⚙・modding-general

[hard plank]

@plush hound

[plush hound]

helo

[hard plank]

how do i word this

imagine you play glass card

then after play the boss debuffs all glass cards

[plush hound]

Enhanced Cards will be debuffed after being played.

Debuffed Enhanced Cards after scoring {Enhancement}

[dreamy abyss]

new friends?

[gilded vortex]

Maybe "Debuff #1# played this round"?

[hard plank]

?

[gilded vortex]

wha

why did you forward SMODS

[hard plank]

new branch

[hard plank]

my intention is that

uh

not specific enhancement

[gilded vortex]

So if you play Glass, Steels are debuffed?

[hard plank]

if you play glass

glass are debuffed on subsequent hands

if you play steel

then steel are debuffed on subsequent hands

[gilded vortex]

then what I said works

[novel heron]

roffle just encountered the infamous bug

hand broken and phantom cards as well

[gilded vortex]

you could maybe go with "Debuff each #1# played this round", if there's space

[novel heron]

and i think he literally just has a twitch mod enabled

[hard plank]

it compounds tho

so if you play mult mult bonus lucky glass

all of them are debuffed on subsequent hands

[queen mortar]

do yall any good mods to expand on the game

[wind knoll]

Hey my Balatro isn't loading 2x card skins for the 8bitdeck png, what do

[novel heron]

no only bad mods sorry

[hard plank]

sorry only bad mods

[gilded vortex]

exactly

[hard plank]

adding that makes it too long

[gilded vortex]

my wording works

[hard plank]

what is in #1#

[gilded vortex]

What do you want to be debuffed

[hard plank]

i thought you meant i put the things that ARE debuffed there

as in

[gilded vortex]

I don't understand that sentence

[hard plank]

each one

[gilded vortex]

each one

out of the one for each boss

[hard plank]

no i th0ought you meant individyual suit/rank debuffed in there

[gilded vortex]

No that's not how Boss UI works

Boss UI is static

Debuff Suits played this round

Debuff Ranks played this round

Debuff Enhancements played this round

[west hill]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta-0530b
target this now pls

[hard plank]

@gilded vortex haver you seen

[hard plank]

YOOOO

NEW RELEASE?

FINALLY

[novel heron]

LFG IT'S OUT

huge release

[west hill]

now time to get on my new schedule

[novel heron]

you mean like real life?

[west hill]

oh no I already do that

I mean the smods schedule

[gilded vortex]

seen what

[normal hollow]

big release for @/nh6574 fans

[hard plank]

https://studio.tailwindui.com/

[west hill]

the next one will be the same 🤣

all those PRs sat waiting

[storm forum]

https://youtu.be/JA6jXAj6R28

[floral wing]

Anyone know how to detect if a scored card has the same rank or suite as another scored card?

[novel heron]

phew okay i thought you have like real life responsibilities that are like more important than balatro modding

[storm forum]

Store the rank or suit somewhere and then compare.

[gilded vortex]

not the can_calculate nil handling 😭

[west hill]

I suppose I should probably look after my kids too

[gilded vortex]

took me a moment but no I hadn't.

needs more spice

[novel heron]

victin | my prs hater

[gentle quarry]

cant imagine any of those

[west hill]

a nil check is the best way around it I think

[gilded vortex]

I feel like if it's nil then the modder did something wrong

[gilded vortex]

it's not you

it's your PRs

[west hill]

I don't think that's true

[gentle quarry]

guys i made the text for my joker X-2 mult but i made it so it gives you X2 mult

[gilded vortex]

how so

@hard plank

[warm swan]

Why does my game crash after a couple minutes? I know I have 67 mods, but that shouldn't be a problem should it?

[hard plank]

yeah

[novel heron]

that is the "problem", welcome to modding

[west hill]

because the crash comes from evaluating an object that isn't a card, which I don't think is a particularly unreasonable thing to want to do

[full edge]

do you get a crash log? or does it just shut down?

[warm swan]

It just shuts down.

I have been adding mods 1 by 1

[full edge]

you're running cryptid and talisman, I assume?

[warm swan]

So that I know what mod causes an error.

[hard plank]

wait wtf

[warm swan]

Yeah, why?

[gilded vortex]

But then it should check the object type, not if it has can_calculate

[gilded vortex]

typo

[west hill]

but checking if it has can_calculate does the same thing?

[full edge]

uninstall Talisman and install the latest version of talisman

[novel heron]

there's no problem with you or anyone else improving on that

[gilded vortex]

No because they could in theory remove it from a card

[warm swan]

Why? Does refreshing it work? I downloaded this version today.

[hard plank]

not a typo

[gilded vortex]

I don't get it then

[west hill]

in that case, checking for the existance of the function is a more robust check

[gilded vortex]

I mean, it should break if they do that

Because it would break anyways

[latent crescent]

What's happening

[hard plank]

the website is a joke...

[gilded vortex]

if it skipped the check

[gilded vortex]

I know

but is the typo a joke?

[full edge]

I can't tell you why it works, just that it does. I think it might reset some values that get set internally. Every time this issue's popped up it's resolved by updating or reinstalling talisman, is about as far as my knowledge of it goes

[west hill]

either way, the crash is from other objects being passed in as the other_card context value, which is also a perfectly valid thing to do

[warm swan]

Ah, okay. Thanks :)

[gilded vortex]

also I'm not sure how I feel about the ignore_sliced argument

[hard plank]

i think so

[gilded vortex]

I think at that point it might make more sense to pass a table

[gilded vortex]

oh I thought you made the website

[gilded vortex]

because modders could patch their own checks to disable calculation

[normal hollow]

i probably should do that in my mod instead of using getting_sliced and then resetting it to nil... but im lazy

[west hill]

adding your own checks is a simple hook

and maybe a simple patch if you need to set a flag in certain situations

but if you genuinely have suggestions to change it, please put them in a PR

[gilded vortex]

yeah but then modders can't pass ignore_my_check

also we talked about this before, but setting Card.getting_sliced happens very late right

So multiple cards can try to destroy the same card

[west hill]

no

not anymore

[gilded vortex]

But I see you doing it inside SMODS.destroy_cards

isn't it called at the end of scoring?

