⚙・modding-general

[signal wave]

Huh. Interesting.

[wary nacelle]

they all have the same "pixels"

but the games squishes the jokers

this is what i got

tbh im just copying from the game files and seeing what sticks

[junior rock]

#💻・modding-dev

[wary nacelle]

oops wrong

channel

[cinder wing]

what’s the best mod

that’s balance

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[twin forge]

real quick question: how do i get my balatro to be in debug mode?

[vestal valve]

https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/DebugPlus

[clear panther]

Does anyone know if there will be mods for balatro on mobile?

[low barn]

So how do you mod Balatro?

[shrewd briar]

May I ask why?

[pine sorrel]

if anybody knows, can you mod balatro on xbox game pass pc? (not sure if this falls under rule 4 or not)

[craggy valve]

Does the gamepass version install? If so, I'd assume it's the same way as Steam

Also, anyone have any guess what the hell is causing this? Hollow Joker is giving me +10 Mult on every click

[pine sorrel]

ty both!

[pure flint]

i ought to bring this out here since apparently #💻・modding-dev is no place to ask.... can someone help me parse a crash report?

i literally. can't decipher this

[craggy valve]

First suggestion, is it crashing on boot? Like while the game is loading up?

[pure flint]

yeah, it crashes while the mods are loading

i've been taking out mods to see if that saves anything

[craggy valve]

Start removing 1 mod at a time to figure out which one is breaking it

That's how I found out the old version of Codex Arcanum just doesn't work on modern stuff, but it was crashing under a totally different mod name.

[cosmic rapids]

@dusky heart we should definitely talk here haha, but thats sad with the seed 😭

[pure flint]

so it turns out it was fucking .... ortalab??? even though it was disabled???

i am at a loss for words

oh great. all of my stakes were reset

[cosmic rapids]

I remember when I had a good run, Spare Trousers, Doubled it, and supernova first round

[pure flint]

NO FUCKING WAYYY

IT RESET EVERYTHING

[dusky heart]

Found it. PK9CRTH1

[cosmic rapids]

and then I screwed up cause I didn't see the double 5 and thought it was a 6

[cosmic rapids]

Niceee

[pure flint]

oh you can. make a new save and cryptid will re-unlock everything for you. thank you cryptid

what a god damn rollercoaster

[dusky heart]

I didn't end up running the full exhaustive search of every single seed, but I did the maths on the probability and 10 Negative tags with 2 Copys is so far on the fringes of the bell curve that it's very likely the only one

[craggy valve]

so fun fact on this, apparently that joker is just cursed ig, used the cryptid commit code card to make a new one of it, and now this card +40 chips on every click now

[strong shadow]

Anybody got the lobotomy corp mod?

[final oak]

imagine downloading cryptid

[strong shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929183006776766536/1310280308779778078/ezgif-3-416435f79e.gif

[pure flint]

this is quite possibly the take ever

[final oak]

downloading mods that break the game, beyond just balance? couldn't be me

[craggy valve]

I mean, the newest update lets you pick how broken you want cryptid to be. I have it on the lowest setting because I like vanilla+ stuff.

It is still cryptid, but it's not as bad.

[final oak]

nah i mean it bugs the game out

[craggy valve]

Also, it's not Almanac, that one is straight up crazy. (in an interesting way)

[craggy valve]

eh, fair enough. barring the weird clicking issue, I haven't really had any issues

[final oak]

bunco, plantain, kcvanilla, unstable, paperback, cosmos, buffoonery literally make THE vanilla+ modlist imo

[cosmic rapids]

OOF-- whats your favorite card?

[craggy valve]

lmao, i'm only missing like 2 of those mods

[final oak]

i mean cosmos and extra credit are cool, i have those too, but they're probably the most broken mods i have

[vestal valve]

there's also Maximus by Astra

[cosmic rapids]

And honestly even if I can pull out a calculation, because of my ADHD i just need to have Divvy's real time score just make my life a lot easier

[normal hollow]

i really like the mod that makes your consumables into touhous that's the best one

[final oak]

never played with maximus

[vestal valve]

https://github.com/the-Astra/Maximus/releases

[final oak]

this looks busted

[dusky heart]

Fun question. I feel like it's gotta be Immolate, there's almost never a situation where $20 AND 5 fewer cards isn't a great thing. You?

[cosmic rapids]

Spare Trouser, gotta have a spare somewhere...

[cosmic rapids]

after experimenting I found out Malverk does not conflict with Steamodded so if you're interested in texture packs you can go ahead and try it!

these are just so well made

[craggy valve]

does that come with malverk?? Those are so pretty

[cosmic rapids]

It's a dependency, let me give you the forum!

Celestial Funk

Artstyle giving me the 70s vibe/Synthwave

[craggy valve]

especially with the packs. the actual planets are a little too busy for my blood but they are very pretty

[cosmic rapids]

yeah the colors are a bit but I think dimming down the brightness can help.

the jupiter and eris hurts my eyes a bit. Perhaps if the author lets me I can contrast it

[craggy valve]

high key I think the secret hands are borderline unreadable. but that also might be the point lmao (also pluto, but that ones unrelated)

[queen jolt]

Just gonna repost my issue here but im trying to have two separate texture mods but for some reason both will activate/deactivate at the same time. Don't got any coding knowledge so id like some help if thats cool 🥹 (pic is the code for the lua files, i used the same code template for both mods)

[normal hollow]

I think changing DecColors for a different name for each will solve that issue

but I think that's very outdated syntax

[odd dagger]

Finally whe have mod apk

[vestal valve]

(taps the sign)

[exotic belfry]

WAS GONNA SAY

oops caps

[vestal valve]

no I think its appropriate here

mr electric, send him to #events

[queen jolt]

I'll give it a shot, thanks regardless!!

[lavish cedar]

such a silly rule

[hard plank]

spare trousers when eat pant

[vestal valve]

new Joker idea

thoughts?

the main things I want second opinions on are:

1. is the "last hand of the round" restriction really necessary?
2. is x1.5 too little or too much?

[junior rock]

me when im being extra silly and want to break the rules

[vestal valve]

also I hope these polls aren't too annoying 😅

[hard plank]

is this not just kinda worse than acrobat

kinda

[vestal valve]

it works differently to Acrobat

Acrobat gives you x3 Mult for the hand you play then

Briefcase would multiply your entire score

[junior rock]

its only 1.5x though

bones is a one-time use 4x, this is a one-time use 1.5x

[vestal valve]

so it should be increased?

