⚙・modding-general

[dreamy abyss]

exa i keep thinking your pfp is slither wing

[full edge]

what is your pfp, exa?

[wraith seal]

doing some heavy logic stuff to have descriptions expanding themselves and auto doing line drops, like

"Cost: 1 Card Scrap, 1 Vial of Rainbow,
1 Rainbow Element"

[blissful stag]

IVE GOT.. AN IDEA!!!

[harsh glacier]

hi tsu

jje

wow i mispelled that

[blissful stag]

hi

[wraith seal]

tsutje the modder of

[harsh glacier]

balatro

[wraith seal]

IT WORKS

[wanton rapids]

hm

[wraith seal]

mm need a bit more tweaking, but its definitely working now

[wraith seal]

explanation: im adding this, and its supposed to be in the same box as "Cost: 10 Skill Points"

but obviously, the more items there are, the more the box will expand horizontally, so im working on something that

will line drop everything depending on how many items in the table

as well as accounting for localization, number of the items and such

[stark shale]

#1368169102103019610 teleporter message

[wraith seal]

sob

added those little spacings

ok i think its good now

[brisk seal]

I yet again request, someone name a vanilla joker.

[wraith seal]

do u have smeared joker

[brisk seal]

nope

[wraith seal]

add it :3

[full edge]

after spending a whole day last week trying to set up my pool system properly, I managed to fix it in like 6 lines of code 🥲

[wraith seal]

oh yeah, did you add dagger too

[brisk seal]

nope

[wraith seal]

:3 theres ur joka

[wraith seal]

mood

[full edge]

I was trying all kinds of ways of extending joker so I didn't have to type anything by hand, but turns out I could just do a little loop before I make my pools that converts genres into pools

[wraith seal]

GOT IT

let me check if it expands properly when i add new items to the cost

nice

[harsh glacier]

nil nil !

[stark shale]

nil nil

[full edge]

Nil nil nil nil? Nil nil

[dreamy abyss]

nil nil, nil nil, nil nil, nil nil, nil nil, nil nil

[wraith seal]

i think i got it

[latent crescent]

null

[full edge]

55 BURGERS, 55 FRIES, 55 TACOS, 55 PIES, 55 COKES, 100 TATER TOTS, 100 PIZZAS, 100 TENDERS, 100 MEATBALLS, 100 COFFEES, 55 WINGS, 55 SHAKES, 55 PANCAKES, 55 PASTAS, 55 PEPPERS AND 155 TATERS

[wraith seal]

😭

aint paying forward for no one after seeing that

[toxic summit]

goated reference

[stark shale]

anyway

[full edge]

Do the ghosts, you know

[stark shale]

imagine a mod where balatro is based off ortalab instead of ortalab being based off balatro

[wraith seal]

it should be VERY convenient to add items to skill costs now

idk if this is dumb

[latent crescent]

init_localization in here? eh?

[wraith seal]

yeah that adds text_parsed or something to the added localization

if i dont have it then it crashes

[stark shale]

the peace

[wraith seal]

disturbing the peace

[latent crescent]

Reloading localization second time can be not good idea

[stark shale]

anyway

i have an ingenious idea

The Modifier
X5 Mult if the hand contains a modded hand

[wraith seal]

surprisingly enough i havent seen any crashes with it, so

:p

though its probably a bad idea, yeah

[harsh glacier]

balatro

[wraith seal]

i cant make sense of this to target only the added loc specifically though sob

[west hill]

Can’t you do the localisation stuff when you’re registering the items?

[wraith seal]

i dont have any braincells left after figuring out how to do the line drops and thingies

[wraith seal]

its not a fixed loc stuff, since it changes depending on what skill you hover on

and these things are removed/added depending on how many items are in item_cost
-# idk what to call them

[west hill]

Does it need to be added into the loc tables then if it’s built up dynamically from smaller parts?

[wraith seal]

loc tables?

[latent crescent]

It will not crash

But, some mods can rely on table.insert or smth

[stark shale]

[latent crescent]

So doubled descriptions theoretically can happen

[west hill]

Like why do you need to add it to G.localization.blablabla?

[wraith seal]

true

oh

to use this

[west hill]

Where’s this bit of code in relation to the bit before?

[wraith seal]

its right below all of the code

[west hill]

Then why don’t you just use the bit you’ve created directly instead of adding it to the table and then recalling it?

[latent crescent]

Wait wait wait

So for every description row you reload entire game's localization?

[wraith seal]

i will assume thats what init_localization() does, yeah, i will have to dig out parts of that function to use for my loc stuff only

[wraith seal]

uhh

dont i need to use localize though

[west hill]

I don’t think you need to do any localization stuff at all, just build the ui box manually

[wraith seal]

to replace #1#, #2#,... with the vars

[stark shale]

this seems very stupid

[wraith seal]

i agree

[stark shale]

then redo ye code

[west hill]

Why are you dynamically adding #1# instead of the actual value?

[stark shale]

time to balala

[plucky sorrel]

Balala yay

[latent crescent]

Balala

[wraith seal]

because even if i replace them with the vars, the colors would still not work, right?

[west hill]

-# I don’t know the entire structure of how this works, but this seems like an over engineered way of doing things that is probably pretty dumb

[latent crescent]

Well it depend how you are doing this

Instead of making a string, you can make a node

[west hill]

What’s the input to this function?

[wraith seal]

which function, localize or the one thats creating the ui?

[west hill]

The ui one

[wraith seal]

loc_tooltip contains the id of the skill, perk_info is the details of the skill
-# i could actually group them together, now that i think about it

[worn nest]

how easy is it to make a texture mod?

[wraith seal]

should be pretty easy with #1300851004186820690

[worn nest]

i kinda wanna take a crack at an outer wilds pack for all 4 suits

[latent crescent]

@west hill is this correct for "Remove all scored cards" effect?

[full edge]

oh, that'd be a great match for the planet texture pack for outer wilds

[latent crescent]

(besides missing true in end of event and mispelling)

[west hill]

No, do this instead

if context.destroying_card then
  —attention text bit here
  return{
    remove = true
  }
end

[latent crescent]

I want display this message only once

[stoic nova]

anyone know why when i run balatro deck creator it pops up with this error?

