#⚙・modding-general | Balatro | Page 140

limber moss Aug 17, 2024, 1:36 AM

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can anyone help me get mods working for a Mac? Can’t seem to get it to work at all despite following posted steps

exotic shadow Aug 17, 2024, 1:38 AM

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Did you get lovely working?

wise bone Aug 17, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Hi all. Trying to install cryptid from a vanilla game and would love some help

exotic shadow Aug 17, 2024, 1:48 AM

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wise bone Hi all. Trying to install cryptid from a vanilla game and would love some help

There's a video for cryltid https://youtu.be/aUr0gXE77rk

YouTube

MathIsFun

How to Install Balatro's Most Unbalanced Mod (Cryptid) [CHECK PINNE...

Important Links:
For some reason, YouTube doesn't want me to put links in the description, so they are also available in my comment.
Lovely - https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/latest
Cryptid - https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/latest

▶ Play video

wise bone Aug 17, 2024, 1:50 AM

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just watched it. im having issues with downloading lovely with widows defender

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it doesnt want to let me allow it

exotic shadow Aug 17, 2024, 1:53 AM

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See https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#about-anti-virus-issues

GitHub

01. Getting started

A Balatro ModLoader. Contribute to Steamopollys/Steamodded development by creating an account on GitHub.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 1:53 AM

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if i was aure i think i wouldve gone insane by now tbh

exotic shadow Aug 17, 2024, 1:54 AM

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I mean to be in aure's position pretty much just makes you clinically insane

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 1:55 AM

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honestly

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this ones a bit wordy lol

woven mulch Aug 17, 2024, 1:59 AM

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Does someone have experience modding on Mac? Is it possible to get cryptid running?

exotic shadow Aug 17, 2024, 1:59 AM

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Yes

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Follow the instructions on lovelys githuv repo for Mac to install it and then you can install steamodded, talisman and cryptic the same way as on windows, (but the path is diffedent)

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You should be able to follow this https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#direct-download

GitHub

01. Getting started

A Balatro ModLoader. Contribute to Steamopollys/Steamodded development by creating an account on GitHub.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:05 AM

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muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:17 AM

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Hi, I'm back. I tried to tackle Aura and Wraith, but there are two problems that I noticed:

I set spectral_level to 7, which should give me a guaranteed polychrome on every card with Aura. However, Aura's edition distribution hasn't changed, even though I supposedly modified the poll_edition in common_events.lua.
When I tried to verify the value of spectral_level, I tried using an Ankh on a negative joker. This should have duplicated it and kept the negative, but it didn't.
Also, Judgement's floating joker disappear after exiting the game and re-entering for some reason (the invisible one is no longer present, I've fixed that)

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:23 AM

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try change the patch to before instead of at

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[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "card:set_edition(nil, true)"
position = "at" # before, after, or at
payload = "if spectral_level <= 3 then card:set_edition(nil, true) end"
match_indent = true

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also this patch

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put overwrite = true under it

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:31 AM

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rugged dune [[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = "card:set_edition(ni...

This didn't work. I even tried removing this line entirely, but that also didn't work. Also, in
local card = copy_card(chosen_joker, nil, nil, nil, chosen_joker.edition and chosen_joker.edition.negative)
what does chosen_joker.edition and chosen_joker.edition.negative mean? I tried changing that to just chosen_joker.edition, but that caused it to remove all editions, not just negative.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:32 AM

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change it to false

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function copy_card(other, new_card, card_scale, playing_card, strip_edition)

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chose_joker.edition and chose_joker.edition.negative basically means

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itll check if the joker has an edition

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if it does then it checks the second part of the and

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so itll return true if its negative or false if not

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so that way it only strips negative

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:36 AM

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okay it works now. Ankh problem resolved.

There is still the problem with Aura's edition distribution. I tried to change poll_edition in common_events.lua, but I didn't notice a distribution change, even at spectral_level = 7, where it supposedly should be guaranteed to be polychrome.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:36 AM

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open up your lovely dump and see wha tthe poll edition function looks like

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:37 AM

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rugged dune open up your lovely dump and see wha tthe poll edition function looks like

    _mod = _mod or 1
    local edition_poll = pseudorandom(pseudoseed(_key or 'edition_generic'))
    if _key == 'aura' then
            if edition_poll > 0.85 - (0.15*spectral_level) then
                return {polychrome = true}
            elseif edition_poll > 0.5 - (0.1*spectral_level) then
                return {holo = true}
            else
                return {foil = true}
            end
    elseif _key == 'wheel_of_fortune' then
            if edition_poll > 0.85 - (0.15*tarot_level) then
                return {polychrome = true}
            elseif edition_poll > 0.5 - (0.1*tarot_level) then
                return {holo = true}
            else
                return {foil = true}
            end
    elseif _guaranteed then
            if edition_poll > 1 - 0.003*25 and not _no_neg then
            return {negative = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.006*25 then
            return {polychrome = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.02*25 then
            return {holo = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.04*25 then
            return {foil = true}
        end
    else
        if edition_poll > 1 - 0.003*_mod and not _no_neg then
            return {negative = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.006*G.GAME.edition_rate*_mod then
            return {polychrome = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.02*G.GAME.edition_rate*_mod then
            return {holo = true}
        elseif edition_poll > 1 - 0.04*G.GAME.edition_rate*_mod then
            return {foil = true}
        end
    end
    return nil
end```

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By the way, I don't actually know what _key or 'edition_generic' means, since _key isn't a boolean

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The ands and ors are really confusing me

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:39 AM

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in lua you can use and and ors however lol

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yeah its strange

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but useful

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and will always return the 2nd thing if its true

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or always returns 2nd if its false

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so you can do some neat things

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in this case the pseudoseed will be _key, or if _key is nil then itll be 'edition_generic'

rigid jewel Aug 17, 2024, 5:40 AM

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poll_edition is overridden by SMODS so lovely patching the function will not do anything.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:41 AM

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thank you

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i had no idea why it wouldnt work tbh

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:46 AM

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Okay! I fixed it now. I did that by defining a new function poll_edition2 (independent from the existing poll_edition) in card.lua which has the modified edition rates

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

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One problem left to go — the Judgement floating joker issue

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:48 AM

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oh are you using the joker buffer?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:49 AM

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rugged dune oh are you using the joker buffer?

"buffer"? what is that?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:49 AM

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have a look at riff raff

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it calcs how many jokers to make

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increases the joker buffer by that amount

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creates the jokers

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then resets the buffer to 0

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:50 AM

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rugged dune have a look at riff raff

this is what riff-raff says

                local jokers_to_create = math.min(2, G.jokers.config.card_limit - (#G.jokers.cards + G.GAME.joker_buffer))
                G.GAME.joker_buffer = G.GAME.joker_buffer + jokers_to_create
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function() 
                        for i = 1, jokers_to_create do
                            local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, 0, nil, nil, nil, 'rif')
                            card:add_to_deck()
                            G.jokers:emplace(card)
                            card:start_materialize()
                            G.GAME.joker_buffer = 0
                        end
                        return true
                    end}))   
                    card_eval_status_text(context.blueprint_card or self, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize('k_plus_joker'), colour = G.C.BLUE}) 
            end

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:51 AM

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yeah you can probably rip like all that code

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just remove the math.min

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local jokers_to_create = mG.jokers.config.card_limit - (#G.jokers.cards + G.GAME.joker_buffer))
if joker_to_create > 0 then
                G.GAME.joker_buffer = G.GAME.joker_buffer + jokers_to_create
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function() 
                        for i = 1, jokers_to_create do
                            local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, 0, nil, nil, nil, 'rif')
                            card:add_to_deck()
                            G.jokers:emplace(card)
                            card:start_materialize()
                            G.GAME.joker_buffer = 0
                        end
                        return true
                    end}))   
end```

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smth like that

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indentation is weird sorry

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:52 AM

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Here is what my Judgement patch currently looks like

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, self.ability.name == 'The Soul', nil, nil, nil, nil, self.ability.name == 'Judgement' and 'jud' or 'sou')"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """
if self.ability.name == 'Judgement' then
  for i = 1, tarot_level, 1 do
    if #G.jokers.cards < G.jokers.config.card_limit then
      G.GAME.joker_buffer = G.GAME.joker_buffer or 0 + tarot_level
      card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, self.ability.name == 'The Soul', nil, nil, nil, nil, self.ability.name == 'Judgement' and 'jud' or 'sou')
"""
match_indent = true

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "if self.ability.name == 'The Soul' then check_for_unlock{type = 'spawn_legendary'} end"
position = "before" # before, after, or at
payload = """G.GAME.joker_buffer = 0
end
end
end"""
match_indent = true```

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but something is causing the floating joker

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:53 AM

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[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, self.ability.name == 'The Soul', nil, nil, nil, nil, self.ability.name == 'Judgement' and 'jud' or 'sou')"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """
if self.ability.name == 'Judgement' then
  for i = 1, tarot_level, 1 do
    if #G.jokers.cards < G.jokers.config.card_limit then
      G.GAME.joker_buffer = G.GAME.joker_buffer or 0 + 1
      card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'jud')
      G.GAME.joker_buffer = 0
"""
match_indent = true```

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try that

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im not if these even causes the issue tbh but it might

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 5:54 AM

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am i cooking

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:54 AM

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for sure

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am i?

