U guys still arguing?
#⚙・modding-general
brisk seal
grand geode
hi egg
tired roost
for saying the mod is bad? thats not something you apologise for
grand geode
i was holding onto my mod ping trigger but they fired it first
zenith island
ima go ask my questions in the cryptid discord instead
candid sable
Don't like this guy being around
humble saffron
but then my popcorn is gonna lose 4 mult
umbral pilot
@candid sable, did you figure out the lovely install script?
tired roost
fun fact:
if you hadnt get upset cause of me saing i dont like it, you wouldnt ahve a problem rn
candid sable
<@402093143908155403>, did you figure out the lovely install script?
I do, I used python in my modpack manager
It's not pretty but it works
umbral pilot
that's the best kind of work, nice
grand geode
tired roost
you said you dont like ping, right?
candid sable
......
umbral pilot
can you explain the water thing?
candid sable
Yeah please get out
brisk seal
🍿 anyone want some?
grand geode
there's this cool function on discord idk if you have heard of it
tired roost
can you explain the water thing?
im sure that if you use your 1 neuron you can get it by yourself,
tired roost
would you look at that. as soon as you stopped condeming me not liking it i stopped typing stuff, who could have thourght you had the power to stop it all along
not like i told you
(these messages are the exeption cause i had to point out your problem)
candid sable
m
brisk seal
m
umbral pilot
m
grand geode
m
humble saffron
m
lean dune
m
grand geode
okay got the score capping done
candid sable
Time to go back coding
gilded tulip
Sorry, I was preoccupied
humble saffron
okay got the score capping done
all that for $1 😔
latent nimbus
hello egg
candid sable
Hi
grand geode
yay egg gets $3 sell value
gilded tulip
I'm reading the backlog and we'll see what happens
brisk seal
brisk seal
lol
fiery kayak
LMAO
lean dune
PHAHAHA
i present you with an option.. play the hand, or play the hand
why still have discards though
lean dune
what will it be good for if I want to discard
white scarab
Try playing Golden Needle with this
lean dune
when I'm given the illusion of choice
nocturne lava
Thr right "Play Hand" button obviously plays the cards in hand from right to left.
gilded tulip
fun fact:
if you hadnt get upset cause of me saing i dont like it, you wouldnt a...
Hey, Modlich
For full transparency's sake, I can completely understand not liking Cryptid
it's a mod I personally don't entirely care for either, mainly because it's more of a "why not?" kind of modpack where most ideas are just implemented without regard for the overall experience
It would be fun for a few runs, but then I believe it'd get stale. That's just my opinion
Of course, the message could be better worded (I don't personally think saying "f cryptid" is a particularly neat way of giving feedback) but I, in all honesty, don't see much fault on your end. Until you decided to continue to argue the point, which is what got us here
I understand the need to stand your ground, not saying I wouldn't either in other circumstances, but in this server we'd like to not escalate matters
And some of your responses were relatively crude, to be fair
Consider this a warning to not continue any pointless squabbles like this in the future, just be the bigger person and step away
Otherwise I think you're fine
Now for everyone else
pallid flame
cryptid is funny but i can see how it gets boring
gilded tulip
I hold you all as equally accountable as Modlich here
Modlich has a perfectly reasonable point that the creator was perfectly fine with their feedback
At that point, this conversation should have died
tired roost
Hey, Modlich
For full transparency's sake, I can completely understand not likin...
100% understood. but i have one question.
can i shove the "(...)but I, in all honesty, don't see much fault on your end(...)" part int their faces?
asking politely before i do so as to not cause a commotion
/j
i know i cant
gilded tulip
Don't go shoving it, they can read for themselves
I know the feedback wasn't the most constructive, I know that it looks pretty dickish
But that's no reason to turn this into a full blown heated conversation
Especially after the creator said that it was fine
brisk seal
Modlich has a perfectly reasonable point that the creator was perfectly fine wit...
i think they were referencing my message. (I'm not the creator)
white scarab
no I said that their criticism was fair, even if how they said it wasn’t the best
gilded tulip
Yeah
brisk seal
oh well, k then
tired roost
I hold you all as equally accountable as Modlich here
that sounds so so sweet to hear.
i love when a bunch of people are angry at me and then being told that they are no better.
ok, im off to play some modded minecraft with mods that at least try to be balanced
gilded tulip
Hey, Modlich
just
get out while you're ahead
don't swipe defeat from the jaws of victory
tired roost
i be careful
btw before you go
there is a funny thing i gotta show you
this is a pesron in my chat list
he your brother XD
gilded tulip
There is like
Twelve different Eggs on this server
gilded tulip
no I said that their criticism was fair, even if how they said it wasn’t the bes...
Apologies that this happened around Cryptid, and for dragging you all into this
It's not like I don't understand how this happened
tired roost
bye, im off to the mine of craft
white scarab
Apologies that this happened around Cryptid, and for dragging you all into this
no it’s all good
white scarab
bye, im off to the mine of craft
If you don’t like Cryptid btw, there are many other mods that try and be more balanced, I encourage you to take a look in #1209506514763522108 if you are interested
gilded tulip
People on the internet shouldn't be crude and give constructive criticism when talking to another person's project
I 100% get behind that
latent nimbus
you could argue that cryptid is the streamer mod and the hope that cryptid getting popular = more people get into modding = more mods are made
candid sable
I should also apologize for my misbehaving if any, but I will admit when he insulted my family, I feel so sorry about him
white scarab
you could argue that cryptid is *the* streamer mod and the hope that cryptid get...
^
gilded tulip
but if your want for such an ideal causes a disruptive conversation to the point where a mod has to step in
who, really, is being the more annoying one to the mod creator here?
The one that at least talked about the mod
Or the ones (including the person who gave the feedback in the first place) who are holding an entirely unrelated conversation
white scarab
I think it helps the modding community as a whole, I’ve seen a lot of new contributors come through Cryptid
gilded tulip
I also agree that the way Modlich handled the situation was far from the best
with needless insults and being, overall, not the most polite
but in that case I should've been pinged right as MathIsFun_ said that it was fine
white scarab
Yeah I was debating pinging the mods earlier in the convo but I felt like that might needlessly escalate it
lean dune
you could argue that cryptid is *the* streamer mod and the hope that cryptid get...