[west hill]

oh, maybe then

I dunno

go and play with it and figure it out and then pr a change if you want to change it

[gilded vortex]

I mean, I'd advise people to set Card.getting_sliced inside their calculate functions

Which was the previous official recommendation

[normal hollow]

didnt that have the problem that cards couldn't calculate themselves being destroyed

[hard plank]

talisman 😭

[gilded vortex]

This PR adds a flag to enable cards with effects on destruction to be calculated

So it solves that issue

[normal hollow]

idk im always inclined to make all of these flags and buffers automatic

they're a pain

[gilded vortex]

You're welcome to do a PR :P

[west hill]

I don't think there's a way to auto add the flag inbetween joker scoring due to how it works

[normal hollow]

i did, check the dollar buffer one

[gilded vortex]

1. The loop that gets the flag from Card.calculate's return could handle it at that moment;
2. The previous and current recommendation is for modders to set it themselves inside Card.calculate.

[west hill]

well, there is a way, but it'd require completely rewriting how card destruction works

[warm swan]

Reinstalled Talisman; Game is still crashing.

[gilded vortex]

If you don't like the recommendation of manually setting Card.getting_sliced, you can do a PR :P

[normal hollow]

i mean i just don't do it for playing cards

you cant make me :3

[west hill]

yeah it's not something I particularly care about in my own effects

[gilded vortex]

I mean, you should to be consistent with how SMODS works

Otherwise it introduces issues

[west hill]

I think adding getting_sliced between jokers causes uninuitive behaviours to occur for the average player

[gilded vortex]

Although you probably don't crash

[gilded vortex]

what do you mean player

[full edge]

Ah, that sucks. Do you start up if you just uninstall talisman and cryptid?

[gilded vortex]

I think if there's multiple card destruction effects happening in sequence, they shouldn't be able to destroy the same card

I think two such effects with the same target is more unintuitive

Of course you can have things like blanket chances to destroy versus positional destruction

But the former doesn't care much about this check

The latter does, and is more intuitive if they're separate

[warm swan]

I have add-ons for Cryptid. Also, I'm trying to play with as many mods as possible; Should I just skip Cryptid and it's expansions?

[west hill]

For example, if I have joker A that reads Destroy all cards in the first discard and joker B that reads If a 6 is discarded create a Tarot card, I would expect when I discard say, 2/2/6/8/9, that all cards get destroyed and I get a tarot card, no matter the joker order, where as if I add getting sliced after joker A, I wouldn't get a tarot card, which isn't intuitive.

[novel heron]

for the start i would recommend that, yeah

[tiny iron]

Hey, I'm new to Balatro modding, can anyone help me get the cryptid mod working

[warm swan]

wdym for the start?

[full edge]

If it does start up that way, I'd make sure to report the issue on the Cryptid server as well. I still am not sure to what degree the Talisman devs are aware of this issue. Though there is a chance this is a separate one, of course.

[novel heron]

if you are just starting to try playing as many mods as possible i mean...there is kind of an art to it lol

[warm swan]

Ah, okay. No Cryptid then.

[novel heron]

just for the record i'm not saying that cryptid is bad or that any other mod is, but there is a reason the "talisman moment" and "cryptid moment" memes exist in this chat - i'd love to add cryptid to the other 70 mods i have enabled at some point lol

[desert bane]

hello! sorry if this is not the place to ask, im new to the server, game and modding it too. i'm starting off simple, just want to load 1 mod - Bunco. but i keep getting a conflict with lovely even though it's the latest version. please lmk if i should ask somewhere else!

[west hill]

woops, this should say destroy the 6 and create a tarot card

[full edge]

are you using the fork pinned in the #1220084296346501201 channel?

[warm swan]

Ah, okay.

[gilded vortex]

context.pre_discard shouldn't be affected, so that effect would work either way

[dense egret]

hi, i have a question, would be more easy program jokers if i know lua? like for search tutorial and things, I really can't find much information on making jokers, I don't know where to start.

[normal hollow]

yes, it will
but I also recommend checking the thread in the pinned post for some guides and check this to see how the vanilla jokers work
https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua

[tiny iron]

Can anybody DM me and walk me through installing the Cryptid mod? I followed a tutorial from a week ish ago and it said something about compatibility and didn't work. Can anyone help?

[novel heron]

to offer another perspective from the same guy (hey it's me again), just going with talisman + cryptid + all it's expansions, you can get an experience that's comparable to a heavily modded setup and maybe even more stable - but that's just what i could tell from other people's screenshots and videos - you could go that route and add mods 1 by 1 from there, but that's just gonna take longer and be harder

[gilded vortex]

Actually maybe the following works: @west hill what if individual-like contexts during discard and play used the ignore_sliced flag of Card.can_calculate? Does that solve the issue?

If a mod wants to arbitrarily destroy a card mid-scoring, then maybe they can add a new flag, that isn't ignored, and patch it in

[desert bane]

yes! here is the version in my mods screen, it's exactly the same as the JumboFork (i meant to send a screenshot but it's not sending)

[gilded vortex]

with the expectation that the animation plays mid-round, so it would appear consistent

[warm swan]

Yeah, okay.

@full edge Help please.

[gilded vortex]

SMODS can go a step further and add a flag Card.dont_calculate that can't be ignored

[novel heron]

thanks for reminding me that i wanted to PR this into the smods wiki here https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Your-First-Mod

[storm forum]

...okay, my reverse scoring still works with the fresh release...

[normal hollow]

pr what?

[desert bane]

are image perms off in this channel

[west hill]

the only context that should ignore the sliced flag is the removal one

[novel heron]

oh nvm it already is on that page sorry

a link to vanillaremade i meant

[tiny iron]

Sorry to bother, but can anybody DM me and help install the Cryptid mod? I followed a tutorial from a week ish ago and it said something about compatibility and didn't work. I downloaded both Lovely and Steam Modded and I don't know whats happening

[full edge]

Are you running All In Jest? If they have a pre-release or dev version, you'll wanna grab that, I think this issue is fixed there

[normal hollow]

yeah ejwu added it pretty much immediately lol

[gilded vortex]

But why

[warm swan]

Yes I am. I will do, thanks.

[full edge]

Feel free to DM me the pic

[novel heron]

1. https://discord.gg/cryptid
2. state your question more precisely

[amber ice]

I need some help and I don't know if this is the place

I want to load a joker made by me and stuff but when I open the game it doesn't load

[west hill]

because if I destroy a card in context.before it shouldn't do any other calculations during the scoring loop apart from being removed

[tiny iron]

Thanks

[gilded vortex]

Then doesn't that contradict your example

[novel heron]

shouldn't be

[gilded vortex]

Either cards are destroyed immediately or they're destroyed late

[warm swan]

I thought I had the latest, but a new version came out 30 minutes ago lol

[gilded vortex]

I'm confused now

[full edge]

Good timing, haha. I'm not sure if it's fixed. If it's not, you can also go into the Kino folder and delete the Baby Driver joker, which should fix it

[warm swan]

K

[west hill]

uhhh I guess it does

[amber ice]

Can I link the tutorial I was following or something?