[junior rock]

significantly

probably up to mr bones' levels

4x would be fine

[hard plank]

i don't know about the restriction

[junior rock]

it also could just be "sell this joker to multiply your score by 4x"

[vestal valve]

I'll probably remove it because then it's more flexible than Mr Bones

[junior rock]

its more flexible, but you have to do it

its not an automatic safety net

[hard plank]

the final hand will always have the highest score the user have anyway so

[junior rock]

that works

[vestal valve]

Achievement: Empty Briefcase
Sell the Briefcase before playing a single hand

0 x 4 = 0

i also just realized that the way Briefcase works would have an impact on how the player uses their shops

because if there's a joker you really want, and briefcase is the only one you can safely get rid of, you miss out on getting to x4 your score because you're not currently in a round

[junior rock]

i think thats fine

you have to weight the benefit of the joker you want vs a safety net of score

[vestal valve]

this goes well with Thunk's philosophy of "getting rid of jokers should be a difficult decision"

[junior rock]

ya

[hard plank]

Amazing Strategy

I'm going to wait for eternal briefcase

[junior rock]

why not blueprint compatible

luchador is, cola is

[vestal valve]

oh really? i actually didn't know that

[junior rock]

luch and bones can also be perishable

[hard plank]

i think perishable compat is funny tho

like a briefcase with expire date

[vestal valve]

i'll also make sacrifice blueprint compatible then

that means it'd be possible for you to sell blueprint and then destroy Sacrifice

[junior rock]

this is just silly 😭

[dusky heart]

Does copied Diet Cola give multiple tags when it's sold?

[junior rock]

no, its just that you can sell blueprint to get a tag

[dusky heart]

Aha

That seems like a terrible decision in almost all cases, but still good to know

Useful for a temporary blueprint about to be debuffed though

[junior rock]

OH MY GOD 😭

this fucking deck

[haughty gyro]

so if you play the 6th card then it doesn't score for The Psychic?

diabolical

this is just as funny as reaching this blind with a hand size less than 5

[junior rock]

i really like the horoscopes

i swear this seems to just be +1 cards in packs, not "taking 1 more"

[signal wave]

Honest question, why doesn't Hologram upgrade from Marble Joker?

[junior rock]

it does

or at least it does in vanilla

[signal wave]

oh I'm stupid I got rid of Marble that's why it's not working

I'm so dumb sometimes

[junior rock]

run is won

...? 😭

is this a typo that caused the crash

I used the joker that gives you mult when you lose a probability check

[exotic belfry]

Glad to hear that

[exotic belfry]

Also FUCK

[junior rock]

embarassing smh

[exotic belfry]

Actually I'm unsure if it is Pessimistic. What all was in your joker hand when it crashed?

oh nvm it was 😭

Looks like it only has to do with Lucky Cards so anything else should be fine

[junior rock]

unbeliavble

[exotic belfry]

Looks like you're right about this one too. Had to rewrite the code on it recently so I must've messed up what variable it went to

Ok I tried again myself and it doesn't seem broken?

[exotic belfry]

I specifically changed Psychic so it would do this lmfao

[haughty gyro]

we love to see it

[exotic belfry]

Very odd how in vanilla it checks for >= 5. Ig Thunk never expected it to go over lol

[quick lagoon]

how do i play with mods?

[haughty gyro]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods

[quick lagoon]

thank you

which balatro mods would you reccomend, content wise?

[haughty gyro]

a pinned comment about this would really be nice

[haughty gyro]

I'm gonna be real, idk what's out there I'm just here becaue I'm making my own

Cryptid is the really popular one though

[exotic belfry]

[vestal valve]

i'm making one to steal all of Astra's ideas to prove my superiority /j

[exotic belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897856237755064374/1300825464578773113/attachment.gif

[slim rose]

officially hit 15 jokers in our mod 👀

once we finish the art (and also fix any bugs that crop up while testing things) we'll do our first public release!!

[haughty gyro]

same with mine!

[exotic belfry]

A full page is a huge milestone

gratz

[vestal valve]

I'm currently at 24 Jokers, with 38 ideas total (14 yet to be implemented)

[exotic belfry]

Uh...

[vestal valve]

my current aim for Mistigris is to get to around 50 before release

more if I'm creative enough

[haughty gyro]

this is how I learned you can access this stuff from the mods page on the menu...

[exotic belfry]

That's how many Maximus had on release and it def caught people's attention because of it. That's a good goal to aim for a release

[exotic belfry]

LMAO

[haughty gyro]

2 of these blinds are currently nonfunctional, but there will be 12 total, two of which are finisher blinds

and possibly another page of Jokers

[exotic belfry]

ugh I need to make a config tab eventually

I hate UI coding

[vestal valve]

I'll more than likely end up adding more after release, but that's the baseline I want to go for

but I also don't want to overwhelm Gappie lol

[vestal valve]

mood

[exotic belfry]

Like I said, good baseline

[vestal valve]

the only bits of UI coding I have are

1. to insert credits for ideas, art and coding
   and
2. (with a lot of help from breezebuilder) to have a fancy background for the mod text that flashes between orange and purple

[haughty gyro]

I refuse to touch UI if I can avoid it at all

[exotic belfry]

I had to make a new Card Area

The horrors...

[vestal valve]

and i realize the credits probably aren't that necessary because:

• 75% of the code and ideas are my own
• i have only 1 artist for this mod

[haughty gyro]

I've recently discovered how finicky they are, because one of my blinds swaps the played and held cards...

This has been a solo project for me so far though

[hard plank]

the development of my mod resumes tomorrow

[haughty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/say-the-line-bart-school-millhouse-classroom-gif-26683141

[exotic belfry]

Maxis has been my main artist the whole way but there have been a few guest artists. I'm crediting them thru the wiki cuz I'd rather not figure out ingame credits stuff lmfao

[hard plank]

development resumes tomorrow

[vestal valve]

SCRIBBLENAUTS MENTION

[hard plank]

and yeah

oops i accidentally cropped the credit

[junior rock]

this is awesome

[hard plank]

wrong formatting i just realized

[haughty gyro]

cool font too

So you know how The Manacle permanently increases your hand size if you enter the blind with two copies of Chicot?

