⚙・modding-general

[lavish jackal]

the badges are now color matched to aspects

[sleek granite]

thats so cool

[wanton rapids]

oh that's cool

[sleek granite]

code research.... i always just say i speak code better than english lmao

i just have That Flavor Of Brain

[lavish jackal]

i used to be normal

then i learnt godot

and i became fluent in code

[sleek granite]

godot hurts my brain

[wanton rapids]

i want to learn godot but it's weird

[sleek granite]

but so do most actual Game Dev Engines

too much shit to look at let me just write code

[lavish jackal]

ive been on that godot grind for like

[wanton rapids]

fr

[lavish jackal]

so long now

[wanton rapids]

is it weird to prefer the kind of "draw it yourself" engines like love2d?

[sleek granite]

maybe i should learn love2d...

[lavish jackal]

a bit

not super weird tho

[sleek granite]

it would help that i am already fLuant

(ill see myself out)

[wanton rapids]

you should Learn Rust

[sleek granite]

No :)

[foggy crag]

is this like Alc. cards but more powerful?

[lavish jackal]

i love rust

[lavish jackal]

nothing like alchemy cards

these level up and give passive effects that affect every single round

[foggy crag]

Oh, like poker hands?

[lavish jackal]

also no

[foggy crag]

it's like upgradeable vouchers?

[lavish jackal]

also no

but also yes

but also no

[sleek granite]

but also yes

[lavish jackal]

They're exclusive

meaning that you can't have more than one active at a tmie

and they grant a passive effect that lasts for as long as that Aspect is currently active

example

[sleek granite]

Get a Hand!!

[lavish jackal]

Example 2

Example 3

they take no joker slot, can be levelled up, the catch is only one at a time can be active

[sleek granite]

why is Heart better for vriskabuild than light ....

[lavish jackal]

they're like a run modifier

[lavish jackal]

both are good

[sleek granite]

(for insta Lucky Break)

[lavish jackal]

most Vriska jokers spawn consumables

[sleek granite]

i mean Light is just generally cracked

oh nvm

[grand geode]

you don't need to have every enhancements for the blood one

the spectrals don't

[lavish jackal]

Thats weakminded

[sleek granite]

what if i perform a gamer move and put every enhancement, seal, and edition tooltip on Chance

[grand geode]

@ localthunk you're weakminded

[grand geode]

omw adding all spectrals to cards that generate spectrals

[foggy crag]

I almost understood, thanks👍

[grand geode]

and those spectrals will generate more tooltips

[lavish jackal]

btw since Autumn mentioned it

here's Light effect

[grand geode]

win

[sleek granite]

omw adding every tarot, planet, and spectral to Moon's tooltip

[sleek granite]

Observe Everything

[lavish jackal]

funny you say that

Light is associated with sight in Homestuck

[cunning silo]

actually, should I add the only gold hand?

[lavish jackal]

yes

Midas Blast

[sleek granite]

piss blast

[lavish jackal]

Midas Blast

[cunning silo]

what will it do?

[sleek granite]

lemon mishap

[lavish jackal]

give 1 chips 1 mult, 20 dollars

[cunning silo]

XD

[sleek granite]

should put subtitles

(this is just silly you do not have to at all)

[lavish jackal]

but yeah as far as Homestuck goes

[sleek granite]

WAIT what if i put all the isaac item descriptions as subtitles (since most are just funny quips)

cooking.....

[lavish jackal]

Light -> Aspect of Knowledge
Void -> Aspect of Abstraction
Heart -> Aspect of Identity
Mind -> Aspect of Consequence
Breath -> Aspect of Freedom
Blood -> Aspect of Community

[sleek granite]

those would go hard as subtitles yeah

[wanton rapids]

where's the low card hand huh

[lavish jackal]

fuck it. how do i do badge surgery

[sleek granite]

badge surgery or name surgery?

[lavish jackal]

badge surgery

I wanna put it under Aspect

[sleek granite]

check Dysnomia in local planets in modules/MoreConsumables.lua

[lavish jackal]

I will kill you

[sleek granite]

please?

[lavish jackal]

Autumn "i dont speak bottom" Mood

[sleek granite]

here you go

[lavish jackal]

i am killing you

i cant read this..

[sleek granite]

https://github.com/AutumnMood924/TheAutumnCircus/blob/2954bd1141527f202292bdd7e20b601d59670df2/modules/MoreConsumables.lua#L579

fine ill do everything for you /lh

the remove() calls kill the preexisting text

so you dont get upperleftcornerfloatingtext

[ocean rune]

@sleek granite there is a bug when you get the andy's stamp first then get a slot by a voucher, selling the card at this time will result in additional slots being deducted

[sleek granite]

how the hell

ok ill look into it

just to check it doesnt remove extra slots if you just sell the card outright, right?

(i.e. without the voucher involved)

[cunning silo]

I hate how fun this was XD

is it time for the hand API?

[sleek granite]

i love how it is just none of the planets at the top

[lavish jackal]

hell yes

[sleek granite]

handappy

[lavish jackal]

^

good name

[astral glade]

hello chat,, it is 5 am

[lavish jackal]

hii

i made the badges match the aspect color newt

[astral glade]

thats awesome

[viscid spear]

yooo that rules

[lavish jackal]

gonna do the same for Zodiacs

[cunning silo]

yeah I gotta make a hand api now XD

[astral glade]

oh goodness

[cunning silo]

because this exists now @astral glade

[astral glade]

the nether…

[sleek granite]

hi newt

[astral glade]

API API next

hi

[cunning silo]

wait newt

what are you workign on?

