⚙・modding-general

[full edge]

You should play #1248249207526002698

[teal birch]

I would but it was being a smidge iffy a moment ago

Will put it in sooner or later

[full edge]

What's your issue atm, Velocity?

Is it a hard crash with no logs?

[teal birch]

trying to get this modpack to work

Yep

And i suspect cryptid suddenly shat itself

working on it rn

[full edge]

That's an infinite loop. The latest issue that was causing it was talisman, so if you haven't updated that, that might be the way to go

[teal birch]

yeaaaah I updated every mod today

including talisman

cryptid didnt seem to need updates yet but ill check it

[full edge]

Cryptid also had a huge update recently, so I guess that could also be the cause. But everyone else in the last week that had logless crash issues here had them due to Talisman iirc

[teal birch]

how recent

[hard plank]

good morning

[full edge]

Lm see if I can see what the time frame for it was

[teal birch]

oh hey cryptid booted up perfectly fine

nvm we good rn

it was a bit iffy a moment ago but we good

[harsh glacier]

hmm

[teal birch]

lemme double check on the first few crashes earlier

[hard plank]

pr will eventually be merged but it needs more time

[harsh glacier]

i love the font feature thanks aiko

[teal birch]

woag

[full edge]

Oh, you're making that an smods push?

That's awesome, Aiko! Really appreciate it

[hard plank]

why the fuck is my PC booting into Linux AGAIN

[tropic egret]

it's choosing its favourite option

[teal birch]

Okaaay good news

Both crashes I experienced before don’t happen

time to slowy add the other 50+ mods

[hard plank]

yeah

rn i was told that the patches are a bit long

and documentation is a bit inaccurate

so

[full edge]

Okay, time to clean my bathroom and then do some more bugfixing for Kino

[hard plank]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/pull/684

[wraith seal]

wait is that a pokemon reference

[stark shale]

wondering if tailsman still give $nil cashout

yup 🔥

[hard plank]

i just believe it is useful for everyone

more formatting opportunities is good

you can do a lot with just text and font

[teal birch]

Agreed

Me when I pull up with the wingding font joker:

[full edge]

It's really useful. I can see basically every big mod wanting that feature, so it's awesome to have it be set up

[stark shale]

also ice, is the Kamen rider movie functional yet

[teal birch]

I haven’t heard that name in years

[swift matrix]

early pokemon glitch stuff

[hard plank]

my initial use case is to just have my joker say things in Japanese when the locale is set to not Japanese

[swift matrix]

the original games were full of more spghetti than 's code, and did very interesting things

for snyone who isn't familiar, lol

[full edge]

Yes! Though I wasn't on my ADHD meds yesterday so I didn't watch it, haha. As much as I love non-English movies, I do need some external help being able to focus on subtitles, hahaha. But I plan on watching it today!

It'll be the 200th movie I log on letterboxd this year 🥲

[hard plank]

imagine ADHD meds

[teal birch]

ah here we go

[tropic egret]

i eat batteries for meds

[teal birch]

first crash since I started putting stuff back in

[hard plank]

-# (i have ADHD meds)

[tropic egret]

(lithium)

[teal birch]

-# same

[harsh glacier]

chat i need legendary joker ideas

[teal birch]

yourself

[harsh glacier]

already exists

[teal birch]

hmmmm

[full edge]

Kamen riders

[teal birch]

The Moon

[harsh glacier]

i dont watch kamen rider 😭

[full edge]

Misew'll tell you a good pitch for it

Doug Dimmadome? Is that anything?

[hard plank]

Yuuka

[teal birch]

was probably a fluke, it didn't happen when I did a new run

[teal birch]

sans undertale

[harsh glacier]

im pretty sure sans undertale as a joker also already exists

[full edge]

Or, I guess Millburn Pennybags deserves a PTA legendary

[teal birch]

What about Kirbo

[swift matrix]

I like the yummy amphetemines :3

[hard plank]

i don't have that

[harsh glacier]

also technically im not asking for legendaries but for a rarity that is about the same level

ahead

[teal birch]

Ooh

One moment

[full edge]

Add Pierce from Community

He's streets ahead, after all

[hard plank]

one piece

[harsh glacier]

theres currently like 4 daehA jokers rn and the 5th is just under construction due to the consumable type its attached to

hmm

[teal birch]

Uuurgh prismatic would be a cool as hell rarity name but

[harsh glacier]

stealing that then

[teal birch]

Yea idk if anyone has done that yet

[hard plank]

just add the One Piece

so it becomes real

[teal birch]

Can we really get much higher

[swift matrix]

woo woo doo woo woo

[dreamy abyss]

all of a sudden i'm getting crashes when i try to play against boss blinds tat debuff suits/ does anhonr knwo why

[buoyant cairn]

okay any ideas here?

[dreamy abyss]

thank you steam deck keyboard for absolutely mangling that sentence

[wraith seal]

do people actually search for this??

[swift matrix]

This is a sloppy reference to Dark Fantasy by kanye west because the song went in my head reading that

[hard plank]

o shit that's my mod i think

[dreamy abyss]

ah
i was worried it mightve been something in finity
but if it is aikoshen then i hope im not putting any pressure on you

[hard plank]

I'm not sure

can you check the games code

[dreamy abyss]

im not sure how to do that but what i can do is try to isolate whether it is aikoshen or finity because im pretty sure its not any of my other mods

[hard plank]

go to the mods folder then go to lovely then dump then card.lua at line 4581

[polar oyster]

hi!!

[dreamy abyss]

i think it might be finity lol
i see "bypass debuff", that's probably a sign that periwinkle's anti-debuff code is breaking something

[buoyant cairn]

Anyone?

[wraith seal]

ortalab crash

[full edge]

Nah, talisman crash

[buoyant cairn]

Well I figured that much, but is it something else just not working with ortalab? Something I can do to fix? Or do I just need to start a new run lol

[full edge]

Ortalab isn't talisman compatible

[buoyant cairn]

Ohhh it isn’t?

[wraith seal]

they

dont actually have talisman

[full edge]

Oh huh

I should've checked the modlist

[hard plank]

did you not start a new run when you install mods

[wraith seal]

and i dont think talisman should return something as nil, anyways 🤔

[swift matrix]

it's not bignum compatible

if you need to have talisman you can still play ortalab

[wraith seal]

-# or at least, never experienced that

[swift matrix]

just have to put it in vanillia

[buoyant cairn]

Well yeah lol just keeps crashing when I tried to play my hand lol

[wind turtle]

I have it on omeganum and it works fine?

