⚙・modding-general

[modest nimbus]

Ill update yall when it stops or when i quit

[twin forge]

unfortunately i cannot make a boss blind have a gradient as the background color cringe

[hard plank]

sealed cards are permanently debuffed

@wraith seal

[dull fractal]

Anybody have some tips on configuring vscode for better intelisense?

[wraith seal]

🔥

this is so peak

[hard plank]

my mod is slowly becoming blind mod

[modest nimbus]

I think my run broke

The jokers are having seizures

Oh shit it finally stopped

Yay

[modern halo]

oh boy!

[wraith seal]

truly a shenanigans moment

[hard plank]

after the raindrop ill stop adding blinds for now

[violet venture]

So, how's the glowing deck?

[tiny bison]

holy shit googol play card

[patent arch]

concept dump
idk how most people do this so heres a jumbled collection of images containing concepts for Jokers lol if theres any that aren't balanced then do tell and ill see what I can do to fix it

[full edge]

time to start the boss blinds

[patent arch]

(one thing I should mention about Omelette is that it has a max of five lol if it didn't then cryptid would go insane)

[violet venture]

With the except of both uncommons...

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-trash-rubbish-dumpsterthrow-dumsta-gif-21944659

[neon orchid]

I got a dumb idea for a joker (got a lot to type though)

[violet venture]

And as for night vision

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-schredder-speech-bubble-speech-gif-10395267259327766160

[patent arch]

lol figures

[violet venture]

THAT THING CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF

[acoustic igloo]

The Paid to Win joker is such a fun idea

[patent arch]

night vision goes back into the workshop, will buff / change the others

[acoustic igloo]

I would much prefer Night Vision being that cards that are debuffed are instead flipped over

Because it doesn't really make much of a difference

So it's buffed up a bit

[violet venture]

Yeah...but that by concept alone can be complete dick move

[neon orchid]

It’s based off Wario driving in the intro of Wario land 4, but Wario replaced with the Jack of diamonds (probably see where I’m going with this)
If a Jack is not drawn (including initial draw), move it up 2 in the draw pile (if possible). If all jacks are out, move to queens then kings.
So if a Jack was in position 11 of a draw pile and I draw an initial 8 cards, it would move up to position 1, being the next draw

[violet venture]

Especially if you're running flushes, straights, anything that isn't a flat out High Card or Clusterfuck

[neon orchid]

Yes it’s hit the road synergy, love that card

[patent arch]

when coming up with these i tried to make ones that would counter specific challenges but cards being face down only happens in boss blinds

[acoustic igloo]

Or maybe debuffed cards can no longer give chips instead being straight up debuffed

So enhancements on those cards still work

[patent arch]

could

might change the item so it tracks better

but it could work

[hard plank]

:(

[violet venture]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-mario-mario-party-mario-party-6-wario-gif-724676364290334683

[neon orchid]

Couldn’t think of a better name than “royalty’s ride” though

[violet venture]

That one is a fucking BANGER for Five of a Kinds

[violet venture]

Call it Get In Fool

[modest nimbus]

i wish i could understand any of this

[patent arch]

for jokertale my first thought is to buff it to 1x per boss blind but do u reckon I should go higher

[modest nimbus]

yes

[patent arch]

1.5x or 2x per

[acoustic igloo]

You could technically get X8 Mult on it before you win the game

[modest nimbus]

probably 2x

[modest nimbus]

to make it worth picking up

[patent arch]

alr

as for omelette what should change with that

[round ore]

Heyo! Sorry to pop in but I have been meaning to make mods for Balatro.
I have barely any expierence and I wanted to ask if there are any guides or any wikis I can check out. I have no idea where to start lol

I looked trough but SteamModded but it's way too confusing haha

[modest nimbus]

honestly dont know what i would change

[patent arch]

no worries lol start with the pins in this channel and the other mod related channels
i dont understand a lick of it but i imagine theres some useful things there

[round ore]

Thank you!! <3

[modest nimbus]

Ihave no idea how to code sadly so i just dont really understand anything when it comes to that

[acoustic igloo]

What is wrong with the Omelette joker exactly?

[neon orchid]

Not enough salt and pepper

[modest nimbus]

I love and hate cryptid at the same time

[modest nimbus]

good one

[shell sundial]

Not enough jokers tbh. Don't think you'll hit the blind requirements. :(

[modest nimbus]

instead of the sell button make it the eat button would be much better

[modest nimbus]

Yeah sadly

Ill find out in a few minutes

Or hours

Probably

[shell sundial]

Haha

[patent arch]

ig omelette is fine lol

that just leaves isolation

[modest nimbus]

@patent arch

[patent arch]

I saw dw lol

[modest nimbus]

😊

Ive been waiting on this one hand for like 7 minutes now and i literally have animations off

[hard bay]

did balatro get updated?? all my custom textures are gone

[modest nimbus]

No idea

[toxic cloud]

I'm cooking so hard rn (deck design is WIP)

[hard plank]

❤️

[radiant cairn]

Any ideas/feedback on these?

[modest nimbus]

Is it time to give up

[hard plank]

yes

[radiant cairn]

Holy moly, bro is a chef

[toxic cloud]

I wasn't joking when I said Ante 38

prepare to suffer bois

embrace your inner masochist

[radiant cairn]

No

I beg of you

Ohh

Wait

[hard plank]

@wraith seal AM I EVIL

[radiant cairn]

Am I allowed to promote my own additions to your mod?

[wraith seal]

its not as bad as the plant at least...

[radiant cairn]

I made one that might be good with that

[wraith seal]

they could still get around it with jokers which give chips instead

make it so it X0.5 chips too :3

[neon orchid]

Eh chips are already oppressed as hell by the ever more popular multi

[radiant cairn]

More specifically, the twins

[neon orchid]

Just like negatives but that’s by the universe itself

[toxic cloud]

well, it's a local mod made for people in one discord server

I'm just adding 3 decks to mess up with vanilla contents, no new jokers or consumables

[young dirge]

Is there a 'how to' for modding?