In fact I've made that point
it's just things were too heated for anyone to care or notice
gilded tulip
I want to drop the topic now, so in the future:
If you're giving feedback, be polite.
If you're contesting feedback, also be polite.
If you're looking at a contest, ping me.
If you're playing Cryptid, be prepared to earn 0.8$ and try to figure out exactly what that means
Cryptid is still hilarious
even if I won't play it much myself
candid sable
Well, he's off and I don't think he's gonna read these tbh
grand geode
so if i'm hosting a modding contest i would have to ping you?
gilded tulip
Yes, you would
likely just for the permission
especially if there's any sort of prizes involved
white scarab
People have already completely broken it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egln_SVBZY8
(This is a competition not through this Discord btw, which is why I didn’t ping)
gilded tulip
Oh that's ee notation
quartz ether
Sry but how do you install lovely, I cant get it to work
white scarab
Oh that's ee notation
…on the hardest deck
tardy sierra
I feel like once I upgrade to 1.0, Cryptid (or at least the more balanced Cryptid by Myst) will be a permanent mod addition for me.
grand geode
not ascendant stake 
white scarab
I feel like once I upgrade to 1.0, Cryptid (or at least the more balanced Crypti...
We also plan to make our own balanced version of Cryptid eventually
gilded tulip
Well, he's off and I don't think he's gonna read these tbh
This is to everyone involved, not just him
tardy sierra
People have already completely broken it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egln_SV...
𝓶 ❤️
latent nimbus
balanced cryptid would also be intresting though
grand geode
I feel like once I upgrade to 1.0, Cryptid (or at least the more balanced Crypti...
my version is quite lackluster so you might wanna wait until the official balanced version comes out
lackluster as in i've only balanced misc jokers, editions and tags
gilded tulip
What do you mean you haven't balanced the Epic jokers
candid sable
This is to everyone involved, not just him
Thanks for the step in no matter what 🫰
gilded tulip
Likewise, sorry for being late
As fast as I'd like to be, I was held up in a work meeting 😔
grand geode
What do you mean you haven't balanced the Epic jokers
i dont play with them
candid sable
No worries
latent nimbus
is this a rhythm doctor reference
umbral pilot
Thanks Egg, I'll admit that I'm at fault for engaging with their message earlier today. Some things should be ignored
brisk seal
gilded vortex
The video paused to buffer when you clicked the button so I just assumed it crashed the game
knotty roost
how do I change the translation to a custom one?
(like drspe- I mention him here to much, whatever)
gilded vortex
how do I change the translation to a custom one?
(like drspe- I mention him here...
there was the vietnamese fan translation mod
knotty roost
yeah
but I want the words to be diff
like changing the word "joker" into "jimbo" or something
gilded vortex
apparently there were two
anyways if you want a full translation maybe check those
for something simple like that
try Fish
knotty roost
whats that?
knotty roost
nice
rugged dune
i hadnt even considered this but gacha balatro is smth i need
knotty roost
for something simple like that
but I want to make my own 
gilded vortex
so it reads
G.localization.misc.poker_hands['Flush Five'] = "Fish"
I mean you can see how I did it
knotty roost
hm
gilded vortex
There's a localization table so you can access it and overwrite the values
knotty roost
where?
gilded vortex
In the game files
knotty roost
(sorry if I keep asking questions like a dumbass)
knotty roost
k
...
how do I use steamodded for that 🥹
(if you can't keep up with my stupidness, you don't have to answer)
gilded vortex
Like I did in Fish, although nowadays you don't need the init function
You just need to access the correct entries in the localization table and change them
So G.localization.…
knotty roost
k
lean dune
You just need to access the correct entries in the localization table and change...
actually no, it should be in a localization file
gilded vortex
You can overwrite existing text from a separate localization file?
lean dune
else you need to put it in an SMODS.current_mod.process_loc_text() function instead of init
gilded vortex
ok do that then
lean dune
it's a bit jank still if the number of lines is different though
gilded vortex
I ought to update Fish
lean dune
so you might have to blank out any additional lines if that happens, but I really should just fix that
lean dune
of course, i mean additional lines from the original
lean dune
else you need to put it in an `SMODS.current_mod.process_loc_text()` function in...
also just realized i put a _ instead of a . there 💀
corrected
gilded vortex
actually no, it should be in a localization file
should it be default.lua or en-us.lua? Can it overwrite all languages with a single file?
lean dune
either works
it uses default as a first fallback, then en-us if that also doesn't exist
gilded vortex
So this should be all?
knotty roost
yeah I don't even know how to use steamodded
I am just a mod user, first time modder
🥹
lean dune
So this should be all?
obvs still needs a mod file for the metadata, but yeah
gilded vortex
That's not in the localization folder
sturdy canyon
new challenge:
start with 1 Cavendish, to win you must make Cavendish go extinct
Oops! All 6s is banned
you cannot make duplicates of cavendish
fierce minnow
Unsure if this is mod related, but after I got naneinf I exited the game to get food and whenever I restart the game I crash. only mod is Brainstorm mod (which is very goated btw)
fierce minnow
After deleting mods, I continue crashing
gilded vortex
Don’t quote me on it but I think that’s what happens when you exit a run after hitting naneinf
rugged dune
yeah its trying to get your chips / requirement or smth like that
but because it was naneinf its now nil
cant quit during naneinf run
unless
you can make a patch to set the chips to something like 10
then reload the run
fierce minnow
aw shucks
toxic walrus
Unsure if this is mod related, but after I got naneinf I exited the game to get ...
ty <3
fierce minnow
is there anything I can do to get it back? It was unseeded I wanted to get a hand size high score
toxic walrus
yes
toxic walrus
I don't have the link on me right now, but there's a website you can edit your save file.
fierce minnow
tysm for making it
toxic walrus
you would need to edit the save file so that your chip/mult is not naneinf
fierce minnow
can I do that in my game folder?
toxic walrus
no, it's a custom file type
you need to use a decoder
here
could you send your save file?
toxic walrus
yeah, but idk if i can save it ngl.
