⚙・modding-general

[median rose]

it just has to retrigger everything quite a few times

[round pilot]

talisman is very inefficient which most of the time doesn't matter it just means it takes a small time to finish a very large calculation but

[median rose]

i have one of the most powerful laptop CPUs i'm fine

[round pilot]

once my friend had 400 Cavendish's and that took over 100k calculations iirc

[median rose]

wow

[median rose]

well i have a few jokers

[polar oyster]

17 minutes...

[median rose]

i have a Canvas to the right of my two Faciles

which i think should just about be visible from the edge

what i'm not understanding is this

[round pilot]

sorry, over 500k

[median rose]

why isn't it using my cpu very much

[median rose]

how long were they waiting

[round pilot]

like a couple mins

[median rose]

how was it that fast for them

[round pilot]

for a calculation that was just 3^400

[median rose]

i'm nearly 20 minutes in

32m calculations

[round pilot]

no retriggers

just bannana

[median rose]

oh

[round pilot]

they just had 400 bananas and played a single card

[median rose]

i mean hey im pushing more than 1 million calcs a minute which is good

[round pilot]

which took over 500k calcs somehow

[median rose]

at the 20 minute mark now

[forest juniper]

can anyone help pls

[median rose]

27756 calculations per second lmao

[normal hollow]

update lovely

[full edge]

The complexity of cards barely will matter, it's purely the number of triggers. I think there are some rare jokers in Cryptid that add a lot of complexity, but at the moment I think it's actually just scalae and the other scaling increaser that actually take a lot of time to calculate

But regardless of a joker being a joker that does something for every card held in hand or it being a Cavendish, the game should end up doing a similar amount of calculations

[round pilot]

there weren't any extra triggers

Just the 400 naners

[full edge]

Yeah, I meant that additional triggers are really the only joker type that adds a lot of additional calc time. But the way the game works, 400 cavendishes is already a lot of calculation steps

[round pilot]

how in hells name does that reach 500k calcs tho

[full edge]

Cavendish does nothing for each card in hand. For the game to know that, it needs to ask every single Cavendish what it should do for every single card

[round pilot]

ah

[full edge]

Every calculation step is checked for every joker and relevant card. It's also why playing a high Card vs an ascended 10 card hand won't matter, calc time wise

It will slow down as the numbers get bigger due to the omeganum conversion as well, ofc

[forest juniper]

how would i do that?

im stupid

[full edge]

Also, every joker technically checks whether it'll trigger for every other joker's effect and trigger

[normal hollow]

the same way you did it in the first place but with the newest release

[forest juniper]

i dont remember how i did that so do i just like look it up and download it?

[round pilot]

so my original observation that is is inefficient is accurate

[full edge]

So if you have 399 jokers, buying a new one adds 798 calculations to the stack. Every one of those 400 is checking every other one

[round pilot]

I presume that's a balatro issue tho and not talisman?

[full edge]

Yeah but that's not talisman's fault

It's how balatro is set up

[normal hollow]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.7.1
replace the version.dll in your balatro folder

[full edge]

The inefficiency doesn't matter on the scale vanilla operates on. You'll only notice it when aiming for naninf, after all

[forest juniper]

and... im sorry but how do i get there?

i have the dll but idk where exactly to put it

wait i think i did it

okay yeah

im good

am i gonna need to do this often

or is there some way to have the mod manager work without lovely

wait now it doesnt work

i got this

):

[swift matrix]

Well idk about the actual crash, but one issue is you need newer versions of talisman and steamodded for that version of cryptid

[normal hollow]

probably that jcursor mod is outdated

[swift matrix]

The cursor mod might just be outdated, yeah

[forest juniper]

so how do i fix that

you speak to me like im smart

[swift matrix]

You're probably sol on jcursor, for the others, go to their github pages abs use the green button labeled code in the top right up download updated zips

[forest juniper]

do u have a link to the githubs

so i know where to go

and i just need to download and im good?

[swift matrix]

I'll do you one better, I can just link the file downloads directly

You unzip then and replace he versions in %Appdata%/Balatro/Mods with them

[forest juniper]

alright

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

Remove -main from the Talisman-main folder and make sure it isn't nested

[forest juniper]

i replace this with the new?

[swift matrix]

Yes, and you replace steamodded with the new smods

[stuck steeple]

I'm looking for a score preview, I saw two mods one from divvy last updated in December and one from fantom being updated now. Anyone used either? Which one should I use?

[forest juniper]

alright

[swift matrix]

But make sure they aren't nested, and rename the talisman one like I said

Not being nested means the files should be directly in, for example smods-main, there shouldn't be a folder inside the first smods-main with the sane name and nothing else

[median rose]

100mil calcs?

[forest juniper]

this is what they look like

so what have i done wrong

[peak swift]

Can I get mods on Xbox pc game pass version or nah?

[swift matrix]

You didn't delete your old ones for one

Or rename talisman-main

[forest juniper]

which are the ones without main or with main

ok wait i think its good?

[swift matrix]

They're the ones without main

You delete the old one without main abs rename the new one

[swift matrix]

Also you have to look inside the folders for this

[hearty smelt]

implemented my first joker!!1

[forest juniper]

this is what it looks like now

[swift matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221215713910325330

Divvy started updating his again too

[stuck steeple]

Amazing, tysm gaycoonie

[swift matrix]

Getting closer, just rename talisman-main to just Talisman. And look inside of it

Look inside of smods-main too (don't need to rename that one)

Just screenshot what they look like when you open them and I'll teen you if you need to do anything

[forest juniper]

tryna hide my other stuff

lol

[swift matrix]

This looks right as long as you didn't have to click through an additional folder to get here

[forest juniper]

i just clicked Talisman and it sent me there

same with steam

[swift matrix]

Yes that's right then

Time to try to launch under game again

[forest juniper]

ughhh

i new thing

i launched fromt he mod manager

i can try from steam?

[swift matrix]

Delete jcursor

It's probably too old

[forest juniper]

where do i do that?

[swift matrix]

I guess you can do it through the mod manager if that's where you got it or the same mods folder should have a Jcursor.lua that you just delete

[forest juniper]

these?

[swift matrix]

Actually probably delete all those plain Lua files from November they all look old and not very useful. Idk where you got them, a lot look like the old smods example mods

[forest juniper]

ok

yeah im in

so will i ever need to deal with this again?

[hearty smelt]

what have i created

[median rose]

100 mil

[round pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351648094642503830/1365302257108914266/image-70au7.gif-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[stuck steeple]

Is there a better mod than brainstorm for setting up runs and saving etc? I just saw it in a video but now wondering if there's actually something better out there

[covert kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351648094642503830/1365302257108914266/image-70au7.gif-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif?ex=680cd050&is=680b7ed0&hm=f834cf10506f0cf7e4f875de1cd53c6e81b306052a575560c894aae33cd20508&

[somber bloom]

does that mean lovely still always runs

[delicate dust]

this is one big gift card

[swift matrix]

What if swash tho?

