⚙・modding-general

[arctic fractal]

where can I find Ortalab mod?

[full edge]

#1217704157574860810

[hexed valve]

How can i reload? Im playing on phone

[arctic fractal]

nah but the mod itslef

itself

like to download it

[heady dust]

Huh

[full edge]

https://github.com/Eremel/Ortalab

[arctic fractal]

thx

[full edge]

Turn the game off and open it again. Might end your run though, but that's hard to avoid. Best not to get too attached to modded runs

Especially on eh... Devices that we shouldn't discuss modding here, as there's a lot more bugs that can jappen

[full edge]

Is this seals on everything?

[heady dust]

A mix of everything

[hard plank]

no I'm ADDING a trading UI

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[full edge]

You're a madman, haha. That's sick

[harsh glacier]

's shenanigans

i should work on my mod

[hard plank]

also i made sure to override the set ability

[harsh glacier]

good

[midnight tide]

standard packs are gonna be much tastier with this card

[normal hollow]

i dont eat packs

[neon orchid]

They’re already tasty though

[hard plank]

have you seen Pandora Paradoxxx

[midnight tide]

no

[neon orchid]

Except specifically gold cards, steel tastes better to me than gold

[cunning glade]

onto page 2!!!!!
thoughts on these? do they sound balanced

[misty wigeon]

is bunco actually worth playing?

[wanton rapids]

yes!!

[livid meadow]

Not sure about the first one
Uncommon scaling jokers give 0.1x mult with easier requirements permanently and with no room to reset

[wanton rapids]

bunco is very high quality

[livid meadow]

0.2 is not enough imo

[misty wigeon]

should i keep the vanilla balancing thing on in the config? bc i was going to turn that off just so it dosnt say "bunco" under vanilla cards

[cunning glade]

would 0.5 be better?

[full edge]

yes, Bunco's very fun and well made

@wanton rapids do you know whether objects have a quality that you can check to see what mod they're from?

[wanton rapids]

uh there is one, print out a card object and see what you get

[gray delta]

source error could be pretty good

yeah source error is fine nvm

Mine sweep is garbage

i am not taking that gamble bro

[full edge]

i'll check that!

[wanton rapids]

i think it's like original_mod or something

[livid meadow]

I think so?

Also the retriggering all club cards one should be uncommon imo, the one that retriggers face cards is uncommon so
And the one that gives 2 planet cards guaranteed for a tarot pack miiight be a little strong for a common

These are just my opinions tho I'm hardly an expert on balance

[full edge]

though immediately after asking that I realized I've literally already consistently used methods to check whether a joker's a kino joker, so I don't know why I'd actually need it, haha

[cunning glade]

but its 100 mult!!!

[wanton rapids]

okay yeah it's original_mod

[thorny karma]

I can make exclusions if needed

[misty wigeon]

awesome!

[full edge]

do make sure you get the jimbocarrot branch

instead of the firch one when you download it

as the firch one's out of date

[dreamy abyss]

send them to the shadow realm

[gray delta]

x100 mult but 1 in 2 chance to game over :trol:

[cunning glade]

imo the planet cards one is fine since its 2 completely random planet cards and you need to give up a tarot card for it

[cunning glade]

its a 1 in 10?

[gray delta]

ik im just joking

[misty wigeon]

are Polymino good?

[cunning glade]

oug im dumb

[gray delta]

but minesweep is risky

[wanton rapids]

they're the one part of bunco i don't like honestly

[full edge]

they're the only part of Bunco i personally don't care for, so it's hard to say, on my part, haha

[cunning glade]

this is kinda a cinema idea....

[full edge]

sorry, all cinema ideas actually belong to my mod, you can't use them

[grand geode]

PURE FICTION

[normal hollow]

kuru kuru

[stark shale]

glove... black glove... man in black.... no...

spontaneously combusts

[vapid swan]

Did you find out what mod that was?

[half matrix]

Cryptid mod

[vapid swan]

ah Thanks!

[misty wigeon]

do you think i should turn off the vanilla balancing setting?

[hallow locust]

I'm thinking about making a mod incorporating some of the gaff cards you find in some playing cards that aid in card tricks. Below are what I currently have:

• Marked Card: Tells you the card that's faced down
• Double-Faced Card: Have a card have two identical cards in one.
• Mis-Indexed Card: Have a card have two different cards in one.
• Tapered Card: Guarantees pulling a card from the deck
• Blank Card: Completes a hand that's missing a card

Thoughts?

[stark shale]

I have

an ingenious idea

[heavy roost]

Misindex seems cool, but it makes me wonder how Strength would work with it

and is Tapered like Innate from Slay The Spire?

[full edge]

I haven't played with bunco in a week or three, so I'm not actually sure which setting's better, in that regard, sorry

[stark shale]

a set of jokers(or reusable consumables) that very strong, but overusing it will give negative effect instead

[misty wigeon]

all good, i just didnt like seeing "bunco" under vanilla cards

[hallow locust]

If there's, let's say, an Ace of Diamonds and a Two of Clubs, AoD becomes 2oD and 2oC becomes 3oC

[hallow locust]

Haven't played Slay, so I don't know, but Tapered is based on tapered decks where the deck is made in a way where you can easily find a particular card in a deck, even when shuffled

[heavy roost]

Thought so. So conceptually it's like there's a set difference in rank. Maybe you have a tarot card that gives you Misindex 7, which makes a 2 of Clubs also act as a 9 of Clubs

[full edge]

marked card is definitely more fun as a concept than as an actual gameplay mechanic, I suspect. I've tried to design mechanics around face down cards for Kino, and I kept running into the fact that figuring out what a face down card is either doesn't matter, or is already doable without much additional info. Any mechanic that reveals information about face down cards needs to kind of work around that.

tapered and mis-indexed are pretty fun! I'm not sure what double faced card would be useful for, but it might be cool when other mechanics are designed around it too

[hallow locust]

It's likely going to be tarot card based

[heavy roost]

Misindex would be really cool for getting a card to respond to multiple joker effects (e.g. making it even and face so that Even Steven and Photograph both trigger)

[hallow locust]

Good point with marked cards

[hallow locust]

that's the idea

It's also technically a failsafe, depending on the boss blind

If you have Plant, then if you have a misindex of a 10 of Hearts, then you can get away with it

So, the card is still usable

[heavy roost]

oh that's interesting, it'll probably make it tougher to code

It would be easier to have them still be debuffed against both ranks than the other way around I think

I guess the tarot card for it would allow you to make a card misindexed, but the difference in rank that it gives would be random up to 12 and it would wrap around

so you use a Misindex 5 on a 10 and it becomes a 10/2

[hallow locust]

I'll figure something out lol

[full edge]

Marked cards might be more interesting if they allow you to know where they're currently in the deck in some way? 🤔

[hallow locust]

Isn't there a boss blind where you can't see your cards in the deck?

Well, part of the boss blind effects results to that

[full edge]

any boss blind that relates to face down cards will result in you not being able to know the details of your deck

[hard plank]

😭😭😭

[stark shale]

hmmm

[dreamy abyss]

aiyoriok

[stark shale]

I've been thinking about it

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[stark shale]

has anyone made a set of tarot cards based on other decks

[hallow locust]

Double-faced is two of the same card in one. So, if it's a King of Diamonds, and you used the tarot card, it would be treated as two Kings of Diamonds in one. Without additions and such, it would be a retrigger without a retrigger. However, when you apply additions and effects, the two get them. So, you could get two steel kings with red seals in one card, ideally anyway

[hallow locust]

So, it could work in that instance of knowing what's in your deck prior to pulling it out?

