⚙・modding-general

[lavish jackal]

Again, learning to appreciate your work for what it is is difficult and takes time

[rare shell]

ok back to compartmentalizing my frustration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npgP8pUSd3w check out this epic balatro mod

[lavish jackal]

kills you

this is not balatro

this is.. slay the spire (/neg) (/j)

[cinder sage]

close enough

[strong swift]

balatro is poker sts

[rare shell]

/lh

[lavish jackal]

also i've realized something about tone indicators

[cinder sage]

mod that adds the sts map to balatro

[lavish jackal]

the nature of the medium of text online makes it so that tone indicators take on like, a subtone sometimes

like i can say something in /neg context but not mean it

meaning that i'm using a /neg in a /j context

/j here applies not to the message itself, but to the other indicator

[cinder sage]

the only unambiguous way to use tone indicators is to draw a tree

[lavish jackal]

in other words /j here is used as a metatone indicator

[rare shell]

tone indicators are basically the ectobiology of grammar if you think about it

[strong swift]

what

[rare shell]

/br

[kindred swallow]

/p

[rare shell]

tone indicators but theyre html tags

[shy pivot]

ok good i was like

line break?

[lavish jackal]

hypertone indicators

[strong swift]

please no

[kindred swallow]

Tone indicators but they're only in your head.

[rare shell]

RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD

[shy pivot]

we're just close to actually describing how to talk lol

[lavish jackal]

<j>Tone indicators but they're actually <neg>HTML</neg></j>

[cinder sage]

<j>this is.. <neg>slay the spire</neg></j>
this is.. <j>"<neg>"</j>slay the spire<j>"</neg>"</j>

i got sniped 😭

[grand geode]

yea

[rare shell]

ok now make a new center

[lavish jackal]

<j><pos>chat</pos> <genq>how do i center a div?</genq></j>

[cinder sage]

flexbox

[lavish jackal]

this is a troll typing quirk

we've invented a troll typing quirk

[shy pivot]

oh god i didnt think of that lmao

[grand geode]

is this a homestuck ref

[lavish jackal]

yes

[shy pivot]

i dont even know what homestuck is

[cinder sage]

unfortunately

[strong swift]

when in doubt, yes

[grand geode]

:programming:

oh i should yoink that emoji uhhhh

[strong swift]

vencord fakenitro is being a bit silly right now i think

:programming:

[grand geode]

update

programming

[cinder sage]

just read this! (don't)
https://www.tumblr.com/ranidspace/749306395122368513/the-entirety-of-homestuck

[shy pivot]

dont read homestuck, got it

[lavish jackal]

mmmm homestuck

[grand geode]

homestuck more like

uhhhh

bad

*cue laugh track*

[rare shell]

homestuck

looks inside

left the house

[lavish jackal]

my favorite part of homestuck is how both john and rose are full of shit

they have loving parents who are completely well adjusted and care about them

meanwhile dave has to endure fucking. puppets

swords

saw mindgames

and then jade just. lives alone because her grandpa is apparently just, not even there?

[crimson harness]

I'll obviously abide by them, but what's the reasoning behind modding rules 2 and 3? 3 feels like a legal requirement thing?

[kindred swallow]

3 is a legal thing.

[rare shell]

2. yeah. basically dont try to upload stuff like the balatro.exe or make a github repo thats all the games files as its propietary

[kindred swallow]

I think rule 2 is there because for people that don't know anything about coding languages, it can just cause clutter in chat channels. Thus it's here and should be here only.

[grand geode]

i forgor what those rules are since i have the channel hidden

[dapper helm]

2 = all source code in modding chats
3 = do not debug

[boreal ibex]

im going to debug source code in general chat

(joke(r)ing)

[kindred swallow]

I'm going to debug fifi 12

I think only Lyman might get that reference. I miss Autumn

[polar pecan]

something went kerboom

it crashed right as i finished a blind

[atomic skiff]

dumb stupid homeless joker

[polar pecan]

this was my setup, i had pot of joker'd into a winning hearts flush

it crashes right as it transitions to the shop

[rare shell]

deck idea like high card joker

joker but it mutates

[shy pivot]

into what?

[dapper helm]

jimbo

[shy pivot]

all jokers mutate into jimbo after a random amount of turns

[dapper helm]

new house rule

[rare shell]

idk it'd be an upgrading joker

[shy pivot]

jimbo into legendary jimbo

and then legendarier jimbo

[dapper helm]

egg but it hatches

into chicken scratch

[shy pivot]

... ok that is pretty good

but yes, jokers dramatically changing over time is a mechanic i don't think has had too much use

[rare shell]

Jokers with an investment into them tend to be harder to pull off

[kindred swallow]

Whatcha mean Lyman?

[rare shell]

It's easier to justify something with good immediate benefit over something that takes multiple blinds to enable

I don't have stats or anything but I'd imagine later into the run folks would rather have something like the tribe than constellation (I'd even go so far as to say fortune teller)

(As in a hypothetical shop where you saw both of them)

Flash card? Red pack? Hell even caino usually (to me) get bad rep compared to more upfront jokers

Part of it is the design of the individual joker but imo there's definitely a group of scaling jokers that tend to feel like they fall by the way side

[dapper helm]

true!

[dapper helm]

why would i want canio when i can just get trib

they're not like significantly worse but if you see them too late then they're great

like flash card and constellation are fine just usually not past ante 5, gotta be something crazy like canio or yorick to still be good scaling very late

[kindred swallow]

I wrote out a wall of text and just deleted it lol

While it is easier to see something at face value and believe it to be better immediately, I think knowing how fast and how to build each of the scaling Jokers shows a bridge between being an "okay" player to being a "great" player.

At the end of the day, it doesn't take many planet levels, addition chips and Xmult Jokers to win Ante 8

[dapper helm]

true!

[rare shell]

for the record i love flash card

i am the biggest flash card enjoyer

[dapper helm]

i am a green joker gamer

[rare shell]

[dapper helm]

i would be a wee joker gamer if it would actually show up

[rare shell]

oh great balatro isnt starting and i dont know why

[dapper helm]

i blame lovely

[rare shell]

no its my code being dumb

it was a comma

chat i mustered up the effort to design a new joker today

[cunning silo]

Umm....

