#⚙・modding-general

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swift matrix
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plus, my Joker Voucher ended up stuck at x75, when at one point it was x142+

daring sluice
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how do you play with these colors

swift matrix
daring sluice
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no i mean

swift matrix
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oh I see

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lmfaooo

daring sluice
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how do you cope with how terrible the visibility is

swift matrix
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How do I manage? pffft

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I uh... vibe with it man

daring sluice
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the very dark purple text on the black background is killing me

swift matrix
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I fixed most of the clashing like that, but I guess the dscard color is still a bit dark for the BG

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But the mult window on the darker BG looks fine to me shrugs

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maybe you just have a better monitor

swift matrix
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apperently I only have the 1080p version, but very likely the same shitty gamut

stoic topaz
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hi! i don't know if this exactly counts as modding, but i'm interested in changing some of the sprite files in the game like i've seen be done online. i've opened balatro with winrar and 7zip, but winrar says the archive is corrupt when i try to make any changes, and 7zip says the operations are not supported. any help would be appreciated!

pure slate
distant relic
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How easy would it be to change one of the cards to a different name and texture

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I wanna make planet x into haumea

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I would like to note i can't use computers well

stoic topaz
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i've been trying to edit the top file, just balatro.exe

pure slate
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hold on, not at my PC so gimme a second

west hill
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Are you interested in other mods at all?

pure slate
# stoic topaz

i might be remembering wrong, and i honestly cannot remeber how i did it - but IIRC:
• put the .exe into a .zip
• then unzip it?

idk if you’ve already tried that, but i cannot find the thing i used to do it 😭

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(i might be breaking one of the modding rules, do say if i am 😭)

tired roost
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remebered this meme, and i just need to show this to yall

vivid iris
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Go to Steam -> Balatro -> Properties -> Files Installed -> Check files integrity
This should give you a fresh install of Balatro. The Mods folder is not removed but the mods themselves won't be injected.

vivid iris
tired roost
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no, just a perfect replacment for "Photograph"

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there is a crazy backstroy to that image

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The kid insisted that he should dress up as a clown for the family photo

stoic topaz
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i'm also trying it on another pc and getting the same results

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this doesn't seem to be a balatro specific issue, 7zip is having the same trouble adding/changing files elsewhere too

stoic topaz
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what's weird is that 7zip lets me edit the text files, but not the image files

swift matrix
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At least I'm pretty sure you can do that with this type of exe

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In any case, I'm deep into another pretty crazy run

pure slate
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whats even.. going on in there GOODLORDWHATISHAPPENINGINTHERE

swift matrix
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Mr. Hands 🐴 (Snorseville Joker, let's just ignore the reference, lmao)

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That's why I drew my whole deck

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everything else is just standard betmma and general modded shenanigans

river lark
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lol

tired roost
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where is the link to Lovley?

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i think i have an outdated version

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ok, found it

formal beacon
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i need some help with getting steammodded to work

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i am like 70% sure i did this right but the mod list button isnt showing up in the menu

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actually i take it back i had to use the injector and that fixed it somehow

tranquil vessel
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you probably shouldn't be using the injector

sullen basalt
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guys the fusion joker mods is crashing my game with this error when I fuse any jokers, anybody know a fix?

fallow bramble
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Your version of Steamodded is too recent

sullen basalt
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ah ok, thanks

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love your "stuff" mod btw

fallow bramble
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Thanks!

wind panther
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okay chat what are your thoughts on these

-- JokerGame 1989 - "Water game" based thing, x4 mult when ball in cup, but :juice_up launches the ball
-- Nerd Joker - x4 mult if Chips is prime, debuffed if Chips > 1,000,000,000
-- Tourist Joker - +25 mult if language is not set to system language
-- Roll the Dice - x{N} mult, 5/6 chance when selling this card to create a Roll the Dice with the same seals, enhancements, editions, and stickers, and x{N * 1.5} (x1.5) mult (N starts at 1, sells for $1)
-- Pirate Joker - +20 mult if Steam is not initialized
-- Faceblind Joker - All face cards are treated as every face card
--     Straight House - A straight and a full house at the same time (Only possible with Dyslexic Joker and Four Fingers)
--     Flush Straight House - Good luck.
-- Scrambled Joker - Each played hand is scored as a random hand type - Includes locked hand types
-- Hourglass - +30 mult, decreases by 0.1 every second
-- Punched Joker - Played and discarded cards are shuffled back into the deck
-- Perfectly Generic Object - +10 mult for every Joker without "Joker" in its name (searches for the localized string of the Joker card)
-- Domino - Swaps Chips and Mult
-- Raccoon Joker - Allows discarding during opened Packs, discards used remove from the next Blind's discard count
-- Joker^3 - Repeated 1 in 3 chance to retrigger all card effects 3 times (Legendary, uses raymarching to make a 3D cube)
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(:juice_up is the internal name for the card shake thing that happens when a card is triggered)

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i plan on making at least some of these

tired roost
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Boss Blinds idea

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"Lefty"
All even number cards are debuffed

"Righty"
All odd number cards are debuffed

wanton rapids
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i think those already exist in cryptid

rigid jewel
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Nerd Joker is a math joker and therefore I must endorse

latent nimbus
runic latch
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for Pirate Joker its also funny but I dont think people would appreciate it as it may be seen as encouraging piracy

tight scarab
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I just had a horrible mod idea
To complete an action, you must drink a specified amount of water
Want to play white stake? Drink 2 cups of water. Gold stake is free though!
Want to play a hand? Discard? 1/4 cup, plus a tablespoon per card.
Want to cash out? A tablespoon per dollar. That investment tag you took costed you over a cup of water
You could also refuse certain things and not drink water, cashing out for instance, but you won’t get rewarded.
By the time you beat ante 8, you’ll be fully hydrated!

manic summit
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whats the mod that adds the skip tags in the shop

junior rock
calm kraken
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Is there a documentation of the different types of contexts

calm kraken
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thanks man

calm kraken
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ok i'm a bit confused as to what the proper approach for making code that triggers when a joker is acquired. to be specific i'm not referring to just any joker being bought but the joker that the code is inside of

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I looked up on the card library site jokers that trigger something when aquired or bought, and the functions they used dont seem to trigger properly for me. Loan Shark from bunco used add, and Balatro Mobile from betmma jokers used buy_from_shop

fallow bramble
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What joker effect are you trying to achieve?

calm kraken
# fallow bramble What joker effect are you trying to achieve?

i'm adjusting code from the previous version of Cardsauce to 1.0.0, currently on Very Expensive Joker. Gote actually looked for support on this same issue in #💻・modding-dev a while ago. I've gotten the intended outcome to work, but I had to include it in the calculate function which I thought was a bit hacky.

