⚙・modding-general

[cunning silo]

Yeah

[cunning silo]

Love it

Ooh stone would be fun

[fallow bramble]

Please do its funny

[dapper helm]

woah umbrella

[lavish jackal]

back to the kitchen i go

[wanton rapids]

can you leave one for colour card compat please

[fallow bramble]

Whats that?

[lavish jackal]

gotta make stone alchemical for the boss

[wanton rapids]

all jokers are now freaky

[fallow bramble]

Im scared of what that means

[dapper helm]

you gotta make balatrostuck so you can release it ;-;

[wanton rapids]

the ONE TIME wheel of fortune works

[lavish jackal]

will do both

i can do both alchemical bs and balatrostuck bs

[dapper helm]

akai doing it all

[sleek granite]

with style

[carmine mortar]

Boss Blind - The Stone
1 in 3 cards become stone, Mult from all sources is halved.

[cunning silo]

What do you guys want from a playable card API?

[fallow bramble]

Playable cards

[sleek granite]

eval_play hook

[cunning silo]

Oh god

[lavish jackal]

symbol done, bg time

[sleek granite]

eval_card sry

[cunning silo]

Love the symbol

[cunning silo]

What does eval_card do

[sleek granite]

uhhhh

calculate card

[fallow bramble]

Evaluate card

[gilded vortex]

I thought the Oil was going to look like the one in Land of Wind and Shade

[sleek granite]

basically like a calculate hook for jokers

but itd probably be more limited

[gilded vortex]

Oh that’s such an interesting idea for a Joker. I love it

[cunning silo]

Will look into it

[sleek granite]

since theres only one timing pcards get calculated yknow

[gilded vortex]

Unless…

[cunning silo]

okay back to pc now

[fallow bramble]

Hi PC itay

[sleek granite]

other timings are for future us (itay) to worry about

[fallow bramble]

Who would win between Itay and Feder?

[gilded vortex]

It’s fun reading what people who’re reading Homestuck have to say

[sleek granite]

oh that was a dhmis reference

wistfully thinking about nil - The Joker particle accelerator

[wanton rapids]

as one does

[sleek granite]

did you see it?

[wanton rapids]

the one where it does it 500 times?

[sleek granite]

yea

hee hee! hoo hoo!

[cunning silo]

now played cards can be associated with other suits!

[sleek granite]

i shoulda made him say "Again!" every time....

[cunning silo]

there's still this issue...

[sleek granite]

would it be possible to omit the dunmy suit from the suit totals?

[cunning silo]

but that's because it's still considered a tarot rn

[sleek granite]

interdasting

[cunning silo]

the problem with it will be placing the not-suited cards in the deck menu

currently it's just a placeholder though

[sleek granite]

oh

i just meant like dropping it visually

[cunning silo]

also they are not yet considered in hands and such

which i think is fine

for the most part

[sleek granite]

hm

[wanton rapids]

the most dubious run

[cunning silo]

6 cards ):

[sleek granite]

will it be possible to specify a rank that the card is pretending to be?

[cunning silo]

yes!

[sleek granite]

sick

can it be changed dynamically?

say, card that increments by 1 if held in hand....

oh ig theres two timings for pcard calculate huh

[cunning silo]

maybe

oh ill do you one better

[fallow bramble]

What the bowling ball do?

[cunning silo]

there won't be an eval card hook

[sleek granite]

porque

[cunning silo]

there will be a hook for each of the little functions

[wanton rapids]

+10 mult and +60 chips when a three is played

[sleek granite]

happy little functions :)

[fallow bramble]

Oh wow

[cunning silo]

chips
mult
xmult
dollars
edition

all of that

[sleek granite]

sick

[wanton rapids]

the run is dead.

[sleek granite]

maybe omit edition unless these cant be editioned?

[wanton rapids]

had to sell blasphemy (augh)

[cunning silo]

they can be editioned

[sleek granite]

leave that to an edition api

[cunning silo]

oh yeah sure

[sleek granite]

feels like the card shouldnt be hooking that

[cunning silo]

makes sense

[sleek granite]

the one time ill be against more features

but what about dollars from gold seal .. and repetitions....

hm

calculate_seal is weird to hook into as the pcard thi

tho* gdi fat fingers

[cunning silo]

BTW @lavish jackal could you send me the oil?

[wanton rapids]

shit.

[sleek granite]

i assume we'll be able to do descriptions

can these be enhanced?

[cunning silo]

no

[fallow bramble]

Gg

[sleek granite]

makes sense

might be a tiny bit weird to players tho

[lavish jackal]

hows this so far feder

[cunning silo]

ooh

i like the cracked ground

[lavish jackal]

or more lke

[sleek granite]

if there's a collection tab fir these maybe specify that special pcards cant be enhanced

[fallow bramble]

What if the stone had an impact like it was dropped on the ground?

[lavish jackal]

i think this works

[cunning silo]

really like it

BTW @sleek granite you cannot have ranks

[dapper helm]

playable oddities....

[cunning silo]

in the future it will be possible

[dapper helm]

i can't wait to use the cool lookin rock i found on the ground in poker hands

[lavish jackal]

s t o n e

[dapper helm]

playable glitter bomb oddity....

[lavish jackal]

shall i send you these 2 feder

oil and stone

[sleek granite]

every thaumcraft aspect as an alchemical card go

[lavish jackal]

aspect? 👁️

homestuck refranc..