bc i cant parse it to json due to the error causing the crash.
fierce minnow
I have save states from earlier in the run can I get to those somehow?
toxic walrus
yeah of course
does your game crash instantly?
or only when you load the game file
rugged dune
the latter?
toxic walrus
can I open a save state from a different game file?
yes
fierce minnow
latter lmao
rugged dune
hes just climbing dw
toxic walrus
well, you'll ovewrite it
just remove the save for this run from the profile folder
don't replace it with anything.
then you can load up the game as normal, and load the save state
toxic walrus
u dont need to
fierce minnow
I delete the saves from my folder but every time I boot up the game, they come back
holy shit im back in ante 16 lets go tysm
lean dune
steam cloud sync be like
tired roost
is there a mod that added to the actual Tarot cards?
cause if yes, then it's missing the point entirely
gilded vortex
What does that mean
tardy sierra
What's the mod that allows it to go past e380 or whatever, Talisman, is it?
Because...well...
First time breaking Infinity, lmao.
rugged dune
What does that mean
im assuming its because tarot cards already exist, so making your own doesnt make sense because they arent real?
this guy hates fun or smth
rugged dune
What's the mod that allows it to go past e380 or whatever, Talisman, is it?
talisman yeah
lean dune
adding extra major arcana sure isn't exclusive to balatro mods
there's no missing the point in creativity imo
rugged dune
i 100% agree
i wasnt saying more cards that dont exist are dumb myself
otherwise why would i even be modding lol
lean dune
yeah no i got what you said
rugged dune
SMODS.Perk = SMODS.Center:extend { why is this so hard to figure out 😔
lean dune
so aren't perks basically enhancements?
lean dune
then I'd experiment with making them subordinates of SMODS.Enhancement
you can still separate the pools
but keep existing functionality
rugged dune
that sounds like itd be easier actually
lean dune
you can still separate the pools
this can be done either with inject functions (discarding the parent class's function) or by changing the set (might cause other issues from not being recognized as a playing card anymore)
so the former is likely better
tired roost
finaly did plasma on orange, and can get to my first of erratic
tardy sierra
finaly did plasma on orange, and can get to my first of erratic
Mhm. Question is though, why would Erratic exist if it's illegal to bring in a deck of randomized cards?
rugged dune
💀
gilded vortex
im assuming its because tarot cards already exist, so making your own doesnt mak...
I thought it was like, adding to the existing tarot cards
gilded vortex
`SMODS.Perk = SMODS.Center:extend {` why is this so hard to figure out 😔
Are Disenhancements Centers or Enhancements?
rugged dune
yeah youre not supposed to because theres already 78 of them and no more
its dumb either way lol
uh
good question
gilded vortex
I think they were Centers but I imagine maybe they could be Enhancements
rugged dune
disenhacements didnt work for me at all so im not sure
gilded vortex
I just don’t want them to be able to be generated randomly
gilded vortex
disenhacements didnt work for me at all so im not sure
I think it was for 0.9.8? Not sure
rugged dune
ah that might be why
i think for enhancements you can do in_pool = function() return false end
that seems to work for my current ones
rugged dune
i got this and havent seen a single one in shop or standard packs
then when you open one of my custom packs it randomly addds them
gilded vortex
Oh I know that should work
rugged dune
if thats helpful info at all
gilded vortex
I wasn’t talking about that specifically
rugged dune
ah mb
tired roost
I thought it was like, adding to the existing tarot cards
exactly what i meant.
adding new tarots makes no sense cause there is only 21 of them
rugged dune
💀
gilded vortex
exactly what i meant.
adding new tarots makes no sense cause there is only 21 of...
You misread what I said
But there’s more of them
Like nowadays but also historically
rugged dune
22 major arcana for starters
gilded vortex
Minor arcana etc.
gilded vortex
There’s other tarots that aren’t as popular too
And people have made like Tarots but Better
DX I think
Or inverted
Etc.
Also none of this matters
Because people can do whatever they want
rugged dune
i got reversed tarots in my mod
tired roost
And people have made like Tarots but Better
my terror cards
rugged dune
point of modding isnt to be historically accurate lol
tired roost
but honestly, i believe all fears can be slotted into 1 or more of the categories of my Terror
gilded vortex
ah mb
Like, thematically it’s nice that Disenhancements would be separate, but also I’m curious if there could be other side-effects (like mods trying to spawn an Enhancement the wrong way)
tired roost
for every combination of terrors i can give you at least few fears for it
rugged dune
Like, thematically it’s nice that Disenhancements would be separate, but also I’...
that could be cool
like a negative variant of base game enhancements
tired roost
for every combination of terrors i can give you at least few fears for it
(except the all 20, that combo has only 1 fear, and it's anxiety)
rugged dune
by negative i mean bad too
tired roost
by negative i mean bad too
or jsut straight up inverted effects
destory joker, give money
west hill
oh I should get round to writing a poll_enhancement function that respects the pool
tired roost
remove poly fill up the joker sppace
gilded vortex
by negative i mean bad too
Yes that’s their purpose
However
I like the idea of them being only mostly negative
tired roost
destroy 4 number cards, give 1 random
rugged dune
oh so like good disenhancements?
gilded vortex
oh so like good disenhancements?
No, like,
A Disenhancement that makes a card be destroyed after it’s scored for example
It does help thin your deck
rugged dune
oh so like good disenhancements?
sorry i meant ones with some good things about them
gilded vortex
Lemme see the list I had
rugged dune
not straight up good ones
gilded vortex
No those are just Enhancements
gilded vortex
Here’s some ideas I shared before
gilded vortex
but enhanceents are all good
No I’m talking about Disenhancements
Each which should be mostly bad
or all bad
rugged dune
i cant tell if im confused with what youre saying or youre confused with what im saying lol
gilded vortex
I guess we’re both changing rank and suit each round
tired roost
oh so like good disenhancements?
what?
im not talking about giving no new card effects
rugged dune
lol
rugged dune
what?
im not talking about giving no new card effects
im not talking to you dw
tired roost
looked like
rugged dune
ah yes
tardy sierra
-# Obligatory mention of JellyMod here.
gilded vortex
ah yes
So an easy way to make Disenhancements affect cards would be through Blinds and Jokers
Also I think a Stake could force players to pick curses after each Boss
And the Curses can add Disenhancements or do other things
But personally I’d replace the Skip mechanic too
And add a Raise mechanic
Where you get a Curse and a Tag then you play the Blind anyways
rugged dune
raise mechanic sounds fire
gilded vortex
I actually got started on that mod
Back in 0.9.8
But I quickly ran out of ideas lol
Especially since 0.9.8 was more limited
rugged dune
do you plan on picking it back up?
gilded vortex
Eventually yeah
rugged dune
cool
gilded vortex
do you plan on picking it back up?