[exotic shadow]

choose 1

[dapper helm]

i choose joker tarot

[kindred swallow]

I choose Skip. We should not be here chat!

I'm scared

[kindred swallow]

As time marches on, he only gets stronger

[swift matrix]

Me and Lucky Cat in vanilla runs

Throwback is my boy, but I'm not good at playing with him, lol

my best runs on vanilla with xmult scaling have been with Hologram

killer in combination with certificate and/or the one that adds stone cards to your deck

[dapper helm]

marble joker

[swift matrix]

ah yeah, I can't always remember all the names

[dapper helm]

mhm thats normal

[kindred swallow]

Oh you said flash card not flush card
Nobody mind me, I'm special

[dapper helm]

lmao

theres just nothing quite like credits against the serpent

i got a juggler tag from salt alchemical and it interacted weird in a good way

[cunning silo]

Codex!

and the new deck at that

[dapper helm]

yup

fusion jokers too

i almost tried using sulfur on the needle....

[rare shell]

lebronjames.gif

[kindred osprey]

stupid sexy homeless joker

[dapper helm]

just used soap alchemical to make sure the artist tarot wouldn't hit the wrong cards are you proud lyman

its his birthday!!!

wtf second soul this run

chicot...

i have like 50 legendaries including the ones from the high card mod and i still get chicot.....

i used antimony and it duped chicot...

[kindred swallow]

Chat I need gas station snack suggestions.

[dapper helm]

beef jerky

[rare shell]

can you disclose what part of the world you're in

[kindred swallow]

I need fuel for modded Balatro

[rare shell]

or in america, what corner

[kindred swallow]

YOU THINK I HAVE THE JOLLARS FOR THAT!!

[rare shell]

source: 2 years gas station worker

[kindred swallow]

Mitten.

[dapper helm]

my bad

[rare shell]

do they got wawa up there

[kindred swallow]

No.

[rare shell]

fair enough

hmm

[kindred swallow]

We have Faygo

[rare shell]

mini pretzels

cant go wrong

[kindred swallow]

Pretzels... I like the way this man thinks

[rare shell]

🤝

[kindred swallow]

(Idea for pretzel joker)

[rare shell]

i should make an eldrazi joker

[kindred swallow]

Please don't talk about Magic. MH3 spoilers got me all bricked up and I will just talk about Magic for hours

But nulldrifter

[rare shell]

nulldrifter is bad im sorry

(its not really)

[kindred swallow]

I like him!

[rare shell]

younger me would have gone off

older me recognizes everyone hates you when you bring eldrazi

jund precon looks bepic though

i love boomer magic precon

i cant wait for hogaak 2 to make modern absolutely miserable again

[kindred swallow]

Jund cards are so funny. Dragon, RBG casting cost, RBG effect cost. That's it.

[rare shell]

2024 JUND EM UP

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

it really is so funny

[kindred swallow]

My first edh deck was Prossh

[rare shell]

"what do we make the jund deck?"

"uhhhhh.... lets look at 2018 modern jund"

"goyf tribal, got it"

[kindred swallow]

lmao

Goyf tribal is something no one asked for

[rare shell]

eldrazi leaks ive seen are middling to okay-ish, goyf tribal is epic, and vesuva queen is interesting but ill have to see more of the kit

[tired stone]

Has anyone gotten MoreSpeeds to work on experimental? I get an NPE when I exit the settings screen, and I don't think I'm doing anything weird (other than be on experimental)

[rare shell]

any other mods?

[kindred swallow]

MTG talk break, pretzel time

[tired stone]

The exit button one and the one that pauses on your score. Exit and MoreSpeeds are by the modloader dev, so I guess I'll just try those alone before asking any more questions

[wary moth]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[tired stone]

No, it still crashes with just MoreSpeeds. Does the Lua dump that appears onscreen appear in a text file anywhere? It's truncated at the bottom and not copypastable:

[dapper helm]

experimental?

[tired stone]

Oh, did the next patch leave experimental, like, today? I had been using the public experimental build via the "Betas" tab in steam

[kindred swallow]

The latest patch is live for everyone

it was yesterday, yes

[tired stone]

Ah, neat

I guess that part of my question is moot then

[kindred swallow]

It's really strange that MoreSpeeds was affected by the update but most other mods weren't to our knowledge.

[dapper helm]

i haven't tried it since the update since it conflicts with the main menu color selector and the speed setting stays without the mod on

its funny to me that like one of the simplest mods ever does actually need an update

[languid hearth]

does the update fuck with the mods?

[dapper helm]

no not really

[languid hearth]

oh ok thank u

[dapper helm]

modded jokers currently can't be perishable tho afaik

[lean dune]

SMODS.Joker.perishable_compat = true works as a bandaid fix

[dapper helm]

i'll wait for the real fix

[lean dune]

the real fix is 1.0

[dapper helm]

yeah

for now i don't wanna add that to a bunch of jokers so i'll just leave it messed up till 1.0

[lean dune]

hm yeah the old API physically won't let you, mb

[dapper helm]

huh, interesting

[lean dune]

the keys/values it accepts are hardcoded

one could try and add the value after injection, but meh

[kindred swallow]

Tarot jokers are very strong and I think there's too many.

Why six

[dapper helm]

the common ones are pretty overkill aside from fortune teller

no need for them all to be tarots

[kindred swallow]

We need more Spectral focused Jokers

I don't even think there's many mods that have many of them either

[wary moth]

maybe that could be superposition? spooky action at a distance and all that

[kindred swallow]

Cultist in Ortalab

[dapper helm]

theres a good few

[dapper helm]

occultist and evil eye yeah

shrine too

[dim marsh]

The achievements enabler mod still don't work for me

[dapper helm]

are you playing on an unlock all profile?