Otherwise, there isn't much of a use

[full edge]

oh, i really like that idea. I just assumed you'd be able to flip the card, but that's a way more fun mechanic

[full edge]

I meant more that it reveals information about the deck order, as there's not actually a lot of shuffling going on in Balatro. a marked king being at spot 52 in your deck will reveal to you that you can't just discard to find it

[blazing raptor]

I think it's usb tethering

[hallow locust]

Could be an idea

[full edge]

you can't discuss modding on android here due to #📜・modding-rules

[kind zenith]

Aw dang it

[kind zenith]

Thanks

[hallow locust]

I'm thinking about adding blank cards

[stark shale]

[blazing raptor]

Yeah, really forget the rule

[hallow locust]

Mechanically, blank card could be used to complete a hand that is missing a certain card to complete it

So, if you had a straight and you missed a particular card for the straight, a blank card would "fill in the gap" so to speak

And would then classify the hand as a straight

[full edge]

you might wanna check this channel for discussions of 'quantum rank' as to why that's difficult, haha. It's a fun idea, but straight calculation makes any card that can fill in as any rank hard to set up

It's doable, though

just also means your mod cannot interact with other mods with similar mechanics

[hallow locust]

I'll try to do some research into it

[hallow locust]

it is what it is. I'm don't expect a mod to be compatible with every mod that exists

[misty wigeon]

what does it mean? do some mods not?

[full edge]

it means that it adds moon cards specifically for those mods

[full edge]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/issues/449#issuecomment-2870224498

might be a helpful read!

[hallow locust]

Right, I'll get working on it

[stark shale]

[novel heron]

what mod is this?

[solar sandal]

is there a mod that lets you search for seeds with certain conditions? preferably one that would work with other mods

[hallow locust]

Doesn't brainstorm do that?

I know Roffle uses it to get specific endless runs

[wind token]

Yea

Brainstorm

[hallow locust]

Thought so

[solar sandal]

alr, ill try it out

[misty wigeon]

all in jest

[tropic egret]

making a spreadsheet. my joker has to convert the left jokers into the two right jokers

some of these are horrid choices

[wraith seal]

chicot might actually be useful now

also

i feel like triboulet should give baron and shoot the moon 🤔

[novel heron]

palworld breeding in balatro when

[tropic egret]

annoyingly moon is common

[wraith seal]

a

but their themes fit perfectly.........

[tropic egret]

i know 😭

maybe legendaries become THREE jokers.

[wraith seal]

thats fair

shouldnt canio give glass joker or something (idk if thats the name, hopefully is) though

[tropic egret]

that's good

i forgor aobout glass

yorick should be Hit the Road and canio should be campfire or something

[wraith seal]

yorick giving hit the road makes sense

[tropic egret]

i also

forgot

stuntman.

im moving Mystic Summit to the extra joker for yorick. Hit the Road can become Drunkard

some tweaks

[wanton rapids]

uncrafting table (????)

[tropic egret]

ye

[hard plank]

👴

[wraith seal]

buddy

[boreal reef]

evil hastard

where is Plana

[livid meadow]

No that's not a buddy that's a joker
If this helped you please like and subscribe

[wraith seal]

finding

[wraith seal]

die

[livid meadow]

You misspelled "thanks"

[cunning kelp]

What precautions should I take before using balatro mod manager?

[full edge]

back up your current save files if collection progress is something you care about

[cunning kelp]

Yes, how do I do that?

[full edge]

you can copy the folders from the folder that's in appdata > roaming. The numbered folders will be your profiles

[cunning kelp]

Done

[wraith seal]

my god

[cunning kelp]

cryptid is having an issue with talisman not being the right version?

[cerulean moon]

https://youtu.be/u0Irl126i0c

[cunning kelp]

I have talisman

[full edge]

if you're wanting to play cryptid, I'd advise not to use the bmm, and instead install it from the github release page. As it'll have the right version of talisman with it

[cunning kelp]

Ah, thanks

[full edge]

i'll go check and see how the talisman version works for bmm, atm, though

[full edge]

ah, yes, uninstall talisman, and make sure to pick version 2.2.0a from the list before downloading it. I think latest should also work, but I'm not entirely sure

[cunning kelp]

I removed everything except lovely from the folder and copy pasted the mods from the cryptid github release

Yup, works great. Thanks!

Which do I pick?

[hallow locust]

is this a difficulty slider?

[cunning kelp]

Of sorts it seems

looks like mainline works best

[boreal reef]

it selects how unbalanced cryptid stuff are

[grand geode]

playin spectrum

[vast stump]

Could someone help with downloading and running the pokermon mod on Mac OS. I tried following instructions but I’m new to this and every time I start up the game it’s just normal Balatro…

[hallow locust]

I see

[hard plank]

madness

[blazing verge]

dont get the release no no no no

get the latest instead

the release is very outdated now

lemme just

[misty wigeon]

madness

cryptid is made for chaos

[blazing verge]

@karmic pasture get these instead of the release, release is outdated rn
https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[half matrix]

Another leaks for my Balatro reskin mod: 8 ball as Baby Einstein (because it's branded), giffany as seeing double and RWJ as dusk

[cunning kelp]

Oh! Ok just download direct from main

[gilded vortex]

I remember two mods that had a similar mechanic

Though one of them was for 0.9.8

[karmic pasture]

Ok

[quaint finch]

i wanted to get into modded balatro and installed steammodded, talisman, lovely and cryptid as i start the game with cryptid in my mods folder lovely crashes. can someone help?

[half matrix]

Is that... German?

[quaint finch]

yes

[umbral pilot]

update lovely

[blazing verge]

did you get the latest main from all of em

[half matrix]

Cryptid is so Easy to play hehe

[quaint finch]

i guess i mean i got on github and downloaded the latest releas

[blazing verge]

get these for cryptid

not the releases

[half matrix]

Q

[hallow locust]

It shouldn't be too hard to implement

[spring star]

what mod laucher are you guys using

[hallow locust]

I say with confidence

[gilded vortex]

Launcher?

[half matrix]

Rhymes with grug

[spring star]

like are you using workshop?

[gilded vortex]

I think your idea might resemble X Cards

[gilded vortex]

What workshop

[spring star]

steam workshop

[hallow locust]

From cryptid?

[spring star]

to host the mods

[hallow locust]

I'm assuming it's from there

[gilded vortex]

#1231769435749220362 message

[half matrix]

Wait, is Balatro has Workshop?

[gilded vortex]

But this is from 0.9.8

[gilded vortex]

Not for Balatro

[thorny karma]

You wish balatro had workshop support

[gilded vortex]

Actually I think most people don’t

[thorny karma]

How come?

It helps getting mods out there

[spring star]

then how are people using mods?

[hallow locust]

I'll look at adding it to my mod then for the updated version of Steamodded

[spring star]

i even tryed thunderstore

[gilded vortex]

Lovely and SMODS

[full edge]

The cryptid releases are outdated? Just content-wise, or are there major bugs in there?