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even tho half the effect isnt done yet

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:56 AM

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grand geode am i cooking

it should be called phase :3 tho

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 5:57 AM

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rugged dune am i?

hell yea

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 5:58 AM

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rugged dune it should be called phase :3 tho

no because it does not say phase 3 ingame

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 5:58 AM

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aw

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it should just so it can say phase :3 instead

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oo i should make the different cards have messages when their effect goes off actually

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 5:59 AM

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rugged dune ```[[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = "local card = cre...

unfortunately, that didn't solve the problem

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:00 AM

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im not really sure what to suggest then sorry

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i dont know what causes the bug

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:10 AM

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rugged dune im not really sure what to suggest then sorry

Oh my gosh this works

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, self.ability.name == 'The Soul', nil, nil, nil, nil, self.ability.name == 'Judgement' and 'jud' or 'sou')"
position = "at" # before, after, or at
payload = """
if self.ability.name == 'Judgement' then
  for i = 1, tarot_level, 1 do
    if #G.jokers.cards < G.jokers.config.card_limit then
      local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, self.ability.name == 'The Soul', nil, nil, nil, nil, self.ability.name == 'Judgement' and 'jud' or 'sou')
"""
match_indent = true

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "if self.ability.name == 'The Soul' then check_for_unlock{type = 'spawn_legendary'} end"
position = "before" # before, after, or at
payload = """end
end
end"""
match_indent = true```
I was expecting an `attempt to index global card (a nil value)` but this actually works. The floating card has been suppressed.

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(Of course, by doing this, I broken The Soul card, so I'll need another conditional for that)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:11 AM

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oh right it wasnt overwriting

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good job

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:12 AM

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rugged dune oh right it wasnt overwriting

I also realized, the overwrite = true isn't even necessary; I just had to change the after to at and add local before card.
Usually, this would lead to a attempt to index global card (a nil value) error, but card isn't used outside that if statement

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:13 AM

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you know if you use pos = at it doesnt overwrite i think

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:13 AM

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more testing

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no effects done

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:13 AM

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rugged dune you know if you use pos = at it doesnt overwrite i think

it does

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the overwrite field never actually did anything

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:14 AM

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oh ignore me then 💀

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:14 AM

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it's just a remnant of the way it was maybe supposed to later work at one point

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:14 AM

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grand geode more testing

this shit is so cinematic

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i have no clue

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as you can tell

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grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:22 AM

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Blueprint should count as a diamond suited card

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funny shape

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:23 AM

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i would like to have them count as unique cards, like brainstorm card be a 10 of smth cos of the art

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but i wouldnt really know how to

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because atm they just act as stone cards kinda

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i wouldnt want you to be able to change the rank or suit

unkempt dew Aug 17, 2024, 6:32 AM

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We need archipelago randomiser support for baltro, that sounds so baller

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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rugged dune also this patch

I tried to make Ankh be able to be used even with every joker slot filled if spectral_level is at least 4 and the first joker is negative, but I'm getting attempt to index field edition (a nil value) instead

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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unkempt dew We need archipelago randomiser support for baltro, that sounds so baller

we do have it!

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#1252651252853112936

unkempt dew Aug 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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IT ALREADY EXIST

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LETS GOO

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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yea

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although you need to go to the after dark server to talk about it

unkempt dew Aug 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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hmm?

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:34 AM

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it's marked as 18+ (which is really fucking stupid), so it has to be moved to ap after dark

unkempt dew Aug 17, 2024, 6:34 AM

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explosion

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:35 AM

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muted osprey I tried to make Ankh be able to be used even with every joker slot filled if `sp...

could you send the error

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also this line is confusing me a bit ((#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.config.card_limit) and (spectral_level <= 3)) or ((#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.config.card_limit) and (spectral_level >= 4) and (not G.jokers.cards[1].edition.negative))

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why not just if (#G.jokers.cards <= G.jokers.card_limit and spectral_level <= 3) or spectral_level > 3 then

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:38 AM

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Here is where this line is used:

    if self.ability.name == 'Ankh' then 
        if ((#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.config.card_limit) and (spectral_level <= 3)) or ((#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.config.card_limit) and (spectral_level >= 4) and (not G.jokers.cards[1].edition.negative)) then
            alert_no_space(self, G.jokers)
            return true
        end
    end
end```

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:38 AM

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i see yeah its not like the other can use consumable function

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my bad

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why not just if (#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.card_limit and spectral_level <= 3)

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wait why does it return true

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am i stupid or smthj

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:40 AM

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rugged dune why not just `if (#G.jokers.cards >= G.jokers.card_limit and spectral_level <= 3...

Even if spectral_level is 4 or greater, if the joker slots are full, Ankh should only be usable on a negative joker, not any joker
I tried to check the edition of the first joker, but apparently the edition in G.jokers.cards[1].edition.negative here isn't defined

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:41 AM

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right i see what the in game function does now

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seems like a confusing way to lay it out

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(not G.jokers.cards[1].edition.type == 'negative' might work

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actually

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do

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not (G.jokers.cards[1].edition and G.jokers.cards[1].edition.negative)

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:44 AM

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rugged dune `not (G.jokers.cards[1].edition and G.jokers.cards[1].edition.negative)`

this works

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:44 AM

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👍

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 6:44 AM

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I'll work on Ouija and Sigil next

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:45 AM

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good luck

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 6:47 AM

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im trying to figure out how i should balance this joker

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:48 AM

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it sounds pretty balance already tbh

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might need to be made a bit better i reckon

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maybe uncommon?

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if you compare it to smth like bloodstone

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ofc bloodstone isnt guaranteed

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but its uncommon

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doesnt lose any money

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 6:49 AM

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true true

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:49 AM

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and easier to play 5 hearts than 5 tens

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 6:51 AM

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i was looking at Baron but then i forgot Baron is held in hand not played

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:52 AM

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also baron can be retriggered my mime

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10s have no vanilla way to be retriggered apart from red seals

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i think

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well ig paradoielia and sock and buskin

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but that doesnt really count

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i dont think im one to talk about balancing jokers tbf tho

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grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:56 AM

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rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:58 AM

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ah the phases make sense now

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so do you keep replenishing the hands in game too, or is that just for testing?

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makes it seem like a proper boss fight

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 6:58 AM

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yes

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 6:59 AM

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thats pretty cool

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music is freaking me out tho ngl

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:01 AM

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good

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:02 AM

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grand geode good

not good

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what is lob corp even about bruh 😭

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formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 7:07 AM

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uncommon BEAM (spoiler for like, slightly suggestive art?)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:08 AM

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that art is incredible

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 7:08 AM

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tyty :)

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:09 AM

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rugged dune good luck

I tried to make level 2+ sigil change the suit of all cards in hand to the selected card:

[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "and #G.hand.cards > 1 then"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if (self.ability.name == 'Sigil' and spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and (#G.hand.highlighted >= 2))) then
  return false
elseif (self.ability.name == 'Ouija' and spectral_level >= 3 and (G.hand and (#G.hand.highlighted >= 2))) then
  return false
elseif (self.ability.name == 'Immolate' and spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and (#G.hand.highlighted == 0))) then
  return false
end
"""

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local suit_prefix = _suit..'_'"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and #G.hand.highlighted == 1 and G.hand.highlighted[1]) then
  local suit_prefix = G.hand.highlighted[1].suit..'_'
end"""
match_indent = true```

But I got this error:
`(SMODS _ "core/game_object.lua"):1780: assertion failed!`

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:09 AM

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@lean dune

digital belfry Aug 17, 2024, 7:09 AM

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where can i look for joker templates

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:09 AM

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example mod in steamodded has a few

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:09 AM

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muted osprey I tried to make level 2+ sigil change the suit of all cards in hand to the selec...

um

digital belfry Aug 17, 2024, 7:10 AM

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thanks

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:10 AM

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np

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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rugged dune what is lob corp even about bruh 😭

it's a normal game

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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oh because its not suit

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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about normal people

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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as a normal person myself im surprised i dont know more about it

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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muted osprey I tried to make level 2+ sigil change the suit of all cards in hand to the selec...

i think the format you need it is D_A where first letter is suit and second letter is rank

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so try .suit[1] maybe?

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actually idk if you can index strings in lua like that

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[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local suit_prefix = _suit..'_'"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and #G.hand.highlighted == 1 and G.hand.highlighted[1]) then
  local suit_prefix = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].suit, 1, 1):upper() ..'_'
end"""
match_indent = true```

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try that maybe?

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oh actually

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you might need to do .hand.highlighted[1].base.suit

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:15 AM

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also, I just realized that the local is for that if only, so I probably need to remove the local

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:15 AM

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you dont need the local

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like at all dw

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:16 AM

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rugged dune ```[[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = "local suit_prefi...

try this

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and then

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if that doesnt work

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[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local suit_prefix = _suit..'_'"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and #G.hand.highlighted == 1 and G.hand.highlighted[1]) then
  local suit_prefix = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].base.suit, 1, 1):upper() ..'_'
end"""
match_indent = true```

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:16 AM

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rugged dune as a normal person myself im surprised i dont know more about it

doesn't sound like you're normal then

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:16 AM

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try that

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wow

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when you say its a game do you mean like a standalone game or are you the sole creator of its entirety?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:17 AM

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rugged dune ```[[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = "local suit_prefi...

and if that does work then

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[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local suit_prefix = _suit..'_'"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and #G.hand.highlighted == 1 and G.hand.highlighted[1]) then
  local suit_prefix = G.hand.highlighted[1].base.suit..'_'
end"""
match_indent = true```

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try that

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:18 AM

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rugged dune when you say its a game do you mean like a standalone game or are you the sole c...

standalone game, https://store.steampowered.com/app/568220/Lobotomy_Corporation__Monster_Management_Simulation/

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:18 AM

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no way this is literally on my wishlist 💀

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i swear im stupid

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its like how i didnt connect that flash card the joker is based on flash cards for revising

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:19 AM

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rugged dune no way this is literally on my wishlist 💀

holy shit

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lmao

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:19 AM

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no need for me to buy it tho if i can play it in balatro

digital belfry Aug 17, 2024, 7:19 AM

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probably somebody did this already, if not wow (WIP)

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now to think some important jester place or something

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:20 AM

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am i slow?