[west hill]

but that comes with destroying cards outsiide of the default timing

[amber ice]

I don't have the confidence to put my main.lua

[novel heron]

let's go

[gilded vortex]

which is why I suggested a new flag, Card.dont_calculate, which can't be ignored

[normal hollow]

i think any mod trying to destroy cards in scoring should be deleted off of github

[gilded vortex]

and it serves as a generic flag so you don't have 100 mods adding 100 Card.gonna_be_destroyed

[amber ice]

https://youtu.be/Zp-4U5TlbxY

[novel heron]

don't ask to ask, if you do something bad we will just bully you relentlessly so don't worry

[gilded vortex]

I think an'y trying to delete mods off github mid scoring should be sent to the GY

[amber ice]

I wanted to make it so any scored spade card gives mult

[west hill]

but that's what getting sliced is for?

[amber ice]

Got it

[novel heron]

okay so that tutorial has the file header instead of the json metadata, so first things first, check if your mod is actually loaded in the mods menu

[gilded vortex]

clearly not since you don't want it to apply mid-scoring

[amber ice]

It doesn't

[gilded vortex]

only post-scoring

[west hill]

no, I don't want it to apply in the middle of the card destruction context

[novel heron]

then remove the header in your main.lua and follow this closely:

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-Metadata

[gilded vortex]

but that's already handled in the current release

[fallow bramble]

The anti-pair run

[gilded vortex]

although thinking about it, I don't think my suggestion resolves my issue

[normal hollow]

no m

[west hill]

the current version applies getting_sliced when you use SMODS.destroy_cards or after a card has calculated through all the areas in context.destroy_card

[fallow bramble]

Shoutout grab bag

[gilded vortex]

get Paranoia 👀

[fallow bramble]

The run's already over and I'm not sure why this would help the build

[gilded vortex]

Forward it to the Cryptid server

they'll know what to o

[gilded vortex]

It's an anti-Pair Joker

[fallow bramble]

?

[gilded vortex]

-# that's the joke

[fallow bramble]

Worked so well 2 people called you on it

[gilded vortex]

but also I'm pro-"send Cryptid issues to Cryptid server"

[normal hollow]

i dont see anything

[hard plank]

did anything change UI wise in latest Steamodded

[novel heron]

maybe you aren't in the cryptid discord and that's why? for me it shows up

[gilded vortex]

but that's too late as we discussed

[normal hollow]

probably

[gilded vortex]

for destruction effects deciding what to target

[normal hollow]

deck ui?

[novel heron]

lmao YOU did like a huge UI change in smods, no?

[hard plank]

i crash on loading game

[warm swan]

@full edge The new version of All In Jest didn't fix it, so I deleted the Baby Driver file. Now I'm getting an error saying it's missing the Baby Driver file.

[hard plank]

no??????

[gilded vortex]

I'm not there and it showed up for me

[warm swan]

Same

[novel heron]

the fonts thingggg?

[fallow bramble]

Think so cause it caused a crash with CardSleeves recently

[amber ice]

What's up with the main_file, badge_colour, badge_text_colour and dependencies part?

[normal hollow]

the fonts thing is not used in vanilla tho

[novel heron]

damn i need to try out new smods release lfg

[full edge]

ah, a shame. I forgot you'd need to comment it out in the jokers.lua file too. But I think just to be safe, you'll have to either pick Kino or All In Jest. But do let the All In Jest devs know that the issue's still around!

[amber ice]

Nvm

[gilded vortex]

@west hill can you reopen this https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/issues/692

[warm swan]

I'll comment it out. If that doesn't work, I'm going with Balatro Goes Kino (movies are pog). Also, I'm not really sure what the error is, so could you let them know?

[full edge]

Yeah, I'll remind them, haha. It's an issue with them having a very ambitious mechanic in their mod that replaces code, which happens to break mine, haha.

[novel heron]

new smods doesn't crash for me

[fallen hedge]

hi

[warm swan]

K, thanks. Btw I got it to work after commenting out the Baby Driver line :)

[hard plank]

h

[west hill]

If you want it to apply inbetween jokers (which I don't think it should in the destruction context specifically), write the code and PR it, it doesn't need an endless back and forth between people that think different things, it needs actually testing to see how it feels

[gilded vortex]

I think it's clear between you and @novel heron you prefer to write a PR and fix issues later, while I prefer to introduce something without issues in the first place

especially if I can avoid writing a PR that wouldn't get merged

[fallen hedge]

can i show off a few jokers i made rq

[gilded vortex]

but also I can see some of your points so I'm not sure what's the best solution

which is why I want to discuss it on GitHub

Where people can easily find the discussion

[normal hollow]

yes

[west hill]

and where nobody will ever discuss it...

[gilded vortex]

Don't worry I'll ping you there ;P

[novel heron]

i mostly abandonded idealized perfectionism for monkeypatch practicality, sorry - i just used too many frameworks and libraries that didn't fix things like ever because "muh but this SHOULD break and people just use it wrong" and stuff like that

[fallow bramble]

What's the point just dm him

[gilded vortex]

but anyways it's more likely people will see it there

[west hill]

although, I think adding getting sliced inbetween jokers would alter vanilla gameplay

[normal hollow]

i feel like the only things that would get discussed are things people want like quantum ranks

[gilded vortex]

Isn't that how Dagger and Madness works

[fallen hedge]

ok heres a few

[gilded vortex]

they do it in-between

[novel heron]

but with that, although in the minority, i agree - discord is a garbage medium for any of this

[west hill]

madness and dagger don't destroy playing cards

[fallow bramble]

Red chips???? 😱

[fallen hedge]

red chips 😲

[gilded vortex]

yeah but the animation plays mid-scoring

[west hill]

but that's not relevant at all to what's being discussed?

[gilded vortex]

and it's order-dependent

so if a playing card has a similar effect

[warm swan]

After getting rid of Cryptid + Talisman, the game now crashes without an error message when clicking on a card.

[gilded vortex]

or a Joker has a similar effect on a playing card

then it should be handled

[fallen hedge]

i need to modify the description a bit but i like this one

[west hill]

in vanilla, if I have two trading card jokers and discard a single card, I get $6. Your proposed changes would stop that

[gilded vortex]

Not my proposed change which passes the flag to ignore Card.getting_sliced

Discussing it on GitHub would make it easier to see my growing list of suggestions

[west hill]

I have absolutely zero idea what you're trying to suggest now

[fallow bramble]

lol

[gilded vortex]

If you reopen the issue it'll be easier to write a post explaining it

[west hill]

it seems that you want to both add the flag after each joker is calculated, and also ignore it for the rest of the calculation step?

