⚙・modding-general

[stark shale]

it's a video game

[dreamy abyss]

omg happy birthday in 2 days!!

[hard plank]

yay

lalalalava

[silent thistle]

???

[tropic egret]

this is my new everest

how the hell am i supposed to make an effect for this.

[silent thistle]

yes

[stuck gorge]

happy early birthday

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭😭

[stuck gorge]

anyone have good ideas

[full edge]

doing every bamboo minecraft block seems... daunting, haha

do you have an idea for the base 'bamboo' joker already?

[hard plank]

hi

[full edge]

hai, koyori

[hard plank]

hi

@harsh glacier

[gilded vortex]

hayakoyori

[stark shale]

arrow head

[gilded vortex]

Vicetin

N’xkoo

[hard plank]

hi

did you update the mod

[stark shale]

yes

nothing of significance happened

[hard plank]

i added 8 jokers

[stark shale]

collect my pages

[gilded vortex]

Share

[hard plank]

i truly believe some of them are useful

[hard plank]

at buffet with friend

[gilded vortex]

Eat well

[full edge]

Time to fix more bugs, and tackle individual card weight and proper rarity pools for the genres

[prisma latch]

hey ice and aiko how we feel abt this

[full edge]

Fun

But also, is debuffing cards in any way a positive? Haha

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[harsh glacier]

ungodly fusion

[prisma latch]

when the card is trying to hurt you, yes lol

this is barely a mod atp it might as well be counted as its own gane using balatro as an engine

haya do you want a cameo

im bored and away from computer so im concepting a bunch of stuff

[harsh glacier]

how

[full edge]

what's this mod concept?

a rework of balatro as a fantasy rpg?

[prisma latch]

as a jonkler

now is NOT the time for me to reach an area with no mobile data T_T come onn

[tidal nimbus]

I remember there's a mod that changes the deck selection

[polar oyster]

Hi chat, hi balala people

[harsh glacier]

myeah

[prisma latch]

kinda? its basically replacing the poker aspects with a dungeon crawler card game called scoundrel

[full edge]

in what way?

[tidal nimbus]

It changes this screen

[wanton rapids]

Galdur?

[prisma latch]

you got any uhh gimmicks or smth i can work with
ice has an easy name to adapt lol, and aiko is a wild mage because of all the random stuff they add

[tidal nimbus]

Ah ha

[tidal nimbus]

Bingo

That's what I'm looking for

[polar oyster]

(Will it be balanced if you don't have vocaloid jokers?)
Cover - Rare
Retrigger every played 3 and 9 or vocaloid jokers (aiko, hololatro)

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm

[gilded vortex]

Aiko could be a Minecraft Mage or a Boss Blind Mage

Or just the Polymath Mage

Victin’s Collection

[wanton rapids]

1 week old reply?

[prisma latch]

aiko's wild mage, im more looking for one for haya

[polar oyster]

Mmm

[prisma latch]

also victin and notmario you guys want in on this

[gilded vortex]

Sure

[polar oyster]

I just came up with an idea related to hololive balatro just now.

[gilded vortex]

I’m partial to dark magic and necromancy

[wanton rapids]

sure

[prisma latch]

any rpg class preferences

[wanton rapids]

could do like "Fighting a card equal to your current weapon doesn't set durability"

[prisma latch]

it doesnt have to be a caster. there are so many casters

[wanton rapids]

since that would result in a three of a kind with a standard deck

[gilded vortex]

Omaru Polka
Popopo po po popopo, po po popo popopo

[wanton rapids]

that effect feels rogue-y

[polar oyster]

I will try to add all possible modded jokers related to vtuber and the like.

[gilded vortex]

Muscle Mage

Stealth Mage

[prisma latch]

so, you can beat a card with the same rank as your weapon no matter the durability? Interesting

[tropic egret]

i'm thinking about "growing" stuff

like since bamboo grows fast the bamboo could duplicate itself

[wanton rapids]

anyways demicolon morefluff compat soonish

[gilded vortex]

What’s this wheel

[tropic egret]

they're all b

[gilded vortex]

Yes but where is it sourced from

[polar oyster]

is this joker from a regular cryptid?

[wanton rapids]

it's from the new update

it is exclusive to the "madness" gameset

[polar oyster]

I haven't updated cryptid in ~2-3 months, although there's probably already a lot of new content.

[full edge]

I think that's the way to go, yeah. And from there on it's probably the most interesting option to make all the other bamboo items tie into it, somehow, right? How many bamboo items would be added in total, if you do them all?

[hard plank]

goodbye sengen is good for an average non cryptid run

should be a rare actually

[polar oyster]

Liar dancer have justice?

[full edge]

how does the demicolon compat stuff work, notmario? Does it involve just adding more stuff to the calculate function, or can I work in a separate file for it?

[hard plank]

wrong description

i think i saved the wrong one

[stuck gorge]

teto

[hard plank]

nvm

[tropic egret]

19 iirc

[hard plank]

I'm correct

[harsh minnow]

a new context in calculate

[hard plank]

i didn't read

[gilded vortex]

Aether Portal should ignore 0-weight Editions

[polar oyster]

Emerald does work with the editions price?

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[wanton rapids]

it's just context.forcetrigger

[gilded vortex]

Why are you crying 🤔

[wanton rapids]

and here's how the effects should be(?)

[full edge]

I'm up to add it to Kino, but I'm really not keen on adding a chunk of code to every file that's only there for compat reasons. I might see if I can set up a way to set up a separate file in some way for it 🤔

[polar oyster]

I have 0-weight edition, it's too useless to get comparing how to get it

[gilded vortex]

I was thinking like

Objects that are only meant to exist in specific conditions

[polar oyster]

like multiplayer edition?

[wanton rapids]

adding 1 trillion 0 weight editions to make wheel of fortune! and aether portal useless

[hard plank]

i think so

[gilded vortex]

Although I’ll have 0-weight (Dis)enhancements

[hard plank]

look that one is a placeholder

[gilded vortex]

Like an Edition that assumes another object exists

[hard plank]

😭

[gilded vortex]

But then that object is nil

[tropic egret]

could be nicer to make one big take_ownership file

and say "delete file if no cryptid"

[polar oyster]

I have an edition that costs negatively, best synergy

[gilded vortex]

Mr. Codes
Adds Cryptid compat,
self-destructs

[full edge]

3 too few for it to relate to tarots in some way, that's a shame. I thought it could be fun to have those jokers maybe just spawn if you use a specific tarot card while you own the bamboo joker

[wanton rapids]

also note that it requires demicoloncompat = true in the joker definition

[full edge]

That's definitely managable. I just don't really like any mod compat to be included in the main code in a notable way. It's something I wanna make sure is easy to do for the Kino API as well. Make it so you don't have to edit the main code at all for the crossmod stuff to work

[gilded vortex]

Mr. Jokes
Chat self-destructs

Oh wait it was my internet connection lol

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[gilded vortex]

Mr. Nrio’s message
Self-destructs

[gilded vortex]

but not to the girls

[polar oyster]

Mr. Defend
Protects against self-destruction,
Self destruct

[harsh glacier]

hi girls

[polar oyster]

Hi haya

[gilded vortex]

but not the nb peeps

[harsh glacier]

hi non binary people

[gilded vortex]

We’re just recreating the Little Misters SCP series

[harsh glacier]

victin can i cross mod with your mod

[gilded vortex]

Yes

[harsh glacier]

what should i add

[gilded vortex]

Though I haven’t even added big mechanical changes yet

[polar oyster]

victin can I not do cross mod?

