the corner of solid objects that my pinkie can't stop stabbing into
#⚙・modding-general
cunning silo
muscle cramps in your lower leg at 2am that really hurt but you can't say anything since you don't want to wake up your family
taxes
rare shell
oh i also need to do some concept art for that other mod idea feder
cunning silo
oh i also need to do some concept art for that other mod idea feder
ooh yeah
umbral pilot
milk is best when you let it sit
dapper helm
oh god so many mods
rare shell
still thinkin abt the theme but itll come to me
rare shell
milk is best when you let it sit
dapper helm
milk is best when you let it sit
spoken like a true meth head
rare shell
milk doesnt have legs you fucking imbecile
lavish jackal
Balatro in 2025 will have like +20 pages of Jokers, 6 additional consumable types, 3 new mechanics, 40 new vouchers, 30 new blinds
umbral pilot
mine does 
rare shell
thats terrifying
lavish jackal
you lose ante 1 half the time
dapper helm
Balatro in 2025 will have like +20 pages of Jokers, 6 additional consumable type...
i think you're lowballing it a lot
sleek granite
and that's just the base game
dapper helm
woah flashing images
lavish jackal
HOMESTUCK ASS ANIMATION
cunning silo
i love the smell of epilepsy in the morning
wanton rapids
paint roller voucher?
umbral pilot
me too but I clicked on it anyways
dapper helm
i love the smell of epilepsy in the morning
i would die instantly if i was epileptic i love bright flashing colors
lavish jackal
homestuck fan response
rare shell
stone brook
ouch!
lavish jackal
lyman we should infest this server with terezi profile pictures i think
me and you and some other people maybe
think about it..
dapper helm
homestuck fan response
imagine i read it and end up hating it, not love hate but normal hate
lavish jackal
that'd be very homestuck
boreal ibex
i like homestuck
strong swift
i still dont know what it is
dapper helm
i like homestuck
banned
strong swift
nobody has given a satisfactory response
dapper helm
number 1 rule of homestuck is you can't like it
wanton rapids
ok this looks pretty alright
strong swift
https://homestuck.com
nah i'm not reading 8000 pages
rare shell
I miss the old homestuck
lavish jackal
but its good
dapper helm
i still dont know what it is
its cringe, and very popular with people who were on the internet within a certain time frame
boreal ibex
nah i'm not reading 8000 pages
ive gotten through 2000
lavish jackal
god dammit
strong swift
but its good
i really dont care if its good i'm not reading 8000 pages of any one thing
lavish jackal
taps the no kanye references sign
rare shell
dapper helm
i always think of a parody first then kanye
rare shell
You outed yourself
cunning silo
i have a moral obligation to make cursed stuff
stone brook
i know for a fact that im going to accidentally create an infinite loop somewhere
wanton rapids
no sprite for colour theory yet
astral glade
i like how specific paint roller is and then “Some”
wanton rapids
it's how codex arcanum specifies cauldron
cunning silo
it's how codex arcanum specifies cauldron
for Codex is 50%
cunning silo
welcome to codex: we love ambiguity
astral glade
Colour Theory more like Silly Theory
finite thunder
LOL Mods can do some funny shit.
stone brook
does anyone know if i change a card in G.deck if it affects the G.hand copy
wary moth
ikr
glad fog
can somebody help me, im making a joker like perkeo but with jokers and ive messed some thing up, whenever i hover on a joker or playing card (not tarots planets etc) it crashes
ignore the horrible coding, i suck at it
jovial notch
by chance if i just wanted my joker to not have an ability i can leav the ability out right?
like the ability i want doesnt have a variable so i can just delete this right?
ability = {
extra = {ease_dollars(8)}
},
Color gamuts for most computers are skewed away from some colors so this is fine
cursive compass
i need to actually do something in the balatro artstyle to show people that i'm competent with it but i have no ideas or excuse to use it
i would make my own mod but i think i would rather not learn lua within my lifetime
silver isle
Hey, so I just went through and separated out each of the Joker Sprites from the spritesheet. Would it be useful/okay to post the Zip here?
stone brook
im gonna cry, context.buying_card is called twice with the exact same parameters when you buy a joker
sleek granite
if its consistent
set a local variable to true the first time around, then check it the second time around and just set that variable to false
stone brook
yea i just did that
sleek granite
stone brook
i think its consistent
hopefully
testing it rn
alright looks consistent enough for me
i will deal with it in the future
sleek granite
how the hell do playing card uiboxes work ugh
stone brook
generate_uibox_ability_table returns a table with 2 important parameters: .main and .info. main is a parsed string of the card's main description, and info is a table of parsed strings of tooltips
you can just rip it apart from there
boreal ibex
goodnight modders of balatro
wanton rapids
isn't beaver on sell?