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:20 AM

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rugged dune no need for me to buy it tho if i can play it in balatro

the mod is now cancelled, go buy the game

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give jihoon your money

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:21 AM

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lmao

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:22 AM

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grand geode give jihoon your money

ill have to look into it a bit more first

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my money is not up rn

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:23 AM

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rugged dune ``` [[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = "local suit_pref...

I tried this and it still didn't work. In the console, it said:
WARN :: Util :: Tried to call SMODS.change_base with invalid arguments: suit="table: 0x18906b80", rank="nil"

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:23 AM

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i think im out of suggestions then sorry

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doesnt help that i dont actually know what assertion failed means either

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:24 AM

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rugged dune ill have to look into it a bit more first

(personally, don't buy lobcorp if you're not interested in psychological torture, go watch a story summary and buy library of ruina instead)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:25 AM

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no way they got jokers from balatro

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:26 AM

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rugged dune i think im out of suggestions then sorry

However, what I find weird is that this error is happening even when I don't select a card to begin with, even though there is an if statement that means that this suit_prefix = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].base.suit, 1, 1):upper() ..'_' should only occur if I select a card

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:27 AM

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try throw a print in the patch and see if it is getting that far

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:27 AM

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grand geode (personally, don't buy lobcorp if you're not interested in psychological torture...

ive kinda forgotten what games i like tbh, balatro has been the only game ive been playing basically since it came out

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i think ive spent more time on balatro than outside this year

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:33 AM

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mood

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

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rugged dune doesnt help that i dont actually know what assertion failed means either

I think I know what's happening. The first patch is returning false, and if that false is being asserted, it would cause an assertion failed error.
But that doesn't seem right either

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

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can i get some mod reccomendations

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

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idek know what asserting is tbh

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

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rugged dune idek know what asserting is tbh

Though I do know the problem is probably in the first patch and not the second, since even when no cards are selected, it still caused an error

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:35 AM

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steel halo can i get some mod reccomendations

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1271664767345623173 apparently this mod is gonna be absolutely incredible

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its not released yet

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but the guy making it is hot and sexy

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and hes gonna release it real soon i hear

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:36 AM

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alr cool

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any that r out now

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:37 AM

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this is my mods folder so ive actually got no clue

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lob corp seems really cool

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cryptid is a classic

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:37 AM

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muted osprey Though I do know the problem is probably in the first patch and not the second, ...

Here are my files

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:37 AM

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alr cause rn i fuck around with cryptid but i want somthing new

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:37 AM

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https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1255696773599592458

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maybe have a look through this thread

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:38 AM

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rugged dune https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1255696773599592458

so is the pack 70 mods or do i choose one

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:39 AM

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i think you can download them all at once

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:39 AM

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alr

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:39 AM

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i think theres settings for it too

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:39 AM

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okay cool

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:39 AM

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i saw someone say smth about a fine tuned option

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which i assume is the mod pack creator putting together not all 70 mods, but some of them that fit well and work together

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so it might have some degree of customisation

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:40 AM

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okay ill have a look

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:40 AM

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and if you play w a bunch and find some you like ofc you can always just download them seperately

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sorry i didnt mean to keep rambling lol

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nw

#

s

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:40 AM

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muted osprey Here are my files

lemme have a look

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:41 AM

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rugged dune lemme have a look

It turns out, the assertion failed is happening even when both of the patches related to Sigil are removed, which is very strange

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:41 AM

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oh

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:41 AM

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rugged dune sorry i didnt mean to keep rambling lol

nah its fine

digital belfry Aug 17, 2024, 7:42 AM

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eeehh...

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:44 AM

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muted osprey Here are my files

all i know for sure is that its gotta be .base.suit

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if you look at the is suit function in card.lua

#

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self.base.suit

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:45 AM

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digital belfry eeehh...

turning balatro into monopoly :0

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:47 AM

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rugged dune oh

(SMODS _ "core/game_object.lua"):1780: assertion failed!

Here is what line 1780 in SMODS (SMODS _ "core/game_object.lua") looks like:

        use = function(self, card, area, copier)
            local used_tarot = copier or card
            juice_flip(used_tarot)
            local _suit = pseudorandom_element(SMODS.Suits, pseudoseed('sigil'))
            for i = 1, #G.hand.cards do
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        local _card = G.hand.cards[i]
                        assert(SMODS.change_base(_card, _suit)) -- this is line 1780
                        return true
                    end
                }))
            end
            for i = 1, #G.hand.cards do
                local percent = 0.85 + (i - 0.999) / (#G.hand.cards - 0.998) * 0.3
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    trigger = 'after',
                    delay = 0.15,
                    func = function()
                        G.hand.cards[i]:flip(); play_sound('tarot2', percent, 0.6); G.hand.cards[i]:juice_up(0.3, 0.3); return true
                    end
                }))
            end
            delay(0.5)
        end,
    })```
The other error `WARN :: Util :: Tried to call SMODS.change_base with invalid arguments: suit="table: 0x18906b80", rank="nil"` suggests that I tried to turn the suit into a table.

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:48 AM

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its because its not geting a rank id assume

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local rank_suffix = card.base.id < 10 and tostring(card.base.id) or
                                        card.base.id == 10 and 'T' or card.base.id == 11 and 'J' or
                                        card.base.id == 12 and 'Q' or card.base.id == 13 and 'K' or
                                        card.base.id == 14 and 'A'
                    card:set_base(G.P_CARDS[suit_prefix..rank_suffix])``` make sure this bits still in your code

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 7:50 AM

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rugged dune its because its not geting a rank id assume

I think it's a SMODS bug
I tried turning off all of my mods and doing Sigil, and it still went assertion failed
Ouija works fine, just not Sigil

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:50 AM

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mine works

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maybe your steamodded is outdated?

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:55 AM

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rugged dune https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1255696773599592458

with this mod pack why is the mod manager an .exe

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:55 AM

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compiled python

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:55 AM

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alr

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how do i use it

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:56 AM

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i havent actually used it myself so im not sure sorry

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:56 AM

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me neither

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 7:56 AM

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alr allg

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 7:56 AM

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oh yeah

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oh no

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 7:59 AM

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death

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:00 AM

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rugged dune oh yeah

in Bunco this would just be a spectrum house, so nothing too weird

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persuing those cards have the same "rank"

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a spectrum regardless

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:01 AM

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they have no suit actually

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:01 AM

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oh I see

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maybe

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still... colorblind should still trigger, if they act like playing cards at all

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right?

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if I understand it at all

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lol

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idk i stupid

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:02 AM

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rugged dune maybe your steamodded is outdated?

okay, I updated my steamodded, and this bug is patched now. But there's still a problem — even after selecting a card, Sigil is still not changing the cards to the suit of the selected card, and is still picking a random one.

[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "local _suit = pseudorandom_element({'S','H','D','C'}, pseudoseed('sigil'))"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and G.hand.highlighted[1]) then
  _suit = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].base.suit, 1, 1)
end"""
match_indent = true```

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:02 AM

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(I'm sleepy dw, just being silly)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:02 AM

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uh colourblind on playing cards will trigger even if theres no suit yeah

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although it should also be on that sinful joker so im not sure why my code broke :(

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:03 AM

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I don't think I actually remember what colorblind jokers do

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:03 AM

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it just swaps mult and chips

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so that one gives +3 chips for spade cards 💀

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:03 AM

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oh yeah I remember now

digital belfry Aug 17, 2024, 8:03 AM

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digital belfry eeehh...

been thinking of mixing boardgames into balatro. i have no idea how.
skip everyone (uno)
sell this joker = +1 ante, reroll boss blind
tower (jenga)
+(chips/mult), +1 odds (+1 to 1 in x chance on itself) at the end of the blind, 1 in 10* chance to destroy itself
10 (sorry!)
x1 mult, gain x1.1 for every scoring hand that has at least a 10 and an ace
[in sorry, a 10 card lets you move 10 spaces forward or 1 space backwards, if someone has a better idea, please go ahead]

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:03 AM

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so yeah that's... not good

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:05 AM

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so much going on in chat im overstimmed

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:05 AM

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muted osprey okay, I updated my steamodded, and this bug is patched now. But there's still a ...

get it to print _suit rq

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:05 AM

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digital belfry been thinking of mixing boardgames into balatro. i have no idea how. skip everyo...

the uno one is cool idea

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:05 AM

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swift matrix so yeah that's... not good

no its not 💀

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but it is good on other jokers

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so risk reward or something probably

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on another note which art do you prefer

#

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this one^^

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or

#

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this one ^^

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:07 AM

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rugged dune no its not 💀

so yeah I got confused for a second and thought that 'colorblind' would mean suit based jokers would trigger on any suit, kinda like an inverse wild card. I remember now what it actually does, though that would be a cool edition

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:08 AM

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that would be cool but only work on a small amount of jokers tho

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:08 AM

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well... not in the modded scene

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tons of suit jokers out there with things like flounder's mod

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and just the ortalab ones

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:08 AM

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again i dont play with many mods myself so i didnt even consider that

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:09 AM

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not to mention all the other ones mods add that have need a specific suit or suits to trigger

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 8:09 AM

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rugged dune again i dont play with many mods myself so i didnt even consider that

very fair

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:09 AM

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slowly whittling down the to do list for a ceres release

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:09 AM

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rugged dune get it to print _suit rq

nothing comes out
besides, even after replacing the pseudorandom line with the selected suit line, it still gives pseudorandom, despite that line not even existing anymore

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:10 AM

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print(tostring(_suit))

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it might be nil then

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which isnt good

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:12 AM

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muted osprey nothing comes out besides, even after replacing the pseudorandom line with the s...