[hard plank]

is this basically better Constellation

[haughty gyro]

Well I created a blind where one of its effects increases your hand size so uhhh, doing that on this blind will permanently decrease it lmao

[hard plank]

💀

[haughty gyro]

just don't have two copies of Chicot lmao

[hard plank]

😭

[haughty gyro]

that seems a little bit strong

[hard plank]

maybe < 15

[haughty gyro]

I missed that it was legendary

[hard plank]

15 is an easy number so i think <= 15 works out

[haughty gyro]

but that joker also scales quadratically faster than Constellation

[hard plank]

what if

[haughty gyro]

also, what does "hand number totals more than 15" mean?

like, the sum of the ranks?

[hard plank]

3 + 8 + 5 + 7 + 2

yea

[haughty gyro]

ah ok

[haughty gyro]

it might be less ambiguous to phrase it this way

[hard plank]

yea could have phased it better

[haughty gyro]

it is a cool concept

[hard plank]

rebalanced?

[haughty gyro]

potentially

[hard plank]

i dont think i need to say

"no face cards"

kinda implied?

[haughty gyro]

do face cards count 10 towards this?

or do they just break the condition entirely

[hard plank]

they do not count

[haughty gyro]

so you can play as many of them as you want

[hard plank]

should it

yea

i think it should

[haughty gyro]

I think the default assumption is that face cards would normally count as 10? so it probably is important to include information on how it works with face cards

[hard plank]

ok

well

face cards do now

probably goes hard with wee

i meant hack lol

[haughty gyro]

other important distinction, is it the played hand, or the scored hand

like if you play 2, 2, 2, 9, 10

[hard plank]

played

[haughty gyro]

so if you play extra cards to burn as a discard, it'll break the condition

[hard plank]

if it exceeds 15 yeah

[haughty gyro]

interesting

[hard plank]

if it doesn't then you can play it

[haughty gyro]

that's literally enough to clear ante 8 on white stake

in a single hand

[junior rock]

its a legendary and an uncommon tbf

[haughty gyro]

also true lol

[junior rock]

considering you can do the same with trib in the base game its fine, balance wise

[hard plank]

my internet is slow today

what the hell happened

[junior rock]

its just the fact that it scales 😭

[haughty gyro]

That's something my mod is missing actually, I made no legendary jokers

[junior rock]

what mod is this btw

[hard plank]

the tsunagite?

[junior rock]

yes

[hard plank]

or anything else

that's my mod

[junior rock]

public?

[hard plank]

yea

[junior rock]

:3 yokay

[hard plank]

https://github.com/Aikoyori/Balatro-Aikoyoris-Shenanigans

ok

ill change from

using Planet cards

to SELLING planet cards

maybe

[junior rock]

what about like

[hard plank]

no scaling

[junior rock]

if it reset for the ante

so like campfire but for using planets

[hard plank]

could be fairer

yea

[haughty gyro]

that could be good

[junior rock]

yeah

[haughty gyro]

synergizes with blue seals too

[junior rock]

cause it seems fine balance wise, its just that its permanent scaling

but if its temporary scaling, it seems very balanced

[hard plank]

i guess i can do this

ill have to store 😭

the base value

[junior rock]

the code for campfire means that if u got it below 1x it would never reset

[hard plank]

misprint deck x campfire

[junior rock]

lol

[exotic belfry]

[junior rock]

WHY IS IT SO LONG 😭

[hard plank]

there we go

[junior rock]

have wanted to play with letter deck for a while as well

[haughty gyro]

I was gonna go to bed an hour ago...

it is 2am

[vestal valve]

boss

also fellow Jetbrains Mono user??? 👀

[junior rock]

WHAT

why did i get fucking 27 handsize and 8 consumables

[hard plank]

😭

[junior rock]

😭

[hard plank]

wtf happened

[exotic shadow]

Well your consumables are negative so they add to it

[junior rock]

i played an 8 letter word

i dont even know

[hard plank]

what a mouthful

[junior rock]

unbelievable

[exotic belfry]

ploom

[junior rock]

its okay my dyslexic ass used to spell plume like that

[hard plank]

mouthful

5th recording failed

[exotic belfry]

damb

[autumn glen]

Yapper

[hard plank]

as soon as the commit goes thru i will go outside

[junior rock]

also

[vestal valve]

commit resumes tomorrow

[junior rock]

is it intentional that this works for not just scored cards

[hard plank]

kinda

yea

ACTUALLY

i am wrong

it should only work on scored cards

[vestal valve]

do stone cards count as 50?

[hard plank]

it is a mystery

[lone galleon]

Not sure

[junior rock]

the benefit only activates on scored cards

but it counts the hand number total including unscored cards

[hard plank]

ok this is intended

[lone galleon]

if not SMODS.has_no_rank(v) then --Thanks for the help, SDM_0 and srockw! This is how I excluded stone cards from calculations with one of my own jokers that totalled up played hand cards. Stone cards were making a calculation go negative

[junior rock]

are u certain 😭

cause u werent before

[hard plank]

yes

unscored cards count towards to total

the benefits only applies to scored cards

[junior rock]

gotcha

[hard plank]

here's a little lesson in trickery

[junior rock]

also this is pretty strong

[vestal valve]

Square gaming

[junior rock]

its basically just -4 cards every time u play a 4 card hand

which is incredibly strong

they dont even need to be scoring to be destroyed

[hard plank]

maybe i should change that to two pair

because you know

eat pant

[junior rock]

if its "if hand contains two pair" then that'd be a lot harder to activate

[hard plank]

yeah

i think that sounds good

[junior rock]

also the destroying all played cards is uhhh

[hard plank]

it fits better as well

[junior rock]

very strong

because its not conditional to it scoring all 4 cards

[vestal valve]

if first hand of the round contains exactly 4 cards, destroy all of them and gain X0.4 mult for each card scored

[hard plank]

eat pant

[lone galleon]

eat pant

[vestal valve]

meat mant

[junior rock]

if first hand contains two pair

[hard plank]

I'm going to add Please do not the cat

[vestal valve]

(Jolly version)

[junior rock]

what about "I forgor" 😭

[hard plank]