Are you interested 👀
rugged dune
maybe 👁️👁️
gilded vortex
maybe 👁️👁️
I’ve been thinking about picking up Disenhancements again now that I was reminded of it
Especially if that Eremel PR gets merged
west hill
oh you wanted my enhancement code right
gilded vortex
But I’m not sure I have the motivation and ideas to commit myself to Disenhancements
gilded vortex
oh you wanted my enhancement code right
Ye
gilded vortex
But I’m not sure I have the motivation and ideas to commit myself to Disenhancem...
Still if @rugged dune wants to collab 🤔
rugged dune
yeah id love to
enhancement overhaul?
enhancements, disenhancements, (perk cards?)
west hill
they don't actually use the calculate function to it's full effect at the moment
gilded vortex
I’m only interested in the scope of adding Disenhancements
rugged dune
cool w me
gilded vortex
And, like, adding some way of getting Disenhancements into the game
Perks do seem interesting but like
I’d need to get ideas
rugged dune
yeah the raise mechanic seems hella cool
west hill
but look at this sick effect #1217704157574860810 message
rugged dune
but look at this sick effect https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/12...
oo thats really nice
gilded vortex
but look at this sick effect https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/12...
Cool!
toxic walrus
nice
gilded vortex
Perks do seem interesting but like
I’ve been trying to keep my ideas for the main mod I’m working on not too out there
rugged dune
quite different from what i do, i think of a cool idea and i just add it
even if its not very balatro-y
west hill
I just have too many things on the go at once 🤷♂️
gilded vortex
Oh I do that too, but I’ll rework the idea depending on scope and elegance
rugged dune
I just have too many things on the go at once 🤷♂️
thats why i made ceres just an amalgamation of everything im working on lol
west hill
and then I spend too long making stuff look pretty
gilded vortex
Right now they’re Jokers that depend on the hand’s level
I could always make them their own thing later
rugged dune
that sounds pretty cool
gilded vortex
they don't actually use the calculate function to it's full effect at the moment
Replying to this so that I don’t lose track of it
west hill
maybe I should finish balloons
gilded vortex
maybe I should finish balloons
Oh do you not get anything if they float away?
gilded vortex
I was thinking that, as a player, adding a Balloon to a card then having it immediately float away and do nothing feels bad
rugged dune
i have an idea suggestion
hydrogen filled balloon, 1 in 4 chance to explode and you instantly lose the run
west hill
yeah that's waht I also thought of
gilded vortex
hydrogen filled balloon, 1 in 4 chance to explode and you instantly lose the run
coughing baby filled balloon, 1 in 1 chance to play a coughing sound
tardy sierra
Perks do seem interesting but like
Hmmmstddvee.
west hill
welp, time to fix the balloon animation
tardy sierra
More specialized, limited Vouchers that you gain per Blind beaten?
gilded vortex
wh
lean dune
smods 0817a is live, featuring the enhancements calc PR, global sticker fix and played sounds that aren't music no longer forcing the default values (they're not meant to be used for these, so they're just ignored now)
rugged dune
i could breakdance rn tbh
toxic walrus
i could breakdance rn tbh
wat did i just stumble into
lean dune
the error badge lmao
rugged dune
im getting there lol
gilded vortex
Anyways @rigid jewel i might go back to Disenhancements but I make no promises right now. And maybe nekojoe is interested too
toxic walrus
the error badge lmao
straight fire branding
rugged dune
wat did i just stumble into
me breakdancing lol
lean dune
also that's literally a loyalty card
gilded vortex
Also the order of the numbers is screwing with me
Who would order numbers that way
At least make them left to right
toxic walrus
they are left to right
lean dune
they are left to right if you hold the card the right way
gilded vortex
Not in the direction of the card
toxic walrus
the 1 (or what i assume is the 1)
lean dune
rn they're top to bottom
toxic walrus
is slightly left of the 2
lean dune
with the card being short side up
rugged dune
also that's literally a loyalty card
yeah ik 😔
rugged dune
The card is meant to be in landscape mode
card wouldnt fit in landscape tho
rigid jewel
Anyways <@996900001903026176> i might go back to Disenhancements but I make no p...
I guess we can, I'll need to move everything to SMODS.Enhancement (iirc that API was either not ported or didn't exist when initially made).
rigid jewel
Just busy with other stuff
rugged dune
meticulously designed
gilded vortex
card wouldnt fit in landscape tho
I’m not saying to rotate the card, just change the position of the numbers
gilded vortex
No it’s zigzagging
rugged dune
gilded vortex
Not left to right
toxic walrus
if you read it left to right you get 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
gilded vortex
zigzagging left to right is different from left to right
toxic walrus
the 2 is more left than the 3
exactly
victin, forget about the vertical position for a second
lean dune
still it "reads" 24681357
gilded vortex
Exactly
lean dune
which I have to agree is mildly irritating
rugged dune
potato potato
toxic walrus
You don’t read a book moving your eyes up and down
i do
it's called reading between the lines
rugged dune
ooo
toxic walrus
lean dune
what you everyone like you
do mean, reads this buffoon!
gilded vortex
That’s the read
how numbers
rugged dune
please this is hurting my head
words are harder than numbers
you dont even read numbers
you just look at them
gilded vortex
change card or Odie have do again
the nekojoe, else will to it
rugged dune
😭
toxic walrus
what you everyone like you
do mean, reads this buffoon!
