⚙・modding-general

[prisma latch]

it gives cryptid's revert, which resets to start of the ante, so you could quite easily notice it when using a wheel of fortune changes everything from last time lol

[full edge]

Ah that's true

[prisma latch]

unrelated deck idea: prep deck (or smth idk)
start in the shop with $250
start on ante 8 boss blind

[wanton rapids]

wouldn't wheel only advance by half a shop slot anyways

[full edge]

Ive never used revert on a cryptid run

[lunar sluice]

i mean idk how exactly it works

[exotic dagger]

my soul got denied :c

[wanton rapids]

i guess that makes the type roll the item roll instead

[lunar sluice]

cause i dont play this deck

[prisma latch]

yeah revert isnt all that useful unless you really really fuck up

[full edge]

I wonder what the dumbest on-theme deck I can add to Kino is.

[harsh glacier]

i think the funniest thing i got with revert probably due to an old cryptid version is the cash out box appearing twice

like it just. creates another one

[prisma latch]

christmas movie only deck. die hard has a 50% chance of being included depending on your system name so some people have it and some dont

[harsh glacier]

and the old one is left forever

until you reload

[full edge]

Die Hard's classified as Christmas already, hahaha

[prisma latch]

lmao

[whole nova]

hey guys, opening up balancing discussion for a lucky rabbit card - rn it gives a random negative joker (think judgement) but for obvious reasons it needs a balance. what do you guys think of:
"Creates a random Negative Joker
-$5 for each Negative Joker owned
(Joker has $0 sell value)"

[prisma latch]

i should probably rearrange my joker atlas to be in order but that sounds like effort

[faint gorge]

what the hell, i just removed few mods and now i have stakes blocked

[whole nova]

it became a very easy cheese with temperance if you got enough of the card

[full edge]

How common is it, as a consumable?

[whole nova]

there are 19 other cards that can generate in its pack set

[full edge]

Because honestly, I think a random negative joker isn't that great, most of the time

[whole nova]

20 total, along with 1 soul making 21 (but the soul one is rare obviously)

[whole nova]

if you get enough lined up it can be absolutely ridiculous

[prisma latch]

there should be a spectral spectral card

[whole nova]

a lot of people have asked about a balance for it

[prisma latch]

like how soul is a spectral tarot. there should be a spectral spectral

[whole nova]

i mean, soul is a spectral

it's in the spectral collection tab

it just can also be in arcana packs lol

[prisma latch]

yea

but its meant to be like. the rare spectral tarot

like how black hole is the rare spectral planet

so why not a rare spectral spectral. its just like. oversaturated or smth lmao

[hard plank]

i have yet to draw chocolate egg

[faint gorge]

wait, letters will act like some kind of editions?

[lunar sluice]

chocolate egg is basically just beyond insurance rn tbh

but its nice

[whole nova]

just draw the spectral shader twice or something lol

[faint gorge]

btw i need to finally check your mod

more chaotic cryptid sounds awesome

[lunar sluice]

well a lot of people seem to like it so apparantly so

[prisma latch]

just gotta come up with 9 more joke jokers, 9 more mlp jokers, and some legendaries maybe and ill have a solid few pages ready

unfortantely. game design hard and i stuperd

[lunar sluice]

i hate game design

[prisma latch]

i can get some mlp jokers out the way by trying to remember as many grimdarks as i can lmao

might as well cover all 9 of the mlp jokers theres so many

hmm.. am i brave enough to include a lmr joker.

[lunar sluice]

which ones do you even havern

[prisma latch]

not all of them are grimdarks

[vernal hare]

i’m gonna make a ‘wormhole’ joker that makes sold cards come back 5 turns later negative

[prisma latch]

rn i only have cupakes and an unfinished one for diary of a time looper

(left unfinished for now because time loop mechanic is fucking HARDD)

[lunar sluice]

you could just do 1 for each of the mane 6 tbh it probably wouldnt be that hard

[prisma latch]

they get their own seals

[lunar sluice]

oh lol

[prisma latch]

for each element of harmony

[lunar sluice]

makes sense

i dont really remember that many other characters than them

[faint gorge]

what the hell, why do i have infinite free rerolls

[lunar sluice]

whats your setup look like

[hard plank]

i have amnesua

[west hill]

https://imgur.com/jBZmwEQ
toggles are my love

[viscid spear]

fuck

[prisma latch]

hmm... rainbow factory..
destroys scored cards with a rank of 5 or lower
every 10 cards destroyed, make a random held card polychrome
is that too good for an uncommon

[faint gorge]

and it's in every run

[hoary flume]

hi I wanted to try my first mod (which is a mod that shows your hand score before you play it https://github.com/DivvyCr/Balatro-Preview) but it first kept crashing when i went into a blind and clicked on my first card. then I tried fiddling by turning on/off the 3 different 'submods' and now the game just crashed when i boot it up. does it have something to do with the fact that I downloaded the second most recent version of lovely instead of the latest?

my pc wouldnt let me download the latest because it thinks its a virus (and idk how to turn it off)

[wind turtle]

Did it hard crash when you selected a card?

[hoary flume]

yeah when i left click on 1 card but i think the error for me is different now, it says its not reading the settings fodler even though its in

[plush hound]

this boss fucking blows dude holy shit

[faint gorge]

straddle, tension, relief? not sure if i asked here before from which mod it is

[hard plank]

Mod formerly known as Almanac

[faint gorge]

oh

[wind turtle]

Try removing those and getting this version: https://github.com/DivvyCr/Balatro-Preview/releases/tag/v4.0

[hard plank]

wait hold on

@lunar sluice didn't you say you add self insert into the mod

[lunar sluice]

yes

[hard plank]

does it actually show up in collection

[lunar sluice]

no

[hard plank]

ok good

[lunar sluice]

is this because of freedom again lol

[hard plank]

yeah lmao

[faint gorge]

perfect card for plasma deck

[hard plank]

suffice to say i think ultimate freedom + the Δ thing will be the next Cryptid addon meta

nah jk

unless

[lunar sluice]

literally just play ultimate freedom, steal misprint dekatria and oil lamp and epitachyno from the collection

since in the cryptid additions tab decks count as decks instead of flipped cards iirc

[hard plank]

too much freedom

wants to steal sleeves from the sleeves tab

i

i can't

lmao

it crashes

[lunar sluice]

lol

[hard plank]

el ver bumpo

[prisma latch]

i think these are good effects for new gemstone jokers without repeating the existing money, +chips, +mult, xmult effects, idk

[cold marsh]

uh i tried lauching via the mod manger and this happened

[hoary flume]

ok just tried this doesnt work 😦 guess ill play without it

[lone mica]

could someone please help me out

[wind turtle]

Why do you have more Mario jokers but not cryptid?

[lone mica]

it didnt say it was a dependency

[wind turtle]

It should be.

[lone mica]

slightly new error message

[limpid lake]

you need to update steamodded
download the latest commit from the green code button

you might also need to update talisman the same way

[lone mica]

still not working and messing with the files did more harm than good, im realising now i forgot to mention im using balatro mod manager

[vernal hare]

all my jokers atm

[rare shell]

i should draw a logo for the modded balatro wiki

[whole nova]

just make it Oops! The game crashed:

[wind turtle]

You need to update smods and talisman.