To breifly explain the joker's effect, the player spends all money obtaining the joker, and for every $10 spent on it, the joker gains X0.5 mult. That's the effect that's supposed to trigger when acquiring.

fallow bramble
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And context.buying_card isn't enough?

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or add_to_deck ?

calm kraken
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When I wrote code to add an add_to_deck function to the joker's file it never got triggered

fallow bramble
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Why so? Can you show how you wrote it?

calm kraken
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sure gimme a second

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    sendInfoMessage("Adding Very Expensive Joker...") -- temp
    card.ability.extra.x_mult = (math.floor(card.cost/10)/2) + 1
    sendInfoMessage("Very Expensive Joker now has x_mult value of "..card.ability.extra.x_mult) -- temp
    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
        func = function()
            card:juice_up()
            card_eval_status_text(card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra.x_mult}}, colour = G.C.MONEY, instant = true})
            card.cost = 4
            return true
        end
    }))
end```
fallow bramble
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Is jokerInfo a SMODS.Joker object?

calm kraken
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yeah

fallow bramble
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Why not add "add_to_deck" directly into it?

calm kraken
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idk, guess that wasn't how Gote or Myst decided to organize this, regardless though the calculate function works when written in this format

fallow bramble
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the sendInfoMessage don't show up?

calm kraken
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yep

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and this same code works when I include it in calculate under an if statement for the buying_card context

fallow bramble
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Odd

calm kraken
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it's not too big of a deal that it doesn't work, like I said before It works when in calculate, I just feel like it would be best to seperate the aquirement code from the calculate function since that's also where the mult is added

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oh wait

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it works now

fallow bramble
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Wha

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how

calm kraken
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idk what was different there

fallow bramble
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I'm just that good 😎

calm kraken
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lemme check the project history

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oooohhh i see

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you said to use add_to_deck, when I was trying to use buy_from_shop and add previously

tranquil vessel
fallow bramble
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lol

fallow bramble
calm kraken
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should probably make it so that this joker can't just be randomly acquired though outside of the shop

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like if you get this from judgement it wouldnt do shit

fallow bramble
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We do a little judgement trolling

split coral
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anaglyph deck + sleeve is pretty crazy

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double tag every round

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four negative tags by ante 2

tranquil vessel
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maybe it should be rebalanced tbh

split coral
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or the double nebula that gives you observatory to start

tranquil vessel
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you mean checkered deck + ghost sleeve or both of them seperately?

split coral
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their combination

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can be vice versa i think

tranquil vessel
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yeah yeah it can

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that one is just their respective decks both being kind of insane

split coral
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oh and double checkered makes ALL cards either spades or hearts

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so you can efficiently manipulate it

latent nimbus
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straight flushes finally viable

tranquil vessel
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yeah it's a lot easier to add cards with double checkered

split coral
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i actually dont know what double abandoned is

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maybe no future face cards?

tranquil vessel
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same idea as double checkered

split coral
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ah

tranquil vessel
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yeah

split coral
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do they skip to aces or something

tranquil vessel
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if you use strength? yeah

split coral
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ok

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makes sense

dense vessel
split coral
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and if you use a lot of mods theres amethyst deck which is just painted deck but more than 5 times better

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AND it has a sleeve

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so while double anaglyph may seem op, just remember when everyone is super, no one is.

copper knot
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One deck sleeve combo that is busted is negative deck with the sleeve that allows you to select as many cards as you want
(Both require cryptid mod and subsequent prerequisites)

tranquil vessel
# dense vessel

yeah sorry man, got no clue, haven't really looked into SMODS' consumables

copper knot
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I just wish I could find a perkeo to dupe death

split coral
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tried to check in collection but it wont show

split coral
copper knot
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True

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What I love about neg deck is the ease at which you can do deck fixing

split coral
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i just wish i could find a perkeo too, sure need it

tranquil vessel
copper knot
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So many double tags

split coral
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average double anaglyph gameplay

tranquil vessel
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oh man, can't even fit on the screen anymore

split coral
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note that i used cursed death to get where i am today

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and now i am cursed with some firestarter and telepath

tranquil vessel
copper knot
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Yep

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And with the sleeve of the deck that doesn't cap how many cards you can select you can play an entire deck with one hand. It scores every cards (assuming deck is unchanged) and calls it a straight flush

tranquil vessel
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haha alright that's a good start

copper knot
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Yeah

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Death is so much more powerful with that deck because you can literally change any card to any card, and there isn't really a point to delete cards

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So if I can get lucky and find a perkeo with death I can play and score an entire hand of flush 5

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Also money gen can get nutty real fast

frozen heart
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Or double wormhole

copper knot
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Wormhole changes all cards to a suit right?

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Not a suit a rank

frozen heart
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Wormhole is an exotic but -2 joker slots

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Balanced is all cards have the same chance to appear in shops

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With crustulum its funny

split coral
tranquil vessel
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balanced sleeve is crazy yeah

copper knot
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I officially have no idea what yall are talking about now lol

split coral
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logistics my beloved

frozen heart
copper knot
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Ah I see

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From which mod?

frozen heart
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Im just running cryptid and sleaves

copper knot
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Same

frozen heart
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With the jan edition

copper knot
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Cool

split coral
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logistics is the best card in modded change my mind

frozen heart
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I keep crashing the game

copper knot
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Oof

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Maybe install that one mod for potato computers to help with crashes

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I dunno

split coral
ocean rune
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Favorite jokers in packbalatrojoker

split coral
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ohhh what mod is that

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that seems awesome

copper knot
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That it does

split coral
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course it favors high card

frozen heart
split coral
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i see

copper knot
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Oh well yeah that can be a problem

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The real difficulty of negative deck is inventory management lol

split coral
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have you considered unplugging it and plugging it back in?

copper knot
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Pffffft

frozen heart
copper knot
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My point still stands tho lol, I have to limit myself on how many jokers I pick up or my pc screams at me lol

split coral
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well do you want your pc to scream^2

copper knot
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No

split coral
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b-but logistics 😭

copper knot
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I'll check it out

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What is the deck sleeve combo?

split coral
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its a joker

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but my current combo is double anaglyph

copper knot
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Oh oki

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I'm not used to the cryptid mod, and don't have the names of all the vanilla jokers memorized yet either

mild gust
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can someone help teach me to figure out what mod is causing a crash?