[delicate dust]

good idea

it's now at $53920000001

[hard plank]

juicy floating point precision

[gilded vortex]

why are you awake ;P

[hard plank]

i just woke up

[normal hollow]

good morning

[gilded vortex]

good morning aiko

how are you

[hard plank]

not feeling like answering

[gilded vortex]

I had an idea but it kinda just died here

[gray cove]

My white stake lookin ass

[brisk trail]

one who has not heard sam laskeys hamilton shall not judge the art made for a sam laskey joker

[delicate dust]

let me just spend 5 hours now trying to find pointer

[hearty smelt]

is there a specific way that balatro categorizes jokers as common, uncommon, rare or legendary?

[dreamy abyss]

"Pay ur fuckin taxes" is sending me

[brisk trail]

https://youtu.be/N5cvtJzyXpQ
the joker is based on this

[gilded vortex]

what do you mean

[gray cove]

Respectfully dogshit

Respectfully

[dreamy abyss]

ok but imagine pairing this with Tax Fraud from Cryptid

[brisk trail]

which the art is made to reflect

[gray cove]

Im just giving my humble opinion

[delicate dust]

WHATRG

[gray cove]

The art is good

[hearty smelt]

liek does it go "Scaling Xmult is rare, non scaling is uncommon. scaling +mult is uncommon and non scaling is common"

[gray cove]

And the joke is good

The song

[delicate dust]

@swift matrix

[olive shell]

Anyone know why cryptid through balatro mod manager is giving this? I have Talisman 2.2.0~dev and Steamodded 0323b (0419b doesnt even exist?)

[hard plank]

isn't lucky cat uncommon

[gray cove]

Its rate

Rare

I think

[gilded vortex]

kinda

[brisk trail]

it's uncomon

[swift matrix]

Fuck I hate BMM

[gray cove]

Really?

Crazy

[gray cove]

Bro i believe you😭🙏

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

Replace your smodded with this and your talisman with this" https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[swift matrix]

It's like hologram... better than many rares

[gray cove]

The family type jokers are ass

[brisk trail]

hologram the goat

[hard plank]

the tribe:

[olive shell]

Thanks!

[swift matrix]

Maybe I just like weird little pink pills but I stg I always read your name as "the mother f*cking benadryl"

[brisk trail]

...

[harsh glacier]

aw hell nah jimbo took 40 benadryls

[hard plank]

the green pills

[gray cove]

Green pilss

Pills

Is crazy

[swift matrix]

Pffft

[brisk trail]

benadryl no more :'(

[swift matrix]

I do use a Debian based distro, lol

[hard plank]

pretty sure that thing on the left is basically Estradiol

[swift matrix]

Yeah I'm not that sorta LGBT but I figured that was the joke

[novel heron]

the l in lgbt stands for linux, you didn't know?

[delicate dust]

i have made a terrible mistake (this has been going for a while now)

[swift matrix]

Linux Gnu BSD Terminal

[novel heron]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

[swift matrix]

Eugh the misery of not being a Stallman hater

[brisk trail]

bro as a nixos user wtf 😭

[swift matrix]

While hating the pedantic nonsense sometimes (most of the time)

[delicate dust]

is there a way to turn off the rumbling sound from ascended hands

[swift matrix]

Replace the file with a silent one /hj

[delicate dust]

goated idea actually

another alternative is to just turn the game's audio off i'm stupid

ALMOST THERE

[maiden stag]

can someone please help, i don't know how to get cryptid ;n;

[brisk trail]

updated it so that it's actually worth the 100$ you need to buy it lmao

[stuck steeple]

Any better alternatives to the brainstorm mod?

[brisk trail]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid

[delicate dust]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid click green code button, download zip, goto appdata/roaming/balatro/mods, insert it there, download smods and talisman from the page i just linked, put those inside the mods folder and ur done

[maiden stag]

thank you!

the file you mentioned doesn't appear to exist in mine ;n;

[delicate dust]

good lord what have i done part 2

[delicate dust]

that's odd, are you on windows?

[maiden stag]

yeah I'm on windows, i also just realised i don't have steammodded instaled, or talisman, and i have no idea how to properly install those 😭

[delicate dust]

yours should look like this (ignore the brazilian portuguese), if you don't have a Mods folder i think you can just create one

[delicate dust]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
https://github.com/SpectralPack/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[maiden stag]

I don't have the folders "AppData" or "Roaming", how do i get those? idk what that first one is, so i don't know what to do there ;n;

[delicate dust]

okay so, press and hold the windows key on your keyboard, then press r, after that, a window will pop up on the bottom left corner of your screen
you're gonna want to type in appdata

[hearty smelt]

first you need lovely, just type %appdata% in the taskbar

[delicate dust]

i forgot to mention it's hidden by default on most windows computers

[delicate dust]

oh yeah, i forgot about lovely

[maiden stag]

ok, so i'm in the mod folder, i see lovely in there, but nothing else

[hearty smelt]

just follow this tutorial, but don’t do any of the stuff abt the multiplayer mod, only download lovely and steamodded https://youtu.be/iqTpHz5vZgA?si=AYbveTFPKAlcRabn

[plush hound]

is that mike jabroni

[maiden stag]

ok, got it, now the only thing i'm missing is talisman :D

[delicate dust]

the second link here is talisman's latest version

also, make sure to rename Talisman-main to just Talisman, otherwise it won't work

same thing goes for Cryptid i think

[maiden stag]

ok, thank you! :D

[delicate dust]

yeh, let us know how it goes !

[hearty smelt]

i don’t think it goes for cryptid, but i may be wrong

[maiden stag]

it's working :D thank you! i could've never done it without ya'lls help :)

[delicate dust]

oh my bad

maybe it's good practice either way?

[hearty smelt]

yeah i agree

[swift matrix]

I think the only reason it applies to talisman is because it's a fully lovely mod that doesn't use smodded at all

[dreamy abyss]

I CANT ABORT

[swift matrix]

Fuck me the bad taste jokes I oughtn't make

[dreamy abyss]

oh god energia just gave me like a hundred tags.........

[plush hound]

do you think they got Cryptid here

[dreamy abyss]

watch amber acorn make this unplayable

[swift matrix]

Oh... I forget that Roblox is a deadass game creation platform (one that's really shitty to its creators)

[plush hound]

its GMod for Zoomers

[swift matrix]

I'm technically a zoomer, I sure ain't no millennial

I'm 26

Just never was into roblox for some reason or another. I know other folk my age were or are

[dreamy abyss]

based on what i think i know: for ultimate full skip i assume i need to play either code or antimatter, hope for a ;//RUN and get a good enough shop to go to the last ante and break everything?

[hard plank]

Minecraft

[swift matrix]

Never been into that either

I'm strange for an autistic early zoomer

[hard plank]

man i love Minecraft

[fickle elbow]

Minecraft is pretty cool

[dusky heart]

Yep. It'll start up with the game, take 50ms to check that there's nothing install, then go to sleep. Lovely doesn't make any changes to the game by itself without being asked, so it's no issue.

If you want to hide the lovely console when you launch it with Steam, you can add this line to the launch arguments

[hard plank]

i wish somebody would make a mod

[fickle elbow]

I've made four

[fickle elbow]

Garry made a game that he gambled that people would add content to it

[magic skiff]

Is there any way to start a game with 10 joker slots, or start with "x" pokemon or something llike that?