[gilded vortex]

What are those consumables called

[tropic egret]

i'm so happy paya greeted me thrice

proof i'm the favourite /j

[gilded vortex]

Only if you aren’t Roman

[prisma latch]

ughh turns out i left my house way earlier than i needed to and now im gonna be bored out of my mind for 3 hours and i cant even work on my mod :(

[harsh glacier]

you mean the risk cards

[gilded vortex]

Probably

Make one that Raises or creates a Curse Pack idk

-# non-implemented mechanics

[gilded vortex]

-# @polar oyster Romans are known for cross modding people

[harsh glacier]

hacking into victin's computer to get the indev victin's collection version

[gilded vortex]

Haya: “I’m in.”
Haya: “There’s nothing here.”

[polar oyster]

Roman is a name for me, but now I get it.

[gilded vortex]

Indeed Roman is the name of the Roman people

[stark shale]

Nothing Here

like like like

[gilded vortex]

Also I wanted to check your Cyan code for my own evil purposes

(not horses)

(also not DVD bounces)

[stark shale]

brah

[harsh glacier]

its on github

jawdrop

[gilded vortex]

I thought so

[gilded vortex]

:3

[tropic egret]

🤔

[gilded vortex]

I’ll give you a hint

[tropic egret]

i mean, ice, i could add other plants to the pool

[plush hound]

YOU

-4 Mult and -40 Chips
fuck you

[stark shale]

heartbreak

like

like

[hard plank]

have you found the new jokers yet

[stark shale]

if you say that again I'm going to ignore you

[hard plank]

ok

[gilded vortex]

👉

[full edge]

you might get the opposite problem of having way too many, then, no?

[hard plank]

I'm still excited to finally make some jokers

so like

[gilded vortex]

My face cards when my pool is full of plants:

[hard plank]

at least the # of blinds doesn't exceed amount of jokers

[harsh glacier]

you want the sound as well

[full edge]

Though I think there's an argument made for it excluding the fool and the emperor, already. Or, at least, not needing those two to have their own joker 🤔 Maybe hermit and temperance can share one, as well. That way you have 19, and Fool can fuse into the last tarot you used, emperor can pick two random ones, and hermit and temperance can become the same one

[gilded vortex]

Mod concept: Blindtro, a mod that turns each Joker into a Blind

[gilded vortex]

Joker gives -4 Mult

[polar oyster]

Slow discord

[gilded vortex]

The sinful Jokers give -3 Mult for each card of their respective suit

Etc.

[tropic egret]

hmmm . well ignoring the Birch Wood family, we have Bush, Beetroot, Big Dripleaf, and Blue Orchid

and really they haven't exactly added Bush yet .

[gilded vortex]

No but I might want a different sound

[polar oyster]

The Evil - blind
Multiply every joker value by -1

[polar oyster]

Actually balanced blind

[gilded vortex]

Where is it on GitHub

[hard plank]

victin

i will add portal jokers today

[gilded vortex]

aikoyori

[gilded vortex]

What’s their theme

[hard plank]

portal

[gilded vortex]

Aether Portal adds Editions

[hard plank]

as in

[gilded vortex]

Do other Portal cards also manipulate Editions

[hard plank]

no

they fucking move jokers

[wanton rapids]

Portal Gun
Creates a Negative Blue Portal and Orange Portal while held
Jokers between Blue Portal and Orange Portal are scored again in order
Jokers between Orange Portal and Blue Portal are skipped

[harsh glacier]

https://github.com/hayaunderscore/PayasTerribleAdditions/tree/experimental

[hard plank]

also gain xmult per jokers skipped

[wanton rapids]

i was thinking you could just skip joker destruction etc.

[gilded vortex]

None of those are in Minecraft tho :P

[polar oyster]

Green Portal - Uncommon (A reference to the mod that adds 3 portals)
Changes to -1 ante or +1 ante each use (can finish 8 ante blind without final blind)

[jaunty galleon]

how do you get indexed on bmm

[harsh glacier]

fucking minecraft

[hard plank]

if the portal loops then move the jokers

if portal doesn't it skips the ones in between

might help with nameless nadir

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[gilded vortex]

@hard plank oh did you mean Portal Jokers not portal Jokers?

[hard plank]

Portal 2 joker

[gilded vortex]

I can’t search the branch, where is it

[gilded vortex]

Have you seen the YouTube channel explaining portal physics

Also, I feel vindicated that I was right

[polar oyster]

Or was it lime portal, I don't remember, but it was connected to the past and the present

[silent thistle]

Hi guys. It is r e a l.
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1372508275794513962
-# ...don't cheat in multiplayer with it please...

[wanton rapids]

portal reloaded?

[gilded vortex]

Portal portals don’t transmit gravity, and that’s the real physical violation

[gilded vortex]

Not Portal ports physics, just portal physics

They explain how to make 3-way portals or Möbius portals etc.

[polar oyster]

yep (Lime portal)

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah that channel

[hard plank]

yes

[gilded vortex]

That channel is so cool

[harsh glacier]

https://github.com/hayaunderscore/PayasTerribleAdditions/blob/experimental/content/jokers/legendary/cyan.lua 😭

github search fucking sucks

[polar oyster]

Is this a video that's about multiple portals? (~31)

[gilded vortex]

I had already found it but I have a question

Did you need to use update

Couldn’t you’ve done everything inside draw

[gilded vortex]

They have multiple videos, including 3-way portals, Möbius portals, self-portals, etc., as I had said

[harsh glacier]

draw would mean the funny would be tied to the framerate and i don't like that

[edgy mortar]

is there a mod that allows me to reroll seeds to start with certain jokers?

[plush hound]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1372508275794513962

wake up, they released Megahack

[gilded vortex]

Also don’t put stuff in card.ability without your mod’s key

[polar oyster]

I just remember there was a video from a Russian-speaking man who talked about 31 portals, where he talked about the Physics model and all that... like 1.5 d (or something like that, I don't remember)

[hard plank]

I've started adding my mod prefix to card abilities for some time

unless it's in the joker itself

[gilded vortex]

Sounds similar

[gilded vortex]

The Arale Aikoyori versus the Vegeta haya

[harsh glacier]

they're all in extra though ?

unless you mean immutable

thats a cryptid thing

[plush hound]

mother of god

[hard plank]

haya who is Plana

[harsh glacier]

so that cryptid doesn't inadvertently affect cyan's position

[gilded vortex]

Yes I do mean immutable

I mean, that’s bad coding practice on Cryptid’s end

[grand geode]

nobody would use card.ability.little_red_prey right

[stark shale]

what if

[gilded vortex]

I had already spoken to MathIsFun about some of them

[stark shale]

rhythm heaven remix reqsue boss rush

[gilded vortex]

Person making L Corp mod:

[hard plank]

did you sleep last night

[stark shale]

yes

[harsh glacier]

also wtf 300 manga taken off mangadex via dmca

[gilded vortex]