copper knot
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I cant help much, can you send a screenshot of your crash report

tranquil vessel
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(copy-paste is preferred >:D)

copper knot
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new knowledge gained

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uhhhhh

round ore
copper knot
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i accidentally closed the game 😢

round ore
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whats that one mod

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that changes the way choosing a stake looks

swift matrix
round ore
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thanks

swift matrix
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Np :3

copper knot
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its already gotten so strong

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Gemini and Tenebris is gonna be such a broken combo

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oh lord

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and i just got a voucher to make all costs $1 on top of a blueprint

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i went too far i need to reset the run because it is unamanageable lol;

swift matrix
copper knot
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thx

swift matrix
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Actually I should push an update to my modpack

copper knot
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Welp I found a way to get infinite money while in the shop

rain hazel
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Is there a mod like Deck Creator thats up to date? Or is there a way to update the mod?

copper knot
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I think I am a lil over powered

round ore
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what

copper knot
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fun fact this is unseeded

round ore
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you ever just wanna have 5 bajillion joker mods at once all enabled?

copper knot
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it almost crashed my pc trying to score it

round ore
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real

copper knot
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your poor pc

round ore
swift matrix
copper knot
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yeah my brain read at once lol

swift matrix
round ore
swift matrix
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There's other bigger modpacks but they add too many things that add new mechanics for my tastes

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This is pure content for the most part

swift matrix
round ore
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what if we had a mod where if you lose the game closes

copper knot
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thats called alt f4

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even the gods shall fear me

round ore
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real

copper knot
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here are my jokers

mental solar
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damn this could be big to get rid of half of two different suites, should i ouija for early game or red stamp for late game... (gold stake run anti 2)

copper knot
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* followed by a number means they are hooked to the card with that corresponding notation
x followed by a number is how many I have

Perkeo
Baron
Waluigi x 3
Triboulet x 2
Sock and Buskin x 5
Mime
Crustulum
Tenebris
Blueprint x 2
Blueprint*1
Blueprint*2
Blueprint*2
Blueprint*3
Blueprint*3
Blueprint*4
Blueprint*4
Blueprint*5
Brainstorm*1
Brainstorm*5
Brainstorm x 2
Space Joker x 3
Oops! All 6s x 4
Chicot
Lucky Cat
Stencil
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oh also I found observatory so that means I get to have fun with creating absolute madness

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welp I was so powerful I crashed my game

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that was fun :3

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I even got the achievement beyond infinity a lil while back

round ore
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@swift matrix it took me like 5 years

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but i finally loaded your modpack up

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hopefully it does not crash when I start a run

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okay

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I can start a run

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this is pog

swift matrix
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Ayyy nice

round ore
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I just saw THAT ONE deck

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what does it even do

swift matrix
round ore
swift matrix
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Not a clue what it does, lol

grand geode
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To all controller users: Does the game let you lock onto the blind chip (the blind sprite) during a round?

copper knot
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Wow this is alot of score

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The fusion mod is not showing up, am I doing anything wrong?

west hill
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is it nested?

copper knot
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wdym

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oh like a folder in a folder

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lemme check\

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it was and it now works

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thanks so much

errant lagoon
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Quick question, Im new to modding and decently somewhat new to balatro (2 months), is there any way that I can play using ONLY modded content?

grand geode
pure slate
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forgot to drop all of these, but all onions

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im gonna make them a lil more distinct at some point, but for now its good

faint matrix
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what's the mod that skips animations called again?

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so that i dont' ahve to wait 300 hours between hands played lol

white scarab
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Talisman and Nopeus both do it, in different ways

copper knot
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uhhh my baron might be a lil strong

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oh gosh the score

faint matrix
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hmmm i have nopeus and it still takes like 2 minutes per hand

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i tried setting fastforward to everything and unsafe

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card text popups to none

swift matrix
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So if shouldn't be wasting too much time

faint matrix
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wdym?

swift matrix
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I just mean as a total time is your run

faint matrix
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oh i don't even look at the shops anymore

swift matrix
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Ah I see

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Very fair ngl

faint matrix
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oh wait it works now

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instant hands lets gooooo

copper knot
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my power has become too great

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My game will crash because my hand is so large

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anyways I have a high score of e1060 or so

faint matrix
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i'm on e4.2e6400

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rip it started crashing

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well that's as far as this run goes

grand geode
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Actually, Brex might have all pings off uhhh

cerulean flare
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i'm not controller user 🤔

grand geode
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I did see some screenshots of you using a controller though

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Aaaaaaa

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Okay whatever, I guess I can still implement this without consideration for controller players

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I want to add a popup that displays even more blind effects when hovering over the blind chip

swift matrix
marsh bane
grand geode
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I see, thank you so much!!

marsh bane
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Np

thick cypress
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Does anyone know how to get/install the Saturn mod?

supple orchid
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i wish i could mod mobile

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i miss 16x speed

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😔

rustic wharf
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is there a guide on how to make a "skin" for a joker

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like just edit the image assets and stuff

round ore
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I started out with 0 hands because of the curse

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i'm kinda softlocked

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helpp

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okay

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I am going to cheat and give myself 1 hand

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so I can atleast attempt

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lost anyways

swift matrix
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yeah I didn't update during a run this time. Idk what this crash is

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It seems to mention rental (despiote me not having any rental jokers that I can tell) and betmma's a lot

ember perch
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What is the newest version of Talisman at?

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Figured it out. The link on the Cryptid download page gave me errors, but I googled it and found it

swift matrix
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before it listed a joker in the log that I could just sell, but I don't see any now

fervent mauve
round ore
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yippie

swift matrix
west hill
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whats at line 4214?

round ore
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cursed purse is bugged

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when it debuffs a joker it gives joker slots

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probably not intentional

swift matrix
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I don't even have seeing double

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wait, just saw the not equals, lol

round ore
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it lagged my game so much I had to reset

west hill
# swift matrix

looks like one of your jokers is setting one of these values to something bad

swift matrix
west hill
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just that you have a lot of mods that are hooking eval card and calculate joker

tranquil vessel
west hill
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or rather, what jokers do you have?

swift matrix
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I've tried selling a couple that I suspected, but still the same crash on the same line

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for context

runic latch
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these colors are quite pleasing, is there some kind of mod that allows you to change the color of the ui to anything you want?