[wraith seal]

there is, wait

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Your-First-Mod
this should give you some instructions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp-4U5TlbxY&t=7s
the video is a bit oudated, but generally does well at telling you what to do
-# (note: there are some parts in the video where they called cards "center". don't do that, it's a bad practice, they are cards)
https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/master/Mods/EditionExamples/EditionExamples.lua
its a good practice to check out the example mods, as well as other mods too for reference
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions
on top of that, remember to read the documentation

[young dirge]

Sorry, I meant for using mods, not to create mods

[wraith seal]

oh-

[hard plank]

you did it

you son of a gun

[wraith seal]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

here

[radiant cairn]

I have only added a sticker and 2 decks (one of which does literally nothing) I just wanted to offer an idea for expansion. So I'm trying to keep close to vanilla too. For now at least

[wraith seal]

install steamodded, lovely, boot the game once

and in %appdata% -> balatro, there should be a mods folder

you can put mods in there

boot the game, enjoy either unbalanced mods or torture methods straight from hell :3

[wraith seal]

i indeed did it :3

[wind token]

i cant wait for the card sleeve sleeve mod where we can play with 3 decks at once

[bronze locust]

No bones

[shell sundial]

Sleeves for your sleeves.

[wind token]

card protectors

[hard plank]

am i evil

[wraith seal]

would it be funny if it just juices up each card and says "Nope!"

before proceeding to debuff everything

:3

[full edge]

aiko cosplay coming along well, ready to start implementing boss blinds

[wraith seal]

aiko cosplay-

😭

[tranquil vessel]

I had a poll about this, people didn't actually want it that bad haha

[hard plank]

wtf is this🖕

[wraith seal]

i suppose its a bit too overkill

having 2 deck effects is honestly more than enough

3 is just uhh cryptid-level of balancing

[tranquil vessel]

2 is sometimes also incredibly unbalanced already haha

[wraith seal]

agreed

[full edge]

how about if you don't use a sleeve, your cards can get damaged, meaning that if you discard them to get them graded by playing card, they're worth less money???

[wraith seal]

balatro hardcore

[hard plank]

I ACCIDENTALLY

MADE IT SO THAT EVERYTHING IS DEBUFFED

PERMANENTLY

[weak urchin]

balatro if it were boring

[violet venture]

You know there's a "Skip Calculation animations", right

[wraith seal]

balatro if it was peak

also hi yme :D

[weak urchin]

hi bepis :3

[violet venture]

it's in the config of Talisman

[wraith seal]

that seems aligned with shenanigans honestly 😭

[neon orchid]

“Eh idk man I’m just not feeling it anymore”

[wraith seal]

is this what quitting gambling feels like

[hard plank]

i am just going to add blind for cryptid players

the exit door

you can quit now to end it here

or you can keep going

[full edge]

cryptid blind that just turns animations back on

[hard plank]

evil.

[modest nimbus]

Alr

[hard plank]

let's do it

[modest nimbus]

Thx

[violet venture]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-todo-aoi-todo-season-2-gif-13217221645957884603

[neon orchid]

Cryptid blind that just gives your computer malware

[wraith seal]

i have this idea

what if at ante 7, the boss blind is very lenient, and the description is just warning you

then at ante 8, the showdown blind is absolutely devious

:3

[modest nimbus]

Theres no skip calculations theres only skip animations

[wraith seal]

so when players reach ante 7 and see that blind, they can do nothing but cry

❤️

[neon orchid]

And then it’s just like “2 random suits, 6 random ranks, and one random joker disabled every hand” or something silly

[wraith seal]

exactly

its giving you some time, even if just a little, to prepare for whatever's coming

❤️

[violet venture]

@signal wave Oh, and here's the other Abnormality Boss Bind

[wraith seal]

i beat that first try lmfao

apoc bird was worse

took me 4 hours just to find it at first

only to see it disabling all of my playing cards

:3

[violet venture]

You're given a 13 Turn Head Start to prepare your ass once you get Plague Doctor

[native tusk]

could anyone tell me why mult cards dont work

i only have joker displays and run review mods

[wraith seal]

try disabling each of them to see which is causing the issue

[tranquil vessel]

update steamodded

[wraith seal]

every problem in existence when steamodded is updated:

[toxic cloud]

increasing level of suffering

[tranquil vessel]

every currently working vanilla interaction when updating steamodded:

[wraith seal]

what are those deck names 😭

[neon orchid]

Light work

[violet venture]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-fell-bullet-yi-sang-corrosion-gif-15919277415449065281

[toxic cloud]

the first two refers to a Vietnamese game-variety youtuber who accidentally blew up with Balatro viewers

[wraith seal]

oh lmfao

[modest nimbus]

This bull juiced af

[wraith seal]

i mean, im a vietnamese myself, but i dont actually watch that many vietnamese youtubers

[mystic crypt]

guys dont you love it when the mod you download feels like crack

[mystic crypt]

thats easy to get

[violet venture]

THE KNOIFE. IT HUNGERS

[earnest eagle]

@plush hound@rough wadi

[thorn python]

i see a lot of people using that font. why? also how?

[hard plank]

i like it

and people saw it

and they like it too

[earnest eagle]

Sorry, tried to backspace

[hard plank]

#1248865517112918016 is how you do it

[earnest eagle]

Hhelp?

[hard plank]

what did you download today

[earnest eagle]

I wanted to try trance

[tranquil vessel]

rename the folder to "Trance" only

[violet venture]

https://tenor.com/view/muska-exploding-shirt-gif-21058583

World's biggest KNIFE build

[neon orchid]

Not even close

[earnest eagle]

...how'd I fuck w/ fonts?

[violet venture]

this option right here

[violet venture]

Oh, but in reality...

[neon orchid]

Not even close

[earnest eagle]

Right where?!

[violet venture]

?

You're using the old Trance, are you

[round ore]

i think mods messed with my balatro

chaos the clown and verdant leaf dont work anymoroe

how would i go about fixing this

[earnest eagle]

Top result on Kagi

[violet venture]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Trance

click the green button then Download as Zip

[earnest eagle]

Ah, just fucked up the download

[modest nimbus]

Oh noes

Ggs chat the run is cooked

[shell sundial]

Why settle for one joker when you can have the whole deck?