[full edge]

Fair point, I think I misread the error and just rushed to make a statement haha

[swift matrix]

oh, i was taking Ice's word for it

[buoyant cairn]

So it’s not a talisman issue?

[hard plank]

wait so did you or did you not

[full edge]

Oh, maybe it is then. I'd assumed based on a talisman incompat I had and Eremel's hatred for it, hahaha

[wraith seal]

eremel hated doing talisman incompat too?

[buoyant cairn]

Wdym?

I installed the mod and did a fresh launch

[hard plank]

did you start a new run when installing mods

as in

[new run]

[buoyant cairn]

Yes I started a new run on a fresh launch

[full edge]

But yeah, this is an Ortalab issue, no talisman involved. Sorry for doing misinformation 😬

[buoyant cairn]

But I had already installed it

[swift matrix]

so a lot of ortalab's patches don't hit

but that's been true for a logn time

[buoyant cairn]

I didn’t just have balatro open install it and continue a run lol

[swift matrix]

and mauy not be true for you

i have a lot of mods, lol

[full edge]

Are you on Mac, Gem?

[buoyant cairn]

Nah windows

Steam

[swift matrix]

it says platform: windows

[full edge]

They don't hit? Or is it just other mods patching stuff at a higher prio?

[swift matrix]

for futre reference

[swift matrix]

I mean the error logs show the same thing

so no clue

probably the second one though

[full edge]

I'm sorry, my amphetamines are still the kicking in, hahaha

[buoyant cairn]

So is this something I can fix or is my run just bricked

[swift matrix]

try removing neatojokers

but your run itself probably

[buoyant cairn]

Keep in mind I have essentially zero knowledge about this stuff, I just like to play the mods lol

[full edge]

I'd also post the crash log in the Ortalab channel

[swift matrix]

i'm just suggesting that because it's the one i don't know a lot about

though i think i do play with it

and ortalab too

[buoyant cairn]

Can you link it please?

[full edge]

#1217704157574860810

[buoyant cairn]

Thanks

[swift matrix]

tbh the main difference is the utility mods and the fect i keep talisman on vanillia

I have all those same contrent mods

and 60 more

and i don't get errors liek that

so are you sure talisman isn't the issue?

because the one difference besides qol / utility mods and having a lot more going on is i keep talisman in vanillia

there we go finally made it make sense

lol

my message i mean

[buoyant cairn]

maybe to them you do lol

im pretty dumb

i just know how to plug and play, thats basically it

[swift matrix]

~~plug and play my modpack #1267720426109272135 ~~

that's a joke unless you want like 70 mods

[stark shale]

#ALWAYPLUGGING

[buoyant cairn]

one would think its a good idea to learn some of it to better understand what is going wrong

but alas

[buoyant cairn]

i'll give it a shot

[swift matrix]

just clear out your existing mods folder

i have everything you do anyways besides like blueprint plus and the clock thing

and you should be able to add those

[buoyant cairn]

alright, ill just drag them into a separate folder for now

[hexed zenith]

Tried using an undertale card balatro mod with cryptid, and for some reason it just crashed with this?

[buoyant cairn]

i HAVE to have the clock, otherwise i'll be on this game for 20 hours straight lmao

[swift matrix]

yeah by all means

basically i'm just saying don't accidentally have 2 copies of smods

lol

or any other mod

also scroll all the way down on the thread i linked, the actual links you want are at the bottom

[buoyant cairn]

wait do i need to remove the dll file too or just the actual mods themselves?

[harsh glacier]

either

• update your smods
• update cryptid
• update literally every mod in your mod folder
• both mods are incompatible due to patches and you'll just have to live with that

[swift matrix]

jsut the mods, you keep lovely

[buoyant cairn]

ok

thx

[hexed zenith]

all of them are latest release soooo i think im cooked

[swift matrix]

that's needed and i have no way to provide it myself or reason to

lol

[hexed zenith]

even just using cryptid and undertale only its broken

[stark shale]

mod incompat

kill undertale

[harsh glacier]

"when someone gets a crash due to an incompatibility with cryptid its not cryptid they're removing"

[hexed zenith]

fair point, im just deleting undertale since i cant fix it

[full edge]

The Undertale mod is hard to diagnose, honestly. I'm still fascinated that their main distribution way is a Google docs and twitter, haha

[harsh glacier]

goodbye undertale

[wraith seal]

i honestly never knew about the existence of that mod until someone asked if anyone can get the file for them in here

😭

[hexed zenith]

yet the fun value card is my FAVORITE card probably out of many mod paired with "Oops! All 6s

[harsh glacier]

very nice

[wraith seal]

and its surprisingly high quality, too

[teal birch]

mmmmm very nice

[wraith seal]

hi somethingcom

[harsh glacier]

also guys

what do yall think of the new artwork for this

[teal birch]

It’s lovely

[wraith seal]

very nice

[full edge]

Looks Amazing

[wraith seal]

i should get back to working on art for balatro star rail soon

[hexed zenith]

ok wait i love the details

[wraith seal]

after im no longer burnt out

:3

[full edge]

I can believe it has some fun designs for sure! Though my only interaction with it is seeing it crash logs, hahaha

[teal birch]

huh.

not really sure why this exists but its good to know about lmao

[wraith seal]

honestly it would be really cool if the newspaper covered crash logs instead lol

[harsh glacier]

for comparison this is how the old one looked lmao

its so BAD

[hexed zenith]

sucks

[harsh glacier]

having an actual artist in my basement doing the art for this

[wraith seal]

"Man tried to compare tables with numbers"

[full edge]

Not bad, but the new one's definitely an improvement

[polar oyster]

i like art but effect... (worst certificcate)

[wraith seal]

"Man downloaded Talisman, started counting his coins in table language"

[polar oyster]

seals>editions

[harsh glacier]

me and ari were debating if it would be edition AND enhancement or just edition

this is probably fine as an uncommon its one of the more balanced jokers in my mod

[hexed zenith]

hear me out

[harsh glacier]

and plus free playing card

[hexed zenith]

edition and enhancement AND seal

but only two of the three options are randomly selected

[wraith seal]

-# free playing card isnt a plus most of the time merlin 😭 (i still dont know what to call you)

[harsh glacier]

i would say once again no one gets my name right but thats my fucking discord handle

MerlinSoTrue

[wraith seal]

i mean i did call you haya once and you still said its wrong 😭

[harsh glacier]

nuh uh

[swift matrix]

pta?

