⚙・modding-general

[wraith seal]

just sayin

[prime dock]

does anyone know a mod that makes reseting easier

like r key to reset

[stable shore]

don’t know if this helps

[full edge]

Ctrl c ctrl v it and you can just paste it here!

[stable shore]

oh ok

[wind token]

Everything all at once: acts as every seal, act as all types of enhancements (will not shatter), acts as all editions

:3c

[wraith seal]

is this better now

[full edge]

But I suspect you need to update Talisman?

[full edge]

Oooh, love that art. Is that a reference to anything?

[stable shore]

oh wait it says i’m missing tailsman

[teal sky]

What happens if you use invisible Joker

[stable shore]

what’s tailsman

[wind token]

The art is my oc, but I also decided to add Ralsei on there

[full edge]

Talisman is a required dependency!

[wraith seal]

this is not a joker 😭

[wind token]

I plan to add more references to it

[full edge]

And a separate mod

[stable shore]

welp

[full edge]

It allows scores to go beyond vanilla naninf

[teal sky]

What happens if you use perkeo

[stable shore]

oh that makes sense

[teal sky]

Wha

[velvet wave]

does anybody know where i can download entropy

[full edge]

Google should bring you the GitHub! I can post the link in a second if you're unsure, though

[full edge]

#1356061616063385763

[fair thistle]

jimboss is copyable

[stable shore]

ok now the games crashed again

[wraith seal]

do what it says

[stable shore]

i put in tailsman

[full edge]

check the foldername and follow the instructions

[prime dock]

name the talisman folder talisman

nothing else

[wraith seal]

Talisman*

the capitalization is important

[fair thistle]

this is absolutely nothing

i have over 25 thousand dollars in this run

and space cadet

49 hands means nothing to me but blue discards

[stable shore]

ok when i click on the folder where do i go

[full edge]

the folder is what you should rename

[stable shore]

cause i already went through read me

to just Tailsman?

[stable shore]

ohhhh

[wind token]

So in total: +50 chips, +50 chips, + 30 chips, +4 mult, +10 mult, 1.5 xmult, 1.5 xmult, 2x mult, 1/5 for +20 mult, 1/2 for 20 dollars, 3 dollars, another 3 dollars, triggers twice, gives planet card of played hand, gives a random tarot card, +1 joker slot

[wraith seal]

+1 joker slot too

[wind token]

Oh yes, that too, thank you

[wraith seal]

glass card is X2 mult, im pretty sure

[wind token]

Oh right lol

[wraith seal]

did you account for stone cards' +50 chips too 🤔

[wind token]

Oh shit

I forgot a lot

[wraith seal]

its fine lol

[lament kernel]

Hi there! Sorry to bother you all, but I'm getting this actually flooding my screen whenever I click play. I hid my console for now but is this something I should worry about?

[wraith seal]

what the hell is that

[wind token]

Oh I know what causes that

[lament kernel]

So I am playing with Demserene's modpack

[full edge]

you can press / to turn that off. I suspect one of your mods has just set something up improperly

[wind token]

If a mod adds blinds and doesn’t account for tailsman, that shows up

[wraith seal]

of course its talisman 🥀

[lament kernel]

Yeah I managed to figure it out, thank you 🥺

[wind token]

I call it tailsman, because it’s funnier

Plus I think of tails from sonic

[livid meadow]

• weird error
• look inside
• talisman

[full edge]

Dimserene's isn't being maintained anymore, so you can run into some issues, generally!

[lament kernel]

das okay

as long as it functions at a basic level im fine with it

if push comes to shove ill use a different pack

[wind token]

It might fuck up and blow up

[wraith seal]

>crash
>confused
>check cause
> talisman

[wind token]

We gotta separate tailsman from the rest of the meme for safety reasons

[wraith seal]

it will crash the meme if its too close

[wind token]

The reason why I know this is because I had tailsman and I was checking the chips required/ the chips the used has

I was using it for a gradient

[livid meadow]

I had a similar issue so I added talisman compatibility then proceeded to uninstall talisman

[full edge]

talisman adds gradient functionality?

[wind token]

Oh, no, I meant I was checking chips for a gradient

Sorry for the confusion

[stable shore]

ok so cryptid is enabled but two questions:

1. can i change the m tag from moderate to madness
   2.how do i enable scoring animations again

[wind token]

I was changing the color background

[latent crescent]

If talisman cause so much issues, then time to make "untalisman"?

[wind token]

Evil tailsman

[livid meadow]

And all it does is undo any changes made by talisman

[wind token]

It allows for negative scoring

And that’s it

Longer scoring animations

[latent crescent]

All it needs is just return back all calculations to numbers

to_big = to_number or function(x) return x end

[wind token]

Return every number as negative

[wind token]

Wait, is this all I need to fix my tailsman incompatibility

[latent crescent]

No, this will basically break talisman

[wind token]

Oh

So, the opposite

[latent crescent]

It will like "remove it"

[wind token]

It “deals” with it, I get what you mean…

[latent crescent]

So, this will cap you again to naneinf, but game will become more stable

And all mods depends on talisman will work

[full edge]

best way to handle talisman compat is to do a little prayer each day and wish that people would try mods without also running Cryptid at the same time

[latent crescent]

In rare cases - do some more manipulations, because big number have own methods to deal with

[wind token]

A mod pop up that says “please! Please! Remove tailsman, pleassse!

[fair thistle]

guhhh my brain hurtie

[wind token]

Literally me whenever I have to code

What’s causing the headache?

Assuming it’s code relates

[fair thistle]

I still love this so much

[wind token]

:3

[fair thistle]

he's literally so me

definitely a rare card. levels up your discarded hands with a 1/2 chance

maybe 1/4

but definitely a cute lil space card

[wind token]

I would look at both space man and burnt card to see how they do what they do

[fair thistle]

space man is about planets

so space robot also loosely related to planets

maybe instead it's like

[wind token]

I thought you meant the joker code

[fair thistle]

uyhh

[prime dock]

does anyone know how to achieve this affect using asesprite

[wind token]

You mean how it’s flipped?

[prime dock]

no like the foil affect

[wind token]

Oh, then I’ve got no idea, sorry

[full edge]

as in the background? Or do you mean the shine-shading?

[exotic belfry]

Another self insert card to feed the masses

[fair thistle]

outsert technically

someone else drew it

[latent crescent]

Wait wait wait... ChatGPT suggests smth crazy about Talisman, I should ckeck it right now

[wind token]

I wonder who did that /j

[fair thistle]

this is the one I drew

[prime dock]

the backround

[plush hound]

what did they say

[full edge]

ah yeah, that's just gonna be drawing. Suspect it might not be done in aseprite, but you could use the brush customization menu and mess around there

[latent crescent]

Let me test first

[normal hollow]

Hi! I see that you're having problems with the Balatro mod Talisman. Have you tried uninstalling it?