Is it possible that SMODS overwrites that again?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:12 AM

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maybe

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i havent really messed around w stuff like this so im def not the best person to ask

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thoughts?

west hill Aug 17, 2024, 8:17 AM

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Looks like a potential stack overflow

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:18 AM

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rugged dune maybe

Okay, I found some more info. My "Level 2 Sigil" is basically the same as the Sigil DX from the DX consumables mod
(This isn't really much of a problem, since for most consumables, there will be one level that matches stats with a DX card from the DX consumables mod)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:18 AM

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surprisingly it can only retrigger oncee

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tested it with 5 oops and it retriggered once, and when it did it gave the x chips again

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not sure why or how but it works really nicely

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:19 AM

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muted osprey Okay, I found some more info. My "Level 2 Sigil" is basically the same as the Si...

steal all that code then lol

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i mean

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borrow?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:20 AM

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rugged dune steal all that code then lol

The problem is that the way they did it is the same as the way I did it
(with one exception, made for Bunco compatibility)

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:20 AM

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oh

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youre gonna need someone with a bigger brain than me ngl

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got lazy

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:35 AM

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rugged dune oh

I tried this (in upgrademod.lua), which fixes the problem, but now only Sigil works, and no other consumables work at all.

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:36 AM

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if youre hooking to a function dont put it inside another function

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i think

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also what version of steamodded are you using?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:37 AM

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rugged dune also what version of steamodded are you using?

most recent one

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:37 AM

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i didnt think SMODS.INIT was necessary anymore

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you mean 1. smth right?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:38 AM

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rugged dune you mean 1. smth right?

yeah

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:39 AM

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rugged dune if youre hooking to a function dont put it inside another function

also, what do you mean? I tried to replace only the Sigil and Ouija part, not the whole thing

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I also didn't want to append this function to it, since then it would trigger the vanilla Sigil/Ouija first

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:41 AM

#

  local card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable
  function Card.use_consumeable(self, area, copier)
    local used_tarot = copier or self
    if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' or self.ability.name == 'Ouija' then
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.4, func = function()
            play_sound('tarot1')
            used_tarot:juice_up(0.3, 0.5)
            return true end }))
        for i=1, #G.hand.cards do
            local percent = 1.15 - (i-0.999)/(#G.hand.cards-0.998)*0.3
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.15,func = function() G.hand.cards[i]:flip();play_sound('card1', percent);G.hand.cards[i]:juice_up(0.3, 0.3);return true end }))
        end
        delay(0.2)
        if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' and spectral_level >= 2 then
            local _suit = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].base.suit, 1, 1)
            for i=1, #G.hand.cards do
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({func = function()
                    local card = G.hand.cards[i]
                    local suit_prefix = _suit..'_'
                    local rank_suffix = card.base.id < 10 and tostring(card.base.id) or
                                        card.base.id == 10 and 'T' or card.base.id == 11 and 'J' or
                                        card.base.id == 12 and 'Q' or card.base.id == 13 and 'K' or
                                        card.base.id == 14 and 'A'
                    card:set_base(G.P_CARDS[suit_prefix..rank_suffix])
                return true end }))
            end  
        end
        if self.ability.name == 'Ouija' and spectral_level >= 3 then
            local _rank = string.sub(G.hand.highlighted[1].base.rank, 1, 1)
            for i=1, #G.hand.cards do
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({func = function()
                    local card = G.hand.cards[i]
                    local suit_prefix = string.sub(card.base.suit, 1, 1)..'_'
                    local rank_suffix =_rank
                    card:set_base(G.P_CARDS[suit_prefix..rank_suffix])
                return true end }))
            end  
        end
        for i=1, #G.hand.cards do
            local percent = 0.85 + (i-0.999)/(#G.hand.cards-0.998)*0.3
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.15,func = function() G.hand.cards[i]:flip();play_sound('tarot2', percent, 0.6);G.hand.cards[i]:juice_up(0.3, 0.3);return true end }))
        end
        delay(0.5)
    end
  else
    card_use_consumable_ref(self, area, copier)
  end
end```

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just do that

#

do you know how hooking works?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:42 AM

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rugged dune do you know how hooking works?

Not really

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:42 AM

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basically

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you have the ref

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you redefine the function

#

so whenever the function gets called

#

it calls your new one

#

so you can put code in it

#

and the you call the ref

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so its like

#

you basically can put in your own code that gets run before the original function does

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:43 AM

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rugged dune ```lua local card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable function Card.u...

in this case you have your ref

#

whenever use consumable is called

#

it calls your new function

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if its sigil or ouija itll run your code

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but if its not

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then it runs the original function

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youd forgotten to call the ref function

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so what was happening was

#

whenever use consumable was called

#

it was running your code

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which works for sigil and ouija

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but it didnt call the original function if it wasnt sigil or ouija

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hence why all other consumables broke

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ill draw a diagram

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because i like those

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:46 AM

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So it calls the NEW function, and if it's not in NEW, it then calls OLD, right?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:47 AM

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kinda

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usually what you do is this

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ill find an example rq

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local r_click_ref = Controller.queue_R_cursor_press
function Controller:queue_R_cursor_press(x, y)
    if self.hovering.target.ability and self.hovering.target.ability.set == 'Joker' then
        self.hovering.target:counter_lock()
    end
    r_click_ref(self, x, y)
end```

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like this for example

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whenever you right click

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it calls my new function here

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which does lua if self.hovering.target.ability and self.hovering.target.ability.set == 'Joker' then self.hovering.target:counter_lock() end

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this

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and then it calls the original anyway lua r_click_ref(self, x, y)

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so whenever you press right click

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it does whatever it normally does

#

but my little bit of code gets run before

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in your case

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what you can do

#

is if check if its sigil or ouija then do your own code

#

and if its not then do the old function

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:49 AM

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muted osprey So it calls the NEW function, and if it's not in NEW, it then calls OLD, right?

so in this case yueah

#

#

this is what your code does

#

or it does now

#

else
    card_use_consumable_ref(self, area, copier)
  end```

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with this bit

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without that what it was doing was

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without calling the ref function

#

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it does this

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so all other consumables broke

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i feel like i got a bit sidetracked there

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:51 AM

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rugged dune ```lua local card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable function Card.u...

have you tried this?

#

another example of actual code

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:52 AM

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rugged dune ```lua local card_use_consumeable_ref = Card.use_consumeable function Card.u...

I tried this, but it's giving this error: [SMODS upgrademod "upgrademod.lua"]:384: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 341) near 'else'

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:53 AM

#

local calculate_joker_ref = Card.calculate_joker
function Card:calculate_joker(context)
    self:should_init()
    local ref_return = calculate_joker_ref(self, context)
    self:calculate_counters(context)
    return ref_return
end```

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:53 AM

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muted osprey I tried this, but it's giving this error: `[SMODS upgrademod "upgrademod.lua"]:3...

youll have to repaste it

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i missed an end by accident

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but edited the message to add

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it

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sorry about that

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:54 AM

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rugged dune ```lua local calculate_joker_ref = Card.calculate_joker function Card:calculate_...

basically any time calculate joker is called, it also does smth else

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it calculates counters

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so hooking is good for getting code to run whenever a specific game function is called

#

at least as far as i understand

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 8:55 AM

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Also, I just realized it's base.id, not base.rank

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:55 AM

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ah yeah youll wanna change that too

sturdy canyon Aug 17, 2024, 8:57 AM

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rugged dune oh no

they use smult instead, lol

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card.ability.extra.smult

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:58 AM

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ah

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thank you

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and also thats annoying

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why cant it just be consistent 😭

sturdy canyon Aug 17, 2024, 8:58 AM

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s_mult*

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:58 AM

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my code for that edition is already messy enough

sturdy canyon Aug 17, 2024, 8:58 AM

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ikr

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 8:59 AM

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:(

📎 message.txt

sturdy canyon Aug 17, 2024, 8:59 AM

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this is LITERALLY FOR 4 JOKERS

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WHY??