[sleek granite]

theyre more like alchemy things

[dapper helm]

akai what does hope do

[sleek granite]

https://m.ftbwiki.org/List_of_Aspects_(Thaumcraft_6)

[wanton rapids]

what list of alchemical symbols are you using btw

[lavish jackal]

hell knows yet

[lavish jackal]

the ones im given

[sleek granite]

wait do you actually not have a hope effect

👀

[lavish jackal]

ye

[sleek granite]

(i have not gotten to aspects in housetrapped yet)

(shit i havent gotten to trolls either hhhhh maybe ill do some light reading this morning reads 4000 pages)

[lavish jackal]

btw this is what im listening to rn

https://unofficialmspafans.bandcamp.com/track/crystalmethequins-broken-bad

[dapper helm]

god

[gilded vortex]

There’s no god here only Homestuck

[sleek granite]

theres no home only house

[wanton rapids]

hm. what alchemical symbol should i make for colour alchemy compat

[wanton rapids]

which is called?

[sleek granite]

lapis

lapis lazuli to be formal

[wanton rapids]

ok that looks good

[sleek granite]

lazurite to be hip

[dapper helm]

chair symbol

[wanton rapids]

is there an alch. template?

[sleek granite]

chair

[gilded vortex]

chair

[dapper helm]

i think so but i don't know where to find it

[sleek granite]

its in your mind

(or just take one of rhe existing alch.s and blank it out)

[dapper helm]

true

[wanton rapids]

ok done

[sleek granite]

what if there was a final fantasy balatro mod

[dapper helm]

now why would that be a thing

[sleek granite]

uhhhhhhhhh

boneless hamburger

idk ive just always liked FF

isaacmod first tho theres an actual overlap of isaac and balatro fans that isnt literally just me

[dapper helm]

real

follow your dreams

[grand geode]

i wonder who it is

[strange pendant]

Yo hi

[sleek granite]

need black mage jimbo.... dragoon jimbo.....

[strange pendant]

I've been on the path to dead God for like two years now

[sleek granite]

is that mine

[dapper helm]

chocobo egg oddity?

[grand geode]

is it

[sleek granite]

oh no its probably yours that makes more sense

sorry im. in a state.

chocobo egg oddity that hatches after ???? into a random chocobo joker.

[dapper helm]

i'm in a sleepy state

questionable ideas only

[lavish jackal]

new mod idea

homestuck in balatro

never done before

[sleek granite]

yellow chocojoker is a boring +chips or +mult thing

[sleek granite]

oh thats a good idea ill get right on it

[lavish jackal]

btw autumn

do you want someone (me) to make the runes cards

[sleek granite]

runes...?

[cunning silo]

send the thingis

please

[lavish jackal]

will do

stone

oil

[lavish jackal]

whatever jera is

[cunning silo]

coolio

[wanton rapids]

lapis background, in progress, meant to look like mixing of dyes or paints or whatever(?)

[lavish jackal]

you should frizzle it a bit

[sleek granite]

ohhhhh

[cunning silo]

Destruction and Abundance?

is this HSR?

[sleek granite]

i was gonna do those as blinds i think

[wanton rapids]

oh perchance

[sleek granite]

bc theyre letters

[lavish jackal]

nooo do them as card

[cunning silo]

is there Nihility or Preservation or Harmony or Erudition or Hunt?

[sleek granite]

chat it js fucking freezing outside

[lavish jackal]

please please do them as card

[sleek granite]

por que no los dos

[lavish jackal]

but i wanna make pretty art for them

waaah

why do you hate me

they are so card shaped

blinds should be references to isaac bosses

[sleek granite]

ok im sorry ;-;

[lavish jackal]

yay!!

[wanton rapids]

looks kinda cool with random displacement

[lavish jackal]

no not like that

[wanton rapids]

mb

[lavish jackal]

can you send it to me

the one before displacement

i wanna show you

[wanton rapids]

it's in gimp,

but ok

[lavish jackal]

just send me the png

of the bg

[dapper helm]

new consumable type...

[lavish jackal]

sth lke this

[wanton rapids]

ah i see

[lavish jackal]

makes it look more natural

[wanton rapids]

mhm

[lavish jackal]

less mechanical

[wanton rapids]

got it, thanks

[lavish jackal]

its an ancient homestuck technique

[dapper helm]

passed down for generations

[sleek granite]

nah theyll be oddities

same with pills

[wanton rapids]

thanks for the advice

[sleek granite]

can this technique be learned? (who am i kidding its an art thing i cannot learn it (im in the wrong skill tree ( like a loser (fuckin pathetic nerd speccing all his points into programming (dumb idiot)))))

[lavish jackal]

its pretty simple tbf

[sleek granite]

oh

[lavish jackal]

you just have to carve in shapes into simple shapes

thats how you fake ✨ complexity ✨

[sleek granite]

you lost me

[wanton rapids]

probably a bit overdone

and that one bit is way too thin

[lavish jackal]

imperfections are good

[wanton rapids]

i suppose

[dapper helm]

you complex-ified this

[lavish jackal]

if it feels too thin

[sleek granite]

rember this is just the background

[lavish jackal]

add a line

but keep it lke

[wanton rapids]

yeah it's the background lol

[sleek granite]

still gonna be a chair on top of it

[lavish jackal]

sketchy

also nearly half of my jonklers use that method

[sleek granite]

thats why ur the art guru

[lavish jackal]

i also use reference

all the tmie

[sleek granite]

thats why ur the art guru

[dapper helm]

working without reference is simply impossible and should not be done

[lavish jackal]

like, have you seen my take on the ortalab stonehenge virtue

[sleek granite]

ye

[sleek granite]

i don think i could everr do smth like that

[dapper helm]

so much dithering

[lavish jackal]

yeah

you see it less when its not so upclose

[dapper helm]

dither master

[sleek granite]

everyybondy on puter better than me

[wanton rapids]

um does this look ok for the actual symbol

(without shading etc.)

[lavish jackal]

curve it in slightly more

the curved leg

curve it in more

not by a lot though

also switch to asperite, it's much easier to do pixel art in it

[wanton rapids]

perchance.

[lavish jackal]

thats good

although

add a pixel here

just one

[wanton rapids]

oh right

yeah i see

[lavish jackal]

also alchemicals are done with a thickness 3 brush

not thickness 4

[wanton rapids]

ah i see

[sleek granite]

yall use brush thickness?