[neon orchid]

Cause they set a deck limit

[modest nimbus]

Red seal polychrome glass goes absolutely stupid

[earnest eagle]

SHIT THE FUCK YEAH, NUKED THE FINAL BOSS!

Now to get thru the rest of Cryptid's antes... Wish me luck

[modest nimbus]

Look at MY cryptid run😈

[modern halo]

i cant get past ante 60

the game crashes if i even do anything

[shell sundial]

Man's got a couple of tags. "I can use this later."

[modest nimbus]

Why is ur canvas all the way on the right

[modern halo]

it just got cloned

[modest nimbus]

Ohh

[modern halo]

i got 100 jokers from finishing a blind

[modest nimbus]

Bri the anaglyph deck is absolute bonkers

[modest nimbus]

Still waiting for this hand btw

[modest nimbus]

Or wait not the anaglyph

What is it called

I forgot

[modern halo]

wormhole

?

[modest nimbus]

Its the deck that gives every upside of every other deck

[modern halo]

oh thats uhh

i think the antimatter one

[modest nimbus]

Antimayyer

Yeah

Bro i hate waiting

[violet venture]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-anime-cowboy-bebop-gif-15630140

[earnest eagle]

@shell sundial That emoji was the average experience of my score, mostly due to the cheat mod I got from NexusMods that lets me preorder cards

[modest nimbus]

2 thousand seconds of waiting for hands

Help me

[earnest eagle]

Wish Balatro used the GPU for calculation...

[modest nimbus]

Lmao fr

Oh wait i got integrated gpu anyways😭

[earnest eagle]

Same, but mine's an AMD APU

[hard plank]

💀

[modest nimbus]

Bro i got a dang phone cpu in my laptop

Help

Yall wanna raise money for me to get a new pc

😊

[earnest eagle]

No`

[modest nimbus]

Bro the calculation takes so looongggg

[earnest eagle]

...wonder how long it'd take on one of these?

[modest nimbus]

Fr

Bro im only doing like a few thousand calculations a second😭😭😭😭😭😭

[earnest eagle]

@violet venture Peep DMs <3

[wraith seal]

https://streamable.com/zljkfx

is this balanced :3

[earnest eagle]

@hard plank Help trance is breaking my game

[hard plank]

send mod list

[strong shadow]

Totally fair and balanced

[wraith seal]

truly

[strong shadow]

Mhm

Wait how the fuck am I going to do the sweepers

[hard plank]

bro did not read

[wraith seal]

❤️

we just dont know

[hard plank]

the Trance folder must be exactly Trance

[strong shadow]

Persistence is going to be like Mr death

[wraith seal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25399804

[modest nimbus]

Remove -main from the name prrobably

[strong shadow]

Instead it’s gonna be 1/2 chance at first and it keeps going up

Yes

I think,

Idk

[hard plank]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-cat-portal-up-gif-23999365

[wraith seal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935989994735169546/1116892586699931738/14A4E5A4-B3BB-4E86-ACE9-6B8F136FD659.gif

:3

thanks

[strong shadow]

Why steal cats

Why not just sell them fr

[earnest eagle]

Pussyloop

[strong shadow]

True

[wraith seal]

i think we should stop this conversation.

[hard plank]

aspect_rationot again....

aspectraio

dr ratio

[strong shadow]

Anyways I’m free all day

Time to work on my mod

Yayyyyy

[wraith seal]

dr ratio....

[strong shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/library-of-ruina-project-moon-lobotomy-corporation-gif-2659007420485384138

[hard plank]

i am not that paeak

peak

[strong shadow]

Peak

[hard plank]

longer_valueoh my god finally

[wraith seal]

you are indeed that peak

peakyori

peakyuri

[wraith seal]

wait, that uhh redstone (idk the name) joker's art was actually drawn??

[hard plank]

yea

[wraith seal]

i thought it was a ss but went through some filters or smt 😭

[wraith seal]

thats impressive, damn

[strong shadow]

Dang

Absolute peak

[wraith seal]

i strive to be as peak as Myst, N' and aikoyori...

[strong shadow]

I’m just going to edit the jokers with pngs

It’s going to look scuffed as fuck

[wraith seal]

(i dont dare to reach the level of 🧙 yet, and basically everyone who worked on smods and lovely)

[wraith seal]

why is there a singular green pixel

[hard plank]

because i forgot to fill that in

[wraith seal]

:3

ky

[strong shadow]

Perfect cell

[wraith seal]

i was refrained from completing the word.

[strong shadow]

Keep yourself safe

[wraith seal]

and i sincerely apologise to aikoyori for almost saying such a vulgar thing.

[strong shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254571495167098941/1313681768574091275/copy_84877E2E-E21A-463A-AA2D-A728D047E8FE.gif

[hard plank]

@cerulean locust yo you wanna have artist pfp credit in my mod?

[strong shadow]

Should I make the lor mods jokers too or nah

[wraith seal]

yes

[strong shadow]

Actually probably not💀

500 hogs

[wraith seal]

add all of them in, alongside some creative and fun mechanics

:3

[strong shadow]

I’m still on the rats bruh😭

[wraith seal]

you can do it

[strong shadow]

Imma just make them gain like 25 chips and 2 mult per discarded card

Gotta harvest

These organs

[strong shadow]

Thank you for the encouragement 👍

Gl on your mod

[wraith seal]

thanks :D

[formal orchid]

hello chat

[wraith seal]

hi revo

[hard plank]

i will properly credit artists

sorry

[modest nimbus]

BRO I BEEN WAITING OVER AN HOUR

[mystic crypt]

what mod is this

[hard plank]

MY OWN

[mystic crypt]

cool

[formal orchid]

what rarity should this be?