[lone mica]

how do i do that on balatro mod loader?

[rare shell]

i dont have perms to change the logo

oh i can just bother notmario about that

time to open the ancient text once more

21 recovered

whats more terrifying, the fact i have refused to save this 21 times, or the fact that since i started modding balatro i've only closed aseprite around 21 times since i always open this up

[still oak]

I can't seem to find the version of SMOD that works with the Cardsauce 2.0 update, it's asking for Beta 0472a or later but the only version I can find is 0323b

Please reply to my post if you can help

[still oak]

Thank you

[round pilot]

you will pay for everyone's sins before you

[rare shell]

negative aura

[swift matrix]

You best use that image for at least one actual joker

[vernal hare]

yes sir

[steep hedge]

can someone help me?

whenever i start balatro normally, it does start, but whenever i install steammodded through the balatro manger i get this error and the game doesn't start

Error: Failed to create OpenGL window.
This program requires OpenGL 2.1 or OpenGL ES 2.
Window creation error: Couldn't create window: The current process has used all of its system allowance of handles for Window Manager objects.

i have a rtx 4090 and amd chip on windows 11

[languid crystal]

modified the BU language mod files

[rigid jewel]

Shrimp special but no shrimp?!?!

[languid crystal]

shiiiii

i should add some

[rare shell]

mispelled

its 6 dollar srimp special

[wise bear]

I am alot less inspired when it comes to placeholder textures

[vernal hare]

alr

how do i change the font for this wretched game

[gray cove]

Trance

Mod

[vernal hare]

oh alr

[exotic shadow]

Mine was like this but then I had tok many using placeholders so I crudely wrote the name of each joner so I could identify them

[lunar sluice]

i just have a modified version of the placeholders file from cryptid

[swift matrix]

yknow... I just realized that jonh DebugPlus is a reference to how you type, lol

[swift matrix]

(I'm not mucb better)

[vagrant compass]

does the multiplayer mod work with any modded decks or jokers?

[exotic shadow]

The funny part was I was typing it correctly and I typoee DebugPlus and it was funny so I left it. Later aure typoed John and I was like I have to adopt that spelling

[swift matrix]

oh I didn't even see the k

like.... I had to read it again just now, even though you typed it correctly in the message

I was like "what, the DebugPlus" part is normal

but then i looked closer

[gray cove]

Flash bang

[normal hollow]

white 🫵

[vernal hare]

terrible terrible terrible

[normal hollow]

for that effect doesn't it make more sense for any tied hand to count

[gray cove]

Is this supposed to be a placeholder

[swift matrix]

good effect, but I think it's worthy of an uncommon

because free x2 mult for a common is kinda op

[vernal hare]

still not done yet but yeah

[swift matrix]

any x mult for a common is

[plush hound]

is it x{n} or X{n}

[vernal hare]

i needed more uncommons anyways

[wise bear]

No

[delicate dust]

X

[plush hound]

x

[delicate dust]

skrillex

[swift matrix]

which is a shame, because it looks better lokercase

lol

[delicate dust]

t(hunk)rue

[swift matrix]

thou I guess I read "x2" as qunatity multiplication for some reason

even though it's the same multiplictation operator either way

[plush hound]

X2 sounds better honestly

[delicate dust]

big letter = big number

misprint X0.2 enters the room

[vernal hare]

okay so G.GAME.last_played_hand isnt working

[swift matrix]

yeah like I said "x2" looks like

to me

[vernal hare]

or last_hand_played im

oh \

wrong chat

[swift matrix]

anyone else's brain do this?

[gray cove]

They’re two cats

[civic shadow]

Welp I lost before the round even began

[swift matrix]

what I mean is "x2" reads as "quantity 2" while "X2" reads more as multiplication

[rare shell]

twenty two of them

[swift matrix]

despite them both uses being the multiplication operator anyway

[swift matrix]

x22

as opposed to X22

[delicate dust]

sometimes i read "xn" as "n times"

[rare shell]

i needed to be blessed with seeing two of them after all these years

[gray cove]

Kittens

[rare shell]

twenty two of them

[jade forge]

Yo guys if anyone wants a snake flip animation i got u covered. It flips left to right and only once. So you will need to use twice if you want it to flip back up 🙂

[swift matrix]

I watch Cathode Ray Dude, who uses it in his vids a lot

he's a tech youtuber

[jade forge]

I use for my jokers that change cards to enhancs

[swift matrix]

the type that does hour long videos

my shit

[jade forge]

if this is confusing in terms of how it works lmk

[rare shell]

still only 28 hours into my 44 hour journey on that one quentin video

[swift matrix]

I like long videos, even multiple hours long, but they have to be documentary style

[lunar sluice]

they have to actually be long for a good reason instead of because thats what the algorithm favors

but i do enjoy long videos

[swift matrix]

I dont't like clicking on videos below 15 min

I'm the reason the algo is like it is

[lunar sluice]

there are a lot of videos that just feel artificially long when they would be better shorter

[rose glacier]

hey, i have balatro installed on a pendrive so i can also play it in my college, is there a way to mod the game there or does it need to have disk C files?

[swift matrix]

well... as I said I just don't give a shit about a video if it's not at the very least around 15 min

[lunar sluice]

that sounds artificial but you do you i guess

i dont really mind as long as its not too short or too long for no reason

[normal hollow]

damn the joyousspring video is 14:42

[gray cove]

First we craft

[swift matrix]

it comes down to me mostly using youtube for when I'm eating or doing something else, or something, if I do watch shorter videos I have to really care about the creator and make a queue of multiple

[rare shell]

IM FREE

i thought thunk banned swearing on the server for a second i was wondering why i got timed out 😭

[swift matrix]

did you accidently type a slur or something?

[rare shell]

i was going to say i have acquired the 44 hour video via peer (and i am spacing this to be sure) to peer connection

then it hit me that the word used to describe that is probably just an anti-piracy method

😭

[normal hollow]

pee two pee

[rare shell]

(context: that video got taken down and then reuploaded up to internet archive by the original uploader)

my god given right to listen to a gen x-er ramble about a childhood show

[swift matrix]

ugh my cursor is literally ggone

anyway was gonna say that the thing you typed is very weird to be on the mod list

banned list

brain

especially with a timeout attached

[rare shell]

nah it makes sense

i am using the term in like the 1% of time that it is used legally by the wider internet audience

most people coming in asking for that word probably are not the people thunk wants

[swift matrix]

the thing is like... the only thing we can't talk about pirating is balatro at leasr de-facto-lly and yet people do it all the time because they're silly

they never get banned though

[rare shell]

ive seen a couple of them get banned

personally i tell them to knock it off

[swift matrix]

ah too bad for them, the idiots

and yeah same I say "if your balatro isn't from steam, we don't wanna know"

though with gamepass that complicates matters

[rare shell]

is balatro on gog

[swift matrix]

nah

[rare shell]

desura?