[wraith seal]

is it pta

[swift matrix]

lol

[harsh glacier]

pta is the name of the mod lmao

[full edge]

It's Jon PTA

[wraith seal]

😭

yeah idk

[swift matrix]

oh brain

[wraith seal]

deep_copy it is

[stark shale]

smod

[swift matrix]

why is it named like your name is paya?

like... why?

[harsh glacier]

the mod is named after my oc who has that nickname

(she's my profile picture)

[hexed zenith]

i had an antimatter joker idea but after looking at the 121 results in the server i realize its an overdone idea 😭

[buoyant atlas]

Is it easy to upload a mod straight into the balatro mod manager?

[full edge]

I feel like all mods should really be named [creator]'s [synonym for stuff]

[swift matrix]

sounds like a sona with extra steps

[harsh glacier]

because she is

lmao

[sweet forge]

very interesting module names too

[distant badge]

ice's peak fiction

[full edge]

Yes, if you're familiar with git at all

[harsh glacier]

ONE

[swift matrix]

then why don't you go by her name. lmfaoo

[harsh glacier]

SIX

[buoyant atlas]

I do it through git?

[harsh glacier]

i love two.lua

[wraith seal]

im still confused

[buoyant atlas]

or do they have instruction on there?

[wraith seal]

how do i call PTASaka.deep_copy(haya)

🥀

[harsh glacier]

just call me haya

[wraith seal]

i see

[harsh glacier]

lmao

[full edge]

Yes, the BMM mod list is a list of files on a separate repo. There's a guide on the BMM git

[wraith seal]

i think i started calling you by a different name whenever i referred to you, except for hhh 😭

[swift matrix]

idk it's a pretty generic looking function

[buoyant atlas]

oh okay sick, thank you

[swift matrix]

could be any language

[wraith seal]

true

[full edge]

Fascinating, hahaha. I should try and play with it, I'm getting curious

I never see what mods exist outside of the discord, honestly

[wraith seal]

🤔

[grand geode]

hi jaya

[sweet forge]

me too but ur point about a google drive intrigued me enough to check it

[hexed zenith]

i cant think of anymore good joker ideas

im trying to cook but head empty no thoughts

[full edge]

I have some 200 joker concepts I haven't implemented yet, if you want them (they're mostly bad!)

[buoyant cairn]

I cannot seem to get this to launch non vanilla, I downloaded the file unzipped and placed it in the mods folder, am I missing something here?

[hexed zenith]

you know what sure

[buoyant cairn]

Wait

I’m an idiot

[swift matrix]

did it end up nested?

windwos is an ass

and i'm on windows currently unforutnatelt

if all the folders are empty uou didn't download it right

[full edge]

Goes to show that undertale's a powerful enough brand to get eyes in anything, even if your mod's in a Google drive

[swift matrix]

you do the release

[buoyant cairn]

I’m an idiot accidentally moved smods main along with the mods

[swift matrix]

mods.zip

[swift matrix]

no you do do that

it comes with smods

[buoyant cairn]

Then idk lol

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/GayCoonie/Coonies-Mod-Pack-Neo/releases/tag/release-20250506a
did you download mods.zip here?

that's how you download it

[buoyant cairn]

Yes

[swift matrix]

not the souree code?

[full edge]

The ones I've not used for Kino yet or often very niche, or too specific or bad to be worthwhile, haha. Or way too complex to understand easily.

Let me grab some of the ones I didn't end up using, though 😋

[buoyant cairn]

Well, I did both lol

[swift matrix]

the source code zip has all empty folders

it's just how github works with submodules @wind turtle

[buoyant cairn]

Let me just date these files and redownload,

So download mods zip, extract and copy into mods folder correct???

[swift matrix]

yes

[swift matrix]

and make sure all the mod folder ended up directly in /mods, not nested

[buoyant cairn]

Nested?

Told ya I’m dumb to this stuff lol

[full edge]

At the end of the round, destroy a random other joker and increase the sell value of every joker by its sell value.

If a card is destroyed, after 3 turns, return it with a random edition

When you buy it, reveal a card and a hand type. Play it within 3 rounds to get $50, or lose all your money. Cannot be sold.

[swift matrix]

if it still doesn't work just screenshot your mods folder and i'll tell ya what's wrong

[stark shale]

oh

[swift matrix]

well there's the issue

that's what i mean by nested

copy what's in mods to mods

not the folder itself

the well... mods

[buoyant cairn]

And then delete the mods folder?

[swift matrix]

also you must have version.dll in the right place too

for it to alson be there

which is the wrong place

[swift matrix]

it will be empty yes

is this how you were playing before

with a mods folder inside of your mods folder?

that might explain your crash

[buoyant cairn]

No, had all the mods separate

Weren’t in the folders

[swift matrix]

they are all seperate

[buoyant cairn]

Tbf though it’s been a hot minute since I’ve done a manual installation, been using bmm

[swift matrix]

mods,zip is the equivilant of the mods fodler you put the unzipped version into

it should replace it

not go into it

or the contents should go into it rather but there's nothing there of value anyway

version.dll is already alwhere

and the lovely folder is just dumps and logs

[buoyant cairn]

finally

[swift matrix]

ayyyyy

[buoyant cairn]

Alright, so I haven’t played like 90 percent of the mods in this mod pack, anything in specific I should know before I begin lol

Btw thank you very much for the help

[swift matrix]

I say just play around and have fin :3

and you're very welcome

[hexed zenith]

really dont know if this is good but i used some inspiration with the first idea (also blocktales reference)

the art is also mid but its wip

[wraith seal]

the description is shown only when the abno's description is fully unlocked

to avoid spoilering what they do :3

[polar oyster]

[redacted]

[wraith seal]

my localization file isnt surviving after this 🥀

wha

huh

thats concerning

[spiral wharf]

can i put mods in mobile?

[hard plank]

good night

[wraith seal]

-# its possible, but thats all im saying

[full edge]

I have no clue why this cardarea becomes inaccessible sometimes. I hate bugs I can't reproduce

[gilded vortex]

Which one

[full edge]

Abduction. It crashes randomly. I know it's my fault, due to it being my code and it happening when only running Kino (and Db+) but I can't figure out why it's not happening consistently

[gray cove]

I DO NOT HAVE DADDY ISSUES

[west lodge]

when i try and dowload cryptid it keeps saying antivirus analysis failed any way to fix this ?

[gray cove]

Turn off your anti virus

Duh

[west lodge]

i don't even what's my anti virus lmao

[gray cove]

Check a YouTube tutorial on how to disable you antivirus and turn it back on

I’m curious why it detects cryptid as a sus file tho LOL

[west lodge]

it's deactivated and still won't bruh...