[dreamy abyss]

you could make a custom deck possibly

[hard plank]

glue

https://youtu.be/wXUdAS0QGuk

[swift matrix]

If you just want a shitton of joker slots and don't mind if the antenna requirement goes up too, you can do sandbox deck with sandbox sleeve from #1228825966940393483

That will give you 9 joker slots, but you don't win til ante 12

[hard plank]

glue for modpack

@native mountain https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Aikoyori's_Shenanigans/Maxwell's_Notebook holy shit lmao

[native mountain]

what

oh right it's the page that i made

[hard plank]

it's funny to see them listed out like this

[dreamy abyss]

WAIT I JUST SAW is the "lion" text in the art a fucking reference to that one tas

[native mountain]

i just copied from the code

[hard plank]

it's just funny to see them laid out in plain text

[delicate dust]

applies brick to played cards

[native mountain]

it's an actual enhancement in the mod

also why is every joker a retrigger type

[hard plank]

no clue

[hard plank]

it's basically mult stone card

[native mountain]

i'm fixing it

what does tsunagite do exactly

[hard plank]

it gives

uh

+chips

+mult

xchips

xmult

[delicate dust]

i should try your mod out perhaps

[native mountain]

i just realized

reciprocal joker is sometimes bad

what if mult is higher than chips

[hard plank]

it is that way for a common joker ig

it's good if you have lots of chips but no mult

[native mountain]

what about 0 mult

is that just an instant naneinf

[hard plank]

i never tested

lemme check the code

ok yeah it probably gets to naneinf

that or it just crashes the game

[plush hound]

this mod is weird

[hard plank]

fucked up in the crib

[delicate dust]

fucked up in the trib

why is everyone's game font so weird

[sinful sigil]

Is there any mod to increase game speed?

(that works)

[lunar sluice]

hello

[rigid furnace]

playing balala

[hard plank]

hi

[lunar sluice]

im currently trying to think of ideas for a blind

or part of a blind but thats irrelevant

[swift matrix]

This uh.... isn't the balatro you're looking for

[delicate dust]

Evil Fucked Up Blind
Uppon selecting this blind, game over

[wind turtle]

Nopeus

[delicate dust]

OH LMFAOOOOO

i just noticed

[swift matrix]

it's the roblox clone

[lunar sluice]

i specifically want it to be something thats difficult regardless of your build aka a puzzle based thing instead of just a high scoring requirement

[delicate dust]

i need to sleep jesus chirst

[sinful sigil]

How can i download it? i don't see a link anywhere

[wind turtle]

https://github.com/jenwalter666/JensBalatroCollection/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[hard plank]

i have evil blind

[sinful sigil]

Do i need to install all of those mods?...

[lunar sluice]

im working on a super evil blind

[wind turtle]

No, you only need to install Nopeus

[sinful sigil]

Can't i install only the nopeus

[swift matrix]

https://github.com/jenwalter666/JensBalatroCollection

Download the zip and just copy nopeus to your mod folder

Disregard the rest

[hard plank]

mine goes like this: you just fucking play rhythm game

[hard plank]

and if you die you lose

[sinful sigil]

how do i do that?

[delicate dust]

gawd damn these look sick

[tranquil vessel]

there's also handy that can (among a ton of other things) increase game speed with a keybind

[hard plank]

i twist the game so much it's unreal

[swift matrix]

Copy the nopeus folder to your mods folder

[lunar sluice]

they are based on a real poker chip set i found online ngl

other than the symbols ofc

[harsh glacier]

hello everyone

[hard plank]

Hana to Nare SSS+ when

https://youtu.be/XqKbuEDvaf8

not a particularly hard song to S

https://youtu.be/LFZ7XevmjeQ

[hearty smelt]

what site do you reccomend for making a spritesheet

[hard plank]

i just draw everything in aseprite

[delicate dust]

costs moner :(

[wind turtle]

You can compile it for free.

[delicate dust]

oh !

[swift matrix]

Just gonna assume you're talking about aseprite

https://github.com/Chasnah7/aseprite-build-script

[hard plank]

compiling manually is a pain tho so

[swift matrix]

Hence the build script

[hard plank]

use some automated script

[delicate dust]

hell yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351648094642503830/1365302257108914266/image-70au7.gif-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

good night chatters of the modding chat of the balatro discord server

[swift matrix]

Take care :3

And BTW for anyone on Linux is even easier. It's on the aur if you're an arch using degenerate and pacstall if you're a based Debian derivative user

And compiling on Linux is just easier anyway

[harsh glacier]

i hate compiling aseprite for windows because it doesn't support msys2

[swift matrix]

I don't know anything about the actual compliation process (I used pacstall) but I don't like that even on Linux it doesn't use system menus and window elements

[harsh glacier]

so i am FORCED to use mircosoft build toolls

[sinful sigil]

Shiny

[hard plank]

you should play letter deck

[sinful sigil]

what is that lol

[hard plank]

Scrabble

[vale canopy]

my completely normal balatro run

finally! a good hand! :3

[vale canopy]

||there are no bugs occurring in this image btw :3||

[steady escarp]

this funky ass remake is unironically what got me into balatro
(also no it does not it barely has like half of the base game features lmao)

[swift matrix]

Wait... we can just make polls in the main moddiing chat?

[hard plank]

@vestal valve i love chicot

[vestal valve]

its great isnt it

[hard plank]

it's boring still

but it's not bad

why can't i pick both

[swift matrix]

Guess I shoulda made it select multiple

[hard plank]

i have two primary devices

[harsh glacier]

i have 2 as well

[swift matrix]

I'll remake

[harsh glacier]

one is the forbidden device

[plush hound]

i have 5

[hard plank]

actually no i meant 3

[harsh glacier]

i should make the forbidden device a joker

[hard plank]

but i use 2 for modding

[harsh glacier]

additional x1 mult for every time someone reports a shader not working

[hard plank]

this reeks fnf fans adding anything to fnf moment

[harsh glacier]

aikoyori i hate that you're right

[plush hound]

add googol

[harsh glacier]

but you already keep saying that you wanna make rhythm game in balatro

isn't that kind of the same thing

[hard plank]

which is true I am not denying that

[harsh glacier]

how tf do you even play balatro on winlator

[plush hound]

i did use that

[harsh glacier]

sounds like a nightmare

[plush hound]

i used to play Cryptid there

until i got an actual port

[dreamy abyss]

who wants to see a really stupid run i had the other day

[plush hound]

sure

[swift matrix]

It's usable enough for basic playtesing and with termux adding to my modpack. I do it a lot when I'm not at my pc

[dreamy abyss]

perfectly normal code deck gaming

[hard plank]

damn I'm gonna start making new stickers

[plush hound]

perkeo

[dreamy abyss]

there were two of them if i recall

[hard plank]

perkolator

[white lance]

anyone think theyre able to help me out with my game not being able to get to the menu?