[west hill]

Uhhh lemme double check the pre destroy context name

[wraith seal]

whats with deck creator and the missing module

[full edge]

the deck creator is very out of date, iirc

[stoic nova]

i went to reposatory and downloaded that

and same error

[west hill]

Or have some sort of flag for when it’s been done or not

[brisk seal]

smeared and dagger

[stoic nova]

how can i get one that isnt

[wraith seal]

no more init_localization() now

[full edge]

checking the repo, it's 2 months since the last commit

[wraith seal]

i can definitely shorten it but i think i need to take a breakdsmal

[stoic nova]

my friend downloaded it from there and i worked

[stark shale]

i accdeintally restarted twice

oop

[brisk seal]

someone, name a vanilla joker

[latent crescent]

Madness

[west hill]

Alternatively, if you’re on latest commit you can use SMODS.destroy_cards in context after

[stoic nova]

we alive

[umbral pilot]

oil lamp

[wraith seal]

that aint a vanilla joker lovely sir

sob

[stark shale]

8 ball

[wraith seal]

8 BALL???

whats that

never heard of it before ❤️

[stark shale]

[latent crescent]

I like this more

[brisk seal]

madness is gonna be madness

[full edge]

wait so how did you fix it then?

oh, the we alive was asking if I was

[stoic nova]

?

ye

[worn nest]

anyone have a sprite/texture sheet of all standard deck cards?

[stoic nova]

have any idea how to make it work

[latent crescent]

In this case did I need to return smth as a result of calculate, if I'm just deleting cards, and adding a message? I guess not

[full edge]

idk man i'm also doing other things, haha. I checked the repo, and the module it ain't loading is from the same mod, so it might just be that loadorder is fucked in some way? I'm honestly just not sure

[wraith seal]

did you add riff raff

[brisk seal]

yes

[wraith seal]

how would luchador work 🤔 is it just disabling boss blind when destroyed

[stark shale]

no way

[brisk seal]

i added luchador

and it disables when sold

[plucky sorrel]

Ice Cream

[brisk seal]

already done

[latent crescent]

[plucky sorrel]

[stark shale]

egg

[stoic nova]

made it work

[plucky sorrel]

Popcorn

[latent crescent]

Looks like Axy is hungry

[plucky sorrel]

It is sweets hour

[worn nest]

anyone wanna vc and hang out?

[latent crescent]

No vc here

[stark shale]

#starving

[wraith seal]

ok what about mr bones

[brisk seal]

nope

not yet

[worn nest]

i know, i ment like dm, GC

[full edge]

what did you do?

[stark shale]

honk shoo

[wraith seal]

add invisible joker too :3

[stoic nova]

i clicked the enable background animations in the mod manger and it somehow worked

[stark shale]

Jolly Joker

[brisk seal]

already done

[brisk seal]

already done

[wraith seal]

jmdls

shoot the moon?

[brisk seal]

nope not yet

[wraith seal]

:3

[brisk seal]

and also i like said, name a vanilla joker

[wraith seal]

isnt shoot the moon a vanilla joker

[stark shale]

The Duo

[wraith seal]

oh wait

"a"

i see

i apologize

[full edge]

oh, that's sick, mathguy. I was playing around with an idea for a deck that swapped the roles of playing cards and jokers a while back, but blending jokers into the deck is way cooler

[brisk seal]

ty

[wraith seal]

mathguy always doing cool stuff istg

[brisk seal]

:)

[storm forum]

-# based.

[latent crescent]

Okay this one works good for me

First time ever using context btw

[brisk seal]

next, 8 ball

[marble forge]

mhm first shop already gave me a gameplan

speculo + hanging chad

[wraith seal]

please

[marble forge]

?

[marble forge]

what is going on brainstorm second shop aswell

[stark shale]

murder 1 hanging chad

[full edge]

Per card rarity makes me realize I need to brush up on my math skills, damn

[austere whale]

is that wormhole deck

cool

couldn't do ascendant stake on wormhole

[marble forge]

ye

[marble forge]

yes

[marble forge]

i am here now also i got a lucky global card aswell nafter a few code packs

[gray delta]

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

[marble forge]

just gotta hope the speculo and brainstorms make a few more brainstorms

what if i manage to get hiker i just realised

[marble forge]

take my word back right after i said that i made 2

[full edge]

Building up to a classic run of watching talisman's calc timer, I see

[stark shale]

[harsh glacier]

the average cryptid run ends when you take more than 10 seconds calculating a hand

[marble forge]

prob

[worn nest]

my shitty thumbnailing ideas for my outer wilds deck skin

[marble forge]

huh

can anyone explain this btw

[worn nest]

its just brain storming thumbnails for the actual card art- im not exactly good at it-

[grand geode]

hand base mult ^^1.04

[marble forge]

is that worth taking here

[stark shale]

glupo

[harsh glacier]

unless your base hand mult is big its not very useful

unless you like having unregistered hypercam 2 in the corner

[hard plank]

I'm cooked

[stark shale]

are you medium well

[hard plank]

congratulations

[dreamy abyss]

aiyoriok shimigimas

[marble forge]

okay hear me out

global lucky card

gets triggered a lot

• compound interest

[lone frost]

wha could this do?
-# gamer horn from shikanoko noko koshitan tan

[brisk seal]

8 ball and Egg

[marble forge]

call in a rental joker each round

[lone frost]

why a rental joker 😭

[marble forge]

to make it different

from other jokers that create jokers

so why not🙃

[lone frost]

nobody would buy it tbh

[marble forge]

true

[brisk seal]

horribel reason

*horrible

[harsh glacier]

nokotan would definitely do that

[stark shale]

chickn

[hard plank]

no...

[lone frost]

actually yeah

wait idea

[hard plank]

i was about to add something from shikanoko

[marble forge]

ehm its time to calculate by hand

[lone frost]

it creates a consumable called "deer cookies" that do smthing

[marble forge]

how much jokers i need to sell

[marble forge]

mhm

[full edge]

Joep, mijn jongen, sell most jokers before your computer's just slowly spending an hour calculating a score that's almost as high as it would've been after a second of calc time 😋

[marble forge]

mhm i dont feel like listening to fellow dutch advise

[harsh glacier]

2 cakes

fuck it im adding one as well

[hard plank]

I'm adding rice crackers

as food joker

[hard plank]

it's called deer crackers

[lone frost]

oh ok

im spanish so

[warm spire]

"Mont Tibetan Joker" (Common)
Purchase Price: 4$
Selling Price: 5$
When the played card is not your most frequently used card type, copy the leftmost hand card in the 5-card slot (including suit, version, enhancement, and wax seal).