[spring verge]

halatro

[buoyant cairn]

umm

[tough vigil]

joker idea that fits nicely in my big hands mod and improves with the voucher:

Car Pool - x1.5Mult for every unscored card in a played hand

[buoyant cairn]

sounds fun

[hexed zenith]

that would go hard with high card setup 🔥

[tough vigil]

since my voucher lets you play 6 cards, this then allows you to play a few more hands with this bonus

ie now you can throw an unscored card in with a flush or straight

or full house

[hexed zenith]

or make a straight with 6 cards potentially?

[tough vigil]

the voucher does that already, i just mean with car pool

[hexed zenith]

oh im stupid LMAO

[buoyant cairn]

imagine this with cryptid unlimited hand selection lol

infinite high cards

[tough vigil]

the flavor of filling seats

yea thats why im putting it in my mod not cryptid lmaooo

my mods like "what if there was a sane 6-card hand option"

[buoyant cairn]

yeah would be a bit too busted lol

[west lodge]

i found a solution i just dowloaded it with Tor i think it's google who is mad

[buoyant cairn]

6 card hands sounds relatively balanced tho

[tough vigil]

nice and reserved, 4 new planets for them, extends stock hands

[gray cove]

Hell latro

[buoyant cairn]

we need a mod, kinda like brainstorm, but instead of tags/packs/etc start with joker of choice

[tough vigil]

i choose throwback and skip every blind

[buoyant cairn]

like let me get my cloud 9 hatsune miku run going lol

[buoyant cairn]

double tag deck xD

[steep hedge]

i maybe FOUND the fix for the opengl 2.1 window problem can i post it somewhere?

[smoky arch]

still waiting on a mod that lets you add individual stake effects to your difficulty, i wanna play gold stake without the stipulations of red stake lmao

[dusky heart]

If someone said that this was made by Toby Fox himself, I'd totally believe it

[west lodge]

i have this error any idea how i can fix it ?

it says invalid descriptor...

[dusky heart]

That's an odd one. Try deleting Steamodded in your Mods folder and reinstalling

[west lodge]

i just did 3 time

[swift matrix]

fuck @wanton rapids I figured out together how to combine the entries for the two copies of coupon catelog for the stats and now I can't use it anymore

[west lodge]

but it seems i can't even delete folder from my mods folder

[swift matrix]

would be a crime to ruin the count

[dusky heart]

Very weird. Can you send a screenshot of your Mods folder? This is at %AppData%/Balatro/Mods?

[wanton rapids]

devious

[full edge]

@stark shale watched the 2023 version. Don't think the franchise will be something I get really into, but I had fun. Love how earnest it's camp is

[sweet forge]

yeah wanted to say "invalid descriptor" indicates corrupted files, id recommend a restart then trying to delete after it
or checking if your disk is failing🫣

[steep hedge]

can you remember the opengl 2.1 problem we had some days ago?

[west lodge]

i'll try that thebn

[swift matrix]

ayyyyy

now to see if any other jokers should be there but aren't

[sweet forge]

can't help but think of the xp days when everyone used Unlocker to kill processes that hang with open file handles making them undeletable

[west lodge]

marry me

it works perfectly now thank you very much

[sweet forge]

rings a bell for anyone?

[full edge]

Yes. Did you solve it?!

[steep hedge]

nope i thought i did it, because i went down some nvidia driver versions it started up once, but now i am at the beginning

[full edge]

ah that fucking sucks dude

[vernal hare]

am i the only one that plans a bunch of jokers by filling out just the art and loc_txt and coming back later to actually make them function

[steep hedge]

its insane man it's like its working for EVERYBODY just me and my friend it doesn't work the thing which gets me upset the most is that IT WORKED

[full edge]

I mean, I do that in a separate document. But when it comes to implementing them I usually do the opposite, haha. Code first, then only when I'm done testing it give it a description

[steep hedge]

steammodded has the issue in the github but they just said ey we don't know what it causes it and we don't know how to fix it and closed

[vernal hare]

interesting

[steep hedge]

i asked in the chat over there somedays ago and nothing

[full edge]

I think the problem's mostly that it's a love2d issue. Do you and your friend have the same gpu?

[vernal hare]

i put some stuff in a seperate document but if i have a burning idea that i need to see in the moment, ill punch it into the game

[steep hedge]

i have a rtx 4080 and he has a rtx 2070

[vernal hare]

does anyone else have the issue where steam tries to uninstall a game every time i run/restart/quit balatro

this happens on my steam deck AND my desktop, but strangely only on desktop mode on my steam deck

it prompts me every time

[full edge]

the fact that both of you have the issue seems to imply to me that you two must have done something during the install, or maybe for another game, that's messing something up. But I can't imagine what it'd be

[vernal hare]

i may try to reinstall lovely.

i haven’t updated it or steam modded for a bit

maybe there’s just some cryptic issue that got fixed

[steep hedge]

WTF

[steep hedge]

BRUH

nah you won't believe this

i googled again the love2d issue on github. https://github.com/christianhaitian/arkos/issues/1180

and saw these comments: The joysticks are actually working. Love is simply doing a straight translation of the joysticks events from SDL. See the joystick event and axis table at my R36S programming description page at:

i looked at my plugged in ps5 controler on the pc and it was plugged in, i removed it and now it starts without an issue? several times it starts no issue, when i plug in my controler it starts to crash again?

[vernal hare]

do you have a second controller?

try plugging that one in

[steep hedge]

i don't want to use the controler

i have an issue that the game doesn't start

[vernal hare]

well i’m trying to see if it’s every controller

[steep hedge]

bruh

you know this issue?

this is some very weird behaviour that a controller can crash a game on startup witht he problem that i have a openGL problem? it doesn't make sense

[full edge]

oh damn, that's really weird, yeah

[swift matrix]

yeah, not really, there are but only because the mods aren't up to date enough for me to feel comfortable running them anymore

some also would need to be comboned to work right, but yeah

[harsh glacier]

this is either a bug from love2d's end or sdl2's end

[swift matrix]

turns out i did all this mostly just for coupon catalog, lol

[vernal hare]

hey if i. verify game files does that delete my mods or just the lovely injector

[swift matrix]

neither

[vernal hare]

oh wtf

how do i clear out lovely then

i’m trying to update

[spring verge]

scream

[swift matrix]

delete version.dll, simple as that

[vernal hare]

oh okay

[swift matrix]

it's a runtume injector, doesn't modify the exe

[vernal hare]

i see

hmm, updating smods and refreshing lovely fixed the issue

what rarity should this be

activates is the 1 in 4 chance to spawn 2 more unstable cards

ylw

ykw

this is weak as fuck

im gonna bump it up

i bumped it up to X0.3

[swift matrix]

