense egret]

why?

[jaunty galleon]

Fineas and Pherb...

[gilded vortex]

Never did it

[dense egret]

idk what that is

[grand geode]

my condolences

[gilded vortex]

That’s what made MeGaLoVania popular

[lone frost]

why is every1 talking abt deltarune and undertale whatever discord server i go to 😭

[dense egret]

oh

[lone frost]

at least i wont eat spoilers

[gilded vortex]

Deltarune released

[lone frost]

as ive beaten the game

[dense egret]

never read that

[lone frost]

yeah ive beaten it already

[jaunty galleon]

ch3+4 releasing was like the moon landing or the war ending for chronically online zoomers

[gilded vortex]

Fox was working on Undertale while living in Hussie’s basement

[dense egret]

hype, the moment

[gilded vortex]

And Fox was also working on Homestuck

Hussie made Homestuck

[lone frost]

yeah (actually im doing an undertale mod so uh yeah)

[dense egret]

lh

[dense egret]

who is hussie?? 😭😭😭

[lone frost]

.

[jaunty galleon]

the guy who made homestuck

[hard plank]

hi

[dense egret]

idk much lore of undertale or tobyfox tbh

[jaunty galleon]

no don't use g**gle

[gilded vortex]

Idk if they’re a guy but yeah

[gilded vortex]

use gr*k instead

[dense egret]

idc spoilers

[gilded vortex]

*aikoyori

[dense egret]

e

[lone frost]

||spoilers!||

[dense egret]

not again......

[gilded vortex]

Toby Fox also wrote a ||mpreg|| opera about Homestuck and later put it in an official Pokémon game

[jaunty galleon]

of course hussie Looks Like That

[rustic sail]

[gilded vortex]

Like what? Hussie has gone through different eras recently

[dense egret]

||you dont see the #🕹・game-discussion when they talk about deltarune?|| ||everything was|| ||spoiler||

[gilded vortex]

Like their juggalo e-boy era

[jaunty galleon]

i would not know

[gilded vortex]

Or maybe e-nb? I don’t remember the timeline

[jaunty galleon]

but all of the likely old pictures i'm seeing are, in fact, the person i would imagine to make homestuck

[dense egret]

now i am scared of homestuck

[lone frost]

yeah fr, but i literally said "spoiler" in the spoiler thing

[prisma cove]

as you should

[gilded vortex]

like I think this is from that era

[jaunty galleon]

also looks like someone who would make homestuck

[dense egret]

what happend to gon??? 😭

[prisma cove]

isn't it the MAN

the HORSE

*HORS, sorry

[dense egret]

what

[gilded vortex]

Juggalo

[gilded vortex]

Idk what you’re asking

[dense egret]

im not playing that

[prisma cove]

Why

the FUCK

Are you talking about Homestuck here?

In the

[gilded vortex]

Balatrostuck

The mod

[prisma cove]

in the modding channel

[dense egret]

xd

[prisma cove]

oh

[gilded vortex]

It’s a subculture

They’re like clown musicians

[gentle quarry]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[jaunty galleon]

so... musicians?

[prisma cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GyVx28R9-s

[dense egret]

no, silly musicians

[jaunty galleon]

no i know abot juggalos

[dense egret]

then?

[jaunty galleon]

just wanted to hate on musicians a little

[dense egret]

oh yea, why not

[jaunty galleon]

im a dedicated hater like that

[prisma cove]

gasp

why do you hate clowns???/

[dense egret]

and why you dont make mix in 430bp?

[zealous swift]

is there a mod that lets you drag cards into your hand?

instead of clicking each cards

[prisma cove]

yeah wait a min

[dense egret]

handy

[prisma cove]

oh wait no

i thought you were talkbing about sticky fingers

my bad

[jaunty galleon]

hmmm

[zealous swift]

thank youuuu

[jaunty galleon]

need some ideas for common cards that aren't just filler

[gilded vortex]

I had an idea for a Sticky Fingers Joker

[gilded vortex]

xMult Common

[prisma cove]

His evil twin

[jaunty galleon]

NEVER

[prisma cove]

Zipperman

[gilded vortex]

why not

[jaunty galleon]

it's uncouth! it's unnatural!!