[potent lance]

mucho texto

is there a way to simplify it?

but id say uncommon or rare probably

though it just seems a little like a more complex DNA

[formal orchid]

im so bad at explaining

what the jokers do

its currently rare

[hard plank]

i need more joker synergies

[modest nimbus]

aiko is ur mod out already or r u working on it

[hard plank]

you can play the dev version right now

https://github.com/Aikoyori/Balatro-Aikoyoris-Shenanigans

[modest nimbus]

What kind of mod is it tho like is it unbalanced like cryptod

[formal orchid]

gotta reach 120 jokers till monday 🙏

[strong shadow]

It’s balanced and fun fr!

[modest nimbus]

Goals

[strong shadow]

Or something along those lines

[modest nimbus]

👹

[formal orchid]

i suck at art

[potent lance]

make a joker that crashes the game

ez

[formal orchid]

isnt that a consumable in cryptid 😭

[potent lance]

ok but im a hipster who doesnt like cryptid so its fine when i do it but bad when they do it

[potent lance]

huh

[formal orchid]

crazy evil

[potent lance]

whyd you reply to me i dont know what this means

[hard plank]

oops

sorry

[potent lance]

oh did you not mean to

sorry

[hard plank]

i was gonna say what if i do it

idk

are these blinds just

not powerful enough

[formal orchid]

time for a crash joker

ig

[potent lance]

joker that gives you a trojan virus BUT it also gives x3 mult

so its like

kinda worth

[full edge]

password joker. Has a 4 digit password, and if you play a hand containing the proper 4 digit code, it self-destructs and gives you a big payout 😄

[formal orchid]

wait thats

[potent lance]

safe joker yeah thats peak

[wraith seal]

Copies the rank of the first scored card, or suit if it has already been copied

maybe that?

[potent lance]

maybe itll give hints by proccing when you get one right

[formal orchid]

i gotta try that

[potent lance]

and if you get 4 procs in a hand then you get the effect

[full edge]

I was gonna use that concept for a Blank Check joker, but I'm just making that give you infinite money and then kicking you out. The Zodiac joker I've got half-working is similar to that, but instead it gives Xmult if solved, and creates a new 'puzzle' after the boss blind

[formal orchid]

short and clean

thanks 👍

[full edge]

oooh wait, I should have it debuff the boss blind if you solve the code

[wraith seal]

what if there was a joker which allows you to reroll without costing money

but it saves the amount of money you spent on rerolling, and will reduce your money by that number in like, the next ante

[formal orchid]

or if sold

[full edge]

Ooh, I have two jokers that are almost that

[devout hemlock]

hi im attempting to mod balatro with lovely and every time it crashes the error reads:
lovely-injecto has crashed:
panicked at crates/lovely-core/src/patch/copy.rs36: 17:
Failed to read source file at
"C:\Users\kshad\AppData\Roaming\Balatro\Mods\core/core.lua"
for copy fatch from lovely\lovely.toml: Os { code: 3, kind: NotFound,
Message: "The system can not find the path specified."}

[wraith seal]

whats "core"

[lethal reef]

Those slashes are mixed what

[wraith seal]

can you show me your Mods folder?

[devout hemlock]

can i dm it to you?

[wraith seal]

its fine to just post it here lol

[full edge]

One makes it so spending money doesn't cost money, but decreases the sell value (so if you find a way to destroy it, you can 'heist' the items without actually paying). The other makes rerolls free but instead has an increasing chance to destroy all your other jokers. They're a very fun synergy

[wraith seal]

the first one would actually go pretty well with giftcard or something

[wraith seal]

...i dont think you are supposed to have version.dll in there

[lethal reef]

That ain't where version.dll goes pretty sure

[full edge]

version.dll shouldn't be in your mods folder, but in the balatro game data

[devout hemlock]

oh ok ty

[full edge]

the first one's kinda like a gift card, honestly. It has the same cap, so you can heist $20 and go $20 in debt, I guess

[potent lance]

rare joker that gives x8.01 mult if theres a king and a jack played

its called the Fujokie

(like fujoshi)

@formal orchid wdyt

[formal orchid]

sure

[potent lance]

8.01 cuz this and king and jack cuz king is the uke and jack is the seme

[hard plank]

chat

legit

[potent lance]

wait is this

balatrodle or something

howdid you do this

[hard plank]

balatrodle

[hard plank]

tons of code

[potent lance]

jesus

[wraith seal]

my ass would play "rah" 😭

-# eye of rah :3

[formal orchid]

make it so it matches that days wordle

[shell sundial]

This is a really cool idea however I could see the constant discards getting annoying while trying to form words. Not sure what you could do to reduce that aside from having smaller words.

[formal orchid]

i've done the safe thing

it was easier than i thought

[hard plank]

5 words is the wordle tradition

i would like to keep it that way

[shell sundial]

Not familiar with wordle.

[hard plank]

5 lettersd

https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html

this thing

[wraith seal]

FIVE WORDS

[signal wave]

I love how it's a 5-letter word...
But the name has six.

[hard plank]

I ALREADY CORRECTED MYSELF WHAT'S THIS TIME

[signal wave]

Like bro just name it WORDL or WRDLE

[wraith seal]

nah imagine having to complete a sentence instead 😭

crazy work

[potent lance]

what about a joker that automatically sorts your other jokers

[formal orchid]

how would one do that

[potent lance]

idk how to use code to move jokers around but i know the order it should be

[wraith seal]

i think you can do that

but uhhhhh

[hard plank]

i wil

uh

make

tier 2 boss blinds

[wraith seal]

my solution probably wont have any animations to it 😭

[hard plank]

that appears at ante 16

[wraith seal]

the fuck you mean tier 2.

😭

[signal wave]

Just look at Amber Acorn 4Head

[formal orchid]

i would prbablly destroy the jokers and make them re-appear in order 😭

[signal wave]

😂

[formal orchid]

oh well

[potent lance]

wait but what about scaling jokers

wont that reset them?