I guess your mod is going for a lot higher power level than vanillia

[vernal hare]

likely, yes

[swift matrix]

which is chill ofc

[vernal hare]

im not going batshit insane but im going a bit higher than vanilla

[swift matrix]

yeah it'd already be an uncommon in vanillia at 0.1

[vernal hare]

i'll call it uncommon here

well

[swift matrix]

ah then that's not crazy then

[vernal hare]

no

hm

yeah uncommon seems fair

i need more uncommons anyways

[swift matrix]

it's fine to have more uncommons than commons, vanillia does

lol

[vernal hare]

yeah

ta-da

[harsh glacier]

xchips ,,,,,,

[swift matrix]

yeah as long as you don't go cryptid level iand keep the rarities sensible I'm probably interested in your mod

[vernal hare]

i know they arent any different

[harsh glacier]

vanilla+ status REVOKED

[vernal hare]

never claimed to be

you can have it

[swift matrix]

they're just meming

[full edge]

I think most card games generally have a bigger uncommon pool than common. That way common cards can function a bit more like proper building blocks for a build

[harsh glacier]

oh ok you can go

[vernal hare]

yeah i dont understand cryptid

i respect it

but

[swift matrix]

I mean... tbh i think vanillia+ mods also do the slightly higher than vanillia thing, whether they try to ot not

[vernal hare]

i feel like a victorian child being force fed mountain dew and a doritos locos taco

[swift matrix]

I call it 'standard mod balance'

[vernal hare]

whenever i see that mod

[full edge]

Rares don't have to have a huge pool because you'll not see enough of them for repeats to be an issue. Commons need to be a smaller pool so that you can basically aim for specific synergies so that there's at least a semblance of consistency.

[harsh glacier]

my mod originally had a lot of rares and 2 commons lmao

[swift matrix]

yeah this goes out the window when i have like 500 of each

though there's no way to really check that stupidly

i'd have to do it in debugplus

[harsh glacier]

now its balanced to be around ~5 of each rarity

except for ahead

but thats more of a meme rarity than anything

theres a reason why ahead jokers appear in meme packs :V

[full edge]

part of the issue with vanilla balance is kind of the same issue that custom mtg sets tend to have: well-designed commons are simple and those designs already exist. Only at rare, where complexity is more variable, is there a lot of design space left over. So any ideas you tend to add will not be suitable for common in many cases

[vernal hare]

what do you think of this rarity?

i mean

what rarity should it be

[swift matrix]

What would I iterate over to get this tbh? I wanna write a script that spits out how many jokers there are of each rarity

[full edge]

what is an unstable card?

[swift matrix]

this is for #💻・modding-dev I'll forward it there

[full edge]

the rarity pools

[vernal hare]

X4 mult, 1 in 4 chance to make 2 more unstable cards with random suit and rank

so its basically chancing adding garbage to your deck

[hard plank]

good afternoon

[harsh glacier]

a deck fixer's worst nightmare

[full edge]

i mean x4 mult that spreads itself is very good, no?

[vernal hare]

^

[full edge]

or i guess it's just high card/splash synergy

[vernal hare]

im gonna improve the wording to say 'of random suit and rank'

i have to be direct to the player

and say

'when scored'

instead of

'when played'

[harsh minnow]

why say it at all?

[harsh glacier]

^

[vernal hare]

hm fair

ill just adjust when scored

[harsh glacier]

you don't need to specify it because a player would assume it only does the xmult when scored

unless stated otherwise

[vernal hare]

well 'when played' and 'when scored' are 2 seperate scenarios, no?

one day i need to go into my codebase and get rid of all the hardcoded values

[hard plank]

oh

[vernal hare]

this shits starting to piss me off now

[hard plank]

wait what

[vernal hare]

when i first started

i was really bad about hardcoded stuff

[hard plank]

just say "[X4] Mult"?

[harsh glacier]

why are you hardcoding values 😭

[vernal hare]

oh

[vernal hare]

I DONT KNOW

ASK ME FROM A MONTH AGO

i dont do it anymore

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[harsh glacier]

why'd you think there was a config array in the examples ,,,,,,

[vernal hare]

tech debt nightmare

[hard plank]

hi

[harsh glacier]

hi aikoyori

[hard plank]

how do i make it so that my jokers don't suck

[harsh minnow]

but have you hardcoded pi?

[vernal hare]

i mean this so sincerely, i think its time to find a new hobby

-# /j

[harsh glacier]

is math.pi not enough for you

oh wait i don't see the dot

[harsh minnow]

i need many more digits

it's for this

[harsh glacier]

see this is the reason why i don't add math to my mods

[vernal hare]

asked this before, but how do we feel abt this effect

[polar oyster]

1 in 20😭

[vernal hare]

its balanced with space joker

and if you get really lucky thats 5 levels gained in one hand

[full edge]

1/20 chances are at the point where I wouldn't consider them fun outside of providing an incidental bonus. Like lucky card's 1/15 not being the build around part

[harsh glacier]

there's a quite fair chance that will never be triggered in a real run

[vernal hare]

hmm i see

what should it be instead?

1 in 5? 1 in 7?

[harsh minnow]

i have a seal that does the same with 1 in 3

[vernal hare]

ill do 1 in 2.9 just so im better than you

./lh

[harsh minnow]

for an enhancement i'd say 1 in 5

[vernal hare]

alright

1 in 5

[harsh minnow]

does it trigger when scored or played?

[vernal hare]

ok thank god this one is sane

[full edge]

The chances of anyone ever having all of them trigger is incredibly small, like one in ten million, haha

[polar oyster]

maybe above (space joker)?