[gilded vortex]

Joker idea:

Sticky Fingers
When you skip a pack, get a card from it

[gilded vortex]

I have 2

[dense egret]

then ^2 common

[dense egret]

There was a mod that added from x1.5 to x15 or something like that

[dense egret]

from common to legendary, i dont remember his name

[dense egret]

uh, for a moment i forgot ypure the creator of that

[grand geode]

is this readable now

[gilded vortex]

The idea here was to add harsh limitations to make them balanced

[dense egret]

slingshot is not too much balanced

[gilded vortex]

The first line of box 2 and the trigger of box 3 aren’t

[gilded vortex]

Why do you think so

[grand geode]

then what's a replacement for "you can manually activate this ability while in a round"

[dense egret]

If you base the run on planet cards, you have the run won.

[grand geode]

and the third trigger makes sense don't worry

[gilded vortex]

I mean you either need to generate them consistently or keep buying them

[gilded vortex]

I was thinking like “when you have 5 illuminated lights”

[dense egret]

astronomer isnt hard to get

[gilded vortex]

Or attaching it to the first ability

[warm spire]

dictatorship，Why are your eyes green?

[paper laurel]

a ton

[gilded vortex]

Now you’re using 2 Jokers to get X2.5 at most twice per round

[dense egret]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[gilded vortex]

Interesting style though I get the impression the size is off

[gilded vortex]

I think I’d try to find another indicator for “active”

Maybe a background color

[warm spire]

My style is in the size of 200×200.

[dense egret]

well playing only common with beige deck was easy, and you jokers prove it :v

[grand geode]

it's max 4 and thematically

[gilded vortex]

Maybe purple background

[gilded vortex]

Also I just realized the xMult color is weird

[gilded vortex]

I think it would look better if the background had the same resolution

[grand geode]

you just realized

MalkWheezing

[gilded vortex]

I realized it was weird in the inactive text

[gilded vortex]

Then I looked that “xMult” was already looking like that

I first thought it was a stylistic choice just for the inactive

Only later I realized “xMult” was also looking like that

[warm spire]

There's no way around it, this is my personal style.

[grand geode]

i've used the blue and pink in 🏳️‍⚧️ for chips and mult for as long as Trance has existed

also, undiscovered

[jaunty galleon]

hmm

[tropic egret]

hmm

[grand geode]

hmm

[jaunty galleon]

thinking about gasoline atm ($7 if score catches fire). it’s a really win-moreish design

[grand geode]

it is

[jaunty galleon]

what if i changed it to “If score catches fire, earn $15 and this Joker self-destructs”

[dense egret]

more sense

[full edge]

any positive that'll tie into the score catching fire is win-more, honestly, haha

[jaunty galleon]

true, but it’s easier to get one good hand

[grand geode]

not lategame

[wraith seal]

i feel like one-shotting blinds is becoming way too common in balatro modded

[dense egret]

fish

[wraith seal]

so much so that it almost becomes "if you cant oneshot a blind, your build is FUCKED"

[dense egret]

xd

true

[tropic egret]

i try very hard to make this not the case

[jaunty galleon]

oh i have a few elements in my mod that flip that on its head

[tropic egret]

by "very hard" i mean "don't be stupid"

i try don't be stupid to make this not the case

[jaunty galleon]

one of my boss blinds is “+1 Ante if this Blind is not won on final hand”

[dense egret]

??????

