⚙・modding-general

[mystic fossil]

Open debug plus folder and send the contents

youve fucked smth up

[faint gorge]

or wait, i'll try something

[mystic fossil]

royally

[tough vigil]

i have a rly stupid idea for a hand rename but its probably Mean to do

[north plover]

unfortunate

[tough vigil]

4oak + Pair = Fool's House (its just a 4oak, the pair isnt scored)

[mystic fossil]

odd looks fine

[tough vigil]

bro why do you react to my every post with 🤔

[lost bolt]

my run earlier today, 2 retriggers goes crazy with ancient

[gray cove]

✋ 😐🤚

Absolute Cinema chat

[swift matrix]

my ass needs to actually play balatro for once

but alas whet I'll probably do instead is try to get another release out of my modpack

lol

what's funny os smods 0506a is already the version in my modpack despite doing it like.... 8 houes before the release was made

[fallow bramble]

Coonie did you see I updated my mod?

[swift matrix]

oooh nice, another reason to update my pack

[idle frost]

hi guys is there any tutorial on how to mod?

[fallow bramble]

As in how to play or how to make mods?

[idle frost]

mb i meant how to play mods

[wicked jasper]

get steamodded

[fallow bramble]

Not sure if this guide is outdated but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfxnwHO134

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1349064230825103441

[idle frost]

i havent used it ever does it work like vortex?

thanks guys

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

[whole nova]

@wind turtle what does a 5️⃣ mean ⁉️

5️⃣

[swift matrix]

Somethingcom's reacts are a conlang to themselves

[mystic fossil]

ive lost it truly

why big

[swift matrix]

same tho, but that's nothing new

[swift matrix]

what is this?

[mystic fossil]

Last feature of ModProfiles before I upload it

but UI is biting me in the ass

[swift matrix]

ah i see, what;s the thing that's too big, the modified mods box?

[mystic fossil]

I found the thing

its the column

[swift matrix]

that's as small as can be with the text though

[mystic fossil]

the column that aligngs the text and the Modified Mods box

Solved

[candid yew]

enjoyed crypted and jens almanac. did c++. any sugg or good mods/packs, either crazy like crypted or simple that goes well with gold stake/other challenges, jsut looking for smth w/ thought and effort put in that ppl think plays well

[mystic fossil]

I put the modifed mods into a row, So its Column > Row|Row>Column

[swift matrix]

oh this is what you were going for, i see

[mystic fossil]

How would I get padding between here

between Fake Mod and 2:

[warm cipher]

seems others are having this issue, but any pointers for this? not sure why talisman is just breaking super hard

(cardsauce is installed because i was installing an update for it)

idk if i just temporarily uninstall it+cryptid or what

[mystic fossil]

Turns out i wasnt watching my lua file, im stupid.

[timber brook]

that's so cool!
although it is a direct upgrade to wee joker, but I'm not one to judge balance of modded jokers lol

[tough vigil]

might add a joker or 2 to go with this small mod but idk if its a little dumb to make jokers that rely on a specific voucher

[whole nova]

true, but hey there's always time to balance lol

[gilded vortex]

Nice but why is the art Discord

[tough vigil]

natural habitat of the polycule

[wicked jasper]

polycule group chat

i didn't know how to properly convey a polycule so i just used the way i communicate with mine

(discord)

[gray cove]

Prrr prrr

[wicked jasper]

so true

[swift matrix]

geeze, yall have been busy, this is only like 36 hours worth of updates

[lunar ravine]

holy shit it spells joker thats brilliant

[vernal hare]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Ouch

i’m gonna make a mr ouch joker

[mystic fossil]

Im starting to get reallly good at UI

need to set minw tho, so the columns are equal, and figure out why theres a big ass gap and the bottom

Which is better, "Modified" in the center, or on the left?

[vernal hare]

modified in the center

my eyes are more drawn to it

@mystic fossil

[mystic fossil]

Thats understandable. Id like to get atleast 1 other opinion but chat died ig

[mystic fossil]

@round pilot hey friend vote

[round pilot]

center

[gray cove]

John

JOHN BALATRO

[round pilot]

no

jon TooManyDecks

[mystic fossil]

jon

not john

🤓

[round pilot]

named after my brother in law, jon ###########

[prisma hearth]

the reverie mod dont work for me help got it from github

[swift matrix]

Lol Thunk should change his display name to that

join the trend

[gray cove]

Real

[harsh minnow]

i think he may have already done that once

i have a vague memory of it

[whole nova]

that's probably my favorite thing about it lol

[prisma hearth]

^

[swift matrix]

get the forkm from jumbocarrot

i'll link

[timber brook]

my favorite mod name that I came up with is "AFewDex" lol

[prisma hearth]

why is git hub not best for it?

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/jumbocarrot0/reverie/

it is, it's just outdated from the original maker

someone else fixed it to work now

still github

[prisma hearth]

k

[gilded vortex]

🤔

[west hill]

definitely centred

[swift matrix]

so i prefer the left alligned

well maybe not

i'll say i'm neutral

[mystic fossil]

Personally, more left aligned, but centered yknow?

[swift matrix]

I see the merits of both

[whole nova]

i agree with centered

[gilded vortex]

I prefer centered here because it separates the title from the options

[west hill]

also those button colours

[cold marsh]

tf do i do here

[west hill]

why are they that way round 🤮

[gilded vortex]

Maybe the button colors are right but the text is wrong

[swift matrix]

just like they had the active option be gray on that one thing, lol

[mystic fossil]

errr no nvm.

[gilded vortex]

"Yes" on the right, Japanese style

[mystic fossil]

For the profile name?