[swift matrix]

not sure why though, it's not like it has drm

idk what desura is

[rare shell]

it was a very very very old online storefront for indie games that got shut down in 2014 iirc

[swift matrix]

ah fair, fair

had to open and shut this laptop for my cursor to alive again

stupid windows

I only haven't installed linux cause it's my mom's laptop that I'm borrowing

[rare shell]

one more video before bed mom

500 years elder scrolls slop

[swift matrix]

lol, you can just fo that?

put ".." in the middle of a cd to just... randomly go back and forth for no reason

[sour lake]

not sure if this counts as modding but does anyone know how the code works to swap the colors in the SPLASH_BACK shader once you get c++

I haven't been able to figure it out

(trying to debug why my menu didn't update when I got the achievement)

[rare shell]

youd probably get a better response in #💻・modding-dev

[sour lake]

[rare shell]

i just wanted to say i appreciate the modded balatro community

im glad to be a part of it

i'm so proud of everyone making a bunch of awesome mods

@harsh minnow wanted to shout you out by the way, i havent really played much modded balatro in a while but prism jokers are so very kino

gorgeous work you've done

[lunar sluice]

i have started working on some of these effects

[rare shell]

inversed type?

[lunar sluice]

spectrals become reverse spectrals and vice versa (im really bad at wording)

its like a whole mechanic in the mod

[rare shell]

upgraded enhancements? 👀

[wanton rapids]

i think it just goes in the general order of power level

[lunar sluice]

collection order but i wanted to make a better system for it

sadly crossmod dooms me once again

[rare shell]

notmario if i draw an icon for the modded wiki can you upload it

[wanton rapids]

sure

[rare shell]

i think its 160x160

[hard plank]

!!

[plush hound]

state of modding

[dreamy abyss]

you see your first mistake was installing pwx /j

[swift matrix]

state of Jen's psychosis

fr tho why is it huge like that?

[hard plank]

no but seriously why does he like big numbers

as in the display size of it

[craggy bloom]

2 questions

1. where is logic for determining what hand you're going to play in the source (like how does the game determine the cards you selected are a flush & etc)
2. where is the joker code in source 😢 😔 😔

[hard plank]

why are some of these numbers so big

[grand geode]

overwhelmingly large description that can easily be simplified is jen's specialty

[hard plank]

what are you trying to do

[swift matrix]

in this case it isn't even complex

just big font

[craggy bloom]

i just wanna see 😔 not everything in life needs reasons

[plush hound]

Freedom Deck + Weeck Sleeve

[swift matrix]

like... that's a normal joker desc

[hard plank]

card.lua has all joker effects

[swift matrix]

just biiig

[swift matrix]

well... kinda

unless they use a function other jokers do too

idk, it feels like each card is split over like 5 files

[twilit jetty]

I did a thing

[haughty tide]

what

is this

[twilit jetty]

Nine Minutes Of Balatro Unit Tests To Fall Asleep To

[haughty tide]

understandable

have a pleasant evening

[twilit jetty]

I recorded one which happened to open a Soul in the Card Sleeve section but that audio was borked

[wanton rapids]

balala unit tests real??

[harsh glacier]

hmm

wrong video lmao

[static shale]

Figured I'd ask, anyone have any pointers for cool mods for Balatro? Don't mind something unbalanced, just looking for something really fun to play

[plush hound]

Try AikoyoriShenanigans if you like new mechanics

as well as Hit

or if you want to try some new but vanilla gameplay

you can tey CardSleeves

if you want to experience Time Attack in Balatro

you can try Instant Gratification

if you want some unique Jokers, you can try

uhhh

[twilit jetty]

Bakery is fun and the only mod you need /hyperbole /shameless-self-promo

[plush hound]

hell, there's alot of unique Jokers

[wraith seal]

wait what if...

[plush hound]

also Play Bakery and Balatro: Star Rails

[grand geode]

hearts retrigger tests

[plush hound]

and play Joyousspring

and also

[wraith seal]

i add skills which require conditions to be unlocked for purchase first, like

Defeat Boss Blind with >= 30 Foil playing cards

[plush hound]

Prism and Yggdrasil

Ygg is the same as Grim

but it saved into your profile

you can also try

like for me, fun is like

trying to break the game honestly

if you haven't tried Polterworx (formerly known as Almanac)

try it

[lunar sluice]

you should try entropy instead

[plush hound]

and also Entropy

they got some mindfuckery going on there

they got =Mult

[wraith seal]

=mult

[lunar sluice]

=mult isnt even the craziest thing

[plush hound]

shh

[lunar sluice]

you can buy decks and whatnot

[wraith seal]

does it just set your mult to a number

[plush hound]

dont spoil

[lunar sluice]

i wont say much

[twilit jetty]

when are we getting ≈mult

[lunar sluice]

but you gotta drop just a little

[grand geode]

what if i add -xmult synergy

[wraith seal]

the synergy that can potentially fuck up your entire run ❤️

[plush hound]

you can try this list

wait no, I haven't updated it yet

[lunar sluice]

=mult is funny because its barely ever useful outside of like scaling and if something sets your mult to a negative

[plush hound]

-Mult is crazy

cuz it's stuck on bignum i suppose

[hard plank]

i think it has a use in that in case you don't want to win

[lunar sluice]

erm -mult already exists

in cryptid

[hard plank]

like niche

[plush hound]

i experienced -^Mult

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364064786165399593/1364078593235357837/image.png?ex=681a28ef&is=6818d76f&hm=f667f8d397b0e35cd57394342e57987d5c5c1db6f18877bd9ba3c283cadb32d8&

[lunar sluice]

😭

[wraith seal]

what name should a section that focuses on editions have

[hard plank]

All That Glitter

[wraith seal]

epic

[hard plank]

is gold

only shooting stars break the mold

[plush hound]

foiled again

[wraith seal]

foil

[wanton rapids]

foiled again sounds like "retrigger all Foil cards"

[wraith seal]

we cant even have gifs around here 🥀

[plush hound]

Blue Yourself if it was peak

[teal birch]

[teal birch]

HOW

[lunar sluice]

btw there should totally be an entropic version of colorem at some point but i genuinely have no ideas for what itd even do

[teal birch]

what does colorem do

[wanton rapids]

copy paste but colour cards

[hard plank]

exotic version of aikoyori and entropic version of aikoyori

[teal birch]

oh I see

[lunar sluice]

idk what id make the effect since its not meant to just be the same thing but stronger

[plush hound]

this is like uhhh

Copy Paste

[teal birch]

add several copies?

[plush hound]

or Python

[wraith seal]

by copy, does it retain its rounds?

[wanton rapids]

yes

[wraith seal]

jesus fuck

[lunar sluice]

itd have to be something that benefits you for using color cards but not in the same way

[hard plank]

can you rig it

[lunar sluice]

aka not just creating copies

[wanton rapids]

yes

[plush hound]

Aikoyorick

[teal birch]

is colorem compatible with jokers that retrigger jokers (and also the copying jokers like blueprint and all that)?

[twilit jetty]

hue shifts? maybe?