[tropic egret]

you see my issue with that is that it seems really weak

like why not just play high card

[grand geode]

Lobotomy Corporation:

[jaunty galleon]

if you have a hand-agnostic build it can destroy your run

[wraith seal]

i have never seen a mod that actively tries to kill its players like lcorp before myst, i think that gives it a pass

[grand geode]

POLTERWORX:

[wraith seal]

polterworx kills my braincells

😭

[tropic egret]

polterworx attempts to kill me physically

[full edge]

it makes interesting boss blind design pretty hard, haha. But I think part of that is just Cryptid skewing any perception of scaling to only matter in e's, so you win on hand 1 or you lose

[grand geode]

john pwx comes to your house and forces a godsmarble ritual on you

[wraith seal]

no please dont fuse me with godsmarble or whatever that thing is

[grand geode]

my way of countering oneshots is just having a damage cap

[gilded vortex]

I still think some other notation for active abilities would be better

[grand geode]

if you can think of one that'd be great

[gilded vortex]

I suggested one above

[grand geode]

right now i'm busy eradicating every single generate_ui

[wraith seal]

wasnt there someone who was working on a chemistry mod, now that i suddenly remember about it

like, combining chemicals type of mod

🤔

[gilded vortex]

Here

[grand geode]

background as in the box background (actually bad) or similar to xmult (meh)

[gilded vortex]

xMult

[tropic egret]

i'd kinda just like write

Active!

[jaunty galleon]

jesse we need to cook

[tropic egret]

like the vanilla jokers do

[gilded vortex]

It’s not a passive ability

[tropic egret]

the purple is fun though

[grand geode]

Active as in you have to press the joker and press use

like a consumable

[gilded vortex]

Maybe just say “Activate to…”

[tropic egret]

oh then why use the word active

[gilded vortex]

Since Consumables don’t say when you can use them

[grand geode]

as opposed to passives

[gilded vortex]

Never heard of “active ability”?

[tropic egret]

i know yes but it's already overlapping with a vanilla term

even if the term is not exactly used it's still the same word

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand geode]

vanilla term only used for loyalty card 🙄

/j

and invis joker

fuck

[tropic egret]

you could use something Cool and Relevant to the Vibe

[gilded vortex]

Where is it used?

[gray cove]

Chat

[tropic egret]

like uhhh Operate

[gray cove]

Whats the square of (-2)

[tropic egret]

4

[teal sky]

Meowww

[grand geode]

Tool Abnormalities use "Use" ingame

[gilded vortex]

I think even just removing the timing would read better

[teal sky]

-2² ≠ (-2)²

[wraith seal]

thats because what you are doing is -(2 squared)

[gray cove]

Oh

[tropic egret]

that's -(2²) vs (-2)² dunkass :p

[gray cove]

Forgot the () exists

[wraith seal]

😭

[tropic egret]

bodmas/pemdas or whatever you call it

[ancient owl]

Hi, what's a good way to stop the game from crashing when I've got mass amounts of numbers and jokers and shit?

Playing cryprid with the one deck which gives you all versions of a voucher when you buy it so I've ended up with like 60 odd jokers, but it crashed last night when I played a hand and idk what this error means other than the game shit itsdlf

[jaunty galleon]

ok now what’s 2i^2

[gilded vortex]

That sounds like something a Homestuck character would say

[tropic egret]

exponents first before subtraction

[teal sky]

-4

[grand geode]

i still have like 40 abnos left then i have to deal with bbw and the birds and plague doctor 🥀

i hate it here

[gilded vortex]

Not -2?

[tropic egret]

-2

[gilded vortex]

Do you do concatenation before or after exponents

[teal sky]

Is it not implied to be squaring the entire 2i

[tropic egret]

concatenation should probably count as an exponentiative-like so i'd argue "at the same time"

[gilded vortex]

I think this kind of expression is ambiguous and should be clarified by whoever wrote it

If you say something ambiguous it’s your fault

Use the tools given to you and write with more clarity

[tropic egret]

2i ²

see you do the 2i first

[gilded vortex]

Concatenation happens before everything else I think

[teal sky]

I dunno if it was just squaring the i term I would see it like 2×i², not 2i²

[gilded vortex]

Again, the onus is on whoever wrote it to make it clear

If your mathematical subcommunity understands, good for you

[tropic egret]