[gilded vortex]

☝️

[novel heron]

i keep moving this to a meta discussion about how trying to do "perfect code" never works in the real world, because as i said on github, i have like 0 experience in balatro modding, so i probably can't really judge the specifics here as good as you guys

tldr i don't have much to add, sry

[normal hollow]

If I understand correctly, a flag for cards that are getting destroyed that doesn't stop calculations so other cards don't destroy the same card

[gilded vortex]

I mean, I'm not even sure which solution is best right now

I'm trying to figure it out

Not the perfect solution

Just a feasible solution that does what I want

Originally I wanted to set the flag immediately, but Eremel raised an issue, so I'm trying to work around that

[warm swan]

^ Help

[novel heron]

but then do as eremel suggested and code something up in a PR? i think we are all coders and not talkers for a reason lol

[west hill]

if what you want is to stop cards targetting the same card for destruction based effects, it would alter vanilla gameplay and won't be merged

[hard plank]

original idea is this

wtf am i cooking

[gilded vortex]

It would only alter vanilla gameplay if vanilla checked for the flags

Vanilla doesn't

so it wouldn't

[normal hollow]

isn't this broken

[gilded vortex]

Trading Card just sets the card to be destroyed without checking anything about it

[west hill]

well then you're introducing inconsistent effects, which is just as bad

[gilded vortex]

Not really

[normal hollow]

i think it's also hard for smods to enforce checking or setting this flag

[novel heron]

srsly you might get your point across better through code, because i understand not wanting to break vanilla but also your "usecase" (?) seems valid

[west hill]

right, well, if you want to code it and PR it, do that, or go and open an issue with a well thought out explanation to be considered

[gilded vortex]

I'm fine with requiring modders to handle it manually, but also it needs some internal structure to encourage them to

[gilded vortex]

I asked you to reopen the existing issue to continue from it

I can open a new issue and link the old one, but it's the same topic

[normal hollow]

i dont get what the structure is honestly
i would also like a PR lol

[gilded vortex]

Originally the structure was Card.can_calculate

but it got modified by people that aren't me

[normal hollow]

but that's for calculations, you want a flag that still does calculations

[west hill]

just make a new issue, it's not really the same as the old one anyway

[novel heron]

your issue is was more general and was completed by another PR/commit - if you understood it differently or think a specific case is not "completed" or "solved", i think it's pretty standard to just open another issue/PR to address the specifics, just saying

[west hill]

or rather, it's shifted enough that it doesn't need to continue it

[gilded vortex]

I mean, I created Card.can_calculate specifically to avoid multiple Jokers calculating on cards that are going to be destroyed

and by multiple Jokers I mean multiple calculate functions trying to destroy the same cards

including e.g. Enhancements

[normal hollow]

i feel like you named it wrong then lmao

[void marten]

When I install mods, why does the colors look washed out? Like a white filter over the entire screen

[novel heron]

no idea but screenshot because i'm curious

[void marten]

Okay give me a sec!

[gilded vortex]

The intent was to handle both Card A's testing if Card B exists inside Card A's calculate (e.g. "can I calculate with Card B?") and otherwise if Card B itself can be calculated

I think the name is apt

[normal hollow]

i dont agree, can_calculate to me means "can it run calculate" not "can be calculated on"

which is probably the reason it got changed like that

[novel heron]

probably then it should be named calculatable lol

-# or calculateable?

[normal hollow]

calc

[novel heron]

c

[normal hollow]

short for calculator

[gilded vortex]

1. "calculatable" means it can be calculated;
2. I prefer clearer names, especially for such functions that do checks to return a boolean

a question is a clear name for instances of this archetype of functions

[west hill]

I'm pretty sure can_calculate only originally checked if a card itself could be calculated, it never looked at other cards, right?

[gilded vortex]

yes-no questions, I mean

[gilded vortex]

That's compatible with what I said

[novel heron]

i mean then at least can_be_calculated

i personally hate question function names if there are shorter alternative names with the same exact meaning but i get what you mean

[hard plank]

there we go

[west hill]

it's not compatible with what you stated your original intent of the function was

[novel heron]

bike-shedding in balatro modding???

[normal hollow]

oh that's cool

[gilded vortex]

can_calculate and calculateable are the name number of characters

[gilded vortex]

How so?

[west hill]

but that's beside the point

[novel heron]

yeah but can_calculate doesn't mean the same thing

[gilded vortex]

It does though

[novel heron]

okay let's try it

can you kill?

or can you be killed?

[void marten]

@novel heron

[gilded vortex]

ask a knife "can you kill"

versus asking a victim

[novel heron]

fuck you actually got a point damn

[gilded vortex]

but also the question here is existential

[fallow bramble]

asking a Victin

[novel heron]

uhm...that looks fine? maybe a comparison pic without mods? also what mods did you add?

[gilded vortex]

A card can be calculated if it exists*, so whether I want to use its calculate function, or another object's calculate function wants to use it, I want to know if the card exists at that point of calculation, knowing animations only play later

[normal hollow]

i dont see it, the knife is the one running calculate and the victim can be calculated

[gilded vortex]

*When implementing the function, I ran into issues with Card.debuff, which is why I extended the scope

[novel heron]

r/brandnewsentence

[normal hollow]

i also dont think cards that destroy should check for debuff so that ruins the purpose for me

vanilla calculates on debuffed cards

[novel heron]

sorry i fucking derailed it again, it wasn't even about the name

[gilded vortex]

That's why Card.can_calculate has a flag to ignore the debuff status

from the original PR

it's been there

[normal hollow]

i feel like all of those arguments make the function too messy

[gilded vortex]

and it's been used

I agree

When I wrote the PR, I asked if a table with the context and other possible arguments would be better

But I committed anyways instead of looking for a perfect version

No one complained

[void marten]

@novel heron trying to figure out how to screenshot on bazzite standby

[gilded vortex]

and no one made a PR to address that

so it stood

so, if you don't like the arguments, you can write a PR ;P

[normal hollow]

i just think this is something only you care about no offense lol

[novel heron]

yeah no worries, but there's a very low chance i'll be actually able to help, just trying to help you getting help

[normal hollow]

you cant say this to us because you are the one that wants others to do your standard lol

[gilded vortex]

I'm not making people use my standard

My complaint was to the same degree your complaint about function arguments

Therefore I think it's equivalent

[void marten]

@novel heron see how it looks white over the whole screen

[gilded vortex]

and fair of me to say it

[normal hollow]

personally im fine how it is now is what im saying

[normal hollow]

damn

[gilded vortex]

I originally made it because I made a Joker that destroys Consumables during scoring

There's no standard for that

And it would just crash or behave weirdly before

Since it would happen mid-scoring

[novel heron]

okay that looks BRIGHT af but what mods do you have installed?