[astral glade]

with my own mod? just compatibility rn

[sleek granite]

newt is working on being awesome (success)

[cunning silo]

XD

[astral glade]

im thinking about making a silly one-off mod thoooo just for fun

[cunning silo]

oh nice

[sleek granite]

i should make more silly mods

[astral glade]

fr

[sleek granite]

i should make more mods

honestly ive just been taking it too slow

[viscid spear]

chat what deck should i play

i cant decide lol

[cunning silo]

soon...

[ocean rune]

@sleek granite There are no bugs when selling directly, and obtaining a voucher before getting andystamp will not make any mistakes.But if you first have an andystamp and then receive a voucher, then choosing to sell it will cause a bug

[sleek granite]

interesting

thank you

[cunning silo]

actually changing it to PokerHands

[sleek granite]

sorry, but can i ask you to check if the same thing happens with jimbo stamp and hand size vouchers?

[lavish jackal]

btw feder

ShowModded when

[cunning silo]

whaet?

[lavish jackal]

the mod that makes it so that

you have a modded tab for consumables

instead of having them out in the open

[cunning silo]

ohhhhh

[lavish jackal]

literally just have it be just that

no fancy bells and whistles

[cunning silo]

I really wanna make a very big PR to steamodded itself

that has this, handAPI and tagAPI

[lavish jackal]

yeah true

[astral glade]

tag api…

[cunning silo]

TagAPI exists within Codex rn

[lavish jackal]

you should also add a PR to like

[astral glade]

booster pack api too then?

[cunning silo]

but it will be moved from it when I release it

[cunning silo]

booster pack api is not real

[lavish jackal]

make it so that you can disable mods

[cunning silo]

it can't hurt you

[astral glade]

:(

[sleek granite]

packapi pls

[cunning silo]

you know what?

[lavish jackal]

i think disabling mods and dependency detection would be 2 good features

[cunning silo]

when I finish with hand API i will look deeper into it

[lavish jackal]

like, if I my mod has optional dependencies of like

Codex Arcanum and OddityAPI

It'd be nice if that could show up

[cunning silo]

i can do dependency detection

[lavish jackal]

yeah pretty much just like

show what dependencies are required

[astral glade]

balatrostuck alchemical cards….

[lavish jackal]

and which are optional

[cunning silo]

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

but I wanna finish handAPI first

[lavish jackal]

yeah fair

[astral glade]

adding my lithium alchemical card to my mod fr

[cunning silo]

since it's pretty easy

[lavish jackal]

so HandAPI, dependency detector, mod disable option

[cunning silo]

basically:

ShowModded
HandAPI
TagAPI
DependencyDetector
ModDisable (maybe)
BoosterPackAPI (maybe)

[sleek granite]

if federAPI is so cool why havent they made a federAPI 2?

[ocean rune]

@sleek granite jimbo stamp seems to have no bugs

[sleek granite]

that is bizarre

thank you for checking

[lavish jackal]

i think disabling/enabling mods from the menu would be very good because it'd make it way easier to like

test things

[astral glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221916334372290620/1232004917741228133/c_alchemy_lithium.png?ex=66288a3d&is=662738bd&hm=6b89c2c8a0d49cc93be30b5b5c1871831ca06b289aac59676112ceb829caa4a5&

this one

[sleek granite]

gonna look into this when i get home

[cunning silo]

oh wait you added it to your mod?

[wanton rapids]

dependency detection is already sort of a thing no?

[lavish jackal]

the background is a little bland, mind if i cook @astral glade

[cunning silo]

like, enforcing it

[lavish jackal]

🥺

[astral glade]

no, but i might

[cunning silo]

i see

cause i loved this art TBH

[astral glade]

want the aseprite file? it has layers

[lavish jackal]

giv

i will cook up a background..

trust me im good with backgrounds

[astral glade]

yeah i really couldnt make a good background

[lavish jackal]

source: Fluorite Octet

[astral glade]

tried a ton of battery themed stuff

[sleek granite]

akai we should collab

[lavish jackal]

we should..

[astral glade]

just make sure it has the same colors as the usual alchemical card,,,,,, consistency and all that

[sleek granite]

we should.....

[lavish jackal]

yeah i'll just use the colors that are already on it

[sleek granite]

aspect api when

cough

[astral glade]

zodiac api…

autumn-api

[sleek granite]

aure said no coremods tho

:(

[wanton rapids]

joker jam when

[astral glade]

consumable type jam

[lavish jackal]

no aspect/zodiac api

no aspects zodiacs to extend

sorry

[sleek granite]

whattttt

but what if i wanna add Isaac Aspects

[gilded vortex]

See, what I wanted to do with the Misprint code was to have a tooltip that cycled through multiple values to avoid a super tall tooltip

[sleek granite]

thats what they did

[gilded vortex]

Ooh that's such a good idea

[gilded vortex]

I think Knowledge is more related to Seers than with any Aspect, no? Maybe I'm wrong

[lavish jackal]

Light is Knowledge/Fortune

[sleek granite]

fourtune....

[astral glade]

fortune pack….

[gilded vortex]

Yesterday I released my first mod: Fish https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232074540633428028

[sleek granite]

based

[gilded vortex]

Not in that image I replied to

[sleek granite]

OH

i thought you meant octet

[cunning silo]

APIs are hard

I don't like them

[lean dune]

i approve of this... we should make steamodded 1.0 extremely massive

[cunning silo]

yessssssssssssssssssss

[grand geode]

moddisable should be modconfig

i need

[sleek granite]

aure did you see my second suggestion

[lavish jackal]

@astral glade thoughts

[astral glade]

hell yeah

[lavish jackal]

i'll clean up some shapes and send it to you

[astral glade]

gotcha

[lean dune]

I'll be on rewriting/refactoring most of what we currently have in steamodded, I just have a keyboard to build (and uh two more finals but who cares exactly) first

[astral glade]

i may put it in my mod but if feder wants it in codex arcanum ill give it to them

[lean dune]

idr let me see

[carmine mortar]

Is it me or does the symbol feel a bit thin?