[lavish jackal]

i do

[rare shell]

is there any reason not to use it?

[wanton rapids]

tweaks applied

[dapper helm]

i look forward to seeing your art someday

[sleek granite]

it looks so frail and weak now

no you dont

[lavish jackal]

make it lightly smaller

like 1 sec

[dapper helm]

i look forward to seeing my art when i actually finish something...

[sleek granite]

here

heres my art

[dapper helm]

sick

[lavish jackal]

here you go @wanton rapids

[wanton rapids]

ok

[lavish jackal]

can i get my hands on this..

[sleek granite]

lyman already did

[lavish jackal]

cryig

[dapper helm]

akai gonna accidentally make the art for every consumable

[sleek granite]

smh akai is a fake fan hasnt even played my mod

[lavish jackal]

lyman beat me to t

[sleek granite]

this is still just the basegame satellite card

but on a panet

planet

plantera

[dapper helm]

really?

[sleek granite]

its colors are a bit different

but yeah its just the vanilla Satellite plastered on a planet

as it is in current Thac

[dapper helm]

huh, satellite looks way better as a planet card

[sleek granite]

compare

[foggy crag]

work smart not hart

[wanton rapids]

dubious effect

[sleek granite]

too much

[wanton rapids]

i suppose

[sleek granite]

idk

im just a hater

[foggy crag]

gaelement

what is this?

[wanton rapids]

lapis, colour card + alchemical compat

[foggy crag]

quintesse?

[wanton rapids]

add 4 rounds to colour cards or smth

[foggy crag]

oh ok

[sleek granite]

not quite in line with alch design

[wanton rapids]

yeah

hm

[sleek granite]

but idk a better way

[foggy crag]

you just use different versions of the same color

on electricity

around the symbol

it's usually one solid color, no?

[sleek granite]

colors is The Point

thats The Gimmick

[foggy crag]

no no I mean they use different shades of blue

red, green etc.

they should be solid colors I think

(not a single color necessarily)

[dapper helm]

oh true

the lightning isn't shaded afaik

[rare shell]

that sounds so funny

[foggy crag]

Don't take me out of context I beg you

[rare shell]

colors do not exist, it's simply your brain tricking you into thinking that red and green exist, but actually there's only blue

[foggy crag]

The lightning is the supposed to be, you know... light? It doesn't need shading

[dapper helm]

the 3 shades of blue: blue, red and green

[half crescent]

lord of the deep down is doing impressive work for the first dog programmer

[sleek granite]

they're a programmer?

[foggy crag]

caught you

[half crescent]

dogs are colorblind. that's what I meant to say

[foggy crag]

no one will ever know now...

[dapper helm]

dog artist frfr

[rare shell]

my headcanon for sixsuit colors (this is just a little bit of trolling nothing else)

[foggy crag]

xD

[half crescent]

then who was phone?!

[foggy crag]

when's the sex suit?

[carmine mortar]

Lusty

[foggy crag]

[rare shell]

[foggy crag]

oh, right

[lavish jackal]

why is it called six suits when its obviously 8 suits

[wanton rapids]

"colour cards give 1.5x mult while held this round"?

[sleek granite]

need bunco + six suits + ink and color + balatrostruck + sixty suits

[dapper helm]

insta win

[cunning silo]

• musical suit

[sleek granite]

musical suit does ungamery things

like crashing

[rare shell]

my face when mod name changes accordingly to the amount of suits in game

[lavish jackal]

also there are only 7 deadly sins

what did they do for the 8th

[rare shell]

there's possibilities for fanmade sins

I think I brainstormed some at some point

one sec let me find

[dapper helm]

this is fanon for a mod combo that wouldn't work well

[wanton rapids]

hm

how do i add alchemical card

[carmine mortar]

Dante Alighieri type thinking

[rare shell]

• Corruption
• Gambling
• Relentlessness
• Resentment
• Regret

[sleek granite]

we can sin in new and more interesting ways

[carmine mortar]

Fraud

[cunning silo]

Like how you would add every other card just in CodexArcanum.Alchemical

[wanton rapids]

alr

[cunning silo]

But I would advise you to wait until version 1.1

[dapper helm]

Regret is the most fitting imo but gambling is funny

[wanton rapids]

mhm

[cunning silo]

I expanded the API a lot

[sleek granite]

itay are you making Codex support CodexArcanum.Alchemical:new{...}

[cunning silo]

Yes

[sleek granite]

WOOOOO

TABLECALLS MY BELOVED

[rare shell]

gambling could be reworded if anything

it's like "taking everything with chance even if there's not any"

[sleek granite]

this is peak performance

[wanton rapids]

tablecalls are weird

i dont like them

[dusk geyser]

i think a mod that adds like cat jokers would b cool

[cunning silo]

Ooh I’ll work on making locked alchemicals now

[cunning silo]

Yessssss

[carmine mortar]

Alchemical cards that have stronger benefits but downside sounds fun

[dapper helm]

someday i'll get around to making a cat texture pack for playing cards.... (i probably won't get around to it)

[rare shell]

satisfying v2 (the moons and stars don't even look like that)

[dapper helm]

like a spectral?

[sleek granite]

i believe in u and ur ability to do it

firch i think ur the only person who cares this much about the color of the suits

[round ore]

I have a question for some of you modders, assuming you guys may know. I cannot get the steam mod loader to work, it just wont open the console so the game wont mod, shoudl i revert out of the beta or perhaps turn off my windows firewall stuff?