[dreamy abyss]

two perkeo

[lunar sluice]

wheres 2 sided shape joker

[plush hound]

share crash log

[white lance]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: card.lua:412: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 385) near 'perma_x_chips'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0323b-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x2266cf38'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x2266a5a8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x2266a5f8, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[plush hound]

update everything

smods, talisman, cryptid

any mods

[white lance]

[hard plank]

outdated Cryptid

[white lance]

works now, cheers

[hard plank]

where is hypercube

[harsh glacier]

hyperjoker >>>>>>>>

[dreamy abyss]

i wish i had a funny reaction image to respond to this with

[hard plank]

rhythm game in balatro better than chess deck

[left quest]

nice

[karmic compass]

what ga,me

[hard plank]

sound vortex

[karmic compass]

based

Slam Left and Slam Right enhancement

where when the card scoreds it moves itself to either the leftmost or rightmost position in the scoring hand (it give some good bonus to justify having them)

situational with normal hands but should really fuck up the word and math cards

what do you think

[hard plank]

ante 8 boss

[wispy canopy]

Which one?

[left quest]

the former, allow flexiblity,

[dreamy abyss]

you could probably see how ;//COMMIT writes it since this sounds a lot like ;//COMMIT from cryptid
but im not the boss of you you can do whatever you want. make it a keyword if you think you'll use the keyword in other stuff

[karmic compass]

there's only one thing i'll commit if i ever have to play cryptid

[dreamy abyss]

o.O

[hard plank]

when will silksong come out

[rigid jewel]

Never

[floral wing]

How do I add enhancements?

[wind turtle]

Add enhancements to a card?

[tacit dawn]

anyone know how to touble shoot or read mod errors, i am trying to run crytped and a few other mods and it keeps giving me a error after crashing and i cant figure it out

[floral wing]

yes

[wind turtle]

card:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS.m_prefix_key)

[glacial rune]

what's the mod called that lets you use all consumables in 1 button?

i may be playing cryptid and have like 90 perkeo retriggers

[hard plank]

incantation

[hard plank]

what is the crash

[tacit dawn]

one sec lemme grab

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: card.lua:2742: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 2727) near 'end'

i have the long version with the stack trace but i didnt wanna post a whole paragraph in here if it aint needed

[hard plank]

post it.

[tacit dawn]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: card.lua:2742: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 2727) near 'end'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0425c-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x0e18d368'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 884
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x0e18eff8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x0e18f048, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[hard plank]

show mods folder

[hard plank]

okay so

first Talisman folder needed to be named Talisman

[tacit dawn]

done

[hard plank]

secondly what version of Cryptid are you running

are you downloading the stable release

[tacit dawn]

what ever the most recent release is and idk lemme go find the exact version rq

what ever main is, i cant find a actual version number on github

i can link the github page if that helps

[hard plank]

okay so

i would say

remove Cryptid and Talisman and Steamodded

then use ones in https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/releases/download/v0.5.5b/Cryptid.0.5.5b.zip

[glacial rune]

how does it work? i still have to use the sol's one by one 😭

[hard plank]

did you install incantation

[glacial rune]

mhm, and the library needed for it

[tacit dawn]

ok ill try that brb

[hard plank]

some consumables just aren't supported i guess

[glacial rune]

is this the mod that i believe raffel uses?
with like a blue "use all" button on a consumable

WAIT

IT WORKS NOW

i just had to do some settings stuff

ha!

[glacial rune]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-estrogen-gif-12757421495138386956

[tacit dawn]

ok i deleted the files and replaced them with the 3 inside of the version you sent but it still crashed and throws the same error with a new line

[dreamy abyss]

let me find a funny reaction image hang on

[glacial rune]

i wanted to find one too but i have to many gifs to go through 😭

[dreamy abyss]

nvm this is the only fitting one i could find online

[glacial rune]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-no-no-no-gif-17920518556993732672

this also works

i think i broke this mod finally

my game is lagging so hard

[hard plank]

i would say remove one of the other mods and test

[glacial rune]

WHY DOES PERKEO GET USED LIKE 500 TIMES

[tacit dawn]

ok brb

[glacial rune]

i think this is an infinite loop somehow...

[hard plank]

you should try my mod

[glacial rune]

OH MY GOD IS THAT HATSUNE MIKU I SEE IN YOUR GAMEPLAY VID

WHATS THE MOD CALLED

I NEEWD IT

[tacit dawn]

AYYYY lets go, balatro plus was throwin the fit

[glacial rune]

also

yup, now all my hands are like lvl 120

nice

i... dont have retcon

[tacit dawn]

@hard plank thank you for the help, im still confused why balatro plus stopped working all the sudden cuz it was working fine a few days ago with that exact combo and then today i started the game and it booted vanilla and so i reinstalled each of the mods and then it bricked

[hard plank]

#1328621901496713328

also try my content mod #1326135270759993364

[glacial rune]

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[hard plank]

-# (also made by me)

[glacial rune]

you are the single best person i have ever met

and now i have to reroll until i get lunchador

just for this single god damn boss

wait im stupid

like actually an idiot

i picked up chicot

just for this moment

[hard plank]

i am desperate

[glacial rune]

i forgot about it

[glacial rune]

solitaire???

OH NO I FORGOT TO SWITCH OF PERKEO

NO

I HAVE TO NOW WAIT UNTIL I GET ALL 670 SOLS

[glacial rune]

also i will

[wary sandal]

does anyone know how to enable the drag to select cards from the handy mod

[tacit dawn]

@hard plank can you make sense of this error cuz i wanna try to fix the issue cuz i liked that combo of mods but the error log might aswell be alien cuz i cant read anything in it

[glacial rune]

so funfact for everyone here

the pin has priority over chicot

[tacit dawn]

what do the cats do, i got em one run and couldnt figure out a use

[glacial rune]

they make a sound

and you can merge them

and thats literally all

[tacit dawn]

dang so it really aint that deep

man my brain is raising my rooms temp trying to figure out this crap

[glacial rune]

anyways i hate this game

why does the pin have priority

why

this is fun tho

now a challenge from my friend, go for... Xe261 score

[hard plank]

are you dragging from outside of the cards

wrong reply

[hard plank]

are you dragging from outside of the cards

[rugged fable]

Chicot reverses the effects of a boss blind after it starts. Unfortunately, that effect happened to disable Chicot. Luchador ftw

[glacial rune]

yea i forgot thats how it works

i really hope they rework chicot

cause outside of the exploit its useless

[brisk seal]

oods of that are very low

[glacial rune]

a person can hope

[brisk seal]

just get enough Oops all 6s!

then it's guarenteed

[glacial rune]

REALLLL

[glacial rune]

also wtf is my luck, 29 ante's and not a single director's cut or voucher related skip tag (i had the exotic joker that gives me multiple tags)

(like 40x tags)

[dreamy abyss]

one day while playing cryptid i learned that chicot does something very silly with sapphire stamp

[brisk seal]

the stacking thing

cuz i'll be upset if mathisfun didn't fix the bug for 1 chicot yet

[glacial rune]

wait what does it do?

does it select an extra card for you or smth

[brisk seal]

opposite

[dreamy abyss]

it permanently gives you +1 selection limit if you have even ONE chicot that disables it

[brisk seal]

BRUH

[glacial rune]

OH

WHAT

[brisk seal]

i pointed this out months ago

legit last year

not even that late last year

how is this still a bug

[glacial rune]

it doesnt even make sense, how tf does this happen

[brisk seal]

it makes sense if u code

[dreamy abyss]

we take those

[glacial rune]

god i gotta get into coding finally

ive been putting it off for like 2 years at this point 😭

[harsh glacier]

don't

[glacial rune]

i will >:3

[brisk seal]

coding is fun

and also horrible

[wanton rapids]

best and worst mistake of my life

[brisk seal]

at the same time

[glacial rune]

the little of coding i have done before was annoying but also fun af

one time i spent like an hour trying to fix a mistake where i forgot a single capital letter in the name of a variable

it was fun tho

[lofty hawk]

im making a set of lightsaber jokers. what effects should they have

[gloomy mural]

help
(was just about to beat ante 8. stickers are a nil value?)