[lean dune]

the scale_h and scale_w?

[sleek granite]

ye

[lean dune]

not sure if it should be in pos, but i think it's a good thing to have

[astral glade]

same thickness as the others, i copied the style using sulfur and arsenic

[sleek granite]

it does relate to the sprite's dimensions, so

i was also thinking of having animated card stuff in pos but again idk if thats Good

[lean dune]

could surely make that work

[sleek granite]

(its ok you can tell me my ideas are stupid)

[lean dune]

what if they aren't

[sleek granite]

ive never had a not stupid idea

[lavish jackal]

@astral glade it is done

[astral glade]

pog?

[lavish jackal]

check it out

[wanton rapids]

gros michel deck is back

[cunning silo]

oh this looks really good

[lavish jackal]

i have that gay homestuck scratchy swooshy effect hand

[astral glade]

you can use it if you like! it was done originally as spriting practice, but if its good enough im more than happy to give it to you

[cunning silo]

if you are going to implement it, I don't wanna take it from you

[carmine mortar]

Cavendish deck when?

[astral glade]

i dont have any ideas for it,,

[kindred swallow]

Finally some good food

[lavish jackal]

damn feder got a free alchemical

[round oar]

when gros michel deck goes extinct

[carmine mortar]

Cavendish Deck unlock con: reduce your deck size to 0 in a run using a Gros Michel deck

[naive niche]

i hope i don't get banned for saying this but i've been using the most popular collection of mods and the power levels on the added content is extremely low

my ability to win a run plummets with these mods

[lavish jackal]

dont worry Balatrostuck is coming soon

[naive niche]

and its most of the mods that add overwhelminly weak jokers

and consumables

[carmine mortar]

The Terraria experience

Mods make it exponentially harder

[naive niche]

i don't understand why its such a trend

[astral glade]

what mods are you using

ive never had any issue winning modded runs

[carmine mortar]

Quirky cards > anything useful

Quirky cards happen to be weak most of the time

[tall vessel]

Cavendish Deck: Start with Cavendish but it has 1 in 100 chance to go extinct.

[naive niche]

this is an issue i've had with balatro but its a game that gets significantly less fun the harder it is

[wanton rapids]

rainbow deck

[sleek granite]

my mod makes it harder to win

[carmine mortar]

Probability increases by 1 for each round played

[lavish jackal]

my mod adds Fluorite Octet :)

[astral glade]

REAL

[wanton rapids]

what mods do you have?

[naive niche]

i probably shouldve posted these but your mod made my game crash whenever anything showed up on screen

[sleek granite]

sick

[sleek granite]

how

[grand geode]

oh i should do that for bobm huh

[lavish jackal]

here are possible payouts

[sleek granite]

im going to go out on a limb here and say jellymod

[gilded vortex]

And x64 Mult

[kindred swallow]

Are you using JellyMod by any chance?

[gilded vortex]

I have a mod that shouldn't plummet your ability to win: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232074540633428028

Self-promo 💪

[astral glade]

real

[naive niche]

smd balatro mods
pampa jokers
bunco
deck creator (but i dont really use it)
fusion jokers (hasn't come up yet)
jank jonklers
mittmods
morefluff
mikas mod

[lavish jackal]

again, wait for Balatrostuck

[grand geode]

i've never heard of mittmods

[lavish jackal]

Balatrostuck adds random bullshit that breaks the balance hard

[sleek granite]

i wonder if bunco is it....

[astral glade]

mitten’s jokers

[grand geode]

ic

[sleek granite]

i wonder if mitten's jokers is it.....

[lavish jackal]

i havent even mentioned Zodiac cards

(this scales with level)

[naive niche]

ive also tried themed jokers and randomizer joker which have the opposite problem where its like impossible to lose

[astral glade]

you could always suggest buffs in the individual threads

[lavish jackal]

^

or wait for Balatrostuck

[sleek granite]

i will make a blind that debuffs every card from balatrostuck and removes your aspect

[astral glade]

im gonna hit you over the head with a plank of wood

[lavish jackal]

i will fucking kill you /lh /j

[sleek granite]

balance

[grand geode]

i will make a blind that removes all oddities

oh wait

[naive niche]

and codex arcanum and jellymod i had to uninstall because they were so weak

[sleek granite]

the gregtech/tcon drama....

[lavish jackal]

Also each Zodiac card has a different cool stacking effect

[astral glade]

does anyone actually use that one punch card joker

[carmine mortar]

Loyalty?

[astral glade]

i forgot the name of it

yeah

[grand geode]

what did mpregtech do

[astral glade]

loyalty card

ive never seen anyone use it in sincerity

[sleek granite]

made the game not load if tcon was loaded

[lavish jackal]

Blood jumpscare

[grand geode]

lmao????

[astral glade]

yeah ok

enhancements

[naive niche]

apparently jellymod is outdated is there a new version or is it just abandoned

[lavish jackal]

currently just outdated

no idea on status

also jellymod is kinda mid

[astral glade]

creator is busy

some people are working on doing some fixes iirc

[lavish jackal]

you know what isnt outdated

[sleek granite]

theres a whole laundry list of drama with gregtech

[grand geode]

yeah i'd rather have bad art (morefluff W) than ai gen art

[gilded vortex]

I saw it during the demo

[grand geode]

i've played like four hours of mpregtech i hate it here

[gilded vortex]

Shout out to Tyler

[astral glade]

morefluff has some cracked jokers

[strange pendant]

I'm a modded mc nerd I got this

[worn pumice]

I may have redeemed too many vouchers

[astral glade]

real

[sleek granite]

gregtech 🤝 betterthanwolves
being the worst shit ever

JIMBO STAMP SPOTTED

[astral glade]

THE FROST SPOTTED

[gilded vortex]

Nice tooltip!