tranquil vessel
runic latch
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wait why do you have so many 7s

round ore
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the empty cage voucher disabling a negative joker does not remove a joker slot but re-enabling it gives another joker slot

swift matrix
runic latch
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thats pretty funny

swift matrix
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but those keep going up for some reason I can't tell

round ore
swift matrix
round ore
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so I have discovered cursed purse gives tons of joker slots and empty cage can give joker slots

tranquil vessel
swift matrix
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probably just the save, but that's binary not text

tranquil vessel
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save.jkr but it's compressed

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DebugPlus might be able to help you out

round ore
pure slate
round ore
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ya'll think I can win this

barren sandal
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Is there anyone who’d be willing to walk me through installing the pokemon mod on my steam deck? Total total amateur btw so may be more difficult that it should be…

umbral urchin
thorny cloud
umbral urchin
rustic wharf
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gg to one of my craziest runs

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nat negative triboulet and negative brainstorm from a rare tag

rustic wharf
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😭

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a lot of other crazy stuff also happened

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i am going to explode

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ogwjorowgobgbg

thorny cloud
rustic wharf
thorny cloud
swift matrix
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well I ended up fixing the crash I was having by deleting all my uncommon jokers (noticed the rarity: 2) and adding most of them back with debugplus. But then I got the same error again and this time in named the joker "The flint" one I already had multiple off Then I got this different crasdh hoving over my jokers looking for it

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I think it might be a problem with ankh-dx copying the xmult value improperly @dark wagon

tiny valve
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Do any of you guys know how I can set specific audios to play whenever a specific joker (ie. Baseball Card) is triggered?

thorny cloud
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what is this

faint matrix
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what is happening here lol

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too many e's

thorny cloud
swift matrix
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Ayyyy

thorny cloud
tired roost
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Jesus

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finished the fragile chalange on 6 cards

solemn socket
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Hi so I'm following this tutorial and trying to mod my game and I'm pretty confused. When he is in steam > manage > browse local files, does anyone know what dll file I am supposed to put in?

https://youtu.be/62DAxTg4fqw?si=g2MOiONyVV1yAO8W

Verify your game via steam before following this guide.
Update(09/04/2024): dwmapi.dll is now called version.dll. Also lovely.toml is included in the steamoddded source.zip so you're able to just download that. Everything else remains the same.

Just a quick video guide to accompany my text guide on discord.

Also try not to sniff, challenge i...

▶ Play video
rose rampart
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does anyone have the link to pokermon?

tranquil vessel
solemn socket
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Thank you!

tranquil vessel
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gotchu

copper knot
# copper knot uhhh my baron might be a lil strong

Mods needed sleeve, cryptid (w/ dependencies)
Restart run until you get the joker that gives infinite rerolls and gains chip for every reroll.
Reroll for tarot cards that give you money
Once you get enough money, open code cards till you aquire one that allows you to make a card
Use this to make Wario
This will cause you to gain $3 for every reroll
Continue to reroll to gain economy and upgrades
Have fun

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Also cause of infinite rerolls you can be very particular about which cards you pick up

solemn socket
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Hi confused again. Trying to get the pokermon mod to work and I can't figure it out. I got the mods folder to show up when the game opens but it says no mods detected. What do?

gaunt sun
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with talisman mod how do I turn off the instant calculations. I like to see numbers go up and click

copper knot
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Go to mods, click on the mod (not the box that enables it), then go to config

gaunt sun
#

Thanks!

hardy brook
#

Guess what's back

tranquil vessel
hardy brook
#

No it's the Zodiac Deck

tranquil vessel
#

clever

solemn socket
#

Has anyone here been able to get the pokermon mod to work that would be willing to walk a beginner through the process

latent crescent
swift matrix
elfin raft
#

Has anyone ran across an issue where balatro will not launch on steam?

vale arch
#

hi sorry if this is like a dumb question/question asked a lot

i installed some mods and i disabled steam cloud and deleted my save but every time i press play the game crashes with no error. would anyone possibly know is causing it?

here is my mod list if anyone is curious ig

sterile hornet
copper knot
#

that worked for me

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also check for -main suffix in other folders

vale arch
#

ty

copper knot
#

you want to remove them

vale arch
#

which sub folders should i be looking inor all of them

swift matrix
vale arch
#

weird cause i saw someone playing it with other mods earlier today + i removed other mods and it still crashed on play. i can try removing it

swift matrix
#

Are any of the mods or steamodded nested?

vale arch
#

i have no idea what that means

swift matrix
vale arch
#

former, mod/mod/files

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removing the archipelgo mod did fix it tho

#

thank you

swift matrix
#

It should be the latter

vale arch
#

wait ok just to make sure

its not balatro/mod/mod name extra folder thing/files

i just put all the files in my mod folder?

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wouldnt that also conflict with mods with asset folder or am i dumb

elfin raft
#

Hey thank you everyone for helping! I finally figured out the problem. I didn't realize that bitdefender was blocking the action.

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I spent hours trying every little thing and didn't even think to start there 😅

swift matrix
vale arch
#

oh i dont have 2 lyaers sorry for being confused

swift matrix
#

Np

vale arch
#

i think my issue was with the ap mod since it wasnt working when it was the only thing i had installed. i contacted the devs about it

ty for helping me out

vale arch
#

ok i figured out how to get it working the ap mod is a bit silly installing wise

mossy ledge
#

anyone know how to change the initial joker cap?

brisk seal
#

yes

mossy ledge
# brisk seal yes

oh can you show me if there's a mod for that?as well as if there is a mod for adding initial jokers

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thank you so much

brisk seal
#

I’d recommend looking at black deck code

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And magic deck code

mossy ledge
#

so are they mods?sorry i only downloaded mods sofar, or are they codes

brisk seal
#

Oh

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Debugplus can let you spawn in jokers and antimatter voucher

mossy ledge
#

oh cool

storm forum
floral acorn
#

what are the best mods for more jokers

grand geode
#

The mod with the most content is Cryptid, but if you're looking for the most Jokers only then it's Pokermon

floral acorn
#

ty

honest heart
#

is there any way to release or download mods on mobile?

honest heart
#

cool thanks

storm forum
#

Had played Balatro enough, thought to try and make my own Joker for once... had ideas for one or two for a while.

copper knot
#

that looks cool

storm forum
#

I'll probably rework the look of it as this is a bit of a hacky edit of things together, but this was more of a "time waster" thing so I'm not sure. Still need to figure out how to show a particular value that's returned from a function with the text, but that's for an another time. 😅

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Appreciated, though-

swift matrix
#

Pretty cool

storm forum
#

Should I make more, expect more such old icons to be used.