[lone frost]

now what could the deer cracker do...

[marble forge]

hear me out buy and sell immidiantly

early game

[hard plank]

you know

[marble forge]

eat one of your cards like its a cracker and poop out 2 random cards

just a random idea

[hard plank]

this just came to my mind

but

when my mod releases

[lone frost]

ill take it

[marble forge]

wait really

wow

never thought i would be of any help in modding/idea thinking😭

[hard plank]

I'll probably put the music i made for it on Spotify

[lone frost]

that looks like ts

[hard plank]

ok so

[marble forge]

oh ye

[hard plank]

do i fucking need to rewatch ts

[marble forge]

well bye grim hello deer crackers

[hard plank]

I'm pretty sure it's stupid ass shit

[full edge]

is in_pool for jokers an smods feature?

[hard plank]

i think

[lone frost]

guys

[marble forge]

does the idol randomly pick a rank and suit or does it pick one of a card that is atleast in your deck

[marble forge]

wow

[brisk veldt]

Idol picks a card in your deck

[marble forge]

ok thx

time to copy iot

it

a thousand times

[hard plank]

you won't catch me doing art

[lone frost]

ik

im not an artist

that's literally the best i can do 😭

[gray delta]

aikoyori can you teach me how to art

[stark shale]

:egg]

[storm forum]

-# when we computing Pi with Balatro...

[brisk seal]

i did egg... it's in the video

[stark shale]

no i wanted to type

[brisk seal]

ah

well Shoot the Moon next

[stark shale]

triboulent

[brisk seal]

already done

[plush hound]

balatro

[full edge]

the hardest part of this weight system is just going to be transfering it to glue and making that properly compatible with Kino having similar code. Oops

[grand geode]

obelisk

[full edge]

Does anyone know if outside of JoyousSpring there's any other mods that add a per object weight?

[marble forge]

here we go its time

[hard plank]

i can't art

[west hill]

@hard plank how do your blind icon things work in the in game hud?

[hard plank]

did it break

it just adds to the text

it's jank as shit but that's the only way i could make it not ass right now

might do something about it today

[west hill]

No im just trying to add mod badges to blinds

[hard plank]

oh

uh

[west hill]

And that part seems to only be created once on game start

[hard plank]

i have a function called recalculateBlindUI

[stark shale]

smod

[hard plank]

that just recreates it

i don't know how efficient it is but it seems to still be lagging

i tried

[grand geode]

like during g.hud_blind or in collection

[marble forge]

after 1 round whit hiker +2000 chips

[stark shale]

bawawa

[west hill]

G.hud_blind

Collection was ezpz

So is blind select

[grand geode]

a lot of jank

[stark shale]

true

[west hill]

Hud blind seems mega jank though

[hard plank]

it's the same problem i had when i was adding it

it is mega jank

[west hill]

I don’t know why thunk made it this way rather than just recreating the box like everything else

[hard plank]

i believe performance reasons

[grand geode]

basically comes down to the hud update function in overrides.lua removing every child that's after the blind description lines count

[marble forge]

my last calculation was taking 24 sec

when am i doome

doomed

[storm forum]

You are doomed when [this](#⚙・modding-general message).

[hard plank]

idk you can look in my code for that function

[marble forge]

cryptid + morefluff mod using wormhole deck whit this seed GDNZFRIB is what i am doing

[west hill]

Yeah will do

[hard plank]

it sucks but it works

[stark shale]

[hard plank]

that's the third iteration of that code

-# also please look into the stupid SMODS.Font pr i would appreciate it ty

[full edge]

The moment your talisman starts showing calc times, you should sell jokers or change your build. Cryptid's design lures you into builds with millions of jokers and retriggers but the way the scoring scaling works means your calc time is almost never actually notably contributing to score.

[harsh glacier]

smods font becoming real

[marble forge]

i am doomed

boss blind

[harsh glacier]

the pin?

or the shackle?

[marble forge]

wait nvm i got 80k i can reroll for club suit

[harsh glacier]

oh clubs

[marble forge]

hold up let me look

last hand took 39 sec

[stark shale]

so uh

[warm spire]

ye

[stark shale]

who's gonna recreate the sans fight

[hard plank]

i don't play undertale

[full edge]

Hand me a skeleton and I'll beat it up for you

I'll add it to Kino once there's an Undertale movie

[grand geode]

sans? like the font?

[marble forge]

i take that back

200k

[grand geode]

why are you fighting a font

[stark shale]

is mr.bone sufficent

[west hill]

Maybe I should go through all the smods prs

[stark shale]

comic sans sucks

[marble forge]

The Club DX

i am playing flush six whit hearts

[full edge]

Is Aure still busy, or are they just less chatty here, lately?

[grand geode]

comic sans is one of the most blind friendly font

[stark shale]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/pull/712

[marble forge]

uhhhh

when does a pc explode

[west hill]

I think he’s just been busy

[marble forge]

last calculation was 66 sec

the fact that my mult does not even go higher then 2000

is it time to end the run

i am only at ante 8

ended at 150 sec

[hard plank]

yes

[harsh glacier]

just end it

[full edge]

I will make a mod that adds a big blinking notification to cryptid that says 'if your calc time is long you're just wasting your time it's not impacting your score in any notable way' so I can train people

[marble forge]

last casual cash out

before it end

[latent crescent]

• makes billion copie of jokers which retrigger everything 92646275 times
• game take enernity to calculate
• game became calculate screen watching simulator
• man it sucks

[marble forge]

thats what i am doing

[hard plank]

no fucking shit

[marble forge]

like 5 idols, 3 compound interest, 1 speculo i think like 50 brainstorm and like 300 hanging chad

[brisk seal]

The Duo and Obelisk next

[full edge]

Once I get this Kino and Glue stuff for individual object weights fixed I am going to continue Playsets again, and make one for Cryptid that removes anything that guides players towards having 20+ jokers or retriggering jokers, honestly, haha

[hard plank]

compound interest

[grand geode]

honestly i might take another shot at gachatro but god damn i don't want to do ui work

[marble forge]

its handy

compound interest

[full edge]

Gachatro?