[plush hound]

saturation

since Entropy really loves ascended hands

[lunar sluice]

Colorem -> Prismatiko
using a color cards transfers some amount of its rounds to other held color cards that dont share the same color (applies to shape? cards too)

[teal birch]

what if
it duplicates color cards when used, and it can also add more rounds to them at the end of a round?

[lunar sluice]

seems kinda weak

[wanton rapids]

i don't really like colorem design wise tbh?

i just put it in because i wanted a crossmod exotic

[wraith seal]

what if theres a joker that creates a random color card after using one

[teal birch]

i mean, colorem is pretty cool ngl

[lunar sluice]

colorem is weird

[plush hound]

-# also Colorem looks ugly since it's just a Canvas

[lunar sluice]

its powerful but the effect is just kinda bland compared to what you could do (no offense)

[wanton rapids]

this was before crossmod was really common

no i get that absolutely

[wraith seal]

cross mod please

:3

[plush hound]

Color Picker

[hard plank]

when was cross mod common

[lunar sluice]

colorem being a color picker type mechanic would honestly be pretty fun

[plush hound]

HEX, CMYK, RGB

[lunar sluice]

but idk how youd do it

[hard plank]

most common colour on screen

[lunar sluice]

code or ui wise

[hard plank]

it would just be the blind background ngl

closest colour to average colour of jokers you have

[plush hound]

"Spawns a color card based on Blind's color"

"Trance approved"

[lunar sluice]

its an exotic anyway so you can just reuse cryptid pointer menus to allow you to enter a color specifically

[flint tangle]

-# moved
but yeah @lament lily patching balatro would be your best bet

[lunar sluice]

but the idea is kinda weak anyway so idk youd need to add something else to it

creating as many color cards as you want is strong but its a really slow burn to get any actual use out of it

which makes it less viable than most other exotics since gateway kills all your jokers

[harsh glacier]

the color card that creates a negative soul card

[lunar sluice]

me when i get chicot

[harsh glacier]

actually not negative just normal the soul

[lunar sluice]

or perkeo

or canio or triboulet

[hard plank]

😭😭😭😭

[lunar sluice]

on ante 2390834908

[hard plank]

what would exotic aikoyori even do

[teal birch]

afaik there is at least one joker that adds rounds to color cards

[lunar sluice]

theres like 1 legendary joker in the base game that keeps you alive instantly if you get it

[harsh glacier]

uhhh kill everyone !!!!!!

[lunar sluice]

the rest require scaling

[hard plank]

hi yes that would be Aikoyori

[teal birch]

ah

[lunar sluice]

i should make my self insert automatically max out all color card rounds so it can be the most powerful joker

[teal birch]

I thought morefluff had another

was it some paint bucket

[hard plank]

i think that was like a voucher

idk

not sure actually

[lament lily]

is this more involved than just copying a folder?

[flint tangle]

getting that folder is the hard part

[teal birch]

there is a voucher that provides a chance for the rounds to increase by 2 instead of one, but I was thinking about the joker

[lament lily]

have done that to save scum noita

[teal birch]

found it

[flint tangle]

Android hides the save folder by default, so you can't simply just e.g. point syncthing at it

[wanton rapids]

yeah i readded paint can

[hard plank]

oh right ok

makes sense

[teal birch]

is it affected by retriggers btw

[wanton rapids]

i dont think so

[lament lily]

could poke around from a laptop, that would probably help

[teal birch]

ah

[hard plank]

also that ability of Aikoyori is coded on the More Fluff side

[teal birch]

I see

[hard plank]

foiled again

[lament lily]

so is it really just copying a folder over then?

[flint tangle]

yeah, your goal is to copy the folder over

that would be easy

however, Android hides the folder itself from the user

it's difficult to access without either being the app itself or other tools

[lament lily]

I could poke around from my laptop with the show hidden folders option on

anyways like. If copying a folder is all there is to it I don't understand what all the commotion was about

[flint tangle]

I don't either

[lament lily]

copying a folder isn't piracy

[wicked heart]

nathan I still don’t know who told you arguing about piracy in front of the creator of the game was a good idea

some balls and not in a good way

[wraith seal]

idk

[wicked heart]

this looks awesome

[hard plank]

furiously pointing at the Cryptid server

[lament lily]

what even is the cryptic server

[flint tangle]

@lament lily still no clue how this is against the rules but I guess we're going to dms

[lament lily]

I just got in this server

[hard plank]

i think rooting is kinda unwanted in official capacity

[static shale]

question, what's your guys' favorite collection mod for Balatro??? looking for a new experience, deciding between Balamod and Steamodded

[hard plank]

do you like playing old mods

[static shale]

as long as its fun i dont mind at all

[hard plank]

i can't name a Balamod mod

[wicked heart]

Neato’s stuff on the mod manager is great but I also just running into the deep end with the cryptid mod at some point

also yeah I haven’t even really heard of Balamod

[hard plank]

was more fluff coded in balamod initially

[hard plank]

you haven't heard of my mod

unless you have in that case sorry

[wicked heart]

just read your profile description and I’m convinced

this has to be peak

[wanton rapids]

morefluff was not originally done in balamod

[teal birch]

whats balamod

[wicked heart]

jesus you have three twitter accounts

[static shale]

welp guess ill do steamod lol

[static shale]

one for the plug and one for the load

[wicked heart]

I guess since you’re a modder you deserve a follow on all three

[wicked heart]

[hard plank]

i

rarely use twitter anymore

[static shale]

someone should mod the balatro theme and add lyrics

would be HEAT

🔥

[hard plank]

i think it's too distracting

[static shale]

maybe jimbo comes out and does a lil dance for ya

[wicked heart]

fair enough I’m mostly on there for news

[static shale]

Is Cryptid generally everyone's go to???

[hard plank]

you should try my mod

[wicked heart]

I wouldn’t say generally, but it’s like a must-try type thing

[wraith seal]

i should buff pale forest

[wicked heart]

this is beautiful self promotion

I share the sentiment because of how much I end up pushing my fanfiction in the circles I’m in

[static shale]

Ooh i remember you plugging it once, what was it again?? ill try it now

[wicked heart]

I really have no gauge on what most of this means so I can’t really say

[wraith seal]

skill tree, cross mod content with morefluff :3

[hard plank]

#1326135270759993364

[lunar sluice]

entropy compat: all boss blinds are endless entropy +100% xp gain

[dreamy abyss]

what do i have...
-cryptid
-balatro hevven
-rift-raft
-reverie
-aikoshen
-cardsleeves
that a reasonable amount of mods, right???

[hard plank]

hold on can you remove skill

or are they permanent

[wraith seal]

theres the reset skill tree button

only pressable on round <=0 though, since, yk, challenge skills

[rare shell]

no jankjonklers smh

[hard plank]

are skills buttons or are they cards

because i would like to steal it

[wraith seal]

buttons

😭

i considered making them cards but that would mean i will need to do art

hell nah

[hard plank]

i guess i call steal grim skill tree card

[blissful stag]

this looks so ugl.y..