Let me know if you need the steps to uninstall Talisman!

[plush hound]

this felt like a prophecy

[plush hound]

if Talisman

[wind token]

I chuckled at this message, idk why

[plush hound]

talisman aint that bad guys come on

[wind token]

It took my family!

[stark shale]

Yuri

[normal hollow]

Jockey

[stark shale]

oh come on

uninstalling joyousspring

[normal hollow]

understandable

[plush hound]

Talisman killed my run

Talisman promised me to be a big shot by having bignum in every value, turns out they're just siphoning the compatibility of my mods>:(

[vivid flame]

Talisman is basically
EVERY number can be a table

[stark shale]

[vivid flame]

(Unless ur on luajit2 where I heard ppl had no such issue)

[normal hollow]

is the modding community on the cryptid discord different

[full edge]

yeah

they're not aware of the talisman or cryptid discourse that happens here at all, haha

[plush hound]

having luajit2 is a must

[plush hound]

they don't care, i think

[normal hollow]

that's crazy
do they have a N equivalent

[vivid flame]

Talisman and cryptic

[plush hound]

i think Lexi or Nova

[latent crescent]

So: what if... number is a table?

[vivid flame]

Yo btw check out my self insert joker which wins first 12 antes

[full edge]

I guess there's the people playing mods without making them, I can get them not caring, but when I first started chatting in the dev channels there, they weren't non-caring, they just didn't know that it was an issue people had

[vivid flame]

Yes.

(Only in coding)

[stark shale]

what if we add baguette

[plush hound]

how am i not bringing anything to the table when I'm myself the fucking table

[latent crescent]

Basically, ai suggests check out debug.setmetatable for numbers

[full edge]

me omw to bignum the tables at your wedding reception, ruining your seating charts

[stark shale]

anyway

[vivid flame]

(Only if above 1.8e308)

[stark shale]

sleeptime

[gilded vortex]

Wh

[vivid flame]

They use meta tables already

Talisman uses them

[plush hound]

they're too focused on their own projects and probably think that they should ask in the main discord instead

[normal hollow]

crashing the wedding because I tried to check how many people sat at each table

[full edge]

from my understanding, the issue with talisman is entirely due to the version of lua used by balatro/love2d not letting you overwrite comparators

[vivid flame]

That's how u can bignum + normal num

[west hill]

No they don’t

[plush hound]

trying to compare

[vivid flame]

But not bignum > normal num

[gilded vortex]

Ñ

[plush hound]

N

M

holy shit it makes sense now

[vivid flame]

u ũ ɯ ʍ

[gilded vortex]

Do they have a Nxkoo equivalent

[full edge]

haha, well that's the reason I've decided to be the compatibility I wanna see in the world. Though Ruby's taken up the habit of fixing anything about Cryptid I make note off just a few hours after I've mentioned it, haha

[normal hollow]

i hope not

[plush hound]

like in what sense

[plush hound]

first of all

fuck you

[vivid flame]

n ñ m w

[plush hound]

>:(

[jaunty galleon]

hello chat

[gilded vortex]

Hello

[plush hound]

haaaaaaiiiiiii

[normal hollow]

im just saying youre unique

[plush hound]

calling me a limited edition is crazy

🥀

[tropic egret]

cryptid has got better fixes-wise

[full edge]

Eremel, how much does SMODS change about the way the sell/buy buttons are drawn for cards?

[gilded vortex]

I can’t answer this question without being apprehended

[jaunty galleon]

4 to go

[full edge]

I think I've gotten through to them on better versioning, which is nice

[plush hound]

apprehended? like getting arrested?

[normal hollow]

are you trying to make a buttons api

[tropic egret]

cryptid is one big melting pot imo its not bad it's just not for me

[gilded vortex]

Either arrested or contained

[full edge]

well, first just trying to set it up as working for Kino purposes, haha

[gilded vortex]

By the way, question for modders

[plush hound]

tobig (@gilded vortex)

[gilded vortex]

Do you think having a Rarity order would be useful?

[tropic egret]

no

[plush hound]

am i modder enough

[jaunty galleon]

yeah it advertises itself as unbalanced so it's stupid for me to be like "well i don't like it becasue it's not balanced" but that is ultimately the reason

[gilded vortex]

Are you making me fat or are you making me

[full edge]

I think I've spent more hours in the code than in the mod at this point, haha. I mainly think it's probably good for the community as a whole for Cryptid to be stable, at least

[plush hound]

i need you to combust into flames

[normal hollow]

i just got a github issue for joyous to add buttons instead of keybinds so that would be useful

[gilded vortex]

So you need me to be hot

[plush hound]

vaporzied

vapirzied

vapirzied

kill me

[tropic egret]

vaporised

[plush hound]

thank you

[normal hollow]

vampirized

[gilded vortex]

vaped

[plush hound]

im not sucking victin's off

he got no blood, 98% air

just

piof

poof

[normal hollow]

victin is a gold card tho

[tropic egret]

everyone is mostly air

[storm forum]

We all are space dust.

[plush hound]

how is that

[full edge]

the main issue I'm running into is that the vanilla code creates buttons in multiple different ways, which isn't amazing to parse, haha. I also think there's changes to how they work coming from SMODS, but I haven't figured those out yet, haha

[gilded vortex]

Shiny new space dust

[plush hound]

even crazier space dust with all of this knowledge in modding

[gilded vortex]

I forget the line

Oh yeah

Not shiny

[tropic egret]

you're made of mostly nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen

[gilded vortex]

Crazy

[plush hound]

BOOOOOO

[livid meadow]

This is what I reopen discord to

[normal hollow]

idk i just remake all of them when highlighting

[plush hound]

welcome back

[gilded vortex]

Don’t reopen discord again then

[tropic egret]

not me though i'm 62% Boron Filament

[plush hound]

baron filament?