[marble forge]

who does not want 400k

[stark shale]

gsacha

[marble forge]

3x48%

[grand geode]

something i concepted where you get everything from a gacha with hoyo rates

[full edge]

Every time I think I'm figuring out how UI actually works I'm quickly humbled by not knowing how UI works

[stark shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-jwuYbK-k

[grand geode]

(or arknights rates but i don't know how many rarities i want to divide jonkers into)

[full edge]

So you'll add a bunch of useless consumables and even just getting Joker requires me to hit 10 pity?

[grand geode]

Yes.

[hard plank]

i played pjsk

i suck at it

[full edge]

Pajama Sam...k?

[hard plank]

either that or my iPad is so old it lags hard

[stark shale]

pj mask

[grand geode]

3*s are tarots/planets
4*s are commons/uncommons
standard 5*s are the weak rares + chicot
limited 5*s are strong rares and legendaries

if i want to do it hyv styled

[dreamy abyss]

project sekai

[stark shale]

oh god

[hard plank]

there's miku in there tho so

[grand geode]

maybe arknights styled is better since more rarities to classify cards into

[stark shale]

true.....\

[full edge]

I feel like you're not adding gender in the equation there, Myst. Male presenting jokers shouldn't be 5 stars unless it happened accidentally

[grand geode]

HELP

but bp/bs yuri are limited 5 stars....

[hard plank]

yuri

[wraith seal]

did someone say gacha

[full edge]

I've only played ZZZ actively so my only reference for the hoyo gacha is that goon-appeal relates to rarity

[wraith seal]

thats true

[hard plank]

help why does the score have that specific e

[grand geode]

true

[dreamy abyss]

those who know

[grand geode]

but also if you ignore the gooning in zzz it's criminal that this shit is free

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭😭

[grand geode]

true

[hard plank]

fym free g

[stark shale]

whag

[harsh glacier]

i playa gacha game

[stark shale]

i play game

[full edge]

I really liked the game while I played it (I actually enjoyed the premise of tv mode), but end game gachas always end up a bit stale. I couldn't interact with the community at all, though, it wasn't my vibe at all

[wraith seal]

tv mode??

you enjoyed it???

[grand geode]

oh i don't interact with the community at all either (DO NOT GO ON THE ZZZ SUBREDDIT)

[full edge]

The premise more than the execution, hahaha

[wraith seal]

oh

[grand geode]

also i fucking loved tv mode

[stark shale]

tv mode are so fucking awesome

[grand geode]

and i hate bangboo exploration

[full edge]

I think it could've been something except that most of it was way too easy, and the ui was slow

[harsh glacier]

i can't play any hoyo gacha game because my pc sucks

i tried playing hsr once

my hard drive crashed

[grand geode]

rip

[wraith seal]

idk if it was changed but tv mode was absolutely tedious to play on a 20 fps phone

[stark shale]

my phone can handle zzz

[full edge]

But also, even the designs I didn't appreciate the sexualization of as much, I think work in the context of the game. ZZZ just has this awful split where it's community and marketing all treat the game like porn, and the game itself is just anime woman with slightly risque poses sometimes

[stark shale]

your phone are all suck

[wraith seal]

im sorry

[harsh glacier]

also istg hsr has cast a curse on that hard drive

it now constantly fucks up

ever since i installed it

[wraith seal]

but hey at least my pc can run zzz on 30 fps steadily

[stark shale]

zzz broke my charger

hoyo fucking sucks ass

[wraith seal]

sob

[jaunty galleon]

gachas are evil cursed programs. that's my two cents

[wraith seal]

i want to try arknights endfield

[grand geode]

the marketing on the more serious characters is so fucking good though, look at the recent character trailers/demos (NOT BURNICE)

[wraith seal]

one day

[stark shale]

im going back to the 1 game i only play

[wraith seal]

burnice is serious tf u mean myst

[full edge]

But ZZZ has made me wish that there was an actual market for a sort of macro-roguelikes. I like gacha mechanics for acquiring characters a lot, but not in the context of monetization. The idea of having a longer campaign to invest in and redoing them with new casts and having to actually figure builds out based on what you get is super fun. Same reason why people like playing Pokemon nuzlockes, or randomize games, after all

[harsh glacier]

i think vivian is a cool character

[full edge]

I'm not gonna agree

Disagree*

I definitely agree, hahahaha

[hard plank]

then someone goes "this chat is about balatro modding where is balatro modding"

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[grand geode]

honestly yeah, if you just treat gachas as a longterm rougelike and not a glorified slot machine it's much more enjoyable

[stark shale]

i would recommend Limbus Company

but im not a bum

[full edge]

I liked playing Jane a lot and never got those ads for her, and then my friends who are even less into anime than I am showed me 'this weird porn game ad' she was getting and oof

[stark shale]

play tic tac toe

[harsh glacier]

i am straying less and less from pjmoon the more fans constantly point out a pjmoon reference

[jaunty galleon]

longterm rougelike? you mean like an mmo?

[grand geode]

is an mmo a rougelike

[jaunty galleon]

roguelike means nothing anymore dw about it

[grand geode]

the only one I've played is hypixel skyblock and that shit is not a rougelike

[grand geode]

i am sorry, it will happen again

[full edge]

I think I'd enjoy ZZZ a lot if there gacha odds were better so that you actually have a chance of getting multiple S rank characters, and then just replay the campaign every once in a while. I don't much care for account progression or anything

[stark shale]

stray?

like

like

like

https://libraryofruina.wiki.gg/wiki/Stray_Dogs

[west hill]

An mmo is definitely not a roguelike

[jaunty galleon]

a lot of mmo dungeons are randomly generated and permadeath, making those mmos a roguelike, i guess, or something

[harsh glacier]

fucking die misew

[stark shale]

imsorry

[grand geode]

a small part of a game being a dungeon crawler doesn't make that game a roguelike

[west hill]