[sleek granite]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217867725532041369

[gilded vortex]

I care that the Clubs should be green

[lean dune]

💀

[dusk geyser]

"NOOO YOURE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME!!"

the seven jokers:

[gilded vortex]

That’s about it

[rare shell]

yeah I just like when everything is lined up and nice and doesn't feel too out of place

[dapper helm]

lovely hotkey

[sleek granite]

i have that post followed just to copy the link for people

[gilded vortex]

Mods, pin that comment

[rare shell]

yeah I know lol

[lean dune]

classic injector is about ready to be killed once 1.0 is a thing

[sleek granite]

kid named classic injector:

[dusk geyser]

id honestly kill for a pink theme for balatro

[rare shell]

NOOO it's the only thing I understood how to use

[dusk geyser]

green is a nice colour n all but i want pink

[dapper helm]

wtf firch

lovely is so much easier

[sleek granite]

i mena

mean

if we get Real Instructions

in the Steamodded Readme

instead of "hey this exists and can be used :)"

[cunning silo]

Missing magenta

[dusk geyser]

when is workshop gonna open

i dont wanna do like 500 steps for a mod

[dapper helm]

nonono keep it that way so theres no one like firch to miss the classic injector way

[grand geode]

10 years

[dapper helm]

its like 4

[rare shell]

magenta gets too close to hearts and to halberds :(
if hearts didn't have 3 different tints of reddish and pink that'd be more okay

[cunning silo]

Black?

Maybe gray

Or brown

Or silver

[lavish jackal]

feder did you get the cards

[sleek granite]

i dont think theres plans for workshop

workshop mods would be limited anyway

i dont think steamodded would ever get greenlit

[cunning silo]

Stone and oil

Yes

[rare shell]

black/gray/white are achromatic so idk

[sleek granite]

why not just stab your eyes instead

[rare shell]

👍

[sleek granite]

[dapper helm]

interesting proposition

[rare shell]

me after stabbing my eyes:

[dapper helm]

i'm already

[sleek granite]

chat ive been home for an hour and accomplished nothing am i wasting my life

[rare shell]

me too... 😔

[dusk geyser]

if youre not playing balatro then youre wasting life

[sleek granite]

true

i should read more homestuck

you're right

[lean dune]

yeah I'll make sure of that

[jovial notch]

Morning peoples of mod chat

(Ok bye lol)

[dapper helm]

gm mittens

[sleek granite]

im sorry

[dapper helm]

no you're jimbokin jesterkind

[round ore]

to the user who linked me earlier to steammodded help page, thank you but it was actually just my antivirus blocking it from opening so i had to turn it off

but thank you

[cunning silo]

umm...

this image is cursed

[sleek granite]

unlock api

[cunning silo]

i think that unlocking conditions are already a thing

it's just stuff for Codex

[sleek granite]

honestly its more just that nobody's done it yet so i have no idea how to do it lul

[grand geode]

it's because unless the mod is really big having everything be locked kinda sucks lol

[sleek granite]

i dont know how to do things i just copy other people (i am a fraud and a moron)

[lavish jackal]

feder you should let me know how you did unlock conditions

[cunning silo]

hahahaha

funny

[lavish jackal]

i would love to make balatrostuck a proper fleshed out experience

[cunning silo]

like I even started unlock conditions

[lavish jackal]

with jokers you unlock

[sleek granite]

you can probably just hook check_for_unlock and then call that somewhere where it's relevant

[cunning silo]

yup

that's what ill do

[sleek granite]

we should probably make sure there's some Sanity to it though

as like, a community thing

mod prefixes at minimum

[lavish jackal]

yeah

we need to standardize it

and enforce that via smods

otherwise it'll be a shitshow

[supple cypress]

What do alchemicals do

[stiff summit]

basically Short-term consumables that you can use in a pinch

their effects are usually restricted on "this blind" or "next hand" basis

[cunning silo]

yup!

[lean dune]

hm yeah I've been wanting to add that to smods

[sleek granite]

man,
it'll be so cool when i learn how to make things

[kindred swallow]

Same.. so true

[lean dune]

what are we thinking about enforcing mod prefixes?

[gilded vortex]

Story of my life

[lean dune]

as in, on center keys

[sleek granite]

i'm down for mod prefix enforcema

[gilded vortex]

I added a new key to the G variable with my mod name for a custom global

[grand geode]

yes please

[gilded vortex]

So having it standardized would be good

[grand geode]

and on that note make comparing to the key instead of ability.name the standard

[lean dune]

it is for all things internal

[lavish jackal]

good!!

[lean dune]

i.e. the modded is retrieved by its key

[sleek granite]

Unlocked!

[umbral pilot]

unlocked?

[grand geode]

Alchemical

Unlocked!

Joker

[lavish jackal]

oh yeah that issue

been having it as well

[sour vortex]

Has anyone been able to figure out getting modded going on Mac version?

[cunning silo]

you need to remove the text object

[lavish jackal]

how so

[cunning silo]

there's the remove() method in objects

for example:

[sleek granite]

as i previously stated,
zeus reaching down into layers and layers of nodes to smite the text

[cunning silo]

no more text at the corner!

[strong swift]

yeah i think i'm just gonna be pressing 1

[sleek granite]

just use unlock all

speaking of which

it'd be super dope if someone patched unlock all to be proactively applied

instead of just applying once when you hit the button

[lean dune]

I'm afraid of fucking up saves again, so no thanks

[dapper helm]

awesome, i'm gonna unlock this through normal play 👍

[cunning silo]

BTW there is a bug with saved content

[dapper helm]

wdym

[sleek granite]

awesome im gonna specifically try to never unlock this

[cunning silo]

the SMODS saving mechanism does not save if a consumable is locked or not

[dapper helm]

incorrect answer. @ mods send this user uranium

[cunning silo]

Woe
Uranium be upon ye

[sleek granite]

yummy

[gilded vortex]

I noticed there's a G.GAME.dollar_buffer variable but I'm not sure why. My suspicion is that it's storing the $ gained while scoring a hand because the actual gains only happen later, but it's not clear to me if that's true

[gleaming talon]

you could test it

[astral glade]

good morning chat, its time for crime

[wanton rapids]

(yay!)