[glacial rune]

i feel like 2X mult, 1/4 chance to destroy any scored card could work for deck thinning and early mult

as a note i've never seen starwars, all i know is that they seem incredibly fucking dangerous to use like i'd fully just cut my head off with one in an instant hence the effect :p

as a rare joker

[glacial rune]

maybe tweak the numbers idk, im not good at game balancing kekw

but as a general idea i feel like it could work

[wind turtle]

Update the mod.

https://github.com/Somethingcom515/SealsOnJokers/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[gloomy mural]

why is it asking for Cryptid

wait

DONT TELL ME
NO

(im installing Cryptid Mod)

[wind turtle]

Should be fixed.

[gloomy mural]

also why is 1.7.0 still listed as latest on the github page

[gloomy mural]

is my PC this cooked
there is no fucking way (memory allocation failed)

[wind turtle]

Try getting this version of Aikoyori's Shenanigans?: https://github.com/Aikoyori/Balatro-Aikoyoris-Shenanigans/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[gloomy mural]

it just fucking closed without crashing

[wanton rapids]

that's just the bug for a corrupt png

[swift matrix]

New update for my modpack coming right up

[wanton rapids]

2000???

[swift matrix]

Also was already gonna say i hate this blind on ante 1, but it triggers twice so it's even more borked. Idek what mod it's from

[swift matrix]

Yes... to be clear this is a mod pack, a collection of many mods (including yours) that I'm talking about and that's just my whole collection

[wanton rapids]

yeah i know

i just didnt know that we'd hit 2000 jokers yet

[swift matrix]

Crazy Joe @plush hound has over 4k in his personal modpack

[wanton rapids]

damn

[plush hound]

who

[swift matrix]

I'd probably have over 3k if I trusted older mods to work with newcalc

[plush hound]

OH ME

ohhhh

[swift matrix]

Yeah, lol. Though I don't actually know your pronouns. Sorry if I assumed wrong

[plush hound]

no its fine

i just realized you're calling me

i thought you're calling someone else

[swift matrix]

Yeah, lol. Crazy Joe is just a fun nickname in context

[plush hound]

back in my day where smods 0.8.9 was a thing

[swift matrix]

There's actually a few more, realized I had one submodule in the wrong folder

[floral wing]

How is there so much of everything?

[swift matrix]

Over 50 basically vanillia+ mods (a few just being qol)

https://github.com/GayCoonie/Coonies-Mod-Pack-Neo/tree/main/Mods

This is the mod list (the one I the Readme is pretty putdated)

https://github.com/GayCoonie/Coonies-Mod-Pack-Neo/releases/tag/Release-20250425a

Here's the new release that I was talking about

Now that that's done I can be done fucking around with termux and winlator for now, lol

Yes I do have and mostly play on a computer, I'm just not in the same room as it a lot

[gray cove]

Good morning chat

[full edge]

Any favorite jokers at this point?

[reef viper]

hey uh

anyone got the new steamodded

cant play cryptid without it

[full edge]

Cryptid provides a compatible version of smods if you download it through releases!

[reef viper]

is it on bmm?

sorry lol i just got here and am new to the whole modding stuff

[full edge]

Ah if you're using bmm, it might not. I think bmm allows you to select a version for smods

[reef viper]

Yea i downloaded smods on there but my game kept crashing, idk what the issue was i think i need a newer version of smods but idk where :/

[swift matrix]

I have favorites but haven't really formed any new ones given the new version of the modpack. I'm too focused on putting it together when I'm otherwise able to play that I haven't played too much

Like I'm not sure I have a single completed proper molded run since coming back

[tropic egret]

balatro deck where every blind becomes a puzzle

"play the only winning hand"

[exotic belfry]

I can't believe it but I was successfully able to make a new stats tab

[prisma latch]

oh im def gonna have to steal the source code for that for power cards

lmao

[exotic belfry]

It surprisingly only took like 3 patches and a helper function

Granted I already had some of the other things in place to make it work like colors 'n' such but still

[hard plank]

the weather is fucking killing me dawg

[swift matrix]

Too warm or too cold or too rainy ig?

Tbh is too warm here by my standards

[wraith seal]

https://gyazo.com/f83efd79182ed91893bae920e86e9417

[swift matrix]

But that's only the 70s farenheit

Or did you mean a boss blind called the weather or something, lol

(I may be doing an autism)

[ebon laurel]

uh

help?????

[dreamy abyss]

nice softlock luigi

[wanton rapids]

i want to make a joker that spawns a planet card but with a Balala Jokerpoker skin

[swift matrix]

Press end?

[plush hound]

what's that mod that adds nubby items again

I'm addicted to Nubby's and Balatro

[plush hound]

so AI generated

[wanton rapids]

balala jokerpoker has chemistry cards instead of planet cards

[swift matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1356382503354634443

I think?

[iron cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233186615086813277/1365352691920015433/roffle_lite_lite.gif

[wanton rapids]

what if balatro was good

[swift matrix]

God just looked that up. I'm fine with balatro clones... I'm fine with ai art. But I can't handle how they are look like that were designed by committee and have negative 1 million personality. Unless you mean something else by balala joker poker

[wanton rapids]

balala jokerpoker is the one on the app store

[dusky heart]

Only just saw this. If you uninstall Steamodded first, you can select the version from a dropdown box below the Download button.
Cryptid dev version currently requires Steamodded ~0404b-ish or newer, getting the latest version should work for now

[swift matrix]

Yep that's the one I was looking at

[wanton rapids]

yeah im just thinking it would be funny to have like "Chemist" that creates a "chemistry card" at end of round

[harsh glacier]

balala ,,,,,

[wanton rapids]

which just creates a reskinned planet

[harsh glacier]

originally my mod was actually called balala^2 before i renamed it

i probably still have that version of my mod actually lmao

[harsh glacier]

is this what planets are to rotarots

[hard plank]

it was like 36°C

[harsh glacier]

or the other way around

i forgot

[plush hound]

it's Codex Arcanum all over again

[swift matrix]

Oh fuck that

[harsh glacier]

33°C here :]

[plush hound]