They don’t have permanent death for one

[grand geode]

deepwoken

/j

[stark shale]

fucking die

[grand geode]

hoyo odds 😭

[harsh glacier]

anyway guys i am adding more gacha game reference to my mod

development resumes tomorrow

[jaunty galleon]

i mean. we call balatro a roguelike but realistically it has circa. 0% rouge dna in it

[stark shale]

anyway

[grand geode]

but despite that i actually have most of the premium characters, apart from all stuns, burnice and hugo

[stark shale]

you should replace incantation with https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1374198317122326558

[grand geode]

thank you for adding Blue Archive into your mod (limbus reference

[stark shale]

myst

i am

[full edge]

what I'd call a 'macro roguelike' is often what fan-projects for existing games tend to be. Nuzlockes and perma-death randomized runs of games like Hollow Knight. Randomization and having to deal with the hand you're dealt, but not per se having the idea of a 'run', but actually something you'd sink 10-15 hours into. But I see why as a game concept that doesn't work at all, haha. That's too much content to maintain

[stark shale]

killing you

[jaunty galleon]

i play with no ui/qol mods like Lord Thunk intended

[stark shale]

thunk is gonna intergate one of those mod in the future

just you wait

[harsh glacier]

do you want your ears to explode when getting a naneinf

[grand geode]

what if i remove qol

[harsh glacier]

that organ is LOUD

jesus

[full edge]

i mean, that's what happens to genres, anyway 😛 metroidvanias aren't very metroid or vania in most cases either

[jaunty galleon]

i don't think thunk knows anything about us. we're the witch in the attic you feed but don't talk about

[stark shale]

nan e inf

[full edge]

I think roguelike also caught on in part just due to 'roguelike' feeling generic, rather than actually referencing the game rogue, like doomlikes did

[full edge]

thunk knows about a bunch of the QoL mods (and disagrees about which ones are QoL and which aren't)

[wraith seal]

should i add gardens to balatro

[grand geode]

you should play jokerdisplay

[full edge]

for my chao?

[grand geode]

technically already done but rip itay

[wraith seal]

why tf there r 9 million people playing a garden game at the same time

[jaunty galleon]

yeah but at least most metroidvanias follow the basic loop of exploring a sprawling map with is progressively unlocked by new abilities. roguelikes, uh, have randomness, sometimes

[harsh glacier]

i have removed jokerdisplay support from my mod

[wraith seal]

wuh, theres already a garden mod?

[harsh glacier]

i might readd it

[grand geode]

boo

bad mod

[harsh glacier]

myst

[west hill]

I think a lot of games call themselves a roguelike to jump on the bandwagon of them

[harsh glacier]

i am never playing lobcorp

goodbye.

[stark shale]

goodbye like

like

like

like

[grand geode]

goodbye like

[stark shale]

nothing there

hello

i love you

roffle gif

[full edge]

check the games labelled as metroidvania on steam or big review sites and see that that's not even true 😛 Also, that'd just be a metroidlike. There's not much vania there at all

[grand geode]

mindhiving aside

[harsh glacier]

guys you should play ghost trick

[stark shale]

#ghost trick

[latent crescent]

[grand geode]

you should play [game i'm not allowed to talk about because Egg is holding me at gunshot], it's an amazing metroidvania

[stark shale]

whag

[dreamy abyss]

you should play demoncrawl

[grand geode]

demoncrawl sucks i accidentally spent 50 hours on it to get an infinite

[harsh glacier]

balatro

[wanton rapids]

demoncrawl is alright

[jaunty galleon]

wow ok i think i'm just learning that video game marketing and journalism is a sham and words don't mean anything. you can't tell me arkham asylum is a metroidvania in 100% earnesty. no wonder ai is sucking up clicks from these sites, i could write a better article with a markov chain

[grand geode]

in all seriousness it's a good game ignoring the ai avatar shit

[wanton rapids]

oh they did what

[full edge]

Surgery on a grape, iirc

[stark shale]

you should play fps chess

[jaunty galleon]

TRUE

[grand geode]

surgery like rhythm doctor

[wraith seal]

fps chess is fun

[jaunty galleon]

bishop is GOATed and rook mains can cry about it

[stark shale]

also

havent played fps chess in a long time

at bepis

fight me

[wraith seal]

nuh

gonna play mc with my friends tonight :3

[harsh glacier]

bepisa

bepis

work on bsr

[wraith seal]

whats bsr

never heard of it

[wanton rapids]

how would i make an effect that retriggers "on discard" effects? specifically for purple seal

[harsh glacier]

im calling out to you like the green goblin mask

[full edge]

Watching exa's latest video and I'm honestly starting to wonder how people follow what goes on in Cryptid videos

[jaunty galleon]

shotgun/grenade/elytra is an insane kit

[wraith seal]

there are people who only play cryptid

for some reason

[full edge]

Even then, it's so hard to follow even if you know what the cards do, haha. I have no clue what any build is because there's always like 40 negative jokers that just do things

[stark shale]

cryptid is overrated nowaday

[grand geode]

you don't, most people watch for the big number goes bigger

[wraith seal]

play joyousspring

[west hill]

Cryptid was just quick to get out there

[stark shale]

im not gonna play joysuspring

[grand geode]

that's why i love alienrock's balala videos, they show what the cards do when they're seen/obtained

[west hill]

So now when people search for mods it’s the first thing that they find

[harsh glacier]

die

[jaunty galleon]

context.discard triggers on each individual card discarded (unlike context.hand_drawn), just check if context.other_card is the card you're looking for and then do the effect if so

[wraith seal]

does anyone here play umvc3

[jaunty galleon]

oh you said retriggers

oops!

[harsh glacier]

Nope!

[jaunty galleon]

wow i really should re-read things huh

[stark shale]

reading

whats that

[wanton rapids]

specifically the joker would just be "retrigger on discard effects twice"

or 2 times because misprintize

[latent crescent]

98% spotted

[wraith seal]

i might be wrong but you can define what context it should retrigger specifically, right?

[dreamy abyss]

play finity

[stark shale]

every fandom are destined to become illiterate

[west hill]

Yeah you can do that

[jaunty galleon]

i'm just literate and sloppy there's a difference

[stark shale]

[wanton rapids]

oh right i can use retrigger joker

still doesn't fix the purple seal issue (or i suppose enhancements/editions)

[full edge]

Is Purple Seal's effect not hard coded in? Or am I misremembering?