@harsh glacier how much physics simulation do you know

[stuck gorge]

i really like this

[hard plank]

i don't know physics simulation

i hate physics

[harsh glacier]

not a lot 😭

[stark shale]

did someone ever made a bossrush challenge

[stuck gorge]

anyways i need yall opinions if these horse joker effects are well enough for hrt joker

[harsh glacier]

i was gonna add an entire fucking collision library but i only really needed collision for the fucking card borders so i just didn't do that

[gilded vortex]

I need some physics simulation for the Joker I want to make, but I’m a little lazy about it

[stuck gorge]

seems kinda fun

[gilded vortex]

No need to worry about collisions though

[hard plank]

@fossil palm

[harsh glacier]

the annoying thing is mapping to balatro units™

[stark shale]

fearsome fate will be an awesome ahead joker

[harsh glacier]

they're weird

[full edge]

god the more I learn about how to make jokers properly compatible with cryptid, the less enthused I am about doing any of the set up for it

[gilded vortex]

Yes @round ore

[polar oyster]

Fearsome>Jovial?

[harsh glacier]

i mean unless you need demicolon support you don't really need to do anything at all

[gilded vortex]

I had a Joker that mapped to Balatro units

[stuck gorge]

you'll have to make the hrt joker negative to unlock the nightmares

[hard plank]

hi

[wraith seal]

does spairs exist

[gilded vortex]

Another Jovial Joker 👀

[wanton rapids]

considering i have crossmod with entropy i kind of need demicolon support

[stark shale]

this sucks

[stuck gorge]

possibly

[hard plank]

fuck

i forgot what i added

[polar oyster]

Some cards are nice (bulletn should be on spade cards)

[gilded vortex]

@harsh glacier do you have my mod

[harsh glacier]

not yet

[full edge]

I think before I actually commit to any cryptid stuff, I'm going to see if I can just set up some way to do an alternate system for it, because I really don't wanna clutter my own code with a lot of things that exist only for compatibility

[gilded vortex]

Look at my avatar 👀

[full edge]

but that immutable table looks... annoying

[harsh glacier]

do you need your jokers to not be affected by oil lamp

[gilded vortex]

I can show you some yet unused effect I have

[hard plank]

hi

should space elevator be affected by oil lamp

it would be so funny

[stuck gorge]

peak

[stark shale]

will you

[stuck gorge]

maybe

that makes sense

[harsh glacier]

SPADES GRAAHHHHH

[hard plank]

i think it's actually pretty hard to reach phase 6

[full edge]

some of them, definitely. There's certain ones that would break. Or, you know, break specifically in nonfun ways that make them unusable, rather than crashing the game

[stark shale]

we ahead

[hard plank]

the requirement scales from 10phase-15phase

so you'll have to play around 60-90 of certain cards

[stuck gorge]

how does oil lamp work btw does it just check all values of a joker and check to see if they are numbered variables

[harsh glacier]

that is exactly what it does

[stuck gorge]

cool

[harsh glacier]

misprint deck also uses the same logic

[hard plank]

i think it just use misprintize function Cryptid has

[polar oyster]

it would be better if there was a list like [talisman-aura-sigil-grum-talisman- soul], so that you can see what will appear?

[full edge]

I might see if I can hijack the misprinterize function in some way, and have it use the Kino power changer functionality for Kino jokers. That'd save me a big headache

[stuck gorge]

do patches that also come from another mod clash and cause a problem btw

[harsh glacier]

depends on the patch you're doing

[harsh glacier]

The trusty Lua hook™

[stuck gorge]

staring at the patch that allows to limit played scores

[harsh glacier]

the almighty cryptid cry_cap_score

[full edge]

It helps that I've already set up each variable and everything. I'll have to check if it's not gonna create bignum everything issues, though

[gilded vortex]

Her effect is to create a Talisman when you skip a Blind

[hard plank]

hi haya

[harsh glacier]

hi aikoyori

when are you gonna add cross mod with my mod

[stuck gorge]

peak

[gilded vortex]

:3

[hard plank]

soon

i already have your mod installed

I've been focusing on making 10 jokers

[grand geode]

sob

[hard plank]

yesterday

hello myst

[gilded vortex]

Fearsome Fate’s effect is to have a chance to create Temporary Negative copies of scoring cards with a Seal

[grand geode]

i just copied The Tax without changing anything because if i did, one of the mods will be incompatible

[stuck gorge]

forgetting i can't send gifs

[gilded vortex]

So not only it brings cards back, but it brings back the original Gold Seal mechanic (kinda)

[stuck gorge]

i have to play my mod with cryptid on tbh i'll check on that later

i made like a funny patch that allows me to trigger things even before cards are counted into play

[harsh glacier]

i never test my mod with just my mod as the sole mod meaning its very unstable

[wanton rapids]

yeah that's a somewhat common patch

i use that for the tetration jokers in morefluff

[arctic solar]

Help, how to affect default_weight via joker?

[stuck gorge]

i'll brb on the mod testing i'll be at the pool

[sand delta]

vibe

[harsh glacier]

i have a context patch to add another before context to before

[stark shale]

bwaaaaaa

[hard plank]

wtf half life 3

:3

[harsh glacier]

just so that revo's printer seal properly copies a card turned into a queen by regina

[sand delta]

death

[harsh glacier]

and world of spades turning that into a spade card

[jaunty galleon]

me likey aphex twin...

[full edge]

use the add_to_deck and remove_from_deck functions jokers have for that!

[silent thistle]

errr

[sand delta]

xtal fits as a legendary joker imo

[silent thistle]

new version has the pips removed

[arctic solar]

I have:
rarity = exalted
default_weight = 0,001
I want when j1 appears that default_weight = 0,5 for example

[full edge]

When it appears? As in, even if it's in the shop and you don't buy it?

[plush hound]

pips?

[arctic solar]

When in your hand

[full edge]

There's not really a moment when a jack is in your hand and jokers have a relevant spawn rate

Or do you mean that when you own a specific joker, the chances of an exalted joker spawning are higher?

[arctic solar]

Yeah, that's exactly what I need.

[hard plank]

I'm sorry

[full edge]

You can set a rarity's weight. What you wanna do is set it to 0.5 when you obtain the joker (through add_to_deck)

[wraith seal]

all the sorting options work now

[plush hound]

QAIR FOR WHAT

[full edge]

I don't know the exact details of how it works for modded rarities, but I assume decently similar to vanilla ones

[wraith seal]

time to add the name search option

[full edge]

You can check the code from #1353866504743161886 to see how I do it for the vanilla ones.

[arctic solar]

Okay, how do I do that?

[arctic solar]

It's kind of complicated for me😀

[winged prism]

How do I word that better ("changing ante" is ante going up/down)

[wanton rapids]

egg powercreep?

[winged prism]

I mean, technically unless you get your ante down (which doesn't happen a lot) it's +- the same value

[jaunty galleon]

or unless you skip at all

[wanton rapids]

also skips

[winged prism]

Ah yeah, that too I guess

[jaunty galleon]

also i just dropped the first release of my mod https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1334717157098913833 if anyone was looking for a new thing to add to their 40 mod long list. probably incompatible with talisman idk go tell me

[gilded vortex]

Why not make it work when defeating a Boss Blind?