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 9:00 AM

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not the worst i've seen

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like if an effect is reused might as well just do it once

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:00 AM

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what did i do

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:01 AM

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sturdy canyon this is LITERALLY FOR 4 JOKERS

wait thats not actually bad for me

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the way i do it is change the return

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so it returns mult

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which i have a swap for

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:02 AM

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wait i got it

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 9:02 AM

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betmma abilities bug that hasn't been fixed

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:02 AM

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alr

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does anyone have any mods that increase the amount of stakes similiar to cryptid

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:03 AM

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rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:03 AM

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steel halo does anyone have any mods that increase the amount of stakes similiar to cryptid

not that i know of sorry

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:03 AM

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alr allg

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:03 AM

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rugged dune ah yeah youll wanna change that too

This almost works. The only problem is that Sigil and Ouija no longer checks whether exactly one card is selected, and attempting use either when no cards are selected crashes the game.

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:04 AM

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yeah youll need to add the base game stuff back in

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1 sec

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youll need this

if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' then
            local _suit = pseudorandom_element({'S','H','D','C'}, pseudoseed('sigil'))```

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this bit

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just check the level

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oh wait

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actually youll have to amend the can_use function

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:06 AM

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rugged dune youll need this ```lua if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' then local _s...

In the new one, my if statements are
if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' and spectral_level >= 2 then
if self.ability.name == 'Ouija' and spectral_level >= 3 then
which means if spectral_level isn't high enough, this shouldn't trigger.

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:06 AM

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what did i do this time

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:07 AM

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rugged dune actually youll have to amend the can_use function

I already did that in lovely.toml

[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "and #G.hand.cards > 1 then"
position = "after" # before, after, or at
payload = """if (self.ability.name == 'Sigil' and spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and (not #G.hand.highlighted == 1))) then
  return false
elseif (self.ability.name == 'Ouija' and spectral_level >= 3 and (G.hand and (not #G.hand.highlighted == 1))) then
  return false
elseif (self.ability.name == 'Immolate' and spectral_level >= 2 and (G.hand and (#G.hand.highlighted == 0))) then
  return false
end
"""
match_indent = true```
and Immolate works, just not Sigil or Ouija

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:07 AM

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so when you click on the sigil or ouija card

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does it let you press use even with no cards selected?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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steel halo what did i do this time

you might have to rename one of the mod folders

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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rugged dune does it let you press use even with no cards selected?

yes, and that causes a crash

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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send a ss of your mod folder if you could please

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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muted osprey yes, and that causes a crash

well then your patch doesnt work

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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rugged dune send a ss of your mod folder if you could please

alr

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rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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rugged dune well then your patch doesnt work

otherwise it wouldnt let you press the use button in the first place

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:08 AM

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rugged dune well then your patch doesnt work

but for some reason, Immolate works properly (it doesn't let me use unless I select a card(

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:09 AM

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steel halo

try removing all the -main from the folder names

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have to just installed trance?

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it could def be that if so

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:10 AM

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all of them worked fine then i added these ones

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Trance

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:10 AM

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i know trance uses file reading so thatll probably need the -main removed

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yeah

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:10 AM

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alr

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:10 AM

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muted osprey but for some reason, Immolate works properly (it doesn't let me use unless I sel...

1 sec

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:12 AM

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bru i have no idea what im doing

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:13 AM

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that error im not so sure about

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might be better to ask on the modpack thread

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:13 AM

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alr

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:15 AM

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muted osprey I already did that in `lovely.toml` ```[[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "c...

try putting some prints before the return false's

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just to see if its smth to do w the if statement

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it doesnt look incorrect but im not sure what else it would be

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:18 AM

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theres something wrong with this mod

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:18 AM

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i remember using it forever ago and i could never get it to work

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:19 AM

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hm idk

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:19 AM

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i thought that mightve been me tho

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its only a visual thing i think, so you might just wanna remove it

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:19 AM

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alr i will

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:20 AM

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rugged dune it doesnt look incorrect but im not sure what else it would be

I've fixed the problem by replacing not #G.hand.highlighted == 1 with #G.hand.highlighted == 0 or #G.hand.highlighted >= 2

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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mustve been smth to do with the ifs then

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no idea what

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good that its fixed tho

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:27 AM

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rugged dune good that its fixed tho

Both the higher-level Sigil and Ouija are working now

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But level 1 Sigil and Ouija seems to be broken

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They aren't changing the ranks or suits at all, they just flip all the cards and flip them back without modifying anything

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:29 AM

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rugged dune youll need this ```lua if self.ability.name == 'Sigil' then local _s...

did you add this to your hooked function?

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 9:36 AM

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rugged dune did you add this to your hooked function?

This shouldn't even matter, since the if statement checks if spectral_level is high enough anyway:
if (self.ability.name == 'Sigil' and spectral_level >= 2) or (self.ability.name == 'Ouija' and spectral_level >= 3) then
But now I'm getting attempt to call global 'card_use_consumeable_ref' (a nil value)

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:39 AM

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1 min

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oh its because its spelt wrong

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well its spelt right

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but the game spells it wrong

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put an e in the bottom one

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:49 AM

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help all i did was play a card

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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if youre using talisman it might be smth to do w the big num thing it uses

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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im not

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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ah

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then

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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oh wait i am

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thanks

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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nws 👍

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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i got 4 pages of mods

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:52 AM

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thats a lot wtf

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ive literally just installed cryptid and talisman too for compat testing

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:52 AM

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ik

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dam

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:54 AM

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steel halo

this too many

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 9:54 AM

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it looks like it lol

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 9:55 AM

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dam well ive 282 jokers

muted osprey Aug 17, 2024, 10:00 AM

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rugged dune

okay, I fixed it.

📎 lovely.toml 📎 upgrademod.lua

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 10:36 AM

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🫣

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 10:37 AM

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another banger art piece

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and the effect is super cool too

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 10:38 AM

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tbh, if you can still buy the free packs even once it debt, which you would be able to normally, and probably should be, it probably should be a higher rarity

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Uncommon I'd say

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it's a good effect

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 10:39 AM

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formal wedge 🫣

I think this is the first "ZZZ" post I'm seein, curious what all there is/will be for it

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 10:40 AM

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eye candy

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 10:40 AM

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as in not a real mod?

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or just saying it's good art

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because it is

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 10:40 AM

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tyty

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it is a real mod in fact

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 10:40 AM

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formal wedge uncommon BEAM (spoiler for like, slightly suggestive art?)

^^

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art is crazy

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also

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👀

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 10:41 AM

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formal wedge uncommon BEAM (spoiler for like, slightly suggestive art?)

lmao, not a bad joker though

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 10:41 AM

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think i might be ready to actually release some stuff

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 10:41 AM

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👀

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 10:43 AM

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still loads i want to do

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but i do wanna get something out before i go

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:06 AM

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steel halo what did i do

my ability mod uses something from my voucher mod

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:13 AM

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how do i fix it

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alos can i have help with the evolution mod

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:13 AM

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steel halo how do i fix it

ohh alr

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:16 AM

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cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:16 AM

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steel halo how do i fix it

install voucher mod balatrojoker

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:16 AM

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alr

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ill probably just get all of urs

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 11:18 AM

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cerulean flare install voucher mod<:balatrojoker:1139524811421405224>

You better not start having the voucher mod depend on abillities too :P

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though I know it's still configurable

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so a moot point

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:19 AM

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i wont

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:19 AM

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steel halo alos can i have help with the evolution mod

whenever i elvove a card the ability causes it to crash

swift matrix Aug 17, 2024, 11:19 AM

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cerulean flare i wont

at the very least makes packaging for my mod pack easier

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:19 AM

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how does it crash

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:20 AM

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cerulean flare how does it crash

for example the re roll one i sold it to get a base one then i rerolled and it crashes

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:20 AM

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cerulean flare i wont

this all i need or more

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:21 AM

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you can install all from my repo

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https://github.com/betmma/my_balatro_mods

GitHub

GitHub - betmma/my_balatro_mods: some mods about game Balatro. Use ...

some mods about game Balatro. Use Steamodded (https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded) to load them. - betmma/my_balatro_mods

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:21 AM

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alr so just download them and put them in my folder and ill be good?

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:22 AM

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hmm like this

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:23 AM

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yeah

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alr

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that worked thanks

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:23 AM

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steel halo for example the re roll one i sold it to get a base one then i rerolled and it c...

do you have crash screen for this

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:24 AM

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110 vouchers wtf

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:24 AM

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cerulean flare do you have crash screen for this

no sorry ill try get it

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it just crashed randomly

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:26 AM

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i haven't used evolution mod before 🤔 i'll try it

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:26 AM

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alr its pretty fun

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:26 AM

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maybe update smod

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:26 AM

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cerulean flare maybe update smod

its the newest

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:36 AM

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new joker idea

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"Tranquility"
Equalizes the Ships and Multi (like plasma)

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:38 AM

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@cerulean flare this is new what did i do

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:38 AM

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another idea

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"3 Cup Game"
whenever a hand is played there is a 1/3 chance to swap chips effects to mult effects and vice versa

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wait, no... cause chipXmult is the same as multXchip

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a better is:

When a card scores, there is a 1/3 chance to swap chips and mult

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this way it swaps chaoticaly and can give situations that give plenty of point

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:43 AM

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steel halo <@334525690915323904> this is new what did i do

i don't think my mods have something called mpd_modicon

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:44 AM

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or no, i have a better way for cup game

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move 1/3rd of the bigger score (between chips and mult) to the other one

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so
30x5 -> 20x15

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or no, just
move 1/3 of ships to mult

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theere is little situations where mult is bigger than chips, and whn there are, this would be too op

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:47 AM

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tired roost "Tranquility" Equalizes the Ships and Multi (like plasma)

cryptid has smth like this i think

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:49 AM

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f cryptid.
half of them are broken OP, and other half being unfunny forced jokes, and there is very few good ideas, and even when they are the good idea, they have bad art that in no way fits with the Balatro esthetic

warm niche Aug 17, 2024, 11:49 AM

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can installing mods fuck up your game save?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:49 AM

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tired roost f cryptid. half of them are broken OP, and other half being unfunny forced jokes...

dont let math hear you say that lol

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:50 AM

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"here you say that" XD

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:50 AM

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warm niche can installing mods fuck up your game save?

my saves have never been

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bro i havent slept in a day leave me be

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:50 AM

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rugged dune dont let math hear you say that lol

i assume thats the name of the creator, and he's here on the server?