[lavish jackal]

gee whiz its almost like overhaul mods suck and we should stop making them, you're not that guy, you are not making the base game better you're just making it worse

[sleek granite]

hee hee!
hoo hoo!
+1 hand size
FOR YOU!

[grand geode]

at least i found good btw content on yt

[sleek granite]

oh also terrafirmacraft

[worn pumice]

the holographic tooltip is missing

[sleek granite]

this should be fixed in next steamodded update, its not my fault wink

[grand geode]

steamodded issue, will be fixed next update dw

[astral glade]

steamodded moment

[worn pumice]

cool

[sleek granite]

nothing brings me more joy than "oh good that bug isnt my fault"

[lavish jackal]

CookieAlien do you wanna see an awesome card

get ready

get positively pumped

[sleek granite]

its gonna be the piss again isnt it

[strange pendant]

Basically gregtech changed the amount of planks you get from a wood log from 4 to 2
Tinkers construct uses wood in a fair few of its recipes and mechanics, and the author felt this made wood unbalanced in TC, and so when TC detected GT it changed the recipe back
GT author got upset and felt that TC was intentionally breaking their balance, and so set GT to crash the game on boot if it detected TC
TC responded by adding a few unkind lines to be pasted in the game chat if it detected GT

[lavish jackal]

fluorite octet time

[grand geode]

I actually got a GitHub issue about monster not returning consumable slots lol

[sleek granite]

oh thanks lmao

[worn pumice]

Pretty cool
I love RNG

[sleek granite]

oh shit github issues exist

[lavish jackal]

also oh yeah the piss joker

[worn pumice]

I got that issue last round so had to remove the mod

[sleek granite]

is that related to the andys stamp issue do you think?

[grand geode]

wow

[sleek granite]

like some shared thread

[grand geode]

ty

common mpregtech L i suppose

[carmine mortar]

What’s the Mr.Bones stamp flavour text/description

[sleek granite]

that leaves out some stuff too, myst

[grand geode]

you should yell at aure to publish the steamodded update

(don't

[sleek granite]

like how GT made you have to smelt metal blocks into ingots to return the ingots, but TCon lets you have fortune+autosmelt tools, and that meant 9 of a metal meant infinite metal, and GT had a huge crybaby fit about it

[astral glade]

im going back to sleep, goodnight chat

[lean dune]

great idea, please do that

[grand geode]

no, this one was just the defeat function returning the set_blind function instead

[sleek granite]

shit

[lean dune]

(yes that reply ping was fully intentional)

[grand geode]

bites you

[sleek granite]

lewd?

[lean dune]

I'm not releasing before 1.0.1 is released

[grand geode]

murderous intent

[lean dune]

[worn pumice]

this?

[lavish jackal]

Also please make it so that you can disable mods from the menu

And dependency detection with 2 tiers

Required dependencies (core mod won't work without them)

and Optional dependencies (for mod compat modules)

[lean dune]

sounds like a good candidate for steamodded 1.0 tbh

[grand geode]

steamodded 1.0 coming NEVER

[cunning silo]

yeah HandAPI is very close to completion

[strange pendant]

Nothing will be funnier than the landcraft incident

[lean dune]

me when "M_J"

[sleek granite]

voidcraft tho

[cunning silo]

it doesn't matter

[strange pendant]

I don't remember that one

[cunning silo]

look at the 3rd value

[lean dune]

(i know my six suits hand example does this)

blank moment

[cunning silo]

yeah it was based on your description XD

[lean dune]

yeah it doesn't matter for stones

[cunning silo]

the 3rd value can determine the enhancement

[lean dune]

still I should change that

[cunning silo]

nah M_J is funny

[lean dune]

for spectum hands it kinda does matter

[iron onyx]

virtuoso approved

[lavish jackal]

also, need to figure out how to handle cyclical dependencies ie.

[iron onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/ctyri-jhin-jhin-lol-jhin-league-of-legends-league-of-legends-gif-26009999

[lavish jackal]

if we have Jestobiology and Balatrostuck

[lean dune]

delaying it by another week because of this comment

[lavish jackal]

and both reference each other

It should work

[sleek granite]

aure im delaying you by a week

[lean dune]

what does that even mean

[lavish jackal]

btw Aure do you like Balatrostuck progress

[sleek granite]

get delayed nerd

[lavish jackal]

👁️

[lean dune]

yes 👁️👁️

[lavish jackal]

I am hard at work making all those. fucking sprites and shit

[lean dune]

gr8 work

[lavish jackal]

do you like the Fluorite Octet

[sleek granite]

i should probably like code things so i can maybe Catch An Artist

[lavish jackal]

it looks sooo pretty

[worn pumice]

when ante 8 boss has only 17k

[lean dune]

i do like misprint on steroids

[lavish jackal]

reminder

those are the payouts

[sleek granite]

me when i ate dollars

[worn pumice]

great
just got 7 vouchers from a voucher bulk

[lean dune]

me when i ate eight dollars at eight

[lavish jackal]

but yeah the octet is very cool and i love it

Also I wanna make this a Two Pair joker tbh, just not sure what effect exactly

like, not contains Two Pair

is Two Pair

[iron onyx]

btw, @lavish jackal
what i would do is have the probability roll in context.before
so then the +8 mult per scored card can be properly counted in context.individual like how the sin jokers do it

[lavish jackal]

could do

but thats for later

its aesthetcs

i guess if you have seals tho

but again

[grand geode]

is Mr. Bones' Stamp additive or multiplicative

[lavish jackal]

it works

[iron onyx]

increase the mult by both card values plus 2

[lavish jackal]

mehh

not another scaler..