2i² as 2(i²) makes sense to be written in a step i.e. cancellation

[gilded vortex]

But when communicating with more people you need to put effort

[teal sky]

It just feels like one of those things that's technically ambiguous but not really
1 / 2x is also pretty clear

[normal hollow]

why would you put effort into communicating with mathematicians

[tropic egret]

that's not exactly true

[wraith seal]

why are we doing math here

help

[tropic egret]

it's generally considered that in 2i² the i² is done first

[gilded vortex]

Hello N’

[normal hollow]

hii

[gilded vortex]

You’ve just put effort into communicating with a mathematician

[wraith seal]

hi joyousN'

[normal hollow]

it was quite effortless actually

[normal hollow]

hiii

ive been very sick : (

[gilded vortex]

I hope you get your nose back

:^/

[tropic egret]

i don't think N' has lost a nose

that seems very difficult to do

[normal hollow]

never had one

[tropic egret]

oh interesting

[wraith seal]

damn, whys everyone getting sick nowadays, i hope you recover soon

[full edge]

How does an N' with no nose smell?

[stark shale]

Balatro

[normal hollow]

ice gave me his fever

[wraith seal]

im sorry

[tropic egret]

i doubt anyone knows
wait
no, N' knows

[wraith seal]

drink some bepis please

❤️

[full edge]

Terrible! 🤣

[livid meadow]

why are you encouraging consumption of yourself

[wraith seal]

do you see pepsi man telling people NOT to drink pepsi

[stark shale]

[BLANK] is badass

[normal hollow]

i started playing pepsiman but its kinda hard

[full edge]

i'd have prefered if you'd taken all of it

[full edge]

I've not yet fully recovered

[livid meadow]

thats not an answer
youre not pepsi man

[wraith seal]

im a mascot

[livid meadow]

oh cool

[normal hollow]

i am segata sanshiro

[stark shale]

@wraith seal I have a hunch that #1380885719681204304 crashes when you hover the wheel of fortune with the upgrade

[wraith seal]

🤔 huh

[stark shale]

keep In mind this is a gut feeling

[wraith seal]

idk

[stark shale]

Jojo mod is crashing even I hover over the wheel of fortune

[teal sky]

Wha

[wraith seal]

whats teh crash

the

i will take a look at it

[stark shale]

I'm lazy to boot up balatro rn so I'll just grab a screenshot

• me sleep son

[wraith seal]

:3 screenshot?

[gilded vortex]

They have nostrils

[teal sky]

Which upgrade :<

[gilded vortex]

They just don’t have a nose

[full edge]

no, the answer is Terrible 🤣

[wraith seal]

no, they meant that yggdrasil has an upgrade related to Wheel of Fortune

i think its conflicting with JoJo Mod somehow

[gilded vortex]

My answer?

[wraith seal]

ice out of curiosity, are you a dad

[stark shale]

ok I can't find shit

it have to do with extra being a nil value

this is all you have

I'm going to sleep

fruit warrior sleeping gif

[gilded vortex]

Goodnight Misew

Go to sleep Bepis

[wraith seal]

wha

why me 😭

[wraith seal]

wha

i cant do much about it, i will wait for u tmr then lol

[gilded vortex]

Aren’t you in the same timezone

[wide laurel]

my game keeps crashing when i open planet packs

[wraith seal]

yes but

i consider this time pretty early for me :3

[gilded vortex]

Go to bed unc

🥀

[wraith seal]

no grandpa

🥀

[full edge]

can you post the full log

[gilded vortex]

It’s time for your unc sleep 🪫

[wraith seal]

nuh uh

[gilded vortex]

A-hyuck

[wraith seal]

ctrl + C on that crash log

and ctrl + V in here

[wide laurel]

ah okay

[gilded vortex]

You removed the most important part

[wide laurel]

here you go

[full edge]

update Cryptid

might not fix it, but that should at least rule out version changes

[wide laurel]

yeah ill go do that

[wraith seal]

i think it might be a good idea to change the version of my mod every release

[gilded vortex]

I always forget

[wraith seal]

i never realized i put the dependency that low 😭

same

[full edge]

you should, tbh

[fallow bramble]

gacha?