[formal orchid]

mine is the worst way of doing it

checking acorn is probably better

[potent lance]

yea lol

[formal orchid]

i forgot it exists

[minor hedge]

Guys its not stopping

[wraith seal]

ohhhh right

[potent lance]

but yeah when you activate a blind, itll sort your cards with this order
order of activation (beginning of round, played cards, hand, jokers, end of round, shop, other) > Chips, +Mult, xMult, Money > Higher number. Oh and itll always put itself last

[formal orchid]

yeah thats what i thought as well

but i dont know how to check the ability of a joker

[potent lance]

but itll only do it when you activate a blind because if you wanna say change your order for like the shop or something it wont stop you

[wraith seal]

i think you can just sort them by rarities, thats much easier

[formal orchid]

i dont think that'd be that efficent

[potent lance]

but that might put a xmult before a +mult

[wraith seal]

since some jokers may have uhh very different names for their var to return in joker_main

[potent lance]

and how do we sort within rarities

[potent lance]

oh wait thats it

[wraith seal]

so, for example

my joker uses return {mult = card.ability.extra.mult} which is simple enough, but others may use return {mult = card.ability.extra.extraMult}

[potent lance]

you just

create an array with every single joker label in it sorted optimally

[formal orchid]

even in my own mod my xmult vars are different

[potent lance]

and then you just check each joker if its the joker youre looking for and move down the list

[wraith seal]

exactly

[formal orchid]

i sometimes get lazy and set it to be "mult" instead of "xmult" or sum

[wraith seal]

...i hope I'm misunderstanding it, but you aren't suggesting typing in every joker in existence right 😭

[potent lance]

i mean

[formal orchid]

i did that once

[potent lance]

theres only a hundred and fifty

[formal orchid]

for vanilla

vanilla.

[potent lance]

thats not much

[wraith seal]

vanilla

yes, emphasize that

you have to consider jokers from other mods too 😭

[formal orchid]

^

[potent lance]

other mods dont exist

[formal orchid]

damn

[wraith seal]

damn

[potent lance]

lol

[wraith seal]

guess i dont exist

[formal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pppoof-gif-18346599

[wraith seal]

but uh seriously, the best way to go with this is probably just sorting by rarities

[potent lance]

yeah i guess because theres no unified code system with joker abilities theres no real way to sort jokers

[formal orchid]

i mean it could but ceremonial dagger

[wraith seal]

Common, Uncommon, Rare, Legendary

[formal orchid]

next to something important

[wraith seal]

its over the moment ceremonial dagger is dragged into an auto-sorting joker mechanic 😭

[potent lance]

oh my god yeah lol

[formal orchid]

i mean eveyone could change their vars

[wraith seal]

you can also argue that blueprint and brainstorm would be pretty bad too, actually

especially brainstorm in this case

since it would probably be copying a bad common joker

[formal orchid]

i have a rare joker which can destroy the left-most joker

[wraith seal]

but again, its the best universal way to go with this "auto-sorting" thing

...or just sort them by the first letter of their name

alphabetically

[potent lance]

well but itd only activate when you start the round so you could just then move blueprint or whatever card you want to brainstorm

[formal orchid]

see

the thing is

if you are not on vanilla

[potent lance]

but its just not the most efficient so like theres no point in the joker existing if its not sorting for the sake of making it best

[formal orchid]

sorting it manually would be pain

[potent lance]

so this joker idea is just kinda bunk

[wraith seal]

there's no way to sort jokers depending on how good they are

[potent lance]

yeah

[wraith seal]

unless its hard coded

[formal orchid]

also there are modded rarities

[potent lance]

so its just a scrap idea

[wraith seal]

mhm

[potent lance]

what about a joker that makes you play a minigame and gives scoring based on how good you do

[wraith seal]

could be fun with a joker that gets better if your jokers are all sorted alphabetically tho :3

[formal orchid]

ui involved

im out

[potent lance]

lol

[wraith seal]

i still remember a mod which adds literal donkey kong

that was sick

[formal orchid]

i hate coding ui

[wraith seal]

same

[formal orchid]

thats why i never do it

[hard plank]

i love UI

[wraith seal]

if JoyousSpring never existed, i wouldn't know what to do...

[formal orchid]

its so fcking complicated

[potent lance]

How about more negatives, like just in general

[hard plank]

hey

have u seen Noire

[potent lance]

Something that gives more negatives or wtv

[wraith seal]

have you seen aikoyori's Shenanigans

:3

[potent lance]

No I'm illiterate and 4 years old

[formal orchid]

i have a negative printer

[wraith seal]

perfect

#1326135270759993364

[formal orchid]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1325147180280971294 (shameful self-advertisement)

[potent lance]

Oh are we advertising

#1346880030629695498

[wraith seal]

im sometimes a bit surprised how well my thread seems to be doing

despite the mod not being released yet

[formal orchid]

my thread be dead

[wraith seal]

-# though i guess it does help that hsr is a popular ip

[formal orchid]

i get some crashes every now and then

[wraith seal]

but i hope my mod will be known for good mechanics and gameplay, not that its a gacha game mod 😭

[potent lance]

What about a gambling Joker

[normal hollow]

me too, why is this still behind the cardarea i dont get it

[wraith seal]

my mod adds gacha

:3

[formal orchid]

im down with anything that involves gambling

[wraith seal]

OH YEAH, that

[formal orchid]

😭

[potent lance]

At the beginning of the round it takes some money then does a random effect for the round

Slot joker

[wraith seal]

though i had keybinds installed so thats pretty much not an issue lmfaooo

[formal orchid]

i remember

some crazy

slot machine joker

with animations

[wraith seal]

oh yeah, me too

[potent lance]

And then you set up a list of payouts and chances for each payout

[formal orchid]

it was peak

[shell sundial]

"Lets go gambling!"

[wraith seal]

if yall love gambling...

#1116389027675906108

ajajsnsns

I fucked up the plugging

i hate phones

#1338562637453066240

[potent lance]

what about a joker that just

occasionally says funny things

[formal orchid]

peak

im doing that

[wraith seal]

punchlines

[potent lance]

thats it. no effects.