[sleek granite]

good morning chat

been here the whole time actually but hi

[astral glade]

gonna release the pray button once i reach around 40-50 events

[cunning silo]

Good morning!

[sleek granite]

pray event that uses offering

[cunning silo]

Things happened while your were asleeep

[sleek granite]

wait what happened

i missed it

[cunning silo]

Playable cards

[wanton rapids]

wait what happened

oddity that draws itself to hand

[cunning silo]

Playing hand cards

[wanton rapids]

do it

[cunning silo]

Or at least the start of it

[sleek granite]

oh thats right feder made it so we can make a regular Joker

[cunning silo]

Already done

[wanton rapids]

oh?

[cunning silo]

It’s up here

[dapper helm]

good morning newt

[cunning silo]

I’m on mobile and scrolling kills my phone

[dapper helm]

i am praying for crime payout from the pray button 🙏

+3 hands, lose all discards

[gilded vortex]

Playable Jokers when

Every since I first played Balatro that's been my dream

[sleek granite]

i mean

[astral glade]

oh yeah cant you spawn like any card into your hand?

like jimbo

[sleek granite]

with what feder's cooking, you should be able to make a Joker playable

[dapper helm]

wait thats a lot

[dapper helm]

the sequel to joker tarot: joker playing card

[sleek granite]

i have a hunch that a lot of them are just "do this spectral card's effect"

[astral glade]

sorta

[sleek granite]

wrong reply

[astral glade]

real

[cunning silo]

But you can’t view them in the deck menu

[sleek granite]

(this is old)

[cunning silo]

And they break if you choose more than 5

[dapper helm]

my favorite spectral

[cunning silo]

And they don’t give any effects

[sleek granite]

yea

[cunning silo]

My hopes are to change that

[sleek granite]

feder is making the game based

[astral glade]

hell yeah

[cunning silo]

It’s scorching hot here and I’m on my way to a D&D game help

[astral glade]

im at 27, so it shouldnt be too hard

[sleek granite]

god i wish it was warm

[cunning silo]

And I’m early by like 30 mins

[sleek granite]

its so cold where i am

[cunning silo]

It’s like 36C right now

Help

[sleek granite]

fuck whats a celsus

[astral glade]

european

[sleek granite]

it is two celsus here

[lavish jackal]

17 celsius

i win

[rare shell]

hi

[gilded vortex]

👀

[lavish jackal]

lyman can you make a blahaj joker

[sleek granite]

wait actually

based?

[astral glade]

yeah make a blahaj joker

we need it

[sleek granite]

me and my blahaj ~4 feet away from me want to see this

[gilded vortex]

I just want to make a Joker that's also an Ace of Spades

[lavish jackal]

i have 2 blahaj on top of me

[sleek granite]

i wish i had 7 blahaj

[gilded vortex]

Like the Ace of Spades from the main menu

[distant root]

do we have a way to check for updates of existing mods?

[sleek granite]

they're so hard to get a hang of here

[lavish jackal]

blahaj are so cool

i love then

them

shonk

[astral glade]

i wish i had one

[gilded vortex]

By the way, the API should check for mod versions

[sleek granite]

i would replace my bed with a pile of blahaj

[wanton rapids]

i have two blahaj behind me

[gilded vortex]

Maybe it's obvious for API devs but I just noticed that

[distant root]

I mean something like a mod manager, so I don't need to visit the github or whatever page of every mod by myself

[sleek granite]

the api has no concept of mod version though

[lavish jackal]

lyman the people have spoken

[gilded vortex]

That's why it needs to be added

[cunning silo]

Mods themselves don’t have a concept of versions

[sleek granite]

r2modman soon™️

[gilded vortex]

"needs"

It's a suggestion

If you want cross-mod compatibility

I think this makes sense

[lavish jackal]

i feel like a standardized mod experience is something to strive for but not necessarily something we should try to make happen at all costs

Over time a standard will clarify, but forcing it too early can make the landscape more confusing than it needs to be

[gilded vortex]

forcing it late can also lead to 15 competing standards

[sleek granite]

forcing it late will lead to 1 competing standard

the one Steamodded forces

[white scarab]

Balamod:

[lavish jackal]

Balamod stinks

[astral glade]

balamod isnt real, just a dream

[lavish jackal]

Steamodded is where its at

[cunning silo]

Trueeeeeee

[gilded vortex]

You have to let it go, MathIsFun. It's been 2 years

[lavish jackal]

the accident wasnt your fault

[sleek granite]

the accident was your fault, but it was funny so everyone forgave you

[lavish jackal]

do not listen to autumn

[sleek granite]

yes that is the terms and conditions that every chatroom im in should have

[lavish jackal]

explodes you violently

[sleek granite]

deltarune ass animation

[gilded vortex]

Out of curiosity, what do you think about using other people's Jokers in mods (with permission)?

I guess it's like mod compatibility but more limited 🤔

[sleek granite]

weird

[wanton rapids]

with permission?

[sleek granite]

i didnt say it was BAD

just WEIRD

[wanton rapids]

yeah

i'd agree

[cunning silo]

If it’s to enable compat, like adding a fusion, I think with permission it’s fine

If not, its odd

[sleek granite]

cant you just add a fusion anyway

[cunning silo]

Yup

[sleek granite]

thats what lyman's doing no

yea

[cunning silo]

There’s an api for that

[sleek granite]

so idk what point that would serve then

[cunning silo]

I meant like, using their joker in a fusion

Without their permission

[sleek granite]

honestly i think it'd just be better if you get in touch with the person to make whatever changes you'd need them to make

[cunning silo]

^

[gilded vortex]

I don't think I'll do it because I'd rather come up with some original Jokers, but I saw someone else's design which I found: 1) very smart; and 2) would synergize very well with the Jokers I'm making

[sleek granite]

whether that be like a github PR or just messaging them

[gilded vortex]

Without a compatibility API I'd rather add it separately (with credit and other conditions), and maybe try to redo the art (for fun more than anything, but I can understand if they're rather it use their or their collaborators' artwork)

But again I'm making a small mod to learn so I'd rather implement my own original Jokers, so probably I won't do that

[rare shell]

im back from my walk

if its like a joker idea i can see it

i know ive accidentally remade a jonkler someone else made before

[gilded vortex]

I was in a community which made fan designs for a card (no modding though) and often people would have the same idea, so arriving independently at the same idea I find expected

[rare shell]

snap player

[supple cypress]

@white scarab how did you get the seed searcher to emulate lua math.random()?

