⚙・modding-general

[hard plank]

i will only do the debuff

[wanton rapids]

just make it go once that's already busted

[gilded vortex]

I wouldn’t mind the retriggers if I understood how they worked

So far I imagine that you can retrigger at least once

But I’m not sure

[wanton rapids]

i think it's the number of jokers that are outside the loop?

[quasi sage]

Making a joker
Good or bad idea?

[gilded vortex]

But why

[hard plank]

All Jokers between the two portals are debuffed but gives X1.5 Mult each

[tropic egret]

you retrigger as many times as nonretriggered jokers

[wanton rapids]

idk speedy thing in speedy thing out

[tropic egret]

i don't actually understand the flavour of the retrigger mechanic

[gilded vortex]

Interesting but I don’t see why you’d sell it

[tropic egret]

i feel like you should code it so calculation loops forever for that joker until the game crashes

[prime dock]

what mod gives you that

[hard plank]

cryptid

[prime dock]

no the menu

[hard plank]

galdur

ts pmo icl ikiab

[prime dock]

🥀

[gilded vortex]

What does that mean

[wanton rapids]

can you use letters

[hard plank]

🥀

anyway

[gilded vortex]

Why is everyone a dying flower

[tropic egret]

dying flower is the new skull

[hard plank]

i was gonna make it so that it retriggers the same mount to amount of jokers that are not in any portals

[wanton rapids]

isn't that just canvas but better (?)

[gilded vortex]

I thought empty battery was the new dying flower

[tropic egret]

its like cottagecore skull emoji

[wanton rapids]

famously balanced joker

[gilded vortex]

And I never used skull

[hard plank]

probably yeah

[gilded vortex]

Just 😭

[hard plank]

legendary type shi

[gilded vortex]

But why

What’s the flavor

[hard plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

scrapping it

don't like retriggers that much personally anyway

just wanted something that kinda resembles the actual portal

[harsh glacier]

Retriggers my behated,,,,,

[hard plank]

i guess one retrigger works

[wanton rapids]

one trigger is how I thought it would work tbh

[hard plank]

i think that is more balance yeah

scaling with other jokers is a bad idea

[wanton rapids]

could do the momentum thing in absurd maybe

[hard plank]

interesting actually

[wanton rapids]

also for flavour I'd make it the number of jokers before the loop

[hard plank]

yea was thinking about that

speedy thing goes in

thing is

[wanton rapids]

congratulations to speedy thing for coming out

[hard plank]

i want it to retrigger in sequence

it would be more fun to look at

[wanton rapids]

good luck you poor soul

[hard plank]

😭

i think ill only keep the debuff for adequate

also keep the copies at one

it's already fucking broken

retrigger will be absurd only

[wanton rapids]

watching a northernlion video and he said "straddling" and i got violently mentally jumpscared it's horrible

[hard plank]

😭

PTSD

[round ore]

dude

[hard plank]

nothing out of the ordinary

[warm swan]

I feel like yggdrasil has an unbalanced exp gain system. I am consistantly getting this much, but I still haven't breached Level 1 despite being on Round 5. @wraith seal

[round ore]

btw i cant play cryptid im an ios player

im just watching a youtuber and talking abt interesting shit

[hard plank]

https://x.com/juanbuis/status/1932193724685017439

juan (@juanbuis)

very unfortunate play button

X · Jun 9, 2025, 9:50 PM

😭

[hard plank]

😭

[round ore]

yeah

[hard plank]

i am trying to get more people to play my mod

[full edge]

yeah, you're not supposed to gain a lot of levels per run, haha

[warm swan]

Well there used to be times when I was getting like 3 levels per round. Why?

[full edge]

not sure. Maybe Bepis lowered the level gain for Cryptid shenanigans?

[normal hollow]

ok i will play it

[hard plank]

😭

[umbral pilot]

play this mod

[harsh glacier]

wtf

where is mr lovely

[umbral pilot]

dead

[hard plank]

whee

whet

im adding liquid glass youtube thumbnail to my mod

[umbral pilot]

I think tha's a wodnerful idea

canty type cat on keybdo

[mystic fossil]

Hi team

Megabits btw. Not bytes

[hard plank]

good luck vro

[warm swan]

Maybe lol. I have like no Cryptid stuff this run btw (I have so many other broken mods lol. Also, I mainly use broken decks because funny)

[hard plank]

oh.

[mystic fossil]

It's close enough

I'm not Canadian tho

[hard plank]

what even happened

[umbral pilot]

and I thought I had it bad with my 20 mb/s hotspot

[mystic fossil]

I woke up and my wifi barely exists

[umbral pilot]

also play aiko mod

[hard plank]

😭

wtf

[mystic fossil]

I'm on mobile data rn

Not sure why everything broke

[umbral pilot]

devil

[mystic fossil]

Not even outa bed yet

And shivs fucked

[umbral pilot]

internet here is dirt cheap and very fast but I can't get any until I have my id

so hotspot for now

go back to bed maybe it'll improve

[warm swan]

Should I delete Bonus Blinds? I don't see the upside here.

This happens often btw

I never buy these

[hard plank]

deltarune chapter 3

[hard plank]

so you know what's coming

[warm swan]

Oh. That makes sense.

[mystic fossil]

So

It's worse

Still megabits

[warm swan]

Can someone help? Everytime I try to click a card, it drags instead. Can Handy do something?

[mystic fossil]

So divide by 8 for a normal number

[teal sky]

[hard plank]

hiii @teal sky

[normal hollow]

it's bottomless

[teal sky]

hiiii

[hard plank]

:3

[teal sky]

:3

[chrome mason]

just started modded balatro, any qol mods I should get?

