⚙・modding-general

[sleek granite]

balatrostuck is an undead shitpost

[fickle elbow]

@rare shell i think this atlas has a bug can you fix it

[grand geode]

you look like a 0px atlas

[rare shell]

have you tried using the proper offsets

[grand geode]

actually hm. what if it's not a competition but rather "make as many jokers that follow the objectives"

[rare shell]

fucking idiot cant figure out anything

[eternal turtle]

Apparently Greener pastures giving piggy bank can put you into a Student loans% run, So that was fun

[sleek granite]

joker bingo

[rare shell]

:vagabond:

[jovial notch]

studentloans% - win with over $-1500

[grand geode]

i guess lol

i'll see what works

[jovial notch]

or the any% version where you just have to hit $-1500 as fast as possible

[cursive compass]

the only problem is that the description only refreshes when you play a hand

[polar pecan]

Ooh that’s a cool joker

[cursive compass]

maybe i could just have it update on hover as well?

[sleek granite]

you can hook Card:update to check it every frame or hook Card:generate_UIBox_ability_table (someone double check this) to calc it when you go to make the uibox

[cursive compass]

every frame i feel like would be bad

unless my code is just unoptimized as hell

[sleek granite]

holy shit

im almost positive theres already code to do that

[cursive compass]

that's news to me lmao

[sleek granite]

the deck overview makes a display for suit count

[cursive compass]

i looked at it but it seemed kinda.... hard to deal with

[sleek granite]

im not sure if its stapled to the deck overview ui code or separated out

but the way you're doing it wont support modded suits

[cursive compass]

maybe i could look at the idol

ok idol is unhelpful it just picks a random card

hmm

castle just picks a random card and uses its suit

[rare shell]

modded suits are CRINGE anyway

except garfield suit

[jovial notch]

what abt the one mod that makes 4 suits

[dapper helm]

true!

[jovial notch]

i mean 6 or less makes sense kinda

but why would you need 8+ ;-;

[sleek granite]

and balatrostruck

[rare shell]

balatrostruckbyabus

[sleek granite]

please?

[cunning silo]

Balatro code

[sleek granite]

thats misprint right

[cunning silo]

yup

[sleek granite]

the fact i fuckin know that

[dapper helm]

why is it like that

[cunning silo]

no idea

[rare shell]

mult is probably being randomized every frame

[sleek granite]

its the loc vars

[rare shell]

loc_mult is probs being randomized every frame

[sleek granite]

im pretty sure each of those is just the word "Mult"

[rare shell]

my despair is being randomized every frame

[dapper helm]

wtf thunk

[sleek granite]

lyman is being randomized every frame

[dapper helm]

true!

[rare shell]

certified moment.node[1]

[umbral pilot]

[rare shell]

[dapper helm]

self portrait is being randomized every frame

[sleek granite]

every copy of misprint is personalized

lmao

[rare shell]

no wait

please i need to know

[dapper helm]

lmao

[sleek granite]

yall ever fold a misprint?

[jovial notch]

My bad lolll

[rare shell]

forbidden crunchwrap lore

[sleek granite]

modding community lore

[jovial notch]

pause

[sleek granite]

lyman we need a folded crunchwrap joker and/or oddity

[rare shell]

me when i put a baseball card on my grilled cheese

[cunning silo]

wait what lore do we have:
Myst X Jimbo
Folding Misprint

[rare shell]

im still mad abt that

[grand geode]

No

No

No

[jovial notch]

wait wtf is Myst x Jimbo?

[rare shell]

jimbo yuri

[dapper helm]

thorn

[cunning silo]

yeah thorn

[jovial notch]

would the entirety of balatrostuck count as lore

[rare shell]

balatro story mode

[jovial notch]

its here like 90% of the time

[grand geode]

(i'm actually pretty uncomfortable with that now so please don't bring it up again 🙏)

[cunning silo]

oh ok sorry

[rare shell]

bobm

[jovial notch]

sorry (i still have no idea what it is lol)

[sleek granite]

cheese baseball cards
folded crunchwrap
joker yaoi
þorn
balatro story mode
balatrobound
bobm

[grand geode]

bobm

[jovial notch]

anyways

[grand geode]

oh my god the thorn

[cunning silo]

thorn was amazing

[dapper helm]

the mojimoon incident

[jovial notch]

whats thorm???

ive missed a lot huh

[sleek granite]

if the debug console ever stops being cringe....

[rare shell]

[sleek granite]

which like

[cunning silo]

the what incident?

[lavish jackal]

balatrostuck is beyond lore

[rare shell]

the meth alchemical card

[sleek granite]

debug console breaking on unicode should be fixed anyway??

[dapper helm]

smh smh

[rare shell]

wait thats not released yet

[sleek granite]

for uh

language support

[grand geode]

this person called mojimoon stole a bunch of jokers from a few mods

notably mika's

[dapper helm]

^

[rare shell]

🫡

first time in my life my art got stolen

[sleek granite]

quick someone steal thorton

þorton

[dapper helm]

thorton?

[sleek granite]

me when the lore becomes too esoteric

[jovial notch]

imagine stealing art >:(

[rare shell]

thorton is already in balatro

[lavish jackal]

this sounds like such aßhole behavior

[rare shell]

who do you think put the sticker on the oddity pack?

[cursive compass]

i love adding something and getting a crash that doesnt even visually appear to be related to it

[grand geode]

guys check out the new joker i just made

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/165949638770163713/e39f2565d3a71cca1af6ecec331ad148.webp?size=256

[sleek granite]

as seen by jimbo

[grand geode]

pretty cool right

[cursive compass]

like what the hell is t

[rare shell]

real

[lavish jackal]

you can bypass the filter by saying aß i discovere

[rare shell]

having a mustache this curly is a curse

cant eat pizza

[round oar]

a nil value probably traveled through like 17 function calls before being referenced

[rare shell]

[dapper helm]

my god i searched it and it was the thorton i was thinking of

good job lyman

[round oar]

guys when are we adding the watcher to balatro

[rare shell]

vex was a real one for making thorton start with normality in deck

[grand geode]

thorton deez

[sleek granite]

you mean Default Settings

[dapper helm]

i wonder how many mods i've played lyman was part of

[rare shell]

i made minecraft

[grand geode]

no way

mr lyman minecraft

[dapper helm]

never played it 😔

[rare shell]

i also made a hit roblox place in 2009

it got 30 visitors

[lavish jackal]

thats so cooll..