[kindred swallow]

Superposition used to give a planet or tarot back in the day. I would love if it turned out to be tarot or spectral

[dim marsh]

No

[wary moth]

that seems reasonable

cool, even

probably uncommon then

someone should do that

[dapper helm]

bring it up to numbuh

[dapper helm]

@iron onyx not sure if this is worth pinging you for but heres a suggested change to base game superposition

[kindred swallow]

Oh lord the eyes, they are upon me

[dapper helm]

they always have been

[gilded vortex]

I also remember the suggestions Superposition could allow Straight loops

QKA23 Straight

[iron onyx]

oh yeah

[iron onyx]

i implemented this

[dapper helm]

^

[iron onyx]

it's not on the website yet

bc the website isn't even released yet

[dapper helm]

thoughts on this tho? along with making it uncommon

[iron onyx]

kind of overlaps with séance imo

[dapper helm]

true

[iron onyx]

which i gave a spectral-based xmult

(x0.5 per spectral used all run atm)

[kindred swallow]

Oh hell yeah

[dapper helm]

what if superposition just created a random consumable instead and stayed as a common?

dilute the pool like crazy so spectrals aren't too common and it gives it more flavor imo

[iron onyx]

maybe... but the problem is, random planets just... aren't that good.

[dapper helm]

true

[kindred swallow]

At worst they're a jollar

[iron onyx]

that's fair

it would have campfire synergy ig

just making straights easier to play is more than enough

[kindred swallow]

I don't want to play an Ace straight for $1

[iron onyx]

and maybe it could just be generate a random consumable on any straight?

[dapper helm]

that'd be very interesting yeah

[proven crypt]

can steammodded read game settings?

[dapper helm]

i'd actually wanna pick that up then

[iron onyx]

yeah, i think i'm legit responsible for take_ownership being a thing

[dapper helm]

lmao

[dapper helm]

almost certainly yes

is this for the high contrast setting?

[proven crypt]

yea

[iron onyx]

G.SETTINGS.colourblind_option

next question

[proven crypt]

how do you read the setting?

via code

[dapper helm]

you've spent too long looking at the code i fear

[iron onyx]

@proven crypt i just gave you the boolean

[dapper helm]

whole thing memorized frfr

[iron onyx]

do you understand why i call it the balatronomicon now?

[wary moth]

cool

[proven crypt]

oh its a variable

[dapper helm]

the balatronomicon...

[proven crypt]

ty

[iron onyx]

yes

a boolean

you can put it in an if statement

or add it as a conditional

[dapper helm]

what are you up to most recently btw numbuh? i saw the full house joker art but i can't recall seeing your ideas for the exact effect

[iron onyx]

(boolean and true_value or false_value)

i uh

dumped a preview of my balatro website at 6 am

before passing out

here it is again

[dapper helm]

nice

[iron onyx]

"is" will be "contains"

but i figured that would be obvious, given flush house is technically a "secret" hand

[dapper helm]

is it almost done or are there more changes to be done like the "changed jokers" section?

[iron onyx]

more changes to be done

gotta get black deck change in there too

hint:

[dapper helm]

i look forward to playing it when you're done updating everything

soz if i bothered with the ping btw it just seemed like the sort of thing you'd be interested in

[iron onyx]

yeah nah, i already thought of superposition

[proven crypt]

local isHighContrast = G.SETTINGS.colourblind_option

    local normalFilePath = 'Tarots.png'
    local highContrastFilePath = 'Tarots_HighContrast.png'

    local filePath = ''

    if (isHighContrast) then
        sendDebugMessage("High Contrast Setting Turned On, Using file: " .. highContrastFilePath)
        filePath = highContrastFilePath
    else
        sendDebugMessage("High Contrast Setting Turned Off, Using file: " .. normalFilePath)
        filePath = normalFilePath
    end

[iron onyx]

thanks for thinking of me tho

[proven crypt]

it works yay

[iron onyx]

good job

[kindred swallow]

Coding.. you sometimes just jonk around and find out

[proven crypt]

is there a way to detect if the setting is changed?

[lean dune]

you'd need to use Card:set_sprites()

I'll add support for this in steamodded 1.0

[gilded vortex]

Does Steamodded support Editions?

[lean dune]

not yet

[gilded vortex]

I hope it supports an edition having multiple tooltips like Negative does

[proven crypt]

Is there a way to retexture only the edited cards? It would help mod compatibility with each other

[stone brook]

could keep a list of all the cards with edits and run through the list when you need

[lean dune]

with steamodded, you can take ownership of the cards you need and assign a different atlas to those

[swift matrix]

What a perfectly normal game of Balatro

And a normal value for flush

[proven crypt]

new project, just not as cool as the colored tarot one

[fallow bramble]

Actual square joker carrying

[swift matrix]

hehe perhaps

but betmma's vouchers are putting in work too

[fallow bramble]

They're funny sometimes

Tho most often I get blocked by the "get an eternal tarot card"

[swift matrix]

lol, I'm doing a spade flush run and got a (modded) tarot that turns all the cards in my hand into diamonds

it just lives there now

[fallow bramble]

When I get an eternal "multiply money by -1" 💀

[proven crypt]

successfuly isolated the gems

[swift matrix]

lookin good

[swift matrix]

my game also just randomly crashed, not that I can blame it at this point

[proven crypt]

Normal Ver

High Contrast Ver

kinda cursed

[proven crypt]

local sprite_tarot = SMODS.Sprite:new('TarotColored', color_mod.path, filePath, 71, 95, 'asset_atli')

    sprite_tarot:register()

    local star = SMODS.Tarot:take_ownership('star')
    local moon = SMODS.Tarot:take_ownership('moon')
    local sun = SMODS.Tarot:take_ownership('sun')
    local world = SMODS.Tarot:take_ownership('world')

    star.atlas = 'TarotColored'
    moon.atlas = 'TarotColored'
    sun.atlas = 'TarotColored'
    world.atlas = 'TarotColored'

    star:register()
    moon:register()
    sun:register()
    world:register()

uhh how do i edit the atlas

[fallow bramble]

The funny SDM0 Stuff run

[lean dune]

for now, I think you'll want to first register, then modify like SMODS.Tarots.c_star.atlas = 'TarotColored'

in 1.0 you'll be able to provide a table as a second argument that will automatically be applied to the object though

[proven crypt]

uhh, it works

but it doesn't apply in the collection?

so you only see the skinned version in gameplay

but both are registered as from the mod

[lean dune]

are you setting the atlas during Card:set_sprites()?

[proven crypt]

no, its within the SMODS.INIT function

[wide patio]

im trying to install mods and uhhhh

[green kettle]

Hearts and spades didn't even change

[proven crypt]

because they are already the same color

the mod just normalizes the colors of the joker based on your high contrast setting

[green kettle]

Interesting

I've got no clue about actually modding and the current limits

But I am decently sure that the idea that's being made is not yet known to be possible

An edition that when put on a joker changed the jokers effects

[lean dune]

looks like you double-installed steamodded

verify Balatro's game files on steam and reinstall, preferably with #1217867725532041369

[proven crypt]

can the versions of the surrounding jokers be accessed?