[blazing verge]

content-wise, compat-wise (specially the bignum update) and major bugfixes and rewrites

[gilded vortex]

By the way, some of your other ideas are interesting. The Powerful mod had a Frog Joker whose mechanic seems like it would be useful for your Cards inside Cards

[blazing verge]

new release will be there soon but for now use the latest

[subtle sluice]

I'm running into an issue trying to boot with mods, which I haven't done before. Any helpp?

[gilded vortex]

I myself thought of using it for Cards inside Cards

But I haven’t tried to

[gilded vortex]

Log?

[full edge]

If there's more stable releases, why aren't those the last release? Do you happen to know?

(I have absolutely no clue how involved you are in Cryptid's dev-goings on)

[blazing verge]

everything they wanted in the next major release is done

its just they are trying to find hard-to-find crashes now

the thing is that cryptid releases only happen when a LOT of content is added and fully polished

[full edge]

Wait, so bug fixes don't get added in a new release?

[blazing verge]

they do

but like

its been months since the last release

[blazing verge]

after they are found in the release? not till the next

[quaint finch]

ok i thought its fixed but it isnt i reinstalled all files and still same error

[gilded vortex]

I think it’s like SMODS

But it’s Cryptid

[warm swan]

Hey, I need help installing mods. I've followed all of the steps, yet nothing is happening in-game. I'm on Steam Deck.

[blazing verge]

so far updates to latest since the last release include Quantum Computing (new code cards), Demicolon (forcetrigger), Bignum, compat, so on so on

[hallow locust]

Thanks. Tried to keep it thematic, but also add some interesting mechanics

[blazing verge]

cryptid devs have an auto-update script in their discord so you auto-update cryptid (and other mods) to the latest main instead of using the releases

specially because there's 8 pushes every day sooo

[full edge]

I mean, I don't love how SMODS does it either, but I can get it a bit more, there, as there's a lot of dependency on it. But for Cryptid, I can't see why they'd do it that way at all

[vast stump]

Can anyone help me with installing pokermon mod on Mac OS. Can’t figure it out.

[full edge]

As in, the auto-updater is a separate script? Or is that the https call I see pop up in Cryptid's cmd?

[vast stump]

I just bought the game again on steam (already have on mobile) just to play the mods but I can’t get them to work

[blazing verge]

no, separate

[gilded vortex]

If they didn’t want to break things they should patch Talisman out

[full edge]

Bleh, okay, that makes sense

[gilded vortex]

If you can’t find someone to answer here, try the SMODS or Pokermon servers

[blazing verge]

I myself have the autoupdate script set up like this

[gilded vortex]

People have modded Mac but it’s not common

[vast stump]

Okay

[gilded vortex]

By the way, while y’all are here

[warm swan]

Can I have the link to the SMODS server?

[gilded vortex]

Vote on #1343670935122870342 message

Poll to gauge people’s opinion about mods requiring other mods

[hallow locust]

Btw, if you guys have suggestions for names of these tarot-like cards, let me know. You can drop me a message via the https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1374744419173138533 thread

[gilded vortex]

https://discord.gg/eFZc4Fef

[warm swan]

Absolutely. Mods being based off of others just makes it easier to mod.

[gilded vortex]

I want more people who aren’t hardcore modders to vote

[full edge]

I don't mind the concept of an auto updater, but the way Cryptid's set up to just fully ignore how insanely big it is in the community gets kinda frustrating. Cryptid bugs and strange behaviours are one of the main issues people post about here (besides devs chatting, ofc), and a separate auto-updater and releases that aren't kept up to date are quite a headache for new people to work with

[vast stump]

Do you have a link to the pokermon server? Idk how to search for it

[full edge]

Especially because the chances of any actual Cryptid devs actually checking this chat seem to be very low, so it's consistently people trying to help people out without really being up to date on the state of Cryptid

[gilded vortex]

I don’t sorry

Try checking #1209506514763522108 and see if they have a link in their thread

Or just ask there

[blazing verge]

this is the balatro mod autoupdate script stuff at the cryptid discord
https://discord.com/channels/1264429948970733782/1268911536638787625

git required

[novel heron]

"auto" lmao

looks like the most convoluted "auto"-updater

[full edge]

I'll have to see where I can post about it on the cryptid discord, but I'm going to beg for them to try and set up some tighter protocols for releases and updates, as well as helping people fix their issues

Because I am honestly kinda getting annoyed with Cryptid, broadly, just from a maintenance and ease-of-access standpoint

[novel heron]

you could also git submodule cryptid or at least pin the cryptid version in your readme?

but yeah, i don't envy you trying to support cryptid

[worthy cloak]

how can one edit the textures of the game?

[novel heron]

or even pin it directly in your mod meta

[full edge]

I mean, I don't much care about which version of cryptid I support. If it becomes too much effort, I'll just drop it. But I do get annoyed at the fact that Cryptid's the main mod that people post issues with here or need install help for, while there's no easy support for it, and apparently the process is kinda convoluted to keep up with

[cunning kelp]

what is cryptid

I'm convinced this isn't balatro anymore

[novel heron]

it's a balatro mod that makes balatro not balatro anymore

[normal hollow]

you know what's not balatro

JoyousSpring

[gray delta]

can someone go check if my mod is cryptid compatible
-# this is totally not a shill for my mod

[novel heron]

yeah, but then again, that's also on the people doing that instead of cryptid maintainers i guess...cryptid github doesn't link to this discord, they link to their own

[gilded vortex]

The game links to this Discord

[full edge]

Yeah, that's true, but on the other hand this is the official Balatro discord, where the modding community is located, and they have their own thread for it

[novel heron]

own thread? then fair i guess...but still, i feel like this 50%-60% on kids not able to read more than a paragraph

[full edge]

Also, at some point, I do feel like a mod gets to a size where if you wanna be maintained at that size, you need to set up some support for it more broadly.

I don't blame people for not knowing how talisman version incompatibility happens when they're downloading or updating, or to handle issues due a release being broken, or apparently being months old.

Or issues due to bmm installing things weirdly

[gilded vortex]

To be fair I think this phenomenon applies to the internet as a whole

Moderation is lacking or automated because the internet grew fast

[novel heron]

i see that as well, but my main annoyance would still be people not being able to:

• google
• read
• ask

it's a spectrum of course and everyone can overlook stuff but a lot of questions here feel like this discord channel is the other side of the google search input text field

[full edge]

But also, the amount of people that have had the cryptid-talisman related crash that just shuts your game down and doesn't let you start it up anymore is quite high. That's a nightmare to fix yourself, honestly

[full edge]

Yeah, fair points too

[gilded vortex]

I mean they come here to ask

And it makes sense they do

[full edge]

I will admit that I am mostly annoyed, right now, so I don't have a solution to pitch and more so just frustration to vent, haha

[gilded vortex]

It’s the most visible space to sort modding issues, and if you’re just starting you don’t know what else is out there, or what you have in your hands

[gilded vortex]

Proposal: remove Talisman form the internet

[novel heron]

yeah but there's levels to asking, that's what i mean with "being able to - ask"...some people ask questions like:

my game crashes

okay?

what do i do

crash log

what's a crash log?

and so on

[gilded vortex]

Extract it, make it into juice, bury the juice with other nuclear waste

[boreal reef]

discussions only happening on discord does limit ability to search things

[gilded vortex]

That’s exactly what happens

[boreal reef]

but yes most people are terrible at asking useful questions

[jaunty galleon]

“can i ask a question here?”