I have handy already

[tranquil vessel]

handy and galdur

[paper laurel]

Yahimod and galdur

[wanton rapids]

yahimod is my favourite qol mod

[hard plank]

yahimod is my favourite qol mod

[paper laurel]

yahimod is my favourite qol mod

[hard plank]

fuck

[fair thistle]

maybe instead it should just tell you but it be more expensive?

[wanton rapids]

explonentiation...

[hard plank]

raaargh

[fair thistle]

Either that or give a reward

[paper laurel]

can someone tell me what this DO

[fair thistle]

randomizes

[hard plank]

randomly givs chips

[paper laurel]

oh thx

[gilded vortex]

minecraft:magenta_shulker_box

[hard plank]

basicallty misprint joker but chips

[fair thistle]

randomly chips XChips money

Random

[paper laurel]

also how hitori goto

[hard plank]

my mod

[paper laurel]

omfg

:flush:

😳

im hypermetabolic rn

i meant hyperventilating

[hard plank]

wha

wtf is this code

it works

/sherug

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[paper laurel]

how the peak skin....

i want...

guh

[hard plank]

i made it....

[paper laurel]

may i nom nom

[hard plank]

uh #1328621901496713328 ?

[paper laurel]

thank u thank u

[hard plank]

idk i just like that turret a lot

[paper laurel]

this is why the world keeps healing

[hard plank]

wtf

no one told me about this peak vinyl cover

i have the CD which the cover looks like this

[teal sky]

👀

[normal hollow]

cd looks better

[paper laurel]

vinyl looks on god

[wind token]

Is there a mod that lets you disable certain jokers and other stuff from showing in a run?

[hard plank]

banner

[wind token]

Thank you

[limber cairn]

am i missing anything notable for possible effect modifiers?

- Ranks
- Face Cards
- Money
- Chips
- Mult
- XMult
- Hands
- Discards
- Hand Levels [up or down]
- Create [Tarot, Spectral, Planet, Playing Card, Joker, Tags, Seals, Stickers]
- Eternal
- Perishable
- Enhancements
- Editions
- Seals
- Debuff
- Tags
- Destroy```

ie like stuff a joker effect could interact with

trying to make a list so i can come up with joker effects easier

[hard plank]

destroy cards

[limber cairn]

ah yeah

[hard plank]

@zenith loom

[zenith loom]

yooo

peak

[teal sky]

the number of polychromes continues to grow

[hard plank]

least powerful modded joker

also check this out

[zenith loom]

can i steal

[limber cairn]

aikoyori rotat e

[hard plank]

ull have to switch the simple event add for the base game create event but

[wind token]

I also need to steal this

[zenith loom]

im sure ill figure out what that means evenetually

[hard plank]

oops

why is pow *

there

[hard plank]

i just

put every util function in misc

[zenith loom]

all of this weird technical stuff is exactly why ive been hardcoding scoremod this entire time

i am literally not a good enough coder to understand what anybody is saying to me most of the time

[hard plank]

basically

i put functions that can be reused later

as a separate function

so i can reuse

them

yk

later

[zenith loom]

i believe that makes sense yeah

[hard plank]

shiiiiit

[zenith loom]

LOL

also aiko why are your dependencies so strict

[hard plank]

uh

[zenith loom]

i have bleeding edge lovely and it still wont let me in

[hard plank]

0.8.0 should work eh?

i target latest stable version of everything

[zenith loom]

ah

i always download latest commit on everything

[hard plank]

i use latest smods too

[merry olive]

infinite rerolls

[exotic belfry]

What's on the other side

[merry olive]

nothing

doesnt matter

if i flip

it removes the extra thing in the shop

and if i flip again

it puts a new thing

[hard plank]

LMAO

[exotic belfry]

lole

[zenith loom]

oh my god

double sided is peak

[hard plank]

thank you ruby

[merry olive]

this is why i love mixing mods

u get stupid shit like that

[hard plank]

oh shiiit

i just thought of something

[exotic belfry]

Cryptid is a dubious one to mix mods with

ngl

[hard plank]

each kessoku band member specifically targets a suit

it works perfectly

this might be peak...

[merry olive]

wdym by dubious

[hard plank]

istg

[exotic belfry]

It changes a lot of vanilla code making patches very hard for other mods to execute

[hard plank]

my mod will never be released at this pace

[torpid prairie]

If I ever wanted to go back to vanilla how do I remove said mods safely while keeping them (I assume copy the folder and just remove lovely and steamodded)

[merry olive]

thats fair, one of the decks of maximus just doesnt work

[exotic belfry]

Nuclear?

[merry olive]

which was a bummer cuz it was the one deck i wnated to use with cryptid

yeah

[exotic belfry]

Yep

I am well aware of that

[merry olive]

sleuth wins again

[merry olive]

just ntoice the maximus in the username

[hard plank]

is it s a single Spade

[exotic belfry]

Blame Cryptid for that™️

[exotic belfry]

Yep hello hi I'm da dev

[hard plank]

hey grok do i call one spades card a single spade or a single spades

[harsh glacier]

hi astra

[exotic belfry]

hi haya

[harsh glacier]

i need to add compat with your mod

[exotic belfry]

bet

[hard plank]

maximus ability for aikoyori when

[harsh glacier]

because your mod adds exponential operator

[exotic belfry]

[hard plank]

haya added kosmos ...

(i broke mfkaa with freedom deck)

[harsh glacier]

interitus is the closest im ever adding anything mfkaa related to the mod

[zenith loom]

operator shenanigans aren't a trademark of kosmos

[gentle quarry]

question: do tarots need smods.atlas or no

[hard plank]

yes

they do

anything that needs image needs that

[zenith loom]

this is way cooler anyways

[exotic belfry]

There are default fallbacks but yes you should have them

[gentle quarry]

it would be smods.consumable right

[normal hollow]

btw newest smods has a way to do multiline names without generate_ui shenanigans

[harsh glacier]

courtesy of you know who

[hard plank]

🔥

[zenith loom]

oh really?