[wraith seal]

:3

[formal orchid]

wait

fuck

im not doing that

[wraith seal]

or like, a Gaslighter joker (or #1326135270759993364)

[potent lance]

itll just randomly say something

[wraith seal]

thatttt

says some stuff that definitely is true

[formal orchid]

hm

[plush hound]

shameless plug

[formal orchid]

it would definitely be better

[potent lance]

moves like jimbo and uses the soundfont of jimbo when you die or win

[formal orchid]

if it had ui involved

[wraith seal]

i think you can just use the code for when jimbo talks

[potent lance]

yeah

[formal orchid]

oh yeah

more ideas

i love new ideas

[potent lance]

but you should probably change the localization files so its not just literally what jimbo says

[wraith seal]

add freaking jimbo

:3

jimbo himself

and he says jimbo stuff

[potent lance]

freaky joker

[wraith seal]

actually, i have this idea

what if two jokers that can talk are next to each other

and they start to have a conversation 😭

[potent lance]

thatd be so cute

what if you made a joker that doxxes you and you dont tell anyone that it does that so streamers end up playing the mod

im a fucking genius

[shell sundial]

It gives you a fat multi and then the card flips over with your IP address.

[formal orchid]

someone did that

i think

something close to it

it was the guy who made the tutorial video for making mods

[wraith seal]

yup

coincidentally the video in my copypasta lmfao

its at the end of his videos

[formal orchid]

i saw a full ass conversation as well

[potent lance]

monopoly joker: joker that eats other jokers and gives their effects

but itd only do like just the base scoring

[strong shadow]

Where’s this video fr!

[wraith seal]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Your-First-Mod
this should give you some instructions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp-4U5TlbxY&t=7s
the video is a bit oudated, but generally does well at telling you what to do
-# (note: there are some parts in the video where they called cards "center". don't do that, it's a bad practice, they are cards)
https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/master/Mods/EditionExamples/EditionExamples.lua
its a good practice to check out the example mods, as well as other mods too for reference
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions
on top of that, remember to read the documentation

[potent lance]

so itd like scale with +chips, +mult, and xmult with however much they gave when they were eaten

[wraith seal]

its the yt video

[wraith seal]

again, custom var names...

[strong shadow]

Really?

[potent lance]

fuck

god damn it

[wraith seal]

mhm

[potent lance]

thats stupid variables should be the same

[shell sundial]

Monopoly joker 2: When you draw the joker it boots up a monopoly game where if you beat the AI you just win the balatro game.

[potent lance]

involves UI hes not doing it

[wraith seal]

why would you play balatro if that exists 😭

[formal orchid]

one of my vars is literally stg1b

[wraith seal]

like damn, just hop on monopoly at that point

[potent lance]

because if you play balatro then you could play manopoly

[formal orchid]

and it gives +30 chips

[wraith seal]

i still love how i implemented functions which handle joker_main automatically :3

[formal orchid]

~~ wait my color ~~

s

[wraith seal]

so if i were to set card.ability.extra.xChips to 2.5, that joker will also give x2.5 chips

[potent lance]

wait so its everytime a blind is selected the code changes

[formal orchid]

ye

[potent lance]

thats like really rare to get then

[wraith seal]

i feel like it should be an ante instead

[formal orchid]

hm

[potent lance]

i feel like it should just be one code forever

[round ore]

once again requesting assistance on this

[wraith seal]

its "match" btw

[formal orchid]

fuck

[strong shadow]

The heck happens??

[wraith seal]

what mods do you currently have

[formal orchid]

i probably should add something to show if its unlocked or not

[wraith seal]

different sprite would work

or just a small text under everything

[round ore]

i have cryptid, talisman, pvp, and i think cosmos but the only one enabled is pvp

[strong shadow]

Huh

Weird

[round ore]

oh and ankh

[wraith seal]

that says [Locked] or [Unlocked]

[strong shadow]

What’s happening?

[round ore]

yea i just buy chaos and he doesnt give me a free reroll

[formal orchid]

i still dont know how to localize vars

[round ore]

and verdant leaf just doesnt disable cards

[strong shadow]

Weird

[round ore]

its strange

[wraith seal]

for this one, i actually just have a var with string lol

[#1#]

then the var can just be "Unlocked" or "Locked"

and it should work

[formal orchid]

no i did that

no support for different languages

** **

[wraith seal]

❤️

link an english guide

[formal orchid]

and i have like 3 jokers which uses the same thing

i think

[karmic compass]

is there like

feedback

like do you get mastermind response

or is it just number go br

[potent lance]

yeah like is there an activation notice when a card is scored to tell you its there

[formal orchid]

i can return a message

and the code will change every new ante

[karmic compass]

yeah but what message do we get

[formal orchid]

"Unloced" when unlocked

[karmic compass]

like do we get "2 Digits Correct"

[formal orchid]

nothing else

[karmic compass]

or like "3 Black, 1 White"

[formal orchid]

i mean

i could do that too

[karmic compass]

or even "Higher" / "Lower"

cuz otherwise it's literally 8^4 chance this activates

[potent lance]

i think it should just

[coarse saffron]

how can i look at the code of the base game?

[formal orchid]

i can go "1 corret" "2 correct"

[potent lance]

when a card is scored, it checks the first digit. if its correct, it makes a little notification and check the next thing

[karmic compass]

open the executable as a zip archive

[potent lance]

that way you can only figure out the second number after the first number

[formal orchid]

hm

[karmic compass]

that would work

it would give workable info

[potent lance]

so its like

[karmic compass]

but still, not enough infor for $15

[potent lance]

personally, i think it should give more and also not change per ante

and when you unlock it the joker is consumed

[karmic compass]

cuz like, that's still pretty hard to get

assuming completely mathematically average luck

you'd test each digit 4 times out of the possible 8 before hitting the correct one

so that's still 16 hands, which in most situation, is more than an ante has, meaning you have to get quite lucky

[potent lance]

it could give 25 dollars thats the same as the investment tag

[formal orchid]

i was going to do it like

+30 first

[full edge]

Does it account for deck manipulation?