[full edge]

everybody should

[gilded vortex]

Should forget?

[wraith seal]

play Balatro Star Rail btw

if you hate yourself

[tropic egret]

so you see this

[wraith seal]

yes

i see that

[full edge]

Update your version the moment the version you expect people to play has any changes. It makes it so much easier to find incompatibilities

[tropic egret]

you're welcome

[wraith seal]

wait one sec

sign this image

[tropic egret]

fineee

[stark shale]

can I just recreate the crashlog from memory

[wraith seal]

:3

no go to sleep misew

i can fix that tmr

[stark shale]

well ok

[umbral pilot]

Balatro

[tropic egret]

what

[wraith seal]

what

are you trying to ddos me

🤨

[wraith seal]

victin can you sign on canichatandobserve's image

[wide laurel]

opening my run gave me this message, which is probably because i deleted and readded the cryptid mod so ima play til i find another planet pack to see if it still crashes my game

[wraith seal]

😭

[gilded vortex]

Ah I should sign that one

[wraith seal]

yeah

[left dragon]

Random question, but would anyone possibly know whats preventing these jokers from incrementing properly? they properly display when viewed in collections which is the confusing part and everything else in the mod works fine

[stark shale]

I'm going to sign twice

[wraith seal]

no misew dont be so greedy

[stark shale]

man

[wraith seal]

thanks victin

[stark shale]

V.

[gilded vortex]

Be greedy

[stark shale]

ok

[wraith seal]

😭 thats crazy

[full edge]

yeah, updates basically make it so you can no longer continue your current run

[tropic egret]

if you sent this image to someone

[teal sky]

Oh
JoJo Mod does claim ownership of Wheel of Fortune
That might be it

[tropic egret]

they would be able to figure out everyone's personality

[fallow bramble]

I'd love to sign it but idk how to remix

[wraith seal]

thats some insane signature 😭

[wraith seal]

i think its a mobile feature

[fallow bramble]

o

I'll just copy paste it

[gilded vortex]

What’s mine :3

[stark shale]

did you also took ownership of justice and tower

somehow it also conflicting with yggdrasill (but not crashing)

[latent crescent]

What's happening in here

[wraith seal]

yeah that works too

[stark shale]

(as it the upgrade not applying)

[wraith seal]

gathering signatures of everyone :3

[dense egret]

😭??

[dense egret]

why

[stark shale]

also do you want to see me rage at Kim Ji Hoon

[wraith seal]

epic

[teal sky]

Nah I only did Wheel of Fortune

[stark shale]

hm

[wide laurel]

YESSS planet packs work now yayy

[gilded vortex]

It’s like when someone graduates

[stark shale]

wonder what mod did that

[teal sky]

Justice and Tower were untouched

[dense egret]

oh what bepis do?

[gilded vortex]

Bepis graduated from unc to granps

[stark shale]

is it

fusion cookbook

I have no idea

[full edge]

Why did I commit to making all Star Wars movies into jokers today? I'm gonna end up with too many effects based around planets

[dense egret]

fuck hes boomer now? :c

[wraith seal]

ice can you sign on that picture too :3

[stark shale]

I'll just list the effect

[gilded vortex]

Tio Bepis

[ancient owl]

Any ideas on how to prevent this in the future?

[teal sky]

Actually
I did apply a patch to the can_use function
But it wouldn't make sense for it to only affect those two

[ancient owl]

Or is it just whenever the game wants to shit itself

[gilded vortex]

Or maybe Tío for hispanophones

[stark shale]

The Justice
"Select 1 Non-Glass Card to be Glass or 1 Glass Card to be upgraded"

[wraith seal]

thanks ice

[dense egret]

XDDD

[wraith seal]

wait

is that tilted??