X4 mult

1 in 2 chance drawn card is flipped

[junior rock]

what if like

[vestal valve]

I forgor
if you keep this Joker in your inventory for 5 rounds it gives you X4 mult

[junior rock]

make it have like

a really bad downside if u forgor about it

[hard plank]

me when my mod just has meme jokers now

[vestal valve]

| || || |_

[junior rock]

like, becomes eternal and -100 mult on the final boss

[hard plank]

i can justify it because i add literally whatever i wanna add

[junior rock]

this is why i love modding

[junior rock]

can i help with colouring some of the alphabet cards

[hard plank]

I'll make better alphabet cards later

these are placeholders

[junior rock]

i hope you dont mind me saying this but like

[sleek granite]

i also add whatever i want to add!!!! yippee

[hard plank]

it's gonna be a lot

[junior rock]

i like how rustic they look

[hard plank]

crusty ahh textures

[junior rock]

i might make a reskin of the alphabet cards to be meme(s)

[sleek granite]

i wonder if ill get to 150 jokers before the world ends in a few months here

[junior rock]

H for Hawk Tuah

[hard plank]

HAWK TUAH

[junior rock]

HAWK TUAH JOKER

[hard plank]

i planned another set of consumables

[vestal valve]

hawk tuah chip on that thang

[hard plank]

Caesar

shifts all alphabets in hand by 1 position

[junior rock]

i was gonna

[vestal valve]

Skibidi Joker
X3 Mult
self destructs if you play a Flush

[junior rock]

suggest that caesar worked like

if destroyed by any means, +0.5x and comes back with a random edition

dagger mult and xmult farming

[hard plank]

i wanted Caesar to work like Caesar cipher

[junior rock]

gotcha

caesar salad

caesar cypher

[hard plank]

I'll add word set feature soon

[vestal valve]

(in reply to this)

[junior rock]

transgender yes

[junior rock]

can i suggest stuff for balancing for the letter deck

first of all

but anyway

why do planets, suit and rank jokers, etc still spawn 😭

[hard plank]

in case you get normal playing cards™

[junior rock]

also, no two letter words :(

[hard plank]

a bit too weak and too easy to create imo

[junior rock]

time to use ItemRemover to make my own balance

[vestal valve]

imagine this but with misprint deck

[hard plank]

ok maybe i should only make alphabet and constellation cards spawn in this mode

[vestal valve]

"Solve 8.6 letter word puzzle to win!"

[hard plank]

4.3 hands

btw

normal cards in normal decks have letters too they are just hidden

[junior rock]

ya i saw that when i opened a standard pack

[hard plank]

whole new game mechanics istg

[junior rock]

no new vouchers is interesting

u have any voucher ideas for your mod?

[hard plank]

voucher that enables letters

and another one that gives mult for the letter

[vestal valve]

Give Up Voucher
Lose all hands. Lose all discards. Lose all Jokers. 0 hand size. Destroy entire deck

[hard plank]

Death by one giant cut

only appears after ante 8

to prevent runs from going on for too long

or maybe

[vestal valve]

if you have Pareidolia it summons The Plant and offers you the Give Up Voucher

[hard plank]

"Only starts appearing after calculation has ever taken at least a minute"

if redeemed, lose all hands and discard. destroys all jokers (eternal cannot prevent this), sets hand size to 0, destroys your entire deck of cards then run saved to hall of fame with the highest calculation time along with other info

The Beat
Any action not performed on the beat doesn't activate

new game mechanics

i just thought about

Playing cards in the shop can be Impostor card

it changes its suit and value every round

the best part is that you will not know that it's the impostor card

[lone galleon]

me when i buy the 7 of hearts and it's actually the 7 of

[exotic belfry]

Sussy

[hard plank]

there will be a boss blind for this

every mention of Imposter cards will be replaced with ???

these cards will sometimes trigger twice so you know something is up

[rapid quiver]

im liking the misprint deck in cryptid lmao

[hard plank]

do you think I'm cooking

[exotic belfry]

It could be funny as hell

[hard plank]

and there will be a voucher that allows you to see them

starting deck won't have one

[rapid quiver]

this has gotten me a slight ammount of money lmao

[vestal valve]

Little Brother Telling You In DMs After He Became A Ghost

[hard plank]

voucher will be free

ok maybe not

voucher will spawn alongside another one

[steep magnet]

images that go hard

[frail adder]

Need help, anyone know why? I just updated the steammoded to the latest one(?)

[junior rock]

<eof>

[frail adder]

What is that?

[vestal valve]

end of function

or end of file

[candid sable]

What mod do you have

[frail adder]

Ah yeah, probably incompatible mod, let me do 50:50 method. It was because Paperback need newer version of Steammoded, probably the old one is incompatible 😦

[candid sable]

You have Bunco?

[frail adder]

Anyway, your modpack is so big I'm so scared when I try it xD, you that modpack creator right?

[frail adder]

Yeah, is that the known culprit?

[candid sable]

Yeah

Both questions

[frail adder]

Yep, Bunco is the culprit, will keep checking Bunco then. Thanks!

[candid sable]

You can try Fine-tuned or experimental first

[frail adder]

I was thinking about it, it nice for you to give so many options. But sometimes I just love picking mods myself. Will check it back again later because I believe it's stable too.

[candid sable]

You're good 👌

[meager notch]

anyone have an invite to the multiplayer mod discord? I wanted to join but all the ones I can find online all say invite expired

[open dragon]

CHAT
Since cryptid gets you on a new savefile titled M1, does that mean that my previous vanilla save file is gone, or is it gonna be there when i uninstall cryptid?

[vestal valve]

It'll be there when you disable Cryptid

M1 save files are actually an effort to separate your Cryptid data from your vanilla data

[severe orchid]

sooo i did a thing with the multiplayer mod... 🫠

[warm juniper]

I'm trying to download Steamodded but the release page just says "unstable do not use". Are there other versions i can use or do i have to wait for a fix or smth to come out

[severe orchid]

releases are all old versions rn

[lean dune]

there's a bunch of really big links of that page

[severe orchid]

on the frontpage before releases, click the green code button > download zip

[lean dune]

you just need to click on one of them and it'll take you to the right place

which has all the install instructions

[vestal valve]

https://tenor.com/view/red-button-spam-press-button-click-gif-17367381

(Crash Opponent)

[severe orchid]

you can give someone hand level 0 too lol

[warm juniper]

okay thanks

[severe orchid]

give any joker

its wild

[vestal valve]

give them eternal obelisk

[lean dune]

[severe orchid]

thats evil lol

[vestal valve]

you cannot run...
you cannot hide...
you cannot escape...
-# (Must have room)

[lean dune]

-# does it?