[rare shell]

triple hat glitch!!

[dapper helm]

i love hats

[rare shell]

mod that adds collectible hats to the talking jimbo sprite

[cursive compass]

whyy do you crash

[round oar]

pass in context?

[grand geode]

mod that adds gacha mechanic for this

[dapper helm]

this is too good of an idea to be a joke

[rare shell]

mom please i need 5 jollar for silly billy gacha

please mom just 1 more pull

[cursive compass]

wdym

[round oar]

calculate joker takes in two parameters: self and context

[grand geode]

pay $20 for a 0.01% chance to get the exclusive odd todd x even steven hat for jimbo

[cursive compass]

oh

[polar pecan]

Ngl that sounds fire

[cursive compass]

it just crashes without calculate wtf

[dapper helm]

worth it, i've never failed a 0.01% ever

[cursive compass]

ok if i get rid of the whole hook then the crash shops

[grand geode]

how many cavendishes have you popped

[cursive compass]

but the hook just existing crashes whenever i hover over any joker

[round oar]

so it looks like you’re trying to trigger your joker when you hover over it, right?

[dapper helm]

at least 5

[cursive compass]

i'm just trying to update its description

[round oar]

the calculate joker method is what triggers the joker, like makes jimbo give four mult

[cursive compass]

so should i make a different function for calculating its stats

[round oar]

yeah

[dapper helm]

i did have 1 cavendish pop on a modded run but i also had 5 of them. can't even get gros michel to die nowadays, i keep it for like 5 antes and i go extinct before it does

[rare shell]

damocles deck that does nothing but has a 1 in 10000 chance to gameover you each frame

[cursive compass]

would that just be

function name()
  do_stuff
end

or does it have a specific format in this file

[dapper helm]

starts with offering and ceremonial dagger?

[round oar]

yeah why not

[cursive compass]

that works but it still doesnt solve the problem of the description not updating until it's calculated

sometimes it does update when it's not actually being triggered but not always

let me try and put a card eval status text so i can see when exactly

ok what

all of a sudden its updating in situations it didnt before

it's also kinda. doing a bunch of unnecessary updates

i just played a hand and it literally updated like 12 times

[round oar]

ok let me explain

[lean dune]

well that's because you're not checking context

[cursive compass]

yeah i guess that makes sense

[lean dune]

(also do I see code that doesn't support added suits?)

[cursive compass]

yeah you do

:)

[round oar]

calculate is called whenever anything happens that might trigger any joker

[cursive compass]

i don't have the energy or knowledge to procedurally generate this card's effect for modded suits

[round oar]

just manually add every modded suit that will ever be made

[cursive compass]

should i be checking for context.joker_main and context.cardarea == G.jokers

[fickle elbow]

i feel my insides dying

[lean dune]

I'll come up with some for stars and moons if you give me some context on the joker itself

[round oar]

depends when you want it to trigger

[lavish jackal]

level display! woooo

[cursive compass]

it takes the ratio of your most common suit to the full size of your deck and multiplies it by 4 for its xmult

so a default deck with 13 of each suit will not do anything

[cursive compass]

i just want it to give xmult to hands but i would like the description to update at least whenever the card is hovered over

ideally it'd be able to update whenever you add/lose a playing card or a card changes suit (i.e. sigil or tarots) but i'm not sure if that's possible

[lean dune]

uh then there's nothing unique about any individual added suit and you should just do with looping over SMODS.Card.SUITS

[cursive compass]

i didn't know about that variable

holy no documentation

would you mind explaining how that variable works?

is it like a table that contains every suit?

[lean dune]

uh yeah I haven't had the time to doc that

it's a table that contains data for each suit that currently exists

[lavish jackal]

good to know that actually

mod compat..

[round oar]

you need to use loc_def instead of calculate

[cursive compass]

oh so i just put the calc function in loc_def?

[lean dune]

if you look at the steamodded files, it's declared at the top of suit.lua with the default suits iirc

[round oar]

it’s hard to explain

ok so what’s your card description

[cursive compass]

do modded suits typically use suit_list or only suits

[lean dune]

they get registered to both

[cursive compass]

ok good i'll just use suit list then

[lean dune]

SUITS has the complete data with sprite positions and whatnot, while SUIT_LIST only has the names

[cursive compass]

i guess i increase the multiplier by the amount of suits too...?

but that could make the card too good if a modded suit is only available in a specific deck

[round oar]

so if your loc_def function is simply ‘return {10}’ then it will replace #1# with 10 in the description

[lean dune]

the suit doesn't have to exist otherwise

[cursive compass]

yeah it has a loc_def already for setting up the description

[lean dune]

you could also divide by the number of suits present in the deck currently, but on the other hand that makes checkered deck suck

[lavish jackal]

certified blood moment

[sleek granite]

bloooood

[fickle elbow]

ok i swear this is the last mod i'll be working on while working on other mods https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232205257384132689

[cursive compass]

yeah it'd also require you to have at least 1 card of every suit to get the card's full effect which is kinda dumb

[fickle elbow]

i'll just be hopping between the three

[round oar]

ok im not completely clear what you’re trying to do, sorry

[lean dune]

I mean it's a scaling factor anyways, it's fine to have that be constant

[cursive compass]

i'm trying to get the description to update whenever your deck changes rather than whenever the joker is triggered

deck change or hover whatever's more practical ig

[lavish jackal]

now we're cooking with gas

[lean dune]

at least #1220084296346501201 registers suits only when they get to exist, which does mean it would change mid-run

[round oar]

like more broadly, what does your joker do?

[lean dune]

Max of 4 means it doesn't work if you already have 4 or more negative consumables?