[gray delta]

🙏 please

i need the Knowledge

[grand geode]

the amount of people who don't realize The Psychic, The Eye and The Mouth's effects until they've played a hand is astounding

[wanton rapids]

i could hook calculate seal i suppose

[harsh glacier]

guys is this good uncommon

[jaunty galleon]

"No repeat hand types this round" is pretty confusing when you first see it tbf

[grand geode]

in like DNA runs I mean

[jaunty galleon]

oh

balatro is played pretty quickly all things considered, without high contrast i would constantly not play flushes lol. nevermind reading boss blinds

[normal hollow]

that's why it warns you lol

[brisk veldt]

It's interesting, it's similar to Oops but like less consistant but with higher payoff
I like it

[hard plank]

oops

[stark shale]

seed

[hard plank]

i

i made it so that joker displays don't show up at all in the challenge i think

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[stark shale]

haya

[harsh glacier]

possible effects with vanilla jokers

• cavendish is now very cancerous
• space joker will now always level up your hand
• fuck your glass cards

[brisk veldt]

lucky cards make you rich

[stark shale]

[deft harbor]

“60% of the time, it works every time.”

[harsh glacier]

the 1 in 5 chance happens before the probability change

[hard plank]

1 in 5 to guarantee that all probability hits

[hard plank]

what if you have multiple

[harsh glacier]

there is no reason to 😭

the others just do nothing

[stark shale]

it funny

[latent crescent]

In one chat down people was confused by this check. Let's see what happens here

[normal hollow]

is it needed?

isn't it always nil or boolean?

[harsh glacier]

again why the not not

[hard plank]

cast to boolean 😭

[latent crescent]

Aiko got it

Is this not obvious?

[harsh glacier]

i don't even think the cast to boolean is needed here though

the last statement on this list results in a boolean regardless

😭

[brisk veldt]

return bool == true

[latent crescent]

Looks like you don't know how and works

[brisk veldt]

and is whacky in Lua

[latent crescent]

It works just like && in other languages

[jaunty galleon]

my favourite part of this is return not not (

[stark shale]

yandev ass coding

[latent crescent]

It is not. But this one - maybe

[jaunty galleon]

this is what talisman looks like on the inside

[hard plank]

gtnh type programming

[stark shale]

end

[harsh glacier]

though like???? that would still result in a boolean

[full edge]

oh hey N!

[harsh glacier]

you would only need to cast if the returned value is never a boolean

[full edge]

i'm currently stealing your code 👋 might have questions about my thievery in a sec, haha

[latent crescent]

No. In all languages && returns first falsey or last operand

[stark shale]

you woudnt download a code

[latent crescent]

It doesn't convert anything to boolean

Same for lua

[normal hollow]

but do you need to check the difference between false and nil?

if it's falsey then it's nil

[latent crescent]

Not really. But it's good to have some consistency. You can expect that function can_execute returns boolean, isn't it?

[jaunty galleon]

how to mod balatro:
step one: open vanillaremade
step two: ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+h
step three: game crashes
step four: ???
step 5: repeat steps 2-4 until your mod is done

[normal hollow]

i guess

[latent crescent]

You're not seen my function for selling/buying

I can show it

It's actually really complicated

[full edge]

I'm way past looking at vanillaremade, I'm just remaking joyousspring but worse, tbh

[jaunty galleon]

this is why you have to code like a cryptid dev, then nobody can steal your code because nobody can read it

[full edge]

@normal hollow for your weighted pools code, is there a reason you check in_pool twice? I'm not sure how the pool_opts end up working yet, so I think it might have something to do with that, haha

[livid meadow]

i genuinely had this yesterday
the code for the blueprint description from vanilla remade crashed my game in the collection 💀

[harsh glacier]

sob emoji

[steel patio]

1: open vanillaremade
2: game crashes
3: peek at other mods
4: game crashes
5: look at vanilla source code
6: game cra

[jaunty galleon]

Oops! Oops! Oops! Oops! Oops! Oops! Oo

[stark shale]

oops! the game crashed

[full bison]

tryna decide which one to use
which one

[stark shale]

this is why you should get #1370113335659593898

[normal hollow]

i copied it from the vanilla/smods code :3
i will check to see if it's something i added

[hard plank]

i can read it

[harsh glacier]

btw guys is this also good uncommon

[hard plank]

but no one can read my code

[stark shale]

are you gonna do vice versa

[hard plank]

it's like encrypted

i can't even read it

[latent crescent]

What if i'll try?

[full edge]

Ah, that also makes sense. I should check out the source as well, haha

[hard plank]

I'm adding brainrot to balatro

[latent crescent]

Just to reminder I'm JS dev

[hard plank]

it's not obfuscated but just a bunch of bs

[harsh glacier]

why would you do that

[stark shale]

im gonna read aikoyori code as someone without coding expererince

[hard plank]

oh sorry

you can read it

[harsh glacier]

i hate how my first experience with programming is a js like language

this is why my code sucks

[livid meadow]

nah its more

1. look at smods wiki
2. look at vanilla remade
3. copy paste
4. crash
5. look at other mods
6. doesnt work
7. change
8. crash
9. ask for help
10. crash randomly stops happening

[full edge]

I think I've got it working, so that's good, I'll just have to figure out how generic I can make this

[hard plank]

I'm waiting for bepis to move in

[normal hollow]

yeah im reading it and I have no idea what the second check does

[wanton rapids]

okay i think i've got retrigger seal on discard working

[steel patio]

so real actually

[full edge]

Just blame other mods

[wanton rapids]

except it hardcrashes when i apply the seal

[full edge]

I'll test it with it in and commented out and report back hahaha

[latent crescent]

After 5 years ofr js coding: well my code still sucks, but at least it's working fine

[livid meadow]

i think its cool but might need playtesting to check if its balanced cos i cant tell

[livid meadow]

will do

im blaming your mod from now on

[full edge]

❤️

[hard plank]

time for mine crazy

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1430740/Mine_Crazy_The_Korean_Grinder/