[lean dune]

wdym?

[proven crypt]

like check if the other jokers are polychrome, negative, etc.

[green kettle]

yeah someones made a joker based on that

[swift matrix]

like how baseball card accesses the rarity (I don't know the answer to your questuion, just checking)

[lean dune]

you can check if a card has an edition with card.edition (like card.edition.polychrome)

the table G.jokers.cards holds all jokers currently in the joker area

so a joker's effect can easily loop through that to see where it is and if adjacent jokers are editioned

[proven crypt]

whats that func

[lean dune]

that's where the sprites get set

(like the name suggests)

[proven crypt]

how do i use it'

[lean dune]

i have some patches on that function for steamodded 1.0 that achieve basically what you want

[proven crypt]

how is the filename resolved?

[lean dune]

there's no filename here? the sprite API handles that

[proven crypt]

how would the textures be named?

[lean dune]

however you would decide to name them...

[celest musk]

what do you think about its effect ?

[lean dune]

i like it, but the description feels like it could be more concise

either "at least 25%" or "25% or more"

[celest musk]

k

better ?

[lean dune]

better

how about "Each hand must score at least 25% of Blind's required chips"

[cinder sage]

are you able to change the description based on the base value?

if you can then maybe just putting the number would help

[lean dune]

you can pass variables to the description (The Ox does this with your most played poker hand)

[flat void]

Wondering out loud how possible it would be to make jokers you can activate at will (outside of the existing conditions of when you sell a joker)

Maybe reusing some of the functionality of the consumable cards

[grand geode]

(the variable will always display as your most played hand in the blind selection)

[cunning silo]

It is possible

Wait did autumn leave the server?

[wanton rapids]

oh wait they did

[cunning silo]

Why?

[white scarab]

Privated the GitHub too

[cunning silo]

Wait actually?

That’s sad

[grand geode]

only thac got privated

[cunning silo]

But why did they leave?

[grand geode]

shrug

[cunning silo]

If I ever make a general joker mod, I have to make a legendary that is based on either Sparkle or Sampo from HSR

Since they are masked fools

[fallow bramble]

Might be my fault, maybe she didnt like me messing with one line of code 🤷‍♂️

[cunning silo]

What happened?

[fallow bramble]

I'll DM you if it's ok

[cunning silo]

Sure

[novel sky]

engine/sprite.lua:34: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'x'

Is anyone else getting this error with their mods now that 1.0.1f has dropped?

[boreal ibex]

i should really start writing down the mod ideas i have

[rare shell]

Hello chat

I was exposed to cesium 137 today

Loving the new job

[orchid vault]

did you

did you take a little taste

[rare shell]

I wish I could

I just heard the Geiger counter go brazy

[orchid vault]

lmao

[rare shell]

Those things still spook me

[orchid vault]

what’s your job by the way? i’m guessing it’s the thing that’s in your name but i can’t be sure

[rare shell]

Oh it's a glass factory

[orchid vault]

i see

do you enjoy it at all?

[gilded vortex]

Goiânia incident 2

[rare shell]

It's second day of orientation so I dunno yet

[orchid vault]

mm

reminds me of the time my friend ordered uranium 238 on etsy

[rare shell]

I think I'll be fine, routine is my mode of operation

[fallow bramble]

Hi Lyman 👋

[rare shell]

Howdy

[orchid vault]

i was on a discord call with him helping him try to reduce the radiation.. because the dingus THREW OUT THE METAL CYLINDER THAT IT CAME IN

[rare shell]

I was sitting by this lil lead box of a speck of cs137 for like 30 minutes

Also what

The hell

[orchid vault]

we eventually decided on burying it inside of a tupperware container filled with water

[gilded vortex]

I don't even have words

[rare shell]

You mean the lead container???¿????

[orchid vault]

not great but as good as two thirteen year olds could get on a discord call

[orchid vault]

yeah

he threw out the lead container that it came in

[rare shell]

WHAT ARE 13 YEAR OLDS DOING ORDERING URANIUM 238 OFF THE INTERNET

[gilded vortex]

I feel like burying radioactive material is hazardous

[orchid vault]

HEY it wasn’t me who ordered it

[orchid vault]

i was just helping him to reduce radiation because i knew a little bit about uranium storage at the time

not a lot but more than my friend

it was like 7 in the fucking morning when it all happened

hilarious as hell

[rare shell]

Magical

[orchid vault]

neither of us have developed cancer… yet

so i feel like we did at least something right

(oh also funny thing, because of how cameras react to radiation, the footage that i was seeing via the discord call was like blurry, upside down, and laggy)

the entire incident was two years ago and i don’t believe my friends family found the tupperware container

[rare shell]

Did he properly get rid of it??

Like that sounds like an actual environmental hazard

[orchid vault]

depends on what you consider to be ‘properly’

[orchid vault]

not really, as the amount of it wasn’t very large and it was very low purity

[rare shell]

You really should try to letting someone know about that, that kind of stuff could end up hurting someone long term

[celest musk]

so i'm making a blind mod what do you think ? (the oryx and the river are coded i will do the mirror and ivory skull later)

i just read what was sent before, excuse me wt-

[lean dune]

must play less than 5 cards sounds familiar

[woeful finch]

Old arm 😔

[lean dune]

yep

[celest musk]

really ? didn't know

[woeful finch]

yep

it got reworked cuz it killed majority of strategies

especially 5 card hands

[celest musk]

if it was already made i can change it if you want

[woeful finch]

how about “Cards held in hand are debuffed if a 5 card hand is played”

[lean dune]

if played hand contains 5 cards, redraw only one card

[woeful finch]

cool idea

[celest musk]

i asked for it's effect 2 or 3 days ago and the effect seemed okay so it bother me a bit to have to redo the blind

[gilded vortex]

Ooh very interesting

I love it

[lean dune]

serpent mechanics are underused imo

could also go one step further and include discards

when 5 cards are played or discarded, redraw only one card

[woeful finch]

yeah here’s an old screenshot of old arm #1156224143818227893 message

[celest musk]

i though it was a mod that already added a blind with that effect

the blind isn't that terrible if you encounter it early or can reroll it or disable it

[umbral citrus]

old handy tag 😭

[woeful finch]

but if you can’t your run is dead

which happens more often than you think

[lean dune]

it just disallows a lot of hands that are otherwise good to build around

[woeful finch]

(directors cut / reroll tag isn’t guaranteed to show up)

[lean dune]

which would bring us back to high card meta

[woeful finch]

wait

imagine old arm on old gold stake

[umbral citrus]

we are generally building around 5 card hands

[lean dune]

oh no...