[severe orchid]

[vestal valve]

Curse!

[hard plank]

mr John

[lean dune]

m

[hard plank]

i love trigonometry

[lean dune]

i love hyperbolic trigonometry

[hard plank]

me when I replace sin with csc

[lean dune]

me when I csch all over hyperbolic space

[inner crag]

What are the mods that just gives unlimited card space and stuff like that?

[hard plank]

?

[inner crag]

Ive seen videos of mods that just remove the joker cap and stuff like that but I can never find them

[hard plank]

you can do that with debugplus commands

[inner crag]

Heh?

[static shale]

yea

[open dragon]

Chat, is there any consistent way to make a mod work and not crash balatro?

[mild thistle]

hey there, whats a mod that i can get the jokers i want, i wanna see what i can do starting on ante 1 with all 5 legendarys

[full edge]

debug plus allows you to mess around with a bunch of debug options, including spawning jokers

[mild thistle]

debug plus, got it, thanks

[hard plank]

you have to

1. download debug plus mod
2. go to collections
3. press 3 on the jokers you want to spawn

[mild thistle]

ty

[open dragon]

.

[rotund warren]

@dusky heart Would you be down to help me review the mods for the mod index?

[dusky heart]

Sure, i've got half an hour. What did you need looking over?

[rotund warren]

No, I mean in general

[dusky heart]

I am bad at interpreting context, and yes, happy to approve PRs for the mod-index if it would lessen the load for you

[rotund warren]

Sent you an invite

[dusky heart]

I beg your pardon

[hard plank]

transgender no

[dusky heart]

transgender what

[hard plank]

the poll asked "am i funny"

the choices are no or transgender no

[dusky heart]

What an upsetting way for astrapboy to discover they are both transgender and unfunny

[hard plank]

🏳️‍⚧️

time to add my mod to the mod manager index

[vestal valve]

the mod for which development will resume tomorrow?

[hard plank]

yes

[open dragon]

the jolliness is plentiful

[hard plank]

can I have cross mod content

please

i love

[hard plank]

try crash card sometimes

[open dragon]

i did lol

[hard plank]

you will create 30000000 jolly jokers

[open dragon]

really?
dang
this game is jolly fr

[open dragon]

i dont really get how they were able to make the crash log screen rainbow

[junior rock]

havent sold anything, why isnt leaf working

[hard plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[junior rock]

😭

i have the latest smods and lovely

if that narrows it down

[hard plank]

wait is it related to my mod

[junior rock]

would have to be something really f'd up if so, cause its disabled

[hard plank]

ah

😭😭😭

what mods do you have installed

[grand geode]

update smods

[junior rock]

what do you mean update smods

i updated it today

im on 1425c

[grand geode]

a fix was deployed like an hour or so ago

[junior rock]

alright ty ill check it out

[full edge]

Does anyone remember which mods had Jokers with activatable abilities?

[digital marsh]

I finally took the time to look at what part of the game is in WindowsApps with the PC Gamepass version but it's just a link to the actual install

[dusky heart]

Oh interesting, looks like a simple symlink. That's also good news for the modding front, it means there's no AppContainer causing any pesky permissions problems

Thanks for checking

[digital marsh]

A little unsure where this partial path with code in it is tho

[sleek granite]

thats the lovely stacktrace

[dusky heart]

Metherul has commented that it's due to the lua511.dll module missing, but is working on adding support for it

[digital marsh]

Sorry, who? Not a contributor on the Lovely Injector github repo (I checked)?

unless they use a different name over there

Are they Ethan Green?

oh, ok 😅

Nevermind, I found the discussion. Guess I'll just wait for the experts to give their verdict!

[dusky heart]

Though usernames are preferred by some who want to keep the professional side of GitHub separate from the... less so side of game modding

[digital marsh]

Yeah

[sleek granite]

hee hee hoo hoo

we're maximally professional here

anyway time to crank out like 20 more jokers i have no intention of doing art for

[digital marsh]

Isn't making art for a joker (and finding a funny name for it) half of the fun?

[sleek granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[digital marsh]

Wait, so you just make glass cards, break them and get permanent x2?

[sleek granite]

do glass cards score while held in hand?

[digital marsh]

"score"

to score you need to play a card

at least in vanilla, scoring is exclusively done with played cards that form a hand

[dusky heart]

Maybe "are scored" would be slightly more precise wording?

[sleek granite]

the Steel Cards in the room;

[digital marsh]

getting +13 mult from shoot the moon isn't scoring, for example

neither are steel cards.

they "give x1.5 mult" WITHOUT scoring

that's why golden ticket exists, too

But yeah, semantics aside, if you destroy gold and steel cards this joker sounds insane

[sleek granite]

perhaps even a little bit twisted

[digital marsh]

but then you add mime, shoot the moon, barron...

If I'm ever making a mod I'd probably focus on making jokers pushing other playstyles than those that can get to naneinf in vanilla 😆

For example, face cards get all the hype, while aces only have 3 jokers working with them, two of which are straight jokers (meaning Ace has to share the spotlight even with them)!

[sleek granite]

i have 54 jokers i figured i was due for one that fits the meta

[digital marsh]

fair enough

[sleek granite]

i still like this one

[digital marsh]

maybe you should word it "2 extra copies" and make it clear the copies are added to the graveyard (not hand or deck)

[sleek granite]

i-

the reminder text is there to remind you

it isn't there just because i felt like it would be funny

[digital marsh]

I can't read

lmao

usually I treat grey text as flavor text 😆

[sleek granite]

extra copies is a good point tho

[lean dune]

[digital marsh]

what's this 98% meme?

[digital marsh]

But how can that be, when 100% of players are 18+?