[winged prism]

Specifically for antes going down

[jaunty galleon]

they want it to trigger with petro/heiro

[gilded vortex]

But why make it symergize with that?

[supple flicker]

Does anyone knows how to fix this on Macos? Tried to get brainstorm working

[winged prism]

Because R1999 reference

[lean dagger]

yep, reinstalled everything (the game, both Lovely/Steamodded and the mods)
i still get some crashes but i guess it's the price of playing on antimatter deck

[plush hound]

on it

[solar sandal]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1372391911951831182 does a mod like/similar to this exist at all?

[full edge]

Depends on how you wanna do it. Debugplus definitely allows for it, but it's not a nice ui set up for it, and would involve you altering your deck as you receive cards

[tropic egret]

actual hm

[silent thistle]

The white dots

[tropic egret]

wait hand_chips and mult probably are stored in G. anyway

[full edge]

In doing runs trying to figure out how to better balance Kino, I'm discovering that it's very difficult to make jokers that don't benefit High Card disproportionally

[jaunty galleon]

this is why you balance them with "X cards give Y" Jokers like Arrowhead and ones that specifically benefit high-card hands, like this

𝓖𝓪𝓶𝓮 𝓓𝓮𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓰 is my passion ...

[full edge]

It's not that it's hard to avoid things that explicitely target high card builds. It's just that a lot of things that are more generic affect it disproportionally

[normal hollow]

im going to get rid of high card and flush

if you play those you get no chips

[jaunty galleon]

tbf that is a problem in basegame too

i think it's a more fundamental issue with the game, which is that over the course of 8 antes you need a consistent play, and the most consistent play is to play one card

[full edge]

yes, but the basegame's got the benefit of getting the simple jokers out of the way, haha. High card synergies do tend to get strongest in endless runs, I find, as they're often too inconsistent early on in vanilla

[jaunty galleon]

idk if you're running a hand-agnostic build it's easiest to just throw a high card out and be done with it

[solar sandal]

what i was more thinking of was like a screen before runs where you can set what things you start with

[full edge]

It's definitely also a skill issue on my part, but I don't tend to be able to get those off the ground on the higher stakes all that often

[full edge]

Not a full custom deck select, sadly. debugplus is good enough, I reckon for the jokers, but there's not a galdur-like mod yet that I'm aware of for a full customizable start

[jaunty galleon]

i just play whatever build the game nudges me into in the first few antes lol, game's more fun that way

[tropic egret]

wrong incorrect buzzer 😔

[full edge]

i do too, it's just that whenever I think I can see a good high card build pop up, it's often me just not being skilled enough to make it work, haha. In vanilla, at least

In playtesting Kino, high card builds are a lot stronger due to a lot of card upgrade effects and retrigger effects existing

[jaunty galleon]

i have retrigs but i think mine have better synergy with 5-card builds

like Boing Ball (1 in 4 chance to retrigger scored cards)

this would be awful on hc

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

whats balance

[jaunty galleon]

when you can stand on one leg for a bit and not fall over

[normal hollow]

if you return balance = true you get the plasma effect

[full edge]

I've got Up, which retriggers your highest scoring card twice, and Thor, which retriggers a random scoring card twice, which are both at common, and eh, they're definitely a bit too strong when playing high card builds due to that, haha. Though the sole reason for that is just that the more access you have to retrigger cards, the easier it becomes to break things. So part of the problem there is either rarity, or them being in too small a pool

Because ideally, they're both sidegrades to chad

Also, I think I've made the issue of adding a theoritically infinitely scaling retrigger provider, haha

it's very strong with any glass card

[harsh glacier]

hanging chad but it retriggers 1 billion times

[jaunty galleon]

this is just cryptid

[full edge]

Hustle retriggers once for every $10 you have. Which in vanilla is rarely gonna be an insane number, but I've made too many viable econ jokers, haha

[jaunty galleon]

just add a (Max 5) on it or something

[harsh glacier]

the 1e300 money

[full edge]

I don't love capping things. Ideally, I want the cap to be set naturally by the mechanics

(though I might set a mod-wide retrigger cap at 25 just for performance's sake)

[sand delta]

it's cool seeing them all in here

is there any way to sort the order in which they show

[stone geode]

oi is there a way to mod on xbox pc?

[full edge]

not yet, sorry. Gamepass modding is being worked on, though

[stone geode]

nah not xbox, but the pc version

[wanton rapids]

xbox pc is not compatible yet

[stone geode]

alr

[wanton rapids]

for all purposes xbox pc is the gamepass version

[gilded vortex]

Yeah

[full edge]

I think strmnn has a way to do it more dynamically that he's working on in with #1368566370769571990, but otherwise you can do what ortalab does (which I personally like, so I also use it in Kino), which is make a separate list that you use to load in the cards in the order you want them in

[jaunty galleon]

holy stromboli is that a "Pink Floyd's the Wall" reference?!!?!?!?!?!?

[harsh glacier]

where is weird al

[sand delta]

like this one

[wanton rapids]

fluff also does this

[gilded vortex]

“Help me I’m trapped”

[sand delta]

if we finish all these jokers so far we may consider adding more

[full edge]

also, can I ask, did you decide to change the album titles to joker based on Kino? Great album picks, btw

[jaunty galleon]

lol i also just noticed the white album one

[sand delta]

i was basically doing it from the beginning because it makes the most sense

[full edge]

yeah, for sure

[vernal hare]

this is what my 2 retrigger jokers look like negative

[full edge]

same reason I also do it like that for the movie posters

[harsh glacier]

i personally put them in separate folders for each rarity then load them alphabetically from there

[sand delta]

also i spent 2 hours downscaling my jokers from 142 x 190 to 71 x 95 today

so thankfully they're fixed now

[harsh glacier]

i was originally intending to have around 5 jokers per rarity but ig im making 10 per rarity now lmao

i want it to be organized™

[gilded vortex]

I was thinking of splitting mine into folders, but I wasn’t sure how to do it

[vernal hare]

i should sort by rarity

[harsh glacier]

the humble NFS.getDirectoryItems

[gilded vortex]

Not what I meant

[vernal hare]

im already loading my ancient tier jokers first

[gilded vortex]

I meant which folders to build

[jaunty galleon]

vanilla has disproportionally less rares, which is how i'm doing it

[full edge]

what's the name of the mod, btw? do y'all have a thread for it?

[harsh glacier]

my mod originally had barely any commons and uncommons

😭

[sand delta]

no thread because she's only coded 4 jokers so far

[jaunty galleon]

idk i like designing uncommons the most lol

[sand delta]

we're calling it albumtro for now

[vernal hare]

adjusted my wording here

[harsh glacier]

almost all of them were just rares lmao

[full edge]

general card game rule is decently sized common pool, slightly bigger uncommon pool, small rare pool

[sand delta]

should i make a thread for it do you think

[full edge]

rare pools work better if they're sligthly smaller because there's already inconsistency due to the rarity

[vernal hare]

im making an uncommon retrigger joker that adds extra risk, making certain things harder to play

[full edge]

i'd make a thread once it's playable. or if you just want a place to post updates. But a thread's mainly used by people to post crash logs or ask questions, unless you get people to start suggesting jokers, haha

[sand delta]

will probably make one when enough jokers are in

[jaunty galleon]

i would like to suggest musique as a name

[vernal hare]

so the trade off is

• easier to get,

BUT

• makes your whole run harder if you dont play right

[harsh glacier]

i was debating to move multiplier to rare due to the effect of turning +mult to xmult and +chips to xchips but honestly i think the added chance required just makes it a fair uncommon

[full edge]

I think I might the Kino thread when there were like 40, but I think my sense of scale of what a reasonable amount of jokers is is just fucked, haha

[jaunty galleon]

i made my thread like immediately and then thought it got auto-deleted so i stopped working on the mod for a few months (Oops!)