[merry olive]

holy peak...

[exotic belfry]

[hard plank]

the font feature is so good

[normal hollow]

yeah just make the name a table

[gentle quarry]

HUGO

[exotic belfry]

Hugo has arrived

[hard plank]

it's peam...

@normal hollow literally unstoppable naming

[zenith loom]

this is so peak

[exotic belfry]

He's lowkey the worst Maximus legendary but he tries his best

[hard plank]

he tries

...

tjats's all thatm attes

[exotic belfry]

real

[harsh glacier]

im adding balatro to balatro

[merry olive]

no yeah i rerolled after it skipped both small and big blind but he cool

[exotic belfry]

LMAO

[merry olive]

wouldnt work

[peak ember]

i do not know if this is the correct place to ask but when i check my deck on balatro my game crashes
i don't have any content mod they're just skins and qol mods
can someone help me?

[harsh glacier]

yet another reverse tarot mod

[gentle quarry]

make them negative

[exotic belfry]

btw haya if you wanna do some compatibility Nuclear deck, it's mostly handled by a modifier called G.modifiers.mxms_nuclear_size

[merry olive]

omg tavros nitram

[teal sky]

it is interesting to see that the first idea i had for a mod is pretty popular

[prime dock]

hi

[zenith loom]

i could cry tears of joy

[exotic belfry]

beautiful

[zenith loom]

i hated the generate_ui method

[merry olive]

what context could opening a standard pack do that

ok i think if i had to guess

there was a glitched jack and it tried to multiply the chip value but there is the + mult to cards of maximus

[dense egret]

talisman

[exotic belfry]

This is why I don't take Cryptid into account

[merry olive]

gelatto

[merry olive]

no yeah fair

ill jsut reset and not open the pack lol

[latent crescent]

You know what? I'm working on own version of Talisman

[harsh glacier]

standard pack
look inside
Oops! The game crashed:
functions/common_events.lua:1362: attempt to compare number with table

[normal hollow]

let's goo

string bignums when

[latent crescent]

Look at this beauty

[merry olive]

about what happened rn yes

[harsh glacier]

the annoying thing about talisman is that its basically solved if lua 5.1 had support for __lt being able to compare with other metatables or types

alas that is not the case

you have to get a version of luajit with 5.2 compat for that to work

[hard plank]

aikoyori getting more op by the day

[latent crescent]

I expect that my implementation will require no needs for to_big function at all

All converts automatically

[exotic belfry]

If you pull this off you will become legend

[hard plank]

deltarune reference

NO

[latent crescent]

Making this work not enough. Optimization is a big concern too

[zenith loom]

we love none synergy

[harsh glacier]

what would be the three heroes that appear at world's edge here then

[hard plank]

chapter 4 spoiiler

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[limber cairn]

im sorry, supercommon?

[harsh glacier]

im adding chapter 4 to my mod

[hard plank]

what the fuck

[hard plank]

yeah

also i love risk cards

[zenith loom]

is this more common than common or less common than common

[limber cairn]

yeah

[hard plank]

more common

[harsh glacier]

@tall vortex wtf!

[zenith loom]

mitosis

[hard plank]

subarashii,,.

[harsh glacier]

spongebob patrick and squidward mr krabs

[tall vortex]

:D

[hard plank]

i played 1 hand

crazy

ok

[gray cove]

Bro played nill

What’s the return for ^

[full edge]

Honestly, kinda wish Cryptid would notify and not be compatible with mods explicitly unless they are made to be compatible, because man, people just assume everything is a cryptid add on

[normal hollow]

i mean you can just make your mod conflict with cryptid

i dont like conflicts because they dont prevent lovely patches from loading tho

[zenith loom]

im gonna add debuff_hand support to astronomica scoremod but specifically exclude the tax because i hate the tax

[full edge]

Yeah but then it's my fault, haha

[hard plank]

i hate the tax

[full edge]

I mean more that Cryptid just makes a big pop up for things like it's misprint deck being like 'Cryptid does a lot of weird thing and has not been optimized for these mods'

[zenith loom]

how does cryptid consistently keep letting garbage blinds get past screening

the tax, turquoise tornado, vermilion virus

[peak ember]

can someone help me with this?

[normal hollow]

you need to update to the dev version of smods

[hard plank]

oh hey my paint job mod being used

[gray cove]

What mod now ?

[peak ember]

why and how?

[full edge]

I suspect most blinds are from before they had screeners, no?

[hard plank]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Aikoyori_Paint_Job

[gray cove]

Chat do i make a deck skin for teto and teto only

[zenith loom]

perhaps

[hard plank]

quite literally

[full edge]

I used this last week!

[normal hollow]

latest release has a bug with deck view
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[gilded vortex]

The Tax?

[peak ember]

yoo it's kinda really awesome thank you for making it

[hard plank]

yay

i also have this

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Vocalatro

[zenith loom]

this is peak

[gray cove]

I love vocalatro

[hard plank]

i want to add character suit

[peak ember]

do i just replace my smod version with this and it will fix it?

[hard plank]

yeah

[gray cove]

Teto suit

[peak ember]

peak

[gray cove]

Start with 52 teto suit cards

[merry olive]

i crashed balatro with stack overflow, first time

cant even open it to press esc on the report

[peak ember]

yeah it got fixed thank you

[merry olive]

gonna have to task manager

i crashed task manager trying to close balatro

[gentle quarry]

rate the bucket

[merry olive]

the top curve and bottom curve should be equal

beside sthat pretty good

[gentle quarry]

no

[merry olive]

what

wdym no?

like

[gentle quarry]

no means no

[merry olive]

i mean this

[gentle quarry]

exactly

no

[merry olive]

???

ill rate it a 2 just cuz im evil then

[gentle quarry]

i would not like to do that becasue i dont wnna

[hard plank]

it looks kinda weird

maybe that's just me

[gentle quarry]

its a bucket man

[merry olive]

also the shadow wouldnt curve like that

its not a sphere

[gentle quarry]

sure it is

[merry olive]

im not trying to be mean here just constructive cirticism

[hard plank]

here is my bucket

[merry olive]

dear god...