[boreal reef]

no you may not

[novel heron]

and in addition to that the search is absolute garbage, you can't search in threads, yada yada yada discord is a dogshit medium for this kind of thing

[gray delta]

whats a game

[jaunty galleon]

discord is barely functional software lol

[boreal reef]

searching to find someone asking a question then scrolling through 2 hours worth of dialogue to see if anyone replied to it

very fun

[gilded vortex]

There’s also a lacking technical know-how that leads to poor problem-solving (including asking bad questions)

Not all of which is their fault

[gray delta]

trying to see if anyone else found an error you're having is pain 😔

[full edge]

Tbf, I think part of is me also being annoyed at Cryptid not channeling it's community effort towards cleaning up it's codebase or improving its documentation a bit, over new developing new features (though I get how cryptid's general set up makes that happen). But if you make any mod, you will get crash logs due to Talisman and cryptid, and you will be expected to solve them, which can fucking suck just with how annoying any of that code is to read up on

[gilded vortex]

It’s also hard when people post screenshots which you can’t search

[gilded vortex]

I mean you could make your mod incompatible with Talisman

[novel heron]

sry i need to push back on this again because this is only half of the story

i didn't exaggerate when i said people use online forums like you and i use google - like if someone asks you back to please give the crash log, your first instinct shouldn't be to immediately ask back in this channel on how to do that imo

[gilded vortex]

Right now I’m a bit too lazy to fix issues with Talisman

[full edge]

So this channel also being half tech support for devs that aren't around here much and don't seem like they're solving the issue from their end does end up feeling super frustrating

[wraith seal]

is it a good idea to use "<=" to describe this

[full edge]

I wouldn't, personally

[stark shale]

Balatro? I hardly know bro!

also bepis

[jaunty galleon]

it’s madness that the biggest balatro mod seems to be held together with sticks and glue, with a dependency held together by soggy rotten sticks and glue

[gilded vortex]

To be fair I think there’s a human element to it where people prefer talking to a person. But yes

[gray delta]

looks weird and silly but it does the job i guess

[wraith seal]

hi

[stark shale]

will there be upgrades to rental and perishable

[gilded vortex]

What’s wrong with “0 or below”

[stark shale]

eternal I have no idea what can be upgraded

[wraith seal]

likely, yeah

[full edge]

Make the eternal sticker perishable

[wraith seal]

too long, kinda wanted it to be on only one line :p

[jaunty galleon]

eternal sticker only lasts 5/10 rounds?

[novel heron]

tbf there's also the other side, a trap i sadly fell into as well: not reporting on github issues anymore because i feel like reporting bugs here (ideally in a mod thread) most often result in waaay faster fixes

[wraith seal]

i feel like having eternal stickers automatically removed at a certain point doesnt qualify as a buff

[novel heron]

like you can't expect devs to also check 4 different platforms for bug reports i guess

[wraith seal]

since some builds actually want their jokers to be eternal

[gilded vortex]

{s:0.001}

[wraith seal]

sob

[tranquil vessel]

it's bad lol

[stark shale]

Eternal sometimes gives their sell value at the end of the round??? maybe???

[gilded vortex]

Or you could do {s:e-10#10^^10}

[jaunty galleon]

well, you could always word it as eternal jokers can be sold after 5/10 rounds, and maybe give them a sell value boost too

[novel heron]

what is human element

[full edge]

Yeah, I mean, I do wanna make clear that I don't think there's any arrogance or malice involved, from the cryptid community. It's just that discord sucks as a medium, and it is kinda exacerbating the issue

[stark shale]

Eternal ? get their sell value with this one trick!

[gilded vortex]

Are you asking seriously or not

[novel heron]

no

[wraith seal]

hmmmmmmmm

i could make it so having 2 eternal jokers give you one extra joker slot, maybe?

[novel heron]

it was a joke to hide the fact i am agreeing with you

anyways guys, AI, amirite

[gilded vortex]

There is an interesting SCP named [the] [HUMAN!] [element?], which I have some issues with, but it’s pretty interesting

[wraith seal]

real quick

[gray delta]

guys can i have like a completely random stupid joker idea

[gilded vortex]

-# It’s in fact about AI

[wraith seal]

pseudorandom("blah blah") <= 1/100 means its 1%, right?

just to be absolutely sure

[full edge]

Ya

[wraith seal]

.

yeah i dunno why its common

[gilded vortex]

You can think of it as x <= p the uniform random variable x being in the set [0,p], an interval of length p inside the set [0,1] of length 1. Because it is uniform*, the probability of x being in [0,p] is p/1 which is just p

[gray cove]

I’m smashing the dog bro

I dont care

[wraith seal]

???????????????

[gilded vortex]

I assume you can

[gray cove]

smash

[wraith seal]

help

[novel heron]

please don't post traumatic math in this channel

[gray delta]

wrong chat..?

[gilded vortex]

That’s why I won’t post differential forms

[wraith seal]

to be fair, im sure the percentage stuff is right

but

for some reason a drop thats supposed to be 4% is somewhat common in my mod

and 1%? somehow literally got it in like, their first run

i dont fucking know how

[gray cove]

Not it’s an inside joke

[gilded vortex]

what’s updog

[gilded vortex]

Randomness

[wraith seal]

true

[gray delta]

Oh the dog is inside the pfp makes sense

[jaunty galleon]

Fell For It Again Award (Uncommon) - This Joker gains 0.5X Mult every time the Wheel of Fortune misses (Currently 1X Mult)

[full edge]

That's you being bad at comprehending randomness, probably, haha

[gilded vortex]

But also maybe you programmed the chance incorrectly

[gray cove]

How life been feeling lately

[gray delta]

😭

[hallow locust]

I'm thinking about adding some jokers for the gaff cards mod

[wraith seal]

no im 100% certain its correct

[hallow locust]

One joker to generate blank cards

[wraith seal]

4th time my pc crashed today

i

[hallow locust]

basically how stone card works

[wraith seal]

can i even mod like this

[novel heron]

me when the rng is actually random

[wraith seal]

me when people get so absurdly lucky that you cant help but doubt your own code

[boreal reef]

most played jokers in your profile do not appear

[jaunty galleon]

MY SUPER COOL JIMBO OC (Rare) - 1,000,000X Mult, self destructs when Boss Blind is defeated

[boreal reef]

im not sure how stupid you want things to be

[wraith seal]

should i add gacha to yggdrasil

[gray delta]

i just need a really stupid random idea so that i can think about it then work towards a joker thats actually balanced xD

[novel heron]

that's dope, i'd actually love that (i like discovering stuff)

[boreal reef]

Cards in the shop cost 50% less but you must buy everything at once

[gilded vortex]

I hope it’ll feel better soon

[boreal reef]

wait why am I giving you ideas Im making stupid jokers myself

[gray delta]

oh god

[jaunty galleon]

lol i’m just giving joker ideas that would add if i wasn’t doing vanilla+

[gilded vortex]

I have some stupid ideas

[boreal reef]

im making that if you make that im sending you a cease and desist

[gray delta]

from your idea i am thinking of a joker that does something when a lucky card fails

[gilded vortex]

Let me think of one that’s stupid

But not too little stupid

[wraith seal]

suggest me relic ideas yall

[gilded vortex]

Because I might make them it they’re not that stupid

[novel heron]

joker that tells a knights and knaves logic puzzle and you have to deduce the given xmult

[gray delta]

puzzle joker..