[gilded vortex]

But since I saw it, I think it'd be more honest to ask to use it rather than just doing it

[rare shell]

[sleek granite]

lyman blahaj joker....

[gilded vortex]

yes

[wanton rapids]

hm

what would a
x2 mult
-1 consumeable slot

joker be called

[rare shell]

jokerables

and it looks like lunchables

[gilded vortex]

I'm working on a similar idea (it's different but it functions similarly)

[rare shell]

or like a packaged lunch

[gilded vortex]

Lunch box?

[wanton rapids]

hm

[rare shell]

well its disposable

[wanton rapids]

"boring joker"?

[rare shell]

one of these

[wanton rapids]

"nebulous joker"?

[rare shell]

since its like

[gilded vortex]

Sir Snack-a-lot

[rare shell]

its a meal so it takes up the joker AND a consumable slot

[white scarab]

The game uses LuaJIT for that, and that is open source

[rare shell]

snicker snack

[white scarab]

So I ported over that code to OpenCL

[wanton rapids]

hm

[rare shell]

honestly if you dont use snicker snack i will just so i can cause PTSD to every hearthstone player

[wanton rapids]

go ahead

[gilded vortex]

shaking my mimsy borogoves

[rare shell]

[gilded vortex]

Ooh do you want a design for that?

[rare shell]

sure hit me with it

[white scarab]

https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/blob/v2.1/src/lj_prng.c

https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/blob/v2.1/src/lib_math.c

These two files have the code for Balatro’s math.random

[gilded vortex]

A Joker that stores each Joker trigger during the round and releases a copy in the last hand

[supple cypress]

im assuming this prng is different to something i would find in a lua repl

[rare shell]

im not normally a fan of things that are more effects of blueprint and friends but that is a pretty funny one

[white scarab]

Yes

[rare shell]

im not sure how the hell id even do it but i do like that idea

that goes into the idea bank

maybe some hacky rearranging of mika's tarlton

[gilded vortex]

I mean it's My Jaws that Bite My Claws that Catch but in Balatro

[gilded vortex]

If I had more Jokers with "on buy" effects, I'd totally add a Jabberwock to copy those.

[rare shell]

oh i know

[rare shell]

[sleek granite]

sorry

[rare shell]

wh

why

i just woke up that sounds silly and fun

[gilded vortex]

Maybe @stone brook would have use for it in their SAP mod

[rare shell]

i should make a blahaj sprite and give it to arachneii

also now im thinkin about bein able to reference marvel snap but how do i do that in a way thats not just a marvel reference

(i have not played that game in nearly a year)

[gilded vortex]

Add three locations to Balatro

[rare shell]

lmfao

[gilded vortex]

Each location applies a different effect

I was actually thinking of some mechanic like that

[sleek granite]

space jace

[wanton rapids]

i mean people are making new card areas

[gilded vortex]

But it's very fuzzy, and nothing more than an idea tucked far away

[sleek granite]

SPACE BELEREN

[gilded vortex]

Artifact did it first shaking my lands

[wanton rapids]

do you feel this art is sufficiently boring for a "boring joker"

considering making the smile smaller

[gilded vortex]

No

The monochrome is interesting

[sleek granite]

he needs to have a neutral face

[gilded vortex]

Makes me think of Chaplin

[rare shell]

dont remind me of the absolute disgrace that is space beleren

[sleek granite]

what the fuck is artifact btw

[rare shell]

dota 2 ccg

[sleek granite]

im sorry

[gilded vortex]

Card game by Richard Garfield

[rare shell]

space beleren activates my rules text neurons really hard

[gilded vortex]

I know too much about MTG for someone who doesn't play it

[rare shell]

that entire sets black bordered cards activates my rules text really hard

[wanton rapids]

oh right unfinity had black bordered cards

anyways neutral expression

[gilded vortex]

Actually they'd active your activated abilities 🤓

[rare shell]

i cannot stress how disgruntled i am at the state of some formats where you can now play "mind goblin" and

1. mind goblin is not only a good card, but a fucking allstar card
2. its called fucking mind goblin

[gilded vortex]

They're judging me

[sleek granite]

wait was mr. space not an acorn stamp

[rare shell]

nope

[sleek granite]

what the fuck

so glad i stopped playing mtg

[rare shell]

id be perfectly fine with him if he was

thats my reaction to most of the cards from UNF

but instead they printed black border dog that goes nondeterministically infinite by itself

[gilded vortex]

Don't you mean "Name Sticker" Goblin?

[rare shell]

yes but calling it mind goblin is funnier

and folks in my circles and feeds refer to it as such

[sleek granite]

the mind goblin....

[gilded vortex]

Don't you mean _____ Goblin?

[rare shell]

technically its something like

gelatinous/phyrexian/i forgot the other one goblin

[wanton rapids]

wait stickers are in black border??

wtf?

[rare shell]

YEP

ITS VERY CRINGE

[gilded vortex]

As someone who doesn't play MTG: make it more cringe

[rare shell]

the 3 mana add 5-6 red mana!!!