😭

[stark shale]

discord remix moment

ice is too heavy for the message to handle

[wraith seal]

🥀

[gilded vortex]

That’s @fiery kayak’s signature

[wraith seal]

damn

[gilded vortex]

They just tilt the image

[wanton rapids]

i see the image has developed

[gilded vortex]

[wraith seal]

damn i guess ice is that heavy 🥀

[fallow bramble]

Wooow..

[full edge]

It's a Talisman crash, if you know which mod Talisman isn't interacting with properly, notify those devs, but otherwise, nothing you can do

[gilded vortex]

Wrong direction

[tropic egret]

hey y'all, adosev here

[wraith seal]

...negative heavy?

[gilded vortex]

Negative weight generating negative gravity

[teal sky]

Hm
I think I made my patch crash proof
It changes it from using card.ability.consumeable.extra.max_highlighted to using card.ability.extra.max_highlighted (if the value exists)

[ivory sinew]

Positive light

[dense egret]

implosion or what did you mean

[gilded vortex]

Positive mass generates positive (attracting) gravity

Negative mass generates negative (repealing) gravity

[dense egret]

shure?

[teal sky]

But then it moves in the negative direction

[full edge]

Someone should add gravity to their mod

[dense egret]

joker slots have thier own gravity

[gilded vortex]

Bunco did have gravity

[dense egret]

the same for blinds

[gilded vortex]

I had some kind of negative gravity

[dense egret]

wait rrally?

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[stark shale]

Moly, Moly
Kanaka Pou Chi Pou

and I'm not doing all that

[ancient owl]

I mean I've only got 4 mods, including talisman, so I don't actually know what it would be, it played fine beforehand, it's just because the number is massive I think

[full edge]

As a joker, no?

Not as a mechanic

[wraith seal]

guys

[full edge]

Let me check, I don't remember what caused the crash

[wraith seal]

what if i add enchantments to be applied on relics too

🤔

-# why do i feel like i had this idea before

[dense egret]

when will you upload all the placeholders?

[wraith seal]

placeholders?

[full edge]

Ah yeah, if you have a screenshot, I'd post it on the Cryptid server, otherwise it's just bad luck

[wraith seal]

the updated art is actually already in the experimental branch, you can try it rn if you want

[full edge]

I think the issue is that a value that shouldn't be allowed to get big was set to be very big

[dense egret]

the bad draws? it sound rude in that way, i dont want to insult

[left dragon]

its not just bunco, bonk was also not incrementing at all

[dense egret]

oh ty, i will

[left dragon]

(pic from collection because i missed it before starting the run over)

[wraith seal]

though theres still a lot of things that are not yet tweaked in that branch, like XP Scaling being insanely big

[dense egret]

uh, i like that part xd

[wraith seal]

lol

[ancient owl]

Probably just bad luck, I didn't actually screenshot the hand which crashed it

[stark shale]

editions be upon ye

[wraith seal]

wait what the

that looks cool

[gilded vortex]

Shader

[stark shale]

also

[ancient owl]

It's likely just a fuck ton massive number, 60 jokers with hologram being like x1e12 or some shit, fuck arse massive

[stark shale]

when relic relayed joker

[dense egret]

The black hole on the left should be bigger

[gilded vortex]

I’ve had it too, as did the Bazaar

[gilded vortex]

That seems to be a bug and not the final effect

[dense egret]

excellent

[stable shore]

can anyone help with this issue

[full edge]

Haha, well, doesn't surprise me, nobody does generally. Only reason to is if you know it'd crash and wanted to help fix the issue. But yeah, Cryptid's very buggy, so you just have to accept it sometimes

[gilded vortex]

Bunco has long been released

[exotic belfry]

Your Maximus version is outdated

[wraith seal]

alright, so, enchantment idea:

- rare odds of sometimes finding an enchantment book as a drop, random effects
- on entering shop, theres a chance there will also be an anvil section where you can enchant your relics once or thrice idk

[stark shale]

Glorified Edition

[dense egret]

smods 0608b?