[gilded vortex]

Joker that gives you Chips equal to your Mult, but caps your Mult to be equal to your Chips

[gilded vortex]

Joker Relic that gives you Chips equal to your Mult, but caps your Mult to be equal to your Chips

[gray delta]

uhhhhhhhhh

[wraith seal]

sob

[novel heron]

joker that tells jokes and gives mult depending on the volume recorded by your mic when you laugh

[normal hollow]

i love how my effects get more incomprehensible as i add more stuff

[gray delta]

i need to write these down hold on

[wraith seal]

N' thats my thing

[gilded vortex]

Never ask Chatot what it said during the DS era

[wraith seal]

im suing you

[boreal reef]

X3 Mult
All Blinds are the Needle

[normal hollow]

your thing is a lot of text

[gilded vortex]

That’s Dead Cat/Nine Lives

[gray delta]

uh

[wraith seal]

qingque

[boreal reef]

i dont know what that is!

[boreal reef]

wowie

[wise mauve]

skeleton joker but better moment

[jaunty galleon]

I had a similar idea once actually, Golden Needle (Uncommon) - +5 discards, 1 hand per round

[novel heron]

eternal joker that converts every bought joker to another random joker

[gilded vortex]

Not better also not a Joker

It’s Mr. Bones

But Mr. Bones defeats the Blind for you

[novel heron]

joker that does nothing unless you give it food and water

[gray delta]

"Played Aces have a 1 in 2 chance to retrigger adjacent cards when scored" something like this

[wraith seal]

im gonna make that doki doki balatro club api mod one day

[gilded vortex]

what

[jaunty galleon]

a stupid idea for an econ madness i thought of, might use myself but unsure, Day Trader (Rare) - Force-sells a random Joker for triple its sell value, create a random Joker in its place

[novel heron]

are...are my suggestions too stupid? :(

[wraith seal]

yes

[gilded vortex]

What does that mean

[wraith seal]

try to have the 5 legendary jokers fall for you

[gray delta]

"This Joker gains X0.02 Mult for each hand and discard remaining at end of round" this might actually work well

[gilded vortex]

@pine cargo

[wraith seal]

sob

what if theres a joker that makes you play a minigame everytime to trigger its effect

[novel heron]

joker that makes inappropriate comments towards you but also looks sexy

[jaunty galleon]

absolutely beans scaling for an uncommon or a rare, best case scenario is ~0.2X per round, average case is ~0.1X per round

[wraith seal]

hey thats my planned thing

[gilded vortex]

There’s two or three of those

[wraith seal]

true

my idea is that its a computer that needs rewiring every round

[gilded vortex]

Joker that makes decent compliments towards you but looks ugly

[boreal reef]

joker that requires you to paypal me 1 dollar for it to give X5 Mult

[gilded vortex]

Joker that makes you vote on the poll asking about downloading required mods #1343670935122870342 message

[boreal reef]

hello? hr department????

[jaunty galleon]

X3 Mult. When a blind is selected, debuffs itself until you sell a card

[novel heron]

joker that watches my backlog of youtube videos and then summarizes them for me

[gray delta]

"If most played poker hand is drawn at start of round, level up most played poker hand" migjt be fun

[stuck gorge]

the 7 balatro blind souls

[full edge]

insane high card synergy

or, insane's maybe not true

[wraith seal]

we need dr house as a joker

[full edge]

but still, 1 level per round

pretty decent

[jaunty galleon]

so burnt joker?

[gilded vortex]

Joker that watches every film in Balatro Goes Kino at 4x Speed

and a different one in each ear and eye

[gray delta]

oh yeah i kind of forgot that high card exist

[gilded vortex]

@lavish jackal

[boreal reef]

you need to have exactly a high card with nothing else

problem solved

[livid meadow]

I'm actually planning to make a mod with mechanics like this
Basically adding a bunch of different random things like skill checks, dice rolls, coin flips, minigames, etc and a bunch of jokers and cards that use each
I think it would be funny

[novel heron]

okay srs suggestion: joker that flips the screen

[jaunty galleon]

“level up the best poker hand drawn at start of Blind” might be good

[gilded vortex]

Oh actually there’s a fourth mod like this

I saw on Twitter

A mod that adds the Dinosaur Game

[plush hound]

there's one already

[gilded vortex]

And it also adds Ultrakill

[plush hound]

Yahimod

[gilded vortex]

I think

[plush hound]

Yahimod

[gray delta]

holy

[lavish jackal]

you want foreman, house glove meme, actual house md joker, vicodin joker

i got a backlog

[gray delta]

yeah thats pretty good

[gilded vortex]

Yeah so there’s 3 or 4 mods that do that

[plush hound]

i should probably

change my identity

[wraith seal]

do i know u

[livid meadow]

1 in 10 chance to die of vicodin overdose

[plush hound]

do i know you

[wraith seal]

i dont think so

[gilded vortex]

The JoJo mod, the Sauce mod, the Sauce mod, the… wait that’s Nxkoo

[hallow locust]

0 in 10 chance for it to be lupus

[gilded vortex]

I hadn’t recognized them

[plush hound]

haaaaaaiiiiiii

[wraith seal]

thats nxkoo???

[lavish jackal]

1 in 10000 chance to be lupus

[wraith seal]

im sorry

[novel heron]

can you make one for this house md game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-RVp7isX8

[wraith seal]

it might he lupus

[lavish jackal]

it's never lupus except for that one episode where it is

[gilded vortex]

Masc!Nxkoo

[lavish jackal]

actually better idea for lore accurate odds

[lavish jackal]

1 in [number of house episodes]

1 in 177

[wraith seal]

blueprint blind

[novel heron]

looks nice btw

[wind token]

i might make brainstorm next

[gilded vortex]

Blue pill Blind?

[wind token]

but i do kinda wanna make the blueprint blink

[stuck gorge]

bluestorm blind

[jaunty galleon]

i want to make him a legendary joker

[wraith seal]

all my students are

[wind token]

i alt tab to that photo

[hallow locust]

lol

[jaunty galleon]

where the jokers at? abstract want mult mult!

[hallow locust]

Jimbo's ugly cousin

[wind token]

ALL MY JOKERS ARE CHIPS!

[stuck gorge]

nice you did hanging chad too

[wind token]

yea

[normal hollow]

anyone here knows how to play with hanafuda cards

i need it for a mod

[stuck gorge]

splash joker blind and it makes all cards not score

[wind token]

[wraith seal]

its over

[stuck gorge]

only cards in hand effects work

[wraith seal]

someone finished my entire mod in one freakjng run

HOW

[last nest]

parendolia when all face cards are debuffed

[stuck gorge]

darksouls run

[wraith seal]

sob

[full edge]

with only yggdrasil, or also other mods?

[stuck gorge]

thats just the plant

oh wait

[wraith seal]

yggdrasil and supposedly balanced mods

[stuck gorge]

my reading comphrension

[wraith seal]

they got like, 8 soul-rarity cards

i dont know how

[vernal hare]

Son Loaf joker

[wraith seal]

@marie you got some explanations to do

[last nest]

dont worry
i also dont know how to spell patrendiola

[wind token]

i want to make Fib Blind to have a dynamically changing boss color but idk if you can do that

[wraith seal]

you can

[stuck gorge]

you can

[wind token]

oh shit, fr? is it easy?