[plush hound]

it's a benchmark

let me update my list hold on

[hard plank]

i need more creative deck ideas

[polar oyster]

Hi chaters(balatro advanced)

[viscid spear]

won my first balala multiplayer match weee

[polar oyster]

Make tained Cain like a deck

[lunar sluice]

i already did that

[static shale]

Downloaded it, it's with Lovely right?

[lunar sluice]

deck of destiny in entropy does that

[hard plank]

you'll need Steamodded

[static shale]

OOP

yeah that explains why it crashed

[hard plank]

alongside lovely

[polar oyster]

Add, That you need to play Durak to win blind, I don't have any ideas.

Maybe add 21

[twilit jetty]

I wanna make a TLaz type deck

[sterile hornet]

Parabéns, very cool :)

[hard plank]

hello gappiee

[sterile hornet]

hoi

hai

óla

[plush hound]

BROKEN / PANDEMONIUM
-# PROCEED WITH CAUTION:

1. Cryptid
   1.1. Entropy
   1.2. Ascēnsiō
   1.3 Astronomica
2. Jen's Polterworx
3. NXKOOMATIC
   -# Both of these are best friends actually, You need Cryptid as a base for the 1.a sections

Quality Of Life:

1. Handy
2. Galdur
3. Incantation
4. Cartomancer
5. NextAntePreview
6. JokerDisplay
7. DismissAlert
8. Flower Pot
9. Blueprint
10. Malverk (Texture Pack Manager)
11. Condensed UI (for cleaner UI)
12. UnBlind (NextAntePreview for Shops)
13. Vortex (Optional for non pixel background)
14. Unjankify (Re-center the Main Menu logo for mods haver)
15. SoulEverything (Makes every planets, jokers, tarot cards have Soul-like effects)
16. Glue for Modpacks
17. Playset (W.I.P)

Content Mods:

1. Ortalab
2. UnStable
3. Bunco (a bit unstable)
4. Buffoonery
5. Bakery
6. Balatro Goes Kino
7. RevosVault
8. TOGAPack
9. Reverse Tarot+
10. Lobcorp
11. JoyousSpring
12. MoreFluff
13. SDM_0'sStuff
14. Gonchalatro
15. Minty's Silly Mod
16. GARBSHIT

Honorable Mention:

1. AikoyoriShenanigans
2. Mistigris
3. Maximus
4. BRAPTRO
5. Plantain
6. Prism
7. Opandora's Box
8. Balatro: Star Rail (WIP)
9. Lucky Rabbit
10. LuckyJimbos
11. Victin
12. OPandora
13. Garden Variety
14. All in Jest
15. Tsu's Jeopardy
16. Scryfalatro
17. Terarria x Balatro
18. Balatro Hevven
19. Delirium's
20. Paya's Terrible Addition (WIP)
21. UNDERTALE (an actual mod)

Fun Mods
-# kinda changes the gameplay mechanic and whatnot

1. HighestPriestiess
2. TooManyDecks
3. Hit, Blackjack Deck
4. Any Deck mods overall
5. Reverie
6. Betmma's Mod
7. Instant Gratification
8. Rift-Raft
9. CardSleeves
10. Seals on Everything
11. Yggdrasil
12. Better Tags
13. Joker Studio (Mario Maker but Jokers)

yeah that's good enough

[hard plank]

the shenanigans mod

[sterile hornet]

this week ive decided to learn 3 new languages

[hard plank]

wow

[polar oyster]

Hm

[lunar sluice]

why does polterworx get its own number but not entropy smh

[plush hound]

YOUR MOD

[hard plank]

Garcia's

[plush hound]

HOLD ON

[plush hound]

is it an add-on for Cryptid?

[hard plank]

Bochure

[lunar sluice]

it's starting to be different enough to probably warrant it's own category tbh maybe I'm biased though

[polar oyster]

r mod

[lunar sluice]

so is polterworx

[hard plank]

Je sus Aikoyori

[lunar sluice]

What's the difference

[plush hound]

fair fair

[polar oyster]

I love this card too much

[plush hound]

you

[polar oyster]

You're a clown

[sterile hornet]

is that supposed to be a message to me? lol

[hard plank]

Garcia's

[lunar sluice]

I think they both are better being separate because past a certain point enough things are changed for it to be a different experience but yea

[plush hound]

my point was it's from the Cryptid's expansion forum

[sterile hornet]

what does mean

[plush hound]

since it's not available in here

[lunar sluice]

it is

[plush hound]

well except

[hard plank]

Spanish for Thank you

[plush hound]

you

[lunar sluice]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1356061616063385763

[hard plank]

Entropy better than Mod Formerly Known as Almanac

[plush hound]

yeah but Ascensio and Estoric isn't here

[sterile hornet]

..right
gracias por decirme
i wouldve never known

[plush hound]

let me fix it

[hard plank]

because (i believe) it's not just numbers

[lunar sluice]

ascensio is a lot closer of an experience to base cryptid anyway

[hard plank]

katana 😭

[lunar sluice]

it's 4am and I can't sleep I'm gonna crash out

[sterile hornet]

dank 👍
now thats thank you in jerman

[lunar sluice]

nearly 5am

[viscid spear]

what is this?

[plush hound]

BROKEN / PANDEMONIUM
-# PROCEED WITH CAUTION:

1. Cryptid Entropy
   1.2. Ascēnsiō
   1.3 Astronomica
2. Jen's Polterworx
3. NXKOOMATIC
4. Entropy
   -# Both of these are best friends actually, You need Cryptid as a base for the 1.a sections

Quality Of Life:

1. Handy
2. Galdur
3. Incantation
4. Cartomancer
5. NextAntePreview
6. JokerDisplay
7. DismissAlert
8. Flower Pot
9. Blueprint
10. Malverk (Texture Pack Manager)
11. Condensed UI (for cleaner UI)
12. UnBlind (NextAntePreview for Shops)
13. Vortex (Optional for non pixel background)
14. Unjankify (Re-center the Main Menu logo for mods haver)
15. SoulEverything (Makes every planets, jokers, tarot cards have Soul-like effects)
16. Glue for Modpacks
17. Playset (W.I.P)

Content Mods:

1. Ortalab
2. UnStable
3. Bunco (a bit unstable)
4. Buffoonery
5. Bakery
6. Balatro Goes Kino
7. RevosVault
8. TOGAPack
9. Reverse Tarot+
10. Lobcorp
11. JoyousSpring
12. MoreFluff
13. SDM_0'sStuff
14. Gonchalatro
15. Minty's Silly Mod
16. GARBSHIT
17. Nrio's Stuff
18. Jimbo's Number Factory (W.I.P)

Honorable Mention:

1. AikoyoriShenanigans
2. Mistigris
3. Maximus
4. BRAPTRO
5. Plantain
6. Prism
7. Opandora's Box
8. Balatro: Star Rail (WIP)
9. Lucky Rabbit
10. LuckyJimbos
11. Victin
12. OPandora
13. Garden Variety
14. All in Jest
15. Tsu's Jeopardy
16. Scryfalatro
17. Terarria x Balatro
18. Balatro Hevven
19. Delirium's
20. Paya's Terrible Addition (WIP)
21. UNDERTALE (an actual mod)