[stable shore]

i see

[wraith seal]

they would directly increase the relic's stats instead

[exotic belfry]

Keep an eye on this thread to see when updates come out https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1381709540332146749

[wraith seal]

like, increase the relic's XMult by X1.5

[stark shale]

is this just soul engine

[stable shore]

oh wait you’re the guy

[wraith seal]

soul engine increases +Mult, yeah

-# not very useful if you ask me

[wide laurel]

should i do it

[exotic belfry]

Yep lol

[dense egret]

now we have craft and smith

[stable shore]

good mod

[exotic belfry]

thank you

[stark shale]

bet you're gonna get chocolate die

[wide laurel]

awwhhh man what now

spooky was too scary it scared my game 💔

full log

[wind token]

Temporary unable to mod

Fuck my life bro

[wide laurel]

rip

[wraith seal]

i

what happened?

[wind token]

Good fucking question, I got no idea

Bad news, might lose all my data

[fiery kayak]

nah I have a lil artist mark I do

[wraith seal]

sign the picture :#

:3

[wide laurel]

:?

[gray cove]

Booting sequence

Machine id

V1

[hard plank]

I'm cooked

[wind token]

Found the issue most likely

[wide laurel]

hmm theres something odd about that balatro image...... but i just cant put my finger on it........ what mods u using?

[normal hollow]

galdur

[tranquil vessel]

that's just vanilla balatro can't you tell

[ancient owl]

Ah right, yeah it's the only proper mod I've seen people use, so it's the first one I used lol

[wide laurel]

ooohhh right i might have forgot my glasses

[wind token]

Is that ante 4

[tranquil vessel]

[full edge]

It's the biggest one, for sure. But it's prone to crashes, haha. But I guess that's what makes it eh... Game breaking

[ancient owl]

What are some other good mods?

Whether it's content, qol or UI, I've not played with much mods

[gray cove]

V to turn on wifi

[wide laurel]

(i still need help with this BTW)

[full edge]

Normally I'd write a enthusiastic recommendation for a bunch, but it's too hot for me to think, haha. Handy and Galdur are great QoL ones! For content mods, I'd check the modded Balatro wiki and just see what tickles your fancy! Or ask people here to self promo there mods to you, if you're okay with a bunch of pings, haha

But my small recc list is #1217704157574860810 and #1381709540332146749, though I'd play either as a standalone!

[tranquil vessel]

I usually recommend this list #⚙・modding-general message (pick and choose whatever you like from it)

[jaunty galleon]

SHAMELESS SHILL

[gilded vortex]

Mine

[gilded vortex]

Ice is too hot

Call that global warming

[grand geode]

you should keep your essay somewhere to copypaste it

[full edge]

It's 30 degrees in my room, but I haven't cat proved my windows yet so cooling off has been an issue today

[full edge]

No they need to be organic

[wide laurel]

uhm any smart people in chat? cuz i aint unfortunately

[paper laurel]

can someone screenshot a neurosama joker

[hard plank]

sorry

[tranquil vessel]

If you're already on the latest cryptid, I suggest asking in the cryptid discord to see what they know

[paper laurel]

🥺

[wide laurel]

i did but noone has said anything yet

so i thought one of you could help

[hard plank]

why do you need it

[paper laurel]

"Hold on i have perfect image for this conversation"

but my laptop is low battery rn

[gilded vortex]

Smug Neuro when

[full edge]

when does it happen?

I also should check on what the cryptid/almanac compat mod does because I've seen it show up multiple times when people aren't playing with POLTERWORX and I don't know why that'd be necessary

[normal dawn]

go on, make them sing

[indigo sonnet]

Is there a mod that lets you stack card enhancements? It would be so funny and chaotic. “Yo here’s my bonus card, lucky card, multi card ace with a gold seal and formed of molten steel and gold”

[full edge]

I know @wind turtle was messing around with that, but I don't think there's a mod that actually implements that yet

[normal dawn]

ice :D

[dense egret]

that just let you stack playing cards, but nothing with enchancement or editions, the mod is Yorick

[full edge]

Hmm?