Steam

Mine Crazy: The Korean Grinder

This is the essence of Korean grinder MMO. This game strongly shows the art of "Grinder" game.
This game has the Superficial Slogan: "Mine Crazy!" And that's mindless, useless, meaningless slogan.
And Ta-da, I'll show you the true Korean grinder.
In game, you'll mine rocks, earn money, and reinforce your pickaxe with that money. Reinforcing…

Price

$1.99

▶ Play video

[stark shale]

this is readinh

able

[hard plank]

i wanted to say Minecraft

[full edge]

Every time Exa's video has a crash, it shows Kino as the cause, so I'm available as scapegoat

[harsh glacier]

ice

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[full edge]

P/haya

[hard plank]

why does it do that

[stark shale]

kaka

i mena

haya

hello

[normal hollow]

r/haya

[stark shale]

papaya

[normal hollow]

official haya subreddit

[latent crescent]

balala

[stark shale]

papuryus

[full edge]

It's due to me not doing nil checks for every possible parameter, so mods that change how certain contexts work always crash on a Kino joker

My code assumed that in context.after, there would always be a full_hand or scoring_hand table, but when other mods are in play that's no longer true, haha

[livid meadow]

ouchies
however i will continue to blame you or talisman for my issues (i accidentally had that installed and i think it wasted a lot of my time)

[normal hollow]

what the hell

[hard plank]

one comment said "Great Value Minecraft Balatro"

[livid meadow]

holy minebalala

[full edge]

I think I saw Cryptid is adding a new handtype that can make it so no context will be guaranteed to have a table for the hand, and it scares me

[stark shale]

most unstable mod ever? asked to leave the modding scene?

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

i think the hand is empty

also they added demicolon

force trigger is real

[harsh glacier]

this is your problem mostly

[hard plank]

stop redeeming then vouchers

[harsh glacier]

this guy is in antimatter

[hard plank]

ok this isn't that one mod

[stark shale]

this is a case for #1367231163025854544

soam ping john prism at this instant

spam*

[normal hollow]

can't they just do the sane thing and add an empty table

[hard plank]

who is John Shenanigans

[stark shale]

soujaboy

souijaboy

[full edge]

Ideally, yeah

[hallow chasm]

hi chat

[tropic egret]

why is thinking about good crossmod so hard

[full edge]

But I can't figure out which mod it is, and cryptid's developed with a 'crossmod compatibility is other mods' own problem' mentality

[latent crescent]

No way m in chat

[hallow chasm]

just came here bc i never played any modded game ever so i just wanna know how i go about that, i watched a gameplay of the color mod and i need that

[hallow chasm]

frfr

[tropic egret]

more fluff strikes again

[stark shale]

#1214097296317227028

[hard plank]

😭😭😭

[west hill]

good old cryptid 🙃

[stark shale]

get it now

[tropic egret]

anyways go get lovely and steammodded

[stark shale]

more flffy

[hard plank]

eremel

[stark shale]

#Lovely

[west hill]

aiko

[stark shale]

#steamodded

[hard plank]

did you look into my stupid recalculate blind ui shenanigans

[west hill]

not yet

fixing some seal jank first

[hard plank]

ah

[stark shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfxnwHO134

[latent crescent]

Feels like this fox is carrying smods alone

[stark shale]

smosh

[hard plank]

British people

[latent crescent]

out-of-context british mention

[stark shale]

barry, 63

(he should be a joker

[harsh glacier]

we should add him to balatro

[stark shale]

jinx

[harsh glacier]

pushing you off a cliff

[stark shale]

cliff

like

like

lik

[tropic egret]

i mean, you could put all of smods on a really small chip. a hummingbird could carry smods, yet alone a fox

[stark shale]

just kidding

[full edge]

At least someone's currently working on refactoring the code to be friendlier, in that regard. But it really needs to change how it updates and the codebase is maintained. Even once the talisman thing would be solved, cryptid's doing enough strange things that it's still not great as far as compat goes

[latent crescent]

Well normally I need to work, but I don't want. Instead i'm bored

Is it time to finish scrollbar

[hard plank]

what the fuck

i want to make like a container

[tropic egret]

reading cryptid code makes me cry (lie)

[hard plank]

that clips things into the box

[normal hollow]

I finished adding koi koi to balatro so now I need to actually do the yugioh things

[wraith seal]

i agree, because you could get the entire skill tree in your shop due to the deck not respecting in_pool 🥀

[hard plank]

baba is you

[wraith seal]

-# tbf i overlooked that for some reason

[harsh glacier]

ain't that the point of doe though

[stark shale]

:true:

[wraith seal]

i will

[full edge]

Oof

[wraith seal]

make it so your computer crashes when you pick that deck

[stark shale]

acutally

having a 2nd skill tree will be funny

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wraith seal]

2nd skill tree?

#1279275441009459222

[full edge]

Is all of skill tree's buffs just funneled through a hidden joker?

[west hill]

that isn't something you overlooked, that's just their jank code

[hard plank]

i think my cmos battery ran out

[stark shale]

Duplicates of the Skill Tree can appear as a joker

[wraith seal]

yea

:3

[tropic egret]

haya paya i don't know what to add for crossmod

[full edge]

Ah, makes sense

[full edge]

Baya

[harsh glacier]

think of one

[wraith seal]

the strongest common joker in balala

[wraith seal]

true, true

[tropic egret]

your mod outscales everything in bountiful by like 12x

[hard plank]

COME ON

[wraith seal]

its not the first time i have had to dealt with cryptid fucking up my mod too sob

[stark shale]

you must ahead

[harsh glacier]

my mod fucking sucks wdym 😭

[gray delta]

im too lazy to make my mod cryptid compatible

[full edge]

What was the other case?

[wraith seal]

my mod sucks
- genuinely good mod

[tropic egret]

as in scoring ...

[wraith seal]

misprinted decks fucking up bsr's jokers horribly

[tropic egret]

but no your mod is very cool and epic

[wraith seal]

though the change hasnt been pushed yet

[harsh glacier]

bsr update?????

[stark shale]

[harsh glacier]

holy shit

[stark shale]

hoky shit

[wraith seal]

i am gatekeeping bsr updates

yall aint getting it

[hard plank]

my mod sucks

[stark shale]

im paying you5 limbus passes for it

[wraith seal]

😭

[hard plank]

I'm going to play Minecraft

fuck this shit

[latent crescent]

greg?