[swift matrix]

yeah this looks like a rendering error

[west hill]

for confirm and cancel

why is confirm red and cancel green

[mystic fossil]

Because Red means no good

[swift matrix]

confirm being red and cancel being green, but i can see it

[mystic fossil]

You have unsaved changes

save them to your current profile before loading

[prisma hearth]

thx

[gilded vortex]

Red suggests importance here IMO

[swift matrix]

oh you might wana make it 'yes and no' then confirm is a too possitve of word

[gilded vortex]

So I'd expect players to want to click the red button

[west hill]

red = stop, green = go

[mystic fossil]

mmm

[gilded vortex]

red = important which implies you should press the red button

[swift matrix]

snd withc their position

[mystic fossil]

"Discard Changes" maybe?

[swift matrix]

no, red makes sense as a yes you don't wanna push

but also maybe make it kinda gray

[west hill]

is the intended outcome to push the cancel button?

[swift matrix]

i see that convention a lot

[mystic fossil]

Yes

[gilded vortex]

I think red makes sense as a button you want to push

[swift matrix]

yes, it's like the "exit without saving changes to untitled" dialog

[west hill]

I would probably brightly colour that one then, and then make the other one grey

[gilded vortex]

and green as a button you don't want to push

Red grabs attention more

[swift matrix]

that makes no sense

victin you uh... have weird takes

but that's fine, i do too

[gilded vortex]

If the background were red, then you wouldn't want to press the red button but rather the green button

[mystic fossil]

UX wise green indicates the prefered option in dialogs

[gilded vortex]

But with the grey background, the red pops more

[mystic fossil]

red is negative

[swift matrix]

when i see a red button i exercise caution

[gilded vortex]

I think red indicates "highlighted" which indicates I should press it

[swift matrix]

not with a green button

[gilded vortex]

But a big red button exists to be pressed

[mystic fossil]

I could dim the red, but I got a small problem to solve first

[swift matrix]

in a shitpost kinda way, sure

but not standard ux

[gilded vortex]

The standard Balatro UX uses red buttons

[swift matrix]

that is a good point

[gilded vortex]

Every button you want to press in Balatro is red

[whole nova]

ux was made up by evil people from hell

[swift matrix]

all the buttons are red so the standard ux rules don't apply

tbh.... I think the actual fix isn't as much with the colors and more adding more text to make it read as a warning @mystic fossil

[mystic fossil]

so true

[west hill]

it should follow this convention

[swift matrix]

nvm

it does that already

[swift matrix]

yes this

[mystic fossil]

I like actually playing my games, rather than immediately hitting close

[swift matrix]

lol yeah this si true

[gilded vortex]

But inside other menus buttons are red

[mystic fossil]

menus of mal-importance also i realize

[gilded vortex]

mal-importance?

[swift matrix]

just make the button inactive colored, they'll realize they can push it anyway if they wanna bad enough

[mystic fossil]

im making up words

[swift matrix]

it sounds like it means the menus have negative importance

which i don't get

[gilded vortex]

Skrongulous

[mystic fossil]

you'll get there i believe

there you go

[swift matrix]

:P

[gilded vortex]

I also have an issue with button pairs

If you have three buttons, you can tell which one is selected by color

But if you have two buttons, you can't

Balatro doesn't work like this, exactly

But that's part of the reason I think the button you're not meant to click should be grey or a muted color

[gilded vortex]

I don't know which button is selected here, for example

[mystic fossil]

Neither

if it was selected, it would be dark

both of them are light, so neither are selected

[mystic fossil]

Grey/red pair was 100% not the selection I thought would be the highest.

[gilded vortex]

As I had said, red begets attention

That's why traffic lights usually use red for "stop", right?

So drivers notice it and stop

[gilded vortex]

There's something weird with that confirm button

There's like a darker rounded rectangle on the bottom left

[west hill]

that looks better

[swift matrix]

it's shading?

but the cancel button dloesn't have it yeah

idk why

[gilded vortex]

Yeah

but the shading also looks wrong

Like the 3D shape it suggests is wrong

[swift matrix]

i think that's a balatro ui engine thing tbh

[idle fjord]

in cases like these cancel tends to be on the left
reading left to right the 'advancement' option is placed on the left, but the advancement here is cancelling, so cancel should be on the left

[swift matrix]

yes i agree

i said to swap the order too

[mystic fossil]

Ehhhhh

The order is losely based off of editing programs, and it just feels more 'right' to me.

[swift matrix]

yeah nvm

i was getting mixed up

[idle fjord]

those are different contexts

this isnt a save vs dont save this is a load without saving vs dont do that

[swift matrix]

they really aren't

"don't save" is just the confirm button here

[mystic fossil]

This is a save context

[swift matrix]

and cancel is cancel

[mystic fossil]

It is urging you to save your profile before loading another one

[swift matrix]

why doesn't it have the save button itself on it btw?

[idle fjord]

in that case that should be communicated better

this reads to me as do you want to load without saving

[mystic fossil]

Its entirely because I made a boilerplate Overlay/Dialog function for the 3 buttons (Delete/Save/Load)

[swift matrix]

like a "save and load" on it

and keep the other save button too

most programs work like that

[idle fjord]

save and load would be great

instead of the vague 'confirm'

[swift matrix]

confirm loads without saving

[idle fjord]

oh my god

😭

[stark maple]

whats the best balatro mod manager?

[mystic fossil]

do we not read?

[swift matrix]

"discard and load"

[idle fjord]

wait yes this was correct then wtf

[swift matrix]

am I doing the not reading thing, or do i understand it?