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:50 AM

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yea

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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HEY MATH!! IF YOU SEE THIS. YOUR IDEAS SUCK ASS AND YOUR ART DOESNT FIT BALATRO

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gtg

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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you're being unnecessary rude

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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gotta get my pacnakes

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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how to get banned 101

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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considering it's a collaborative effort

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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grand geode you're being unnecessary rude

https://tenor.com/view/luna-crunchycat-judgy-gif-10816385895034373873

Tenor

cerulean flare Aug 17, 2024, 11:51 AM

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warm niche can installing mods fuck up your game save?

if you have an unfinished run on a mod stake (higher than 8th), after you remove stake mod game will crash on loading screen

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:53 AM

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myst was it you who made house rules?

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ah yea

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i couldnt find it for some reason

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 11:55 AM

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yea

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 11:55 AM

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redownloading a bunch of mods i used to have

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because it feels like ages since i actually played balatro instead of just making stuff for it

fallow bramble Aug 17, 2024, 11:56 AM

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tired roost HEY MATH!! IF YOU SEE THIS. YOUR IDEAS SUCK ASS AND YOUR ART DOESNT FIT BALATRO

Bruh

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:58 AM

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what?
i genuently dislike this mod, and everyone is praising it like it sthe best hting to happen to balato

steel halo Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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cerulean flare i don't think my mods have something called mpd_modicon

alr

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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like saying the flooding of the orphanage is so great

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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Most people don’t give feedback like that

fallow bramble Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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There're better and proper way to express that instead of saying "L CREATOR UR MOD SUCKZ!!!"

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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most people dont voice the negative opinion, and that goes for everything

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so i compensate for the quiet ones

fallow bramble Aug 17, 2024, 11:59 AM

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Also its has an alright config if there are jokers you dislike

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:00 PM

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There no issue with disliking it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:00 PM

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tired roost so i compensate for the quiet ones

by being louder than i would if more people would be with me

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i dont HATE it, i dont mind people playing it. I'm just balancing the quiet with the loud

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:01 PM

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That’s not necessary and doesn’t actually work. The joker art is getting updated pretty often btw

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To fit balatro style a bit more

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:01 PM

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good

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I'd be glad to do some for ya if you want

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i prefer to act than just complain

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:02 PM

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As for the ideas boing “bad”, could you elaborate on that?

fallow bramble Aug 17, 2024, 12:02 PM

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tired roost i dont HATE it, i dont mind people playing it. I'm just balancing the quiet with...

The way you said it it didn't seem like it

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:03 PM

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tired roost i prefer to act than just complain

Is you make a PR on GitHub, math’ll probably look at it.

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:04 PM

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brisk seal As for the ideas boing “bad”, could you elaborate on that?

from what i seen, it's seams like the idea of the mod is to make the most overpowered and broken jokers possible. It doesn't seem like there is much balancing in there.
and i dislike mods (that goes for all games) that break the core of the game, and are either overpowered, or are completely not fitting to the game at all

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like the original Pokemon mod for minecraft

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thats trash

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Okay well Cryptid, just isn’t for you

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Cryptid is literally branded as an unbalanced mod

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It’s pretty much the point

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:05 PM

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brisk seal Cryptid is literally branded as an unbalanced mod

thats the problem i have with it, not my groove

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 12:06 PM

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cryptid is a sandbox for unbalanced ideas that would usually never work in a normal balatro mod

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if cryptid never existed, something else would

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:06 PM

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i guess this can work as a sort of resume of what my jokers are about

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 12:06 PM

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so i don't feel like it's fair to attack its existence

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:07 PM

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im not attacking it. i just dislike the idea

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it's like making a Minecraft mod that gives you full enchant netherite as soon as you load the game

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i get some people like it

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not my groove

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:07 PM

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Okay

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:08 PM

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JOKER IDEA!

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"Skipping Stone"
All stone cards score between 2-5 times (random)

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:11 PM

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tired roost i guess this can work as a sort of resume of what my jokers are about

my mod is:
Makes sense for it to be/that's a cool idea

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:12 PM

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You should make a forum for it in the modding forum

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:13 PM

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i already have a guy who said they gonne make my art come true, and there isnt yet a build of the mod so i dont see a reason as of yet

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definitly later

west hill Aug 17, 2024, 12:13 PM

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“I don’t like unbalanced cards”
retrigger edition loop lul

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:14 PM

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the edition itself doesnt retrigger unless there are multiple editions in played hand (very rare)
the joker is rare, you aint gonna get it too often

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also, it originates from my collection "Asylium Pack, The pack of insane jokers"

formal wedge Aug 17, 2024, 12:16 PM

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reworked this one's effect

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:17 PM

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tired roost also, it originates from my collection "Asylium Pack, The pack of insane jokers"

about half of these are from Asylium, and other half is from "Anti Pack, The paralel Pack" (some like Lobotomy fit in both)

calm glacier Aug 17, 2024, 12:17 PM

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I think doubling the number of blueprints in the rare pool is unnecessary, but some of these ideas I really like

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Lucky 7s is really neat cuz it resets the slot chance on activation

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:18 PM

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calm glacier I think doubling the number of blueprints in the rare pool is unnecessary, but s...

if im making an anti of brainstorm, i gotta anti the blueprint

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:19 PM

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calm glacier Lucky 7s is really neat cuz it resets the slot chance on activation

this was like, the 3rd art i made. the same day as Gambit, and Frozen

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 12:19 PM

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death 13 is pretty cool

calm glacier Aug 17, 2024, 12:19 PM

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idk if you can modify relative rarity in the "Rare" group

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 12:19 PM

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and the art is great

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lali ho

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:20 PM

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rugged dune and the art is great

how about the new consumable im also making for this mod?

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unfinished

calm glacier Aug 17, 2024, 12:20 PM

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Big Earner being uncommon? does it double interest or only gold from cards?

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:20 PM

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and some definitly need polish

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:21 PM

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calm glacier Big Earner being uncommon? does it double interest or only gold from cards?

all gold.
so 2X intrest, 2X from golden 2X from rocket, ect. ect.
all stuff that gives gold or contributes to the final payout is doubled

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like if you had 2 of them

calm glacier Aug 17, 2024, 12:22 PM

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tired roost how about the new consumable im also making for this mod?

cool, I like the Caretaker album art one and the backrooms one

calm glacier Aug 17, 2024, 12:22 PM

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tired roost all gold. so 2X intrest, 2X from golden 2X from rocket, ect. ect. all stuff that...

It feels like it should be rare imo

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:22 PM

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Caretaker is a genuently changing experiance

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6h of music, that makes you feel the effects of dementia

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:23 PM

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tired roost i already have a guy who said they gonne make my art come true, and there isnt y...

The last message in there was 20 days ago. Not sure if that forum is going to find you a programmer.

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:24 PM

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what?

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i think there is some kind of message slip

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i think we might be talking about different places

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i was refering to #1209506514763522108

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i thourght thats what you meant

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Modding has multiple forums in it

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I found a forum within modding which I believe co-responds to your mod

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 12:26 PM

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JOKER IDEA!

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"Class Clown"
same as the Ace joker but for 2s

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tbh, Black stake is the last one that make the game more fun, instead of just more hard

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when i beat all decks in gold

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i will only play in black

rugged dune Aug 17, 2024, 12:40 PM

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can i get a refund?

latent crescent Aug 17, 2024, 12:48 PM

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Trolge

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Only restarting a day can help

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 1:07 PM

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hmm.... as someone who MAKES games, i dont like the glithced effect visual

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nothing ever glithces to look like that

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if it does, it's you screen not the game

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a better one would be something similar to missprint.
shifted texture, shwoing textures nerby on the sheet, and maybe a displacement of the card itself

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thats how glitches look 99% of the time

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this is realy about as severy of visual glithces you gonna get that 1% of the time

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no fuzzing of textures

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hueshiting and texture misplacment is the most that happenes

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even in corruptions at most it gets clown vomit.... JOKER IDEA!

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"Clown Vomit"
random Joker and random Card in played hand re-activates itself random amount of times every hand played

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a reference to the dark ages of RTC

cursive yew Aug 17, 2024, 1:18 PM

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now what the nope happened?

📎 message.txt

cursive yew Aug 17, 2024, 1:22 PM

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tired roost i guess this can work as a sort of resume of what my jokers are about

where i can get the mod?

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 1:24 PM

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cursive yew where i can get the mod?

@swift matrix still ain't gotten to coding it. so you gotta wait. I'd code it myself if i wasn't already coding a game in a different coding language, and i cant afford to trash my brain with another language

cursive yew Aug 17, 2024, 1:24 PM

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tired roost <@592277811503300619> still ain't gotten to coding it. so you gotta wait. I'd co...

guess i'll wait then

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balatrojoker

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 1:24 PM

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the coding misshaps would skyrocket, and thats bad for progress for the prophecy that HIM told me

fiery kayak Aug 17, 2024, 2:23 PM

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tired roost "Class Clown" same as the Ace joker but for 2s

Not for 6s and 9s?