[wraith seal]

mhm

[wind token]

i shall now ask, how :3c

[wraith seal]

i think 900n1 did it for their asriel blind too

you can try asking them, im off from my pc rn :3

[wind token]

fair

[last nest]

sans joker

[wind token]

900n1, how :3c

[gray cove]

@stuck gorge

[stuck gorge]

on Game.update()

[wind token]

they are right there

[gilded vortex]

There’s two Hanafuda mods

[wind token]

thank!

[wraith seal]

oh thats exactly how i did it too

[gilded vortex]

I think one was by Grassy

[wraith seal]

lol

[stuck gorge]

i used a hsvToRgb function so i can generate colors easily

lmao

[wraith seal]

mhm

i have a function like that too....

[wind token]

assuming thats in the bosses code? or am i guessing wrong

[stuck gorge]

yea

[stuck gorge]

nah it's hooked to Game.update

[wind token]

oh

i guess i gotta check how to hook to that

to the wiki i go

[pine cargo]

No wait chat let this man cook

(man gender neutral)

[last nest]

today I learned that G.GAME.chips / G.GAME.blind.chips somehow gives a table instead of a float value for one microsecond and breaks my logic statements

[gray cove]

Just pinging you to help them if you don’t mind

[stuck gorge]

lol

[wraith seal]

tlaisman

[last nest]

balatro dating sim when?

[wraith seal]

talisman

[pine cargo]

Now

In 5 minutes

Idk

[gilded vortex]

Do you have Talisman

[last nest]

yes

[gilded vortex]

That’s what Talisman does

[wraith seal]

talisman turns some variables into tables

so yeah

[last nest]

sweet

[wind token]

how hook to update lmao

[last nest]

saved me 38 years of banging my head against my brick wall specifically for banging my head against

[steel patio]

yea you'll want to use to_big(insert_number_here) to convert stuff into talisman tables

[gilded vortex]

Just uninstall Talisman

[last nest]

i had to install it to get cryptid working

I'm going to try to work around that

[full edge]

what was the conclusion to the chat yesterday about talisman fixing their shit with a lua update, btw? Why wasn't that viable?

[umbral pilot]

dumb jokler

[wind token]

holy shit... its real

hi john lovely

[umbral pilot]

because you would need to get everyone to switch over to lj2

[last nest]

is there any preceeding object i need to call for the to_big() method or is it global?

[gilded vortex]

Uninstall Cryptid too

[last nest]

alright
got any reccomendations as a repacement for cryptid?

[full edge]

yeah i guess that'll do it. There's no easy way for people to install it?

[gilded vortex]

Is that harder than getting everyone to have to appease the Talisman “can’t compare number with table”?

[umbral pilot]

it's dead simple to install

maybe there's a world where talisman ships with the binary

[gilded vortex]

Any mod that doesn’t require Talisman and isn’t Talisman

[wind token]

wait, what even is hooking in lua terms

[gilded vortex]

Hooking

[wind token]

[gilded vortex]

It’s a more general concept

[last nest]

👍 o7

[umbral pilot]

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129557-tutorial-function-hooking-and-you/

[wind token]

how hook up with Game.update

[steel patio]

should be able to just call it globally
though you'll need something in your code like

    return num
end```
so it doesn't do anything funny

[full edge]

i'm an inch away from throwing a hissy fit towards cryptid and talisman tbh, so maybe I just start posting about this daily on the talisman dev channel, haha

[umbral pilot]

it's worth a shot

[gilded vortex]

I’ll lend you my power

[umbral pilot]

but also remember that they're shoehorned into the current solution, not much that they can do about it

[gilded vortex]

They can stop requiring Talisman

[wind token]

i am not gonna lie to you, ive got no fucking idea what im looking at here

[last nest]

i guess i can make that work
do you know of any documentation about how to_big works so i dont mess it up?

[umbral pilot]

I was talking about Talisman, but that's not a real solution anyways

[full edge]

i'd honestly even be up for talisman inherently coming up with a pop-up when you launch it that takes responsibility for the crashes it causes honestly

[gilded vortex]

Remove Talisman from GitHub

That ought to do it

[umbral pilot]

Wouldn't solve the issue that mods like Cryptid need to remove the scoring cap

[gilded vortex]

They don’t need to

Just stay within the cap

[steel patio]

admittedly i wouldn't know where to find that beyond what's in the github repo

[umbral pilot]

Which would go against the entire point of Cryptid

[gilded vortex]

Good

[umbral pilot]

Boo, I quite like Cryptid

It's fun to blow up the score cap haha

Well, imho

[gilded vortex]

I’ve never even installed it

[full edge]

but as far as being shoe-horned in, is it mostly that it'd be very difficult to actually set up, or just that some people would need to commit some effort towards it?

[gilded vortex]

I’m glad for what MathIsFun has done for the community

But the most popular mod breaking literally every other mod and forcing other mods to adapt

That ain’t it

[umbral pilot]

I think the current issue is that it's largely untested

I've looked into native solutions and there's not much to do other than rewrite bytecode in the JIT

At least IIRC

[full edge]

I guess I can throw a fuzz and try and get them to devote some time towards actually testing it. I can totally get it if it turns out to be unworkable

[umbral pilot]

You can't intercept the addition call since they're dynamically optimized in codegen

[full edge]

but I probably shouldn't now, I'm too annoyed at Cryptid today, haha

[gilded vortex]

Channel that annoyance into action

Go post about it

[wind token]

How could I get the needed score and the score?

wait, this isnt the right channel

[full edge]

I mean, I wanna see if I can write it in a way that isn't me just being annoyed, and actually constructive first, haha

[gilded vortex]

Construct Ice’s fist in INSERT YOUR FACE HERE

[last nest]

you mean the chips needed to beat the blind and the total chips you've accumulated in the round?

[full edge]

but, on another note, Victin, do you happen to know how to add a tooltip to all jokers that match a certain quality? I'm trying to hook generate_ui funcs and none seem to be very helpful

[wind token]

yea, but someone just tokd me how, thanks though

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm your Jokers or all Jokers

[full edge]

all jokers

[umbral pilot]

well actually https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/blob/eec7a8016c3381b949b5d84583800d05897fa960/src/lj_asm_x86.h#L2204

hmm

[gilded vortex]

Probably hooking generate ui and adding to the info queue

[normal hollow]

who up here queueing their info

[exotic tree]

Gjdhdhdhfh aww thank you @wraith seal

[wraith seal]

its the truth, that shader still makes me flabbergasted even to this day 😭

but yeah, np :p

[gilded vortex]

Your work on Balatro mods is super cool

[exotic tree]

Posting this since it's relevant I guess but I only just added gradients because we have a Stand that's specifically rainbow/light related and works with polychrome cards so GAY BEAM

[gilded vortex]

By the way that reminds me, do you know how to pass variables to a Shader?