Fun Mods
-# kinda changes the gameplay mechanic and whatnot

1. HighestPriestiess
2. TooManyDecks
3. Hit, Blackjack Deck
4. Any Deck mods overall
5. Reverie
6. Betmma's Mod
7. Instant Gratification
8. Rift-Raft
9. CardSleeves
10. Seals on Everything
11. Yggdrasil
12. Better Tags
13. Joker Studio (Mario Maker but Jokers)

[plush hound]

it's a list

[viscid spear]

time to never play again to keep the 100% winrate

[plush hound]

of mods

[sterile hornet]

you shoul put this in a text file
so its expandable

optionally

[hard plank]

"both of these"

[plush hound]

I'll do that when i get home, I'm outside right now, out of town

[plush hound]

ghhhhhhhh

[polar oyster]

Cool list(I'll maybe make collabs out of all the mods)

[hard plank]

github

[plush hound]

git

[plush hound]

Collab of every mod

call it a Mod Jam

just 1 joker from every dev

every modder

[storm forum]

👁️

[hard plank]

dawg why do you play osu

[plush hound]

i need more rosen

[polar oyster]

Hmm I want to make them for my main mods, because I already have 1 idea for some jokers, but it's hard for me to come up with more.

[plush hound]

who

[polar oyster]

But mod jam sound fun

[plush hound]

it absolutely is

[hard plank]

you

[plush hound]

Jamlatro, A megamod from the Balatro Discord Server

[polar oyster]

I'll call one of the jokers, who will give +30 Chips for each Joker in Collab(count even other collab mod).

[plush hound]

i played it a long time ago, i quit a few years ago

[hard plank]

top play 101pp 😭

[plush hound]

I'm addicted to SS

[static shale]

how would i go about fixing this? a lil confused

[hard plank]

my shit dropped from 97 to 60

[polar oyster]

I only played osu once, I didn't like it(

[topaz urchin]

yo I keep crashing when loading the start of the game and I think Its due to steammodded being weird, could I have some help?Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: functions/state_events.lua:1579: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 1092) near 'else'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0505a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x0dd6bc00'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 879
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x0dd59558 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x0dd595a8, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[sterile hornet]

rip

[polar oyster]

osulatro

[sterile hornet]

almost 100pp

i think my top one is 135pp

[hard plank]

check the mod folder

[static shale]

heres what it looks like

[hard plank]

What's inside aikoyori's

[plush hound]

this used to be 100%

[static shale]

OH MY....

[static shale]

yeah i dont know why i didnt notice that

works now :)

gonna lyk how it plays

[grand geode]

noodle arms

[hard plank]

i can't draw 😭😭😭😭

[blissful stag]

this is just a glorified randomized joker

[plush hound]

RNJoker

[hard plank]

i used to be so ass at art

I'm still ass at art

but not as ass at art

[plush hound]

Artasst

[blissful stag]

if ur ass at art then im probably cooked

[sterile hornet]

damnnn
you like those kind of scores huh

[plush hound]

SS Or Quit is my father

[sterile hornet]

yeah i figured lol

[plush hound]

now i dont have the reflexes anymore to play it again

[sterile hornet]

i atleast want to get an SS

or hidden S

[plush hound]

i used to do SS in my floor and my bed

[sterile hornet]

FGSky type setup? lol

[plush hound]

YEAH LMAO

FGSky and old era lifeline inspired me

[sterile hornet]

or ekoro

[grand geode]

WHY IS EVERYONE 6 DIGITS

[plush hound]

too good to be 5

[sterile hornet]

lol

[grand geode]

vro im like low 2mil on std

[plush hound]

i used to be 3 or 4 digits in some random relax private server

[sterile hornet]

damn, im not sure i can talk to you, you're below the.. rank of consent

[sterile hornet]

relax would be interesting

[grand geode]

HELP

[plush hound]

"it's not a real skill"

RX + FL is my go-to

[sterile hornet]

hell yea

[hard plank]

myst i can't draw anything that isn't noodle arms

[plush hound]

YOUR ART IS GOOD WDYM

[grand geode]

hoyo syndrome

[hard plank]

obviously i still love drawing

[sterile hornet]

||"Active rankophiles in the top 100? you think we would let that slide?"||

[sterile hornet]

nauuu its good art

[plush hound]

idke

[static shale]

ERMMMM

HUH

[plush hound]

his mod isn't there

[sterile hornet]

oo boy

[harsh glacier]

hi guys

[plush hound]

i used to fw osu! alot but i kinda lose interest

[harsh glacier]

i put aikoyori in my mod

[grand geode]

😭 mrekk in shambles

[plush hound]

he's been top 1 since what

[static shale]

Gonna take a lil

[hard plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=44&v=cyq5-StPISU

[harsh glacier]

wtf

[static shale]

Literally goated mod I am having so much fun

[hard plank]

yes i listen to ado

[harsh glacier]

holy shit

[hard plank]

yes I'm insane

yes I have a physical album of Ado's best Adobum

[errant zephyr]

i finally got completionist ++ with my Banner method
(I had to cheat. this says a lot about society)

[sterile hornet]

2021, if you dont count the (very) short period where alkalibed got number 1

[plush hound]

Alkaline is crazy

😭

Akolibed

[sterile hornet]

acco

not k

[plush hound]

lifeline got 1 too

[sterile hornet]

i mean i guess twitter acc is with k

shrug

[sterile hornet]

uhh when did wifeline get 1 again

[plush hound]

whitecat and vaxei are quivering

[sterile hornet]

ok but ivaxa

[plush hound]

badeu

[hard plank]

why

[sterile hornet]

forum if he didnt quit

[plush hound]

(Cut ver.)

[sterile hornet]

good song, unfortunate you see it now after looking up osu

[plush hound]

Balatrosu

[plush hound]

just Jokers based on top 100

and mappers

[sterile hornet]

erm
like.. freedom dive

[plush hound]

that wings looks similar

[wraith seal]

why

[plush hound]

brown card

no green card

[sterile hornet]

gotta include every single jump mapper of course

[hard plank]

i should add rhythm game to balatro

[plush hound]

Sotarks, fieryrage, Taeyung

uhhh

[sterile hornet]

its looks like ice cream without the stick

[plush hound]

the guy who mapped DM Dokuro map

[sterile hornet]

reform

[plush hound]

another one

[hard plank]

i like how the wings turn out

but i wish i could spread them out more yk

[sterile hornet]

rhythme doctore

adofai

pls

[plush hound]

there's no way you can add rhythm games in Balatro

like, UI and Gameplay wise

[swift matrix]

bitches will find a way

[plush hound]

i suppose

[sterile hornet]

nah you can definitely add like a simple ddr type thing

with arrow keys

as a joker or something

[swift matrix]

gonna be a bitch with the gimoed sound engine

but doable

[sterile hornet]

yep

tetris and super mario bros were doable, simple ddr is definitely so

[plush hound]

Clone Hero in Collections Tab

[wicked heart]

someone please make a teto mod

whoever made that miku balatro theme needs to make a teto version asap

[dreamy abyss]

bh crossmod

[keen crypt]

Can you tell me what font says "Joker" on the cards?