[umbral citrus]

uhhh no

[lean dune]

not like straights or flushes were even viable, but sounds pretty bad

[woeful finch]

yeah

[celest musk]

i will think about a new river blind but rn i don't want to

[lofty nacelle]

the oryx looks like an easier version of the "you have 0 discards" tag

[dapper helm]

disagree

[iron onyx]

so

thoughts on changing séance spectral spawning to a "hand changes every payout" effect?

[unkempt geyser]

ivory skull is very mean to a few jokers while not affecting a lot of other runs

[iron onyx]

(bear in mind i've also given it a +0.5x mult for every spectral used in the run)

[unkempt geyser]

out of those new blinds the mirror sounds the most interesting to play around to me

its sorta cursed but its pretty different

[dapper helm]

too good, if it was limited to one activation each blind then yeah it'd be fun

like what if it just hit high card > two pair > flush

if possible it'd be interesting if it went up the hand list and looped back to high card after you hit the top

probably starting at 3oak or 4oak if i'm remembering the hand list correctly

would make it steadily get more difficult then once you hit the peak it comes around to being very easy for an enormous payout

doesn't sound possible without doing stupid stuff tho

[astral glade]

excluding secret hands?

[dapper helm]

including when unlocked

straight up whatever you see in your poker hands run info screen

[astral glade]

seems kinda really annoying

[dapper helm]

to play with or to program?

[astral glade]

play with

playing a one-off five of a kind you get from pure luck and then having to try and play it again seems difficult

[dapper helm]

true but it gives a spectral and spectrals give +0.5x mult, so like after you somehow complete all the super hard hands and it loops to high card its like 6(?) free stacks of 0.5x mult

[astral glade]

thats fair

i guess i would have to try it and actually play a run with it

[fresh vortex]

Does anyone know how to force the game to give me a card I made?

[dapper helm]

debug mode

debugplus if you use lovely

[fresh vortex]

thanks

[cursive compass]

yeah with debug mode press 3 while you're hovering over it in the collection

[celest musk]

i changed the river to make it encounterable only from ante 3 to 5

[gilded vortex]

I think after 3 is fine

[celest musk]

because it can definitely be a run killer so i make it encounterable early but not too early

[rare shell]

carnibl.,?

[fallow bramble]

canibal 😏

[rare shell]

what do you think of the addition of the word joker here?

[fallow bramble]

I'm neutral, feels weird but I get why it's here

[shy pivot]

card feels a bit too crowded imo

[rare shell]

yeah it does

but sacrifices has to be made

[fallow bramble]

If you're trying to add "Joker" have you tried on the tent?

[rare shell]

don't want to add any words to the art itself

what if smaller carnival font?

[sinful bridge]

anyone got any idea as to where i'd find the plain backgrounds from the legendary jokers?

[rare shell]

the same place where you find every other sprite

[sinful bridge]

yeah i don't have a .exe in my game files

less i'm being dense as hell

so i can't find the game files

sprite files rather

[sinful bridge]

could you just drop one of the backgrounds as a png please

[rare shell]

sure

[sinful bridge]

legend

thanks a bunch man

would you recommend using something like aseprite if i was trying to design my own cards ??

[rare shell]

so yay or nay for smaller carnival text?

[sinful bridge]

alr thanks

[shrewd stream]

I SAY YAY

[sinful bridge]

smaller looks better in my opinion

[shy pivot]

smaller carnival font is better, ye

[sinful bridge]

that looks cool as fuck brah keep it up

[rare shell]

nice, ty

[shrewd stream]

on the same topic i edited my bunco cards that didnt have joker text on them

firch helped w the joker knight one

[shy pivot]

suggestion: joker knight, have the letters on each corner of the square?

actually no, it looks fine

[shrewd stream]

it mimicing the card abilities is fine

[weak mortar]

I've revised that challenge I was working on awhile back

[quaint sable]

Cool idea

[celest musk]

idk which one to choose between the 2nd and the 3rd

[rare shell]

I picked third

[celest musk]

noice

[green kettle]

Judgement and high priestess is interesting

[weak mortar]

-- allowed cards
-- judgement, only way to get jokers
-- temperance, only way to get money
-- high priestess, pollutes the tarot pulls + gambling
-- wheel of fortune, gambling
-- fool, pollutes pulls

well I also banned celestial packs, so high priestess is the way to get planet cards

[rare shell]

That reminds me I should add new jankjonkler challenges

But I have no ideas

[languid hearth]

this is my favorite joker stylistically from bunco

[dapper helm]

i think its my fav from bunco in general

allows for very silly things to happen

especially if you get it before ante 3

[languid hearth]

true

[lean summit]

heya, are there any tutorials/resources for modding in custom face cards?

[civic grail]

like a texture mod?

[strong swift]

something with ternary system and every non-venus planet card banned. also maybe less/no jokers? idk just spitballing

[civic grail]

what are the current list of challenges?

[dapper helm]

smh not a jank jonklers aficionado

(i don't have them unlocked cause i haven't done all the other modded challenges i have downloaded)

[lean summit]

sorta yea, i saw some on the github page and a few were discord links which i assume led to here

[viscid spear]

oryx mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/yes-hakuna-matata-hide-bye-gif-14601146

[civic grail]

hmm im not sure about the programming side of things, but as for the Spritesheet i can DM it to you

[lean summit]

that would be great, i haven't used love2d or modding tools for it so not sure where to start with actually replacing the sprites myself

i saw one for card backs but not for card fronts

[winter bone]

@strong falcon

yo

the sniper deck doesnt work

the sniper doesn't gain mult i assume because of the increased scaling

idk why but it doesnt gain mult

[crystal saddle]

is there a known issue with mikas mod collection with the latest patch? I just got into balatro and its modding so I could be doing something wrong

I have installed the basemod and love thing

but it crashes when I try to load

[dapper helm]

send crash log

[strong falcon]

Mod list?