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The funny numbers?

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 2:24 PM

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no, the point is he sucks in class

fiery kayak Aug 17, 2024, 2:26 PM

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Not like splash though right

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 2:26 PM

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i guess more like stones

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like an invertred hiker?

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"Lazy Joker"

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call that Joker "Workout"

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possible, absolutely, but it's possibel you are the first trying to do it

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it's 100% possible.
just like recreating the entire Mario World in balatro

rancid ivy Aug 17, 2024, 3:03 PM

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How to get OpenCL to work for Balatro?

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:27 PM

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tired roost HEY MATH!! IF YOU SEE THIS. YOUR IDEAS SUCK ASS AND YOUR ART DOESNT FIT BALATRO

voicing your opinion like this is lame, you should apologize. it's ok to critique someone's work as long as it's constructive and realistic, but it's 100% bad to critique - or in your case, insult - the person(s) who made that work.

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:28 PM

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So you read one message and nothing that follows in the conversation?

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:28 PM

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if that message isn't representative of the conversion that follows then you should delete it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:28 PM

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there is a reason there is such thing as message history

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if every message was to be deleted after it's conversation was ninished, the same conflicts would arise again and again

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:29 PM

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That's just rude, not constructive criticism

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:29 PM

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I argue that conflict can be avoided by doing a better job at communicating what we do and do not like.

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so my ask is to do better

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:30 PM

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i had a whole damn conversation with math, he's cool with it, and i fully explained that i was just making up for the people that stay quiet with their dislike to it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:30 PM

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umbral pilot I argue that conflict can be avoided by doing a better job at communicating what...

thats what i was doing, communicating what i didnt like

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:31 PM

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candid sable That's just rude, not constructive criticism

and later i provided all the info on what i would improove with it

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:31 PM

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...

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what did i just walk in to

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:32 PM

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your behavior stinks of redditors

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:32 PM

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A bar

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:32 PM

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tired roost i had a whole damn conversation with math, he's cool with it, and i fully explai...

and it's not fair to hide behind speaking for "the quiet people"

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considering you're likely not representing their opinion fairly in the first place

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:32 PM

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tired roost your behavior stinks of redditors

not getting the whole context, and just getting mad at a single line, maddening out of context

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:34 PM

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umbral pilot considering you're likely not representing their opinion fairly in the first pla...

the chance that there is no other people who think like me about this topic is 0%, especially given that on previous occasions i voiced my dislike for this mod, some people agreed with my points

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:34 PM

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It's moreso that subsequent conversation does not amend what you said in the first place, nor does it absolve you of responsibility to do better

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and my ask is that you do better

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:35 PM

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umbral pilot It's moreso that subsequent conversation does not amend what you said in the fir...

"It's moreso that subsequent conversation does not amend what you said in the first place"
how the fuck does that work?
so people cant say things they dont 100% stand behind for the rest of their life?

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you always have to be 100% serious?

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come on

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Please just cease the debate of any kind. It's not productive at all

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:35 PM

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thats even more redditor stink

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:36 PM

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candid sable Please just cease the debate of any kind. It's not productive at all

watching shows is also not productive, you have a problem with that?
this is called entertainment, and a civil discussion is a great form of it

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:36 PM

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Especially this kind of prejudiced and stereotypical remarks

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:36 PM

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stereotypes exist for a reason

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i seen such redditing first hand

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:37 PM

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I think there's some irony to coming into a space built upon collaboration and respect for fellow creators with that attitude - it's not productive either.

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:38 PM

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ah yes "redditor stink" what a great insult

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:38 PM

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not 👏 everything👏 needs👏 to👏 be👏 productive

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:38 PM

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lean dune ah yes "redditor stink" what a great insult

impactful yet safe in places that could punish for being... outstandingly mean

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same with calling someone a wet wipe

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:39 PM

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imho stereotypes never result in anything constructive

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:40 PM

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thats kinda the point of insults

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:40 PM

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I also think that you're shooting yourself in the foot with this argument

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:40 PM

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which argument?

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there is few that i made here

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:41 PM

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tired roost thats kinda the point of insults

i'm not sure how that helps

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:41 PM

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this is the most dumpster fire i've seen this chat be in

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:41 PM

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The hell did I walk into

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

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I'm sure he is not doing great job standing his ground

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

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robust zinc The hell did I walk into

i asked the same exact thing 💀

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

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lean dune i'm not sure how that helps

mental combat,
opponent being more agitated makes them more prone to mistakes, that can be escalated to a victory

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

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#⚙・modding-general message

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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rugged dune dont let math hear you say that lol

this was a joking response to this

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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what does a "victory" even mean here...

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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what

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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tired roost this was a joking response to this

bro cant get context from 4 lines above💀

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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now you're saying that's a joke

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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didn't seem like a joke thonking

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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yes, there is setup, and punchline, let me write it down

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:44 PM

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you're digging your hole even deeper rn, first you double down on it then you say it's a joke

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:45 PM

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tired roost yes, there is setup, and punchline, let me write it down

Me: "I dont like [stuff made by person A]"
B: "watchout, [A] is here,"
Me (louder): "Hey [A], i dont like your stuff"

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:45 PM

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What a logic

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:45 PM

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ah yes, openly insulting someone and saying it's a joke

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:46 PM

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umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:46 PM

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say something rude, get called out, say it was a joke jokergehalt

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either way I think you should be better in how you communicate

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communication is key, especially in development

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:47 PM

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grand geode ah yes, openly insulting someone and saying it's a joke

subvertion of expectation.
One would assume that if the [A] is nerby, I'd stay quiet as to not insult,

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:47 PM

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...don't ping me.

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:47 PM

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and like, why you people are being offended on Maths behalf?

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he siad he's cool with it

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:47 PM

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How even old are you my good sir

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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~~i think you're mixing up names~~

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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That is another math

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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I don't make balatro mods per say lol

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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candid sable How even old are you my good sir

old enough to screw your mom

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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tired roost HEY MATH!! IF YOU SEE THIS. YOUR IDEAS SUCK ASS AND YOUR ART DOESNT FIT BALATRO

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tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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i have a job

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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white scarab m

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candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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robust zinc m

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lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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you just keep digging deeper huh

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m

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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m(odlich)

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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Also mathisfun
What’s the meaning of your pfp

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:49 PM

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Odd -> 3x+1
Even -> x/2+1

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:49 PM

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tired roost old enough to screw your mom

Do not even dare doing such remarks towards my family

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:50 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/epic-spongebob-epic-spongebob-speedrun-any-percent-geile-klöten-when-imposter-is-delicious-gif-19750086

Tenor

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you ^

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XD

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:50 PM

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white scarab Odd -> 3x+1 Even -> x/2+1

Oh
So slightly modified collatz conjecture
Knew it looked similar to that

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:50 PM

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ohhh that makes sense

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:51 PM

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Looks like somebody's not learning even slightly

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Insulting is never the key to anything fruitful

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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candid sable Looks like somebody's not learning even slightly

what is there to learn from you getting second-hand insulted, when the target said he's ok?
only thing i can think of is you learning to not be insulted by things unrelated to you

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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When did your said target say ok

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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hold on, lemmie scroll a bit

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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fyi mathguy != mathisfun

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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brisk seal There no issue with disliking it

here

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Hmm

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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yeah no

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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holy shit lmao

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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lol

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:53 PM

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that's two different people

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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you can tell by looking at the author of the cryptid repo on gh

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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I do not endorse this Persons behavior

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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see

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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so like I said, apologize and do better.

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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for all i knew, i was convinced thats the person of the mod, as i assumed so via our conversation

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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also I think you've unfortunately lost a lot of trust and respect here

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 3:54 PM

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I literally referred to math in Third person

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:55 PM

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that's where you're wrong, there is no "person of the mod" technically speaking since it's a collaborative effort

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:55 PM

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yeah, you've sideswiped 20-something people

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doesn't seem very fair

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:56 PM

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umbral pilot also I think you've unfortunately lost a lot of trust and respect here

and what does the loss of respect of strangers from the community 7th on my list of places i care about, is spouse to do to me?

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:56 PM

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well... if you want to make mods and get help making them

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heavy emphasis on the "help" part

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 3:56 PM

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clearly you care enough to still be discussing it

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 3:56 PM

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I won't ask his apologies, I don't think he has that in his dictionary

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 3:56 PM

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damn what is going on here

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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humble saffron damn what is going on here

Don’t ask

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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@tired roost dude just chill, if you don’t like Cryptid the least you can do is be polite about it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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lean dune that's where you're wrong, there is no "person of the mod" technically speaking ...

Ton of people are making Deltarune, but Toby is the guy

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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I will let the moderators know if you continue acting like this

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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like personally i dislike the unbalanced shit but i'm not aggressive about it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:57 PM

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white scarab <@808693071474327633> dude just chill, if you don’t like Cryptid the least you c...

i am?
i just think the mod idea of "overpowered jokers that brake the game" is not that fun

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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then you should've said that

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and not #⚙・modding-general message

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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tired roost i am? i just think the mod idea of "overpowered jokers that brake the game" is n...

I get that - the way you’re talking about it though is rubbing people the wrong way

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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whats impoline about "this idea sucks"?