[dense egret]

probably i said all wrong

[full edge]

Oh, yeah, no, I meant their seals on everything experiments

[dense egret]

oh makes sense

you dont know yorick?

[full edge]

Nope

[dense egret]

it lets you stack jokers and playing cards, works glitched sometimes

[wide laurel]

it happaned randomly, my game seems to be alright again, ill let you know if it happens again

it happaned again, i was opening a tarot pack this time

[deft harbor]

Question to the community: for those who don’t like the bonus enhancement, why? What might encourage you to pick that enhancement up?

[lunar sluice]

im pretty sure it literally has polterworx as a dependency idk

[full edge]

can't tell you what's going wrong exactly, but I suspect it's just an interaction between two mods that's not accounted for

[wide laurel]

hmmm what should i try to do?

[normal hollow]

having a 1 in 15 chance to give $20

[full edge]

Hmm, checking the line, that shouldn't happen 🤔 I wonder if maybe another mod you're running injects into Cryptid or takes ownership in some way? Only way to solve it is by finding the offending mod and disabling it

[coral ocean]

need help

this happens whenever i use a planet card

(i use a lotta mods)

[full edge]

yeah, can't check that with that many mods, sorry

[coral ocean]

:(

[jaunty galleon]

wild joker is dead

hello, paint the town red

[paper laurel]

where is ghat joker from

[jaunty galleon]

it will be in my mod, soon

[paper laurel]

:D

yum

[wide laurel]

crashed right as i finished a blind

[gleaming tendon]

gamer crash :(

[full edge]

Gonna be the same crash every time

[wanton rapids]

it's fine if a bit weak

[full edge]

Only way to fix it is by finding the offending mod

[gleaming tendon]

lucky card is just too good, glass and steel are also really good for scaling, mult card is better for x mult jokers. If i need chips ill take it

[lone frost]

what undertale/deltarune joker should i make now

[gleaming tendon]

also idk why but maximus seems to be crashing my game alot

[dense quail]

hi so i wanna download cryptid, but ive followed a few tutorials and the furthest ive got it is a golden seal on the title ace, but no other mod elements. can someone post a step by step guide to download cryptid?

[jaunty galleon]

ferryman

[gleaming tendon]

Crash report for whoever wants to look at it

[wide laurel]

have you done the bird that carries you over a disproportionally small gap?

[lone frost]

you mean the singing dude of the river?

[jaunty galleon]

yeah

tra la la

[lone frost]

no + proportionally

the bird is awesomely accurate

when lifting you

[wide laurel]

do the birdie

[lone frost]

ill do both ok

[wide laurel]

and maybe berdly too if you havent

[neat dome]

I have no idea how this is happening- It always does it before I can actually click on anything (it properly opens up, but once I can start interacting with things, it does this). Also, yes, I am using a lot of mods

[gleaming tendon]

there goes a really cool run i was looking forward to

[vital dome]

this should be illegal

[dense quail]

can someone explain how to download cryptid please? ive watched videos but it seems theyre outdated

[gleaming tendon]

morefluff would never crash on me though, peak mod

[dense quail]

please

i beg

[full edge]

Go to the Cryptid GitHub page, or check the Cryptid page on the modded Balatro wiki

[deft harbor]

Catty

[dense quail]

modded wiki has nothing about downloading, and the github says basically nothing 😔

[tranquil vessel]

Check out either of the top 2 videos in this thread #1349064230825103441 message

One is for manual install, the other for BMM

(iirc)

[dense quail]

i havent watched the second one

ill try that one i guess

[vital dome]

i learned here, the problem is... i forgot

[dense quail]

[vital dome]

i dont remember who helped me but was 3 good souls

[lone frost]

sure

[prime mortar]

BRO YOU HAVE 100 MODS

it can not be our fault

[coral ocean]

dont worry i found it

[vital dome]

balatro cryptid exotic music remembers me off a cool roguelike called GONN3R

[coral ocean]

its visibility

[prime mortar]

it was morefluff