[grand geode]

18+ =/= literate

what a cruel world we live in

[sleek granite]

aure pls

[lean dune]

neither of which applies to all balatro players

[grand geode]

true

[digital marsh]

mining away

[grand geode]

all of us are children totally

[sleek granite]

WAIT I HAVE TWO STARS SUITS LMAO

[olive hamlet]

Some really brutal finisher blinds I've made (intended to be as my own addon to Cryptid):
as well as custom quotes if you specifically die to those
(Note the abnormal stuff is a result of DebugPlus just to act as a demo)

[lean dune]

also balatro is pegi 12 now

[lean dune]

the stars and the other stars

[grand geode]

more children 🎉

more illiteracy 🎉

[sleek granite]

i was referring to the menu sucking with this many suits tho

[lean dune]

yeah i know

[sleek granite]

sorry

[lean dune]

and i get how that's bad

[digital marsh]

Basically "if you had the wrong kind of build you instantly lose"?

The later two seem too hard to pivot your strategy around in just one ante

[junior rock]

has someone made a mod with pinned but to the right, if not can someone make one for me. just trying to test something real quick

[sleek granite]

but also funny names can happen anyway :3

[digital marsh]

It's 100% beatable with some builds, but if you prepare for one the other ends you...

[sleek granite]

its cryptid you have every build

[digital marsh]

what does "upgrading a suit" mean?

[digital marsh]

Oh, so a way to make playing flushes less boring?

[sleek granite]

just another angle you can take to improve card scoring

[digital marsh]

And what are the cards upgrading suits called? or are they spectral?

[sleek granite]

ive also got perma mult (and xmult/xchips) working but not many things that use it yet

[sleek granite]

they're in the planets

[digital marsh]

They sound way better than planets

even if only 1/6th of your cards get a bonus, it's still very easy to incorporate that bonus compared to upgrading a hand that might not get found during a blind

[sleek granite]

hence why the bonus is +5/+1 per level

[digital marsh]

yes

[sleek granite]

instead of +30/+4 or whatever it is that the better planets are

[digital marsh]

Do they show-up outside of celestial packs?

[sleek granite]

yes in the shop

they are planets

[digital marsh]

playing a flush of a lv 2 suit is still +25 / +5, more than doubling a lv 1 flush's base value

[sleek granite]

yes

you have to get a flush of that suit tho

[digital marsh]

yep

[junior rock]

suit specific upgrades seem fine

its just a bit strong once you get deckfixed

[digital marsh]

are there seals to find suit upgrades?

[sleek granite]

which makes it more comparable to increasing the level of Straight Flush or some other Flush derivative

i have not added Seals yet

i may or may not add one for suit upgrading

[digital marsh]

I assume the fool is the only way to get more then?

that and luck

no telescope either

[sleek granite]

yeah

i wanna design more jokers for em but /shrug

good ideas cannot be rushed

tbh i was wanting to lean more into effects that level up suits directly rather than giving the planet cards

[digital marsh]

Maybe a second voucher that upgrades from telescope to garentee a suit upgrade along with the most played planet?

[sleek granite]

since i'm NOT making a planet card for every suit from every mod

and we all know how blue seal just loves it if you dont make a planet for your poker hands

(it crashes)

[digital marsh]

Couldn't you code a way for the game to generate generic suit planet cards for new suits, with more basic art and names?

[sleek granite]

technically yes but the way to do it would be such a "dirty" job that it would probably actually screw up like mod compat and stuff

cuz i'd have to register smods objects at the wrong timing

which. i dont want to think about.

[digital marsh]

hmmm

yeah

[sleek granite]

i mean i could try to just rely on my mod loading later but thats a bad idea also

[digital marsh]

So your Astron't Joker doesn't combo with Chad?

[sleek granite]

no its like space joker

[digital marsh]

Fair

[sleek granite]

i also have suit burnt

[digital marsh]

this + 4 fingers lmao

[junior rock]

very cool

[digital marsh]

you get to upgrade a one-of lol

[junior rock]

do the suits have unique upgrade rates, etc

[sleek granite]

that and wild cards are why its worded as it is

[sleek granite]

no

all suits are +5/+1

[junior rock]

are there jokers specific to the new suits?

stars/moons

[digital marsh]

Sinful jokers of course

[junior rock]

and then gems?

[sleek granite]

i didnt add stars/moons

[junior rock]

ah

[sleek granite]

those are sixsuits i just like sixsuits

[junior rock]

fair

[digital marsh]

I saw gems for star and moon on a wiki, but maybe it was another mod

it was sixsuits

[sleek granite]

sixsuits i think has all the standard suit support

[digital marsh]

sixsuits adds the gems and sinful jokers

[sleek granite]

i got u

[junior rock]

is there a mod with a retrigger joker for 10-6/Aces

[digital marsh]

I have a vague idea for a mod, but I don't know how it would work... Probably a deck, since it's so "weird" and you'd want to do a whole run of it, not pick-up a joker to enable it.

[sleek granite]

lulink tell me this is unbalanced

[flat bolt]

Where can I find the list for mods?

[junior rock]

inscryption type beat

[sleek granite]

its slay the spire 😭

[digital marsh]

deck-fixing in a bottle

[junior rock]

uhhh theres a mod index somewhere (and an index of mod indexes basically)

gimme a sec

[digital marsh]

you always have a strong card ready for death copying

[sleek granite]

and the copy is bottled too

[junior rock]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[digital marsh]

if it's a purple seal, red steel/gold or cyan it's very good

[sleek granite]

what the fuck is a cyan

[flat bolt]

thanks!

[digital marsh]

cyan seal

[junior rock]

blue seal

[sleek granite]

teal seal

[digital marsh]

tell me the blue seal isn't cyan

[sleek granite]

it's actually yellow

[digital marsh]

sorry but you are colorblind

[sleek granite]

no my friend it is you who is blind to colors!!! uahaha

[junior rock]

tritanopia be damned

[digital marsh]

(colorblind is played between the big blind and boss blind as a bonus blind)

[junior rock]

honestly that could be fun lol

[digital marsh]

Maybe the gimmick would be that you can't lose it, and you only draw cards of one suit (color)

but if you lose you get no cash prize

[junior rock]

voucher ideas:?
tritanopia , adds a blue/yellow colour blind between the big blind and the boss blind
deuteranopia, adds a red/green colour blind between the small blind and the big blind

[sleek granite]

this is also a funny image to show people who dont know my mod and how insane i am

[junior rock]

whats the angry one

[junior rock]

thats awesome

[sleek granite]

(yes these are a homestuck reference)

[digital marsh]

[Shredded Deck] Regular hands all get broken-down into their components. Flush and Straight only requier 4 cards.
For example, if you play a straight flush -> you'd score a straight and a flush at once.
Maybe 4 fingers is also considered base-kit so you can play straight+pair or flush+pair from the start, and 2 pairs + flush or straight is enabled by the 3 fingers joker.
straight and flush scoring would be rebalanced, of course.