thank aud
you
gilded vortex
you dont even read numbers
nekojoe courageously coming out as illiterate for numbers
rugged dune
you dont tho
toxic walrus
he's strong for that
gilded vortex
We’re very proud of you nekojoe
rugged dune
with words you process the word in your head if its a big word
but w numbers you just look straight at them and its in your head
i cant describe it
but you dont have to think about reading numbers
at least not 1 digit ones
gilded vortex
I mean you’re comparing single digit numbers to big words
lean dune
as someone who reads math literature, i have to disagree
gilded vortex
as someone who reads math literature, i have to disagree
where are the numbers in math literature 😭
lean dune
fair point
rugged dune
sorry lol
lean dune
there's not a single number in that sometimes
lean dune
I'll give you that
rugged dune
but if you look at the number 1
you dont think thats the number 1
you just have 1 in your head immediately
lean dune
nah
gilded vortex
The only numbers are π, e, and i
lean dune
i think that's the set containing the empty set
west hill
that's what reading is
rugged dune
but with numbers
gilded vortex
Okay 0 and 1 too sometimes
rugged dune
its just there
toxic walrus
gilded vortex
you just have 1 in your head immediately
When I read a word I don’t think about the word
lean dune
big buffoon if you don't have entire sentences in your head at a time when reading
gilded vortex
And this isn’t even my mother tongue
toxic walrus
yall acting like this is too much to handle 😭
gilded vortex
I think nekojoe just has a skill issue
toxic walrus
rugged dune
but when you read a book
gilded vortex
/j
rugged dune
you follow along w the words
rugged dune
lol
west hill
we are lacking the skill
lean dune
nummbers
gilded vortex
I’m saying the other way around
Both numbers and words are easy
Unless it’s a big number
I think a big word is easier than a big number
rugged dune
yeah probably tbf
west hill
well a big number is actually lots of words I guess
lean dune
noob if you don't look at 1e10##1000 and immediately understand what that represents
rugged dune
no but with numbers like 1 or 2
gilded vortex
noob if you don't look at 1e10##1000 and immediately understand what that repres...
You commented out the 1000 twice
rugged dune
its just instant
gilded vortex
its just instant
so with words
lean dune
You commented out the 1000 twice
this ain't python or some sh
rugged dune
no but its not the same
toxic walrus
You commented out the 1000 twice
no he made it a sub header 🧠
lean dune
no
toxic walrus
yes
gilded vortex
no he made it a sub header 🧠
I don’t think it works without a line skip ## see
lean dune
-# skill issue
west hill
##does it not need a space
gilded vortex
-# skill issue
west hill
oh it does
toxic walrus
##does it not need a space
yes it does
west hill
I am not skill issued
gilded vortex
It needs ## both
toxic walrus
and new line
gilded vortex
That’s what I said
toxic walrus
it is
gilded vortex
Galileo
Galileo
Galileo
Let me go
-# Let him go
lean dune
## hm
rugged dune
blon
toxic walrus
# Galileo
## Galileo
### Galileo
Let me go
-# Let him go
um actually this is not the right lyrics to queen's bohemian rhapsody
lean dune
💀
toxic walrus
☝️ 🤓
west hill
I do have a joker concepted that will pop them
toxic walrus
it looks nice
rugged dune
my cards dont actually score any points
uh oh
wait maybe thats intended
it is now
gilded vortex
um actually this is not the right lyrics to queen's bohemian rhapsody
what this is the correct lyrics for keen’s bohemian rhapsody
who’s this queen
west hill
it just doesn't have an upside yet 🙃
toxic walrus
but i feel like the balloons should be tied to the top of the card
gilded vortex
it just doesn't have an upside yet 🙃
bananas
toxic walrus
it's a little odd with them being just, slapped on
gilded vortex
my cards dont actually score any points
Do they have ranks and suits
lean dune
my cards dont actually score any points
me when i replace_base_card
gilded vortex
Now I’m wondering if aure is one of those people who become math professors at 18
rugged dune
Do they have ranks and suits
no rank no suit
the plan is they dont score
but still activate
gilded vortex
no rank no suit
I think that makes High Card too strong
It’s already like the best hand
gilded vortex
and i wanna make it so you can play it as a 6th card
That does help
lean dune
Now I’m wondering if aure is one of those people who become math professors at 1...
I'd have to hurry up, turning 18 in 2 weeks 😅
rugged dune
lean dune
though I actually have been doing university-level math since 15
gilded vortex
I'd have to hurry up, turning 18 in 2 weeks 😅
Until you turn 19 you’re 18
rugged dune
oh
toxic walrus
Until you turn 19 you’re 18
year and 2 weeks
lean dune
discord timestamps lie
gilded vortex
though I actually have been doing university-level math since 15
Ok 15 sounds too old to become a professor at 18
lean dune
Ok 15 sounds too old to become a professor at 18
indeed
rugged dune
feels bad man
lean dune
buzz sound "aw dangit"
gilded vortex
and youre so much smarter than me
Actually that was my reaction when I first met a math professor who was 18
But also don’t compare yourself to other people
lean dune
but also how does one do that
lean dune
no shit sherlock
gilded vortex
In their case they also had to speedrun a bachelor’s degree because they didn’t have one
But new laws made it so they were required to
So they just did the bachelor in like 1 year or less
I want to emphasize I’m saying “they” because there’s at least 2
lean dune
oh so you mean a doctorate
gilded vortex
Not only for gender neutrality as I usually do
lean dune
i think of professors as actually teaching / having teached at university
gilded vortex
No I do mean teaching
lean dune
oh well
gilded vortex
Although there’s a chance it was more of a TA thing it wasn’t very clear to me
It did seem to be more work than what I did as a TA there
But also the bureaucracy is different and I’m just calling it TA because it sounds close
I do remember the discussion of them teaching while my TA work wasn’t teaching there
Anyways Balloon mod update when
lean dune
that's actually crazy
gilded vortex
I think it wasn’t a full professorship just a temp job
west hill
when someone does art for me
I can release the first draft
otherwise whenever I do art
rugged dune
i did the locked stake someone else got this
gilded vortex
Oh that gives me an idea
I already was going to add a modifier that Locks a card and makes it unable to be played
I just had another idea for how to use them
Like Dicey Dungeons’ Lock
But also
A Disenhancement that locks a card until a condition is met, like playing or discarding a separate card
gilded vortex
I already was going to add a modifier that Locks a card and makes it unable to b...