[cursive compass]

this

[round oar]

oh

[sleek granite]

i should do this on universe

[round oar]

well then just calculate and return it in loc_def yeah

[lean dune]

yeah you'll have to update on hover to always display correctly, and on calculate to always work correctly

[lavish jackal]

it levels up

this is level 4 blood

[lean dune]

oh right

[round oar]

just make sure to avoid side effects within it

[dapper helm]

perkeo if it was balanced

[cursive compass]

that works pretty well i guess now i just need to set the right context

[round oar]

negative consumables have their own separate tooltip

[lavish jackal]

do they?

whats the tooltip

[dapper helm]

yup

[sleek granite]

chat i am bewildering and strange

[round oar]

the one perkeo uses

[dapper helm]

+1 consumable slot, no?

[round oar]

mhm

[cursive compass]

just making sure is context.joker_main and context.cardarea == G.jokers when xmult should trigger

[round oar]

yeah perfect

[dapper helm]

i like that this is a statement and not a question

[sleek granite]

you get it

[dapper helm]

chat i am irresponsible and sleepy

[lean dune]

your nickname however isn't

[round oar]

i like that this is also a statement and not a question

[sleek granite]

ok

[dapper helm]

i have an appointment in like 9 hours which wouldn't be too bad if i didn't usually sleep like 10 hours

[round oar]

just wake up after your appointment is finished

[dapper helm]

that would cause many problems

[round oar]

being sleep deprived is not one of them

[dapper helm]

gn chat

[cursive compass]

what should i do to keep the calc function from running when you're not in a game

[round oar]

it doesn’t?

[cursive compass]

it crashes because it checks the deck which is nil before a game is started

maybe just

if G.playing_cards?

[dapper helm]

does it do that for the collection or something?

[cursive compass]

yeah

[round oar]

please, please don’t call the calc function yourself

unless you know what you’re doing

[cursive compass]

no i mean

[lean dune]

they have their separate function for the updating^^

[cursive compass]

not the calculate function

yeh

i should probably name it differently

[round oar]

the loc_def function?

[cursive compass]

i'll just call it integrity_update

it's the one that's used in calculate and loc_def to check the deck and update the card

[round oar]

there’s usually a vanilla joker that has the answer you want

in this case it’s cloud 9

[lean dune]

or erosion

[round oar]

it’s description is based on the current deck

[round oar]

true

[sleek granite]

i should make a calculate joker hook for usable jokers.....

[lean dune]

context.use

aaaaaa

[round oar]

it makes more sense to call use_consumeable rather than calculate_jojer

[lean dune]

I mean consumables can trigger calculate_joker, so why not the other way around as well

[cursive compass]

ok i'm gonna try and get the modded suit compat working

[sleek granite]

the problen is

usable jokers dont have self.ability.consumeable

[round oar]

well then they should

[lean dune]

clearly they should

[sleek granite]

basegame code will annihilate them on use then

[round oar]

since they are consumeable

[lean dune]

I assume that breaks things, but they are consumable after all

[sleek granite]

they arent supposed to be consumeable

think isaac active items

[lean dune]

maybe make your own property then

[sleek granite]

what do you think ive already done ^^"

[round oar]

oh wait, do you mean they don’t disappear on use?

then yeah def use calculate_joker

[sleek granite]

i assume adding a new context is relatively simple, just make sure theres no overlap with existing ones and hook to SMODS.end_calculate_context to detect it?

[round oar]

yeah, knowing lua there shouldn’t be any issues

btw what is end_calculate_context for anyways?

[lean dune]

for whatever is in the giant else block at the bottom of calculate_joker

[sleek granite]

oh fuck basegame shit

[fickle elbow]

thoughts? (the hook + the wheel)

[round oar]

i just use context.individual and context.cardarea == g.jokers

[sleek granite]

unless that's patched to use SMODS.end_calculate_context?

(i hate being afk for 10 hours a day)

[round oar]

add ‘and not context.repetition’

[sleek granite]

high card pivot....

[lean dune]

hmm context api?

[sleek granite]

context api lets gooooo

[lean dune]

should be alright to resolve with lovely

[sleek granite]

i mean i can just omit the calculate_joker call for the time being

actually i wonder if nonconsumable oddites cause similar issues

hm....

[lean dune]

ities

[sleek granite]

should test jimbobread man (full) more....

[lean dune]

toddities

[sleek granite]

he is technically a nonconsumable oddity

[round oar]

damn I was gonna say that

[round oar]

wait then what did i consume yesterday????

[lean dune]

oddity toddity your mod is now my property

[sleek granite]

if full jimbobread man doesnt break on-use-consumable jokers then i can probably just call it with that context

[wanton rapids]

bit late but like, just one joker?

perchance

[sleek granite]

technically jimbobread man (full) isnt consumable, his effect just transforms him into the (true consumablek) jimbobread man (half)

[round oar]

i thought that message was referring to odd todd 💀

[sleek granite]

also Aure what would you think about folding in the subtitle code from Thac

[cunning silo]

how did you do the subtitles?

[sleek granite]

it technically could just be dropped in since i already have it formatted as an API hook

[sleek granite]

surgery

[sleek granite]

https://github.com/AutumnMood924/TheAutumnCircus/blob/2954bd1141527f202292bdd7e20b601d59670df2/overrides.lua#L42

oh fuck i left in a billion print calls, cringe

[cunning silo]

niiice

[sleek granite]

basically i take the text node thats already there and put it into a new pair of nodes with another one below it