[mystic fossil]

I was just reacting to the "oh my god" but i wasnt sure what relevation gerat came up with

[mystic fossil]

2nd part was yea

[mystic fossil]

Yknow maybe that misconception is why Red won here

[idle fjord]

the examples were
'changes will be lost if you dont save here <save <dont save'
this is 'you have unsaved changes, you sure you want to load? <load without saving <wait a second'
those are different

[slow sapphire]

how do i fix this crash while using aikoyoris shenanigans

[mystic fossil]

okay yea Im seeing what youre getting at

[swift matrix]

well it's like the close button

basically

[mystic fossil]

'Cancel' is what the menu wants you to click

[idle fjord]

then those examples hav the button you want them to click

on the left

[slow sapphire]

can someone help me with the crash

[swift matrix]

i think there should be three options, one to save and load the new prodile, one to load the old profile and one to continue editing

imo

if i'm understanding it right

[idle fjord]

my b chief ill let the people smarter than me help you out
back to the void i go

[fallow bramble]

Post it here and they'll answer you whenever they're online https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1326135270759993364

[frosty umbra]

Hi how can i get mod whit the xbox gamepass version pls ?

[swift matrix]

wait no

it's load per mod profile

so the load is whichever one yyou pciked

[stark maple]

does anyone know how to fix this? its in the lovely card.lua andeverytime i add the missing end value it just reverts back to how it was when i launch

[swift matrix]

so yeah 'save changes; 'cancel' 'discard changes'

[swift matrix]

@mystic fossil

and then it loads the profile you seleced

if you push anything but cancel

[wind turtle]

Not currently.

[swift matrix]

it's in the workd but not possible yet

it'll take a lot of work but it's being done

[stark maple]

anyone able to help with my crash?, if not thats okay but thanks if possible

[swift matrix]

don't ask to ask

just post crash and we can look

[stark maple]

i did

[swift matrix]

oh sorry

my b

[stark maple]

its alright

[swift matrix]

yes this works

[mystic fossil]

psure thats not what that is. "hey am i allowed to ask for crash support here?" would be

[swift matrix]

i didn't think they already sent it

[gilded vortex]

The card.lua in lovely/dump is just a copy of the real card.lua post-patch. One or more of your mods isn't patching properly.

Possibly, one mod isn't applying a patch correctly because of another mod's patch

[mystic fossil]

lovely/dump is compiled at runtime, editing it doesnt work like that

[swift matrix]

do you have bunco?

[stark maple]

yeah

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/jumbocarrot0/bunco

use this version of bunco

[stark maple]

alright thanks

[swift matrix]

np :3

[stark maple]

that worked tysm

straight into another crash

gonna cry

[swift matrix]

the old bunco link was still on the wiki, i just fixed it myself

so hopefully this happens less

[swift matrix]

post it

[swift matrix]

which version of fusionjokers is that?

and azzy's jokers has compat issues ngl

big ones

[stark maple]

whichevers listed on bmm

im starting to think its a bit outdated

ill try get the neweest version see if that fixes anyhting

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/wingedcatgirl/Fusion-Jokers

see if replacing it with this helps

this is the newest version

and if it doesn't see if deleting azzy's jokers helps

[stark maple]

i did both same error

[swift matrix]

idk what that one think is

the jimbomod

or whatever

jollymod

i mean

jollimod ig

[stark maple]

same thing when i removed that so im not sure

thats the current crash

[swift matrix]

must be beelatro then

because i know for a fact everything else works

[stark maple]

yeah it was

[swift matrix]

oh that makes sense

beelatro is a cryptid expansion

you don't havew cryptid

[stark maple]

ah lmaoo

[fluid tide]

[swift matrix]

@lavish vessel why isn't it listed as a depend in the json?

it shouldn't just crash

[fluid tide]

Basically my first fusion build lol

[stark maple]

it didnt like that with cryptid either lmao said it was missing talisman so i probably have an old version ill fix that now

[swift matrix]

oh yeah check github for the actual proper versions of talisman and cryptid

they aren't special other repos though

so they'll come up fine

just don't dl the releases

justt the green code button instead

[stark maple]

i got it ty

[swift matrix]

and this is why i feel bmm is useless, lol

at least you can get nexus mods without a nexus account or messing around with that shit

one benefit

but whoever doesn't put their mods on github is... strange

[stark maple]

thats a good point

so many new decks

i love this game

[winged charm]

how strong would you guys say this is?

(Rank and Edition change every hand played)```

[gilded vortex]

I mean, some mods can't be on GitHub

[gilded vortex]

which Editions can it apply

[swift matrix]

besides the types of mods we can't talk about here, idk any

but yes those

the nsfw ones i mean

[winged charm]

any

my wifi just plummeted

[plush hound]

sorry

[winged charm]

ty for apologising

i was blaming you so

[gilded vortex]

hello nxkoo how are you

[errant zephyr]

The wifi looked so tasty

[winged charm]

glad you owned up and apologised

[plush hound]

FUCK your wifi

>:(

[gilded vortex]

not the wifi too

[winged charm]

you would do that wouldnt you

[plush hound]

(DEROGATORY)

[errant zephyr]

Would you wife the wifi

[plush hound]

haaaaaaiiiiiii

[winged charm]

how does it know

[gilded vortex]

hello nxkoo how are you (derogatory)

[plush hound]

i just woke up

[plush hound]

thank you vivton

victin

[gilded vortex]

wrong keyboard configuration?

[winged charm]

no i just pressed the wrong keys and it knows what i was looking for lmao

[gilded vortex]

Or maybe right configuration but word distance based on key distance

[slow sapphire]

idk how to fix

[gilded vortex]

Ask in Aikoyori's thread and wait until they wake up

[swift matrix]

it probably uses an alogirthm that takes into account how far apart the keys are

which is smart

[winged charm]

technology...

[gilded vortex]

alogirthm

[swift matrix]

I... also cun't type

[slow sapphire]

is there a way to fix it tho

[swift matrix]

yes that typo is intentional and intentionally dirty

[gilded vortex]

The way to fix it is to ask Aiko

I'm not Aiko

[fluid tide]

Very cool

[gilded vortex]

Although I don't see Aiko's mod on your list

Maybe you didn't install it correctly

Or someone else messed up when adding crossmod content

[swift matrix]

this si just cheating, lol. but no shade on that, the game is your bitch, fuck it as you may

[novel heron]

Balatro-Aikoyoris-Shenanigans-0.2.0-alpha-250506b 💀

[swift matrix]

idk why i said it like that

[gilded vortex]

Fun effect

[novel heron]

shouldn't it be an smods mod?