[gilded vortex]

and I think allowing destruction to happen mid-scoring is a positive

and this enables that

[novel heron]

wait this might actually be the game shader not working

[hard plank]

:3

[normal hollow]

I actually agree with you, I just don't think this is going to get solved by anyone else

[plush bronze]

how do i delete every last balatro file from my pc, i need to do a super hard reset because a modpack decided to remove my consumable slots entirely and i dont know what i did to cause that

[normal hollow]

you need to PR it how you want it until people agree or until you give up

[gilded vortex]

T'is fine but I'm not sure how to solve it exactly

[gilded vortex]

or until they block me from PRing because they closed my n'-th copy of the issue (I haven't changed my mind and neither have them)

[hard plank]

end

[novel heron]

i think the problem is you want other people to care about feature as much as you do but that's like - called a job

[gilded vortex]

what's that hyphen-minus sign

Is it supposed to be a "–"

[dense egret]

sorry i have a question, if _self and _card opposite things why you can put both on the same joker?
or, _card only can hook/affect other cards?

[novel heron]

my inability to punctuate english mixed with an attempt to hide it - read it as a pause longer than a semicolon but shorter than a period LMAO

[normal hollow]

can you give an example of what you mean I don't get it lol

[normal hollow]

ok chatgpt

[gilded vortex]

Traditionally in programming self refers to the object itself

[alpine wharf]

psssst can someone do me a favor

I need the legendary joker backdrop

im on my phone rn so I can't grab it

[normal hollow]

spriters resource?

[gilded vortex]

It just seems incorrect to use this kind of punctuation to insert a pause there. I reckon an ellipsis would work

[void marten]

@novel heron

[novel heron]

i would normally use triple periods / ellipsis like this...but then i read somewhere online that only serial killers do this so i stopped

[novel heron]

okay thanks, i will readd ... to my repertoire

[normal hollow]

that's why i use..

[dense egret]

so like "i program this_so him can affect others_doing this"??

[alpine wharf]

thats why I use,,,

[gilded vortex]

I hope N'—the dashing rogue—doesn't see how I write; I hope they don't

[gilded vortex]

I don't understand your question

[dense egret]

me neither, im trying to understan the basic code of jokers

[gilded vortex]

those are three periods in a row, you can't trick me ;P

[dense egret]

i will real more before asking again xd

[gilded vortex]

ALT-0133 types an ellipsis

[novel heron]

also i think you are exaggerating here, just try again and try to get your point across better, i guess

[gilded vortex]

ALT-0150 an EN dash and ALT-0151 an EM dash

[hard plank]

@gilded vortex what do you think

[normal hollow]

—–·

[novel heron]

i will not use correct punctuation in discord i'm sorry...english's million fucking apostrophes are enough for me

[normal hollow]

i dont use apostrophes unless my phone autocorrects

[novel heron]

… is just alt-. on macos

i still won't do it

[gilded vortex]

The difference is basically because vanilla defines Jokers directly, while SMODS defines prototypes that are used to define Jokers. Therefore, in vanilla, the object referring to itself with self is the Joker, while in SMODS it's a prototype. The Joker would be the card, usually

[teal sky]

That feels unnecessary

[novel heron]

find the periods: ……………………...……………………………………

[normal hollow]

…

[hard plank]

hi corobo

[gilded vortex]

"okay you reject my last 7 PRs, but here am I again trying to explain to you why you should add my Trojan Horse to SMODS…"

[teal sky]

Meowwww

[gilded vortex]

How so?

[gilded vortex]

It's not hard

[teal sky]

It's just longer to type entirely than three full stops

[gilded vortex]

If you select the text, each ellipsis is selected in its entirety, and they have a larger box

[teal sky]

And harder to memorize

[gilded vortex]

But three full stops consumes 50% more characters AFAIK

You'd expect it to consume three times as many

[novel heron]

[teal sky]

Most platforms autocorrect one to the other already

For exactly that reason

[gilded vortex]

but at least on Twitter each ellipsis consumed 2 characters

[umbral pilot]

English is hard

[gilded vortex]

which platforms are those

[umbral pilot]

no worries

[west hill]

how does this beautiful creature look so far?

[umbral pilot]

pronunciation is hard for me and I'm a native speaker

the - made sense imho

[hard plank]

@normal hollow how do i force joker displays to be off in code

[gilded vortex]

Interesting

[teal sky]

Pretty sure android does
And windows as well depending on the app

[gilded vortex]

The bottom feels a bit too dark but it might look better when it's finished

Also is that Ortalab's Bull

[hard plank]

without removing them,

[void marten]

I looked through every configuration and can’t figure it out

[novel heron]

unicode balatro mod when?

joker for every character

[west hill]

it might be

[gilded vortex]

I don't think I've seen that on Windows

[gilded vortex]

There was Emojiokers once

[hard plank]

™

[dense egret]

thx, i was asking why you need to put these things in function(...), you just say the func on what will you be working on (hope im right)

[normal hollow]

hook card:joker_display_toggle()

[novel heron]

my preprocessors will convert everything to the right punctuation anyway, be it latex or mdx or whatever

[hard plank]

doesn't that turn it off and on

[gilded vortex]

It didn't convert to LaTeX

[novel heron]

see this whole time you could've written that PR

[fallen hedge]

what do you mean by broken

[normal hollow]

it hides it so you need to hide it and then hook that so it can't be shown
unless you need them to not be created at all

[gilded vortex]

I beget sustenance

[teal sky]

I'm pretty sure windows invented it
Alongside stuff like replacing "fi" with "fi"

[gilded vortex]

aka I haven't eaten since lunch

[normal hollow]

really good

[novel heron]

and i could've done something productive as well dannnngg

mahlzeit

[umbral pilot]

latex hell yeah

[gilded vortex]

also it's almost midnight

[gilded vortex]

but if I mispronounce it people will look at me like I'm stupid

[umbral pilot]

latex is fun. you should stay try typst

[umbral pilot]

literally no one

[fallen hedge]

oh yeah the jokers are meant to be really broken, the whole mod is just a worse version of cryptid

[umbral pilot]

you're fine

[gilded vortex]

I was honestly confused

[novel heron]

i'm looking at victin stupid

[umbral pilot]

shh

[gilded vortex]

I've heard of it from a friend

But I haven't used it

[umbral pilot]

it's pretty great

but I prefer latex for anything I need to publish

[novel heron]

just checked out the website and it looks like another great tool destroyed by that one guy in a suit thinking "YO WE SHOULD DO IT SO EVERYONE CAN EDIT AT THE SAME TIME COLLABORATIVELY, LIKE IN A TEAM, PEOPLE ARE IN TEAMS, AMIRITE?