I need some non-scalers

[iron onyx]

no like

just flat mult equal to the sum

[sleek granite]

multiplicative

[lavish jackal]

hm, could be

so like

[iron onyx]

and either +2 or x2 on top of that

[lavish jackal]

nominal of first pair + nominal of second pair?

[iron onyx]

basically yeah

[lavish jackal]

i like nominal of first pair + second pair, X2

[iron onyx]

perfect

glad i could help

[lavish jackal]

so at best it gives +40

with like

Face pairs

I can get behind that

[iron onyx]

wouldn't it be 42?

[lavish jackal]

guess with ace

yeah

[iron onyx]

yeah, AAFFx

anyway

[lavish jackal]

that's still pretty powerful value

[iron onyx]

mhm!

so

this joker sucks

[gilded vortex]

Should I temporarily add goto and continue to my code?

[iron onyx]

my thought to change that was to change his 16 start, to a 4

BUT

change the scaling from a flat 4

to 5 plus 2 more for every upgrade level

[gilded vortex]

Something to do with Chips and Mult IMO because colors

[iron onyx]

so it goes from 4 to 9, 9 to 16, 16 to 25

and so on, and so forth

[lean dune]

hell yeah square scaling

[iron onyx]

IT IS SQUARE JOKER

so it still works thematically

[wanton rapids]

triangle joker vibes

[sleek granite]

that math feels like it shouldnt be right but it is somehow despite God

[iron onyx]

yeah, i know

kinda funny how math works sometimes

[sleek granite]

dw i also exist to spite god so

[lean dune]

lol

[iron onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-donthugmeimscared-dont-hug-look-gif-5046911

[grand geode]

amazing

[lean dune]

where's my tooltip on what "Nothing" is

[wanton rapids]

i do you one better

[lavish jackal]

i mean yeah it converts base chip value into mult

[iron onyx]

i do apologize for reflexively responding with GIFs; let me know if it ever gets annoying ^^

[lavish jackal]

it basically adds up all the base chip value

and that's the mult it uses

[lean dune]

better make it count for stencil

[wanton rapids]

hm

[gilded vortex]

But weren't you saying you weren't sure about the effect?

[lavish jackal]

not anymore

i got a suggestion that i lke

[sleek granite]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-gifs-stop-sign-gif-15848460

/lh /j

[lavish jackal]

It basically adds equal chips and mult value

So it synergizes with stuff like

Hiker, Walkie Talkie, Bonus Cards

[cunning silo]

Done with HandAPI!

[lavish jackal]

!! lets goooo

[sleek granite]

lets glow!!!

[lavish jackal]

also feder do you like the effect for the new jonkler

[cunning silo]

so:
ShowModded (done!)
TagAPI (done!)
PokerHandAPI (done!)
DependencyDeterctor (starting)

maybe:
ModDisable (not yet started)
BoosterPackAPI (halfway there)

[lavish jackal]

nicee

[worn pumice]

rip my run
crashed when the reroll tag triggered after buying voucher pack

[lavish jackal]

hopefully we get optional deps and required deps

love it when a mod can have its content segmented depending on other mods

[west magnet]

Is there a way to have a mod change the texture of a joker to different sprites?

[lavish jackal]

yeah, there's plenty resources on that

[west magnet]

ooh!

[lavish jackal]

just check any texture pack mod

the source code is available on GitHub

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228899879883898931 here you go

this is a suits texture pack

but you'll get the ropes hopefully

its pretty straightforward

[wanton rapids]

can't you just check if SMODS.init.themod exists?

[west magnet]

I havent got an custom joker ideas, but I was thinking jokers like Popcorn would look cool if the sprite changes each time to visually show the joker is slowly degrading

[lavish jackal]

this is more about

actually showing that in UI

and also streamlining it

[wanton rapids]

i see

[lavish jackal]

like, there's a big difference between required deps and optional deps

[west magnet]

Seltzer would definitely benefit from seeing the soda gradually run out, saves the need of having to mouse over it to check how much its got left

[lavish jackal]

if a mod uses special APIs to do stuff then its like

Its a good idea to know what kind of APIs it wants

but also it's a good idea to know what mods a mod has compat with!

lke, Jestobiology is a submod right

But it has so many mods

So there are 2 options

Option A) Require all mods at once, making the experience super rigid

Option B) Make it so that these mods are optional dependencies that you can but don't have to use

But the issue with that is that it's not exactly a what you see is what you get system from the get go, there's no batteries included with that stuff

[knotty roost]

1 MILLION BILLION JONKLER

[lavish jackal]

so having a layer of abstraction that lets you set up that sort of optional conditional sorting and it figures out the UI for you is good

[cunning silo]

so i know how to make the dependencies possible

but I also have no idea as to how to do it

it would require me to do some source modding probably

[lavish jackal]

It'd likely be at Steamodded level

yeah

[cunning silo]

but yeah I know how to do it

[west magnet]

Exponential Mult, like ^2

[cunning silo]

it will probably look like this

[lavish jackal]

yeee

[west magnet]

5mult^2 = 25mult

[lavish jackal]

and then optional I'd presume

is it gonna be comma separated?