[swift matrix]

the lovely mods list showing smods mods is fine i think, but they should show up as smods mods too at least

[fluid tide]

Your point makes sense, although I like to see this as a buff to tags.

[normal hollow]

is the folder nested

[swift matrix]

I think the modder might have to do something to make that not happen, but idk

maybe it shouldn't if they have the same id

and there is something wrong

[whole nova]

my mod is at v1.1.1 make a wish everybody

[slow sapphire]

wdym nested

[mystic fossil]

yap yap

[gilded vortex]

folder inside of a folder

[slow sapphire]

no

[twin pine]

is there a lovely flag to change which folder it looks at for mods

[mystic fossil]

okay

[twin pine]

I think there is but I forgot what it actually is 😭

[twin pine]

thanks n'

[mystic fossil]

Loading a profile, Unsaved changes: Load and Save, load without Saving, Cancel
Loading a profile, Selected Profile and no unsaved: Confirm (Green), Cancel
Loading a profile, No Selected Profile: Confirm (Red), Cancel ( maybe thinking to add a Create and Save )
@swift matrix

[stark maple]

well whoops

[swift matrix]

what does it mean to be loading a profile with none selcted

like if you have changes somewhere in the void? idk how the ux works in full

[mystic fossil]

Like anything in your mods dir is only there

there is no profile associated with it

at all

[swift matrix]

yeah if there can't be unsaved changes then a 'create and save' is probably irrelevent

but i may be thinking about it wrong

oh i see actually

yeah 'create and save' would make some sense actually i think

[stark maple]

new one lmao

[novel heron]

talisman moment

[swift matrix]

so.... this can only be avoidied consistently without mod comptibility being added by the mod maker, if you put talisman in vaniillia mode

[swift matrix]

which would still work in cryptid, but would change the expereince a fair bit

I'd report it in #1227317656131211284 and @ the current maintainer

[stark maple]

should i jsut post the crashlog idk what to say lol

[swift matrix]

yeah, post it and say there seems to be talisman compat issues with bignum, but keep it mind it'll be a lot of work for them to fix if it isn't bignum compatible at all

so, you might have to either just not play fusion, or live with talisman being in vanillia mode for the forseeable future

but report it regardless

[swift matrix]

yeah this works

[stark maple]

ill not play fusion lol

[swift matrix]

so... completely random, has anyone realized that the @ suggestions suck now?

[mystic fossil]

gc check dms

[swift matrix]

typing in parts of the displayname doesn't work anymore

[swift matrix]

will do

[mystic fossil]

I can see that

[fallow bramble]

I love Xmult jokers

[stark maple]

okay i think i beat it

[swift matrix]

oh it decided to start working again

i tried to @ both wilson and mys and jonh and mys and minty weren't working

now they are

[mystic fossil]

eh. instead of matching someone with exactly "guset" in order, it matched "gus"XXXXX"e"XX"t"

first

[swift matrix]

yeah it's not ideal, but it's working better

they must be actively fuckibng with it

[lavish vessel]

Pretty sure we did add it as a dependency, not sure why it isnt picking it up.

[swift matrix]

i think this needs to be a table?

and the authors should be a string, right?

[lavish vessel]

This isnt using the JSON, its using the old method with a steamodded header in lua

[swift matrix]

inside a table

[swift matrix]

oh,... you should fiz that, but it mighta already been diferent

[lavish vessel]

I might push up a hotfix that switches over to JSON tho

[swift matrix]

fair

I have to reclone my modpack because i accdentally cleared the mods folder of my local copy, lol

i was trying to clear my actual mods folder to copy it over

smh

it's literally one simple git command so not an actual issue

just annoying

[exotic shadow]

Git reset HEAD --hard

[swift matrix]

i'll keep that in mind for next time

[exotic shadow]

(Will delete any unsaved changed)

But resets back to the state of the commit you're on

[swift matrix]

luckily the only changes in my local repo were uncommited updates, which wouldn't have been preserved anyway

but updating is also just a single command

so just have to wait like 5 minutes for those to execute

[swift matrix]

the reason i didn't do this instead of recling is because i'd already deleted it and started doing so

[wind token]

thoughts?

[exotic shadow]

DebugPlus mentioned

Looks decent but I wonder if it would make it hard to distinguish between different jokeds with the editior

[mystic fossil]

DebugPlus mentioned

Im ready to release this mod, im just not feeling it

[wind token]

im confused by what you mean, how so?

[mystic fossil]

It needs more testing with different mindsets

[exotic shadow]

Idk there's a lack of colours so I worry most jokers with the same shape will look the same

[left cipher]

Is it worth continuing

[plush hound]

hi

[plush hound]

should've updated Talisman to abort the calculation

[radiant sphinx]

the hammer is smashed

[polar oyster]

Hi Nxkko

[wind token]

oops

[plush hound]

hello nrio

[plush hound]

what the fuck

[mystic fossil]

you sending some type of subliminal message like you want to test?

[wind token]

i mean i like how it is

i just dont know how to make the shader change the shape of the card

[plush hound]

maybe not right now, give me a few hours

[left cipher]

But like, I have hanging Chad (with 23k retriggers) being blueprinted like over 10 times

[mystic fossil]

dmd u the mod

[vernal hare]

unstable card prototype

i have reportedly discovered the outline tool in aseprite

[polar oyster]

Bye, @еvеrуоnе, I'm going to bed!