[prisma latch]

i wish bmm showed how many downloads a mod has, i wanna see how many people are using gambling is magic..

[full edge]

also, should add that this logic's a bit tighter in card games where you can have multiple copies of a card, because there consistency in commons is a bit more helpful. But uncommon is the best place for variety, still, in my opinion

[harsh glacier]

-1

i should probably move mr seal to uncommon or even common

all it does is retrigger a card with a seal once

[jaunty galleon]

i agree with this, and also seeing a situational uncommon is a lot less annoying that seeing a situational rare pop up

[harsh glacier]

actually why am i even talking about balance in my mod

i have a fucking common that gives x20 mult

[prisma latch]

A what now

[harsh glacier]

with a chance of x0 so you lose everything

free gambling

[jaunty galleon]

i have this but worse and an uncommon

[full edge]

I'm also a huge fan of in_pooling a lot of modded content, to keep pools a bit more consistent, haha. I think in my case, every card that benefits from a specific mechanic being used only starts spawning once you've actually interacted with it

[wise plinth]

can someone please help me fix this

[full edge]

except that my booster packs don't respect in_pool yet, but that's being worked on

[prisma latch]

balancing Rascal is going to be an absolute nightmare

[round ore]

whenever i get a ping in this channel it's scary. yes i made one where every regular blind is the wall and every boss is vessel

[prisma latch]

cause i cant even follow normal balatro balancing

like as far as im aware half my blind ideas are actively easier than small blind rn

[dreamy abyss]

finity!vv eating good tonight

[plush hound]

does this looks okay to you

[wraith seal]

hanging bud

[plush hound]

not the chad

ghhh

[full edge]

was there a way to have an enhancement give +chips automatically, without it popping up that 'extra chips' localization?

[jaunty galleon]

balancing is Easy!* my golden rule is for jokers that are similar, there shouldn't be an option that is better in almost every scenario

replied to the wrong message

oops!

[full edge]

agreed, still 😛

[plush hound]

how the FUCK do you fit them all in

ghghghghghghghg

[harsh glacier]

was a good call to make dos cards be a toggle to show the card area

basically every spot on the screen is taken LMAO

[normal hollow]

get a wider screen

[exotic belfry]

That’s the neat part
You don’t!

[plush hound]

im moving the deck

[full edge]

the cardarea carousel's needed asap

[exotic belfry]

Nyoom

[stark shale]

you shouve just

you know

move it down

[plush hound]

hiding it???

[stark shale]

no

make it cut offscreen but visible enough to open deck

[exotic belfry]

If I were better at UI I would totally make a mod that lets you cycle through custom card areas

[sand delta]

this is gonna be fun if you find it

[jaunty galleon]

does this work with xmult_mod cards like canio or yorick

[wraith seal]

does that make jokers that r supposed to be negative beneficial, like X0.8 Mult?

[sand delta]

ideally if it would be made then yes

[sand delta]

sure

[prisma latch]

i dont have to worry aboyt this with rascal because if someone tries to download a content mod that adds more areas they will simply crash the game

[plush hound]

i guess this works

[full edge]

I think I've nerfed most of the stuff that makes it too easy to break the game with. Time to focus on the rarity being respected by special boosters

[sand delta]

what is the text styling for the (ex:) part of shortcut

[wanton rapids]

@prisma latch 1.5.5 will fix that issue you had

and you may suffer once more

[plush hound]

@harsh glacier how do you gain DOS cards PLS

[harsh glacier]

you get them from shoppe

they cost yen

[normal hollow]

{C:inactive} im pretty sure

[harsh glacier]

i should probably fix the fact that you can't get rid of them

as in you can't sell them lmao

[plush hound]

where

[prisma latch]

Dear god

[sand delta]

thanks

[prisma latch]

Cardless challenge lives on

[jaunty galleon]

i had an idea for how to balance vanilla cards that i think are unfixable by just adding more synergies to the game (like obelisk, flower pot, blackboard), and that's basically to make risk of rain 2 void items in balatro (shattered cards)
have them appear in shops if you own the base card. if you buy them the game deletes the original card. you hold on to jokers you otherwise wouldn't want because you want their shattered variant
also maybe a spectral that shatters a random eligible joker

[harsh glacier]

just keep rerolling lmao

[wanton rapids]

obelisk flowerpot and blackboard are fine though?

[harsh glacier]

they appear on the shop like any consumable

[wanton rapids]

though void items would be cool

[harsh glacier]

there's two of them

[jaunty galleon]

cards that i think are kind of bad, plus the shattered jokers wouldn't be a straight upgrade

[wraith seal]

i get the blackboard and obelisk support, but why flower pot 😭

[jaunty galleon]

i think there's jokers that are weak in basegame but just need more good synergies (prime example for me is splash)

[plush hound]

i still found this joker hilarious

[harsh glacier]

insert roffle lite speech bubble image

[full edge]

splash is one of those jokers that's a lot stronger in some mods just due to the kind of stuff mods like to do

[wanton rapids]

i like flower pot

[wraith seal]

obelisk isnt exactly weak, just that it demands you to have your run entirely surrounding its mechanics

and so is blackboard, and honestly - blackboard is just a better flower pot due to being much easier to get its effect going imo

[plush hound]

this feels really vanilla honestly

[prisma latch]

Sadly it does kill broken record and any pther unsciring card based jokers

Honestly i think broken record might be my favourite joker ive designed

[vernal hare]

wip booster pack

[harsh glacier]

what are y'alls favorite jokers that yall made

[jaunty galleon]

yeah i agree, that makes picking them up unviable in almost every run. i think i had a good blackboard run once maybe?

[wraith seal]

playing a card of each suit condition is almost similar to straights, as you need to get four different suits to get the X3 mult, and i think we can at least collectively agree that straight builds are just hard to use in balatro

[prisma latch]

You'll never guess

[jaunty galleon]

(also idk if this is a hot take but ride the bus is a D/F-tier card, even in abandoned it's kind of weak)

[harsh glacier]

is Joker good

[wraith seal]

ride the bus is fine, you can get its +mult going pretty fast

[stark shale]

i only made reskin of tarot

brah

[wraith seal]

though that also means you will have worse econ, since you want to use more of your hands to get the joker's scaling going

econ is not that important in lower stakes, but gold stakes do demand heavy econ efficiency, so ride a bus's strength does depend on stakes too, i guess

[plush hound]

the amoutn of cats

in this mod

[jaunty galleon]

in terms of jokers i've implemented into the game, i like this one the most

[wraith seal]

they dont even have their borders properly done 😭

[harsh glacier]

this feels like an amiga reference

maybe it is

[jaunty galleon]

it's the most explicit amiga reference i could have possibly made lol

[tropic egret]

how doth one prevent -chips

[harsh glacier]

uhhhhh

[tropic egret]

specifically in boss blinds

[harsh glacier]

cap hand_chips i guess

[prisma latch]

Im just a big fan of broken record cause i think its my most creative and thematically on point effect, and the art is peak

[harsh glacier]

hand_chips = math.max(hand_chips, 0)

or smth

[tropic egret]

i can't modify hand_chips in modify_hand

[wraith seal]

did you freaking absorb your entire mod's name???