[gilded vortex]

Otherwise who knows what Nxkoo will do to me then

[livid meadow]

It's good to be back 🔥

[livid meadow]

Bruh

[plush hound]

pulverize you

anyways, play Tangents

[livid meadow]

If you squint and are blind it's clearly baron foil mime

[full edge]

I want to be able to add toggles to cards so I can just turn certain ones off, which has worked for some, but the buy and use one I can't find an in for. The function that I expected to be its origin doesn't seem to be involved at all

[tropic egret]

i already played tangents

[gilded vortex]

I think it would be nice to know which rarities are better than others

[tropic egret]

my graphing calculator entertained me a lot

[gilded vortex]

To enable crossmod

[tropic egret]

i know how tangents look like

[gilded vortex]

Otherwise you can’t use modded Rarities

[tropic egret]

how do you think this would work

[gilded vortex]

A Rarity could have a next function

And/or an ordering number

The latter is more general but less consistent between mods

[plush hound]

I didn't even release it

[gilded vortex]

The former is more limited but makes more sense I think

[tropic egret]

i have 1, 2, 3, 4
mod two adds slightly better 5 after 4
mod three adds overpowered 5 after four, pushing the old 5 to 6
womp womp

[gilded vortex]

It could have an utility to build the tree of Rarities

[tropic egret]

oh tree

[gilded vortex]

Why are you integer

[tropic egret]

hm

[gilded vortex]

These aren’t dictionary entries

[tropic egret]

okay trees are interesting

[gilded vortex]

Just order values for the second idea

[tranquil vessel]

cryptid and stable don't really go together

[tropic egret]

how would you be able to tell though if say two rarities are on the same level of the tree

[gilded vortex]

Trees don’t have levels

At best you can tell two nodes are the same distance from the root

[full edge]

no, but a bit more stable might be nice. So we don't get people here needing help with Cryptid's arcane versioning and release methods, haha

[tropic egret]

that is the same as what i meant

[gilded vortex]

☝️

[full edge]

or it just messing with features when it touches another mod

[gilded vortex]

There are a lot of graph algorithms you could use

[tropic egret]

cryptids blinds are actually cool and decently coded iirc

[plush hound]

this channel without cryptid crash logs would turn into a barren wasteland in a minute

[full edge]

A lot of the code's pretty interesting, and there's plenty of good code in there

[gilded vortex]

I joined the Cryptid server briefly yesterday to VC people then left

[plush hound]

bookoo

BOOOOO

im still in pwx and cryptid server

[full edge]

I think the state of cryptid's just kinda inevitable when it's project like that. It's not gonna be modular or set up generically if no one takes the effort to do it

[tropic egret]

incorrect 40% of the crash logs i see here is talisman table with number, not directly because of cryptid

[plush hound]

majority rules, kid

[full edge]

hmmmpff, it seems card_focus_ui isn't called when I think it's called at all

[tropic egret]

talisman only breaks because of luajit anyway

it's not completely their fault

what bugs me is misprint deck :ap

[normal hollow]

i have never tested misprinted joyousspring

[full edge]

Banish 0.3 Ghoti monsters

[normal hollow]

i did try to make most of them not hardcoded

i gave up now tho

[tropic egret]

then again if you aren't coding in your config normally

[tropic egret]

you're dunkass

ortalab #5

[exotic belfry]

It's that time again for me to shill
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1381709540332146749

[prime dock]

theyre reverse tarots from isaac not the ortalab ones

[normal hollow]

i love reversed tarots

[gilded vortex]

You mean a naturalist utopia

I couldn’t find the word I wanted

[prime dock]

heres the fool

[gilded vortex]

For an idealized agrarian naturalist society

[exotic belfry]

fascinating

[full edge]

We'd have so much room to talk about niche wording issues

[gilded vortex]

Skill issue

[tropic egret]

dude i literally have a Spectral Tarots mod that literally has Tarots?

[gilded vortex]

It is their fault because they exist

[full edge]

I can't find what generates this button. Might give up for now, oof

[gilded vortex]

If they didn’t exist there wouldn’t be any issues

[tropic egret]

im gonna rename it now

[west hill]

I don’t think it changes them at all

[normal hollow]

Barots?

[gilded vortex]

Have you seen any of the Homestuck mods

[tropic egret]

not bountiful

different mod

i got bored one day and made tarot-coloured spectrals

[full edge]

😭 Great, haha. At least that's good to know but it takes away my current hopeful explanation for why I can't seem to access it at all

[normal hollow]

Roffarots

[gilded vortex]

Bofarots

[exotic belfry]

Rofflanets

[tropic egret]

roffle mod will never add consumables because we don't need any more

[prime dock]

i saw balatrostuck and i know factwixard is working on one

[tropic egret]

we do want to add vouchers though

[west hill]

The buttons are pretty funky from what I remember, some sort of implementation in smods could be useful

[prime dock]

i feel like mods use legendary too muhc

[paper laurel]

I LOVE YAHI MOD

[prime dock]

now i use the soul and i get wario (3 dollars whena joker is triggered)

[gilded vortex]

Ortalab is also Homestuck-ish

[jaunty galleon]

i have 0 atm and 1 conceptualised lol

[prime dock]

explain

[jaunty galleon]

2 left yo

[gilded vortex]

Gappie made their Zodiacs Homestuck-colored

[prime dock]

this is the only legendary

[tropic egret]

why are people thumbs downing the consumables, roffle literally has said he likes new jokers over new consumables lol

[gilded vortex]

Make the game more inconsistent

Also who’s Roffle

[full edge]

yeah, I'm really struggling to parse them. They don't get set up from a central function, which surprised me. There's multiple functions that trigger depending on placement. I'm setting stuff up for Kino now, and it's a bigger fight than I was expecting, haha

[tropic egret]

we simply Design Accordingly

[normal hollow]

i agree actually

[full edge]

that's why he needs Glue for Modpacks

[jaunty galleon]

good plug

[tropic egret]

he does really need GFM

[gilded vortex]

(I know who Roffle is but Idk their opinion about the Roffle mod; why would I)

[full edge]

I feel like if you're playing with more than 1 added consumable, you need a bigger shop to account for it tbh

I do like new consumables, but on the other hand, a lot of them fall into the 'what if tarots but it's a new set', design-wise

[gilded vortex]

Spectrals

[normal hollow]

that's why i decided to not add spell/traps to my mod as consumables

[west hill]

I just built a new play mode 🙃

[gilded vortex]

What does that mean

[tropic egret]

if i ever actually get a consumable idea that isn't just tarots 2 or spectrals 2 that make sense as consumables, they will be named after vitamins B1–B12 for a set of 8

[full edge]

I like Confections because the more temporary or interactive consumable space is still open, from vanilla, but I don't think I could come up with many more that justify themselves not being tarots, haha

[exotic belfry]

eremel doing eremel things
fork found in cabinet

[jaunty galleon]

i might add a complete shattered set of spectrals/tarots that you can only get through shatter consumables but idk that sounds like a lot of drawing

[gilded vortex]

Alchemicals but good

[jaunty galleon]

i like maximus' horoscopes in concept

[exotic belfry]

Thank you

[gilded vortex]

I want to add Tarot 2

They’re like Tarots but they’re not named Tarot

[west hill]

The intended ortalab play experience is in ortalab only mode

[gilded vortex]