[gentle quarry]

thats a cool bucket

[merry olive]

thats a neat bucket

[hard plank]

trust

[gentle quarry]

thats more of a vase or barrel than a bucket

[harsh glacier]

i can see the barrel but like

a vase?????

[merry olive]

i see the vase

[gilded vortex]

Homestuck joke

[merry olive]

homestuck or tf2, pick ur poison

[gilded vortex]

Homestuck

[gilded vortex]

The Donkey Kong barrel but shiny

[hard plank]

it's not a barrel

[lean dune]

not me lurking for no reason

[gilded vortex]

It looks like a barrel

[hard plank]

HI AURE

[gilded vortex]

Hello aure

[merry olive]

i think the not handle kinda throws me off

[gilded vortex]

How are you

[merry olive]

makes it look less buckety

[lean dune]

i'm tired

[gilded vortex]

v_v

[hard plank]

the shimmer bucket does not have handle i believe

[gilded vortex]

College?

What’s a shimmer bucket

[fallow bramble]

This is so sad I could have won with 3 calculators for the flex

[merry olive]

well that doesnt look very buckety but fair its pretty close

what dimension are the joker usually

like pixel wide

[hard plank]

71x95

[gilded vortex]

Where is it from

[hard plank]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Bottomless_Buckets

[merry olive]

ty!

[gilded vortex]

With 1 pixel transparent border

[merry olive]

so 69x 93 on practice?

[gilded vortex]

Which makes for a 69 by 93 working area

[hard plank]

drawing

[merry olive]

yeye

[lean dune]

not in particular, i just stayed up late sunday night v_v

[hard plank]

lamp oil

[merry olive]

god i love card sleeves just for yellow sleeve

[lean dune]

i better go to sleep though if i don't wanna be as unproductive tmr as i was today

[hard plank]

have you been doing fine lately

i heard you are tired

n shit

[lean dune]

i guess I've been a bit more stressed than usual

[hard plank]

get some rest dawg

[fallow bramble]

Hi Aure 👋

[lean dune]

but i'm doing fine none the less, nothing I can't manage

[sly plover]

Does Balatro have a Steam Workshop? Is it known if it has one?

[fallow bramble]

No

[lean dune]

hi sdm

[fallow bramble]

It has a mod manager tho

[lean dune]

how are you doing

[fallow bramble]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1339375696254074942

[fallow bramble]

Been a while since I heard from you. And you know, summer heath coming in so I'm dying

[harsh glacier]

hi aure smods

i need to go back to sleep

i have been awake since 2 am

i should never read manga when i need to go back to sleep

[fallow bramble]

Which manga

[lean dune]

oof, what's the temps these days where you're at?

[gilded vortex]

Go to sleep haya

[harsh glacier]

wrong way to use healing magic which us like the 5th isekai manga I've read this year so far

[fallow bramble]

Around 25°C

[gilded vortex]

Huh I find it’s still chill where I am 🤔

[harsh glacier]

i know slop when i see it and this thankfully isn't

[fallow bramble]

(I come from far north so I'm not used to rough temps)

[gilded vortex]

25 °C I’d say is average

[ivory sinew]

How would I retrigger cards via a voucher?

[fallow bramble]

Tomorrow apparently it's 36°C 💀

[gilded vortex]

Leaning high

[lean dune]

that's... less pleasant

it's supposed to reach 31°C over here by Friday

[fallow bramble]

Sad

[gilded vortex]

I think where I am it’ll be 27 °C

[hard plank]

summer in full swing?

[gilded vortex]

Good luck

[teal sky]

36°C sounds nice

[gilded vortex]

30 °C is hot

[teal sky]

[lean dune]

i don't think so

[gilded vortex]

But at least it’s not 40 °C

[fallow bramble]

It's June after all

Can't wait to die in August

[harsh glacier]

meanwhile its usually wet like a sock here most of the day

[gilded vortex]

Also it’s less humid and more windy in the middle of the continent

[fallow bramble]

lucky

[teal sky]

Its like the perfect temperature :<

[harsh glacier]

summer here is around march-may

lmao

there's only 2 seasons on the equator

[gilded vortex]

I didn’t understand “dry versus humid heat” until I moved somewhere that wasn’t humid all the time

[harsh glacier]

really fucking hot

or really fucking wet

[lean dune]

around 25 works great for me, imo it gets worse above 30

[teal sky]

Ive been wearing sweaters every day since mid september i want it to be warm again

[lean dune]

fair enough

[ivory sinew]

@wind turtle Would you know how I can make a voucher retrigger all scored cards using the context function?

I think I don't know what contexts to use

[gilded vortex]

In Rio de Janeiro people will put on coats when the temperature drops below 20 °C

[fallow bramble]

20 is too much for me

[gilded vortex]

Check the wiki

[ivory sinew]

Also it's FLORIDA HEAT here

[fallow bramble]

I really like when its fucking cold

Winters don't feel that way anymore

[ivory sinew]

I ask because it seems vouchers like to be different and not work the same!

[teal sky]

Im doing that in canada

[wind turtle]

if context.repetition and context.cardarea == G.play then return {repetitions = 1} end

[ivory sinew]

Mb I kinda sounded bitchy there

I've been nonstop coding Madcap to get it out

Thank you king

[gilded vortex]

I think I acclimated to cold weather better than I had anticipated

Though I prefer mild temperatures

Neither too hot nor too cold

[teal sky]

i used to like when it was really cold and then i took estradiol and lost all my cold tolerance

[ivory sinew]

I think HRT has made me less heat tolerant, which is bad cause. It hot down here

That stuff is crazy

[normal hollow]

it's nice here

[teal sky]

[gilded vortex]

That’s cold

[fallow bramble]

Can I live with you?