#

Somewhat involved in old Windows stuff. 😅

sinful scroll
#

does it have any functionality?

lavish pagoda
#

it would be cool if polymino cards were only tied together when you drew them. the lack of flexibility once they're stuck together is too big of a drawback most of the time

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they're a very neat idea conceptually though

sinful scroll
#

its a cool idea but i dont see the use for it

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like at all

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it can be pretty annoying when you go to use a card and theres a bunch of other cards linked

lavish pagoda
#

yeah :[

candid sable
sinful scroll
#

yea makes sense

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theres no productive use of them i dont think

#

theres prolly very niche cases that they are actually useful but

mystic oar
#

i was about to show off this epic effect ingame but apparently in the time it took me to sprite this the code broke

#

awesome

storm forum
ocean rune
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Customizable consumable card

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Like Kazakus in HearthStone

mystic oar
pure slate
#

that impeccabl

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i love it

#

geniuenly

rugged fable
#

What’s its rarity?

mystic oar
#

uncommon

grand glacier
#

Someone should make a purely cosmetic balatro "gambling core" mod that adds this shit to the game

#

Volume warning

gilded vortex
#

Hello, how’s everyone? balatrojoker

candid sable
#

Hello

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It's me

gilded vortex
#

I continue to exist

gilded vortex
river lark
plain hamlet
#

How do I mod balatro it is sooo confusing and scary when you are starting

silk gorge
#

latest version of Brainstorm seem to crash on my mac when rerolling filtered games, and I can't figure out why. The V1 is working, thou, and I'm wondering if it's not a key binding thing, maybe ? If anyone has an idea...

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1491: dlopen(/Users/melvilletilhplunvenn/Library/Application Support/Balatro/Mods/Brainstorm-2.0.0-alpha-1/Immolate.dll, 0x0005): tried: '/Users/melvilletilhplunvenn/Library/Application Support/Balatro/Mods/Brainstorm-2.0.0-alpha-1/Immolate.dll' (not a mach-o file)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.0b-DEVELOPMENT
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1103a-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Steamodded Mods:
    1: Brainstorm by OceanRamen [ID: Brainstorm, Version: 2.0.0-beta, Uses Lovely]
Lovely Mods:
    1: Saturn

Stack Traceback
===============
(3) field C function 'load'
(4) Lua field 'autoReroll' at file 'main.lua:1491'
Local variables:
 seed_found = string: "EFWTDZIH"
 ffi = table: 0x010a917040  {cdef:function: builtin#187, sizeof:function: builtin#193, cast:function: builtin#189 (more...)}
 lovely = table: 0x010a90fee0  {mod_dir:/Users/melvilletilhplunvenn/Library/Application Support/Balatro/Mods (more...)}
(5) Lua method 'update' at file 'main.lua:1457'
Local variables:
 self = table: 0x0116a643d8  {P_CENTERS:table: 0x0129fa8c68, P_CARDS:table: 0x0129fa37c0, FUNCS:table: 0x0116a6a8e0 (more...)}
 dt = number: 0.0217036
(6) Lua field 'update' at file 'main.lua:965'
Local variables:
 dt = number: 0.0217036
(7) Lua function '?' at file 'main.lua:909' (best guess)
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
 func = Lua function '?' (defined at line 880 of chunk main.lua)
 inerror = boolean: true
 deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
exotic shadow
#

Probably best to ask in #1242974974701080617, but I belive that someone needs to compile something for mac

buoyant sierra
#

instead of flames there's just be coins falling from the sky with BIG WIN in the middle of the screen

wanton rapids
#

spawns in one particle for each chip scored

buoyant sierra
#

naneinf particles :pog:

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jen's almanac folk are gonna have a real fun time with this

candid sable
#

what mod is causing everything in consumables collection duplicated (in display but not count)

candid sable
#

Huh

pure slate
#

i fucking love balatro modding

daring sluice
#

flowwey should fix it eventually i think

#

it's a simple fix

candid sable
#

Good to know, at least it's not my sanity broken

daring sluice
#

doesn't affect tmj #bigwin

candid sable
#

😎

tired roost
pure slate
#

it does nothing, im pretty sure

candid sable
#

Can we make it do something?

daring sluice
#

uhh probably not

candid sable
#

Probably stupid question but why not

buoyant sierra
#

removes the amount of chips and mult the card(s) scored would give

rugged fable
#

I’d imagine negative retriggers would just debuff the card

buoyant sierra
#

pot of greed EX: -2 retriggers. increases by 1 every round

daring sluice
#

pot of jokes cryptid 🔥

pure slate
#

i've somehow made a joker that gives more retriggers to cards further down a played hand

#

im so turning this into an actual joker

daring sluice
pure slate
#

neat

daring sluice
#

doesn't mean you can't though 🔥

#

oh wait almanacs retriggers jokers with that effect

#

the card one is based off card rank

pure slate
#

oh i will, i currently have 2 ideas for what it can be

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  • a lop sided jimbo
  • sisphyus
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im thinking the former, and make sisphyus something else

floral acorn
#

there are mods that add more hands like blackjack?

twilit stream
#

I saw Fibonacci adds the Fibonacci and Flushonacci hands

#

You can score it by playing a 2, 3, 5, 8 and A

humble flame
#

whats making packs open all at once?

daring sluice
#

gonna have to elaborate on that

humble flame
daring sluice
#

oh

humble flame
#

and overlap

daring sluice
#

might be cryptid considering the weird stuff it does w tags

#

id assume it's a mix of weird lovely patches that don't work together

humble flame
#

what should i do

daring sluice
#

for one what mods do u have

humble flame
daring sluice
#

yeah uh good luck with that then idk that's like 130ish mods

humble flame
#

i guess im screwed

faint gorge
#

Brainstorm from starting jimbo pack from Neow Blessings mod on ante+1 and now Blueprint from tarot card + that will be shame if I won't make it to ante 8 xD

faint gorge
#

Eclipse Joker is awesome

rugged fable
#

using judgement twice while testing my mod. I would get exactly these two wouldn't I

#

and this is why it can't appear in ante 1 by default

tired roost
#

this shit is so funny

tranquil vessel
#

Gumball and Darwin try to tear themselves away from the internet, but end up falling down the Elmore Stream-hole.