[crystal saddle]

okay! will do

[celest musk]

yes

and coded btw

[winter bone]

i'll share it in a bit im on my pc not my laptop rn

but i do have like 7 pages of mods

so it very well could be a conflict

didn't think of that

[crystal saddle]

NVM am on thunderstore

it works there

[winter bone]

i forgot thunderstore exists

[white scarab]

thunderstore

[exotic shadow]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1235719119093891184

a little something I made today

[umbral pilot]

it's a place that exists

[exotic shadow]

says the engineer of the place

[umbral pilot]

exactly, I'm not going to mention it any more than that lol

[reef lotus]

Well I cant afford this

[fallow bramble]

Might have to sell a liver or 2 ..... or 369785

[strong swift]

i think mika was a bit pissed

[haughty hinge]

might wanna explain how you got that 369785

[fallow bramble]

I have my sources

[haughty hinge]

example :)

[half crescent]

liver grows back so you just gotta trick liver fragments into growing

[crude knot]

simple exponential money making

[dapper helm]

oh you know, the normal way of getting them

[stone brook]

@ebon flame steam only checks balatro.exe

go to the folder

and check manually

[ebon flame]

wdym by this

[stone brook]

when you verify file integrity, it doesnt delete dwmapi.dll

[ebon flame]

Deleting it just causes mods to not load

Is there something else that needs to be done to migrate?

[stone brook]

do you have the latest steamodded with lovely.toml in your mods folder

[ebon flame]

Am I supposed to use both? I thought the point of the injector was to get rid of steammodded?

[stone brook]

no, the point of lovely is to not use the classic injector

basically lovely loads steamodded as a mod

[ebon flame]

ah

ok that makes sense

thanks

So I don't need to modify my existing mods then to work with it? Or did the update break between the exp build and release?

[stone brook]

you shouldnt need to update, i think

there may be some issues, but that depends on the mods

[ebon flame]

There were no systems changes right

[stone brook]

no, steamodded is still the same

fundamentally the same, just loaded differently

[lavish jackal]

god your twitter's a dump

[strong swift]

what

[ebon flame]

cool looks like my mods are still working thanks

[lavish jackal]

gee's

its like an echo chamber of the same 5 points about crypto parroted ad nauseam

fascinating specimen

i must study you

[dapper helm]

what made you wanna check that?

ah i see the modding dev messages

[rare shell]

akai i had been like

sitting here for like 20 minutes wondering what beef you had with time

i am going to assume you pinged the wrong person

[strong swift]

i dont even have a twitter lmao

[rare shell]

no its okay i know what akai was refering to lmao

[dapper helm]

did akai ping timetoexplode?

[rare shell]

OH

no

i understand the misunderstanding

i thought they pinged time

they did not

[strong swift]

yeah i'm just now realizing my username does not lend well to nicknames

[white scarab]

They probably just searched for the twitter user named “timetoexplode” or something

[rare shell]

no

[white scarab]

you could do TTE

[rare shell]

.

is who they are talking about

[strong swift]

acronym (gross)

[rare shell]

the person with the crypto promo in bio

:y

[white scarab]

oh

[dapper helm]

explo?

[cinder sage]

time

[rare shell]

i feel that, metoex

[white scarab]

to

[strong swift]

yeah time works

[cinder sage]

um

[rare shell]

yeah ive got time

[lavish jackal]

yeah I had a look through their twitter its an absolute garbage fire

[cinder sage]

how do i actually install steamodded with lovely

[dapper helm]

my god

[lavish jackal]

pays to have a checkmark
discord shop decorations
complains about crypto "injustices"

[dapper helm]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217867725532041369

steamodded source code in mod folder, lovely dll in balatro.exe folder

[strong swift]

do you just have a reflex of posting that link

[rare shell]

ok chat

pick for me

[dapper helm]

more or less yeah

[strong swift]

oracle sounds cooler

[rare shell]

i will not elaborate

[strong swift]

idk what the context is but that

[rare shell]

you will soon know

[dapper helm]

is it related to homestuck?

[rare shell]

nop

[winter bone]

@strong falcon ok you ready

[lavish jackal]

@rare shell when blahaj joker

[rare shell]

blahaj joker will return when smods 1.0 comes out

[crystal saddle]

The actual non negative jokers:
Brainstorm
Blueprint
Rigged Joker
Blue Moon
The Idol

[dapper helm]

rigged blue moon....

[crystal saddle]

I had to pass up Hack

twas pain

what's funny is that this is all Mika's mod and some vanilla stuff. I have other mods but they are footnotes

ill post my mod list and the seed if anyone wishes to try to recreate it

when I finish

[strong swift]

it's snow's mods and jellymod

there's a fix with the first, but jellymod won't work

[fickle elbow]

no i updated my mod to work with it just download latest

[crystal saddle]

I misplayed hard through a lotta it but in my defense Im currently highly sick.
Modlist was:
Bunco-3.1
Lovely
Nativefs
Mika's collection
Steammodded
JankJonklers
Themed Jokers (Disabled)

[fickle elbow]

yea, latest download

[dapper helm]

get well soon lulunii!

[crystal saddle]

mods are fun

and thanks Coro

[fickle elbow]

Yea, thats why i make them :]

[golden echo]

my injector keeps disappearing before I can insert the .exe

does anyone know why that happens?

how did you solve this?

[tall vessel]

use lovely

[golden echo]

Which file is the one to work woth?