[vernal hare]

scored

[harsh minnow]

because if it's scored retriggers will make it insane

[vernal hare]

hanging chad on the galactical card

[polar oyster]

1 in 7-10

[full edge]

Also, enhancements are easier to acquire than seals, so that's something to account for as well

[harsh glacier]

feel like 1 in 8 is a nice balance

[harsh minnow]

this is why i said 1 in 5

[vernal hare]

how do we feel about this? the percentages are based on a new risk mechanic where chances for things can dynamically change

[vernal hare]

mhm..

im listening to everything

theres things that increase risk, or the negative chance

and ways to reduce it too

every ante increases risk by 10%

and you can take it back down for sure

[harsh glacier]

can you exceed 100% risk

[vernal hare]

Nope

[harsh minnow]

interesting mechanic

[full edge]

Hard mechanic to judge without playing with it, honestly. Has a lot of moving parts

[vernal hare]

its a 0-100 value

[full edge]

But it seems fun, at least

[harsh minnow]

but yeah, hard to balance without playing it

[vernal hare]

reducing risk is valuable

i may change this to like

50%

because this feels like a tough pick if its not super powerful in exchange

[harsh minnow]

depends on how many things will increase risk

other than antes

[full edge]

And what odds are impacted by risk

Because playing around risk might be easier than reducing it

[vernal hare]

most things im modding in that have a negative alternate effect use risk

like one is called 'Trojan Horse' that has X4 Mult but if risk is above 50% it has some negative effect that i havent planned around yet

[harsh minnow]

because 50% decrease means that only 2 uses set it to 0 all the time

[vernal hare]

but you will have 2 pinned eternal jokers now

[harsh minnow]

so unless it rises fast it's a bit much

[vernal hare]

so thats a thing to consider

[full edge]

I think the biggest issue will be finding the right line to walk where risk is an interesting trade-off, rather than discouragement

[harsh minnow]

oh, it's random

[vernal hare]

yeah

[harsh minnow]

i missed that

well, it still depends on a lot of things

[full edge]

Players tend to avoid feel-bad events, so there's a reasonable chance that people just stop engaging with it when risk gets to high

[harsh minnow]

yeah, otherwise you either end up never using the risky cards, or it barely being a downside

[harsh minnow]

this is also true

[vernal hare]

yeah..

[harsh minnow]

i think risky effects should be like, 20% more powerful just to balance the fact that players will avoid them if possible

[full edge]

There's some really interesting design articles for magic the gathering detailing how some chance based mechanics, or 'feel bad' mechanics made players avoid them, even if they were actually very powerful

The stick hits harder than the carrot tastes good

[vernal hare]

so ritual cards also play off of the fact that EVERYTHING in there is a trade off

they're powerful, but they have a cost

[harsh minnow]

yeah, players aren't fully rational

[harsh minnow]

no cap on the gain?

[full edge]

I will say, this is a variant on my least used nubby item, haha

[vernal hare]

o thats a great point

what should the cap be

$100?

[harsh minnow]

maybe

[full edge]

If I have a lot of money, doubling it is a very bad reward if the risk is losing it all

[vernal hare]

since theres a negative effect chance

[harsh minnow]

definitely more than hermit

[vernal hare]

if you control it then the risk is negligable

[heavy roost]

also are the percentage chances something that could be an X in Y chance instead?

or is that deliberate

[vernal hare]

i do it like this to make it distinct from vanilla probability

i have cards that use the X in Y system

[heavy roost]

oh it's the risk system I seeeee

that's on me for not scrolling back

[harsh minnow]

yeah i think it should be separate

[heavy roost]

I dig it, I dig it

[vernal hare]

i may also make jokers that work better when risk is high

[full edge]

I mean, even at 20/30% the chances might already be quite impactful. But yeah, that's true, it's all about walking that line

[full edge]

Good choice. It's definitely a lot more interesting if there's a positive to high risk runs

[vernal hare]

'Adrenaline Junkie' that works better when risk is above 50%

no clue what it'd do

i lowk wanna redesign galactical cards

they kind of look ugly rn

[full edge]

I think an interesting mechanic there, btw, would be to increase the cap with the risk

[vernal hare]

how would it even work above 100%?

[full edge]

Risk cannot go above 100%, no?

[vernal hare]

right

[full edge]

A joker that'd increase interest based on risk might also be interested

[vernal hare]

ooh

[full edge]

I haven't found the line I wanna walk either, but it's one of my favorite design spaces, haha. I have a lot of jokers in Kino that do similar things

[west wolf]

what if i made a fanart contest for my mod...

[vernal hare]

what do we think of this so far

the pixel is just my cursor

[harsh minnow]

the colors are very dark compared to the vanilla palette

[west wolf]

wait better idea

what if i started a modded joker fanart contest

like in general

[vernal hare]

?

nah

[ashen thunder]

@umbral pilot Yo, Any updates on the gamepass modding scene?

Sorry to disturb you

[dull stump]

Hi all, ive got a quick question. Am looking at getting in to Balatro modding but wondering how the testing side gose? Is there an easy why to "Debug"?

[vernal hare]

old v new purified card

[polar oyster]

debugplus (with too many joker)

[dull stump]

Ill give a look thanks for the info.

[polar oyster]

Yay, i made peak (ignore lags)

i love mkv

[harsh glacier]

a reminder theres a remux button in obs

to turn it into mp4

blame discord for not supporting mkv

[polar oyster]

My computer is so laggy that I can't use it.

[harsh glacier]

how is your computer that bad 😭

my computer is ASS and remuxing that takes 4 seconds tops

[polar oyster]

wait

omg

test

yay music in balatro

[harsh glacier]

i should probably test if mechanic works fine with stuff like banner and too many jokers because it uses the collection page to pick a joker lmao

[tough vigil]

ok so i need some Thoughts on a joker's art

the art in question kind of needs two figures in it

obviously one of them would be Jimbo like every other joker

but theres no official joker with two guys in it

how do ppl solve this/prefer this to be solved

(ignoring acrobat where they're abstracted)

[plush hound]

like doing what?

[tough vigil]

its called Carpool and so im trying to depict a crowded car

i found a good composition for it but thered be two guys

[swift matrix]

here's how many of each rarity i apperent;y have

[swift matrix]

tbh that's like... shokingly proportional with the main game

[plush hound]

probably 2 Jimbo's arguing?