Correction: makes it unable to be selected
Though if I want to reuse it maybe that’s a bit too much
rugged dune
beautiful
severe timber
guys i need help im trying to get cryptid but everytime i open the game with it installed it doesnt open
west hill
🤔
rugged dune
yippee
gilded vortex
guys i need help im trying to get cryptid but everytime i open the game with it ...
Crash message?
severe timber
no it just doesnt open
ill get like the code screen when i first open it and then the game doesnt open
gilded vortex
beautiful
Oh right, yeah, I think these push High Card to be even stronger since you can stack multiple.
Also the holes shouldn’t be holes, they should be stamps
Because anyone can make holes
You’re breaking my immersion joe
rugged dune
im sorry ill fix it right now
gilded vortex
My suspension of disbelief is shattered
rugged dune
Oh right, yeah, I think these push High Card to be even stronger since you can s...
maybe only play 1 per hand?
gilded vortex
im sorry ill fix it right now
I’m joking; I mean diegetically it doesn’t make sense but it’s a minor detail
gilded vortex
maybe only play 1 per hand?
Still makes Straights, Flushes, Full Houses, and secret hands weaker
gilded vortex
seperates iit from the joker loyalty card a bit
Doesn’t Loyalty Card use stamps too
west hill
how do I make the balloons look attached 🤔
severe timber
@gilded vortex do you know how to fix the problem i talked about?
formal wedge
yum yum
rugged dune
i love the infinite chocolate glitch
once again, art is phenomenal
and the effect is fun too
gilded vortex
<@454101940289142794> do you know how to fix the problem i talked about?
I don’t know what the problem is so no
We need more information
gilded vortex
how do I make the balloons look attached 🤔
Add a little hand holding them
Tie them to the card
severe timber
We need more information
what more would you need?
rugged dune
gilded vortex
what more would you need?
“doesn’t work” is definitely not enough
An error message of some sort is probably enough
west hill
lovely little balloons floating in the wind
rugged dune
so pretty
severe timber
An error message of some sort is probably enough
there is no error message when I open the game it says opening and then nothing happens
i think its some sort of issue with lovely cause even with that alone it doesnt open
rugged dune
you can now only select 1 perk card per hand, but it can be selected as a 6th card so you can play 5 card hands with 1 perk card
rugged dune
do you think it would be better to lock selecting the perk card as an extra 6th card behind a voucher?
and then maybe a follow up voucher that lets you select an extra one but it does take up space
calm glacier
Is there a way to use the negative playing card edition effect from the Cryptid mod without having all the other... "uniquely" balanced content from it?
rugged dune
it has some config options so you can turn off a lot of the stuff
calm glacier
oh neat
keen vector
Man, y'all are making some really 🔥 stuff today
robust carbon
Good balance yeye
raw rapids
game keeps crashing when I just have Smod
rancid ivy
How would I add a Soul texture? The one with the trans mod isn't working
west hill
Is there a way to use the negative playing card edition effect from the Cryptid ...
The negative playing card isn’t a cryptic feature, it’s built in to smods
calm glacier
I'm running Steamodded 0.9.8, is smods its own loader or how do I get that set up
rancid ivy
Am I able to call anyone to see if they can help get the Soul texture working?
rugged dune
whats the problem?
rancid ivy
The crystal's texture isn't appearing from the spectrans mod
rancid ivy
Yup!
severe timber
would anyone know why lovely isnt working for me
rugged dune
outdated maybe?
severe timber
i think im using the most recent version
rugged dune
is the dll still in your folder?
do you get a console window when you boot the game?
severe timber
i get the console window but then the game doesnt open
and then when i try to open it again nothing happens
and it says the application was unable to start correctly
rugged dune
yeah im not really the person to ask tbh
severe timber
is the dll still in your folder?
yeah it is
damn do you know who would know about this?
severe timber
lol i still appreciate it
rugged dune
theres gotta be some people who would know but chat is so dead rn
swift matrix
and then when i try to open it again nothing happens
Did you try reverifying your game files with steam?
You won't need to redo anything after
Also, did you download the latest steamodded alpha?
severe timber
Did you try reverifying your game files with steam?
yeah i tried that but the game still wouldnt open
severe timber
Also, did you download the latest steamodded alpha?
also i just downloaded like all 3 things from the same file
im pretty sure its just a problem with lovely cause even with that alone my game wont open
swift matrix
You need steamodded in your mods folder as if it's a mod
severe timber
yeaha i have that and talisman in my mods folder as well as cryptid
swift matrix
But yeah lovely should still let the game open. Do you have an older version of lovely installed too? With a different filename
swift matrix
Can you screenshot your game exe folder?
swift matrix
Maybe thunderstorm is messing it up?
Besides that looks normal
And yeah that folder is the one I meant
severe timber
it wasnt working even before i got thunderstorm
idk i feel like ive tried everything and it just wont open
feels bad
swift matrix
You didn't add that thing to the instructions that you only do on Linux right?
severe timber
nah i dont even know what that is
swift matrix
Just step 4 here, but it's irrelevant if you didn't do it, which you don't on windows
severe timber
nah i didnt do that
swift matrix
Can you screenshot your mods folder?