48° C in here

[harsh glacier]

are you baking

[plush hound]

im dark skinned can you tell

i mean it's not THAT hot

[plush hound]

although i sweat like a pig sometimes

[harsh glacier]

hi aikoyori

[swift matrix]

Man, it was like 22-25c here today at worst, now it's nighttime, only like 8 c out and I still have my ac on and am sweating

I'm... not made for any sort of warmth

[plush hound]

the fire inside of me burns brighter

or hotter

im not hot tho

[wanton rapids]

oh maybe but no

[dreamy abyss]

HOW CAN I HELP YOU KING DEDEDE-

[plush hound]

for your last challenge

[hard plank]

are you fucking adding chemical cards like in balala

[plush hound]

make a mod that changes all of the UI in-game

[wanton rapids]

no i will add a joker that spawns a reskinned planet card

[hard plank]

so joker poker balala joker

[plush hound]

there's a mod that adds bootleg joker

i forgot what mod that is

it copies last bought joker from the shop

[swift matrix]

I wonder when they'll be a balatro clone that doesn't manage to have negative soul and look like a PowerPoint from sine cooperate office

[plush hound]

do you think they support Cryptid?

[swift matrix]

Pfft

[dreamy abyss]

Harry Potter Obama

[wraith seal]

is that mario

[plush hound]

THERE'S AN EXACT JOKER THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS

but GOD

i can't remember

what mod it is

also grand dad

[hard plank]

maximus?

[plush hound]

is it?

they're offline

[swift matrix]

Ykbow I have had that as a random thought. What if someone ate to make a balateo clone, without just plagiarizing the code that's... right fucking there, that manages to be compatible with smods. Would technically be possible through reverse engineering, but we're talking like... a major undertaking for no gain

[plush hound]

tlauncher????

[swift matrix]

Why is he standing in a puddle of green piss though?

[plush hound]

it's.. grass..

[swift matrix]

I know :p

[hard plank]

I'm not letting intrusive thoughts win today

no

[wanton rapids]

openbalala?

[plush hound]

is it allowed?

i dont know

Openlatro sounds cool tho

[harsh glacier]

openlatro ,,,,

openlala

[stuck steeple]

Does anyone know a mod like Brainstorm that's better? I like it but now I see there's tonnes of mod I wondered if there's one that does it better

[grand geode]

gosd

[full edge]

Morning myst

[grand geode]

good 3:28pm in my timezone

[harsh glacier]

where do you live

[grand geode]

not the philippines

[full edge]

Same

[harsh glacier]

good

[full edge]

How's the ZZZ going

[hard plank]

hi wanna collab

[grand geode]

what game

[vague vector]

Someone want to play with me pvp on Balatro?

[hard plank]

rd

[grand geode]

i miss my wife

[hard plank]

wife

[grand geode]

sure

[stuck steeple]

Is handy better than brainstorm mod?

[full edge]

Who's your waifu?

[full edge]

They offer separate things. Different QoL changes

[stuck steeple]

Is there any others like Brainstorm for setting up runs and saving etc? Or is that the go to for most people

[tropic egret]

debug plus has save states but it also has the power to give you naninf dollars

[stuck steeple]

Can you set up a run like brainstorm, like set the shop items and stuff?

[tropic egret]

not exactly easily

[stuck steeple]

Okay thank you! I'll stick with brainstorm for now then

[hard plank]

i need someone to help test letter deck

[dreamy abyss]

what do you need tested in it?

[exotic belfry]

Hi chgat

[full edge]

Hello Astra

Should I play some vanilla Balatro, or Maximus? 🤔

[exotic belfry]

Up to you if you wanna play a half finished mod lol

1.0 soon™️

[prisma latch]

secret third option
rendoms

[full edge]

Link thread 🔫

[prisma latch]

No thread yet but lemme grab the link

https://github.com/RenSnek/Balatro-Rendoms/releases/tag/0.1.0

[full edge]

i don't think i've played any mod that dared to call itself finished yet, haha

[prisma latch]

Lol

[exotic belfry]

I will dare in due time. I am cooking like a Mischelin star chef rn

[full edge]

hahaha

get that hype cycle going

I'm still gonna play with it today, though. After I played with Ren's mod

[exotic belfry]

I’m at the point where if I’m not adding Jokers I’m doing the small things

[prisma latch]

yayy

[full edge]

Imagine doing anything besides adding jokers

[exotic belfry]

Like I figured out how to make a stats page for one of my card types

[full edge]

Honestly, I should set up a better list for Kino of additional things to do. There's so much stuff that needs to be polished outside of jokers

(apparently nobody can figure out how confections work 🥲 )

[full edge]

ooh, that looks really cool

[prisma latch]

confections seemed simple to me

[exotic belfry]

Took only 3 patches and a helper function btw

[swift matrix]

I think Bunco was technically finished by Firch's standards when he peaced, hence the peacing

[full edge]

Ah, then Bunco's the only one with that honour

[exotic belfry]

Cryptid will probably never be “finished” tbh

[full edge]

I've decided that once I've got Quest jokers set up, 10 total legendary jokers, and finished the Thriller seal and Mystery enhancement, that's when Kino's got a 1.0 version and everything else I'll do with it will be bonus content

[prisma latch]

you guys plan on stopping at 1.0? 1.0 is just the beginning

[wanton rapids]

you know honestly i might call fluff finished with this next update

except for crossmod

[prisma latch]

my mod might end up with more legendaries than normal jokers if i keep offering out oc legendaries

[swift matrix]

I mean I kinda don't believe in finished software. I'm too linuxy

[exotic belfry]

Maximus 1.0 is what I consider “feature complete,” but updates are definitely still on the table

[full edge]

I've got 260 jokers added in Kino at the moment, if I keep adding more there's no consistency in the pool anymore at all, haha

[prisma latch]

Lmao

[exotic belfry]

And I thought my goal of 150 was a lot

[full edge]

yeah, crossmod's always still on the table for me as well. I'd like Kino to have crossmod content for every mod that adds something new that I'm into. Like colour cards, bakery's charms, or Maximus' zodiacs

[wanton rapids]

tbh im already scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to new jokers

there's definitely ideas but i just cant think of them

[full edge]

it's a lot more in your case, considering you need a separate person to do the art for them, and I can work out a new joker art in about 5 minutes

[swift matrix]

See this is why I run a lot of mods at once. One mod could add 300+ jokes without polluting the pool

[exotic belfry]

This is very fair

[full edge]

Part of why I've added a lot of new mechanics, so I have more levers to pull

I am considering adding status effects for jokers and boss blinds to interact with, like poison, but I think that's straying the theme of Kino a bit too much

[swift matrix]

Which is why I often /don't/ end up adding some of the mods with a ton of jokers

[full edge]

I can fully support that reasoning, haha

[dreamy abyss]

afaik for bh crossmod content we only have cardsleeves planned, as well as some just-in-case implementation so one of our tarots doesnt completely shit itself when running cryptid's deck of equilibrium

[swift matrix]

Novel mechanics where the mod is eating its own ass are well and good... on their own

[full edge]

I like playing mods like Fluff and Bakery together a lot more than I enjoy cryptid and kino together, just because of the way the bloat of mechanics tend to create a lot of anti-synergies

[exotic belfry]

Speaking of new things, I’ve come to the realization that I wanna make Achievements and I need ideas. Already have a few basics like “Collect every Maximus joker” and “Complete each Horoscope card at least once” etc, but I wanna do quite a few more

[full edge]

Kino's also got jokers that are weaker than vanilla equivalents, specifically because there's synergy that can buff them or add joker slots, which are cancelled out by adding a lot of mods, of course

[dreamy abyss]

i dont play with a really big conglomerate of mods, i only have maybe four or five content mods and the only really big one is cryptid

[prisma latch]

i will eventually maybe add sleeves crossmod, also as stated before i want a kino crossmod mlp movie joker lol

[swift matrix]

#1267720426109272135 I have many much

[exotic belfry]

Sleeves could be a fun thing to look into for crossmod

[prisma latch]

What would the sleeve-deck synergy for friendship deck be..