[plush hound]

goodnight nrio

[wind token]

im trying to remake this

[plush hound]

i swear to you, you can scale ^Mult Jokers to avoid retriggers

[plush hound]

sure

ill give feedback soon

what do you want me to test

[mystic fossil]

i mean

just use it for how it is

[left cipher]

I don't think my feeble brain understand that at all

[mystic fossil]

If you want to try to crash/fuck shit up, you could just do a bunch of saves and loads

[left cipher]

Also I prolly should update my mods, I got them a few months back

[harsh glacier]

cryptid facts avoid retriggers

[vernal hare]

once i move 1.0 to staging phase i invite everyone to break everything about my mod

and make issues about it

[left cipher]

Yeah I see that now

[vernal hare]

little unbalanced? sure. fun to make? definitely

need to adjust that

[left cipher]

Well it's unstable for a reason

[vernal hare]

1 in 4 chance when played

or when scoredf

[gilded vortex]

Holy upside

[vernal hare]

i know that its really good if you know how to play with it

i should nerf it

2 random cards

[gilded vortex]

"know how to play with it" just play it with 2 other cards

[vernal hare]

you dont get to pick

from anywhere

it picks from anywhere

ill have it scrub 2 fuckin cards from your deck when it procs

[gilded vortex]

Still good

[vernal hare]

but it takes more consideration to play

[gilded vortex]

If it's completely random there's no consideration

You can't control it

Just play it

[vernal hare]

the consideration is if you should play the shitting card

hmm

how do i make this a downside even

[left cipher]

Yeah cuz if you just play high card you can only lose that one card and nothing next to it

[umbral estuary]

hey, i downloaded balatro plus mod, and it crashes at random times, after refreshing shop and finishing certain blinds. i was wondering if anyone could help diagnosing the error

[gilded vortex]

make it add more cards to your deck

[vernal hare]

ooo

ill make it add more unstable cards

so its like a hydra

[gilded vortex]

Hologram when:

[vernal hare]

well there

despite the downside, theres still a thing to get to make it good

thats the balatro way

ok well the line spacing is a little fucked and i intend to fix that

[blissful stag]

😭

[gilded vortex]

is that a giant and two normal people or a normal person and two tiny people

[blissful stag]

i havent changed the bottom yet

I should probably just make my own consumable art rather than changing the tarots

[plush hound]

thought he's squatting

[swift matrix]

I read it as a perspective thing

like they're way the fuck behind him

[blissful stag]

You guys DO realize im just drawing over the Devil

[swift matrix]

look... you're assuming i remember or even knew what the bg od the devil was

lol

[blissful stag]

😭

[vernal hare]

i hope @full edge doesnt kill me for making an indirect movie reference

[swift matrix]

hmmm... i can't tell if ol' Satan boy is supposed to be a giant, or if it is perspective

[blissful stag]

A very far cry from the actual tarot

[wind token]

What is this a reference to, I feel like I know it but it’s on the tip of my tongue

[vernal hare]

WarGames

added some more detail

[wind token]

Ohh

[dapper mica]

i think it's a cool design but some of the letters kinda feel a bit too thick. like the T in "to" in particular

[harsh glacier]

finally getting an actual artist to work on my mod to make the art less shit

[blissful stag]

Do you feed them or lock them in the basement

[rare shell]

2 more hours of work chat

[vernal hare]

that is too dark.

[harsh glacier]

auuuugh #000000

[vernal hare]

the way this game renders color is so fucking weird

[harsh glacier]

its the fault of the crt shader

even if its set to 0

[vernal hare]

damn

does this design look alright btw

[novel heron]

https://github.com/mausimus/ShaderGlass

it looks fine tho

[novel heron]

i like it a lot

[vernal hare]

sweet

[vernal hare]

dont use windows

[novel heron]

the t here thicc tho

[vernal hare]

yeah

[novel heron]

oh then you can use the app i developed

[vernal hare]

fixed

[novel heron]

#1349064230825103441 message

it's jank, should do the job tho

[vernal hare]

alright

[novel heron]

at least if ur on silicon

[vernal hare]

oh

i use linux

;-;

[novel heron]

ah shit

[vernal hare]

fedora linux girlie at heart

[novel heron]

i see

you could try this: https://github.com/benjamimgois/goverlay

[vernal hare]

i might make a joker called 'Cocked Pistol' in reference to DEFCON levels

Unstable cards give x6 mult-- but they are now ensured to spawn new cards when scored

i hate how people think chatgpt writing is one that includes the two dashes

because i type like that

:(

[novel heron]

why two dashes tho?

gpt does –

the emdash

[vernal hare]

some people

[novel heron]

-–—

[vernal hare]

how do you even summon an emdash dawg

[novel heron]

alt-minus or shift-alt-minus

idk which is which tho lol

[gilded vortex]

ALT-0151

[vernal hare]

ah

Compose key?

[gilded vortex]

You can do an en dash with ALT-1510

[gilded vortex]

idk what that means

[vernal hare]

nvm

[novel heron]

she is on linux not windows

[novel heron]

linux does unicode with ctrl-shift-u

or most distros at least

[vernal hare]

its compose

compose is a special key

im gonna bind it to right alt

[novel heron]

oh yeah compose obviously works too

[vernal hare]

©

got it working

½

this is fun

¹2

1²

[novel heron]

ñ⁄ç€

[vernal hare]

ñ

[gilded vortex]

Anyways—use em dashes

Especially when writing dialogue

— Write dialogue like this!
"Not like this," only anglophones do that

[novel heron]

and programmers

not anglophone and always use "

[vernal hare]

locked too hard into pixel art and my eyes started watering

[rare shell]

I would suggest not to mix pixel sizes

What size are you working in?

[vernal hare]

normal size

juhh

[rare shell]

71x95?