[topaz urchin]

does anyone have the version for steammodded so these mods will load but not the most current one?

the 505a version keeps on making me crash

[keen crypt]

Can you tell me what font says "Joker" on the cards?

[teal birch]

what do you mean by that

[novel heron]

please don't ask the same question in multiple channels my friend

that way multiple people take time out of their day to help you without knowing others do the same

[whole nova]

people who speak another language volunteering translations for mods is the greatest thing ever

[hard plank]

my mod has tetoris

[hard plank]

why are you asking question in multiple channels

[grand geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhDOLasASwM

o embed gone

but praise exattox for playing the mod

[rare shell]

streamed modded balatro and just got ragged on by my buddy for playing cryptid

its joever

they did see aiko's scrabble voucher and said it was neat

[dreamy abyss]

your buddy's a coward

[topaz urchin]

challenge him to a round

[rare shell]

he hates fun

[grand geode]

i have been noticing that lobcorp having a few flaws:

• any high number mod added (cryptid) completely negates lobcorp's gimmick
• disabling vanilla jokers for showcase actually harms gameplay a lot since you aren't meant to have all 5 slots be abnos in normal gameplay
  • there are not enough common abnos so the pool is extremely small if everything else is disabled
• discover all is the worst thing i could add to the mod even though i want to keep it for accessibility, it ruins the intended gameplay experience a lot
  • also makes digesting card descriptions so much harder when some have 8 lines of text, a lot easier when you are only allowed to understand 2-3 lines at a time

i feel like removing discover all tbh

[swift matrix]

a lot of these come down to lobcorp being a standalone mod imo

fuck

sorry

I thought that was someone else commenting on it

so hence reply ping

yes I know I can't read

[wraith seal]

myst is rapidly approaching your location

[grand geode]

its fine

[stark shale]

lobotomy corporation

[grand geode]

my gameplay vision is such a specific niche thou

[hard plank]

chat

[rare shell]

remove develop all

now

[grand geode]

develop all???

[wraith seal]

foiled again

[rare shell]

i think comparing your mod with cryptid is unfair

[hard plank]

i still can't stop thinking about this

[swift matrix]

I'm of the opinion that every mod should have a discover all button because smods currently doesn't let you reenable the vanillia one

however, for this kind of mod it should have a big fat do not use warning

[rare shell]

i dont think cryptid's existence should warp your design philosophy

if you need a discover all button put it behind 5 textbox warnings and a capatcha

[novel heron]

yeah they do it every fucking time...

[grand geode]

@wraith seal can you add

G.ygg_xp_bar.states.hover.can = false
G.ygg_xp_bar.states.click.can = false

to yggdrasil thanks

[swift matrix]

because if players wanna play the game wrong that's their perogative, and yes I think devs shouldn't try to make that hard to do

[wraith seal]

oh sure

[rare shell]

i think if options like that exist they should be tucked behind a bunch of menus

[swift matrix]

for lobcorp, sure, for most mods, not at all

[rare shell]

so much so you wouldnt really stumble upon it unless you were looking up how to unlock everything

[topaz urchin]

or just create a different profile so you dont mess up your current run?

[grand geode]

the first time you boots up lobcorp it prompts you to check the configs

[rare shell]

profiles are wonky

[wraith seal]

"are you sure"
"are you really sure"
"are you ABSOLUTELY sure"
"are you REALLY REALLY sure"
"sign this document before proceeding please"

[grand geode]

and the discover all is there

[rare shell]

i recently picked up a game called crush the industry, charming little roguelike deck builder, i HATE that one of the first thing you see is an unlock all button

[grand geode]

i'll add a confirmation saying that this is not the intended experience though

[swift matrix]

yeeeah you're shooting yourself in the foot a bit

[hard plank]

maybe unless you discovered your first abnormality

[swift matrix]

well.... idk maybe the dev's philosophy is more like mine

doing all the unlocks on vanillia was fine, but like... when they weren't just shit that happerened in normal gameplay it jsut got kinda annoying

i get the satisifaction, but.... nah man

not for modded at least for me

(note: I don't and will never play lobcorp)

not my thing, i don't know the references, and i don't cibe with the aethetic

[rare shell]

i think its important if the intended experience is to be enjoyed in a piecemeal figure it out sort of way those types of buttons are awful

[hard plank]

make it so that until you discover an abnormality the button just won't appear at all

[rare shell]

introducing an entire new mechanic to the player can be overwhelming if you just drop everything at them all at once

[errant zephyr]

I find a lot of enjoyment in things changing over time while I play

[hard plank]

at least fully

[swift matrix]

I mean.... in balatro nothing changes as you unlock besides the cards available to you?

[hard plank]

i like the freedom deck in this regard because you kinda just start discovering things you can and can't do with the deck

[swift matrix]

it's not really that type of game

[hard plank]

as you play

[swift matrix]

there's no mechanic progression after beating the tutiorial seed

[rare shell]

specifically with lobcorp mod though its designed to be an investigative sort of experience

[errant zephyr]

Unlocking new jokers, new stakes, new decks

[rare shell]

you're getting this rare category of joker that you initially as a player have no idea what it does

which is super neat for the record

[swift matrix]

hence why I agreed that the button should be discoruagerd to be used

in that one case

but it should exist

[rare shell]

content being added to the game is definitely a paradigm shift depending on how drastic it is

your first balatro runs are going to look different to your 100th balatro run

[novel heron]

i still don't understand how you have that stance :(

it IS that type of game kinda, the whole discovery system is built in for a reason

[rare shell]

being introduced piecemeal to the existence of playstyles via unlocks is a very good and awesome design tactic

[swift matrix]

perhaps, but like.... it's a toubox and I prefer to dump it out on the floor and play how I want :P

[hard plank]

and unless you actually check the config after you fully discover one should you be able to discover all

[novel heron]

1000x this

[rare shell]

i think that comes from the position of people who binge this game

[swift matrix]

it's worth noting, that I did indeed organically unlock every item in the game

[rare shell]

out of curiousity did you ever play the balatro demo way back in the day

[hard plank]

no

[swift matrix]

nah

[rare shell]

super different experience

and not just from the "ends at ante 5" standpoint, but from an unlock standpoint

[hard plank]

how accurate are nostalgic blinds in Cryptid

[rare shell]

i mean pretty accurate

[swift matrix]

Look, I'm not even saying I'd encourage people to use the discover all button if they were new players

I liked the experience of discovering and unlocking everything in balatro

well unlocking

the whole third category of undiscovered

could do without

[dreamy abyss]

(i used the unlock button because my unlocks were glitched for some reason.)

[novel heron]

i feel like not only for lobcorp but for every mod: the mod decides how it presents you stuff, if you don't like that then idk...