If something is double nested it might be breaking it
rugged dune
perk cards now dont take up space in hand
swift matrix
They basically work as negative playing cards?
swift matrix
So is your actual hand size only 6?
rugged dune
yeah
swift matrix
Makes sense
rugged dune
rugged dune
^^
severe timber
swift matrix
And there's not an extra "steamodded" folder in the steamodded folder or anything?
severe timber
nope
swift matrix
Are you sure that you just now added thunderstore? The date fur that file is like a week ago
One more thing I can think of doing is uninwtalling and reinstalling the game completely.
severe timber
yeah thunderstore i added cause cryptid wasnt working already
swift matrix
Hmm very weird
severe timber
ive uninstalled it the only thing i havent done is like a full reset cause im scared of my progress being deleted
swift matrix
Yeah you shouldn't need to risk that
toxic walrus
@rugged dune maybe use the self.greyed flag for cards to use the greyed shader
cuz it looks a bit weird with the edges poking out
zenith island
What would be an example of code that checks to see if you have any base jokers (have no edition)? I’ve tried looking at code for wheel, hex, and ecto, but I’m still too new to this to understand stand what I’m looking at
rugged dune
<@962751075369226265> maybe use the self.greyed flag for cards to use the greyed...
didnt even know that was a thing, thank you
rugged dune
What would be an example of code that checks to see if you have any base jokers ...
local editionless_jokers = {}
for _, joker in pairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if not joker.edition then
editionless_jokers[#editionless_jokers+1] = joker
end
end```if self.ability.name == 'Ectoplasm' or self.ability.name == 'Hex' then
self.eligible_editionless_jokers = EMPTY(self.eligible_editionless_jokers)
for k, v in pairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.ability.set == 'Joker' and (not v.edition) then
table.insert(self.eligible_editionless_jokers, v)
end
end
end```thats what the game does ^^
that looks way better
ty nasty
not quite sure how to time it properly to the grey box tho
rugged dune
also gonna have vouchers to unlock playing a perk card as a bonus 6th card and them not taking up space in hand i think
partly just cos i wanted to do art for the vouchers and also try make them
calm glacier
It’s a 1.0 feature
Does Steamodded 1.0 have a stable release yet? Or is it still like beta/alpha
nocturne lava
Not really a stable release, but I'd say that's mostly because it's still constantly getting updated. It's probably more stable than 0.9.8 ever was at this point, though.
swift matrix
partly just cos i wanted to do art for the vouchers and also try make them
Fair warning a lot of us play with like 100 extra vouchers, so don't expect people to get it most runs
steel halo
guys where do i get the version.dll
swift matrix
steel halo
thanks
swift matrix
Yw :3
rugged dune
Fair warning a lot of us play with like 100 extra vouchers, so don't expect peop...
oh yeah i kinda forgot about that
ill see then
id like to make the vouchers anyway
but maybe have a setting for the vouchers effects to be turned on anyway just in case
robust trout
hey
anyone got experience with Lovely? I've only used Steamodded but require Lovely now, and getting this on launch
Syntax error: game.lua:4: '=' expected near 'Game'
Traceback
[love "callbacks.lua"]:228: in function 'handler'
[C]: at 0x7ffd8eef2fa0
[C]: in function 'require'
main.lua:16: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'require'
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
Verify your files through steam, that's a remnant of using the powershell injector.
robust trout
https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector
latest beta release, and the 2 previous are flagging my Windows Defender and I can't get it turned off long enough to boot up Balatro with these versions in the game files. I went back to previous releases and v0.5.0-beta3 is the most recent one that does not flag up
robust trout
Verify your files through steam, that's a remnant of using the powershell inject...
will do just now thanks
swift matrix
latest beta release, and the 2 previous are flagging my Windows Defender and I c...
There's instructions in the steamodded install guide for how to fix that
You're not gonna want to use the old version
nocturne lava
latest beta release, and the 2 previous are flagging my Windows Defender and I c...
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#about-anti-virus-issues
Won't run without the most recent lovely beta either.
robust trout
There's instructions in the steamodded install guide for how to fix that
ohhhh I just naively assumed the fix for the issue that trying to install Lovely was a Lovely problem hahaha my bad
swift matrix
It is, but lovely just lacks the documentation atm, lol
robust trout
ahh fair
robust trout
It is, but lovely just lacks the documentation atm, lol
Hmm... newest Lovely in here, exception in Windows Defender accordingly... I shall tackle this tomorrow I reckon. I need my bed haha
nocturne lava
Did you not verify your files or reuse the PS injector, by any chance?
robust trout
verified files through steam, right click verify integrity right?
nocturne lava
Yeah, did it replace any files?
robust trout
not to my knowledge but will try find out
i don't think so unless it was tiny and downloaded so fast I didn't notice 😂
oh - progress
nocturne lava
Do you have any mods installed?
robust trout
yeah think i might just start over with Steamodded AND Lovely from the get go, rather than what I did which was not think I needed Lovely til later on and now trying to add it and Balatro's shat the bed haha
appreciate the help ❤️
nocturne lava
Fair enough.
plush oar
Hey all! I just clicked download on the Steammodded installer but my computer thinks its a virus. any insight?
nocturne lava
muted osprey
ill see then
Hi, sorry I have to call you in again. But I tried doing Joker Stencil and I'm getting this error:
[SMODS upgrademod "upgrademod.lua"]:500: function arguments expected near 'function'
shadow python
Yall I never modded a game before is this game hard to make mods for
nocturne lava
This has to do with localization/languages, and, it's very odd, because I have no idea what mod could be causing it. I'd suggest first throwing those 3 various .lua files into a folder, and then maybe try disabling JokerDisplay, because that's the only one from those I could imagine doing anything with a localization file.
calm glacier
I literally tried running it with just Lovely and Steamodded and it still threw the error
with only Lovely it does not occur
nocturne lava
Yall I never modded a game before is this game hard to make mods for
I wouldn't say it's hard, but, it can differ from person to person. I'm assuming you're talking dev, the Steamodded github has a wiki you can read up on, and a folder with some example mods to show you a bit of where you could start.
calm glacier
This has to do with localization/languages, and, it's very odd, because I have n...
funny enough Joker Display was the first one I tried disabling because I figured it seemed most likely the culprit, but it still happens even in its absence
I just reinstalled Lovely version.dll too and same thing
nocturne lava
I literally tried running it with just Lovely and Steamodded and it still threw ...