[dreamy abyss]

i have:
-cryptid
-reverie
-riftraft
-balatro hevven
-cardsleeves
and thats about it :P

[swift matrix]

(The Readme is outdated af, if you actually wanna see what's in the pack, look in the mods folder)

[exotic belfry]

Reverie my nemesis… /j

[dreamy abyss]

i still need to check if it was reverie's vouchers that were crashing on redeemed deck

[prisma latch]

ill prolly call my mod 1.0 when its at 2 full joker pages, but 1.0 does not mean done at all for me

[swift matrix]

I think the reason I like reverie but not a lot of other novel mechanics is that it functions independently and doesn't need or rely on internal synergies

Also I just love buying things

[harsh glacier]

coonie would HATE polterworx

[exotic belfry]

Wdym by internal synergies?

[harsh glacier]

or almanac

or whatever its called

[wanton rapids]

the mod formerly known as almanac is very dubiously designed imo

[dreamy abyss]

polterworx scares me

[prisma latch]

Would it be too much to have 1/3 of all my jokers be legendaries
i want every page to have the last row be legendaries

[swift matrix]

Mods with content that as I phrased before kinda 'eats its own ass' things like jokers that are programmed to look for and benefit from other jokers from the same mod as a basic example.

[harsh glacier]

the first jokers i made are all rares its fineeee

[exotic belfry]

Ah yeah I see. That’s yucky design and I absolutely stray away from that

[swift matrix]

I mean I'm always for making soul pulls more interesting

[prisma latch]

the closest ive come to jokers that rely on eachother id cocksley and catapult nullifying eachothers negatives, but they still work as normal hokers

[hard plank]

i mean not just coonie

i have nerd glasses now i can point stuff out

[prisma latch]

I might add like Spark Packs as booster that let you pull from a selection of legendaries but the packs would be rare (but more accessible than soul), expensive, and maybe have an additional downside

[harsh glacier]

is aikoyori the tldr joker irl

[prisma latch]

how do we feel about legendary-only booster packs chat

[wanton rapids]

doesnt a mod already add those?

it's probably fine

[prisma latch]

Idk

[harsh glacier]

what about modded legendary booster packs

[swift matrix]

Maybe instead you can get More Joker Packs working again?

Fork that shit

[exotic belfry]

For example, Horoscope benefits are only ever vanilla related. There are Horoscope Jokers that allow you to really spec into them, but they act similarly to how a planet or tarot joker would

[full edge]

💔

[swift matrix]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1264396691365302364

(I'm not even sure it's broken but I don't trust mods drum before bettercalc)

[wanton rapids]

parasitic mechanics can be fun but they don't work well in modpacks yeah

[exotic belfry]

I’m trying super hard to not make thing completely irrelevant. Lots of side-stepping when adding features

[tropic egret]

making vanilla content irrelevant is something i don't like

[exotic belfry]

Agreed

[tropic egret]

it's vanilla+ not -vanilla smh guys

get it together

[hard plank]

😭

[wraith seal]

i went from making b:sr for practice to a mod thats gonna have its own story, jrpg system and such

am i cooked

🥀

[full edge]

Story???

[wraith seal]

story, yes

[prisma latch]

Buh???

[exotic belfry]

What 😭

[full edge]

I'd agree but on have you considered JoyousSpring?

and Pokermon?

[harsh glacier]

unless your mod is basically kind of a content overhaul like joyousspring or kino i don't think you should make your stuff make vanilla stuff irrelevant

[hard plank]

am i cooked chat

[swift matrix]

I mean also don't eat vanillia's ass though that's just as bad on a big pack

[tropic egret]

pokermon still has use for vanilla jokers

[hard plank]

i am ultimately adding custom shit

[tropic egret]

it's just. a lot

of new jokers

[full edge]

yeah, that's true, though I definitely prefer to play with the vanilla jokers off in Pokermon

[tropic egret]

not exactly an override

[full edge]

I'm still considering making the vanilla content truly irrelevant by making an exact Kino joker copy of each vanilla joker, haha

mainly just because I want to draw Seth Rogen as Perkeo ig

[swift matrix]

Pokermon is in my pack but it's changed a lot since I added it

[wanton rapids]

just make a malverk skin at that point

[swift matrix]

It now has many parasitic mechanics got bent turn off

Like energies

[harsh glacier]

hi ali

[tropic egret]

Red Flag - Common
+2 mult when Booster Pack or Blind skipped
+1 mult per unused discard

^ that's what an override is imo

just straight up better

[exotic belfry]

I would honestly call Pokermon a conversion mod atp since it takes so many aspects from Pokemon TCG

[grand geode]

without having played pokermon it seems like a mess of mechanics

[dreamy abyss]

i dont know if coonie would like bh based on what he's stated but then again i may be stupid

[harsh glacier]

me with charred joker

it's just better burned joker 😭

[full edge]

Haha, the reason to remake them as Kino jokers isn't for visual reasons, it's so some of those custom ass-eating systems in Kino can start working with vanilla jokers. The only way to make my approach to power boosts work, as far as I've managed, is by hard-coding them. It'd also allow the vanilla jokers to have genres, release dates and budgets that some aspects of Kino care about

[swift matrix]

There used to be an option just to add the jokers as normal jokers and have all the special stuff off

[swift matrix]

What is bh exactly?

[full edge]

Once I've finished making actual progress on Playsets, I'll make a selection of Pokermon content that's mostly vanilla compatible for ya, coonie

[hard plank]

chat is it bad that my mechanics barely have no vanilla overlap

[full edge]

It's what the dutch refer to bras as, so I don't think you'd care much for it

[tropic egret]

i feel like shenanigans is not exactly meant to be vanilla+

[exotic belfry]

Is this the Balatro version of Pixelmon vs. Cobblemon /j

[dreamy abyss]

balatro hevven is a mod based on rhythm heaven that mostly just adds a new consumable type and some other stuff like jokers (for now)

[hard plank]

it isn't

[harsh glacier]

technically the nil joker mechanics in my mod has no vanilla overlap but i think being able to turn any joker into a nil joker probably counts idk

[swift matrix]

Even though I'll never play it, no. It's not a bad thing, it just only really works standalone

[tropic egret]

then it's fine

[full edge]

It does have a lot of them (I still haven't figured out exactly what Hazards do, but I've not yet really picked them up), but generally, it's pretty cohesive in feel. It feels more complex when listed then when it is in play

[full edge]

a new civil war is brewing

[swift matrix]

This is also a point. I can't critique mods not meant to be vanillia+ because that's where I live

[harsh glacier]

Vanilla+ vs. Vanilla-

[full edge]

I do need to bully people into helping for Playsets so there can be UI that's not shit at some point.