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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tired roost whats impoline about "this idea sucks"?

The entire statement

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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isnt it synonymous with "this idea is bad"?

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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hey meth, two "at" patches targetting the same line should not duplicate the payload right

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:58 PM

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how is calling something bad a bad thing to do?

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thats a logical paradox

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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Because that’s not criticism

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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grand geode hey meth, two "at" patches targetting the same line should not duplicate the pay...

they will unless you replace the line you're matching

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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Like saying “hey your mod objectively sucks” in exclamation points is different than saying “I don’t like the idea of your mod because it’s too unbalanced, and the art style isn’t good”

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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Yeah

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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since each patch runs in more or less a vacuum

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also sorry for reply

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<3

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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umbral pilot also sorry for reply

lock your doors

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(/j)

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 3:59 PM

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brisk seal Because that’s not criticism

when was I saying i was doing critisysm?
i said that i find the idea bad, not that it's general bad. i can see people anjoying it, but its not for me

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:00 PM

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mod, do you want to make games for a living?

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like professionally

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:00 PM

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tired roost when was I saying i was doing critisysm? i said that i find the idea bad, not th...

You didn’t say that tho, you said the mod sucks

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Those two statements are fundamentally different

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:00 PM

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umbral pilot like professionally

i already am

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:00 PM

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yeah but you were just saying it the wrong way
just own up to it and move on, don’t double down on your mistakes

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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even if I didn't enjoy the idea of a terribly unbalanced mod, it still got the modding community a lot more activity and new faces from streamers

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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and i can take someone syaing they dont like my game

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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for me that would be enough of a reason not to shit on it

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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they are like quintupling down at this point holy hell

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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tired roost and i can take someone syaing they dont like my game

Same tbh

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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lean dune even if I didn't enjoy the idea of a terribly unbalanced mod, it still got the m...

It’s really funny seeing streamers’ reactions to the horribly busted stuff

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As well as being able to casually crack naneinf

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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You’re definitely not even the fifth person who I’ve seen being like “this mod isn’t for me”, but your reaction is a bit inappropriate

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:02 PM

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I think it comes back to that, yeah. Mod you gotta work on your communication - you can't speak for others in that way, nor can you effectively explain why you don't like what you like when you open with that sorta statement

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Just do better

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:02 PM

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white scarab Same tbh

🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺
the fanfare is playing they said they dont care about me not likeing it

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/j, for those who cant tell a fucking joke

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:02 PM

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...

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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that's not even a good joke

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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I don’t know how to communicate with this person

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Please just fridge off

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Honestly I only have one thing to say

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grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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I get the feeling that we're about to get hit with the "hur durr I've been having fun here trolling you guys"

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tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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what does that even mean? this joke makes no sense

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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em

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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erm

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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mm

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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that's how inside jokes tend to work

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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tired roost what does that even mean? this joke makes no sense

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lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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look at me making a funny joke: letter of the alphabet

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like wtf

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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also I love how you criticized “my” art when I made a grand total of one joker art

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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white scarab also I love how you criticized “my” art when I made a grand total of one joker a...

isn't labyrinth like mostly computer generated anyway

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:04 PM

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yeah

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I used a maze generator balatrojoker

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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0 it is /j

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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white scarab also I love how you criticized “my” art when I made a grand total of one joker a...

i was referring to the mod as a whole. when you say you don't like a mario game, you are not hating on Miamoto

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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incredible

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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for context @tired roost, math has been here since the beginning. he's pretty fundamental when it comes to balatro mods, especially lovely.

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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don't let them see art for my mod which is just ripped game art that's scaled down to hell

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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tired roost i was referring to the mod as a whole. when you say you don't like a mario game,...

yeah I know :P

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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tired roost i was referring to the mod as a whole. when you say you don't like a mario game,...

I don’t think you really understand what you typed.

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Math you are being too kind

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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I remember for the poker hand example mod, which predates the games release btw, I used a downscaled Google image plopped onto the planet template

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:05 PM

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umbral pilot for context <@808693071474327633>, math has been here since the beginning. he's ...

ok?
people that made nukes allowed for nuclear power plants. dont see your point

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the H-man people made plenty of inventions used to this day

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:06 PM

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white scarab I remember for the poker hand example mod, which predates the games release btw,...

And then that poker hand got added into the game, so I had to change which poker hand I added

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:06 PM

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bestie what the fuck are you talking about

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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grand geode bestie what the fuck are you talking about

just cause someone contributed to somethign great, doesent mean all of their stuff is good

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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tired roost just cause someone contributed to somethign great, doesent mean all of their stu...

actually valid here, but “good” is subjective

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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The only thing people have an issue with is HOW you said what you said

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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white scarab actually valid here, but “good” is subjective

absolutley

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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Nobody cares of you don’t like cryptid

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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I know what you mean, but the way you speak makes it come across like you think it is factual

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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tired roost just cause someone contributed to somethign great, doesent mean all of their stu...

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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tired roost absolutley

getting shitted on by a pigeon sucks, but the parasite in there is happy

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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"shitted" 💀

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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that's never happened to me

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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grand geode

this "myst blind" sucks
every goddamn time when i do a reply ping build...

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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Duh, not to mention some stray guy just singlehandedly flamed this whole community

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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brisk seal Nobody cares of you don’t like cryptid

y'all clearly care, cause this whole convo started cause i said i dont like it

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

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humble saffron this "myst blind" sucks every goddamn time when i do a reply ping build...

god tier reference

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needs a mod

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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tired roost y'all clearly care, cause this whole convo started cause i said i dont like it

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grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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worthy of a blindomancer

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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tired roost y'all clearly care, cause this whole convo started cause i said i dont like it

The issue is HOW You said it

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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umbral pilot that's never happened to me

~~hard to mix water with water~~

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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...

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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you can mix water with water

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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umbral pilot you can mix water with water

but you cant see the difference

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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why are they naming mods after spectrals, are they stupid?
Might as well call their mod Big Blind

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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why are they naming mods after popular games, are they stupid?

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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white scarab why are they naming mods after spectrals, are they stupid? Might as well call th...

Hmmm…….

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Thanks for reminding me drink water btw

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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rr omw to make Joker the mod

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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umbral pilot you can mix water with water

you're clearly not picking up what im throwing

brisk seal Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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You might be on to something

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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tired roost you're clearly not picking up what im throwing

water?

white scarab Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Big Blind for a boss mod might actually be good ngl

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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you can't really pick it up unless it's frozen

humble saffron Aug 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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alright who wants to work on 'lusty joker'

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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but then you can't really mix frozen water with water

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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humble saffron alright who wants to work on 'lusty joker'

LMAO

zenith island Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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white scarab why are they naming mods after spectrals, are they stupid? Might as well call th...

I like the way Sigil sounds 🙃

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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i'm still thinking of the dating sim idea

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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should make a paywalled mod

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Vagabond

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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umbral pilot water?

i can tell you what i meant by my mix metaphor, but i'd have to have the whole server sign a petition they wont report me for being mean

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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is that a racist joke? tf

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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no

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im not like my brother

robust zinc Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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grand geode i'm still thinking of the dating sim idea

Oh no

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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we have advanced ui technology now, it is possible

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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getting shitted on by a pigeon sucks
that's never happened to me
hard to mix water with water

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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L Corp. Myst (no reply pings)
i'm still thinking of the dating sim idea
take my money

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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lean dune > getting shitted on by a pigeon sucks that's never happened to me > hard to mix...

missing a part here

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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ik

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

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is the part the joke?

zenith island Aug 17, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Btw, could someone send the code for invisible joker, I’m on Mac and unzipping Mac’s version of exe files sucks

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:13 PM

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umbral pilot > L Corp. Myst (no reply pings) > *i'm still thinking of the dating sim idea* ta...

i'm paywalling this behind a $100 monthly subscription where you will be sent a demo every month

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:13 PM

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there

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:13 PM

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as long as it's just me then we're good

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:13 PM

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lean dune > getting shitted on by a pigeon sucks that's never happened to me > hard to mix...

yeah, if y'all dont see what i meant, go back to the class

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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water mixes with water

latent nimbus Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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grand geode i'm paywalling this behind a $100 monthly subscription where you will be sent a ...

and the game barely works and has battle passes and microtransations

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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loot boxes! gacha mechanics! everything we could ever want

lean dune Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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still a pretty low tier joke ngl

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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umbral pilot water mixes with water

are you a preschooler, stupid, or criminaly annoying?

grand geode Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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90 pulls for a 50/50 chance to get the rare slightly revealing jimbow skin

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:14 PM

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is there an "all of the above" option?

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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umbral pilot is there an "all of the above" option?

for you clearly

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Why are we still in this oxpoop

latent nimbus Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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grand geode 90 pulls for a 50/50 chance to get the rare slightly revealing jimbow skin

cant wait for those summer skins

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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candid sable Why are we still in this oxpoop

cause i still have stuff to answer to

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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those chances are too high for a summer skin

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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noticed how i havent said stuff unprovoked?

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

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tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

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i too can spam links

candid sable Aug 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

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And you still owe me and math apologies

tired roost Aug 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

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it wasnt unprovoked
it wasnt a part of this convo

latent nimbus Aug 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

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@gilded tulip I think we need to bring an end to this

umbral pilot Aug 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

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latent nimbus and the game barely works and has battle passes and microtransations

this is actually sorta interesting if you can make it meta and not miserable