What does that mean

[jaunty galleon]

but balance your consumables yo!! gemini is busted

[tropic egret]

ortalab is a strong independent addition to the game that don't need no crossmod

[full edge]

gonna add Kino crossmod for this that's compatible with the Morefluff crossmod and the planned Entropy crossmod so that I've got inversed shattered 45* degree rotated tarots

[exotic belfry]

Is it really that good? Dayum

[hard plank]

ortalab crossmod

[gilded vortex]

Adding Ortalab compat that overrides Ortalab-only mode

[exotic belfry]

That's two people saying Gemini good within the same minute LOL

[jaunty galleon]

it's 3 levels on whatever hands you play that's crazy

[full edge]

that's why it's gemini, I guess

[exotic belfry]

I'll take note of it

[gilded vortex]

Hai koyori

[tropic egret]

can i crossmod Glue for Modpacks

Blue for Modpacks, makes the game have a blue border. untogglable. have fun

[jaunty galleon]

maybe if it required more unique hands (4-7) and the reward was bumped down to 2 levels each it would be more balanced

[gilded vortex]

Scott the Woz

[tropic egret]

Scott the Woz

[jaunty galleon]

borderline forever

[gilded vortex]

absolute kino

[fair thistle]

what do you think he'll play

[exotic belfry]

We'll figure something out dw

[fair thistle]

three of a kind?

[full edge]

Reading the code, I don't think I know why regular tarots don't get a 'buy and use' button. I wonder how that works, because there doesn't seem to be any checks for it

[fair thistle]

i like how the jolly joker looks so tiny in this photo

[jaunty galleon]

lol (this is from powerful)

[tropic egret]

kiddos don't even get war flashbacks from off suit 2 7s anymore

[silent oracle]

Hi, is the right chat to ask for help with errors caused by mods on startup?

[tropic egret]

YEAHHHHHHH

yes

[full edge]

yes!

[fair thistle]

i mean i literally havent heard of it

so i quite literally cant get flashbacks

[tropic egret]

WHAT

in JOKER POKER BALALA??

[jaunty galleon]

person playing poker game doesn't know poker...

[tropic egret]

sobbing

[exotic belfry]

LOL

[gilded vortex]

I too don’t know what it is

[tropic egret]

i

[exotic belfry]

Bro

[tropic egret]

crying

[exotic belfry]

Fake poker fans in the poker game discord server smh

[hard plank]

what the fuck

[fair thistle]

all i do is draw robot boy, eat card, cause mult, and find out after fucking around

[jaunty galleon]

offsuit 2/7 is the worst hand you can be dealt (in texas holdem anyways)

[gilded vortex]

Well I’m not a poker fan

[tropic egret]

offsuit 2 7 is famously the worst starting poker hand

[gilded vortex]

I can’t be a fake poker fan if I’m not a poker fan

[fair thistle]

oh, really?

damn

[jaunty galleon]

yeah

[exotic belfry]

Instant fold any time I see it lmfao

[gilded vortex]

Like the cartoon Robot Boy?

[fair thistle]

no, astrobot

shuddup >:(

[gilded vortex]

Balatro is more like Solitaire

[fair thistle]

[gilded vortex]

[gilded vortex]

Astrobot?

[tropic egret]

at my casual games if you win with offsuit 2 7 everyone else owes you 10 bucks

[fair thistle]

guys what mod should i download off the modloader rn

[exotic belfry]

That's a kickass house rule

[fair thistle]

mod manager*

[hard plank]

????

[gilded vortex]

Gambling 👎

[full edge]

Maximus

[jaunty galleon]

i was actually about to say "has that ever procced" i need to stop playing roguelikes good lord

[fair thistle]

done

[hard plank]

:(

[exotic belfry]

[silent oracle]

Hi my game is crashing when I try to load with Fantoms Preview or Cartomancer, both throw similar or same error attempt to index global 'FN' (a nil value). If anyone has idea what causes this I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks

Oops! The game crashed:
[SMODS FantomsPreview "CorePreview.lua"]:15: attempt to index global 'FN' (a nil value)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0530b-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows
Steamodded Mods:
    1: Set FPS by tanakrit-d [ID: SetFPS]
    2: JokerDisplay by nh6574 [ID: JokerDisplay, Priority: -100000, Version: 1.8.4.2]
    3: Fantoms Preview by Fantom, Divvy [ID: FantomsPreview, Version: 2.3.0]
    4: Handy by SleepyG11 [ID: Handy, Version: 1.4.2b, Uses Lovely]
    5: Cartomancer by stupxd aka stupid [ID: cartomancer, Priority: 69, Version: 4.15]
Lovely Mods:

[gilded vortex]

You made aikoyori sad with your gambling

[fair thistle]

the most evil thing to do - play a vanilla inspired mod with cryptid enabled

[tropic egret]

yeah i bet a lot once and everyone assumed i had offsuit 2 7, and then Oops Full House

[exotic belfry]

LMFAO

[gilded vortex]

Gambling 🥀

[full edge]

you can copy paste crash logs directly from the game!

[tropic egret]

it's a casual game so no actual money lost except when offsuit 2 7s happen

[stable shore]

holy shit

[exotic belfry]

My friends are lame bro they don't put money on the line for our Poker Nights

[gilded vortex]

Still gambling

[gilded vortex]

Based friends

[mint flame]

fun fact: the vanilla-inspired mods feel left out and inferior when you do this

[exotic belfry]

Can confirm

[tropic egret]

calling poker with no money gambling is like calling yahtzee gambling

[exotic belfry]

Signed: A Vanilla-Inspired mod dev

[gilded vortex]

I can prove it’s incorrect

[gilded vortex]

But there is money

[hard plank]

please

[gilded vortex]

Signed a vanilla-inspired mod dev

[silent oracle]

sure!

[full edge]

One day people will play mods without Cryptid 🥲

[gilded vortex]

What

[tropic egret]

offsuit 2 7s are not common dog

[prime dock]

"vanilla inspired" pretty much means good balancing in this day and age

[gilded vortex]

Doesn’t need to be common. Gambling is gambling

That’s the point of gambling

[normal hollow]

well, it means they try to do good balancing

[fair thistle]

guys i think maximus wants me to download a different version of steammodded

[jaunty galleon]

i thuoght poker night was just an excuse to get drunk wdym you're supposed to play poker

[tropic egret]

what are you on about

[exotic belfry]

THIS

[gilded vortex]

I’m just saying gambling is about unlikely odds

Also betting money

Even if the median payout is $0

[tropic egret]

no one is betting money here

[gilded vortex]

Just $10 for 2 and 7 offsuit

[jaunty galleon]

you know what ELSE you should download

[brisk seal]

yummy

[gilded vortex]

Your recent art has been outstanding

[hard plank]

mathguy no

[fair thistle]

oof.....