[potent lance]

i personally think it should just not change and then be consumed on first payout thats how i think itd be best

ooooh thats a good point

what if you physically cant get a card

[karmic compass]

that is an interesting angle

but also

[formal orchid]

i could add a check

[full edge]

jokers that ask for specifics are generally balanced by the fact that you can alter your deck, after all

[formal orchid]

but think of ancient joker

[karmic compass]

how would this work if you're running primary face/ace build

[potent lance]

ok but counterpoint

[full edge]

ancient joker tells you when it won't work

[potent lance]

suits are easier to get than numbers

[full edge]

in this case you could own the Safe joker and never have a scenario in which you can open it

[potent lance]

mail in rebate makes the check

[full edge]

and you wouldn't have to even find out

[karmic compass]

that's a great change tbh

[formal orchid]

i can do both.

[karmic compass]

instead of 4 number ranks, a 4 suit code is definitely reliably crackable within 1 ante

[formal orchid]

1- it will notify you if it cant open

2- it will set the password acording to your deck

but then, the current number pool doesnt include 10-J-Q-K-A

[karmic compass]

which then would make the low reward more reasonable

plus, going for safe then would counter a decent chunk of suit based builds, and especially flushes

so i think that's a good balance

[formal orchid]

i mean it already tells that it will pick a random number between 2 and 9, both included

[twin forge]

can you add retriggers in context retrigger? cause i wanna add a joker that has a chance to retrigger multiple times but each time the odds get smaller and smaller

[karmic compass]

again, my main concerns is primarily that an 8^4 search space is WAY too big if the code reset each ante

and especially impossible if reset at round end

[formal orchid]

you should ask in #💻・modding-dev , you would get more and better responses

[karmic compass]

it's essentially the same odds as cavendish dying

[potent lance]

yeah

[formal orchid]

i mean it will notify you when you get some numbers correct

[potent lance]

well yeah but if you have only so many chances then itll never happen

its best if the chances are unlimited

aka, it doesnt reset each ante

[karmic compass]

again, 2-9 means 8 possible value for each position

[potent lance]

and then its consumed when you first unlock it

[karmic compass]

assuming mathematically perfectly average luck, you'd find the correct digit after 4 checks for each position

that is 16 hands to guarantee a solved code at mathematically perfectly average luck

[formal orchid]

i dont see it being a problem in early game

[karmic compass]

and like, 99% of balatro you are not playing 16 hands in any ante

most of the time you don't even have 16 hands in an ante

if you start with 4 hands you only have 12 hands across all 3 blinds

[formal orchid]

but if it doesnt reset, knowing what numbers are correct would be really good since +15 cash is not that low

[potent lance]

well yeah but its just a one time +15

[formal orchid]

no

[karmic compass]

you can have it generate a new code only when it's solved

[formal orchid]

it doesnt dissapear

[karmic compass]

that;d balance the cash but also give you unlimited guesses

[potent lance]

it should be consumed after its first unlock imo

why does the safe have infinite money

[formal orchid]

it could go lower and lower

[full edge]

I'd just keep it as is, play with it a bit, and see what's the most fun

[formal orchid]

like 15 to 14 to 13

[full edge]

As someone making a mod that's mostly about flavour, you don't wanna go too hard on getting the flavour right if it makes the effect less interesting or fun. Not that it would, but there's no harm in trying your current version for a bit, I'd say

[potent lance]

i guess

but like i personally think that like

[karmic compass]

im not saying the idea isnt fun

i love mastermind jokers

[potent lance]

this isnt a joker you wanna keep around for a long time so theres no reason in making a way for it to be continuously used

[formal orchid]

well ig i gotta experiment arround a bit

[full edge]

haha, all I'm saying is there's no reason for the first version of a joker to be the final one. You gotta play with it a bit, see what works and what doesn't

[formal orchid]

if i get any feedback on the gameplay of it, i will change it accordingly

[karmic compass]

im just bringing up a point that, in this current exact wordins and implementation, you're not gonna be cracking the safe much at all

which, could be the intention

[formal orchid]

i mean i have this, and it didnt have (Must have room) until the latest release

[potent lance]

wait thats

so fucking op what

[frail adder]

There are so many mods....

[potent lance]

its just on demand blueprints??

[karmic compass]

there's nothing wrong with a joker whose trigger is really rare and also very situational

[formal orchid]

if you have room

[karmic compass]

cough hit the road

[full edge]

finally, an Abstract joker enabler 😛

[potent lance]

ok but counterpoint: hit the road kinda sucks

[formal orchid]

now we have this

[full edge]

just only play mine, that solves choice paralysis 😛

[formal orchid]

okay everything aside

i need some kind of sprite

[karmic compass]

what are you thinking

i can provide draft

[formal orchid]

i mean i SUCK

at

art

like

[karmic compass]

describe

[formal orchid]

uh

[karmic compass]

like you're sending a dm for a fursona refsheet

[formal orchid]

a safe.

[full edge]

also, not to go back to feedback, but can I ask why you opted for safe and not vault?

[formal orchid]

nah im kidding

uh

lemme think

[karmic compass]

safe is small

[potent lance]

banker joker: gives you a loan of $100 when bought, then takes $10 every round until you pay back the loan

[formal orchid]

someone said safe

[potent lance]

then its consumed

[full edge]

haha i'm mainly joking

[full edge]

you'd have to make this unsellable to make it a realistic downside

[potent lance]

no no

the sell amount is negative the amount you owe

[formal orchid]

i mean the sprite of it could be a basic safe with yellow bg or sum ig

[potent lance]

that way selling it just pays back the loan entirely

[full edge]

Ah, i do love the option to heist with a destroy effect

[karmic compass]

okay gimme a sec

[potent lance]

EXACTLY

[formal orchid]

peak

[potent lance]

im a fuckin genius

[formal orchid]

im adding it

rn

[potent lance]

be sure to do the sell amount thing

[formal orchid]

aight

aight ok

[potent lance]

imagine getting it shop 1 on ghost deck

[full edge]

Hahaha

[potent lance]

you could take the 50/50 on the second joker to keep like 90 dollars

[formal orchid]

i will make it so

it costs -100

[potent lance]

no no the price has to update so that its the amount you owe

[formal orchid]

sell value

[potent lance]

so like say you owe 30 dollars left, the sell should be -30

[formal orchid]

would be that

[patent arch]

surprised there isnt a joker in the base game thats just

[formal orchid]

no?