[prisma latch]

I always hated how pixelmon looked. Like those are NOT pixel mon.

[tropic egret]

Vanilla- is also known as Chocolate

[hard plank]

i at least want it to work with other mods so it's a bit more fun

[tropic egret]

aikoyori is a chocolate modder

[exotic belfry]

They just ripped stadium models and called it a day. Bleh. So glad Cobblemon is usurping it with such lovingly made models

[harsh glacier]

what's chocolate doom then

[grand geode]

hazards work with like 5 pokemon lol

[tropic egret]

chocolate doom is My House

[hard plank]

sdlmon

[tropic egret]

obviously

[harsh glacier]

sdlmon 😭

[grand geode]

7 actually, close enough

[prisma latch]

ok what do i add to my mod now that 0.1.0 is out
I could be ambitious and try adding the Stasis mechanic

[exotic belfry]

What does your mod do?

[swift matrix]

I mean, it really depends on what the consumable type does and if the rh references would feel weird and obtuse to someone not into the franchise

[hard plank]

when I'm done with solitaire I'll add rhythm game finally

[prisma latch]

Random Bullshit Go

[exotic belfry]

Lmao

[prisma latch]

New suits, new enhancements, new jokers, new editions, the whole works

[hard plank]

hi

I'm cooked

[harsh glacier]

i need to add more editions but i suck at shaders

[prisma latch]

Hi aiko

[harsh glacier]

hi aikoyori

[hard plank]

why is the weather so hot

hello

[grand geode]

if you ever make rhythm game put me in the charting team

[hard plank]

help

[prisma latch]

It took me so long to figure them out

[swift matrix]

Again the standard question. Is it standarded mod "balance" or is it just anything goes?

[exotic belfry]

Goodness

[prisma latch]

I have no concept of balance so i outsource it to you guys lmao

[full edge]

adding new mechanics in a mod like Pokermon (or Kino for that matter) is strange due to the size of the joker pool, honestly. For a mechanic to function like ' an archetype' (especially if you stray a bit further from vanilla design), you need to have the mechanic tied to a certain level of jokers for it to matter. But the more jokers you add, the more jokers you need to add to function with that mechanic for it to matter

[tropic egret]

personally i feel like making even consumables is pushing it

[prisma latch]

Im happy with my power card consumables, theyre just like spicy tarot cards

[tropic egret]

like my jokers are really. mediocre in terms of how good they are even compared to vanilla

[hard plank]

do people actually pick up tldr joker

[tropic egret]

no

[harsh glacier]

i still need to balance property cards 🥀

[harsh glacier]

i do

[hard plank]

i do actually

[harsh glacier]

it's a good flat mult joker

[grand geode]

my cryptid "crossover" abnormality is just "more jolly jokers lol"

[swift matrix]

Mod consumables are fine... don't mind the 15 pools of consumables that function just like spectrals and tarots...

I really don't mind that though deadass

[full edge]

they're fun! I will say, the edition that adds a random xmult each time a hand scores might be better served from having a dynatext though. I was very confused by it, until I saw the number changed when I hovered over the card again, haha

[tropic egret]

uhhh

[hard plank]

my Cryptid cross mod has

[prisma latch]

power cards i think work fine because most of the editions and enhancements i add thay get applied by them are far too batshit to be tarots. Like Asbestos

[hard plank]

uhm

[tropic egret]

edition??

[dreamy abyss]

the consumables (Flow cards) are only usable during an active blind and have an effect that only lasts for that round
as an example, Skill Star sets up a score check for the end of the round to give you extra money based on how high you scored over the blind target, while Try Again discards and redeals your hand

as for the references id say theres a decent amount of recognizable ones plus some slightly more obtuse ones since its made by a bunch of rhythm heaven enjoyers

[full edge]

wrong message oops

[hard plank]

ultima misprint deck

[full edge]

that was meant for @prisma latch , hahaha

[prisma latch]

Yeah ill figure out how to do it

Eventually

[hard plank]

where values can be between 0.0001x and 10000x

[prisma latch]

Glad to hear you like my stuff

[swift matrix]

Ah I have a personal dislike of things like Codex's alchemicals

[prisma latch]

Anything you feel is under or overpowered?

[full edge]

I need to on my part as well, so I can properly set up jokers with timers to actually have the timer tick down ont he card

[harsh glacier]

currently my cryptid cross mod content is rigged adult card and doodle kosmos 🥀

[full edge]

I've only played one run that crashed because I forgot I didn't turn talisman off like the mod-player I love to complain about 💔 gonna start another in a sec though

[exotic belfry]

I don’t understand consumable types that are just tarot clones but want to be different and not call themselves tarots

[harsh glacier]

im not sure if rigged card actually works in vanilla but it probably does since i made an entire deck for it

[full edge]

like spectrals?

[exotic belfry]

I meant modded types

[swift matrix]

I think part of the reason people do that is that the major arcana is a closed set that's all represented

[prisma latch]

Spectrals are different because they have downsides. Except the seal spectrals which probably should be tarots

[prisma latch]

also they're fucking harddd to draw and im lazy

[hard plank]

my justification: i don't want to add more tarots because these are major Arcana and i feel like it's completed as is

[exotic belfry]

I disagree, Seals can be very powerful and justify the more rare pool

[swift matrix]

Ayy you said the thing I did

[tropic egret]

i wanted to add a consumable type that permanently uses a consumable slot and do some weird stuff but i felt like all of my consumable ideas were more interesting as jokers so i just. made them all jokers lmao

[dreamy abyss]

bh adds totally fake tarots that do weird things

[hard plank]

that's why I'm adding umbra tarot

[wraith seal]

whats bh

[hard plank]

balala haven

[tropic egret]

balatro heaven fever

[grand geode]

bhicken hockey

[full edge]

I get it on one hand. Something I'm noticing due to having added 9 tarots in Kino is that the pool becomes a lot less consistent, which would be solved by turning it into a separate pack. But they're also functionally just tarots, so it wouldn't work as well to make it a separate item pack

[dreamy abyss]

:{

[wraith seal]

what da hell 😭

[harsh glacier]

the only reason why i have tarots is really just because i don't wanna make an entire consumable type and have to devise a new design for said consumable

[swift matrix]

I'm fine with tarots that aren't real major arcana. I just get why people see it as a closed set

[hard plank]

ok do i add 4kvsrg or 1k

[grand geode]

add beat saber

[hard plank]

would it not be funny if i just add adofai

[exotic belfry]

The 56 minor arcana in question

[hard plank]

balala vr