[tropic egret]

that's not betting you're actively trying to avoid offsuit 2 7 from winning

[gilded vortex]

You win by making money

[tropic egret]

no we win by having fun

[gilded vortex]

Then why money

[normal hollow]

you need the latest dev

[fair thistle]

i guess the mod manager doesnt have that version

[gilded vortex]

If you didn’t win by making money, you wouldn’t have the rule

[hard plank]

why does maximus not target latest stable 😭

[fair thistle]

ouchie

[gilded vortex]

The money enables the fun

[exotic belfry]

and also 3xCredits

[tropic egret]

because seeing someone win with offsuit 2 7 is funny and actually takes some skill at our table

[gilded vortex]

Therefore making money is winning

[hard plank]

@exotic belfry what is this blasphemy

[full edge]

Giving FantomsPreview a quick look, I don't know if there's an easy to fix solution. Someone with more experience with that mod might eb able to tell you

[tropic egret]

it's like rewarding for good darts performance

or cup pong or whatever

[gilded vortex]

As I said

[prime dock]

so for reverse world/moon/whatever should it

• turn cards into a new suit
• turn cards into a random suit that isnt a specific one
• turn the cards into a random rank and a specific suit

[gilded vortex]

If you need money as encouragement

You’re not playing for fun

But for money

[tropic egret]

we don't need money as encouragement

[gilded vortex]

Then why award $10

[tropic egret]

we have been playing for years now the house rule only happened like a year ago

[full edge]

me to the psychology student when they ask me why I brought the shopping card back after using it

[gilded vortex]

But the rule exists

[tropic egret]

LOL

[tropic egret]

yes because we all agreed it would be funny

[gilded vortex]

Wouldn’t it be fun without the money?

[fair thistle]

yo grab bag doesnt have like a releases thing where do i download it on the github page

[tropic egret]

if you don't wanna pay just don't pay

[silent oracle]

thanks anyways :), just took a second look at it and found I had it in a subfolder 😅

[tropic egret]

it would still be fun without the money because it happens like once every 6 months

[lethal vapor]

How high is cryptid naneinf? Because I feel like I might have the run

[tropic egret]

we would not be playing if it wasn't fun

we'd probably play bridge instead

[full edge]

ah, yeah, that makes sense, haha. I keep forgetting nesting isn't a thing people check for immediately, haha

[fair thistle]

1 - kinda paperbackish

[tropic egret]

modder suits suck, they're never findable

[fair thistle]

2 - literally ortalab

[tropic egret]

yeah

[fair thistle]

3 - cewl

[jaunty galleon]

oh god i see the light at the end of the tunnel PLEASE just ONE MORE BLIND

[gilded vortex]

What about 600 suits

[full edge]

Yeah, new suits aren't a thing mods really work well with

they tend to need a lot of support to make sense

[gilded vortex]

What do you mean

[tropic egret]

fourfingers shortcut

[gilded vortex]

Just have the suits start in the deck

[gilded vortex]

What does this mean

[tropic egret]

it means you can only play straights early to midgame

[full edge]

Yeah, but now all they do is make each individual suit weaker

[tropic egret]

how likely do you think getting a flush in a 8 suit deck is

[gilded vortex]

I mean, the modded suits still make sense in that case. It just makes Flushes weaker

Flushes are already strong

[fair thistle]

where do i download

[gilded vortex]

So it’s fair

[tropic egret]

well no flushes become unplayable like 2 suits in tbh

[tranquil vessel]

wtf is this darkmode

[full edge]

If a mod adds a new suit without any mechanics that interact with that suit, I turn that suit off, honestly

[fair thistle]

one or two extra suits is actually pretty fine though

[jaunty galleon]

hit that <> code button

[fair thistle]

opera gx moment

[fair thistle]

found it

[tropic egret]

opera gx ...

[fair thistle]

srry i usually use the releases button

[hard plank]

😭

[full edge]

If it's a suit as frequent as the base suits, why is it there besides for it being there? Unless it interacts with new jokers in an interesting way

[gilded vortex]

In fairness, I think Spectrum is the Flush of modded Suits

Meanwhile Flush is the Straight of modded suits

So to balance it properly, the scaling would need to be different

[gilded vortex]

To nerf Flushes

And enable Spectrum

[fair thistle]

one or two suits is actually pretty fine. having a deck that starts with them is also pretty cool. if you do have like more than 2 i would recommend having the specific suit deck start you off with more discards 😅

[jaunty galleon]

only real ones know ...

[tropic egret]

spectrum gets easy 1 suit in

[full edge]

I don't know if that's the best approach to take to nerfing a hand type you think is too strong, tbh

and enabling spectrum is just happenstance, not a reason to add it by itself

[tropic egret]

bunco spectrums are hard because you don't start with the new suit

that's why they're worth so much

just... making spectrums trivial is kinda Balancen't

[fair thistle]

where do i drop the grab bag file

is it okay to drop it into the mod manager

[full edge]

I'm giving up for today. I can't find how the hell the card_focus_ui should work

I don't see why it's not triggering

And I don't see what the source of the buy & use button could be otherwise

[gilded vortex]

I mean, you’re saying thst

I think it’s a good reason

I also think new mechanics should have Jokers interact with them

But YMMV

[gilded vortex]

Why

[full edge]

I mean, can't pretend 'yes' isn't a valid counterargument to my 'no', haha

[gilded vortex]

Preferences and subjective opinions are that

[full edge]

Besides me just strongly disliking new suits because I rarely feel they add anything worthwhile besides clutter

[fair thistle]

where do i drop the file

does mod manager make that any easier? 😅

[full edge]

Mods folder

[gilded vortex]

The clutter is the goal

[prime dock]

does anyone know the weight of spectral packs

[tropic egret]

when you add a new suit it instantly becomes worse than the vanilla suits because. more suits

[gilded vortex]

when you add a new suit it instantly becomes better than the vanilla suits because. more suits

[tropic egret]

more is not always more

[gilded vortex]

Inconsistency > consistency

[fair thistle]

guhhhh im used to using mac!!!!

[teal sky]

Chat I have bad news
They did not seem very impressed with my Balatro skills at the job interview

[hard plank]

also this is offsetted by the art i haven't drawn yet

[tropic egret]

there's no reason to nerf flushes instead of buffing straights normally

[jaunty galleon]

i might try adding a card that counts as its own rank and suit like cryptid's abstract

[gilded vortex]

Their loss

[gilded vortex]

Incorrect

[gilded vortex]

Why?