[tall vessel]

#⚙・modding-general message

[strong falcon]

Update Snow's mod, there was an incompatibility between them but they fixed it in the latest update

And also get rid of jellymod, it's incompatible with a lot of mods

[round ore]

sad i really enjoy jelly mod

Mod recs please

[shy pivot]

Vanilla+ Joker Packs (Relatively small size packs of Jokers)

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1220084296346501201
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214838383805997117
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1224352378871087104

Vanillaish non-Joker Packs (Consumables, Tarots, oh god what are oddities)

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1226433760426201179
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217914433846775918

Large Joker Packs (Still keeps it relatively vanilla but definitely a big bump in Jokers)

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1214097296317227028
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215775159638818826

Large Mods w/or outright New Content

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1221916334372290620
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1227317656131211284

GOAT Mod, keep installed at all times

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1216064295633289286

[swift matrix]

I like pretty much everything I have loaded tbh

Specifically if you're after more than just more jonklers, (and besides what Sunday already recommended) Bettma's vouchers, Crimson's tier 3 vouchers, Dx Tarots, and Gold's cards are fun

but if you do like "joker number go up" then you can't go wrong with any of this imo

[round ore]

i have these

[swift matrix]

what specifically are you looking for? As I said I'd reccomend everything I have, especially if you like having more jokers

[round ore]

i had to take out jelly since it crashed constantly

[swift matrix]

Yeah, I saw that part

[round ore]

i really like consumables but already have codex

help

what's missing

[swift matrix]

what made this start happening?

[round ore]

no idea

[rare shell]

why are you downloading the source code instead of the mods' release?

that goes for every mod I see here based on your screenshot

[round ore]

i have no clue

this is how i was told to do it

they are in my mod folder

[swift matrix]

I'm not aware of any mod having commits after the most current release that break anything

Generally I do the same thing if the commits are ahead of the release, because sometimes they even fix crashes

[rare shell]

I sometimes have not up-to-date source code, or sometimes my code is ahead of the release and breaks stuff

[round ore]

it says i'm missing somthing

[swift matrix]

fair, also at least one mod, myst's stuff iirc has non steammodded stuff in their repo so be careful of that

[swift matrix]

tbh I never get when the repo is behind the release

[round ore]

i don't use myst

TBF githubs layout sucks

[swift matrix]

were you already successfully using Betmma's stuff?

Because things tend to work better if you have each mod in their own subfolder, and I noticed that you left the folder they;re all bundled in

[round ore]

it's sylvies

i disabled and reabled them

[swift matrix]

ah yeah I thought it might be due to that being the one that calls the error

idk why though

try replacing it with the release instead of the repo

https://github.com/NewtTheFish/SylvieSilly/releases/tag/0.1.1

[round ore]

that fixed it

[swift matrix]

glad to hear :3

[dapper helm]

based goat mod

[cunning silo]

I love how both of my mods are in the large mod category XD

[cunning silo]

Codex has an issue. What version did you download?

Or is that an issue with morefluff?

I might be that

@wanton rapids Take a look at this

[cunning silo]

What caused the crash?

[round ore]

i played a 4 of a kind and it crashes

[dapper helm]

hey chat what modded deck should i use

[wanton rapids]

freaky deck

[cunning silo]

Odds are it’s not codex then

But it is end of round eval

I will take a look at it when I return by home

[wanton rapids]

i don't know what in morefluff would trigger that

hm

[cunning silo]

It does trace back to it

[wanton rapids]

this is the block that triggers it

[cunning silo]

Odd

[round ore]

it's the slot joker

[cunning silo]

Acid should not be triggered

[cunning silo]

Oh?

[wanton rapids]

the jackpot one?

[cunning silo]

Or catalyst?

[round ore]

it gives money ends the blind then crashes

[cunning silo]

Huh

Odd

[cunning silo]

From what mod is it?

It’s odd that it’s actually that mod, since why would it try to modify extra

It’s an error I’ve encountered with codex recently, are you sure you are on the latest version?

What cards did you use during this run?

[kindred swallow]

That's really odd

[round ore]

it might be the negative

i'm using the dice deck

[cunning silo]

No the issue is in codex

[round ore]

it's probably catalyst then

[cunning silo]

I will check it out when I return home today

[kindred swallow]

It's most likely one of the Codex overrides that care about the Alchemical cards returning cards back to their original state.

[round ore]

i can try to pull the log if you want

[cunning silo]

The log would not really help me rn, I need to look at the lines

The bad news is that I’m at work rn, and I cannot take a look at the code

The good news is that I have a shorter day today, so I’ll be home in about 3 hours or so

[cunning silo]

Yeah probably that

[kindred swallow]

Focus on work brother, you're almost there

[cunning silo]

XD

[cunning silo]

It’s not like I don’t code at my job as well XD

[normal palm]

hiya

[cunning silo]

Hi

[dapper helm]

hello

[kindred swallow]

Ya'll are a different breed lmao

[cunning silo]

XD

[normal palm]

I'm working on a stupid enhancement but I'm not very good at pixel art so i need opinions lol

[round ore]

i can't read code but i hope it's not your mod i broke 😦

[dapper helm]

huh

[cunning silo]

Don’t worry, you never broke a thing. It’s probably an oversight on my end

[cunning silo]

Sure, show us

[round ore]

i think it's probably the fact i have so many negative consumables

[kindred swallow]

Not in a bad way of course, but I wouldn't want my job and hobby crossing over if they both cause headaches.

[normal palm]

not really done yet but hows this so far

[round ore]

ooo cursed cards

[cunning silo]

Oh that’s interesting

Kinda ominous

[normal palm]

the dark grey is transparent it's supposed to be torn

[round ore]

Fractured Edition

[normal palm]

tbh

i dont know if itll read very well in the game

so idk what i should do to improve it

[kindred swallow]

1x texture will cause issues.

[round ore]

what's it do?

[normal palm]

I was gonna make a 1x version too

[normal palm]

it's really stupid

I wanna make it pull a random number between 0.25 and 4 and x it

[round ore]

so like a roulette?

[normal palm]

yeah

it can either super save you or super ruin you

[round ore]

double down edition?

could be very simple and just have the suits stack on it

instead of the arrows on boost

just have it's suit down the sides

[normal palm]

Hmmmm

tbh I'm not entirely sure what you mean

I'm also very new to this lmao

[wanton rapids]

how many decks do you have??

[stone brook]

bonus with no card

[nocturne dagger]

someone can help me???
im trying to install steammodded

[round ore]

This but a whole bunch of the cards suit

[dapper helm]

lmao thats your question?

let me check

46

[round ore]

coro helped me install it a while back i can try to tag it

[wanton rapids]

i made a freaky deck. that looks to be a different one

[dapper helm]

i'm going to get rid of a few decks real quick

[dapper helm]

yeah i just messed with the enhancers png and made it with deck creator for the meme

[round ore]

@round ore this is where it starts

[dapper helm]

the texture is legit poorly cropped from the original image on reddit

[wanton rapids]

the recreation that's used in morefluff

[dapper helm]

how do i get the deck in morefluff?