[tough vigil]

maybe i can have one just be a chauffeur in jimbo's makeup

[plush hound]

or do the classic Todd / Steven

[tough vigil]

naw the scene doesnt matter so much its just deciding who the second guy is

[swift matrix]

eval my script with your 4k jokers when you can

[tough vigil]

tru

[plush hound]

on it soon

i am SICK as of now

[swift matrix]

no woeeies :3 hope you feel better soon

[plush hound]

as i said, Todd / Steven would work but up to you

[plush hound]

tytyy

[tough vigil]

mm

[plush hound]

there's also

uhh

[vernal hare]

you should do the ‘cartoon character in car with real person’ trope

[plush hound]

Suits / Rank Jokers

they're all Jimbo's in different colors

[full edge]

Jen Joker and James Marsden

[plush hound]

that too

[tough vigil]

i pretty much just assumed all those jokers were jimbo in a different fit honestly

mans doing a lot of identity theft

[swift matrix]

one should be throwback, lol. he''s his own person

I'm biased though

[plush hound]

Throwback and Vagabond

rich v poor

[full edge]

You can't do car art and not go for Jen, though

[tough vigil]

i think jen IS jimbo

just legal name and out-of-costume

cant have a hat on a license

i mean you cant have makeup either but maybe he just Looks Like That

anyhow im having one guy in the back and one guy in the front visible

im gonna put jimbo in the back

and maybe a chauffeur with jimbo makeup in the front

[vernal hare]

that’s his skin

[tough vigil]

exacly

[full edge]

Jen isn't Jimbo, Jimbo's name is Jimbo, while Jen Joker is named Jen Joker, of course

[stiff marsh]

Anyone played cryptid able to give some advice on it

[tough vigil]

jimbo is a stage name i think

[swift matrix]

Do not the deer skull

[full edge]

Sure

[tough vigil]

clowns dont tend to perform under their legal name

[swift matrix]

(I haven't played cryptid)

[full edge]

Jimbo out of character is Ben Starr, tbh

[swift matrix]

and in any case... would

[stiff marsh]

I think it's supposed to be a wendigo

[full edge]

(though not actually, I think Thunk's said Jimbo's real name is Gary McGary, haha)

[swift matrix]

I know, but it's funnier to just say deer skull

which is what the head of this type of psuedo-folkloric wendigo is anyway

[wraith seal]

what the hell

[full edge]

On gameplay, or crash related stuff, btw? There's a very active cryptid discord that's probably better at giving build advice and such, haha

[wraith seal]

joker lore??

[swift matrix]

Wait... did Jen Walker use the name Jen Walker before balatro? or is that a balatro pseudonym based on the joker, Jen Joker?

lol

didn't remember what the driver's licesnse even said

[plush hound]

i love the fanmade jen joker exotic so much

[harsh glacier]

what where

[tough vigil]

thunk and jimbo are in cahoots

[swift matrix]

Jimbo is a tulpa that lives in thunk's head

[gloomy mural]

me before the help command in debugplus: damn what do i do with this

me after help command:

I AM BALATRO CREATIVE MODE

[swift matrix]

oh... i didn't even think to run a help

[plush hound]

hold on

[swift matrix]

and i've been writing scripts and running them with it, lol

[swift matrix]

.

[polar oyster]

Clowns?

Omg clowns

[gloomy mural]

debugs are supposed to have the stuff that changes values

including money, hands and discards

and also the values of individual cards

basically you can make a X4 mult jimbo

[swift matrix]

well yeah, i'm just not that interested in that sort of usage atm

[harsh glacier]

i can confirm this i have met jimbo in real life

[swift matrix]

I've been using it more as a lua runner that has access to the game's memory

[gloomy mural]

now how do i change a card's edition/enhancement via debugplus

[wraith seal]

ctrl + Q, ctrl + W

[swift matrix]

in addition to all the stuff without the console i do to test

like apwning cards with 3

and ll that

[plush hound]

he kinda bad tho..

[swift matrix]

so... is Jen an androgynous name and I just never knew it? First Jen walker than Jen Joker

[harsh minnow]

jen joker is canonically female i think

[swift matrix]

I never knew that like... it wasn't seen excludively as a girl's name in the "traditional" sense. I don't care about that shit, just is interesting to me

[swift matrix]

ah, fair

[wanton rapids]

iirc the name on driver's license was changed from jeb joker to jen joker

[swift matrix]

redneck erasure, smh

[swift matrix]

re there sterotpical bogan names like there's sterotypical redneck names?

[wanton rapids]

thank you teto

[harsh minnow]

it's a very good word ngl

good choice teto

[plush hound]

bulk bogan

[normal hollow]

cinco de mayo

[plush hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362528734300733640/1369357225574797352/image.png?ex=681d8b0c&is=681c398c&hm=ed6f0f49b77ce9bb5880c0deae2e92ad4ab732252821b8275849c1dfd90119c1&

finally

[junior rock]

does anyone have a Google sheets / excel template for joker ideas with rarities and colours and stuff

[polar oyster]

Between -10000000x and ^100

[junior rock]

should be between 1.79769 x 10^308 and 1.79769 X 10^-308

[plush hound]

break the game

[plush hound]

You could use Balatro Hevven spreadsheets for reference methinks

[plush hound]

@dreamy abyss

[vernal hare]

some ideas i’ve thought of

[tough vigil]

heres my sketch for carpool

please appreciate jimbos stare

[junior rock]

pleeeease 🐈 @dreamy abyss

I cannot find it

[vocal vine]

is noisy better than polychrome in cryptid mod

[wind turtle]

No.

[vocal vine]

gotcha

ty

[grand geode]

how are people not tired of this genuinely

[swift matrix]

I just don't get like... how much all those leading 0s can matter. 99.9% of values even in something batshit like Jen's must approach 0 far before that

[austere kindle]

is it possible to mod the pc gamepass version of balatro

[normal hollow]

not yet

[wraith seal]

is that an entire mod dedicated to just adding misprint decks??

[full edge]

People love seeing a driver's license that needs ten million enhanced cards to start working

[wraith seal]

i still wonder if they can fuck up my bsr jokers' pages

surely not

[swift matrix]

If whatever you mean is a value in the confug table, yes

[tropic egret]

i HATE rng

[wraith seal]

fuck

[tropic egret]

misprint deck more like mispr deck of how i want to reject whatever pull request that adds it i n.

[swift matrix]

I mean fuck man it's kinda impositional to care what other mods do to yours

[tropic egret]

well ye i don't actually care

i was about to tack on a /j to that message but eh .

personally i think the greatest sin about misprint deck is how i have to unhardcode all my jokers to use loc vars for the numbers and tbh i should've been doing that in the first place

i'm pretty sure some of my older jokers break other mods jokers because of that bad code

[normal hollow]

i have a lot of jokers that do a for loop for 1 for that reason lol

but idk why if my mod crashes with cryptid apparently

[signal pendant]

Is modding the game possible if I have it from game pass?