[gilded vortex]

@hard plank energy

[umbral pilot]

it's a really good use case for collaborative editing

it would've been nice when I was working on a paper I helped publish

[novel heron]

true but so many tools got sidetracked by focusing on just that 😭

[gilded vortex]

insert joke about Athenian democracy here

[novel heron]

i'm just waiting on obsidian not fixing any of their bugs and "iNvEnTiNg A nEw WaY tO wOrK"

[gilded vortex]

or idk cavepeople sitting around a fire and a wheel

[novel heron]

but apart from that, i'll check it out, thanks @umbral pilot

[hard plank]

hi

:3

[umbral pilot]

ai stuff bothers me

[hard plank]

someone add latex renderer in balatro pls

[gilded vortex]

ai koyori

[umbral pilot]

like, enough with the ai shit features

[gilded vortex]

@hard plank are ya ai, koyori?

[novel heron]

the moment my banking app ships an ai feature i will just move to the countryside and be off the grid forever

it already does a monthly recap like it's fucking spotify

[gilded vortex]

Hold on I just finished my PR to the countryside github of AI grass, now I can do that SMODS PR

[teal sky]

Hii

[hard plank]

:2

:1

[gilded vortex]

:0

[umbral pilot]

hopefully being in Europe means that's illegal but who knows anymore

[hard plank]

:3

[gilded vortex]

that's right it's illegal to move to the countryside and be off-the-grid in Europe

[teal sky]

Ill add it when i add fields to balatro

[gilded vortex]

now tell me where you are so you won't be fined

[gilded vortex]

like the weak nuclear force or like wheat

or like algebraic fields

[umbral pilot]

north

[teal sky]

The algebraic structure

Called a field

[fallen hedge]

while im here, heres another one i did

[gilded vortex]

Un*ted K*ngdom?

[umbral pilot]

ew

[novel heron]

no being in europe means it will happen, but just way later, so that every non international business that could've adapted to the market is gigafucked now and usa capitalism reigns supreme while we get all our personal data drained out of us while trump is in his fourth term

i'm a doomer maybe

[umbral pilot]

a little bit but you know

I can't blame you

[gilded vortex]

AI trump

[teal sky]

See here for more information

[umbral pilot]

north

[gilded vortex]

nordic?

[gilded vortex]

you didn't read what I said 😭

[umbral pilot]

that's about as far north as you can get in Europe

[gilded vortex]

I mean

[novel heron]

bro is santa claus

[umbral pilot]

yes

[gilded vortex]

I think some non-Nordic territories are a bit further north but it's hard to tell

[teal sky]

Some people use "algebraic field" wrong i had to be sure

[novel heron]

okay folks now please stop being funny and engaging

[gilded vortex]

what do they use it for

[umbral pilot]

probably

Ireland

[gentle quarry]

im irish

[hard plank]

hi

[gilded vortex]

Stop being so smart and pretty

[teal sky]

Algebraic number fields

[gentle quarry]

hi

[gentle quarry]

rizz?

[gilded vortex]

Isn't that just a specific subset of fields?

[umbral pilot]

Irish rizz

[gilded vortex]

Irizzh

[fallen hedge]

shit i made a card that was meant to give X negative 9 thousand mult as a joke
i forgot about wraparound so if you have 2 of them at the same time

[teal sky]

Well
Yeah

Ive also heard it confused with a vector space

[gentle quarry]

whats an edition

is that like negative or stuff

[novel heron]

y

e

s

[gentle quarry]

ok

[umbral pilot]

Nordic horndic

[gilded vortex]

As a subset of fields, it's narrower, but it's sufficiently close. I don't expect people to know about algebraic fields to be confused unless they're in a subculture that cares specifically about that subset.

Vector spaces are defined over fields, and I suppose vector fields are a class of functions, so maybe a physicist or engineer would be confused

[gilded vortex]

French fresh

[gentle quarry]

if i make a seal does that go in the same file as the jokers

[umbral pilot]

Irish birish

[hard plank]

oi

[gilded vortex]

olá

[teal sky]

I mean a vector field is just a vector-valued map

Tho the most common response is usually just "a what"

[gilded vortex]

The usual image is of a map from a multidimensional vector space to itself

[umbral pilot]

moikka

[novel heron]

YO wait, balatro actually needs hitman series mod

like yesterday

[gilded vortex]

Because people don't call real functions vector fields

[solar sandal]

how did you change the game font?

[gilded vortex]

even though they map the reals to the reals

[hard plank]

#1248865517112918016

[teal sky]

Group-theoretically they are

[gilded vortex]

Luckily for you I invented the time travel mod the day before yesterday

[solar sandal]

ok thanks

[gilded vortex]

But people don't call it that

[teal sky]

Eh
Depends on the circle you're in

[novel heron]

where is @swift matrix btw :((((

[gilded vortex]

asking the important questions

[novel heron]

srsly he was here every day

i miss him

[slow frost]

ggs

[hard plank]

ortalab

[mossy wyvern]

The multiplayer mod work on lan without internet acces?

[gentle quarry]

guys what should noker do

[fallen hedge]

takes away 4 mult

[grand shadow]

Stare

[grand shadow]

Yes

Perfect

And give 100 mult after taking 40 away

So play 10 hands to get 100

[dense egret]

xd?

[gentle quarry]

good idea thank guys

[hard plank]

@dreamy abyss hello

[dreamy abyss]

REAL

[hard plank]

5 new showdowns

[dreamy abyss]

when im able to i will draw the sillies

[gentle quarry]

is this good wordin

[teal sky]

"After 10 hands" is probably clearer

[vernal hare]

yeah

[graceful flame]

my proudest creation

[gray cove]

Are you sure ?

[slim hull]

i think they should add workshop

[dense egret]

what

like tmod?