[exotic tree]

You can do so directly with G.SHADERS[shader_key]:send('key', value)

There are technically a couple ways to do it

[gilded vortex]

I’m using draw_shader IIRC

There’s an argument that’s supposed to be ARGS.send_to_shader, but it complains if I pass a table

[exotic tree]

The reason why it complains is because it's only set up to pass it to the value named after the shader if you don't also set the custom table flag at the very end of the function. You'll notice almost all the vanilla edition shaders have that value that's named like foil or holo or w/e

[tacit cedar]

Average cryptid run

[gilded vortex]

Basically I’m trying to manually render the Edition on extra sprites. Think of it like applying the Edition shader to a Soul Sprite

[exotic tree]

So you can either use direct send before calling draw_shader, or you can package a whole table with every extern value for the shader, pass it, and also make sure the flag the function call with the custom shader at the end

But the latter requires you to manually grab all the other variables for it

[hallow locust]

Trying to make my mod compatible for most mods is going to be a pain in the arse

[gilded vortex]

How would I use direct send?

[exotic tree]

Use the function call I showed before

[torn crystal]

hi all, im looking for a mod that will allow me to use save states. im in the process of fully exploring a seed and a save state loader would help cut down on doing the same sections over and over again. any recommendations?

[gilded vortex]

Okay I’ll need to learn how that function works

Thanks

[gilded vortex]

Debug Plus

[hallow locust]

Brainstorm maybe?

[full edge]

debugplus

[hallow locust]

nevermind

[torn crystal]

any mod loader you can recommend? im using thunderstore rn but neither debugplus and brainstorm are on there

[tacit cedar]

Look at the seed analyzer of The Soul

[umbral pilot]

thunderstore mods are pretty outdated at this point

if you want a mod manager then the community-made one is a good bet

[wraith seal]

what the hell is thunderstore

[full edge]

i don't know what thunderstore is, haha

[umbral pilot]

it's the place I work at

[tacit cedar]

Yeah

[torn crystal]

the seed im exploring RN is one I got from reddit, UFPA9PY8, it has 2 legendary jokers before the first boss blind

[umbral pilot]

funnily enough

[steel patio]

mod site for quite a few games

[wraith seal]

huh.

[hallow locust]

Just use the Soul

[steel patio]

i personally use it for ror2

[wraith seal]

that does explain mr lovely's expertise

[torn crystal]

yes that is how you get them both

[gray delta]

😭

[hallow locust]

no, as in the Soul

[tacit cedar]

https://spectralpack.github.io/TheSoul/

[torn crystal]

oh lmao

[weak nexus]

hey, not deep in the modding scene, has anyone made any mods that turn the poker night at the inventory characters into jokers? i think it'd be pretty sick and even came up with this idea for strongbad

[torn crystal]

what is that

[tacit cedar]

Seed analyzer

[hallow locust]

it's a seed analyser

[steel patio]

it's The Soul ofc

[torn crystal]

OOOOOH

nice thanks

[full edge]

turns out that's not as easy as I'd hoped. Gonna mess around a bit more, and maybe see if I can cheat around it with stickers and a custom generate_ui func for the sticker

[umbral pilot]

well I got hired because of my expertise

I've been doing this stuff for a while

[weak nexus]

i think "joker night at the inventory" could be a fun name for the mod

[torn crystal]

what does cards per ante mean?

[hallow locust]

jokers per ante I think

[torn crystal]

still confused

[tacit cedar]

The depth it will go in rerolls

[torn crystal]

is it like the pool of all jokers?

for the seed

[tacit cedar]

Basically it will reroll till then

And check up till that specified number

[torn crystal]

since yall know a lot more about exploring seeds than I do clearly, I'm curious: there's a specific joker that I KNOW is in the pool for this seed, because I've bought it before, but in subsequent runs, I've been unable to find it again. What affects which jokers are offered by the shop, packs, tarots, etc?

[gilded vortex]

Your expertise at selling thunder?

No sorry

[torn crystal]

also for the cards per ante, is this the default?

[gilded vortex]

Storing thunder

My mistake

[hallow locust]

yes

[wind token]

coding balatro mod but its just 5 hours of me sobbing

[torn crystal]

nice thanks

[hallow locust]

increasing the ante amount will not show you any more jokers

[gilded vortex]

Vanilla or modded?

[hallow locust]

You can see that ante 9 and 10 doesn't have jokers

[torn crystal]

the soul github page will at least save me from documenting this manually as I have been lmao

[hallow locust]

it will show vouchers I think

[tacit cedar]

Lies

[torn crystal]

so far I've only been playing vanilla, the only reason I got into modding was to find a mod that will allow me to use savestates to save on time

[hallow locust]

Everytime I've used it, it never gave it jokers past ante 8

Even if I set the ante number to be higher

To be specific, the shop queue doesn't show

[wind token]

why my code saying hi to me

[tacit cedar]

Bro didn't change the number

[tacit cedar]

Hello world is base code no?

[crude summit]

hey guys, I am new here so I wanted to ask where can i ask for help when it comes to encountering an error?

[gilded vortex]

If you only install lovely and DebugPlus, I don’t think it should impact RNG, but keep in mind that SMODS might affect RNG

[wind token]

      local progress = math.min(G.GAME.chips / G.GAME.blind.chips, 1)
      print(progress)

[prisma latch]

wtf

[tacit cedar]

Go back up

[gilded vortex]

As could having other mods

[tacit cedar]

To the top

[wind token]

my code is aware...

[torn crystal]

I have lovely, but for debugplus ill need to venture outside of the modloader lol cuz its not on here

[hallow locust]

I got it now

[umbral pilot]

Thunder is a really bad energy drink brand here

[hallow locust]

The fact you have to manually edit the card per ante lol

[umbral pilot]

I really hope I'm not hawking it haha

[wind token]

get out of my head

[gilded vortex]

Hawking ituaing?

[wind token]

GOD DAMN IT

[umbral pilot]

[tacit cedar]

Hawk Tuah

[wind token]

i hate it here

[hallow locust]

stop

[crude summit]

?

[grand geode]

here

[torn crystal]

question: if you reroll/buy a joker in a previous shop (same ante), will that affect the shop of the next ante? as in, can I try to switch up what joker will become affected by a tag?

[hallow locust]

I'll see you guys in the next life lol

[tacit cedar]

No

[hallow locust]

yes

[tacit cedar]

Doesn't affect next ante

only affects same ante

[toxic cloud]

each ante has a separate queue

[hallow locust]

I misread that

[toxic cloud]

unless you use The Order

[torn crystal]

oh mb I meant next blind

[tacit cedar]

Then yes

[torn crystal]

by missreading it you read it correctly lol cuz I typed it wrong

[crude summit]

Alright

[grand geode]

hollow

[vestal cedar]

Ooo very nice base, functionality above all

[normal hollow]

hi myst

[hallow locust]

I was expecting a house md joke, I'm severally disappointed

[torn crystal]

does it not show the effect of certain cards? for example, from testing I've found that the sigil spectral card in this pack changes all the cards to club suit, but that's not stated anywhere here

[hallow locust]

unfortunately not

[torn crystal]

ah okay

[tacit cedar]

No it doesn't but Balatro Wiki does

[torn crystal]

so those things ill have to personally test

still, will save SO much time

[hallow locust]

it will only show the card but not the outcome of it

[tacit cedar]

Balatro Wiki can tell you it

[torn crystal]

also, does The Soul show card draws?