[cunning silo]

oh wait yeah

[west magnet]

There's a card game called Fluxx that could have some neat mod idea potential

[cunning silo]

like this

[lavish jackal]

yeeee

and optional deps in case you want to make modular content

like, loading in specific bits of the mod only if a mod is present

[cunning silo]

I wanna do required first

[lavish jackal]

yeah far

*fair

that's the most important

[cunning silo]

i also need to use Lovely for that

since I have no idea how to use it

[lavish jackal]

lovely method..

you can probably talk to the meth man

[grand geode]

you probably don't need lovely for this, doesn't steamodded keep track of all mod names before they get loaded

[west magnet]

Fluxx basically lets you add new rules to the game when you play certain cards, and some of the rules do some funky stuff

[grand geode]

oh wait that's. only the init right

[cunning silo]

yeah

but i wanna inject stuff into the methods that are injected by steamodded

ill probably use my script and take out the stuff later

[west magnet]

not sure if there are mod capabilities, but one Fluxx card adds a rule of "Add 1 to the value of any number listed"

could be a neat voucher

[gilded vortex]

I think I would prefer a separate file to list requirements but w/e

[small thistle]

same as other "food/consumable" joker

[lavish jackal]

rn the UI looks like this for the actual like, mod listings, I can try to do a small UI redesign

gve me 5

[west magnet]

yeah, though I wonder if it would become part of the base game. It seems like a pretty obvious change

[gilded vortex]

I think that would require a large overhaul. If it were a specific kind of number, then maybe it could be easier

[sleek granite]

federAPI: the squeakuel

[gilded vortex]

Since I’m here, does anyone know how the game handles different lines of text in the tooltip?

[west magnet]

well for custom jokers it might be hard to do it for those, but could the mod not just keep a list of every joker in the game with the modified change, then when the voucher is active, you just replace the default jokers with the altered version?

[gilded vortex]

As I said, large overhaul

[west magnet]

Perhaps, but as long as a single joker can be replaced with the altered version, it just becomes a matter of investing the time to add all the relevant jokers into the list

[lavish jackal]

feder do you think a separate UI display for like, missing dependencies would be good

@cunning silo

[west magnet]

I might dig out the Fluxx games I own, see what cards have mod potential

[lavish jackal]

I'm currently in Figma

[west magnet]

tarot potential maybe?

essentially just a free discard

[kindred swallow]

Hand size 11 goes brrr

[west magnet]

ooh, looking at my fluxx cards, theres potential for some cool stuff

[lavish jackal]

thinking of a way how to not intrude on the space

but also communicate information

that you really don't want to go into a separate window for

[gilded vortex]

Mallet

[gilded vortex]

Well, you can’t choose what not to discard

[west magnet]

shame it couldnt work in Balatro, but one Fluxx card reads "At the start of your turn, draw 2 extra cards if, since the end of your previous turn, you have refrained from speaking except for proper name or numbers. Noises are acceptable as long as they are unintelligible"

[lavish jackal]

this is what i came up with basically

if you have missing dependencies, a secondary thing pops up next to the mod name

and if you hover over it it will tell you what dependencies you're missing

simple and to the point

[cunning silo]

ill try doing that

but i cannot promise you that it will look like that

[lavish jackal]

that's fine

just concepting out like, the general "what would a player want out of a dependencies display"

[wanton rapids]

maybe make it really obvious for required deps

like

Big Red Text In The Bottom Left obvious

[lavish jackal]

oh yeah

can do

could always like

display a big red uh

list

underneath

but then you have to bento box this stuff harder

[wanton rapids]

nah

just override it to always draw at the bottom left of the screen for required deps

for optional deps

[wanton rapids]

that can be communicated this way

[sleek granite]

i am not installing sburbapi

[lavish jackal]

alternatively

[lavish jackal]

its just an example

[sleek granite]

(its joke)

i am chronically silly

[lavish jackal]

autumn do you like this display

[sleek granite]

tmodloader lookin ass

(ye)

[lavish jackal]

perfect

then optional dependencies can like

show up in the tab you get from clicking on the mod'

because it's less important information

[sleek granite]

i still wonder how deck creator put extra buttons and stuff in its mod desc...

one day i might even check

[lavish jackal]

but yeah you definetly want to have some kind of a way to view deps

[sleek granite]

ill view your dependencies

[lavish jackal]

inevitably we will reach a point where

mods will need a decent chunk of deps

simply because they make stuff easier

[sleek granite]

fargo's jokers mod....

[lavish jackal]

but what's like, obvious to modders

isnt so obvious to players

[iron onyx]

that's why i liked steamodder being so ubiquitous

[lavish jackal]

yeah! and it can be even better if we choose to fight the fight that is Balatro's UI system

Also can we get mod icons pretty please...

like, optional 32x32 mod icons would slap

or better, like, mini cards

[sleek granite]

crustyass mod icon

[sleek granite]

poggers

[lavish jackal]

we are getting there..

[sleek granite]

nothing at all wrong here

[cunning silo]

we sure are

[sleek granite]

feder is getting there

everyone else is just along for the ride

[lavish jackal]

feder do you like the idea of

little card icons

optional

so you can add a little card next to your mod

[sleek granite]

everyone make sure to pay respects to feder

[lavish jackal]

ughh i just had a silly idea

but it would require people to make like

the tiny icons

but hear me out

what if mods were displayed as cards

and you could click on them

to open their about page

[cunning silo]

?

[lavish jackal]

🥺

[lavish jackal]

like

tiny icons

[cunning silo]

huh

[lavish jackal]

yeah

and like, make them appear

[sleek granite]

or just do like wee joker

[lavish jackal]

next to the mod

[sleek granite]

full size texture just smol

[lavish jackal]

could do as well

but yeah, that'd be really cool

and good theming for balatro

I like icons

love them, even

[cunning silo]

getting there!