[ivory sinew]

Brrrr 14 degrees

[normal hollow]

yes

[fallow bramble]

Awesome

[gilded vortex]

Oh wait that’s N’

I thought it was Lars

[normal hollow]

same person honestly

[gilded vortex]

Another anime boy avatar for me to get confused by

[fallow bramble]

Who knows they might be the same person

lol

[gilded vortex]

You, Lars, Nether

[normal hollow]

whos nether

[hard plank]

my self insert is too op

[teal sky]

it's been unusually hot for this time of year
At least up in Canada

[hard plank]

wtf

[teal sky]

But that's based

[gilded vortex]

@oak fern

[fallow bramble]

Bet, saw the wildfires going on in there

[gilded vortex]

Dang

[fallow bramble]

Blackboard hater

[oak fern]

YO

[normal hollow]

nether i barely know er

[oak fern]

I have been summoned

[gilded vortex]

That’s like a busted version of my Flush Hearts Joker

[gilded vortex]

I’m always mistaking your for @tranquil vessel

[teal sky]

That may be what's contributing to it

[gilded vortex]

And I guess now N’ for Lars

[tranquil vessel]

bruh

[fallow bramble]

Victin just performed necromancy holy

[gilded vortex]

Next I’m gonna start reporting Paperback bugs to N’

[teal sky]

Like half of the country is on fire and that's not an exaggeration

[tranquil vessel]

anime profile picture discrimination

[stable shore]

how’s my deck looking

[hard plank]

ill settle this once and for all

[gilded vortex]

Anime boy blindness

[fallow bramble]

Gl beating Ante 2

[fair thistle]

cryptid is a terrifying creature and must be played alone lest you scare the vanilla balanced mods and their little balancelings

[gilded vortex]

All anime boys have the same face

[ivory sinew]

LOL

[ivory sinew]

Te Plant

[gilded vortex]

N’ecroman’cy

[normal hollow]

itoshiki does look very pretty anime boy-esque in my pfp

[fair thistle]

necro'man'cy

[gilded vortex]

What about when thunk reworks Wild cards?

[gilded vortex]

Who’s itoshiki

[oak fern]

we hella different blud 🥀

[exotic belfry]

The masses are complaining about Nuclear Deck incompatibilities again

[gilded vortex]

None

[normal hollow]

from my favorite anime Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei

[hard plank]

i am not asking about gameplay standpoint

[ivory sinew]

Nuclear Deck be like LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS

[exotic belfry]

TRAPAHOLIC

[stable shore]

scoring wise, definitely a close one

[gilded vortex]

If it doesn’t say “(Must have room)” then it doesn’t need to have room

[exotic belfry]

Barely

[fallow bramble]

(Must have room in your room)

[normal hollow]

that's what i do

[hard plank]

welp

i forgot about that

[brisk seal]

(mustn't have room)

[normal hollow]

(may have room)

[gilded vortex]

But also I’m curious

The general suspicion is that thunk will add Wild Ranks

[stable shore]

it takes 16 seconds to calculate a high card

[fallow bramble]

What if I made a joker that ddos the player so I can get the area of their room and give it as mult

[brisk seal]

(9 in 10 jokers recommend having room)

[normal hollow]

based, forcing smods to add quantum ranks

[exotic belfry]

Who’s the one joker that doesn’t hmmm????

[ivory sinew]

Then you get The Cop as a boss blind

[gilded vortex]

The area is TREE(3) (in units that make the area of my room be TREE(3))

[fallow bramble]

Wow awesome!!!!

[fallow bramble]

naneinf

[gilded vortex]

No that’s different

Wild Ranks is easier to implement

[brisk seal]

Certificate

[exotic belfry]

Pretentious ass card

[merry olive]

oh this is nasty

[exotic belfry]

Oh nah

[fair thistle]

I did the same exact thing LOL

[exotic belfry]

Exponential to the moon

[fair thistle]

wish it didn't have 1 joker slots but ig thats what you've gotta do to balance the blatantly overpowered deck

lol

[exotic belfry]

Yeeeeeep

It was such a funny idea I knew I had to do it but I still wanted to attempt to balance it

[normal hollow]

isn't the difference that mods would support bigger hand size and different combinations of ranks? that still means that vanilla implementation of wild ranks would necessitate quantum ranks in smods

[fair thistle]

that makes me think, what if there was a deck where downsides of things were removed and if you used the sleeve it instead removed the downsides of the deck

[brisk seal]

removes downside of Red Deck

[fair thistle]

REAL

[exotic belfry]

that would take a lot of checking for downsides in the first place

[fair thistle]

Yeah....

maybe instead when the deck changes the joker slots to anything below 5 it removes that change

same for hands and discards

and some extra things ig

No blind size changes

[exotic belfry]

Actually do sleeves apply after decks?

[fair thistle]

Hm...