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ocean rune
exotic shadow
#

Have you heard about putting descriptions across multiple lines

fossil iron
#

but yeah, that is good for the cards, the multiple line desc

grand elbow
#

Hi! Im on steam deck and cant seem to make mods run. Here's the mod folder and nothing is nested. I also have the version.dll in the Balatro folder and the command added to the launch options
Can anyone help please?

exotic shadow
#

That's not the correct folder for the Mods

ocean rune
#

most descriptions of potions are short and keep each effect in the same line will help convenient to use mixture

exotic shadow
sinful scroll
fickle latch
#

Is there a thread with instructions for installing the Pokermon mod?

sinful scroll
#

on the github or such

fickle latch
#

Thank you. I don't know how these new discord features work yet haha.

gentle osprey
#

Why do so many code cards just... not work?

fickle latch
gentle osprey
#

:O

fickle latch
#

💩 > magnificus

gentle osprey
#

:O

#

Also a lot of cryptid stuff doesnt work for me

#

The eclipse
Variable
Class

abstract agate
#

does anyone know how to make it so only pokermon jokers show in the shop instead of all jokers

buoyant sierra
sinful scroll
gentle osprey
#

Wow i love how hooked cards break the game and make glass cards not activate

#

Thats hilarous

#

I have no idea wtf happened

#

Hilarous

#

I love how many bugs are in cryptid mod :333333333333333333

#

Am i using like the first version of cryptid why is it so bugged and why does like 80% of its cards now work 😭

white scarab
#

Make sure you’re on lovely 0.5.0-beta6, it’s much less stable on 0.6.0

gentle osprey
#

That makes sense

#

This is more bugged than an unfinished scratch game 😭

exotic shadow
#

me whenver an activly develped mod for a game is not entirely stable

white scarab
daring sluice
white scarab
#

it's not backwards-compatible

#

things like load order screw stuff up

daring sluice
#

makes sense it's a major update

#

somewhat

gentle osprey
rigid jewel
#

Something about it's commits changed the order of injections (SMODS goes before/after when it previously didn't).

gentle osprey
white scarab
daring sluice
white scarab
#

it's the sort of mod I imagine even if/when I stop working on it, people will pick up in my footsteps

exotic shadow
#

I mean SMODS is also in active development and most mods have to do a little updatign here and there to ensure compatibility

gentle osprey
#

Oki :3

daring sluice
#

it's ok to hate the current state of balatro modding because it is kinda meh

white scarab
white scarab
daring sluice
gentle osprey
#

Same thing happened with inscryption imo

#

First few months of modding were awful

white scarab
#

considering that the game's been out for like half a year, I think the community's done great

#

with taking that and putting it into a pretty organized modding system

daring sluice
#

it'll only get better so

#

can't complain

gentle osprey
#

To be honest most of the mods ive seen are extremely unbalanced but ig thats the point, im just too used to things like inscryption mods were they have to be balanced or they will literally get executed irl

white scarab
#

to be fair cryptid kinda skews that perception

daring sluice
#

a lot of mods exist that are balanced

#

i would say it's the majority

white scarab
#

i think most Balatro mods tend to fall slightly above vanilla balance, but not to a breaking point
and there are a lot that are balanced and just general QoL mods

gentle osprey
#

Tbf ive seen like, 3 mods from the community that change the gameplay XD

rigid jewel
#

I think that the more striking mods are generally the ones that try to change the core gameplay of Balatro

#

Or add game-changing stuff

#

At least compared to vanilla balance mods

white scarab
#

I've honestly been stuck in the Cryptid rabbit hole so I'm not sure how good my recommendations would be

#

But I heard good things about Grim

daring sluice
#

im making a mod surrounding a new core mechanic

#

ideally it works out

#

who knows..

gentle osprey
#

Even though cryptid is the most unbalanced thing in existance ive ever seen its extremely fun

#

Misprint deck is hilarous, 100% my favorite deck

#

Also cryptid has this

gentle osprey
daring sluice
rigid jewel
#

66{666}66 Mult is all I remember of Jen's Almanac

white scarab
#

Jen's Almanac is kinda like if Cryptid let you score even higher and break the game even more

gentle osprey
#

I think this is too cheap, unbalanced

white scarab
#

I'd recommend if you're a large number fan

gentle osprey
white scarab
#

Jen's Almanac is like if you're playing Cryptid and smoked whatever they put inside those Meme Packs

exotic shadow
gentle osprey
exotic shadow
#

I've probably spent over 10x time modding balatro compared to playing balatro

white scarab
#

that's super relatable

#

for me it's probably even more skewed

exotic shadow
#

+13 hours in the demo

white scarab
#

10.8 hours of play time is wild

#

a lot of this is leaving it open or testing my code lol

tranquil vessel
#

yeah agreed lol

#

I probably have about 10 hours just in playtesting

umbral pilot
#

honestly I didn't even play the game until two months ago lmao

#

other than working on lovely

#

also sorry about 0.6.0 breaking stuff. let me know if you need help with anything

exotic shadow
old delta
exotic shadow
#

iirc theres an option in pokermon

old delta
#

ah! i see

sinful scroll
#

or do you just remember

exotic shadow
#

it's still in my steam lubrary

sinful scroll
#

how?

#

xd

exotic shadow
#

I think i didn't uninstall it

sinful scroll
#

neither, but it just got removed anyways

#

you able to see the appid for it?

exotic shadow
#

you can get it from steamdb too

sinful scroll
#

found it

#

yea

#

yea thats what i did

#

dont think its possible to download it now

#

no licenses error

#

):

#

i just wanna see my demo hours damn it

#

lmfao what

stone pulsar
#

im not the tech savviest, anyone know why i keep crashing? im trying to run cryptid and saturn simultaneously, im unsure if theyre just incompatible together or if im just being a little dumb

sinful scroll
#

well, you can check if they are compatible by removing one and seeing if the error persists

#

can you copy the entire error and paste it here

#

you can just ctrl c the error page

stone pulsar
#

yeah,one sec
removing saturn fixes the error, havent tried it the other way around

swift matrix
#

And yes most of that is actual playtime. I rarely leave the game running

sinful scroll
#
  • way too much time in the demo
#

i religiously played the demo

swift matrix
#

I never played the demo, which is part of why my early bingeplaying time is on record for the game