[rare shell]

i honestly can just attest that it works out a lot better in practice than it sounds

very fascinating system

[swift matrix]

For mods it's different (again beasides certain game conversion mods like lobcorp)

[hard plank]

Pokermon

[rare shell]

gonna give my 5 page essay about how i dislike zodiac cards from ortalab

[hard plank]

i don't think lobcorp is a total conversion

[swift matrix]

actually... organic unlocks on pokermon would blow

the pokeball items would be iseless

lol

discoveries are fine i guess

[novel heron]

the sole reason i don't have ortalab in my collection :(

[swift matrix]

but I like looking at the collection and seeing what's in the game

[hard plank]

do y'all think it's kinda ass or something

[rare shell]

its very unclear

and very hyper specific

[grand geode]

no it isn't, and if you use only cards from lobcorp you're bound to have a terrible time

[rare shell]

feels like im just doing clunkier tarot cards

[novel heron]

they are not useless, you discover stuff and then you discover how even more useful already discovered stuff gets and then the synergy of things you discovered a long time ago kicks in aahhhhhh idk how that is not enjoyable

[swift matrix]

I guess it's like... a conversion in the sense where it turns balatro into a themed and bizzareoworld version of itself with a story

[rare shell]

the joker cards that support it dont really feel like a valid avenue of game progression

and a lot of the time i feel like they just clutter a slot

which i mean, any mod that adds new consumable types will do that

[swift matrix]

I never in my life have played just pokermon, that's not how I play mods

I actually removed it entirely

[novel heron]

i removed it as well for now, this wasn't meant specifically for pokermon

[rare shell]

i have a similar problem to loteria cards but i think thats just more so personal philosophy takes, i can stand loteria

[hard plank]

-# alphabet cards 🥺

[rare shell]

its locked behind a voucher

youre so based for that btw

[swift matrix]

are you wiktionarying me? I don't claim to use language percisely :P

[grand geode]

i don't get why doc praises pokermon that much tbh it just feels like weirder vanilla

[rare shell]

pokermon is neat

[novel heron]

the sole reason i might reenable aikoyori's shenanigans

[hard plank]

😭

[rare shell]

reinforces that "tribal matters" gameplay i like to see in my other card games

i do think its one of those mods you play in a lightly modded modpack though

[swift matrix]

unfortunately with things like the energy mechanics being so pervasive it's no longer good in a v+ envioroment

[rare shell]

erm... precisely 🤓 ☝️

[swift matrix]

didn't used to need to be

[rare shell]

its been a while since i played pokermon

[swift matrix]

well... I think the aehtetics and the pokemon only being on by default gave people that impression

[rare shell]

while i am happy that ortalab made it out of the idea guy phase, i feel like the mod overall has some major design philosphy issues that i think need to be addressed, mainly a lot of redundancy. thats probably my biggest gripe with ortalab

[swift matrix]

but it really did fine as a themed vanillia+ mod

[rare shell]

and a lot of other mods too, but ortalab is a big mod so im using it as a discussion point here

[swift matrix]

I think that ortalab works great in a big modpack

specifically because of the redundancy

[rare shell]

with the premise of "what if balatro but inverse" theres bound to be redundancy but i would imagine you would have to exercise some restraint in redundant designs

[novel heron]

how? specifically for me the zodiac cards clash a lot with other, better implemented, star sign related stuff

[swift matrix]

And I just.... don't take zodiacs

[rare shell]

thats my precise problem

[swift matrix]

they don't clog up the shop that much

not with 50 other things there

lol

[rare shell]

every time i see zodiacs or zodiac packs its just "oh, its a dead space"

i like my smaller modpack experiences tbh, after experiencing the dimm's modpack chaos

[swift matrix]

if I roll an astral pack, oh well

[rare shell]

i still feel like i did not achieve my goal of making an interesting consumable type when working on codex arcanum tbh

[swift matrix]

eh, it was very unique for the time

not my thing but uniquw

[rare shell]

im glad i helped make it

just a post mortem

[grand geode]

the worst trap an inverse mod could fall into is making direct inverses instead of "what if this does something similar but completely different"

cough most reversed tarots

cough

[rare shell]

ortalab's jokers are the strongest part of that mod, i just think some fat needs to be cut or reimagined

[swift matrix]

tbh... the 'similar but completely different' is qhat zodiacs tried and failed to go for

[swift matrix]

I have zero issue with anything in ortalab (besides some boss blinds but even most of those are fun) besides the zodiacs

and like.... I just have a veru different philopshy

[rare shell]

i personally dont like the random blind size variants

[swift matrix]

If the vanillia content doesnt' just feel like any other small but equal contribitor to the experience something is wrong

for my modding philosophy, taking all mods played with into account

[rare shell]

why is this a remix 😭

[plush hound]

misclick

[rare shell]

worlds most awesome misclick

[swift matrix]

I mean... it's completely harmless and spices things up

[plush hound]

dead space you say?

[wraith seal]

why is the resolution so ass...

[plush hound]

it's a remastered mechanic perhaps?

[swift matrix]

plus it makes even more types of content vanillia-agnostic

[rare shell]

its not my cup of tea, i dont think it adds too much in terms of interesting gameplay opportunities

how do you figure it makes more types of content vanilla agnostic

[hard plank]

yes my pr was merged

[swift matrix]

I just meant it's yet another thing that has become generilized

made it into an open set

[rare shell]

i dont quite follow, whats being generalized here? randomized ranges for blind sizes?

[swift matrix]

non-boss blinds besides "small" and "big", idk

it was a pretty minor point

[rare shell]

oh its a minor feature to begin with

this is all nitpicky for the record, just my personal critiques and takes

[swift matrix]

it gives it flavor

to me

so do things like the tags being patches

it's aehtetic, sure

but it's chill

[plush hound]

Mods were meant to retain the replayability of certain video games so

[rare shell]

in my experience i do not notice it aside from first blind being a fold so i dont have to fish for a straight, or i have to spend an extra hand on the first blind if its big

[swift matrix]

oh, I'm on team skip-skip play for ante 1

[rare shell]

we're just built different

[hard plank]

😭

[viscid spear]

felt this with cardsauce tbh, its hard to make a new consumable type not completely fuck with how the game is balanced by virtue of them being in the pool

[swift matrix]

I notice the pretty colors on the little logos the most

deadass that's part of the reaosn I like them

[rare shell]

my personal philosphy is i think the fundamentals established in vanilla should shine and shouldn't be suffocated. being able to utilize the tools you learned in vanilla should still be applicable to mod lists, and curated heavy mod lists should imo exhibit this property as well

[hard plank]

which i think my math deck lacks

imo it is basically a gimmick deck

[rare shell]

(this is like my main gripe with every extra suit that mods add)

[plush hound]

my modpack has over 4.1k Jokers

[swift matrix]

I think that the fundemetnal mechanics of the game should remain unaltered, but the specifc content should slide in as just part of a much larger whole

and not shine or stand out in any way

[wraith seal]

solitaire

[rare shell]

i like it when a mod shines and stands out if the system behind it is interesting enough to be layered on top of vanilla

[hard plank]

i only added extra suits because

[swift matrix]

I mean, yeah like... I love reverie's shops