[cunning silo]

oh that's pretty neat

[sleek granite]

and i shift the original text and subtitle appropriately with text offsets

[lean dune]

uh i fold

that's clever

[sleek granite]

im probably gonna split off a "coremod" from Thac at some point with this kinda stuff tho, so it doesnt really Need to be in SMODS directly

tho idk how willing ppl would be to dev with someone else's coremod

[lean dune]

i mean i don't really want coremods

[cursive compass]

i really hope this works

[sleek granite]

thats fair

[cursive compass]

i'm gonna make sure it's not broken in vanilla and then grab sixsuits

[lean dune]

for ... in #X does not work

that's just not valid lua

[cursive compass]

i'm a lua noob mb

[round oar]

that looks jank

[sleek granite]

for i=1, #X do
  local v = X[i]
end```

[cursive compass]

what about for i = 1, #SMODS.Card.SUIT_LIST do

yea

[lean dune]

yeah

[round oar]

don’t add side effects to loc_def

[lean dune]

or for k,v in ipairs(SMODS.Card.SUIT_LIST) do

[cursive compass]

the update text is just there for testing

[lean dune]

then you can just index by v

[sleek granite]

this is more useful if you're iterating in a weird way, like for i=#X, 1, -1 (someone verify that i did that right i dont do such very much)

[cursive compass]

yeah ipairs is better

since i need the value cause its an array

[round oar]

no not that, modifying properties of self.ability

[sleek granite]

im not sure theres a good way to do this without hooking Card:update but maybe im just forgor something

[round oar]

just check cloud 9

[lean dune]

eh, you don't need self.ability modified until calculate is called

[sleek granite]

oh, the subtitle on the badge for dysnomia isnt separated out

just the name one, mb if anyone thought that code would do both

[cursive compass]

but then... the description will be inaccurate...

[round oar]

^^

[lean dune]

i mean you could just return the values without saving them

[cursive compass]

cloud 9 updates on G.STAGE == G.STAGES.RUN

[sleek granite]

(this is done in its set_badges function and can probably be improved tbh, if anyone is curious where that code is)

[cursive compass]

oh yeah i guess that's true

[haughty hinge]

im just thankful they don't fully counter builds like in beta

[sleek granite]

me when i make a blind that makes every hand with a face card in it not score

[round oar]

blind: if you have more than four kings in hand, die irl

[lean dune]

final boss blind: score at least 69X base, become blind irl if you lose

[haughty hinge]

"old boss blinds were so fun"

[sleek granite]

there should be a blind that makes it so you can't use consumables against it.... counters Codex and Oddities (potentially, its a design space im exploring for it)

[round oar]

blind: flips and shuffles your internal organs

[sleek granite]

isnt that just this channel (/j)

[lean dune]

lmao

[cursive compass]

this is getting stuck on hearts for some reason

[haughty hinge]

i might just use that screenshot whenever now

[cursive compass]

i have 17 clubs so shouldn't it see that 17 is larger and set key,max to "Clubs", 17?

[lean dune]

the last for loop needs to use pairs instead of ipairs

[cursive compass]

ah alright

[lean dune]

ipairs only checks contiguous numbered indices starting from 1

[sleek granite]

no you need to be consistent here i think

[lean dune]

i forgot lua is curse 💀

[wanton rapids]

this came to me in a dream

[sleek granite]

do ipairs on SMODS.Card.SUIT_LIST and then get the matching suits[v]

[round oar]

ndexing errorsi

[cursive compass]

ok that fixed it

[lean dune]

nah you're looping a different structure

you can loop suitlist again, but order is irrelevant here

[round oar]

this needs to be an emote immediately

[sleek granite]

if its not consistently looping suits then it'll return different values if two or more are tied?

[cursive compass]

if two or more are tied does it really matter

[sleek granite]

which since this is for UI code... will look like fuckin garbage?

[wanton rapids]

ok do whatever you want with it

[cursive compass]

let me check and see what happens with just a starting deck

[round oar]

i think we only care about the number of suit, not the suit itself

[cursive compass]

actually i'll cryptid to get 2 suits to 15

[sleek granite]

for calculation yeah, but the description was showing the suit name iirc

[round oar]

oh ok, then yeah you’re correct

[cursive compass]

ok no i have 13 hearts 13 diamonds 15 clubs 15 spades and its just saying clubs every time

[sleek granite]

i have dementia

(lie)

[cursive compass]

i mean i wouldn't have been surprised if that was an issue

but i'm glad it's not

because i'm getting tired of working on this card

[sleek granite]

welcome to

[cursive compass]

question about return

[sleek granite]

it improves in power based on your pokemon's friendship

[cursive compass]

if i return 4 values with integrity_update can i use them with #1# and so on in functions other than loc_def

actually i might as well just see for myself

[grand geode]

The Monster:

[wanton rapids]

also counters colours

[gilded vortex]

Can Consumeables be debuffed?

[cursive compass]

oh ok you cant its just invalid lua

[sleek granite]

idk lol

[wanton rapids]

you'd have to use whatever you've defined it to be in loc_def

[cursive compass]

how do i call that then

[wanton rapids]

just

use the same value

[gilded vortex]

The game already counts the number of suits when showing you the deck summary. Maybe use that as reference?

[cursive compass]

its a return from a custom function

[wanton rapids]

hm

[gilded vortex]

Call the function?

Or save the result in the extra dictionary

[cursive compass]

ok wait i can do

local x,y,z = integrity_update(self)
self.ability.xmult = z

i THINK

[gilded vortex]

Well, it’s debuffed, but can it be used? #1226433760426201179 message

[lavish jackal]

I feel like the whole point of Balatro's game design is like, specifically that you're not fully in control of the game, that you have to adapt to changing situations and can quickly go from being on top of the world to losing the entire game

[grand geode]

"Your most played hand is debuffed"

go ahead

pivot

[lavish jackal]

That's not an effect though

[gilded vortex]

Ride the Bus scalers:

[lavish jackal]

There is one that sets money to 0 for most played hand

[cursive compass]

oh wait it's the first return i need lol so i don't even need to make multiple variables

[lavish jackal]

That can still be devastating though

My favorite (behated) Boss Blind is The Arm

I've lost so many runs because of The Arm

not because I didn't clear the Arm - I easily did

[gilded vortex]

I want to add more bosses/effects that make the rest of your run worse

[lavish jackal]

Because it dealt a massive blow to my winning hand that I wasn't able to recover from quickly

[round oar]

best practice is to calculate it again

[gilded vortex]

During the December demo I thought about The Rock

[grand geode]

not with that attitude

[gilded vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1170343625226461264

[lavish jackal]

The Needle is also a great Boss Blind I think - it creates a sense of dread when your current combo doesn't clear the small blind

[cursive compass]

i was wondering why it wasn't working and then i realized i set xmult instead of x_mult

[lavish jackal]

It immediately sends a signal to your brain to say "hey you better find something good in the next two shops or you're fucked"

I think my least favorite boss blind is The Wall

Larger chips requirement is kind of.. eh?