By nerfing Flushes you also make 5OAK better

[full edge]

Buffing straights with a joker called whey protein and insecurity

[gilded vortex]

And Full House

[normal hollow]

i tried to make flushes worse in my mod and now full house is too good..

[fair thistle]

which path do i go to open up balatro's file. i am seriously lost

[tropic egret]

full house needs no buff and not all hands need to be good

[fair thistle]

no matter how much you nerf a hand, it CAN be viable

Cryptid's None might be useless early game

but all you gotta do is get the jokers

plus, with it, you cant deck out

[full edge]

in the bmm, there's a button called 'mods folder'

[gilded vortex]

Just make playing a specific Poker Hand cause a game loss

[full edge]

click that

[gilded vortex]

[tropic egret]

instead of nerfing flushes you can simply buff hands you like to see more of

[fair thistle]

OHHHH

thank you!!!!

[gilded vortex]

I’m not saying all hands need to be good

[full edge]

viable and strong are two different things, tbh

[fair thistle]

thats 1000000* easier

[teal sky]

[gilded vortex]

I’m saying 3 hands get better

3 isn’t all hands

[jaunty galleon]

needs no buff because it's the GOAT

[prime dock]

which two of these should i keep

[hard plank]

sorry...

[jaunty galleon]

💪

[gilded vortex]

Instead of buffing other hands you can nerf flushes

[tropic egret]

that's simply unfun to people who play flushes

[hard plank]

i am personally not that big of a fan for alternative tarots

[gilded vortex]

Straights are capped in how consistent they can be by their nature

[hard plank]

except more fluff's 45deg tarots

[jaunty galleon]

fool and priestess

[hard plank]

that one is fire

[fair thistle]

well im probably just gonna download the latest dev of whatever yall talked about

[gilded vortex]

I think that’s their issue though

[fair thistle]

i think for alternative tarots you throw out the tarot idea and instead make them based off of something way cooler

[gilded vortex]

Making a good hand weaker shouldn’t make them have less fun

[jaunty galleon]

hey aikoyori aikoyori are these cool

[fair thistle]

flushes can be fun if you just fix the fucking deck

[tropic egret]

give them a reason to move to other hands. make other hands as fun as flushes

[fair thistle]

(not easy)

(BUT they arent completely useless)

[gilded vortex]

Flushes will still be fun, just less consistent

[tropic egret]

making straight more consistent isn't exactly a good thing

for one, think of the gays

[gilded vortex]

As I said before, there’s a limit to how consistent Straights can be

[full edge]

new suits don't work as a way to mess with flushes for me because they either need a lot of support to make a suit compete with the base ones. It also makes it so it's a solution that's never at parity when playing with other mods

[gilded vortex]

I had a measure of it which I can share if you want to talk math

[wanton rapids]

thank you aiyoriok.....

[hard plank]

i

i guess

there are so many tarot equivalent

[full edge]

I wanna make a modpack that adds ~10 mods that add a tarot variant and force each one to add compatible variants for each variant

[gilded vortex]

@tropic egret

[tropic egret]

i mean if you add more suits you need to also add reasons to play the suit

[wanton rapids]

crossmod hell would be kind of funny yeah

[fair thistle]

im searching 3xcredits and all its giving me is extra credit

[full edge]

Inversed, reversed, opposite, 45* rotated, evil, negative tarot

[fair thistle]

what about 90 degree retated

[gilded vortex]

I mean by default without anything else they don’t get debuffed by any Blind that debuffs suits

[tropic egret]

plus adding more suits also just makes deckfixing harder which is my issue

you can't exactly say this buffs 5oak

[fair thistle]

the unholy trinity, 0 degree, 45 degree, 90 degree, 135 degree, etc. to create the ULTIMATE SPINNING TAROT CARDS

rapidly spinning Hanged Man

[gilded vortex]

It makes 5OAK relatively more consistent

And if the suit is in a starting deck

Then it’s also possible from round 1

[tropic egret]

it also makes 5oak harder to draw /shrug

[gilded vortex]

I think going from impossible to possible is an increase in consistency

[normal hollow]

nothing is impossible

[full edge]

Nah they just added it to cryptid

[gilded vortex]

N’ solving the halting problem

[wanton rapids]

okay but none starts locked so

[hard plank]

i can't g et over this

[tropic egret]

it's like 6 times harder than straight flush

[hard plank]

this was the file name i used for my actual work for university

[normal hollow]

previously known as almanac

[gilded vortex]

Are you saying going from 0% chance to draw to some epsilon > 0 chance to draw is a decrease in consistency? 🤔

-#

[tropic egret]

you can make 5oak possible with higher odds in ante 1 too, with strength or ouija

[gilded vortex]

But not usually round 1

[gilded vortex]

I thought the same

[tropic egret]

you wouldn't be able to draw 5oak usually round 1 either

[gilded vortex]

I mean yeah

[hard plank]

story of undertale

[gilded vortex]

There’s no 5 of any card in vanilla

That’s what I’m saying

[tropic egret]

no i meant on a 5 suit deck

[gilded vortex]

I used Minecraft to make images for an university work once

[tropic egret]

you aren't drawing 5oak usually round 1

[gilded vortex]

I’m comparing vanilla to modded though

I said adding an extra suit makes some hands better

[fair thistle]

well now that i know downloading ALL the mods are easy

im gonna download phanta

[tropic egret]

adding suit makes 5oak more consistent is not true because 5oak is easier to draw on a 4 suit deck with a strength than on a 5 suit deck with strength

[gilded vortex]

And one of the ways it makes 5OAK better is by increasing consistency early compared to vanilla

But it’s not the main way

[gilded vortex]

I mean why use that measure

[jaunty galleon]

i never wanna see a fucking boss blind ever again

[gilded vortex]

Why not use my measure

[tropic egret]

because 5oak setup can be done pretty well ante 1

[gilded vortex]

Or why not use a measure of Strength per capita

[tropic egret]

because i think a measure of deckfixability is a more important measure in the long run then round 1 draw

[gilded vortex]

But you’re not measuring in the long run

[tropic egret]

5oak is easier to get on a 4 suit deck after minimal deckfixing than on a 5 suit deck

[gilded vortex]

You’re only measuring the first Strength

[tropic egret]

yes on the second strength it also happens to be true

[gilded vortex]

In the long run is when the limit of deckfixing goes to infinity

[fair thistle]

is this a problem? might i need to use chrome or something

[ornate bone]

one of the base game boss blinds I can safely call my Arch Nemesis is The Needle

[fair thistle]

it showed up as an opera gx web document in my files

[tropic egret]

there is no such thing as deckfixing to infinity

[fair thistle]

unless youre on cryptid

/j

[gilded vortex]