[lavish jackal]

lets goo

[sleek granite]

oooo if there was a Mod Config option between Mods and Smods credits there.... thatd be sick

(brain go wheeeee)

[lavish jackal]

also i think a 32x32 icon is good actually

it can be like

tag format

[sleek granite]

oh teue

i was just thinking that if it was a Full Card ppl could just pick one of their cards for it to be

[cunning silo]

i am going to murder you

[sleek granite]

plus then you can maybe have fun dragging them around

(i am a fan of being able to just fuck around with dragging cards all over the place)

(yes i mentally peaked at the age of 6 whats up)

[lavish jackal]

whyyy

[lavish jackal]

oh yeah that works

pick a card or make like

custom art if you feel like it

up to u

also dw im just throwing ideas around

i guess it is up to feder alas

[cunning silo]

i might do that

don't lose hope yet

but I wanna do the requirements first

[lavish jackal]

yeah fair!

usable UI is better than pretty UI

oh shit if it was cards you could use like

sticker textures

like have a sticker with a big red "!"

on the mods that have dependency issues

or a grayed out sticker on mods that are disabled

or you could use the debuffed effect on them

[cunning silo]

testing to see the requirements field works

[lavish jackal]

yesss

god this discord is cooking

[sleek granite]

feder is cooking, i just have a microwave

[lavish jackal]

ok i lowkey love tag icons

[sleek granite]

cringe

[lavish jackal]

will you be happy if i concept out the cards idea

[carmine mortar]

Do be cool though

[boreal ibex]

good morning chat

[carmine mortar]

Needs a stone card tag icon

[cunning silo]

Um...

[lavish jackal]

yeah?

[cunning silo]

it looks odd

[lavish jackal]

could always try to

make like

wait isnt the point for this to stick out

[gilded vortex]

I like the idea too. I think if they were implemented, there should be a default fallback option tho

[lavish jackal]

like, you dont want missing deps

[lavish jackal]

Uncommon Joker tag

[cunning silo]

makes sense

i will probably do the icon thingy

[lavish jackal]

lets go!!

[gilded vortex]

I was thinking either Jimbo or Wee since those would have the correct size

[lavish jackal]

i think they'd be too large

but then again that would solve the "looks weird" problem

because you could turn the missing dependencies text

into lke

this:

[cunning silo]

i would stick with tags

[lavish jackal]

wait so

why not make a missing deps tag

[wanton rapids]

doesn't look like a button

[cunning silo]

but i dont want to implement another tag type XD

[lavish jackal]

its not actually a tag

it just uses a tag texture

[cunning silo]

true

[wanton rapids]

should have a pressed variation

[modest vessel]

bruh why the heck is it only 1 when square joker gives 4 💀

especially as a rare

[wanton rapids]

the amount it gains scales

[modest vessel]

what duh hell

[carmine mortar]

I mean it kinda already is indented

[modest vessel]

oh what so +1 then +2...

ok nvm goated

[wanton rapids]

+1, +3, +6, +10, +15,

[modest vessel]

💀

does it cap?

[wanton rapids]

no

[modest vessel]

ok maybe a little too goated lmao

[cunning silo]

okay, made it so mods won't load if the required dependencies are not present!

[lavish jackal]

nice!

also I think sticking to like, tag visual for official icons is good

like error tag for missing deps

existing tag textures as like, default mod icons

but also, let people make their own 32x32 icons for the mods

[cunning silo]

okay i know how to do the tags

got it

[atomic skiff]

some of the unique jokers that dont have variations im making unique sprites for

[cunning silo]

This is how it looks right now, I will change it to implement the tag stuff

[sleek granite]

oh i almost forgot your project existed

[atomic skiff]

its coming along lol, got about 20 done

[sleek granite]

this might be dumb but is it possible for the missing dependencies button to be on-top of the mod button? thatway the alignment doesnt get skewed

[lavish jackal]

we're phasing it out into like

tag cons

*icons

[wanton rapids]

also make the mod button itself grey

to show it has not been loaded

[lavish jackal]

yeah probably good idea

also autumn see

tag icon

[sleek granite]

cringe

[lavish jackal]

it signifies "uh oh, the mod has some issues"

[sleek granite]

(dependency tag should be on the right)

[lavish jackal]

fair

[cunning silo]

i will probably only have 1 tag texture, which changes if the mod is not loaded correctly

[lavish jackal]

yeah that's fair

won't upset the offset

i rounded off the !

kept it an octagon cause

stop sign

[sleek granite]

eight awesome angles....

[lavish jackal]

i think this can work for like

"uh oh the mod didnt load properly" icon

[cunning silo]

@lean dune how plausable is it to have our own textures in Steamodded

[gilded vortex]

I don't know if I'd prefer a "!" or a "X"

[sleek granite]

me when i get home and forget all about everything i had planned for the day

oh yeah bugfixing gdi

[lavish jackal]

i can do a variaton

[iron onyx]

oh speaking of

[sleek granite]

Do Not Dare Tell Me Another Error In My Code

[iron onyx]

no no

can someone either find or make me a mod that has like... one or two extra ranks, maybe?

[sleek granite]

oh word i can just send you dunkrunks

[iron onyx]

just enough to where i can test custom ranks and make enhanceAPI compatible with them without uh

yes many ranks

[lavish jackal]

hows this

[iron onyx]

(i've seen the pictures, you mad jester you)

[lavish jackal]

@gilded vortex

[sleek granite]

what

[round ore]

looks like the exit button

[sleek granite]

why not YES MANY RANKS

[round ore]

I think "!" would be better

[sleek granite]

if you're testing, test it RIGHT

[lavish jackal]

i had a !

see

but victin wanted to see an X

[round ore]

yea then its better to keep it ig

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm… I see their point.