[fair thistle]

I know that sleeves can synergize with decks but could they dynamically synergize...?

maybe instead, all the base values (hands discards joker slots hand size consumable slots) can't go BELOW their base

[lean dune]

the bad part about this is that thunk would implement an algorithms for straights that works with wild ranks but it's probably gonna be so hardcoded that it won't even be useful for a potential smods implementation

[fair thistle]

That way it makes sense since it doesn't HAVE to specifically synergize with the deck

[brisk seal]

throughts on art for this

[fair thistle]

Because it just floors all the values

[normal hollow]

oh yeah 100%

[latent crescent]

Okay, first attempt to make string behave as number not really successful, require some more work and debugging rather just ingecting in entire game

[exotic belfry]

I think you’re on the money about that lol

[gilded vortex]

No

Different combinations require a more complex algorithm

[normal hollow]

yes

i didn't say they would be the same, i just said that mods are going to want to expand on that and then you will need the more complex stuff

[gilded vortex]

I’m assuming the algorithm would be a small variation of the current Shortcut combined with Four Fingers

[gilded vortex]

SMODS already wants to expand on it

[lean dune]

thunk's algorithm can assume that the graph of rank connections is either a perfect cycle or a specific object that's vaguely circular if shortcut is present

[fair thistle]

what if there was a new face card rank called idiot

[gilded vortex]

It’s just that no one has and it hasn’t been considered a priority

[normal hollow]

victin sometimes i think you dont read what is said lol

[lean dune]

custom ranks can do arbitarily weird things however

[gilded vortex]

If it’s in the middle, it’s Shortcut. If it’s in the end, it’s Four Fingers

[gilded vortex]

What do you mean

[normal hollow]

i know smods is considering it, i was making a joke about thunk forcing it to be sooner

it's not funny if i need to explain it :/

[lean dune]

which is completely useless as soon as you introduce split paths that aren't shortcut-shaped

[limber cairn]

which effect we like more for Worlds

[lean dune]

which is why I expect no degree of usefulness for the general case out of something like that

[fair thistle]

I think the XMult is cooler because hand

[gilded vortex]

First, I disagree that it would make it unfunny. Second, I also disagree that thunk doing it would force SMODS to do so, since so far it has been kicking its legs to avoid implementing any kind of partial support to it

[exotic belfry]

The first one feels more on brand

[gilded vortex]

Although I’m not sure what was the end of that Card.is_rank issue

[gray cove]

Definitely 1 , there’s already a lot of jokers that has xmult and the skips are ass

[hard plank]

alright

[gilded vortex]

Third

[fair thistle]

bro.......,., ,.,.,.,.

[gray cove]

Me when kita

[fair thistle]

Naaaaaaaaa that's op

[gilded vortex]

Exactly

[gray cove]

BALANCE MY ASS

[lean dune]

on that note imma get ready for bed

good night y'all

[gray cove]

Gn

[brisk seal]

gn

[fair thistle]

Nah, balance that attitude

Nerd

[gilded vortex]

Goodnight

[gray cove]

Damn

[round ore]

KOSJDAOLDUJ8IAWJDA

[gray cove]

I got humbled

😭😭🙏

[fair thistle]

lmao

[gray cove]

Hello

[fair thistle]

[round ore]

kita is definitely OP, but the balance in the mods is optional

[hard plank]

???????????

[round ore]

hiii

[fair thistle]

what the fuck

[hard plank]

alright then

[zenith loom]

even your rough placeholder sketches are drawn beautifully 😭

[round ore]

that's better

[gilded vortex]

That’s just Flush Hearts XP

[fair thistle]

🫳

I fucking love kasane teto

[hard plank]

you can pick which one you want to play with

[gray cove]

Same

I’ll be making a teto skin deck

Stay tuned for that

[hard plank]

i spent like a week working on this shit

[fair thistle]

did you know that that teto legendary plays teto music when you teto pick it up

[gilded vortex]

I also made Flush [Suit] Jokers for the other suits

[brisk seal]

Abysmal when

[gilded vortex]

They need names still

[hard plank]

absurd 😭

[fair thistle]

what if there was teto space and there was a little teto astro on the teto moon

[gilded vortex]

Each creates a different Tarot when you play a Flush with a card of that Suit

[hard plank]

maniacal

[gray cove]

Tetoverse

[fair thistle]

if I made a flush suit joker I would make it create the other light or dark suit

Spade flush? Here's the Moon, have a good day

[gilded vortex]

Spades and Chariot, Hearts and Justice, Clubs and Magician, Diamonds and Devil

[hard plank]

can go up to 1000 in debt

[round ore]

it's great that you give players that option! it's much appreciated!

[brisk seal]

antimoderate when

[gilded vortex]

I don’t like changing Joker effects with a balance knob

[brisk seal]

It's sometimes justified i'd say

[gilded vortex]

Also the hardest difficulty setting should be called Baby Mode

[gilded vortex]

Just pick a side

[hard plank]

Absolute Ass

[gilded vortex]

And make a mod for that side

[brisk seal]

i don't do gamesets

and don't plan on doing them

[gilded vortex]

What’s a gameset

[brisk seal]

balance setting

[gilded vortex]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

[brisk seal]

yeah i personally would never do one

[hard plank]

i get that

[brisk seal]

but i don't see an issue with them and sometimes changing a joker effect is necessary

as long as the abilities are similar

[hard plank]

oh lmao

[gilded vortex]

I think you should commit to a difficulty mode

Especially if you need to change Joker effects

Make another mod if you need to

[hard plank]

i got 1 complaint about the absurd being just a souped up numbers version

[brisk seal]

why limit people's options

[gilded vortex]

It’s not limiting

Just make another mod

[brisk seal]

but why?

[hard plank]

so i overhauled some effects

[gilded vortex]

That’s as many options

[hard plank]

but still close

[gilded vortex]

Difficulty settings shouldn’t change effects

[brisk seal]

but why not?

sometimes an ability simply doesn't work well in a vanilla-esque setting

[gilded vortex]

Then make a mod that isn’t vanilla-esque

And put it there

No need to have it in the same mod

[brisk seal]

i can see this argument is not goign to go anywhere

*going

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know why you’re so fixated in having a single mod

[hard plank]

why would i make it a separate mod smh

[gilded vortex]

Make mods themed

Around e.g. balance settings

[hard plank]

i ain't doing it from scratch

i only have so much time

[gilded vortex]

What do you mean from scratch

It not like your original code disappears

By starting a second mod

[hard plank]

yeah but I'm not making another mod just to soup up numbers

that shit takes time

[gilded vortex]

The difficulty setting shouldn’t soup up numbers anyways

[hard plank]

it's not difficult settings....