[sleek granite]

also also
god damn i have added so much crap to this game

im literally just sitting here yapping about my mod im sorry yall ;;

[digital marsh]

pros of the deck: you get to improvise a little more with what you get!
Usually if you draw a flush and you leveled flush you just play it: now you get to try and add a pair to it, of keep your discards for later...
going all in on one planet card could no longer be THE way to go.
tarrot cards that change a card's suit (even lovers) are always usable as a means to get your flush bonus on top of what you are playing.

Cons: confusing and hard to balance, probably
Also deck-fixing would make it useless at some point

What do you guys think? Would such a deck be interesting to play or is there a huge flaw that makes it exploitable and always play the exact same way?

[junior rock]

this seems like it could be fun just as is

without changing the balance of planet cards

youd want to go for the highest hand that contains the highest components

[sleek granite]

-# also me: "hm i should add another whole new mechanic to the game"

[junior rock]

flush five probably contains the highest scoring components

[digital marsh]

Really? just removing neptune, eris and whatever flush house is?

[junior rock]

?

[digital marsh]

those would no longer exist since they are composed of smaller hands

straight + something or flush + something

[sleek granite]

the way you are thinking about hands is not how the game thinks about hands

[junior rock]

so everything is just straight+, flush+, pair+, high card

[digital marsh]

I know it's not and that's the whole point of the deck

I'm thinking each type of hand could give a different ratio of chips, +mult and x mult too

maybe high card -> 5 of a kind give + mult

[junior rock]

• for the big hand, x for the small hand component?

[digital marsh]

flush gives mostly chips

and straights a nice xmult?

[junior rock]

i feel like it should be consistent

as in like

the left attribute gives x, the right attribute gives y

[digital marsh]

Two pairs and houses, I'm not sure what they would score as

[junior rock]

3oak + pair

pair + pair

unsure about 4oak

[digital marsh]

4 oak =/= 2 pairs

[junior rock]

ik

but it is a pair + pair

its just not two pair by definition

[digital marsh]

not really since they don't trigger spare pants

do they?

but full house does

because the 3oak is a different rank from the pair

[junior rock]

what

[digital marsh]

4oak don't trigger pants I think?

[junior rock]

im saying it is a pair + pair, its just not two pair

because two pair is two different ranked pairs

[sleek granite]

two pair is a different hand from "two pairs"

[digital marsh]

this sounds insane

but yes

[sleek granite]

but also i think 4oak contains 6 pairs

someone check my math on that im not thinking right now

[junior rock]

24 actually

4!

or am i thinking about this wrong

[sleek granite]

uhhhh unique pairs

[junior rock]

oh no im doing

[digital marsh]

Ok, next question... Which jokers from the base game get broken by my hypothetical deck?

[junior rock]

total combos of 4 when i should be doing

4 Choose 2

which is 6

yeah youre right

[sleek granite]

Seance

i'm regrettably american so i dont know how to type that correctly

[junior rock]

errr do u want me to make a list

[cerulean locust]

now the question is

[junior rock]

FRDEY FABEY

[cerulean locust]

can a four of a kind contain a queen pair?

[sleek granite]

um. yes

i dont think that was ever in question actually

[digital marsh]

yeah, it had to get re-coded with a new kind of check I guess... but the text could be the same, since you are still playing the same cards, just the scoring is different, separate from the joker's effect?

[junior rock]

"broken" as in they dont work or "broken" as in theyre too strong

i think the latter basically doesnt exist tbf

[digital marsh]

don't work

[junior rock]

gotcha

[cerulean locust]

think carefully

[junior rock]

mad joker, clever joker

supernova?

[digital marsh]

All the jolly, crazy, zany, whatever & cie. jokers would still work with my deck idea: in fact they work LIKE my idea by being included in higher hands as well

[junior rock]

to do list

[digital marsh]

supernova could proc twice or thrice! maybe 4 times with 3 fingers...

if you play a straight flush pair

[junior rock]

seance, trousers, family, burnt joker

[digital marsh]

or a two pair straight flush... like 44 5 66 lmao

[junior rock]

honestly like

make 3fingers affect four card hands too

[digital marsh]

burnt could either upgrade one at random, the lowest componnent, highest componnent or all of them 🤔

[junior rock]

or all of them

would be the most fun

[digital marsh]

truuuue

[cerulean locust]

Me: *Discards my flush to upgrade it with Burnt Joker*
My level 284 Pair:

https://tenor.com/view/sml-chef-pee-pee-pizza-oh-yeah-were-eating-good-tonight-eating-good-tonight-gif-22847902

[junior rock]

no other hands contain high card

by definition

[digital marsh]

3 of a kind turning into 4 of a kind? ewwwwwwww

(keep cooking)

[cerulean locust]

oh shit yeah true

[junior rock]

real!

[cerulean locust]

hold on lemme edit the message to fit more

[junior rock]

which is why high card jokers make no sense

because only high card should contain high card

[cerulean locust]

there we go

[junior rock]

but they just always proc

[urban grail]

is there a mod that adds a search box in the joker collection?