[dense egret]

what if i trigger him like 40 times in a wor?

row*

[gentle quarry]

what

[slim hull]

uhh lemme find refrence

[gentle quarry]

then 4000 mult

if you find a way to trigger him 40 times

[ornate bay]

i might be being a bit silly here but i put the mod (undertale) into the mods folder and when i play the game it comes up witha huge error about something like nil or something

[slim hull]

workshop with alot of mods

[gentle quarry]

what is the crash message, like does it say "blah blah blah nil around line 39 blah blah"

[ornate bay]

lemme look

[dense egret]

i say tmodloader, for terraria, but yeah i get the idea

[gentle quarry]

i have a joker idea

[gentle quarry]

did u make the mod or download it

[ornate bay]

download

[graceful flame]

guys is this worth it (im on ante 6 with 6x mult on tutor joker)

[gentle quarry]

then idk

[gentle quarry]

i think x6 is better than +80

[ornate bay]

i got it from this google drive on twitter https://x.com/_VioMarks_/status/1905319979945243103

{✦} VIO IS EXCITED FOR JUNE 4TH {✦} (@_VioMarks_)

Play it NOW

https://t.co/wmxdylEgHg

X · Mar 27, 2025, 6:04 PM

idk like anyhting about modding but before i installed it the mods tab did come up

[gentle quarry]

weird

check if everything is in the folder

there is required to be main.lua, anything.json, assets, and something else

[ornate bay]

is this right?

[graceful flame]

programmer got something in the code wrong

not your fault

[gray cove]

Me when plasma deck

[graceful flame]

or i guess

your fault depends

[ornate bay]

its worked for other people tho i found it on a yt video

[graceful flame]

playing green deck sobs

[graceful flame]

I FOUND HIM

[graceful flame]

hm

[graceful flame]

btw is he better than gros michel

cause like i have gros michel as my most useless joker rn

[ornate bay]

gonna try smth will update

[graceful flame]

IT WAS WORTH IT

[gray cove]

Are you sure?

[graceful flame]

thank you joker invincible

[gentle quarry]

new joker just dropped

[dense egret]

where's the rush?

[gentle quarry]

E

[novel heron]

where did it drop

pick it up

or did it break?

[ornate bay]

i downlaoded mod manager and it says its there

[novel heron]

[stark shale]

E is a sideway M if you think about it

[gentle quarry]

E is a sideways m

lowercase m

[gray cove]

I hate how its unsymmetrical

[gentle quarry]

well neither is the E in the Joker text on a joker

[dense egret]

asimetrical?

[gray cove]

NOW I CANT UNSEE IT

[gentle quarry]

haha

[novel heron]

every e has that

[dense egret]

i dont see it

[gray cove]

I wanna kms

[novel heron]

like in basically every font

E

[gentle quarry]

ruined bros balatro experience

[graceful flame]

rate the build

[dense egret]

€

[graceful flame]

tutor joker has x7.5 btw

[novel heron]

5/5

[dense egret]

should be 4.5/5

[dense egret]

it should i said

[novel heron]

yeah but you are wrong

and i am right

[gentle quarry]

oh i get it because its half joker

[novel heron]

oh okay that's funny actually sorry

please explain your jokes in the future

[dense egret]

i hope i could

ngl i dont speak very well in english

youre good

[novel heron]

i was joking

please don't

i'm just dumb dumb

[dense egret]

dumb²

how i

e

[novel heron]

i

o

u

?

[dense egret]

idk how to sticker --> img
(whatsapp)

now i have meme, memes of cats

[gentle quarry]

mr whiskers no

what did he do

[gentle quarry]

oh

felon

whats that yellow color

what would i type when coding to make it that

[dense egret]

c

[stark shale]

{c;attention}?

[dense egret]

i think

[dense egret]

mb

[stark shale]

{c:attention}

[gentle quarry]

thx

[dense egret]

i was thinking in "caution"

[stark shale]

i aint no coder

[spark moth]

{C:attention} whatever you want to be that colour{}

as far as I'm aware

[gentle quarry]

what about spade and heart

[normal hollow]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Text-Styling

[spark moth]

That's a good question

[granite granite]

Hey, does anyone know if I can put custom skins on Android?

[vernal hare]

rule 4

we can’t tell you

[granite granite]

😩

Sorry

[vernal hare]

no problem

[dense egret]

<i was wasting time and discovered that you can speak orange>

[gloomy mural]

+ bro

[dense egret]

bad for me, i cant see that

[gentle quarry]

would anyone like to volunteer (labor) to make code for me cuz im too lazy

the fact that your alive is a miracle
just stay alive, that would be enough

[bitter tiger]

lazy's not a good excuse, you just gotta do it

[gentle quarry]

but im lazy

i no no wanna

can chatgpt do it

[bitter tiger]

that's what i tried, but you need to feed it too much data to make it code mods for you

[gentle quarry]

can i just give it the entirety of this

and the rest of the smods wiki

[bitter tiger]

it knows lua script, but doesn't know balatro's logic

[gentle quarry]

i remember that night i just might regret that night for the rest of my days

when you said hi i forgot my dang name

[bitter tiger]

that won't be enough. do you even know how these ai programs do what you say in the first place?

[normal hollow]

ive seen people try
it didnt come out good

[gentle quarry]

oh

[gentle quarry]

they use ai

[bitter tiger]

THEY DON'T HAVE AI BEFORE IT BECAME A COMMON THING

[gentle quarry]

handsome boy does he know it peach fuzz and he cant even grow it

[gentle quarry]

so what do they use

[bitter tiger]

pure knowledge

[gentle quarry]

alexander is penniless

[bitter tiger]

they feed millions of data to it

[gentle quarry]

and then it searches for the data and then it gives answer

based on its data

[bitter tiger]

those image generators only work because some guy had to feed several images to it

[gentle quarry]

dang

to the groom

to the bride

from your sister

who is always by your side

to your union

and the hope that you provide

may you always

be satisfied

[bitter tiger]

anyways, thinking about what abilities do i give to the last three commons

[gentle quarry]

CREAM FERRET

anyway which ones need abilities

[bitter tiger]

cream (not ferret), cloud and dozer

[gentle quarry]

cream:

oops

disregard that message

cream: 1 in 2 chance to give +5 mult, 1 in 2 chance to give -10 chips
cloud: retriggers the last scored card (so reverse chad)
dozer: disable a random common every blind, +12 mult

[bitter tiger]

ooo, got a better idea for cream

[vernal hare]

can you add my goat stormbringer

[bold mural]

does anybody know a mod that adds new suits?