[wanton rapids]

like sure

stickers are a fine un set gimmick

[rare shell]

unfinity was just not that funny tbh

the cards i dont like are legal and the cards i do like are

except for magar of the magic strings my beloved

[cunning silo]

I’m unironically the stupidest man alive

I was supposed to have a dnd session today

So I thought it was at one time

But it was 30 minutes after that

But I was already on my way

So I got to the place 50 minutes before the game

But that’s not all!

I went to eat dinner at a small place; and when I finished, I called my friend to check where he is

And do you know what he told me?

“Oh the game is in discord today”

30 minute bus drive BTW

And the game is starting in 5 mins

Fun

[rare shell]

[cunning silo]

That was a lot of text

Sorry

[rare shell]

dog

i just rambled about mind goblin for a good bit

are you just going to take the bus back home?

[lavish jackal]

lyman can you make blahaj joker theres a demand for it..

[rare shell]

ive agreed aaa

[lavish jackal]

les go

[cunning silo]

Yup

+anothet 10 minute walk

[gilded vortex]

Sorry to hear about you long trip

[cunning silo]

At least I get some exercise!

[hearty vault]

Well, if it is anything like my sessions the first thirty min don't matter anyway. Hope you have a good time 👍

[cunning silo]

XD thanks

[sleek granite]

chat in lieu of embarassing myself further with modding i have taken to homestuck
835 pages in like threeish days is probably pretty slow though

[grand geode]

WHAT

YOU ARE ACTUALLY READING HOMESTUCK

[sleek granite]

yes

i gotta be ready for balatrostuck's release after all

[fickle elbow]

im not : )

[languid hearth]

homestuck got me into in a still ongoing 2 year relationship god speed keep reading its good i still dont understand it

[smoky creek]

Enjoy dude homestuck is amazing and such a great internet time capsule. Make sure you read using the homestuck unofficial collection otherwise you won’t get the true experience!

https://bambosh.dev/unofficial-homestuck-collection/

[languid hearth]

is that the one that still keeps the flashes?

[smoky creek]

Yup!

[languid hearth]

thats awesome

[sleek granite]

yes im using that

[rare shell]

going on 7 years

🤝

respect

[sleek granite]

me, having just infodumped everything i know about the story thus far to my bf for 45 minutes:

[sterile temple]

it's crazy stuff

[gilded vortex]

Not the first person to get into a relationship because of Homestuck, probably

[cursive compass]

i wonder if it's any trouble to add a spectral that takes stickers off a joker

i'm kinda tempted to make a small separate mod that adds items for dealing with debuff jokers since its a concept i want to mess with

[gilded vortex]

I don't understand why one works and the other doesn't

[cursive compass]

i might also add a tarot/spectral that destroys a joker and gives $10 or something

[sleek granite]

neither will anyone else

[gilded vortex]

I'm close to posting my code because I'm looking at it and I don't see the difference

[sleek granite]

id say like maybe x2 sell value

[cursive compass]

that was another option i considered

[gilded vortex]

It crashed the game too

So something is wrong but Idk what

[cursive compass]

if i do this it probably needs to have a downside but i'm not sure what

maybe it just takes like $10

[gilded vortex]

Is j_real an existing slug or something

[sleek granite]

not that i know of

[gilded vortex]

Wait I think I found my error

Let's see if that was it

[sleek granite]

one day i hope to be as cool as Dave Strider thinks his brother is (ok /end homestuck derail)

[gilded vortex]

I can't wait to tell you about [REDACTED]

Well I can it's not that interesting

[fickle elbow]

[REDACTED] [REDACTED] is kinda [REDACTED]

[sleek granite]

one day i hope to be as cool as people who dont spoil things

[rare shell]

ok im back

trying really hard not to wake up on the wrong side of the bed today

[cursive compass]

actually i could easily just move the custom "bad xmult" sound to this

i'll probably add a couple debuff jokers to it as well just so it isn't completely useless on its own

not sure if i should make a custom sticker or rarity for them tho or what

if thats even possible

[rare shell]

ok chat time to work on morefluff fusions

[gleaming talon]

https://tenor.com/view/gotenks-goten-fusion-gif-19890927

[fickle elbow]

👍

[wanton rapids]

...
where's my fusion?
lyman!!!

[cursive compass]

if i do then i feel like they should have a term that sounds more "balatro-ey" than "debuff" actually

but on second thought maybe i should just not differentiate them at all, considering there are some vanilla jokers that could be considered undesirable already

...although it would be cool if they had common features like costing money to sell and being blacklisted from the shop. hm

[azure mulch]

HEY DONT SAY THAT

[dapper helm]

i woke up on the wrong side of the chair (i was woken up early for an appointment then had to sit and wait for said appointment for 3ish hours)

[cunning silo]

XD

[lavish jackal]

homestuck in balatro discord is not a derail, its a back on track type beat

[fickle elbow]

you can hide jokers from shop with a tag

if you talking about coding wise

[gilded vortex]

Two new Jokers

[cursive compass]

oh colors are part of morefluff? nice

[wanton rapids]

mhm

[dapper helm]

good cat art

[feral crater]

hey guys new here does anyone knows why all my textures in game are shuffled ? (after i installed mods ofc)

[gilded vortex]

Thank you. I eyeballed a photo from Wikipedia. I'll try to match it more closely when I do the final one

[dapper helm]

what mods do you have on

[feral crater]

mikas pack, pampa, olympus and jank jonklers

[rare shell]

chat ive heard back from the job

[lavish jackal]

yooo

[fallow bramble]

Lesgooo

[rare shell]

time to get a physical

at 9:30 in the morning

[gilded vortex]

Congrats!

[fallow bramble]

by "get a physical" you mean doing sports?

[gilded vortex]

They have to fight another candidate for the job

No biting, no hitting below the waist

[glad sedge]

i found myself meeting a limit with ectoplasm use despite having jokers that could take a negative effect. is there a hidden limit? i only had 2 jokers with ectoplasm

[stone brook]

good morning chat room

[wanton rapids]

good night chat room

[rare shell]

drawing my worst sprite yet

[gilded vortex]

Good morning!