Very odd, I'd say maybe throw it in #1209564621644505158 , might've been a bad recent update or something. Here's my copy of Steamodded that's a few versions behind, see if it works for you.
calm glacier
that's kinda what I'm guessing
wack
i don't think I did anything weird with my installation of balatro but I guess I'll try reinstalling from scratch
nocturne lava
It works fine specifically until you hover over The World, or any card?
calm glacier
I was running steamodded 0.9.8 before and all I did was replace it with the latest release initially
Yeah, specifically hovering over The World
and presumably other tarots, potentially just the suit tarots
nocturne lava
Are you continuing a run from a different version?
calm glacier
Oh, that might be it
I forgot I had started that run from before
And it would make sense that steamodded is causing the issue since that's the mod that changed
aight well it was a decent run but only at ante 4 with a poly fibbo and a negative eternal gold joker
nocturne lava
Will say, it's probably not a good idea to expect to keep your runs when you update any mods at all, sometimes it might work, but most of the time, probably won't.
calm glacier
I think that's good advice, I mainly just forgot I started this run before I updated since I stepped away between them and now
nocturne lava
No worries. Hope that solves it, and if it doesn't, I at least hope the crash is something that I actually know about.
calm glacier
No worries. Hope that solves it, and if it doesn't, I at least hope the crash is...
Seems like that fixed it. Thanks for your help diagnosing the issue!
nocturne lava
Good to see.
white scarab
wispy siren
how do you mod the game
I'm using steammodded and nothing happens
(mod as in play with mods not code mods )
lean dune
I'm using steammodded and nothing happens
have you installed lovely?
wild thunder
why did i make this
is that alternate dimension obsidian orb
lean dune
https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases this?
yeah, instructions are in the readme
wispy siren
Alr
wispy siren
yeah, instructions are in the readme
nope doesn't work either
wispy siren
yeah, instructions are in the readme
nvm found out why
thanks
runic peak
for some reason lovely doesn't work for me? i just get an error
lean dune
for some reason lovely doesn't work for me? i just get an error
by no means could that ever be enough information
what error are you getting and when?
lean dune
that's all?
runic peak
yup
muted osprey
cool
Hi, did you see my last message? All consumables should be ready now (apart from Familiar, Grim, and Incantation, since I haven't figured out how they would level up).
I tried doing Joker Stencil and I'm getting this error:
[SMODS upgrademod "upgrademod.lua"]:500: function arguments expected near 'function'
Also, the hooked consumables seem to cause the consumables area to shake dramatically. How do I prevent that from happening?
lean dune
yup
can I see your Balatro installation folder? (the one that pops up when you click browse local files on steam, not the save folder)
runic peak
lean dune
where do these rogue TODO and config.lua files come from
lean dune
nope
runic peak
i didnt know what files to delete and which ones to not
lean dune
easiest might be to delete everything, verify game files on steam and reinstall lovely
config.lua, TODO, manifest.json and icon.png are out of place
Also LICENSE
runic peak
so yeah those were probably from uh steamodded
runic peak
ok so it should look like this?
lean dune
ugh yeah... but may I ask why you still have the day-1 version
runic peak
oh its day one
lean dune
current steamodded is built for 1.0.1f and may not work correctly on old versions
lean dune
more likely than not, but I recommend just using 1.0.1f
lean dune
yup
lean dune
got me the installation folder one more time?
runic peak
lean dune
oh nevermind that then
either you have a defective version.dll (I don't know how that would happen), or this is an antivirus issue
runic peak
my version.dll likes deleting itself
lean dune
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#about-anti-virus-issues have a look at this
runic peak
it ewas my antivirus.
runic peak
is there like a mod that gives me infinite joker slots or anything
wispy siren
I have created a very dumb challenge
brisk seal
dumb as in easy or dumb as in hard
wispy siren
dumb as in easy or dumb as in hard
dumb as in absolutely chaotic
It's trying to win 10 times in a row.
The catch? Every run is a random deck with random stake
wispy siren
Is it rng? yes
wispy siren
maybe a bit rng-based but intresting
However, it's rng because of another reason I think
I'm going to do this on a modded save
grand geode
if you're playing with Cryptid i truly wish you luck
wispy siren
Like, sure, I might hit double Gold Stake Black Deck, but that's like a 1/90000 chance
Nah, not doing that
brisk seal
Ascendant Stake Very Fair deck
brisk seal
However, it's rng because of another reason I think
what mods?
wispy siren
what mods?
yes
I don't know what I did to my Balatro except knowing that I did something to it
wispy siren
if you're playing with Cryptid i truly wish you luck
Should I enable Cryptid though?
grand geode
not if you want to win your challenge
wispy siren
looks and sees dependency on Talisman
Well, if I could I would see but as it is Talisman auto-crashes my game
brisk seal
not enough
wispy siren
Any more suggestions?
wispy siren
Alright!
latent nimbus
(very loud at one part)
theres a phase two
grand geode
why isn't there a phase two
latent nimbus
how to sue someone in balatro
brisk seal
oof
wispy siren
2nd run - Yellow deck orange stake to start
Consistency on flushes is a dream that does not exist
latent nimbus
Consistency on flushes is a dream that does not exist
you could go for spectrums
wispy siren
you could go for spectrums
Consistency on flushes
Spectrums are very balanced
And that's a loss - Ante 6 The Wash
brisk seal
oof
wispy siren
My third run - Erratic Deck, Red Stake
A win with special thanks to big man CENSORED
( Was also going to congratulate Magical Girl of Wrath but girl breached so... )
fallow bramble
Train + Banner is epic
west hill
Oooo where are these stakes from?
wispy siren
Probably Cruel Blinds?
sly plinth
Oh right, since there's 16 stakes
My fav is cocaine stake
brisk seal
Do I roll for all 16?
Yes
brisk seal
Probably Cruel Blinds?
Also yes
wild thunder
anyone got goood high score mods
cryptid, on decks other than equilibrium and antimatter
bright comet
and probably disable exotics, and maybe epics
wild thunder
those are very hard to get
tardy sierra
anyone got goood high score mods
Umm...
Betmma's Mods (mainly Vouchers) can allow you to get some pretty insane scores with the right run. I used Real Random to reach vanilla Infinity yesterday.
calm glacier
The negative playing card isn’t a cryptic feature, it’s built in to smods
I have updated to 1.0.0 now, is the negative playing cards thing just something under the hood that other mods can enable or make use of, or is there a way to enable them through steamodded itself?
west hill
its just under the hood
robust trout
got a massive crash dump all of a sudden and I am removing mods one at a time trying to find which is the issue; steamodded and lovely
lean dune
got me the crash log?