[normal hollow]

six suits

[bold mural]

tyty

[bitter tiger]

+32 mult, -4 mult per hand played, +2 mult per heart card scored

get it? because she's old, lol

[gray cove]

@west wolf please fix this bullshit bro

[west wolf]

what bullshit

[gray cove]

Justice for teto

[west wolf]

are those the x1 sprites

[gray cove]

Yes

[west wolf]

please just play my mod with pixel smoothing on

😭

[gray cove]

I was just checking the files

[west wolf]

many of my earlier sprites are made with 2x in mind

[gray cove]

🤓owww

[west wolf]

that's why they look funky here

[west wolf]

ive stopped doing this

as it is bad practice

i will not be remaking the old sprites tho

[bitter tiger]

relic of the past

[gray cove]

She looked like she got hit by a 2011 Honda

Civic

[west wolf]

yeah

the only ones im still doing in 2x are the legendaries

to keep artstyle consistency

[gray cove]

he Just lazy

[harsh glacier]

sin of god

[west wolf]

if you want new jokers then me not remaking the old ones is better for both of us

[gray cove]

Based

[west wolf]

i am cooking up some really cool jokers bte

[gray cove]

Can i get a handshake before you become famous

[west wolf]

hell yeah 🤝

[gray cove]

🤝

MY HAND SMELLS GARB

[west wolf]

Heaven my goat

[gray cove]

YEAHHHHHHHH

Sorry i had to play along

[west wolf]

why the heart my goat is literally escaping help me get it back in the fence

[gray cove]

How about i remake the sprite for teto

If you like it

Replace it

[west wolf]

oh yea sure fix up the 1x if you'd like

[gray cove]

If you don’t

I’ll track your ip adress

[west wolf]

wait do you want to make new art for it or

[gray cove]

Yeppieee

[west wolf]

just fix it up

[gray cove]

No i’ll make the new art

[west wolf]

ohh that's sick, cook my man

[gray cove]

HONESTLY IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT HERE AND I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

[west wolf]

let me dm you the background

[dense egret]

stop hyperventilating

[vernal hare]

i have an idea

‘arc cards’

1 in 3 chance to copy the card adjacent to it

or no

[dense egret]

arc is a lot of things, explain yourself

[vernal hare]

that’s too weak

[gray cove]

Sorry i’m asthmatic

[vernal hare]

1 in 3 chance to copy the card next to it thrice

[vernal hare]

like electricity arc

[dense egret]

-# then why you dont talk like this?

[dense egret]

oh i get it

[gray cove]

-# i mean i can

[vernal hare]

just what balatro needed. more retriggers

[dense egret]

what about "+mult for every other arc card"?

[vernal hare]

meh

[dense egret]

ok i will-

[vernal hare]

do it then

just make it a diff name pls

[dense egret]

nah men, all on you

i wont steal art

[jaunty galleon]

acksually that was one of my ideas original enhancement od not steal!!!

grrrr

[gusty anchor]

uhhh is there something im not understanding
i'm playing cryptid and i got the sticky hand voucher (+1 card selection limit)

but when i select more than 5 cards the game refuses to let me play or discard the hand

[dense egret]

upgrade

update*

[chrome condor]

Hey so theorhetically if I wanted to rename every joker in the base game and change their descriptions how would one go about that after downloading steammodded and lovely

[gusty anchor]

im on the latest version
i just downl;oaded the mod today

[dense egret]

cryptid
talisman
steamoded

[gusty anchor]

the mod and everything else required to mod balatro*

[gusty anchor]

all three

lemme check again

[dense egret]

you have almanac?

[gusty anchor]

is that all right?

[dense egret]

uh, yes, but idk why

the other day some dude have the same problem

[gusty anchor]

is that a mod?

[dense egret]

@gusty anchor no one could fix this problem for now

idk what causes it

[shell jacinth]

Hi im new to modding. If I want to use a Pokémon overhaul mod that adds new jokers. But only want the Pokémon visual overhaul and still want to get achievements, is that possible?

[dense egret]

yep

[dense egret]

only if the mod have a setting with "disable jokers"

[shell jacinth]

Im talking about this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/balatro/mods/58?tab=description

How do I know if the mod got that?

[dense egret]

download it, open balatro, go to mods>pokermon>settings

that mod should have it, but i dont play pokermon xd

[gusty anchor]

great!!
not sure if it helps, but i also noticed the game wouldnt give me the achievment for using the ://CRASH card

i wonder if it has to do with gamesets

[dense egret]

did you unlock everything?

[bitter tiger]

vsc is funny

[dense egret]

you have "experimental mod" activated?

[gusty anchor]

no
as in im using the ://CRASH card and im not getting an achievment when i go back into the game

[gusty anchor]

oh! i dont have that on, let me try that

[gusty anchor]

still not allowed

[dense egret]

[gusty anchor]

oh im a fucking idiot i have achievments off

[dense egret]

🧠 🧠 🧠 🧠 🧠

[gusty anchor]

okay i appear to have pinpointed a potential cause

do you know programming jargon

[dense egret]

no

[gusty anchor]

darn okay

[dense egret]

what is jargon

[gusty anchor]

just a fancy way of staying "stuff"

like "lingo"

[dense egret]

oh

idk lingo xd

english its not my main lenguage

[gusty anchor]

its ok lol

[dense egret]

but i get it

[gusty anchor]

do you know programming?

[dense egret]

i will say 4% maybe

[gusty anchor]

okay, i'll try to give a simpler explanation
the most recent version of Steamodded changed how play and discard limit are calculated and checked against

Steamodded now uses a different set of variables when deciding if the player should be allowed to play or discard the hand, meaning you're allowed to select more than 5 cards, but because these variables haven't been altered the game gets confused and prevents you from playing the hand

[normal hollow]

i dont think it "gets confused" honestly, I think this is a more intuitive change

or at least I like it because I have cards that increase selection size for consumables but not for play/discard

[gusty anchor]

ohhhhh yeah i agree it's a cool change

[normal hollow]

cryptid just needs to update i guess

[gusty anchor]

pretty much!

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[normal hollow]

hi haya

[gusty anchor]

hiya

[graceful flame]

made a sleeve all on my own! :]

you can now play the most busted joker on the deck it was properly made for

(200k chips on any hand btw)

[lilac atlas]

anyone know why this happens?

trying to run multiplayer 0.2.8 with cryptid

fixed

nvm

[bitter tiger]

made another common joker

[vernal hare]

new enhancement type

[vernal hare]

replace 'leaves' with 'self destructs' if you want to be more in line with vanilla language

[stark shale]

EVIL

[vernal hare]

this is easily my favorite one yet

[alpine frost]

Anyone pls help me

[vernal hare]

rule 4

no can do

[alpine frost]

Anyone pls help me

[vernal hare]

getting rid of the phone UI doesnt change anything

we know you are on phone

rule 4, we cannot assist you.

please stop asking.

[royal jackal]

hm, anyone know why certain mods might appear in name alone but seemingly have no actual effect? for example

I'm not too sure what the issue could be outside of maybe my version of steammoded or lovely injector being outdated

[dreamy abyss]

your lovely might be borked or outdated?

[alpine frost]

0.7.1

Right?

[royal jackal]

this is what it says in the top

[dreamy abyss]

update your dependencies