[tropic egret]

because it takes hand_chips as an argument

for some unknown reason idk why you'd do that

[harsh glacier]

just. rename the variable lmao

[tropic egret]

oh no i've done that too

you have to return hand_chips specifically

[jaunty galleon]

actually should i make this 1 in 2 chance? this means it retriggers every played card if you have oa6 but that already exists in base game (s&b with pareidolia)

[prisma latch]

Incredibly stupid idea. So by rascal's theming, ante 0 would be floor 0 which would be. Out of the dungeon
So. I could implement a genocide route in my mod

[jaunty galleon]

i fell from the light

[harsh glacier]

talk or should i fight

[vernal hare]

monster genocide

[grand geode]

stray pixel

[prisma latch]

This my undertale

[grand geode]

kills you

[harsh glacier]

MYST

[vernal hare]

the humble 'cursor in screenshot':

[grand geode]

that's the cursor ??

[vernal hare]

yes

since its on the canvas it appears as a pixel

[harsh glacier]

yall what do we think of this card art

[prisma latch]

:)

[jaunty galleon]

:(

[plush hound]

:3

[harsh glacier]

die

[prisma latch]

:3

[stark shale]

colon zero

[cerulean temple]

Im trying cryptid for the first time

[prisma latch]

im sorry for your loss

[cerulean temple]

What is ts 🥀

[jaunty galleon]

i'm sorry for your I II Ii I_

[plush hound]

ya sure that's crypdi

[hard plank]

white hole moment i guess

[hard plank]

I'm so sorry

[plush hound]

FOR WHAT THO

[exotic dagger]

for having to experience cryptid i'm guessing

[hard plank]

lagging the game

[harsh glacier]

still better than experiencing the mod formerly known as jen's almanac

[wanton rapids]

crossmod graph real(?)

[exotic dagger]

it has a different name now?

[harsh glacier]

unfortunately

[vernal hare]

the mod formerly known as

[exotic dagger]

what's it called now then

[wraith seal]

polterworx

[jaunty galleon]

polterworx is kind of a fire name icl

[exotic dagger]

good, i know to avoid that one then

[jaunty galleon]

i'm not a fan of the mod itself but i like the name

[plush hound]

Gutworx

[harsh glacier]

it is but like considering that jen's almanac is a house hold name at this point changing it would suck

[plush hound]

its not your fault bro 😭

[plush hound]

it's like changing the name of an iconic things

like for example

[stark shale]

can we make the biggest crossmod graph

[plush hound]

Gulf of Mexico

to

[wraith seal]

didnt the wiki already make one

[plush hound]

oh wait they did change it to Gulf of America

[stark shale]

the whsat

[plush hound]

there's already one

[wraith seal]

i remember morefluff man sending it here before

[stark shale]

where

[plush hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1371163025494769744/image-5.png?ex=6826bfd4&is=68256e54&hm=a09590638b3a5c1f10a645fce938b66acfa798067b9a505e52c5f785f0d4e9ae&

[wanton rapids]

that one was done by hand by oinite and is slightly out of date

[plush hound]

because MF no longer compat with PWX

[wraith seal]

i feel like having text added next to the icons with the uncommon jokers would be nice

[wanton rapids]

and other compat exists

[storm forum]

I bet the updated one will pull more of my compat from https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/TOGA's_Stuff/Ore_Dictionary ...

[full edge]

what is the printer icon? Is that Rev's?

[storm forum]

Ye.

[vernal hare]

america did

it’s disputed

[wanton rapids]

the new one will hopefully be a bit easier to update as it will be generated from a text based description

[vernal hare]

bleh

[wanton rapids]

morefluff | img/morefluff.png
cardsleeves | img/cardsleeves.png
cryptid | img/cryptid.png

===

cryptid > | cardsleeves -
morefluff > | cardsleeves -
morefluff > | cryptid -

like this

[stark shale]

the crossgame mod had.... cross mod with reverse crossgame mod?

[harsh glacier]

revo has cross mod with almost everything

[vernal hare]

i need to make a mod icon

[harsh glacier]

mostly printer related

[sand delta]

i swear i am sisyphus finally understanding how pixel art smoothing works

[wanton rapids]

that one's mod compat for archipelago

[stark shale]

ok what the fuck does ortalab crossmod with

[harsh glacier]

pixel smoothing SUCKS

bilinear filters.....

[sand delta]

should i export upscaled with nearest neighbour or use the high resolution versions of the jokers that ive already made

[jaunty galleon]

SO TRUE...

[stark shale]

too bad I'm forced to use pixel smoothie

game crash everytime I try to disable it

[sand delta]

ex. should i upscale first image for pixel art smoothing or just use second

[harsh glacier]

uncanny mixels

do the former

[jaunty galleon]

the loathsome mixels

[vernal hare]

i should make a frums joker

[plush hound]

i figured there's no name

[plush hound]

Wavetapper Jokers

[harsh glacier]

PLEASE

[jaunty galleon]

HELLO? BASED DEPARTMENT?

actually i might beat you to the punch and make a metacontinues joker tee hee

[harsh glacier]

t+pazolite joker

[vernal hare]

no fair :(

[vernal hare]

i love t+pazolite

[plush hound]

https://youtu.be/EOTAWLaDa58?si=QC_N4u2wK9ASO5Cw

[tropic egret]

it's in _G.hand_chips which makes sense

[stark shale]

it suck to be fixated in 2 things

[vernal hare]

tbf for this i just used the aseprite text tool with a good looking font

then i outlined it

aseprite outline tool makes the world go round

[stark shale]

seems lacking

[jaunty galleon]

the obvious choice, but i feel like from title alone XNOR XNOR XNOR and halved halved halved could make for good joker concepts

[vernal hare]

maybe because it doesn’t have the shader on it

i haven’t put it in game yet

and it’s not even done either

i’m still making 2 more, then going in and cleaning up

i was just working on designs

[jaunty galleon]

the kerning on the Ritual Pack font is all over the place tbh

[lean dagger]

hey, i have a bug where i get the flames sound effect even after finishing the round, and the glitched chips and mult count as well. has anyone got a fix? thanks in advance

[stark shale]

you got the naneinf

[jaunty galleon]

yeah do you have talisman config'd correctly?