[vernal hare]

71x95

[rare shell]

Oh I see

Yeah I'd just make the stripes less blocky imo

[vernal hare]

oh okay

easy fix

[rare shell]

Otherwise pretty swag

[wraith seal]

fnaf 1 door

[vernal hare]

ur right this looks so much better

[wraith seal]

can we open it

[vernal hare]

its just representative of a hazard sign

theres nothing else to it

[wraith seal]

is there freddy fazbear behind that

[vernal hare]

there's wall

[wraith seal]

fuck

[vernal hare]

4x base jumpscare

hmm what should this dop

1.1x mult when an unstable card activates

actually

since i wanna be special

1.1x chips

[mystic fossil]

Handy mod's tag remove feature works

with better tags

in new release soon

[dapper mica]

wait wouldnt x0 chips just completely nullify your chips

[vernal hare]

good point let me start at 1

[normal hollow]

i was gonna ask that

[vernal hare]

what rarity should it be

uncommon? rare?

wait it shouldnt be 1.1

it should be 0.1

mayb 0.3

[dapper mica]

yeah i was gonna mention that too

xchips is WAY more powerful than xmult because chip sources give way more, so i'd say keep it at 0.1 or maybe 0.2 if you think it absolutely NEEDS an upgrade

[vernal hare]

alright

anyone got an idea as to why steam prompts me to uninstall the game every time i restart it through smods

[rapid epoch]

which mod was it that adds like, postcards referencing different games?

like celeste and outer wilds

[normal hollow]

wait till you hear about Xmult

[rare shell]

Kid named factor

[exotic belfry]

Nomai Outer Wild is real

[lunar sluice]

you see 1 pound of bricks is heavier than 1 pound of feathers because bricks are heavier

[ember verge]

Hey, does anyone know why this error appears? I'm trying to do mulit player with a friend (sorry if this is the wrong channel)

[mystic fossil]

smods moment

downloadhttps://github.com/Steamodded/smods

[ember verge]

oh ok, thank you very much!

[lethal tiger]

hey does a mod exist that lets me disable jokers from showing up?

[normal hollow]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1352154849579630592

[lethal tiger]

thank you king

[vernal hare]

some new vouchers i made ^-^

fatass voucher

[ember verge]

Ahh we tried this and it's giving him the same error

[ember verge]

This link*

[twilit jetty]

XChips is usually exactly as powerful as XMult, since (C * X) * M = C * (M * X)

[left quest]

I give chip ^chip and mult xmult

[normal hollow]

have you considered that xchips has a cool sound

[verbal osprey]

i think moni means there’s more sources of chips in game, than there are sources of mult? meaning it’s easier to boost that xchips effectivity?

idk

[left quest]

Bit bland than xmult

[normal hollow]

still doesnt change the math

[dusty jay]

I'm trying to launch the game with multiplayer mod but whenever I have the multiplayer mod in my mods folder the game crashes. I get these 2 errors whenever that happens. I already checked and the folders aren't nested so idk what else it could be. It worked before with extra credit though

[normal hollow]

what version of lovely do you have

[dusty jay]

uhh

where do I find that

[normal hollow]

it's at the top of the console that opens

[dusty jay]

0.6.0

[vernal hare]

xchips is just an aesthetic thing tbh

[normal hollow]

update

[storm forum]

Grab 0.7.1.

[vernal hare]

i wanted something else to look at

[dusty jay]

aight will do

[vernal hare]

i got tired of red background white text so i made blue background white text

[normal hollow]

i like using xchips to have counterparts to xmult

[mystic fossil]

new better tags release chat. bestest tags now betterer

[vernal hare]

yeah everything to do with unstable cards is gonna be danger/nuclear themed

i’ve done intensive studying over signage and stuff lately

[dusty jay]

this worked ty

[tropic egret]

tall

[modest portal]

is there a localization file template for texture pack mods that change the name of jokers?

[dense bronze]

ive been really keen to try play BUNCO but for some reason it just wont launch

[swift matrix]

fucking bmm

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/jumbocarrot0/Bunco/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

uae this bunco

[dense bronze]

whats the issue? and thank you for the version

oh is the mod manager at fault?

aha! working now, thank you so much

[swift matrix]

it hases the wrong versions of things

bunco has a new maintainer now with a different github repo

[dense bronze]

ohh

so.. i shouldnt really use bmm?

[tropic egret]

bmm bork

[whole nova]

multiplayer seems so fun but i have no friends who own balatro 💔

well they do but don't play it much

[dusky heart]

Anything else besides Bunco that you can think of?

[haughty tide]

i had problems w cryptid once

but like it's literally not a huge deal

[dusky heart]

The prior issue with Cryptid on BMM was due to it downloading Steamodded 0323b by default, which the latest versions of Cryptid weren't compatible with, but that's fixed now that Steamodded has released 0506a

[deft cloud]

Greetings

Decided to join to try and get into Balatro modding :)

[wraith seal]

hi

modding is fun :3

you either wreck your entire pc with numbers humans can't comprehend or be flabbergasted by the shit people make here daily

[verbal osprey]

i have had some downright absurd ideas for jokers before and i am left wondering “is omeganum really enough” /j

potentially the funniest one i’ve had is the Graham Cracker, where the (downright impossible to implement) idea was “x g# mult, where # is the amount of times cards have been scored during this run”
g being representative of graham’s number, iirc

this is just like. there would never be a use for this but it is so funny to imagine

[normal hollow]

adding a joker that gives +0.004 mult

[lost bolt]

The graham cracker.............

[rare shell]

im home chat

[verbal osprey]

new joker, The Inconvenience, that does nothing but give you +0.01 mult, +0.01 chips, and +$ 0.01 per round, while also taking -$0.01 off every shop price

[verbal osprey]

1. nice atlyss pfp
2. i see i have summoned someone by mentioning graham crackers and i find that quite funny

[lost bolt]

cause the mod i contributed to/made has a graham cracker joker which is a lot different

[dapper mica]

i actually like the idea of a joker that scales REALLY gradually honestly. like it has a bunch of good stuff but it scales up from x1 really slowly so you h ave to take the risk of keeping it around to watch it gradually become more and more effective

[verbal osprey]

yeah i figured itd be a little different from multiplying by grahams number LOL

[novel heron]

hmmmmm

[verbal osprey]

ooooohhh true…..