#

But I also haven't slowed down all that much, lol

#

The life of an autistic neet

#

At least I can say my modpack gets plenty of playtesting

sinful scroll
#

xd

#

tbh after the demo was dropped from steam i played pirated for a long time

#

but then i bought the game when i was in a better place financially to buy it

minor solstice
#

yeah same

#

i think the ultrakill dev said it perfectly:

sinful scroll
#

ever since i pirated it i knew id buy it at some point i couldnt go without supporting thunk

swift matrix
#

I'm generally not against piracy anyway. But yeah with indie shit you should buy it when you can

minor solstice
#

we should not gatekeep comunnities financially

sinful scroll
swift matrix
#

Agreed to both

minor solstice
#

but i bought it bc i love supporting

swift matrix
#

Which is why I don't get on people's case when they come on here obviously playing pirated. I just think they should have the presence of mind to keep that fact to themselves

minor solstice
#

Devs

sinful scroll
minor solstice
#

piracy is weird. Espically with stuff like saying you do not own games so then is pirace ok then?

swift matrix
#

Lol

minor solstice
#

and then theres stuff like gamdie.com wich is literally pirated indie games

sinful scroll
#

theres some countries, like switzerland, which allow piracy of media

#

well the downloading of it, distribution is illegal

minor solstice
#

yeah

sinful scroll
#

which i think is reasonable

minor solstice
#

yeah keep your crimes to yourself 😂

swift matrix
#

I don't even believe in ip protections to be frank. They only benefit those who least need it

minor solstice
#

yeah i agree

sinful scroll
#

i think spain allows the distribution of media but for no monetary gain

minor solstice
#

ohhh so thats why so many pirated game websites that are true have no ads

sinful scroll
#

could well be

#

though a lot of them will still be illegal distributors xd

minor solstice
#

Xd

#

but also emulation is a big prob with piracy :/

sinful scroll
#

to an extent

#

depends in what way emulation is used

minor solstice
#

yeah cuz if its a disc its super easy to put on your pc

#

but if its a cartridge..

#

uhhh

sinful scroll
#

yeah

minor solstice
#

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

sinful scroll
#

like old consoles

minor solstice
#

nes, n64, satirn

sinful scroll
#

exactly

minor solstice
#

mainly nintendo consoles have issues with emulation

sinful scroll
#

yeah for sure

#

and also a lot of rom distribution

minor solstice
#

the only nintendo consoles that use discs are gamecube wii and wiiu

#

and all are unique

sinful scroll
#

personally i see no issue with emulation of old consoles like the n64 etc

minor solstice
#

yeah

#

the best form of pirace is abondonware

#

cuz its technically not piracy

sinful scroll
#

yeah

minor solstice
#

for example: i have a from of abondonware

#

its called eets

sinful scroll
#

its also more morally correct i think, the original creator of the media has no regards for anything to do with the media anymore

minor solstice
#

yes. That is the most accetable

sinful scroll
#

it kind of just becomes free turf for everyone to use

exotic shadow
#

most normal modded run

minor solstice
#

bruh

sinful scroll
#

awesome jokers

#

4 of diamonds

#

😭

#

negative 6 of hearts

copper knot
#

perfectly normal

sinful scroll
#

looks fine to me

minor solstice
#

What is ur opinion on pirating a game you already own?

sinful scroll
#

as in if you own it on a different platform? more morally correct than pirating a game you havent supported at all

minor solstice
minor solstice
sinful scroll
#

yeah i think thats not too much of an issue

minor solstice
#

ok yeah its kinda grey area in my book

sinful scroll
#

considering an actual copy of the game has already been paid for, it's just on a separate platform

#

yeah it is a bit of a grey area

minor solstice
#

ok

sinful scroll
#

the entirety of piracy is to be fair

minor solstice
#

then the opposite: pirating a game, then when your finacally good you buy it

sinful scroll
#

i think that is also fine, as long as you do plan on purchasing it in the future

#

that's what i did with balatro

minor solstice
frozen heart
minor solstice
#

ah intresting

copper knot
# minor solstice What is ur opinion on pirating a game you already own?

it depends case by case for me
like i am against pirating balatro for pc if you have mobile and vice versa, however lets say I have Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland for the GBA (which sadly i lost the cartage for 😢 ) i would find it okay for me to pirate it to my phone through emulation as I own it

swift matrix
swift matrix
tired shadow
#

Hello everyone (hi again lol)!
I'm new here 😅

I have a few simple questions about Balatro with mods, maybe someone here can help me 🧐

#

So. I play on Steam deck. I have installed several modpacks here, or some mods separately. Overall, I've got the basics down.

#

The question is, is there a way to quickly switch between game without mods and, say, a game with mods?
Because every time I had to reinstall everything and that was long and horrible.

Sometimes I just want to play game without mods, or try out specific mod separately.

grand geode
#

Delete (or rename) Lovely's .dll file

tired shadow
grand geode
#

You might want to keep two copies of the mods then

exotic shadow
#

YOSBR won't work for multiple mod configs

#

you would want to just copy the config folder with your mods folder

grand geode
#

I see

grand glacier
#

unrelated but kinda funny how this game reversed my piracy

#

bought that shit instantly

#

I gave the pirated version to my friend so they can try it out before they buy it.

round ore
#

I would love a mod where you could combine 2 deck's effects

candid sable
#

Imagine 3 decks effects combined

exotic shadow
#

CardSleevesSleeves

candid sable
#

Card Matryoshka

round ore
#

it is a cool mod though

grand geode
#

What do you mean by "isn't quite that"?

round ore
#

it's not really 2 decks effects combined

#

or maybe i'm misremembering how cardsleeves work

cerulean locust
#

It is

#

The quite literal definition

#

Of combining 2 decks

round ore
#

must've misremembered then

cerulean locust
#

And their effects

candid sable
#

You should just try it out

swift matrix
#

all the vanillia decks and a fair amount of mod decks have been made as sleeves

floral harness
#

Hmm, I can't seem to get Lovely (or perhaps Steammodded) to work on Linux

#

I followed all the steps but it just launches unmodded

#

I see the terminal trying to launch stuff on opening but I'm not getting any feedback

#

Seems to be launching fine for Lovely, maybe I did steammodded wrong

swift matrix
swift matrix
#

what's your mods folder look like?