[brisk seal]

it's a balance setting

[gilded vortex]

Balance setting

Just make another mod at that point

And tweak the numbers there

If it’s just numbers tweak, the code is mostly the same

[hard plank]

you missed my whole point

[brisk seal]

i feel you just defferent perspectives on what a Balatro Mod should be and neither of you will convince the other ever

[hard plank]

my ass is NOT maintaining two codebases at the same time

[brisk seal]

it would be a good idea to simply stop the banter

[hard plank]

true

[harsh glacier]

whats a codebase

[hard plank]

the code

[gilded vortex]

I’m not trying to convince anyone

I’m explaining my opinion on the matter

[gilded vortex]

Go to sleep haya

[harsh glacier]

bih i need to register my ss today

i NEED to be early

otherwise im gonna be waiting in the line for more than 3 hours

[gilded vortex]

Your what

[harsh glacier]

social security

[gilded vortex]

Good luck 👍

[gilded vortex]

Why does everyone think someone disagreeing with them is trying to change their mind

[brisk seal]

that's typically what people do

and also you gace your opinion multiple times when it was responded too rather than immediately stating you weren't tryingt o convince anyone

[ivory sinew]

Balatro should be a game where you punch tree

[brisk seal]

*gave

[harsh glacier]

mathguy do you do math

[ivory sinew]

So I think Yahimod is the best mod tbh (they have punch tree)

[brisk seal]

yeah

although i haven't made a mth mod

*math

yet

[teal sky]

👀

[whole stone]

man how the hell do i mod this game 🙏

[brisk seal]

ask in #💻・modding-dev

[teal sky]

I have been summoned because math has been mentioned

[harsh glacier]

meth

blue crystal

[normal hollow]

making a mod or playing? either way check pinned

[brisk seal]

not planning on making a mod for that

[gilded vortex]

You asked for my opinion and I explained it

[harsh glacier]

damn

[whole stone]

playing

[gilded vortex]

Check the pinned messages

[ivory sinew]

You don't. Pay me

[harsh glacier]

wtf!

[ivory sinew]

I do $10 a function

[harsh glacier]

im adding jokers

[gilded vortex]

Math? In thunk’s math game?

[ivory sinew]

No you're not. You're adding carbon dioxide

[gilded vortex]

What math do y’all study

[brisk seal]

i do $1 a character

[teal sky]

No way theres residue classes

[brisk seal]

Advanced 7

[ivory sinew]

I'm stuck on what 2+1 equals?

[brisk seal]

giving Mathguy all your mortal possesions

[gilded vortex]

What does that mean

[gilded vortex]

Not the complex analysis

[teal sky]

Complex manifolds and galois theory

[harsh glacier]

NERRRRD

[fallow bramble]

Another silly run

[brisk seal]

delving into the mathematical, arithmetic, and Set Theroy bases of the number 7

[teal sky]

[teal sky]

:3

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm I had a friend studying algebra in Canada

[teal sky]

:3

[gilded vortex]

Algebra is to math what math is to the average person IMO

[brisk seal]

Haven't heard of galois theory before, the wikipedia page makes it sound interesting

[teal sky]

To beat this blind you must prove or disprove that open balls and open polydiscs on ℂⁿ are biholomorphically equivalent in general

:3

[ivory sinew]

I wanted to study calculus but my CS program didn't have that 😦

[hard plank]

you can have mine

[brisk seal]

DebugPlus:

[exotic belfry]

You and your math tomfoolery

[fallow bramble]

I didn't want to study calculus but my CS program had it

[exotic belfry]

I just improved my Nuclear deck patches so good oml

[brisk seal]

I have too many mods

[hard plank]

same

[teal sky]

I more try to stick to field theory than galois theory but they're intrinsically connected

[whole nova]

gonna take pre calc next year and i'm terrified

[jaunty galleon]

can you tell this was a 7 of diamonds at all lol

[teal sky]

Meowwww :3

[fair thistle]

These Blinds are Pissing me off

[fallow bramble]

It's so silly seeing Corobo go "teehee meow :3" and then use complex mathematical terms

[brisk seal]

so basically you do the math in the 2d plane and then limits

[teal sky]

Pre calc is fun I've heard
Tho we don't have it in Canada so idk about all the details

[exotic belfry]

I am the original

Playing Card

[whole nova]

... was i not already doing math in the 2d plane

[fair thistle]

this u?

[exotic belfry]

yeah

My name is Astra after all

[fair thistle]

that's me but only teehee meow

[brisk seal]

well now you do more math in the 2d plane

you're gonna understand the 2d plane so hard

[exotic belfry]

She's like this in DMs too

[prime dock]

some more progress

[hard plank]

Nijika and Diamonds is pretty fitting tho for high contrast cards

[whole nova]

pre calc this year, then since i'll be taking college classes, i'll speed through like 4 quarters of actual calculus iirc

[hard plank]

also i only use high contrast cards i can't go back to non high contrast

[exotic belfry]

REAL

[fallow bramble]

lol

[whole nova]

honestly i've only ever had low contrast

[prime dock]

true

[hard plank]

i want high contrast balatro playing cards

[exotic belfry]

high contrast balala irl

[hard plank]

however thunk said unlikely

[prime dock]

i wish the physical balatro deck had a high contrast option

beat me to it

[brisk seal]

so for calc you are gonna understand infinitesimal concepts so hard, oh yeah also you are gonna triginomety so hard, and also intergal SO hard.