My second favorite boss blind is The Pillar

Pillar is fun because it's the one time where skipping is a viable strategy if you already know you can score more than enough for small and big blinds

[sleek granite]

what lol

[wary moth]

how easy is it to make a custom blind?

[cursive compass]

man what

[lavish jackal]

Not that hard actually

[sleek granite]

how did i miss that earlier

thx victin

[wary moth]

cool

[gilded vortex]

Debuffed Jimbobread man

[cursive compass]

it's printing correctly so the issue is in the return i think?

[gilded vortex]

No problem :)

[wild thunder]

I believe you should look in card.lua

[sleek granite]

is verdant leef supposed to debuff consumables?

idk i dont usually hold onto em

[lavish jackal]

are you doing anything in calculate_joker

[gilded vortex]

The issue is probably the max comparison

[wary moth]

if i cant get tres to work properly within the next few minutes then ill try making custom blinds instead

[lavish jackal]

because if so

i believe its probably because

it debuffs card areas

[cursive compass]

i just said it's printing correctly

[cunning silo]

doing some tests with some stuff

[sleek granite]

no i just

[cursive compass]

maybe i should be using max instead of suits[key]

[sleek granite]

is that supposed to happen

or is it a bug

[sleek granite]

i genuinely dont know

[lavish jackal]

whats this

[cunning silo]

me testing random stuff

AKA how to work with card areas

[lavish jackal]

ohh didnt even notice actually

youre adding a new card area

[sleek granite]

sick

[lavish jackal]

thats sick!

btw hm

feder

[wanton rapids]

oh wait what?

[lavish jackal]

how would one make like

a display like the one for hand levels

[gilded vortex]

But what’s the type of max?

[cursive compass]

i think i see what's happening

i need to call integrityx[1]

[sleek granite]

feder will you make cardarea api

[gilded vortex]

You know, I was just thinking “what if I added Jokers that weren’t Jokers”

[wary moth]

are there any mods with custom blinds i could look at? the wiki doesnt have any documentation for blind api rn

[cunning silo]

oh?

[lavish jackal]

yeah

[cursive compass]

because integrityx is a table that holds all the return values

[lavish jackal]

basically addng a tab to run info

[sleek granite]

i also would like to know how to add more HUD

[lavish jackal]

and adding all aspect levels

[cunning silo]

loc_vars = {
            G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level,localize(_c.config.hand_type, 'poker_hands'), G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].l_mult, G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].l_chips,
            colours = {(G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level==1 and G.C.UI.TEXT_DARK or G.C.HAND_LEVELS[math.min(7, G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level)])}
        }
        localize{type = 'descriptions', key = _c.key, set = _c.set, nodes = desc_nodes, vars = loc_vars}

[gilded vortex]

Where would you add this though?

[lavish jackal]

no no

thats in

[cunning silo]

loc vars

[lavish jackal]

the actual planet descs

i mean a ui element

like this

[cunning silo]

ohhhhhhhhhh

ooh this will be fun to research

[gilded vortex]

That’s what I was referring too as well

[cunning silo]

i see

i will check that out

[wary moth]

found one

[cunning silo]

found the source

[gilded vortex]

I mean, I think being able to add to the play UI is also interesting, instead of needing to add to a menu

[lavish jackal]

that was fast

i imagine its like

going down the node tree

[wanton rapids]

effect!

[cunning silo]

i know code research and stuff

[lavish jackal]

much like what you'd do for

the actual like

consumables

[cunning silo]

like, i studied it for my job

[cursive compass]

ok i fixed integrity

[cunning silo]

oh XD

[sleek granite]

run info api...

[cunning silo]

this is so stupid wtf

[lavish jackal]

whats going on

[cunning silo]

like bro

[grand geode]

the mystblinds in question:

[sleek granite]

lmao

[cunning silo]

this is the func you need BTW: create_UIBox_current_hand_row

[lavish jackal]

i bet that current_hand_row is a shorthand

[cunning silo]

im checking it out rn

[lavish jackal]

for a general row function

[cunning silo]

yup found it

it's basically just a UI producing func

[sleek granite]

i feel like theres a smods hook here

[cunning silo]

{n=G.UIT.C, config={align = "cm", padding = 0.01, r = 0.1, colour = G.C.HAND_LEVELS[math.min(7, G.GAME.hands[handname].level)], minw = 1.5, outline = 0.8, outline_colour = G.C.WHITE}, nodes={
          {n=G.UIT.T, config={text = localize('k_level_prefix')..G.GAME.hands[handname].level, scale = 0.5, colour = G.C.UI.TEXT_DARK}}
        }}

[cunning silo]

nope

apperantly there isnt

[sleek granite]

wowie

[lavish jackal]

oh neat, G.UIT again

[sleek granite]

how does sixsuits do it

[cunning silo]

good question XD

ill research it

[lavish jackal]

i'm currently looking at that excerpt

so i can design my own UI element

[cunning silo]

also...

[lavish jackal]

for Aspects

[cunning silo]

ooh nice

perhaps I might also use it for the secret project

[lavish jackal]

lemme just like

roughly block it out on figma

1 sec

[cunning silo]

figma?

[cursive compass]

happy now

[cunning silo]

They hook into it

so, who is adding a "Ore of a Kind" hand?

[sleek granite]

ore cards....

[cunning silo]

it's just 5 stone cards

actually i might do it as a joke

should I make that?

[sleek granite]

the planet card is planet minecraft

[cunning silo]

YESSSSSSSS

[wanton rapids]

ok that's good

[cunning silo]

imma do it right now

[wanton rapids]

ore of a kind should be 4 stones, mine of a kind is five

[cunning silo]

yeah we should really do a joker jam

[wanton rapids]

how often? what should the themes be?