[teal birch]

finally got around to updating every mod I use

time to figure out what breaks

[dapper mica]

if whoever made reverse tarot somehow sees this my suggestion to you is to keep the suit/secondary same suit thing and make it so that it retriggers any effects related to the suit. because its there twice

[novel heron]

it should also just come up more often imo...or maybe i haven't played into it that much

my deck rn btw

[verbal osprey]

good god what is Happening In There

comically large seal

[novel heron]

uhhh 44 0s of Nothing, one foil 0 of nothing, one tier 2 card 0 of nothing, one teal card 0 of nothing, 4 bugged 0s of nothing, and one gemstone card with a family seal

completely normal deck xD

[verbal osprey]

that is hilarious

[novel heron]

playing 5 0s of nothing makes a spectrum five, idk why

[teal birch]

alriiight I gotta fix these

[plush hound]

Chatter
(Common)

This Joker gains X2 Mult and +100 Chips for each time you don't play along with a Hand Type Joker, resets at the end of the round

[teal birch]

huh.

not sure who to mention it to since idk if its an issue with blind expander or lobotomyCorp

entropy still doesn't like celeste but I can wait since they're revamping it all

[plush hound]

it's a dependency no?

[teal birch]

its not a dependency

it just doesnt like lobotomy for some reason

Paya has a missing dependency but that's an easy fix

[plush hound]

@grand geode your mod?

[grand geode]

LobotomyCorp provides blindexpander

[teal birch]

oh

[grand geode]

install one or the other

[teal birch]

interesting

ight can do

I just hope I remember that next time

[grand geode]

if blindexpander updates it'll be updated on LobotomyCorp's side first

[teal birch]

uhhh

okay all I did was disable ISAT (which shouldn't have caused any issues) and also Blind Expander

I guess it's a lobotomy Corp thing

[grand geode]

huh

[teal birch]

tbf my mod list is really large

idk what would cause this

[grand geode]

language?

is it conflicting with aiko

[teal birch]

not sure

[novel heron]

this build is so stupid 😭 💀

[teal birch]

spectrum five??

[novel heron]

yeah don't ask

just accept 😭

[teal birch]

i don't understandddd

[novel heron]

not a single standard card in here (and why is it a flush 💀)

[polar oyster]

Spectrum is a hand that contains 5+ different suits

[storm forum]

Them's the "nothing" suit.

[teal birch]

yeah ik, which really confuses me when I see something like spectrum five

is it just five of a kind and also spectrum

[teal birch]

where does that come from

[novel heron]

Showdown mod (i think)

[storm forum]

...actually, that's a "0" rank that has the Wild Card behaviour.

[plush hound]

it's from UnStable

[novel heron]

oh okay

[polar oyster]

Spectrum Flush Five

[plush hound]

or Showdown

both adds custom ranks

261 of Spades

0.5 of Hearts

1 of Clubs

[polar oyster]

Unstable also have 0, but not 0 of Nothing

[whole nova]

it's kinda crazy how well wiki pages drive traffic to a mod

lucky rabbit downloads went waaay higher when i first made a wiki page

[novel heron]

how so? it's accessible, instead of some discord server you have to join and then you still can't find anything

[whole nova]

fair, i just didn't expect that many people to be browsing the wiki y'know

[novel heron]

i found my first mods to download from the wiki too

[topaz urchin]

The Boss blind "THE DECISION" is glitched and it wont let you end

[teal birch]

ight

[topaz urchin]

does anyone know the mod its with?

[whole nova]

yeah i browsed it a lot at first too, but i didn't think it was popular in that way lol

[novel heron]

yeah i just mostly wanted to shit on discord again

[whole nova]

now the hope is just for a roffle play and not a drspectred takedown

[novel heron]

i searched in my installed mods and on the wiki, couldn't find anything

cryptid probably?

[topaz urchin]

I think

[novel heron]

the showdown mod dev is just built differently

[topaz urchin]

This is how it's glitched

[teal birch]

uh
one moment I may have goofed

not gonna send a log just yet

[topaz urchin]

i think you mean eoffed

[teal birch]

oh wait I think I downloaded the wrong showdown

yeah mb

I feel like I've walked into a whole different game

what is the other currency about

[novel heron]

i don't even have that wth

[teal birch]

rq are there any mods I should know about that makes things look nicer when you got a lot of mods

I mean, this might be a lot

that's 5 more suits bruh

[novel heron]

unjankify

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1367231163025854544

[teal birch]

thanks

I'll go n install that once I get this blind done

the heck is DOS

is this a TOGA thing

booo I can't put cards into it with freedom

[novel heron]

but idk if it fixes the specific example in the screenshot

the mod is fairly new so definitely show things that happen with a bunch of mods like this

and post it there

[teal birch]

I see

I'm also gonna check if handy works well because at times I'd rather not select singular cards at a time

[novel heron]

and cartomancer

for cleaner deck view

[teal birch]

ack

well that was sudden

[novel heron]

talisman moment

[teal birch]

how do I fix that

[novel heron]

that's why i don't play with anything talisman related...

AFAIK you can go to the settings of talisman and change the number type to vanilla? kinda defeats the purpose but might avoid crashes, idk

[teal birch]

ah

honestly I keep talisman with omeganum specifically because cryptid and also the stuff I'm loading tends to mesh with itself in ways that really get funky

I'll try it in a bit

[storm forum]

I've not done any custom card areas... or anything pertaining to (MS-, DR-, PC-, etc)DOS.

[teal birch]

ah

I wonder what that section is for then

[storm forum]

if args.type == 'money' and (type(G.GAME.dollars) == 'number' and G.GAME.dollars or to_big(G.GAME.dollars)) <= -20 then unlock_card(self) end

is the culprit.