[hard plank]

already asked him about it

[whole nova]

this could all be fixed if clubs weren't just a less vibrant black than spades

[brisk seal]

you also might die

[fallow bramble]

Don't break them yet

[whole nova]

sounds great...

but yeah this year is pre calc at my high school, then it'll be college level math for like 2 years at a college to clear up some requirements

[teal sky]

Meow nya nya mrrp meow meoww :3 if G is a finite abelian group of prime-power order and G = H_1 × H_2 × ... × H_m and G = K_1 × K_2 × ... ~ K_n, where the H's and K's are non-trivial cyclic subgroups of decreasing cardinality then m = n and |H_i| = |K_i| for all i

Meowww :3

[hard plank]

you will teach me calculus

[dense egret]

triginomety its sin and cos right?

[whole nova]

soh cah toa

[teal sky]

I do tutor calculus :3

[brisk seal]

you wish

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[fallow bramble]

😰

[brisk seal]

way more

[teal sky]

:3

[brisk seal]

sin, cos, tan, sec, csc, cot, arctan, arccos, ...

[hard plank]

i seriously don't understand anything about calculus other than basic stuff like how to do simple derivatives

[whole nova]

supposedly we started trigonometry in algebra 2 this year, but at a very basic level, idk my teacher didn't explain it super well lmao

[dense egret]

yea i know, i call that trigonometría I just wanted to know if that was it xd

[dense egret]

ty

[brisk seal]

tbh i need to review integrals

[gilded vortex]

Polydisks?

[whole nova]

unit circles and radians and arc lengths and also sin cos and tan have returned

[dense egret]

i have them the next year, im scared

[gilded vortex]

I thought Galois was famous

[brisk seal]

I live under a rock

[teal sky]

I love -i/2 (e^(ix) - e^(-ix)), ½ (e^(ix) + e^(-ix)), and -i (e^(ix) - e^(-ix))/(e^(ix) + e^(-ix))

[fallow bramble]

I love 1+2

[gilded vortex]

I had a good introductory calculus book but it’s in Portuguese

It’s free tho

[brisk seal]

that's just tedious, not advanced

oh wait

[dense egret]

xd

[brisk seal]

i understand now

[teal sky]

A polydisc is a cartesian product of comed discs

[whole nova]

what the fuck

[gilded vortex]

Oh what discs

Also isn’t that just a torus

[brisk seal]

duocylinder is so cool

[teal sky]

Usually the unit disc in ℂ

[fallow bramble]

Math is cool but far away from me

[gilded vortex]

Algebra is cool but far away from me

[teal sky]

It's wat u said :3

Same thing

[hard plank]

what the fuck

[gilded vortex]

You made a typo

[brisk seal]

for context e^ix = cos(x) + isin(x)

[hard plank]

i don't understand a single expression

[brisk seal]

this it is possible to define the trigonometric functions with various modifications of e^ix

[fallow bramble]

I hate imaginary numbers like x wasn't imaginary enough

[teal sky]

Disc and disk are different spellings

[gilded vortex]

“Comed”

[brisk seal]

Quaternions:

[dense egret]

i would like to know what are you saying, but i start learning that the past week 😭

[teal sky]

My keyboard didnt autocorrect to ℂ

[fallow bramble]

Comet into your house

[brisk seal]

so uh... Balatro Modding am I right?

[gilded vortex]

Do you want a book on Portuguese as reference

It’s pretty good

[fallow bramble]

Guys what if there was a math guy and he did various balatro mods like trading cards or sum, crazy

[gilded vortex]

Maybe a bit too advanced if you’re like

An engineer

[hard plank]

creative process

[dense egret]

nah, Some words in mathematics are key to understanding the topics, I don't want to learn poorly just because of my Portuguese.

[teal sky]

A disc is the set of all points x and y such that (x-a)² + (y-b)² ≤ r²
(a,b) is the center of the disc and r is the radius

[fierce fern]

Is there any mod that allows me to hide tarot cards and not use them in my games?

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm maybe you could do the exercises

[dense egret]

so, you said you love pizza?

[hard plank]

a circle function i guess

[teal sky]

I am in fact currently eating pizza :3

[dense egret]

thats the easy part, but understand them?????

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if I would say it’s the closed or open disc necessarily

[brisk seal]

thinking if i should work on my Skill tree mod or my Bonus Blind consumable mod

[gilded vortex]

Usually I see that being specified anyways

[hard plank]

bonus blinds

[dense egret]

oh, i read that not too wrong then :D

[teal sky]

Usually in my readings the closed disc is the default
Especially when you're doing contour continuation for meromorphic functions

[hard plank]

ok so

😭

[dense egret]

i hate algebra

[brisk seal]

:(

[fallow bramble]

I miss balatro modding

[brisk seal]

take it back

[dense egret]

idk what i do to algebra to be that complicated

[plush hound]

i think

[gilded vortex]

I do think if you condition to a subfield, people will tend to stick to a specific nomenclature

[plush hound]

i missed my wife

gpod morning

[dense egret]

im even worst in geometry

[fallow bramble]

lies

[limber cairn]

alright, which one of these do yall think fits best for the WORLDS (2014) Joker?

1️⃣ - Hear The Bells
2️⃣ - Sea Of Voices
3️⃣ - Goodbye To A World

[gilded vortex]

But they’re not in your subfield

[brisk seal]

idc take it back

[plush hound]

:(fuck you

[dense egret]

nuh uh

[gilded vortex]

Also I do think that usually balls are open and maybe discs are closed

[teal sky]

I mean thats just how it goes
If you talk to a number theorist then 0⁰ = 1

[gilded vortex]

But also usually there are qualifiers

[gilded vortex]

0 times infinity is 0 and negative infinity plus infinity is infinity

[dense egret]

no and yes

[full edge]

Oh wait diScs nevermind

[fallow bramble]

Isn't negative infinity + infinity = 0?

[stable shore]

down to 83 jokers and it finally stopped giving me the win first hand

[teal sky]

Meowww

[gilded vortex]

Usually it’s undefined

[teal sky]

It's typically undefined or indeterminate depending on what you're doing

[dense egret]

There is a simpler way to explain things raised to 0, n⁰