#

wait that stands

floral harness
#

Uh one sec

swift matrix
#

it'd explain why it only works when laucnhed in a wine envioroment and not in proton

floral harness
#

And yes I did add WINEDLLOVERRIDES="version=n,b" %command%

#

The fact that it's not creating a Lovely folder has me suspicious that it's not loading

swift matrix
# floral harness

ds+ is basically built into steamodded now, so you can remove that

#

yeah it... must not be

floral harness
#

Oh fair enough I'll cut that

swift matrix
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and it means lovely itself still isn't running when you launch the game properly

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you're launching it through steam, right?

floral harness
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I'm gonna make a lovely directory manually and see if that works, maybe it's a weird permission thing

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And yes through steam

swift matrix
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but ymmv as always with linux, lol

floral harness
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There sure are a lot of linux users in the Balatro community lol

swift matrix
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are you on a conventional distro or one of those new sandbox-heavy ones? I could see that being the issue

floral harness
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I'm on Ubuntu 20.04

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I'm pretty sure I have steam installed as a deb though... hold on lemme check

swift matrix
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very similar to me then, I'm on Mint 21.3

floral harness
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Yeah it's installed via a deb not a flatpak or a snap

swift matrix
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But yeah if it isn't a deb there might be some weird issue? doubt it though. Steam itself should load its files the same

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lovely is named version.dll and is in the same folder as the balatro exe, right?

floral harness
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correct. I transferred the version.dll straight to the balatro install folder at ~/mnt/Serperior/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Balatro

swift matrix
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my only guess is that... it's actually running balatro from a different library?

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Is that the folder that comes up when you 'browse local files' on balatro?

floral harness
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Correct

swift matrix
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and your balatro is up to date?

floral harness
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Yup

swift matrix
floral harness
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I'm really sure I did... I'll doublecheck just to be sure

swift matrix
floral harness
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I'm on experimental, but I can force it to use 9, see if that works

swift matrix
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I think I am too, so I doubt it;' that. It's almost like the problem is the library's location, but that... shouldn't matter one bit on anything wine-based

swift matrix
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nvm that's only for the appdata

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brainfart

floral harness
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Yeah, it's on the internal HDD instead of the internal SDD my / is installed on. I mean... I could try moving it? It's not like it's very big

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Alright Balatro, you're going from Serperior to Jolteon

swift matrix
floral harness
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"library move failed. Folder already exists"

...

explain

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Hold the heck on

swift matrix
floral harness
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There we go... that was the problem. For some reason a copy of lovely's version.dll ended up in a Balatro folder inside my root's steam folder and it must have confused the heck out of it

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Now I can go back to actually installing mods lol

swift matrix
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ah yeah it must use the same proton environment for any library

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kinda a weird choice tbh

floral harness
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I think I might have done that myself, I was originally installing steammodded and lovely through terminal as a challenge to myself, and I might have accidentally created that folder while messing around

swift matrix
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ah I see, makes sense

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I use the terminal all the time for mod stuff, because I have a mod pack I host on github with all the mods I personally use on it. However I don't clone it directly to my mods folder or anything, just have a seperate folder for it that I copy from

floral harness
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Yeah, it was my first time using the unzip command so I was currently inside the wrong folder so it just made it there

swift matrix
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makes sense

floral harness
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Okidokie, grabbed a few that caught my attention. There's so many more mods since last time I looked

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Uh oh immediate game crash that's not good.

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...from Bunco? Really?

swift matrix
floral harness
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Just these so far

swift matrix
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what version of codex are you using?

floral harness
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Ah okay, I just grabbed it off the github

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There we go, good as new

grand geode
ocean rune
west hill
floral harness
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I started a new run and in my first battle I already feel like I've made a mistake lol

west hill
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Oh no sorry for ping 😭

grand geode
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Death

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I'll need to mess with the ordering of the Moveables but

late ledge
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👀

fossil iron
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Nvm

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I see the description

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She will destroy you eremel

floral harness
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Ping me as you will

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gives a free mega polymino pack

Oh no you don't, I learned my lesson from last time

grand geode
sinful scroll
floral harness
sinful scroll
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:3

floral harness
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Y'know that's fair

west hill
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I think blind tooltips should be a smods feature, yeah

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although they should be centered 😠

grand geode
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Technically not a tooltip, more like an "Enemy Passive"

grand geode
west hill
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I guess, but the passives are displayed in a tooltip!

trail plaza
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does anyone know how to fix this problem? i've been using mods for around 2 months now and i've never had this problem occur.

grand geode
mystic oar
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turn that frown upside down

mystic oar
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sprite from another joker :p

swift matrix
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Ah very fair

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another of yours?

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I don't remember a House MD joker anywhere else

mystic oar
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yeah another of mine

swift matrix
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Damn. I love House but hate runs that aren't flush builds

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maybe flushes containing a two-pair become flush houses too?

mystic oar
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flushes containing a two pair become flush houses too

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i just didnt include that in the desc

swift matrix
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ah makes sense, and yeah, still useful for me then :3

ocean rune
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The larger the booster pack, the stronger the potion card

junior rock
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i would make this a common actually

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it's double oops but only for wheel of fortune

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there's synergy with fortune teller if youve implemented it in a way that it just uses another wheel of fortune

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but thats about it

mystic oar
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theres synergy with fortune teller yah

junior rock
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definitely not worth being a rare over

mystic oar
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also i think it being double oops even if situational warrants being uncommon alone

junior rock
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eh. wheel of fortune isnt even that strong when its guaranteed anyway

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and it'd be more fun if it was common cause it'd actually turn up

mystic oar
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i think common is def too strong

junior rock
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how? it only affects one card and one joker

mystic oar
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i think the edition output by itself is p crazy

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you can probably def get a polychrome pretty early on

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which by common standards is def too much

junior rock
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it's just that wheel odds arent equal anyway

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it's 50% foil, 35% holo, 15% poly

mystic oar
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i still think thats way too good for common

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also it probably wont be as good common because it doesnt work by itself as well as most other commons

junior rock
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but it doesnt work by itself uncommon or rare either?

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gotcha

mystic oar
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yeah but thats standard for uncommons and rares

junior rock
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i just would rather have a slightly overtuned joker than an underpowered one if im going modded

mystic oar
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i am the opposite personally

junior rock
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youd rather have something underpowered? i just find underpowered stuff boring

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because it just dilutes the pool

mystic oar
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i think overpowered stuff is boring beucase it makes the game easy and im a challenge junkie

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but thats like

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personal preference

junior rock
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slightly overtuned

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wouldnt really say that's in the realm of cryptid content, just better than the average content in-game right now

mystic oar
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also weak stuff makes the cooler stuff more interesting yk

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every hawk has its tuah

junior rock
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i feel like thats a bad argument

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if youre making stuff worse just to make other stuff seem better

mystic oar
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why?

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would dna or some similarly good joker be as interesting if every run was full of cracked jokers

junior rock
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if something's weak, it just feels like filler rather than the design choice being 'making it challenging'