[tacit cedar]

No

[hallow locust]

nope

[torn crystal]

ah so my documentation on that will still be useful

cuz ive been writing down ideal discards/plays for each game

[grand geode]

hi n

[torn crystal]

like this

some arent finished yet

[hallow locust]

Although the outcome of the cards you use is preordained, you won't know the outcome in the Soul itself

[gilded vortex]

Cute

[half matrix]

WarioWare Gold Switch 2 Joker (what functions did it work)

[hard plank]

?

[hallow locust]

Spend $80

[torn crystal]

yeah I noticed, thats why ive been noting it down

[crude summit]

My list of mods: Bunco, CardSleeves, Cosmos, FusionJokers, HandyBalatro, JokerDisplay, KcVanilla, NeatoJokers, Paperback, Sixsuits (turned off)

So I've encountered an issue with "Camping Trip" joker from "Fusion Jokers" mod where whenever I select any card, the game crashes.
This is the log message i got:

[half matrix]

Most expensive joker?

[torn crystal]

anyways thanks a lot yall ill be able to explore a lot quicker now

[hard plank]

????

[half matrix]

Does anyone know the most expensive joker by far?

[hard plank]

i went to play Minecraft

[gilded vortex]

Wanna hear about my first survival Minecraft house

[hallow locust]

It's a joke. Not sure the function

[hard plank]

I'm trying to play Minecraft 😭😭😭😭

[gilded vortex]

I was paranoid about mobs so the interior was 2 blocks tall and the house was entirely made of slabs and stairs

[normal hollow]

in a mod?

[gilded vortex]

So they couldn’t spawn

[hard plank]

😭😭😭

[half matrix]

Yes

[gilded vortex]

Also full of glass too for that 360° view

[hard plank]

my first dirt hotel

[hallow locust]

Tbh, with the shit Nintendo is pulling off, it should just be a joker than spends $80 and cripples you in debt lol

[hard plank]

i wanted to say i went to play mc i came back to a very different chat

[gilded vortex]

Hey wait it was made out of wood and was in the air

With a staircase leading to it

Every surface that could have a torch had a torch

[normal hollow]

there's one in POLTERWORX that costs 2e100

[half matrix]

Wut?

[hallow locust]

Time to call Elon Musket

[gilded vortex]

There was a $1e300 Joker

Ruby

Ruby prevents you from losing

[half matrix]

How about a function of -$80 in dept

[hard plank]

pretty sure you can't just buy it

[half matrix]

Ooohhh

[hard plank]

and also

it's no longer unconditional

[half matrix]

It's unfair

[hard plank]

no

lmao

it just gives you like some big ^^^^^^mult or something

[gilded vortex]

Unfair to whom

This is a single player game

[half matrix]

You know. The joker price

[torn crystal]

crazy opener for this seed tho

[half matrix]

Chicot and Perkeo are just formal activation and Canio, Yoric and tribuolet are multis

Make sense now

[torn crystal]

what do you mean?

[half matrix]

Legendary Jokers has different abilities and similar powers like multi, disable and add negative

[latent crescent]

Today is a day, I'll try to make working scrollbar implementation

[marble forge]

that white hole aint coming man i am waiting for 11 antes now

[half matrix]

The Needle ran away and hid

[torn crystal]

oh ic ic

[marble forge]

prob

[torn crystal]

yorick especially is insanely powerful

if you try to purposefully max out discards each round

[wind token]

can i get help with this crash, i turned off tailsman and turned it back on but im still getting it

[torn crystal]

I've gotten him to x29 before

[marble forge]

the fact that i only used 8 neutrons makes me think how many normal planet cards i used

[torn crystal]

and then clone it

x900 multi

[half matrix]

Tribuolet, Yoric and Canio are best bros

[torn crystal]

hold on hold on, does The Soul not show the shops in order? or are shop rerolls complete RNG?

[marble forge]

shop rerolls can depend on seed

[half matrix]

Oops All 6 iz so usefull for anything, like 1 in 8 chance can do the same thing

[torn crystal]

cuz I just got jolly and mime in shop, I bought mime, but I want the negative tag to hit shoot the moon, but the reroll just gave me 2 different ones

I thought rerolls affected the next blind's shop

[half matrix]

Is Oops All 6 has activated the discard stuff?

[torn crystal]

how can I somehow fiddle this lineup

no

current jokers

imma do boss blind after negative token and see what I get

[half matrix]

Cryptid Mod is so interesting

[torn crystal]

wait, also, how can you tell what joker judgement will create

[half matrix]

They have weird jokers, and additional features

[half matrix]

I have no idea, sorry

[torn crystal]

dammit it missed

I think the time I got the negative on shoot the moon I must have been using a different deck

imma try using the double tag deck

should get me both jokers at least

[half matrix]

"Shoot the Moon" -Dr Eggman (Sonic Adventure 2)

[torn crystal]

the reason I want to explore this seed so bad is because there is INSANE combo potential in this deck but I've never been able to get all the different parts in the same run

[half matrix]

ALEEB seed joined the chat

[torn crystal]

will try that one later

[half matrix]

That seed has a 100% chance of the Soul

So don't skip blind on the first ante

[torn crystal]

oh nice

the one im using rn has 2 souls first ante lol

[half matrix]

Wow hehe

[torn crystal]

UFPA9PY8 btw if you're curious

[half matrix]

Ok ill try it later

[half matrix]

Is that for the WHAT ante?

[torn crystal]

first ante. skip first blind, soul in arcana pack. play the big blind, buy the big arcana pack, second soul

[torn crystal]

YES I DID IT with the way I optimised playing hands before this, I was finally able to make it so I can afford both without extra discards or extra hands

had to get every blind in a single hand

at last I have them both

now I need midas mask and vampire

oh lmao and from this point The Soul is no longer accurate lmao

cuz of the hieroglyph

welp I suppose we go in blind then

[gray cove]

[torn crystal]

[steel patio]

panasonic blu ray

[torn crystal]

interesting. so, when you lower your ante by one due to hieroglyph, it appears that it creates a new ante that does not appear on The Soul, but one ante later, I'm back on schedule, except the boss that was scheduled for this ante is instead that of the ante after this one

also what does this do?

dammit so the celestial packs ARE out of wack

RIP

the buffoon pack wasnt

ah well

discoveries made along the way

[gray cove]

Uranus

[wind token]

really proud of these so far

cant wait to begin coding them

[torn crystal]

-6$
+50$

a very good deal indeed

[warm swan]

Hey, this keeps happening, no matter what mods I delete.

[torn crystal]

OOOOOH HERE IT IS

IT WAS HIDDEN IN THE OTHER CELESTIAL PACK

LETS GOO

[warm swan]

^

[tacit crescent]

Did you copy the log atleast

[warm swan]

No, I will do that right now.

[livid meadow]

I mean the problem seems to be Pokermon

What happens when you remove that?

[warm swan]

Yeah but it's also said this for 2 other mods that I deleted.

[livid meadow]

Id try disabling all mods

[livid meadow]

If you have no mods enabled and there are still issues then you might need to reinstall smods and/or lovely

[warm swan]

K

[warm swan]

No issues without any mods.

[livid meadow]

Then start reenabling them bit by bit (making sure to reenable dependencies too)

[warm swan]

K

[tacit crescent]

Try disabling feder

First

[warm swan]

K

New error.

I'll paste log in just a sec