[cunning silo]

probably like once or twice a month

and just a random theme we choose randomly

[wanton rapids]

or we could do the lyman prompt thing

seven or so words, each person picks two

[sleek granite]

first theme is stone cards

[cursive compass]

i just realized i never pointed out how cool negative control looks

[cunning silo]

i like when mod jams have a unified theme

[wanton rapids]

true

[lavish jackal]

gonna do roughly sth like this

[lavish jackal]

its a ui design tool

online

[cunning silo]

ooh what's this program?

[lavish jackal]

figma

[cunning silo]

XD

[lavish jackal]

its online

[cunning silo]

can you send a link?

[lavish jackal]

yeah

[cunning silo]

that's interesting

[lavish jackal]

https://www.figma.com

[sleek granite]

we need an ore dictionary....

[cunning silo]

?

[lavish jackal]

made this mockup for my shooter game thingy in figma lol

[sleek granite]

[lavish jackal]

but thats neither here nor there

[grand geode]

figma balls

[lavish jackal]

die

[grand geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1226033049955860561.webp?size=48

[sleek granite]

had an idea for a miner joker

[wanton rapids]

counter point

[sleek granite]

who would destroy played stone cards and have a chance of genning ore oddities

[lavish jackal]

thats cool

do that

[sleek granite]

but then i thought

[grand geode]

the pebbler joker in question

[sleek granite]

what if it also makes ore alchemical

(as applicable for whatever alchs make sense)

[lavish jackal]

btw feder look at this

the dice

[grand geode]

stones generate soaps

[lavish jackal]

so cool

[grand geode]

obv

[gilded vortex]

Interesting

[wary moth]

ok i cant figure out how to remove a random redeemed voucher hmm

[lavish jackal]

you dont use that btw

you make your own func

based on that func

that func shows hands in run info

dont mess with that

[gilded vortex]

Nice

[grand geode]

put all used_voucher in a pseudo choice or sth iirc

[lavish jackal]

i think we should avoid a Minecraft Better than Wolves situation and

not override base game behavior

at all costs

[grand geode]

that's what I've been doing

[sleek granite]

better than perishable

[wanton rapids]

there was one time i considered overriding base game behaviour

lemme see if i can find it

[grand geode]

i had to override shit for the first iteration of MystBlinds

[gilded vortex]

Beautiful

[wanton rapids]

ok this

[foggy crag]

е

[wary moth]

how do i do that?

[cursive compass]

overriding base game behavior is literally my favorite thing ever it's my biggest hobby

[grand geode]

where rush e download

[lavish jackal]

QoL mods? totally fine
Mods that drastically alter gameplay by taking ownership of jokers and rewriting their insides? extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[grand geode]

can't help, on phone

[gilded vortex]

Hmmm, but I still need to hook another function to make it show up in the proper place

[lavish jackal]

i wanna play big modpacks

[wary moth]

im not really that familiar with how the randomness of this game works other than that its deterministic and requires some function

[cursive compass]

no modpack for you it's my way or the highway

[wanton rapids]

hm

[lavish jackal]

well yeah, the function is just a shorthand for generating a formulaic UI element

[wanton rapids]

might do the Forms now

[cursive compass]

jokes aside i couldn't even overwrite anything solely because i haven't been told how to LMAO

[gilded vortex]

I think if the purpose of the mod is to do the latter then it’s fine

[lavish jackal]

yeah just dont do both

[sleek granite]

this is why i just make no jokers

[lavish jackal]

dont add new content and override old content

if you do that i will eat you

[gilded vortex]

Although I want to extend cards to be able to gain permanent Mult like they can with permanent Chips

[grand geode]

oddities jokers when

[lavish jackal]

make 2 mod parts, one that adds new stuff

one that overrides old stuff

if you do it any other way I'm allowed to bash you with hammers

[gilded vortex]

I’m poisonous AND venomous

[wanton rapids]

demon form: x1 mult, +x1 mult per hand played this round
wraith form: +2 hands per round, -1 hand size after hand played
echo form: retrigger the first card played 4 times
deva form: +2 hand size, +2 more after hand played

[cursive compass]

one thing i just remembered i wanted to do is add a custom sound for when perseverance cuts your mult but i'm not sure how difficult it'd be

[gilded vortex]

I also wanted to add custom sounds

I know the game stores them in .ogg format

[foggy crag]

my nuts

got em

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if it needs to be registered like with Jokers and Sprites

[lavish jackal]

thats not even a gotem you're just being stupid

[cursive compass]

i'd probably have to hook into the function that applies mult modifiers because that already has its own sound

[foggy crag]

[cunning silo]

graphic design is my passion

[lavish jackal]

holy shit.. minecraft

[cunning silo]

for Ore of a Kind

[lavish jackal]

what is this for

[gilded vortex]

I don’t know if that hook would work because I think it would play that other sound regardless

[lavish jackal]

Ore of a Kind?

[cunning silo]

4 stone cards

[gilded vortex]

But maybe if there are multiple returns

[lavish jackal]

lmao

why would you play 4 stone cards

[cursive compass]

oh yeah that's also fair

[cunning silo]

cause ore of a kind

[lavish jackal]

also whats 5 stone cards

[grand geode]

the pebbler joker in question

[gilded vortex]

Hatsune Miku

[cunning silo]

hoow should i call this planetBTW?

[lavish jackal]

is 5 stone cards like

Flush Ore

[carmine mortar]

Quarry

[gilded vortex]

Flatland?

[cunning silo]

i wanna call this Planet^3

[lavish jackal]

whatever the name of the realm in Minecraft Story Mode was

[carmine mortar]

Planet^3

[lavish jackal]

Overworld

[gilded vortex]

What if Planet^2 and Planet^3?

[cunning silo]

Overworld is good

[gilded vortex]

So it’s squared for 4, and cubed for 5?