[plush hound]

Wavetapper Jokers

i NEED it

[harsh glacier]

should i add grab bag cross mod

[vernal hare]

i’m gonna make wavetapper into jokers

[harsh glacier]

what would the japanese cube do

[jaunty galleon]

i don't even know what i have so far that warrants crossmod lol

[wraith seal]

i got searching working

[jaunty galleon]

if you have any ideas though go for it

[harsh glacier]

chat what do we think of this latest joker lineup

[jaunty galleon]

max headroom mentioned

[plush hound]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_GQmgVcDeIA?si=h2ZKnV2sPRnvK6qr

can someone mod this

[full edge]

Adding rarity into the pool system's not as easy as I wanted it to be

oof

[lean dagger]

if you mean that then yes

[jaunty galleon]

no idea then

[harsh glacier]

that's normal

grab cartomancer

[velvet bronze]

what would be the most efficient context for checking how many of X cards are in the deck?

[desert hazel]

can i ask what are some good mods to play with to help me get used to modded balatro ?

[velvet bronze]

#1358478527934103572

:))

[stark shale]

do no5

[harsh glacier]

nice shill

[wraith seal]

wrong channel, but also, it depends

[harsh glacier]

i will also shill my own mod

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1358990385799757884

[jaunty galleon]

ooh! me too me too! https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1334717157098913833

[desert hazel]

how do i get mods that arent on the mod manager

[wraith seal]

download them, put them in %appdata%/Balatro/Mods

[jaunty galleon]

you can download them fro mgithub and put them in your Mods folder

[wraith seal]

also

#1368169102103019610

[jaunty galleon]

there's a button to take you to it on bmm i think

[wraith seal]

if you are interested in rougelite content in balala

[velvet bronze]

...

[wraith seal]

^

what are you trying to do

[velvet bronze]

oh shit i thought this was dev lmao

[desert hazel]

and when i run the mod manager will they also be run along side it?

[jaunty galleon]

yeah, you can't enable or disable them through bmm but you can in-game

[desert hazel]

right ill try add some now ig

watch me break everything

[desert hazel]

do i need to download everything from this

also i dont have no mods folder

[wraith seal]

no, just press code -> download zip

and inside the rar file, put the folder inside Mods folder

[jaunty galleon]

must... must put this in mod... must...

i wanna make a music selector like cardsauce but that sounds complicated : (

[wraith seal]

not as complicated as you think

its all about priority stuff

[sand delta]

would "this joker gains +4 mult for each discarded [rank] this round, changes rank every round (currently +0 mult)" use mult_gain or mult_mod

[jaunty galleon]

mult_mod

[sand delta]

thx

[wraith seal]

when the condition is met, the music will be replaced with this, current duration remains the same

the return math.huge is basically: the music track with the higher priority number will be played, i think

[jaunty galleon]

hmm

and what if i had a whole set of music tracks to replace vanilla's

[wraith seal]

have the if statements right

[full edge]

is there any reason to use mult_mod in your config, over mult_gain? Do they have different implications?

[jaunty galleon]

unsure tbh

i HOPE that everyone's using _mod otherwise making one of my jokers compat is gonna be a pain in the ass

[harsh glacier]

i personally just name them something like add_mult or just add

so uhhh :3

[hard plank]

fym not my fault I literally coded my own mod

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori

[full edge]

I definitely do not use _mod, that's for sure

[jaunty galleon]

D:

no!! don't make me actually have to code in lua!! nooooooo

[plush hound]

you know what fine

$5 and you're forgiven

[harsh glacier]

nxkoo

[plush hound]

im taking high risk here

[hard plank]

ok

[plush hound]

pyrox

[full edge]

Part of the issue there is that I also have certain jokers that have certain factors of scaling

[hard plank]

PayPal

[harsh glacier]

are you gonna pay for the pizza you deliveted

[plush hound]

mmmm..

pizza..

[plush hound]

nxkoo7

im joking

you guys should check out D++

[stark shale]

i will order 50 jilbee wing to aikotoei

[full edge]

Also, damn, adding rarity to pools is eh, whacky. I think I might have to redo the way I've set up every single joker to make it so I don't have to do really complicated and bodged together code

[harsh glacier]

hi ice

[normal hollow]

hice

[harsh glacier]

i sometimes go to my fridge and take ice cubes to just munch on them like a lunatic

is that normal

behavior

[normal hollow]

my mom does that so i cant comment on the sanity of the action

[jaunty galleon]

i do that too, so no, it's not normal

[plush hound]

im gently sucking on it sometimes

[gentle citrus]

Hey got a good question

[plush hound]

idk how to word it better

help me

[plush hound]

shoot

[gentle citrus]

I know for me I've been learning about GMS and everything, but on another hand, how is it possible to like add more shadertoy shaders and how it would be adapted to cards?

Like

what if you apply the jpeg shader on one of them?

or VHS?

[jaunty galleon]

you know who ELSE is gently sucking on it sometimes?

[plush hound]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1371212149908836472

[plush hound]

i will end you gruesomely

[harsh glacier]

the problem about putting a jpeg shader is most of them are multipass

[gentle citrus]

ah.

[harsh glacier]

which are a pain to transcribe in single pass glsl

[gentle citrus]

Yeah that's the issue I see.

I mean most jpegs actually are multiplass

but

there's one Ifound

let me find it

[plush hound]

do i look like i know what a JPEG is

[jaunty galleon]

bobby what's a shader

[harsh glacier]

PLEASE I've been looking for a proper jpeg shader for xX_rainbow_Xx for a while now

[full edge]

I can't say their name without tagging them, so I guess I have to, but there's some pretty amazing shader stuff out there by @brisk trail

[gentle citrus]

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/McdSzl

this shader was the only one that is a single pass.

except

[plush hound]

that mf is CRACKED

he ported alot of shadertoy shaders

[jaunty galleon]

crusty edition yo

[gentle citrus]

I tried to port this shader to GMS at the time or such but it didn't work out.

but I have no idea if like

balatro can accept this shader too

or not

[full edge]

Ah fuck, I think I've goofed up by not considering the way rarity works way earlier. I'm gonna have to see if I can find a way to convert a genre into a pool properly, before it's injected

[vernal hare]

if yall wanna port shaders yourselves, they provided a guide including some builds for all major platforms

[full edge]

Time to actually try and be a programmer and remember how functions and variables are converted

[stuck gorge]

is there a tool to view custom joker descriptions live without opening and restarting the game

[vernal hare]

(i made the pipeline to compile the shaderinit script)

[jaunty galleon]

hmm, do i call this Jerry Can, Jerrican, or Gasoline

[vernal hare]

Gasoline

[prisma latch]

gasoline

[vernal hare]

that’s not food

[stuck gorge]

gasoline

[prisma latch]

yummy

[harsh glacier]

gasoline

[silk flume]

anyone know why this is happening and how i can fix it

[gentle citrus]

I will try that.

eventually

[jaunty galleon]

decisive polling data suggests i should call this joker "Flamey Box"

[vernal hare]

yeah i made the CI stuff because i wanted a linux build

[plush hound]

Salad

[harsh glacier]

im debating whether i should redo the battery acid spaghetti art or not

[stuck gorge]

why are you adding that as a joker

they told you to don't try it

[jaunty galleon]

battery acid spaghetti

[gentle citrus]

by the way how does shaderinit works?

[harsh glacier]

ts bro 🥀

yes thats the unpleasant gradient

[normal hollow]

update lovely?