[wanton rapids]

1/100 chance to show up when you start the game

[dapper helm]

or is it unreleased?

[wanton rapids]

you can edit the code

[dapper helm]

thats so good

[shy pivot]

yeah and you're gonna add like 2 more to it lmao

[dapper helm]

vineboom jumpscare in the code

[cunning silo]

Oh? When?

[wanton rapids]

composite hands and The Mystery Mod

[cunning silo]

You consider composite hands as a “big mod”?

[wanton rapids]

also morefluff has colour cards since about 8 hours ago

[cunning silo]

It’s out???

Yay

[wanton rapids]

yeah!

[shy pivot]

i do find it hard to keep track of your mods so I'm assuming 😛

[cunning silo]

I gotta try it out

XD

[wanton rapids]

why do you think people were getting colour cards in alchemy packs

[shy pivot]

testiment to the output of your work

[cunning silo]

There are currently 3 big mods I am working on

Codex, fusion, and the mystery one (that I almost leaked yesterday)

[dapper helm]

almost

[cunning silo]

I am not sure TbH

[shy pivot]

yeah you've made cryptic comments about your secret project so i'm assuming it's gonna be a big one lol

[dapper helm]

i am very curious about it

[grand geode]

feder what are you cooking

[shy pivot]

are you just going to post another cryptic comment

[cunning silo]

I can only say a few things about it:
It’s a really interesting one.
It adds an element of challenge.
Me and Lyman are super proud of it

[shy pivot]

youre killing me lol

[sullen bison]

Feder is cooking actual playing cards, recipe book soon

[grand geode]

house rules 2

/j

[cunning silo]

That’s for another time probably

Since I have a prototype for that

But I can say this: another consumable tab is coming (or is it even a consumable?)

[shy pivot]

i give up

[cunning silo]

XD

[dapper helm]

i think i get it

[cunning silo]

Post it in DMs

We don’t wanna spoil the surprise XD

[dapper helm]

yeah def not

[grand geode]

hey you should let me know what it is so i can modify The Monster to kill that

[dapper helm]

i wonder if my guess will be confirmed or denied or left hanging

[wanton rapids]

cine cards deluxe?

[shy pivot]

now it's multiple people leaving cyrptic comments

i am ready to stan reverie, i have always been ready

i will prefer it over codex (runs for cover)

[cunning silo]

Feder crying in the corner XD

Nah jk I love reverie too

Really excited for its release

[kindred swallow]

[shy pivot]

take solace feder that you will always have like at least minimum 3 spots in the 'large mod w/or outright new content' category lol

[cunning silo]

XD

[kindred swallow]

The mystery mod is the resource one right?

[shy pivot]

i dont expect that category to grow that much larger, tbh

[kindred swallow]

Wait.. I don't think you or lyman has mentioned that

[cunning silo]

?

[shy pivot]

unless people come up with some crazy, crazy stuff. which.. eh, might be inevitable

[kindred swallow]

[cunning silo]

I mean, I do wanna make a farming sim inside balatro

But that’s not the mod

[shy pivot]

oh my go

[cunning silo]

Although

Crops that level up certain suits

That sounds fun

[kindred swallow]

Lyman is helping you with composite hands?

[cunning silo]

No

[shy pivot]

hmm. crop-like consumables would be pretty easy to prototype, huh? color cards out here already laying groundwork

to make them grow maybe you'd play certain hands per round 🤔

[cunning silo]

Oh they will not be placed inside the consumable sore

I was going to place them in a special tab in the run info

[haughty hinge]

m

[shy pivot]

'special tab in the run info' API when

[grand geode]

might as well make an ui api

(impossible

[nocturne dagger]

someone can help me?
im trying to install steammodded and i keep on getting this error when i open balatro

[kindred swallow]

You dropped Balatro.exe in the application correctly?

[round ore]

my contrast turned off how do i fix it

[grand geode]

you have Lovely and the toml but not the source code of Steamodded i think?

[round ore]

i can't desern the colors anymore

[dapper helm]

the high contrast setting turned off?

[round ore]

i have it on

[dapper helm]

do you have any texture packs for the suits? enhanced enhancements comes with one

[round ore]

the green and black don't have much difference since i can barely tell their shades

[dapper helm]

yeah thats from enhanced enhancements, delete the lines saying contrast from the code

[round ore]

one is slightly brown so i think thats clubs

the other two are the same color

what the file called

[dapper helm]

the lua here

[round ore]

is it the lua?

[dapper helm]

yeah its like 6 lines of code just remove all the ones saying contrast

[round ore]

do i delete the recast contrast one?

[dapper helm]

yes that too

[round ore]

so today i learned i'm color blind yay me

[dapper helm]

unfortunate

sad that you learned this way

[round ore]

eh i just figured it was with grey scale

[shy pivot]

i mean

people pay for that

now you know for free

honestly pretty valuable info to have

[dapper helm]

people pay for that?

[round ore]

i knew i had greyscale colorblindness

i can't really deserve shades of grey to black

[shy pivot]

people pay for eyes, yeah

and sometimes people pay to get eyes checked out!

[round ore]

Hunter x Hunter Refernce

[dapper helm]

i just didn't know people paid to know about colourblindness specifically but yeah i guess its not immediately obvious usually

[round ore]

pay for eyes

[dapper helm]

glasses are so expensive

[worn pumice]

I didn't have enhanced enhancements but the card colors also looks like the pic above

[dapper helm]

do you have the inscryption jokers?

[worn pumice]

I have now, but yesterday I didn't have it the cards still looked like this

[dapper helm]

can you send a screenshot of your mod list?

[worn pumice]

actually probably is bunco

[dapper helm]

might be, i think i read that before in the patch notes? i didn't pay much attention to it

[worn pumice]

the mod have assets related to cards

[dapper helm]

yeah its bunco

i wonder if someone would be down to make a texture pack api that lets you enable/disable texture packs in a setting menu

[normal palm]

hmmm

[swift matrix]

sus

[gilded vortex]

Interesting

[normal palm]

it's a wip because i dont know how to make pixel art at all lmao

[gilded vortex]

It looks pretty good. I also don’t know how to make pixel art. I think there’s some sharp corners jutting out and long straight lines you could try to smooth