[foggy crag]

sounds like a 4th dimension

[cunning silo]

i might change it to 5 stone cards instead of 4

[cursive compass]

actually wait

[cursive compass]

is it key='a_xmult' that plays the sound

[gilded vortex]

Idk I had thought that was the color of the square

[cursive compass]

let me just see if it applies the mod if i comment out the message

[cunning silo]

do we have a card with v?

[lavish jackal]

Venus

[gilded vortex]

vJimbo

[cunning silo]

right

[sleek granite]

planet minecraft...

[lavish jackal]

if i receive 20 death threats after releasing Balatrostuck I am making Balatrocraft Story Mode (Minecraft Story Mode Balatro mod)

[sleek granite]

we need an oddityjam

[vestal crag]

hah, difficult to access.

[gilded vortex]

Homestuck fans/haters don’t do that challenge:

[cursive compass]

ok it still plays the sound and the text thing shows up it's just blank

[vestal crag]

I'll kill you if you release balatrocraft story mode. (look, I just want a minecraft balatro mod)

[gilded vortex]

I imagine the color is different too

[lavish jackal]

btw I'd remove the lines in the middle

[wary moth]

update: i am continuing to debug tres

[lavish jackal]

just use different base colors

to signify shading

the extra outline makes it read like a rubiks cube

[gilded vortex]

Balatro does tend to stick to a limited palette

[lavish jackal]

balatro can go jimbo itself

[sleek granite]

what if the 5oak stone planet is the Nether and the 6oak stone planet is the End

[lavish jackal]

use as many colors as you want!!!

nobody will care!!

if it looks good its good!!

the game uses gradients!! thats the furthest you can go from a set palette

[sleek granite]

@cunning silo am i cooking

[lavish jackal]

i think youre cooking

idea

skyblock island

for 3oak

[cunning silo]

I already made it 5oak

also yeah

[lavish jackal]

skyblock island for 4oak

the chest

the single tree

[sleek granite]

5oak netherrack cards

[gilded vortex]

That’s why I said “tend to”

[gilded vortex]

I like it. I still think 4OAK should be Flatland

[cunning silo]

I mean, this entire thing was just an art test

[sleek granite]

the farlands for stone house

[cunning silo]

but I am turning it into a mod cause its funny

[lavish jackal]

btw, Homestuck ass animation

[gilded vortex]

Unfortunately I can’t use my Vriska emojis

[cunning silo]

OreofAKind

[gilded vortex]

I did make my first released mod Fish. Maybe you could have Stone Fish

[lavish jackal]

5 Ore A Kind

[lean dune]

5 of an oak

[lavish jackal]

stupid idea: a suit called "A Kind"

[cunning silo]

XD

[lean dune]

oh no

[lavish jackal]

a 4 of "A Kind" triggers The Family

a 2 of "A Kind" triggers The Duo

[lean dune]

me playing a Flush Five of 5 of A Kinds:

[lavish jackal]

[sleek granite]

soul of eternity lookin ass

[lean dune]

OAKception lmao

[cunning silo]

BTW where would you place that hand?

[lavish jackal]

youre just jealous because balatrostuck is becoming balatro's version of calamity mod /j

[cunning silo]

in terms of power

[lean dune]

what hand

[cunning silo]

i would say above Four of a Kind, but below Straight Flush

[lavish jackal]

I'd say 5 stones have like

shit chips

great mult

[cunning silo]

Ore of a Kind

[lean dune]

stone five?

[cunning silo]

yeah, like 5 chips, but 8 mult or something

[cunning silo]

yup

[gilded vortex]

Considering it’s impossible I’d at least make it above Straight Flush

[lavish jackal]

how is 5 of a stone kind impossible

[sleek granite]

clamity isnt even

[lavish jackal]

clamity..

[lean dune]

above 4oak
5X8 base
scales +2 chips, +8 mult

[cunning silo]

yeah i like that

[sleek granite]

soul of eternity is Fargo's souls mod you bum

[lavish jackal]

shut up

[sleek granite]

make me

[lean dune]

shut down

[lavish jackal]

Autumn "im not a bottom" Mood

[gilded vortex]

No stones in the deck

[lavish jackal]

yeah the same way that you dont have like

5 of the same card of same suit

now do you

[gilded vortex]

Which are all above Straight Flush

[lavish jackal]

its stone cards

[gilded vortex]

Because they’re impossible

[lavish jackal]

its funnier

its funnier if the stone secret is below straight flush

but scales up way faster

[gilded vortex]

I don’t agree with that logic

In terms of Poker Hand tiers

[lavish jackal]

launches you into The Sun

[gilded vortex]

It’s okay I’m wearing sunscreen

[lavish jackal]

no no

not the Sun

The Sun

the Tarot card

[gilded vortex]

Yeah

[lavish jackal]

enjoy being converted to Hearts suit

[gilded vortex]

It just sticks to me

[sleek granite]

WOOOO

[lean dune]

:0

[sleek granite]

what if it just gave a nutty amount of chips/level tho

[lean dune]

it's funnier if it doesn't

[cunning silo]

now I just need it to display stone cards in the display ):

[sleek granite]

5 wild cards = spectrum flush

5 steel cards = steel sweep

[lavish jackal]

5 gold cards - midas blast

[cunning silo]

XD

[lavish jackal]

midas blast scores less than high card but gives dollars

[grand geode]

piss beam

[sleek granite]

also i meant planet minecraft as in the website lul

but this is funnier

idk if planetminecraft was after your time in mc modding tho, feder

[cunning silo]

I play minecraft for 15 years XD

planet minecraft was my time

[sleek granite]

idk you always say it like you werent a part of it after like beta 1.3 or ehatever

[lavish jackal]

btw 3 more jokers

I need to do more work on the pumpkin later

but yeah

its going steady

[foggy crag]

probabilities

If you have 5 stone cards in deck

that's like 5 in 52 chance?

right?