Then what’s “long run” for you

[tropic egret]

it takes more strengths to make 50% of a 5 suit deck one rank than to make 50% of a 4 suit deck one rank

it takes longer to deckfix more cards. who'da thunk

you will take longer to get a stable 5oak run on a 5 suit deck

that is making 5oak worse

[fair thistle]

thunk

???

very local

[gilded vortex]

It’s less consistent in terms of how many individual vanilla deckfixing options you need, but it’s more consistent relative to other hands I think

Also it’s more consistent in round 1

Which can enable you to level it up earlier

[tropic egret]

why does round 1 matter a balatro game has like

[gilded vortex]

Planet X

-# It was Planet X right

[hard plank]

😡

[normal hollow]

my balatro games have at least 3 rounds

after ante 1 i quit tho

[tropic egret]

okay come on you

[blissful plover]

Hey I got a question for modding, It keeps showing me this when I try to find the modding folder

[tropic egret]

your round one is not going to have a 5oak and is not going to have instant telescope voucher

im analysing this from most common deckfixing options not a theoretical perfect seed

[thin python]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/common_events.lua:4016: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 621) near '<eof>'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0527d-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x29dadf48'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x29ddeb10 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x29dd2830, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
got this error how to fix?

[gilded vortex]

I think the main way that it makes 5OAK better is by making Five of a Flush worse

[tropic egret]

Flush Five

[gilded vortex]

So you’re encouraged to stay at 5OAK instead of going to Fish

[hard plank]

update bunco

[jaunty galleon]

is this evil enough

[gilded vortex]

Doesn’t seem very evil

[hard plank]

no

[gilded vortex]

It seems easy

[jaunty galleon]

does it

[gilded vortex]

Yeah

[lone frost]

make it 10X or 12X

[gilded vortex]

You just sell all your Jokers and win

[tropic egret]

that's not evil might have one negative by ante 8

[gilded vortex]

Then you start a new run

[jaunty galleon]

oh lol it caps at 2X

[hard plank]

true

[gilded vortex]

Then the description is wrong

[hard plank]

i think a word once should be at the end

[gilded vortex]

Maybe add “first” or “once” somewhere

[hard plank]

if i know one thing about making blinds it's how I can make them evil

without being super unfair i guess

[jaunty galleon]

but i want you to be able to sell down to the limit if you have the spare jokers

[hard plank]

but you said there is a cap

[tropic egret]

my most evil blind subtracts mult based on money

[hard plank]

...

[gilded vortex]

Does it have a cap or does it not

[gilded vortex]

I think I had that Blind too

[jaunty galleon]

sell down to the limit of 2X?

[tropic egret]

limit means cap

[hard plank]

o

[jaunty galleon]

yeah

[tranquil vessel]

gamepass version?

[gilded vortex]

I did

[tropic egret]

my counterpoint to this is most methods of increasing ranks (DNA, death, cryptid) keep the same suit

[gilded vortex]

Although I didn’t enable it because I didn’t like it

[tropic egret]

you know how to buff 5oak

left rank to the right rank

[gilded vortex]

Otherwise you have what

Grim, Strength,

Ouija?

[tropic egret]

grim is not that valid it's too rank specific tbh

you usually want kings for baron mime anyway

[gilded vortex]

You don’t need Baron Mime

To beat ante 8

[tropic egret]

no you don't

[hard plank]

balalala

[tropic egret]

but it's still situational most people don't deckfix to aces

[wanton rapids]

aiko go to sleep

[tropic egret]

see Photochad

[hard plank]

more fluff...

i slept earlier

[gilded vortex]

I think this train of thought is slightly incorrect

[wanton rapids]

i mean same but like

[tropic egret]

i mean also it adds like. one ace

[gilded vortex]

In an alternate world where 5OAK is “more viable”, people would strategize differently

[tropic egret]

it's also a spectral

[gilded vortex]

Two Aces

[tropic egret]

two aces

[gilded vortex]

100% more Aces than what you said :P

[tropic egret]

but still why not just hold on to the tarot for your suit and change accordingly

[fair thistle]

i found a small oversight in phanta

[gilded vortex]

Hold on for what

[fair thistle]

junk's level up text is just phanta_junk

[blissful plover]

nvm I figured it out, had to run the game first, sorry

[tropic egret]

...tarots like the moon?

[gilded vortex]

I don’t understand

We’re talking about Grim

[tropic egret]

there's still no reason to not switch to flush five

[tranquil vessel]

Who tf is modding the game without having run it at least once

[gilded vortex]

Yes that’s what I’m saying

[tropic egret]

unless like you play silly

[gilded vortex]

I could’ve easily done that since I had played a lot of the demo

[tropic egret]

i thiught this was the opposite of what you were saying

[blissful plover]

new computer lol

[gilded vortex]

No I said 5OAK would be more appealing since Fish would be nerfed

[tranquil vessel]

Ah alright 👍🏻

[tropic egret]

i'm saying that there's no reason to not switch to flush five

[gilded vortex]

That’s not what you wrote

Wait

[tropic egret]

.

[thin python]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/common_events.lua:4023: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 633) near '<eof>'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0527d-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x00c5c238'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x00c50130 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x00c50490, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
got that error with

[gilded vortex]

It is what you wrote but it’s not what you seem to be saying

[ornate bone]

wild idea. a mega drive joker like super balatario bros.

[umbral pilot]

you got a lotta mods there

[ivory sinew]

I have a custom booster tag that still opens even after one of them open

[ornate bone]

heh heh.

[ivory sinew]

They should open one at a time

[tropic egret]

what

[gilded vortex]

Can you phrase it in a way that’s not a

[tropic egret]

oh right you speak Portuguese

my bad

[gilded vortex]

I also speak English

But like natives of all languages struggle with double negatives

[lament kernel]

What are some good modpacks that are currently being maintained?