[wind token]

me watching my shader just not work bc i looked at it funny

[wraith seal]

not now

[normal hollow]

#⚙・modding-general message

[neon orchid]

Nah it’s actually cause I intentionally fucked it up

[wind token]

how dare you

[neon orchid]

I’m evil like that

[swift matrix]

Yeah like... my take is it's good design to hard code or not card card things because misprint would make things fucky in a crashy or unplayable way, bad design to do it it out of spite or because it'd be unbalanced

[tropic egret]

oh yeah absolutely don't do it for like

card ranks

das bad

maybe store it as a string.

but not id

[tropic egret]

me when i play my flush consisting of a 4 of hearts, 8 of hearts, 10 of hearts, Jack with wild enhancement, and a 3894720981928 of hearts

[wraith seal]

i honestly think misprint shouldve gone with the same approach of force-trigger, only affecting jokers with a certain flag

[swift matrix]

No one would like that one bit

It'd be like... parasitic af too. Not like I play cryptid but still

[wraith seal]

🤔 it is?

well, is there something to make it so your jokers cant be affected by misprint at least, i should probably take care of that

[swift matrix]

Yeah like it'd badically only work on cryptid cards then which is kinda the definition of parasitic in this sense

[swift matrix]

Only do it if it causes stability or gameplay issues not just because you can

[wraith seal]

it does

my jokers rely on a value in the config to see how many pages they have

[swift matrix]

Yeah that's very fair then

[wraith seal]

if they are affected then the entire code breaks

actually

it might be worse than i thought

😭

[tropic egret]

something shouldnt be relying on other people's ability to add flags to work

[swift matrix]

*cough* talisman bignum *cough*

[west hill]

People also shouldn’t care if using a certain mod breaks their own

[tropic egret]

that's like me asking your age before giving you alcohol and taking your word for it

[swift matrix]

They kinda should? Mod compat is a good priority

Just not yours

Luckily ortalab works fine with my 70 mods

[west hill]

people 100% shouldn't worry about cryptid causing issues in their mod

that is not a healthy mod environment

[tropic egret]

cryptid has the weirdest shite in the 🍝

but like. saying a joker is a food joker!! is fine

you should do that i think

[swift matrix]

Cryptid is an outlier but normal content nods should try not to crash or break (in the glitch sense) eachother

Imo

[tropic egret]

well. conflicting lovely patches

[west hill]

oh of course, I was meaning specifically things like misprint deck

changing your entire coding pattern around a possiblity (looking at you talisman) isn't healthy

[tropic egret]

is there like an opposite of a dependency

"DO NOT INTERACT"

[normal hollow]

a conflict

[tropic egret]

"WILL CRASH AND BURN"

[normal hollow]

like you can literally specify a conflict in your mods metadata

[tropic egret]

oh cool

[wraith seal]

i will crash your entire pc if you run my mod with cryptid

[tropic egret]

that's impressive lua usually doesn't do that

[normal hollow]

my problem with it is that it doesnt disable lovely patches

[toxic cloud]

I dieded

[swift matrix]

I hope people don't start putting talisman there

because it's not an actual conflict with like anything

if you run it on vanillia

[wraith seal]

im still curious on how much fps your running

[normal hollow]

? talisman literally conflicts with a ton of mods

its like the most conflicting mod

[swift matrix]

the bignim checks do not happen in vanillia mode

[toxic cloud]

I'm playing on my Windows laptop this time, so it should be a solid >100

[normal hollow]

yes they do

look at the dump

[swift matrix]

I assure you if they did my modpack would crash all the time

[swift matrix]

that's weird

i guess is should check

[wraith seal]

oh lol, nice

[swift matrix]

but like... i never get talisman crashes

[wraith seal]

thought ur still running the game on that mac

then i would actually consider donating some money to you, ngl 😭

[swift matrix]

I hardly like talisman btw, i just use it because some mods require it

not a talisman stan or fan

[wraith seal]

like, modding on a pc that runs balatro at 20 fps in average is crazy

🥀

[normal hollow]

i mean i think theres no reason to add conflicts but if someone did i wouldnt blame them

[tropic egret]

well there are probably good reasons

[toxic cloud]

I'm trying to experience my mod, now with jokerdisplay compat

[tropic egret]

like. full game crashes with no idea why they happen or something

[wraith seal]

whats ur mod btw

[toxic cloud]

jokerdisplay on Mac is a whole hell of an experience

[normal hollow]

yeah in this situation i mean

[toxic cloud]

3 fps

[west hill]

I think my current stance is to recommend adding talisman as a conflict

[tropic egret]

oh yeah sure

[normal hollow]

u could say that when im not in the room 😭

[tropic egret]

i mean you can just say "Talisman. if brek is not my fault"

[wraith seal]

no but they literally run vanilla balatro (or at least, modded balatro with minimal mods) at 20 fps, thats not your fault N' 😭

[west hill]

at least, until they fix their table comparison crap

[hot loom]

should i try to make a mod based on gaming references, based on cats or both at the same time

[tropic egret]

i wonder how bad vanilla balatro can run

[normal hollow]

it's also funny to see this with my mod honestly

[spring lynx]

Someone help me

[tropic egret]

paperback .

oh uhhhh

[toxic cloud]

missing primary_colour

[tropic egret]

wait

[wraith seal]

i

i still dont understand how people cook with joyousspring

[normal hollow]

no idea

[wraith seal]

401 jokers is crazy

[normal hollow]

i barely get 7 jokers or so

[spring lynx]

I'm waiting don't worry

[wraith seal]

the most i could get is like, 50 jokers?

[tropic egret]

yeah tbh i don't know

[wraith seal]

and thats with the joker that creates debuffed extra deck jokers every round or something lol

[tropic egret]

is your smods updated

[wraith seal]

506a is pretty new

so i dont think thats an issue

[tropic egret]

yeah that's what i thought

probably just Thing Broken Ask Devs

[wraith seal]

thats likely because they set up SMODS.ConsumableType wrong

[tropic egret]

aka, TooBAD

[spring lynx]

tf ?

[tropic egret]

yeah the mod devs probably coded wrong

[wraith seal]

is that the latest version of paperback, by the way?

[tropic egret]

just do a bug report

[wraith seal]

-# wait why did i use by the way instead of btw

[tropic egret]

oh yeah that's also a good question

did you get this from mod manager or something

[spring lynx]

smods ? I just downloaded it from the github page

[spring lynx]

just like paperback

[tropic egret]

hm

and you did it like

code -> download zip right

[spring lynx]

And there also were errors with ortalab like zodiac cards not working

[spring lynx]

😬 nope

[spring lynx]

which one ?

[tropic egret]

i don't have the funny image on me right now so i will make my own

[spring lynx]

so ? what do I need to do ? Install smods like you asked ?

[tropic egret]

maybe try doing this for everything

[wraith seal]

dont do that with joyousspring

[tropic egret]

dont do that with joyousspring

[gilded vortex]

Don’t do that with my mod

[gilded vortex]

Get my mod’s release

[wraith seal]

hi victin

[gilded vortex]

-# https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1343670935122870342