[cunning silo]

yup

[foggy crag]

So, it's between 3oak and straight

[lavish jackal]

also how the hell is a flush harder than a straight according to this

flushes are way easier

[foggy crag]

it is

in real poker

[lavish jackal]

flush is my favorite hand

vriska would be a flush player and she would call straight/Xoaks players losers

[foggy crag]

i think it's cause flushes have more support than straights in the game atm

[sleek granite]

flushes benefit more from the ability to change the deck

[foggy crag]

trims, suit conversions, jokers

[sleek granite]

and we have discards

[foggy crag]

yeah, discards could even make 4oak hands work

[foggy crag]

acid ore

[sleek granite]

rock and stone

[cunning silo]

now this is the only problem

[lavish jackal]

yeah

[cunning silo]

don't woryr

[grand geode]

how high are the ore hands

[cunning silo]

ill find a fix for it in a sec

[rare shell]

is this even fixeable, I tried and had no luck

[cunning silo]

5 chips, 8 mult

[lavish jackal]

Also feder should I make a Codex compat mod for Balatrostuck

like

[grand geode]

high as in the hand order

[lavish jackal]

add a portion of Balatrostuck

that only inits

[cunning silo]

if you want, sure

[lavish jackal]

if you have Codex loaded

[cunning silo]

it's after everything else

[foggy crag]

between 3aok and straight

[sleek granite]

akai look at how Thac supports oddityapi

[foggy crag]

in terms of probabilities

[sleek granite]

do that

[cunning silo]

okay i know what to do

[lavish jackal]

i will also do an oddityapi compat portion of balatrostuck

#1116389027675906108stuck sweep

[sleek granite]

hell yeah

i meant for codex

but hell yeah

[lavish jackal]

im gonna like

make balatrostuck so cool

and once composite hands is out...

hehehehe

feder is there a way to like

check if a mod exists

[cunning silo]

Done!

[lavish jackal]

woo

[grand geode]

if smods.init.modname

[cunning silo]

i love how stupid this mod is

[lavish jackal]

add a Joker that looks like a Minecraft skin for Jimbo

[sleek granite]

this is why i was telling you to check TheAutumnCircus

you can load Thac without oddityapi and nothing breaks because of this :)

[lavish jackal]

ahh

will see how thats done

[sleek granite]

viable stone cards lets go?

[sleek granite]

this is the +mult for hand type joker

[lavish jackal]

yes

[sleek granite]

and like make it so it only shows up if you have played an ore of a kind

[grand geode]

the pebbler joker in question:

okay I'll stop

[sleek granite]

stoneker

[lavish jackal]

its so wild to think that

Minecraft and Homestuck

have existed in similar like

time period

like literally

also feder

when shall you release the Show Modded mod

also you should call it NotEnoughConsumables

[rare shell]

how did you do that? I was unable to fix the same thing, can I see how you did it?

[cunning silo]

I added a small patch to the showcase UI menu that allows you to add the enhancement of the displayed card

[lavish jackal]

also also I honestly love how everyone is making their own Consumable types

because it creates compat mod opportunity

[sleek granite]

im making the one standard that will make all 14 competing standards obsolete

[lavish jackal]

Oddities is cool for like

trinkets and such

[sleek granite]

(there are now 15 competing standards)

[lavish jackal]

its like Minecrft Baubles

[sleek granite]

if you dont want/need your consumable to be its own set, just toss it in oddities

the theme is there is no theme :)

[placid ginkgo]

how do i get balatro mods?

[wanton rapids]

we need modding chat and modding nerd chat

[gilded vortex]

In baseline Poker, one wait to intuit that Straights are easier than Flushes is that each card reduces the probability of drawing the same suit again, while Straights care about different ranks so the chance of drawing the card you need increases. Not to mention, if you have two consecutive cards, the range of possible Straights also increases, since you could end on the lowest or start from the highest of the two (this is intuition not a mathematical argument)

[grand geode]

xkcd

[lavish jackal]

we could make such a thread

like, a thread solely dedicated to being nerds

away from questions about how to get balatro mods and why lovely method no work

[gilded vortex]

You changed your profile so I almost pinged you

[lavish jackal]

we can just talk code

utopia..

[gilded vortex]

Can I join the mod nerd chat if I’m a noob 🤔

[lavish jackal]

of course

[wanton rapids]

modding server

[lavish jackal]

anyone who makes mods is welcome

players are not welcome

[gilded vortex]

If you play any kind of games, pie to the face

[lavish jackal]

we could make that tbf, just like, Balatro modding shadow council

[sleek granite]

i also have code in OddityAPI for scale_h and scale_w parameters in cards' pos tables, that set their size ala photograph/half joker, would this be something useful for Steamodded?

[wanton rapids]

glock oddity

[sleek granite]

money wizard shadow gang

[sleek granite]

(i make no guarantee this works for all usecases tho, i may have missed something)

[lavish jackal]

also I have a stupid idea for later down the line

Balatro Faithful texturepack

its like

all the Balatro sprites

but at double res

[sleek granite]

cringe i love it

usable jokers is gonna be so awesome yall dont even know its gonna be so cool and yall are gonna be so impressed

(yapping)

[fallow bramble]

Idk if its a joke but if not that sounds way too elitist

Also gm chat

[sleek granite]

players are not welcome

:)

gmsdm

[sleek granite]

i mainly just don't know if shunting extra vars into pos is a bad idea or not

[gilded vortex]

Balatro 1x1 texture pack

[sleek granite]

balatro ocd texturepack

[wanton rapids]

balatro 0x0 texture pack

[cursive compass]

i know this is an api but does anyone know if it's possible to revert a sound replacement done with Balatro-Custom-Sound-Player

add_custom_replace_sound only seems to accept new custom sounds and once you've added one then it's there for good

[wanton rapids]

isn't there a sound api built into steamodded now?

[cursive compass]

not yet i dont think?

[sleek granite]

there is but its not like
good

according to some of the ppl whove tried to use it ig

[lavish jackal]

behold

[sleek granite]

what are we beholding

exactly

whats uh. new?

[cursive compass]

i tried setting the Custom_Replace_Sound of the sound i replaced to nil but it crashed me

[wanton rapids]

the levelups?

[lavish jackal]

look at the badges

[sleek granite]

OH THATS NOT A STILL IMG

mobile moment

i have brain damage