[junior rock]

honestly like

[digital marsh]

I mean... I could see a joker giving chips or mult for every hand NOT SCORING in a high card play lol

[junior rock]

5oak giving you 10 levels of pair (5C2 = 10)

[limpid lake]

#1292542891800920215

[digital marsh]

your goal is to assemble a 5 card hand that has no pair, straight or flush

[junior rock]

+150 +10

[junior rock]

splash:

[digital marsh]

splash ruins it of course

[junior rock]

yeah well otherwise itd be impossible

because all 5 card hands contain a pair, straight or a flush

[digital marsh]

no they don't necessarily? I mean selecting 5 unrelated cards

you play a high card with 4 non-scoring is what I meant

[sleek granite]

unscored calc did get added to smods recently

i dont know of anyone who's used it tho

[digital marsh]

[Splat] (evil counterpart to [Splash]) : played non-scoring cards get discarded instead.

only useful with purple seals and other discard effects tho 🤔

[sleek granite]

i mean unscored calc means you can literally just have them give like X1.5 mult or something

yknow what im making that joker right now

why not

[digital marsh]

1.5 is huuuuge on such an easy effect to activate

[limpid lake]

i used it (for a legendary that eats unscored non-3s)

[hard plank]

😭

friend got cooked by photochad

[sleek granite]

pog do you happen to know off-hand what the optional feature tag is

[digital marsh]

I mean he could have had it too

[hard plank]

he doesn't :(

[lean dune]

cardareas.unscored

[sleek granite]

thanks

[limpid lake]

https://github.com/wingedcatgirl/MintysSillyMod/blob/main/MintysSillyMod.lua#L6 demonstrated thus

[sleek granite]

yippee

[digital marsh]

[Single Child Joker] if a 5th card is played with two pairs or four of a kind, destroy it.

Would that make a fine Uncommon? Destroying cards is so good...

[alpine wigeon]

the cold war run

[digital marsh]

What does the modded joker do?

[alpine wigeon]

gives xmult for all red ranks, sets the sell price of everything to 0

so if you play 5 cards with diamonds or hearts, it gives 5xmult

[digital marsh]

red suits you mean, then

cool

[sleek granite]

boom

[digital marsh]

and it's UNCOMMON?!

[sleek granite]

5.06

[digital marsh]

So unbalanced smh

(if you have good high-cards or pairs already)

I like the name

[sleek granite]

the goal of theautumncircus is actually just to outrun everyone who offers to do art for me by just continuing to churn out random shit

[digital marsh]

fitting for a joker that makes you play a whole lot of nothing

[sleek granite]

Thanks.

[digital marsh]

Could you show me a cool joker you want art for but nobody has offered help yet?

(no promise I'd do it, but if I really like it I'll try)

[sleek granite]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[digital marsh]

not what I meant by "show me" lol

[junior rock]

gimme one to do :3

[sleek granite]

idk im sorry im not here to beg for ppl to do art

[junior rock]

youre not the one begging 😭

[digital marsh]

Why is the default joker picture representing the 6 suits mod if your mod isn't 6 suits?

[sleek granite]

it doesnt

those dont correlate to suits its just like a test print color thingy

i thought it looked cool

[digital marsh]

test prints are usually 4 colors (primary ones + black) I think

but it looks kinda cool 🤔

[junior rock]

pweeease :3

[sleek granite]

i think i just picked the like "basic palette"

like there's certain colors balatro uses A LOT

[junior rock]

ya

[digital marsh]

You don't have to ask, just show us a concept and maybe it will inspire someone to make art. nothing to do with begging

[junior rock]

:3

[sleek granite]

i think those 6 are the most used ones aside from like card-white and the border color

[junior rock]

is ur mod public at the very least?

[sleek granite]

yeah

[digital marsh]

makes sense

[junior rock]

can u link it

[sleek granite]

you too can play with the like 50 jokers and 100 consumables and like 40 poker hands and

[junior rock]

[sleek granite]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1331462654732144721 its in here

[junior rock]

ty

[digital marsh]

I litterally can't

[sleek granite]

yes you can

anything is possible

[digital marsh]

because I own Balatro on Android and PC Gamepass

[sleek granite]

hee hee hoo hoo

[junior rock]

u can mod on gamepass, no?

[digital marsh]

just texture swaps for now

[sleek granite]

it is allowed

[junior rock]

cause its PC

[junior rock]

damn

[digital marsh]

due to how the game's structured when downloaded through gamepass it's not easy to do for now

but the Lovely injector has plans to try and make something

[junior rock]

whats are the dimensions for balatro cards again

[sleek granite]

not easy to do does not mean litterally can't

[digital marsh]

1 wee-joker's height wide, one tarrot card tall

[junior rock]

ty ty

i was more meaning uhhh

pixels

[digital marsh]

[junior rock]

61x26 or something

[exotic belfry]

72x95 iirc

[sleek granite]

71x95 with 1px transparent border

[exotic belfry]

71 whoops lol

[digital marsh]

which ones man?

[sleek granite]

(cards are permitted to transgress this border)

[junior rock]

ty

[sleek granite]

lucky card and a few jokers do

[junior rock]

so its 71x95, but border inclusive its 72x95

[exotic belfry]

2x is the standard 71x95. 1x I believe is half that

[sleek granite]

no

[limpid lake]

1x is standard size, 2x is 2x

[digital marsh]

x1 and x2

[junior rock]

gotcha

ty

[sleek granite]

i love everyone saying different wrong information

[junior rock]

so do the 2x have more detail

[exotic belfry]

Lmfao

[junior rock]

or is it JUST scaled up

[sleek granite]

Chaos!!!

[junior rock]

anyone have a colour palette for balatro 😭

[digital marsh]

x2 is just pixels are twice as big lol

[limpid lake]

i've only ever just scaled it up
i have no idea what it'd look like if someone made the 2x actually be more detailed

[junior rock]

[digital marsh]

pick colors from the vanilla jokers?

[sleek granite]

1x and 2x are just for the pixel smoothing option

[junior rock]

ya so i dont wanna do that cause im sure someone already has a colour palette

[junior rock]

gotcha

[sleek granite]

2x is for not smooth pixels

1x is for blurry pixels

[digital marsh]

You could just take the x1 and zoom on them and get the same result 🤦‍♂️

[junior rock]

found the colour palette

[limpid lake]

you could! i don't know why you have to do it this way

[sleek granite]

oh huh apparently the 1x cards dont look blurry asf in game anymore

[digital marsh]

Because LocalThunk is not known for his codding skills, but for other stuff I guess

[sleek granite]

i wonder why that was happening before, maybe a mod was doing something

[digital marsh]

no shame in that

The myth that everything has to be made perfect for a product to work...

[sleek granite]

clearly this joker needs new art

[digital marsh]

let's nerf it by making art for it

I'm thinking it could be a very poorly drawn jimbo (done with basic geometric shapes) with a "to do" post-it on it

[sleek granite]

lets nerf it by making art for the other jokers