[hard plank]

I'm out

[tropic egret]

all of our mods suck (we are about to create a vacuum in the CERN)

[hard plank]

no

[stark shale]

my mod are good

(i dont have a mod)

[latent crescent]

(

[full edge]

Ah yeah, misprinterize is an issue for any mod that didn't take its existence into account. I luckily solved it by turning any misprinterization into Kino's own value changer. But honestly it might need to assume a value can't be changed as a default, rather than making it opt out

[stark shale]

i will now repost my consumable idea

[west hill]

okay time to go through these PRs I guess

[stark shale]

[harsh glacier]

it doesn't help that my own mod has its own misprintize esque function but a bit less terrible

photocopier does indeed multiply values of adjacent jokers by 2

though there is a blacklist for most common things cryptid blacklists already

[hard plank]

haya

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[tropic egret]

Bankruptcy

When in debt, destroy all Property cards and add their monetary value to XMult
(Currently X1)

is this anything

[full edge]

Tbh, any misprinterization ability is a nightmare already for Crossmod purposes, due to Balatro not being set up for it

[normal hollow]

my mod has misprintize-proof values even though ive never and i will never play it with cryptid

[harsh glacier]

stop putting everything in ability then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1122070934518517780.webp?size=48

hardcoded values ,,,,

[normal hollow]

card.inability

[hard plank]

n please don't

[full edge]

I might make a list of common compatibility issues cryptid has, and see if I can either get cryptid to improve its code, or start making PRs to it myself

[normal hollow]

:3

[knotty fable]

does anyone know what joker does this xD i want to avoide it next time

[harsh glacier]

i can tell this is from a cryptid run

end it already

[knotty fable]

xD it wont stop spamming this

[worn nest]

i just got a crazy card idea-

[full edge]

damn exa's modpack is half a gig

[hardy brook]

Why not make it?

[harsh glacier]

hi shinku

me and ari are adding more orta lab cross mod

[stark shale]

[nil value]

[hardy brook]

Cool

How the heck you not in the Ortalab server lol

[stark shale]

max server

[harsh glacier]

wait theres a server

[hardy brook]

fair on that could leave one you ain't using

[harsh glacier]

shit

[hardy brook]

yeah

[full edge]

name 1 mod that doesn't have their own discord server

[harsh glacier]

mine

[full edge]

it does, you're just not in it

[hardy brook]

Extreme Deck

Six Suit

Balatro Re;Shuffled

[wanton rapids]

morefluff

[hardy brook]

Jen's Almanac Because it no longer exists technically

[stark shale]

oopise i have read early ortalab and found bock and suskin

quite uncanny

[hardy brook]

oh gosh that old text

[harsh glacier]

i need link to ortalab discord

[hardy brook]

check your DM, I sent you the link to the post

lol

[stark shale]

cant seem to find ortalab server

[hardy brook]

I gotcha

[west hill]

my git skills are lacking 🤣

how do I merge a PR locally to test it without merging it to main 🤔

[harsh glacier]

git checkout ?

[normal hollow]

idk git but the github extension in vscode has a menu to checkout a pr

[wild rampart]

new spectral card Jonkle and made some changes to the seal where if you have the seal on other cards its not the same seal and different

[west hill]

the built in stuff?

[normal hollow]

nah the github one

[west hill]

oh there's a pull request extension

yeah this is exactly what I needed, thanks 👍

[harsh glacier]

@tall vortex you need to fucking see this

[stark shale]

Ortalab

https://youtu.be/aFrAx-GSwaA?si=sGtrK1zNW4WMpHoN look at this shite

[wild rampart]

hes beautiufl

[stark shale]

they just grabbed the file and slapped it into the video

how wonderful

[tall vortex]

DUDEEE

[wild rampart]

what

[jovial crystal]

What happened to that "J"...

[tall vortex]

that jonkler shit is badass

keep up the good work

[twilit nimbus]

i have no idea if this is the right channel but could anyone perhaps help me with the brainstorm mod? i just cannot seem to get it working

[brisk veldt]

What part are you struggling with? Is it installed and shows up in the mod menu?

[plush hound]

i almost send something in here

whoops

@storm forum @wind turtle @stark shale count your days

[twilit nimbus]

it does show up in my mod menu but it does not show the tab in the settings menu, theres no other issues with any of the other mods ive used, im using the newest smods, lovely and its the latest release from the github

[wild rampart]

Thank you

[wild rampart]

What J

[storm forum]

Get in line for that.

[brisk veldt]

Does it do anything when you press Ctrl + A?

[twilit nimbus]

nothing at all, neither the other keybinds

[brisk veldt]

Hmm, any other mods? Tried running it just by itself?

[lone frost]

what do i add here to make it look a consumeable (like the things tarots have around the card)

[twilit nimbus]

i have, im running nopeus and talisman with it, but ill try by itself again

[stark shale]

uh oh

also somethingcom, I think they're referring to the border

[lone frost]

like this stuff (its consumeable type is food)

[stark shale]

are you planning on adding multiple consumable

[lone frost]

yeah

it's a kind of consumeable called "food"

and idk what to add to make them characteristic

[stark shale]

food themed?

[lone frost]

yeah

[twilit nimbus]

same issue, it doesnt show up in the ssettings

[stark shale]

you could make it like cafeteria themed

Text being on the whiteboard

[lone frost]

but i suck at art 😭

[stark shale]

practice 🤷‍♂️

nobody is gonna expect much from an amateur likes you

(if this sounds really rude then I apologize)

[full edge]

the trick to good programmer art is to find an art style that you can be consistent in. Consistency tends to be a lot more important than being good. You dont'wanna make it look absolutely terrible, but the best approach is just to find something modular that doesn't require a lot of changes on your end

also, what's your idea for food cards?

[harsh glacier]

balatro taught me how to make good art its crazy even if most of it is doodles

[tropic egret]

sucking at art just depends on what you need to learn

for balatro you probably can get away with basic shading

[harsh glacier]

i genuinely like the soul art i remade for joyousspring lately 😭

[tropic egret]

hard to perspective on the small space