[teal birch]

interesting

[harsh glacier]

talisman.......

[storm forum]

to_big(G.GAME.dollars)) <= -20 should be to_big(G.GAME.dollars)) <= to_big(-20).

[teal birch]

yeaaah things are getting weirder
context: I went back to the run I crashed on, and the cash out tab came up as expected. What I didn't expect was some other tab to show up with something I didn't have time to look at before it crashed

one moment, I'm gonna do a different run

[wraith seal]

#1358990385799757884, i think

[teal birch]

ah

Yeah probably

[tropic egret]

it's time for an incredibly complicated joker

[half harness]

why do you play in crt mode, un optimal gaming

[buoyant cairn]

anyone got a link to the ortalab discord or file?

[teal birch]

okay I just mucked around for a bit, the moment I cash out after finishing the first blind, this happens
after restarting the run when I get back, the other error happens

[teal birch]

funny

also I realised 100 was too strong and moved it back down to 70

[topaz urchin]

I uh see why the entropic cryptid run is chaotic
Anyone need any money?

[stark shale]

i just unbanned letter cards man

[teal birch]

what happened

[stark shale]

i went to a boss blind

thats it

[teal birch]

odd

[tropic egret]

todd

[stark shale]

fortnite loot gif

[teal birch]

Okay, disabling omeganum worked for the first crash, buuut then I decided to check if the second one still happens

And it does

idk why its like this but its some cryptid thing

[glass python]

im also having a problem with talisman + cryptid but idk if its the same

[harsh glacier]

ultimate freedom

[glass python]

i keep crashing when i hold a card

[harsh glacier]

Trollic

[wind turtle]

Is it a hard crash?

[stark shale]

clown (movie from kino) is techincally a econ joker

[glass python]

hard crash as in the entire game closing?

i dont see any error message

[wind turtle]

Is talisman set to bignum?

[glass python]

might be like e308 or smthn

is that bugged rn

im checking rn

[wind turtle]

Try changing it to omeganum

[teal birch]

this is the crash in question btw

it just pulls up a second cash-out screen for a split second and then crashes

not really sure what is causing it but it means I can never continue my runs

[harsh glacier]

ok yeah i think thats a cryptid bug

dont exit out on cash out screens basically

[glass python]

oh hey this actually worked

thanks

[teal birch]

it didn't happen to me before though, idk why

[harsh glacier]

oddly enough it fixed itself at some point then maybe that crash was unfixed and now it crashes again

[teal birch]

ykw lemme shut off some mods and work my way around it

[harsh glacier]

it just kept the previous cash out screen

forever

atleast until you reload that is

[stark shale]

thank you ice

[spiral blade]

Random out of the blue question I can't make no guarantees on this, but any of the creators of the vinesauce mod wanna do a small mod for Joel for the Hannah Montana Linux part 2 stream thinking of putting balatro in it for him with a funny mod

[teal birch]

is it normal for talisman to look like this

aaaand the game crashed

[teal birch]

not even in the regular way either, it did the whole intro thing and then quit

[teal birch]

huh.

Why is it localisation

[swift matrix]

technically you can cryptid without bignum

if that would help

like putting Talisman on vanillia scoring i mean

[teal birch]

yeah i could

[swift matrix]

you'd just naninf out real easy

[teal birch]

Rn I’m trying to get this thing to work

because its crashing atm

and i dunno why

I can’t even send a log because it doesn’t show up

[swift matrix]

usually it's because you have a mod that doesn't support bignum

it has to be added by hand

[teal birch]

it just kills itself entirely

[swift matrix]

if it's talisman related at all that is

[teal birch]

hm

okay context
I was just disabling every new mod I added to see if any of the new ones were conflicting with cryptid or talisman

i need to look around for a log or smth

Nope the only logs are the actual crash logs

[swift matrix]

I mean a log is always formed when the game runs

are the ones where you didn't crash just normal?

I mean did crash

but suddenly

[teal birch]

The ones I was experiencing was just the game killing itself after the startup intro

so it was probably related to the title screen in some way

I’m doing my best to fix it atm

[swift matrix]

i mean those still make logs

but they stop suddenly after the loading stuff?

[teal birch]

the game just stops entirely and closes

i did not see a single log

I would have copied it here if there was

anyway I just took every mod out and ran balatro, rn im gonna see if it all loads at once properly when i put them back

Nooope.

did the same thing

[swift matrix]

I meant like.... the boot logs should exist

those are the same logs as the crash logs

in love/logs

lovely outputs shit from the second it starts to load

and it goes there

prolly not useful, just explaing what i meant

[teal birch]

not seeing anything from just now

[swift matrix]

did you get the normal lovely loading animation?

[teal birch]

no lovely logs were made after I started crashing the way I have been

Yes

[swift matrix]

that's.... bizzare

[swift matrix]

it must be crashing so fast they don't get written to disk

[teal birch]

this is the latest one and it's from when I took out every mod and ran the game

no logs after that

The only thing I can think of doing is painstakingly putting in one mod at a time

eh???

that's odd

i guess that lovely showed up after I removed everything

one moment

actually what am I doing

I can just send it here

atm I can't make head nor tail of this so I'll stick with the painstaking process of putting in all 60+ mods one at a time

[swift matrix]

I mean there's binary search

do half, check, if so, then take out half, if not do the other half, and so on

that's a shitty explanation but shou;d somewhat make sense

[teal birch]

hmmm

maybe

[placid herald]

I got this error even though I didn't change anything, 2 days ago balatro still worked fine. I even reinstalled the file, which still didnt fix the problem.

[teal birch]

okay im getting somewhere

Just putting in 5 at a time instead of half

[stark shale]

such a.... neat run

[full edge]

What a gorgeous smorgasboard of mods and ui

[teal birch]

huh.

Is Cryptid actually making it crash

[tropic egret]

smh image with uncensored lcorp joker. banned for a thousand years