[lavish jackal]

think a tiny bit more padding?

between the icon and the mod button

[wanton rapids]

the same padding as between tags in the collection

unless that's really large

[sleek granite]

me, curious how itay is just arbitrarily drawing sprites

[wanton rapids]

love.graphics.draw

[cunning silo]

nope

[wanton rapids]

i was joking

[cunning silo]

oh XD

[gilded vortex]

They're doctoring screenshots /j

[lavish jackal]

also huge W for mod artists, now we can have

actual mod icons

and make them pretty

[sleek granite]

i do still want to add extra HUD to the game

because im Cringe and stuff

[lavish jackal]

is that wodka mutini

or magnetic wodka

whichever

[gilded vortex]

It is the W-shaped vodka bottle as a Discord emoji yes

I think it was magnetic

[lavish jackal]

yee

because it was made from a W magnet

[sleek granite]

[gilded vortex]

Because Rose used the W-shaped magnet

[lavish jackal]

autumn what will you make your mod icon?

im gonna make mine a cool perspective shot of the homestuck sburb logo

[cunning silo]

):

[lavish jackal]

blegh

lower vertical padding maybe?

[sleek granite]

[lavish jackal]

or are they fixed

technically lowering vertical padding value should fix it

[cunning silo]

i have no idea how to lower vertical padding specifically XD

[lavish jackal]

what does the ui code look like

also did you like, just copy the actual tag paddings

oh yeah you did

i think

[sleek granite]

ui code looks like HELL

[lavish jackal]

thats ui for you

:D

[sleek granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPrVpxcpObo this kind of vibe is what i bring to my programming

[cunning silo]

no i can't be bothered to try and make it work anymore

it's currently staying this way

[lavish jackal]

i guess regular padding is fine

yeah

[sleek granite]

i think it is ok if they are touching

[lavish jackal]

its good

[cunning silo]

but it looks good otherwise

so its fine

now, time to make hovering above it do somethign

[sleek granite]

honestly personally i'd make the tag be over the button for AESTHETICS

but also yeah make it work first lul

[lavish jackal]

show descriptoion...

[cunning silo]

description?

[lavish jackal]

yeah

of the mod

[cunning silo]

wdym?

[lavish jackal]

or sth

[cunning silo]

nothing changed here yet

might add the tag as an icon near the name of the mod

or like <tag> name <tag>

[lavish jackal]

this blurb

[cunning silo]

what about it?

[lavish jackal]

why not show on hover

👁️

[sleek granite]

you should make your mod description look like a pesterchum dialogue

[lavish jackal]

real

yeah fair

i do think hover should do sth tho

but what

but yeah you could like

have it so that it shows the mod desc on hover

on the icon

Then the button could become a config for the mod

[cunning silo]

i wanted to make it show the mod status

[lavish jackal]

thats also good!

[sleek granite]

why does hovering need to do something

[cunning silo]

idk it can be fun

[lavish jackal]

dopamine

[sleek granite]

sorry i feel like i just logged out of my brain

[lavish jackal]

god this is gonna be so cool

[sleek granite]

you're so cool

[lavish jackal]

😳

[round ore]

How could i make the most useful Joker in the game better?

[lavish jackal]

make nothing a consumable item using OddityAPI

[sleek granite]

balatro "i dont speak bottom" stuck gaming

[lavish jackal]

have its description be "Does nothing"

[boreal ibex]

make it do less

[lavish jackal]

no no make it do more visually

[grand geode]

what does nothing do

[lavish jackal]

but nothing mechanically

[lavish jackal]

nothing

[round ore]

nothing does nothing

[grand geode]

deleting doesn't remove the ping

lol

[round ore]

you have it in your deck and it does absolutely nothing

[lavish jackal]

what ping

[round ore]

its just there

i could change its bio to say "makes you do nothing" and then locks all your inputs and everything so you can actually just sit and do nothing

[lavish jackal]

no because then it does something

[dapper helm]

always eternal and it puts you back 2 antes every time you beat a boss blind

[lavish jackal]

no that also makes it do something

[dapper helm]

just wastes your time on nothing

[round ore]

I could do something like that and name it "Annoying Joker"

[gilded vortex]

delay(math.huge)

[lavish jackal]

but then it will take you to negative antes

[round ore]

skill issue

then dont get it

[dapper helm]

yeah its a softlock

big waste of time

[round ore]

Feeling extremely Lucky?
1 in 10 chance of giving you 100k
1 in 100 chance of adding 50 negative jokers
1 in 1000 chance to uninstall balatro and delete your steam account

lol

best joker

[ionic token]

Joker idea:

Doomsday

If played hand contains one of the following:

• a Four or Five of a Kind in 4's, 6's, 8's, 10's, or Queens or,
• a Two Pair or Full House consisting of 9's and 5's, or 7's and Jacks,
  then [insert effect here].

[sleek granite]

holy shit

yall i cooked

[cunning silo]

what did you do?

[rare shell]

• Riff-raff is now incredible
• Baseball Card is now awesome
• Booster packs aren't so shit anymore

[sleek granite]

SHOP HAS A FREE UNCOMMON JOKER LETS GOOO

[cunning silo]

Nice!

[strange pendant]

Logically shouldn't that just make riff raff do nothing

[sleek granite]

bro wtf my computer is being so dumb

i cooked too hard

[rare shell]

I mean what would be the point if common jokers were turned into nothing at all

[sleek granite]

im gonna try rebooting then i'll record this

[strange pendant]

If it turns commons into other rarities then I'd reword that

[grand geode]

yeah based on that wording, riff-raff just makes nothing

"All future Common Jokers are rerolled" or sth idk

[rare shell]

it's like NO! trinket in isaac, in description mod it also says that it disables active items from appearing, doesn't mean that it leaves the rooms empty

[sleek granite]

if everything needs to say exactly what it does then like 50 vanilla jokers are illegal

[strange pendant]

Yes and that wording is unclear with any item that specifically spawns active items