[potent lance]

oh thats cool

[formal orchid]

buying it costs -100, selling it will be the ammount you owe

[potent lance]

exactly

[formal orchid]

ye thats what i said 😭

[potent lance]

wait no

[full edge]

It's a synergy I really like, honestly. I have multiple jokers that benefit from being destroyed in similar ways. And there's a reason I called it a Heist, because my equivalent's literally that 😛

[formal orchid]

so it gives 100 whne you first buy

[potent lance]

no buying it cant be -100 cuz what if you find it in a pack

it should cost like

1 dollar

[formal orchid]

oh true

dang

[potent lance]

and then just give 100 when you obtain it

[formal orchid]

sure

[potent lance]

actually should it be -5 instead of -10

[formal orchid]

we'll see

[full edge]

that's one of those balancing things you're just going to have to play around to find out. The main thing is that getting 100 is a good way to generate more economy. If you're lucky with vouchers, you don't notice the downside much at all. Or if you're lucky with hermits

[mortal tangle]

yeah ante one putting hermit online is pretty nice ngl

[mortal tangle]

oh thats a good question. lets say you have two jokers. one has a sell value of -5 and another of like +3. if using a temperence i assume that it just gives 0?

[karmic compass]

something like this?

[formal orchid]

yeah thats about it

just gotta fill the background though

[karmic compass]

yeah

hold on

[formal orchid]

what if i jsut make it eternal

or remove the sell button entirely

[full edge]

Unless you have a lot of destroy effects in your mod, it's fine to just not make it eternal

Disabling the sell function isn't too difficult

I have some jokers who do the same things, to force you to find an other out for their downside

[formal orchid]

i mean ceremonial dagger would

just be free cash

[full edge]

Yeah, but how good is ceremonial Dagger? How often do they spawn together in a run?

If you find it, lucky, but you're not gonna reroll into it with just $100

[formal orchid]

i mean its uncommon and 1 is enough

and if we think of other mods which adds jokers which destroys other jokers

they will most likely check for eternal

[potent lance]

I feel like there should be a way to just pay back the loan entirely

[formal orchid]

and after removing -100 it can just

self destruck

[full edge]

I have a joker that you can't sell, which loses you the game after playing 7 hands (it gives almost X5 mult so it's also pretty strong). I have a good amount of jokers that destroy other jokers, and still The Ring is a big risk to take unless you're playing towards it. I reckon it'd be fine

[potent lance]

Plus there should be a way to scam it if you set up properly

Finally a reason to use dagger

[formal orchid]

i have a joker whcih does destroy eternals

which can

[full edge]

My Ocean's 11 Joker that loses sell value also benefits from the same synergy, and it's not that easy to run into a destroy effect

[potent lance]

I just think it's best if it's not eternal

[bold mural]

what if you just get the loan and then sell the joker?

[full edge]

I'd just play with it as not eternal and see if it works, and change it up if it turns out to be too strong

[formal orchid]

it would be - sell value

[potent lance]

Then it does nothing

[formal orchid]

i will remove the sell button

entirely

then

[full edge]

Finding a work around to a downside is part of the fun of these kind of deck builders after all

[potent lance]

Why is this in the air

Are you having trouble subtracting the sell value or something

[formal orchid]

yes.

[bold mural]

make it be eternal

[potent lance]

Gift card adds to the sell, cant you use gift cards code and just make it negative

Or better yet, egg's code

[karmic compass]

does this work

or is it too busy

[formal orchid]

i have a joker similar to egg

[full edge]

My favorite build in my own mod currently is using jokers and planets that permanently Debuff your cards, and then synergizing with the jokers that benefit from that. Downsides and work arounds make for interesting play styles

[formal orchid]

i tried to use it

[formal orchid]

peak

[potent lance]

I feel like it'd be harder to remove the sell button than to just set the sell to negative and use egg's code

[karmic compass]

ok cool

[formal orchid]

if you could send it to me in 71x95 i can add it and give credit

[full edge]

Disabling the sell button isn't too hard. Removing it might be a bit harder, though, but it's doable too

[karmic compass]

you could also find a more skilled artist to refine it

[full edge]

Negative value isn't too difficult either

[full edge]

I could give it a pass over, try and add some shading and depth?

[formal orchid]

i have a system which removes the sell button and then re-enables it (thanks to BepisFever)

[karmic compass]

wait no yeah that's heat in 1x res

[potent lance]

Ok revo lemme like

Lemme take a crack at it

Cuz I really like the idea of it being a loan

[formal orchid]

i will experiment arround with negative values

[formal orchid]

would appreciate it

[potent lance]

Wait hold on I just thought of a really cool side effect of the loan

There's no payback if it's perishable

It'll stay at the same sell price tho so it's not like a money printer

[karmic compass]

what if paying back the loan really early give you a good credit score

[formal orchid]

money printer

[karmic compass]

and allows Credit Card to go lower

wtf

[formal orchid]

dont question

printers are unbalanced

[formal orchid]

it would just make things way more complicated than it is

[karmic compass]

you should make a card that reference Printer's Devilry

[formal orchid]

i would need to change the base code of credit card by taking ownership

speaking of the devil

[potent lance]

That's a lot

[formal orchid]

it is

ok so uh

what are we going with

[karmic compass]

Money Printer but it's the Victor Lustig kind

takes 3 blinds to print out the first $50, and then it just keep printing blank papers

/j /ref

[potent lance]

I say let's try to get the plans to work

Im gonna undertake the task cuz I really like banker joker

[formal orchid]

so which option is it

im lost

[jaunty thunder]

is there any way to make calculations faster

some sort of optimization mod

[potent lance]

The -100 sell that goes up by 5 each round

[radiant cairn]

Do not mock my art, I had no other ideas

[formal orchid]

aight then