[stiff summit]

Yo what's that mod called that adds an in-game deck creator?

[white scarab]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1211808102999924746

[junior comet]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but this function has been driving me crazy for the past hour.

local function x_joker_count(joker_cards)
    for u, v in pairs(joker_cards) do
        if v.ability.name == "Joker" then
            return 99
        end
    end
    return 5
end

If I swap the "Joker" above for one of my custom joker's names, the if statement fails. Is there something obvious I'm missing?

[stone brook]

what is joker_cards

is it G.jokers.cards

[junior comet]

Yeah

I'm calling it with x_joker_count(G.jokers.cards)

[neat crater]

hey does anyone know how to check for cards held in hand?

[neat crater]

also this is the right place to ask

[grand geode]

g.hand.cards

[neat crater]

thanks

[stone brook]

whats the error you get when you put your jokers in?

[junior comet]

I have a joker named "Argon Club", if I replace "Joker" with that the if statement fails, and it returns 5 instead of 99

Whereas here, with "Joker", the if statement succeeds and returns 99

[stone brook]

hmm

[junior comet]

Ah, nevermind, I fixed it

[stone brook]

o

nice!

[junior comet]

I forgot there was an ability_name variable, and thought it was checking just the name variable instead

Maybe I shouldn't be working on this at 3am

[cursive compass]

how do you prevent a joker from being sold without making it eternal

[orchid vault]

‘if sold loses the run’

or something

[gilded vortex]

Maybe try the can_sell function

[cursive compass]

oh true

hmm well i made it so you can't sell ANYTHING

i was like "oh, that was easy" and then i checked the jimbos...

[stone brook]

put return in front of can_sell_cardref

[cursive compass]

ohhh

thank you

[fickle elbow]

: ) First Release available now https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1226203695365099681

[cursive compass]

i also realized i should probably check if jokers are >= the limit rather than ==

[gleaming talon]

even if the function isn't supposed to return anything I just put return just in case

[gleaming talon]

Since it's possible you should yes

[cursive compass]

ok that wasn't too hard

wonder how difficult it is to make a card cost money to sell

[dapper helm]

bunco does it

[cursive compass]

would also probably want to make sure it reflects in the button and change the text to "remove"

oh sick

[dapper helm]

they just use -$ sell value for that tho

loan shark in case you wanna ctrl f

[cursive compass]

oh that's very straightforward

[dapper helm]

idk how they got around giftcard bugging it out tho so i think its probably worth checking exactly whats goin on

[fickle elbow]

:]

[cursive compass]

this runs on add_to_deck

so the extra value is negative rather than the sell cost

[dapper helm]

huh

[cursive compass]

so i guess gift card just makes it cost $1 less to "sell" each round?

i'm kinda curious what happened before

[dapper helm]

#1220084296346501201 message this was my guess at how it worked

just went from -$100 to $2

[cursive compass]

let me just check 2.0 and see what was different

oh it just directly set the sell_cost to -100

does it cost $-200 to sell now or am i just interpreting the code wrong

[dapper helm]

i haven't played since it was fixed so idk

[neat crater]

hey what {C:___} thing do you use to get the color of money in the description?

[cursive compass]

since the extra value is -200 -sell_cost i'd assume so since 3 - 3 - 200 = -200

[dapper helm]

money i think

[neat crater]

no that doesnt work

[cursive compass]

yea its money

[neat crater]

are you sure?

[neat crater]

oh

well sorry for doubting you, thanks

[dapper helm]

lmao no worries

[cursive compass]

another thing i was wondering about

how do you make a description "reference" another description, as in that other description pops up on the side

like how the chariot shows the steel card description to the left

[stone brook]

tooltips shudders

steamodded has tooltips built in iirc

[dapper helm]

i would do it the messed up evil way (possibly the normal way) and just create a tooltip with the description

[cursive compass]

but compat...

[dapper helm]

i hope theres an actually good way, there almost certainly is

[rare shell]

@wanton rapids behold

[dapper helm]

lyman cooking once again

[stone brook]

the way i added tooltips to every card technically should be compatible with everything

in super auto balatro

its kinda hard to explain tho

[dapper helm]

garf has always been a very philosophical cat

[rare shell]

and just for funzies

[neat crater]

sunday funnies part due

[dapper helm]

btw possibly incredibly dumb question but could you just put the thing's loc_def in a tooltip?

[gilded vortex]

Can you help me traverse the node tree?

[stone brook]

whatre you trying to get to

[cursive compass]

judging by what i'm seeing in the files the way the base game handles it is via info_queue

[gilded vortex]

I have code that works from Autumn and I'm trying to modify its code. Lemme show first what works

[stone brook]

this is how you add a tooltip to a card

[gilded vortex]

I made it look like this so I could try to understand it

generate_UIBox_ability_table_val.name =--
                    {
                        {
                            n=G.UIT.R,
                            config={
                                align = "cm"
                            },
                            nodes={
                                {
                                    n=G.UIT.R,
                                    config={
                                        align = "cm"
                                    },
                                    nodes=text
                                },
                                {
                                    n=G.UIT.R,
                                    config={
                                        align = "cm"
                                    },
                                    nodes={
                                        {
                                            n=G.UIT.O,
                                            config={
                                                object = DynaText({string = center_obj.subtitle.text, colours = {center_obj.subtitle.colour or G.C.WHITE}, float = true, shadow = true, offset_y = 0.1, silent = true, spacing = 1, scale = 0.33*0.7})
                                            }
                                        }
                                    }
                                }
                            }
                        }
                    }

I'm checking if center_obj_subtitle.text is a table, and if it is, to iterate over it to add multiple lines

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what do i even call the philosohpical joker + sunday funnies fusion

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But it didn't work

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menacing mondays??