[vernal hare]

shaderinit [name] makes a file with the name that provides a template for a shader

[gentle citrus]

does it use lua or txt?

[vernal hare]

it makes a file in the GLSL format

so .fs

[stuck gorge]

what would it even do

[harsh glacier]

currently its an uncommon that boosts the boss blind's requirement for xmult

degrades every round

[hard plank]

hi

[hard plank]

don't do this

[umbral pilot]

hi

[jaunty galleon]

easiest card i've ever had to add yo

[fallow bramble]

Oooh that sounds sick, gonna be one hell of a graph

[hard plank]

anti synergy with dried ghast

[jaunty galleon]

what is dried ghast

[harsh glacier]

its ghast but dried

[jaunty galleon]

well i figured

[hard plank]

hi

[jaunty galleon]

hi

[zinc mauve]

How to remove lovely so that when balatro is enabled it does not enable the debug console and does not set a new folder called (mods)
Even after deleting this folder?

[hard plank]

I'm cooked

[jaunty galleon]

steam -> properties -> installed files -> verify integrity of game files

[sand delta]

are there info_queue s for planet cards

[hard plank]

i think you just shove center into it

[zinc mauve]

doesn't work. Even though I uninstalled lovely it still creates a new file. Even though it's not there

[sand delta]

been doing "info_queue[#1116390750314307698_queue+1] = G.P_CENTERS.m_wild" for enhancements, is it any similar for planet cards

[gentle citrus]

I tried the lua with the code of the shader and this resulted

[hard plank]

i think you just do c_earth

[vernal hare]

that’s not lua it’s GLSL

[gentle citrus]

by the way, if Bearodactyl makes a tool that can also make a tool to also convert Shadertoy shaders into GLSL

[sand delta]

replacing m_wild?

[prisma latch]

might be making a huge mistake but i have decided to use custom G.STATE values for my mod to make sure i actually know wtf is going on at given points lmao

[gentle citrus]

oh.

[hard plank]

yeah

[wraith seal]

damn this is strong

[vernal hare]

bearodactyl has a guide

[sand delta]

what would i do to specifically reference venus

[hard plank]

i think

[sand delta]

oh

venus instead of earth

duh

[hard plank]

😭

[gentle citrus]

I actually meant GLSL ES

for gms

[gentle citrus]

alright I'll try and see

[full edge]

Oops, did a lot of experimental edits on my main branch accidentally. Hope no one used BMM to download Kino in the last hour

[hard plank]

game pass modding

[wanton rapids]

3 way crossmod real??

[prisma latch]

i really need to seperate my lovely into seperate files but i dunno how to seperate it

like do i split it by target file

purpose is a bit ambiguous

[wraith seal]

should i add 9 materials that need 9 mods respectively to obtain, and a recipe needing all of them 🤔

[zinc mauve]

doesn't work. Even though I uninstalled lovely it still creates a new file. Even though it's not there

[jaunty galleon]

unsure then

[prisma latch]

yes

rendoms material

asbestos

[jaunty galleon]

unrelated but man i am on fire today with these jokers

[prisma latch]

damn thats peak art

[gentle citrus]

I ended up doing the shader code.

[wraith seal]

thats pretty weak

[gentle citrus]

not sure if I want to show it

but also I had to end up using chatgpt to try to guide me on how I can try to make this.

[prisma latch]

BOOOO

[jaunty galleon]

i'm glad you think so, knowing there's jaggies in there pisses me off greatly

[wraith seal]

using chatgpt for guidance is fine, as long as you don't completely rely on it to create code imo

[gentle citrus]

I didn't use to create the entire code.

I just tried my best to see if I can trnaslate the shadertoy

I jsut only use Chatgpt for some guidence

[jaunty galleon]

do you think it would be better if it was +4/+30 like the base enhancements

[wraith seal]

yeah i guessed from what you said, ai should be an assistant instead of flat out doing your work

[full edge]

chatgpt's pretty good at helping you get your footing when you're doing something very new in programming, I find

[wraith seal]

eehhhh, mult and bonus cards are weak themselves, so idk

[jaunty galleon]

well i thought so too which is why i added the joker lol

[full edge]

I think you could do that without it being very strong at all, still, haha

[gentle citrus]

here is the code, I didn't use any chatgpt to create the entire code which honestly it would be obvious.

[gentle citrus]

if you mean me using Chatgpt, I didn't use chatgpt to create the codeI jsut used it to look for guidence.

[wraith seal]

i would still not use bonus/mult cards even with that joker, since $20 (even if its inconsistent) from lucky cards and X2 Mult from glass cards are just too good

[gentle citrus]

if you refer before I said about chatgpt then you're good.

[jaunty galleon]

balatro mods need more C-tier cards imo, i'm fine with my mod adding a bunch of meh jokers

[wraith seal]

so the problem isnt really about the joker, but the enhancements as a whole lol :p

[wraith seal]

oh, in that case then shre

sure

-# do buff them to what you suggested earlier, though, so at least it has some niche use at one point :3

[jaunty galleon]

already have

[gentle citrus]

Honestly, I don't support AI to replace people's jobs. AI was supposed to be used as guidence not replacing works.

[hard plank]

😭

[prisma latch]

i dont care what you use ai for i just dont like people using it anywhere at all. i hate that this is seen as a radical take but oh well what can you do

[wraith seal]

totally agreed

[prisma latch]

ive learnt that if people use ai youre not gonna be able to convince them not to

[wraith seal]

eh people have different views on ai, so thats justified, still a bit crazy that we thought they were fictional concepts before and now AI is being used in a lot of industries though

[jaunty galleon]

copilot is peak ai because it just gives you better code suggestions that sometimes suck, which is what autocomplete was already doing lol

[harsh glacier]

why are we cancelling Al what did weird al do

[prisma latch]

he was in mlp my least favourite show of all time ever on earth do not check my message history

[vernal hare]

how do i put the set i want to be picked from in the booster pack

[gentle citrus]

Honestly I agree for the most part, I did hear about technicolor let alot of people go because of AI.

[gentle citrus]

I'm sorry?

Wait a minute.

[harsh glacier]

weird al was in mlp yes

he was also in that barnyard show

i forgot the name of

[wanton rapids]

i have gathered them all

arrowhead and dependent are for the graph

[prisma latch]

he friendzoned pinkie pie in one of his posts earlier this year smh my head. sir that is your wife

[jaunty galleon]

also sidenote AI can actually be used to make some stunning stuff in the hands of creatives (see: Losing You by exurb1a (deleted) and that one Posy video about AI (also deleted, i'm seeing a pattern here)) but a lot of people using it are uncreative and just want to make slop garbage, resulting in vast quantites of slop garbage

[harsh glacier]

holy shit my mod is on there

ai slop ,,,,

[jaunty galleon]

waiter waiter! more slop please!

[wanton rapids]

posy made a video on ai?

[jaunty galleon]

yeah it got deleted real quick lol, i swear it existed but it might be lost media now

posy is...LOST MEDIA?

[prisma latch]

all ai content is slop 👍

[zinc mauve]

Even though I removed Lovely, it still creates a folder (Mods). Is it a virus?

[normal hollow]

balatro modding-chat this is the sixth ai discussion this week

[prisma latch]

damn rlly