[prime dock]

anyone know any mods that add new booster packs with new consumables

i need to borrow some code

[gilded vortex]

Ortalab

Paperback

[thin python]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/common_events.lua:4023: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 633) near '<eof>'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0527d-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x00c5c238'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x00c50130 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x00c50490, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
got that error with

[gilded vortex]

When does this happen

[tropic egret]

i don't think most people i know won't get double negatives ...

it's like a normal feature of usually british educated english

[thin python]

startup

[tropic egret]

i also speak mandarin which also double negates

[gilded vortex]

I mean there are multiple jokes about double negatives being confusing

[tropic egret]

yeah but those jokes are usually triple negation or more

[gilded vortex]

You’re extrapolating from me not understanding this particular double negative anyways

[gilded vortex]

That’s an exaggeration for comedy

You could do it with just a double negative

But the exaggeration emphasizes it

[umbral pilot]

I'm not like not in the loop but I don't want to not be in the loop

[prime dock]

ortalab doesnt have boosters yet

i dont think at lweast

[tropic egret]

not that i don't see just that i don't see nobody not doing that

[west hill]

Yeah it does

[hard plank]

it does 😭

[tropic egret]

in there's still no reason not to switch to flush five
contextually i'm implying that i think switching to flush five doesn't actively hurt any 5oak build

[hard plank]

i told u to update bunco

https://github.com/jumbocarrot0/Bunco/releases/tag/5.4-JumboFork

[earnest stump]

chat what was the mod that changes balatro's color theme

[hard plank]

Trance

[earnest stump]

i forgor the name

THANK U

[hard plank]

smh

this joker is too intimidating

i shat myself

[tropic egret]

speedy thing goes in

speedy thing comes out

[hard plank]

my idea is that they would debuff all jokers if you put orange before the blue

and retrigger all jokers in the portal if you put blue before orange

essentiall portal

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[tropic egret]

aikoyori

[wanton rapids]

isn't that that one yahimod joker

[hard plank]

but here's the kicker

you can have multiple

😁

[wanton rapids]

pov: you can pay an additional cost for an additional effect:

[hard plank]

😭

portal 2 dlc

[thin python]

i did with the error Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/common_events.lua:4023: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 633) near '<eof>'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0527d-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.8.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x009f1c00'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x009d29c8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x009d2a18, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[hard plank]

did you download from the link i sent

[fair thistle]

what in the fresh fuck is this

[thin python]

yeas

[hard plank]

also i can't exactly give you support

simply because you're using PWX

[harsh glacier]

oh gdi another thing that adds exponential chips and mult

[hard plank]

and idk much about pwx

[harsh glacier]

i have to add compat to this too

😭

[hard plank]

can we add this to base steamodded

for no reason

or talisman

[ivory sinew]

Mind fark

[uncut quarry]

hello

i could do with a lil help

which joker allows you to sell eternal cards

[hard plank]

wat

[west hill]

Can we delete talisman from existence

[wind turtle]

?

[hard plank]

i mean my mod has this

[tropic egret]

i hate things that straight up ignore eternal

[warm swan]

Is there a deck that gives unlimited Joker slots/all negative jokers?

[warm swan]

SAME

[tropic egret]

like what's the point ...

[gilded vortex]

I was trying to find examples of this happening to people

[hard plank]

😭

[gilded vortex]

What do you mean by “hurt”?

[warm swan]

FOUND IT

[hard plank]

other things in my mod don't

[fair thistle]

im playing normal mods

like, this is the only deck that does this

[tropic egret]

i mean making flush five is just not hard

[gilded vortex]

Have you watched the YouTube channel that talks about portals, including multi portals?

[tranquil vessel]

no no no but hear me out my mod then introduces an "actually eternal" sticker so there's still stuff you can't get rid of! /s

[hard plank]

i feel like you have already asked me this question

[gilded vortex]

It’s slightly harder than vanilla

[gilded vortex]

I also feel that way

[hard plank]

😭

[wise musk]

I tried installing Cryptid and this came up on startup, any help?

[tropic egret]

yeah but still there's no downside

[fair thistle]

yeah, you introduce a mechanic that makes eternal not an ETERNAL punishment

[gilded vortex]

though this is less about confusion and more about how people use it in practice

[fair thistle]

and then you introduce a higher level of sticker

that is NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO GET

and have it be BAD

[gilded vortex]

Agreed

[tropic egret]

why stay at 5oak when you can use a singular The Star

[gilded vortex]

But this Joker does

Why does it

[gilded vortex]

I mean, the point is that it’s slightly harder

[uncut quarry]

yes thank you

[tropic egret]

turret bullets are not stronger than my ceremonial dagger

[gilded vortex]

Which mainly means you’re discouraged to look for it

[tropic egret]

turret bullets can shoot chell like 30 times in the chest and she still lives

those guns are weak ash

[hard plank]

feel like it

[warm swan]

What Poker Hand gives the best score?

(I have Spectrum as well)

[gilded vortex]

Is anyone else here a compatibilist

[tropic egret]

spectrum five

[warm swan]

Thanks

[gilded vortex]

-# in terms of free will versus determinism

[hard plank]

i have a puzzle for smart people

[tropic egret]

yes but not cryptid

[hard plank]

what should the last case do

[gilded vortex]

Yeah I meant in terms of free will versus determinism

[gilded vortex]

I don’t understand anything

[ashen tide]

wait, where did you get a skill tree and levels from

[normal hollow]

yggdrasil

[warm swan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1368169102103019610

[gilded vortex]

Do you adhere to some specific type of compatibilism

[fair thistle]

photochad only and level 6 full house btw.

[harsh glacier]

rookie numbers

[fair thistle]

this is why the normal deck limits you to one joker slot only.

[tropic egret]

i believe that all actions are morally under free will EXCEPT when you encounter mothman

[fair thistle]

(Im using black sleeve)

[gilded vortex]

I think that free will requires determinism 🤔

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[tropic egret]

this is what i meant by "yes except for cryptid"

[hard plank]

i hate retriggers but

[gilded vortex]

Hi haya what is your opinion n free will versus determinism

[tropic egret]

i also think that balatro server modding-chat might be the worst place for philosophical takes

[wanton rapids]

hello chat and also the other people in this channel

[tropic egret]

well there's always. 4chan

[hard plank]

notmario do you understand the drawing i made

[tropic egret]

hi notmario

[gilded vortex]

wh

[wanton rapids]

uh no

[hard plank]

😭

[wanton rapids]

like a year ago sure

[hard plank]

ok it's basically my concept for portal jokers

[tropic egret]

also aiko my advice is that you are not explaining this in a joker description

please reconsider

[wanton rapids]

true

[hard plank]

ok fair

[tropic egret]

this looks like something i would find in a coding competition

[hard plank]

😭

this is just a concept i sketched on mspaint

[tropic egret]

it genuinely looks like a computational problem

[umbral pilot]

im not smart

[gilded vortex]

This looks like something I’d find in a crank talking about how they solved the secrets of the primes

[umbral pilot]

good luck

[wanton rapids]

do the portals only look that way when nested

[hard plank]

when there are multiple

those are kinda co op colours just to avoid some confusion

[wanton rapids]

also i fear this is too complicated

[gilded vortex]

How many times do you retrigger

[tropic egret]

why do you have to be so complicated

duh buh duh bum

[wanton rapids]

9 out of 10 balatro players recommend not reading

[tropic egret]

i recommend reading

[hard plank]

ok i guess im not doing the retrigger