stone brook
yea but on sell kinda sucks in balatro
wanton rapids
i guess
stone brook
diet cola
wanton rapids
diet cola is good
stone brook
ok bad example
wanton rapids
no but i get what you mean
stone brook
this way theres incentive to actually level the card too
sleek granite
at least on-buy means you can keep editions(/stamps :))))) around
(ik this is balamod shhhh)
stone brook
oh god speaking of editions i need to figure out a way to transfer editions on buy
should holographic overwrite foil?
i.e if i had a foil card and i combine a holographic into it should it become holographic
stone brook
the way i have it currently is that if you buy one from shop it instantly combines
wanton rapids
ah
stone brook
probably gonna change that actually
but i dont wanna figure out the dragging thing...
wanton rapids
yeah ok it looks pretty good
cunning silo
i just had a really fun idea for a new consumable
sleek granite
is it a poker chip
cunning silo
is it a poker chip
sadly no (although it would be fun to make "bets" during gameplay)
hey
i should get on that XD
sleek granite
but
sleek granite
:)
cunning silo
it's a different kind of consumable
but before that, it's time to actually make a proper alchemical API!
cunning silo
oddity API jumpscare XD
dapper helm
the best example mod you've ever seen coming Soon™️
sleek granite
theres like four or five more things i need to make for oddity api
cunning silo
theres like four or five more things i need to make for oddity api
what are those?
sleek granite
oddities are registered with rarities, but they dont do anything atm (theres no pools or whatever)
oddity packs
i kinda wanna make it so you can make non-consumable oddities with some similar code to how usable jokers work
and update my cloned tarot api functions to how current tarot api works with regards to at least debug messages and stuff
oh yeah and figure out some way to hook into Shop Code to let oddities be in the shop
wanton rapids
silver btw
sleek granite
tag sliver
shy pivot
the new space reverie casually cooked up
sleek granite
i cant use that space
cunning silo
solemn solar
How do you guys deal with the graphic on new cards? Do you make a new png and set center data or adjust the original?
cunning silo
https://tenor.com/view/tamari-mariyam-rbb-ghostandpals-gnp-gif-40294033163605166...
XD
wanton rapids
hm, i need effects for brown, grey, green, and peach
iron onyx
would be so nice if this game had a quick restart option
sleek granite
hold r
my brain: need good programming music
me: ok like what
my brain:
my brain: need good programming music
lavish jackal
my brain: need good programming music
me: ok like what
my brain:
my brain: need ...
i have some recs
lavish jackal
are they all homestuck
might be..
wanton rapids
actually moving double to grey and making silver polychrome
brown can be standard tag??
and 2 rounds because that's weak
small thistle
Does anyone have templates for joker cards?
grand geode
if you use aseprite here's one by lyman
small thistle
I tried aseprite once i gues
In gamemaker 3
Might try aseprote yet again, thanks
sleek granite
mousing over an oddity pack crashes the game aaaaa
lavish jackal
low effort, just took a photo and vaguely quantized and dithered it
homestuck reference
sleek granite
im literally doing everything codex does
ugh
i hate having to work without an api
grand geode
mousing over an oddity pack crashes the game aaaaa
oops! all nil!
sleek granite
everything's nil for no fucking reason!!! :DDDDD
i dont understand how literally any of this code works!!! :DDDDD
rapidly this is becoming less of a Fun Brainteasing Puzzle and quickly devolving into I Am The Stupidest Person To Ever Walk The Earth, Why Does This Code Fail Only When I Use It
iron onyx
@sleek granite that's how i felt doing EnhanceAPI
and how i'm currently feeling re-coding the straight detection of X Cards
but it's all good
because i'm figuring out a more efficient way to do it
fickle elbow
there is few problem with api
sleek granite
oddityapi cancelled im just going to bed before i forget how to breathe or whatever the fuck will come next
cunning silo
AAAAAA I THINK I MADE SOMETHING FUN
fickle elbow
what
iron onyx
there is few problem with api
yeah, i'm aware there are a few minor glitches. i'll get those fixed once i get X Cards released
fickle elbow
cools
iron onyx
assuming steamo doesn't harvest my code and add enhanceAPI to steamodded before i get around to it (which they have my full permission to do!)
grand geode
isn't steamo like super busy recently
fickle elbow
what is steamo's role in balatro?
lavish jackal
they're the creator of steamodded
fickle elbow
oh cool
lavish jackal
also nearly filled page 2 of jonklers
The first of the two dual presidents of United States
Homestuck is wild
cunning silo
I think it was @wanton rapids. How did you make an automatically winning card?
wanton rapids
i didnt?
fickle elbow
i did
cunning silo
how did you do it?
fickle elbow
lavish jackal
what did you cook
fickle elbow
what is it?
cunning silo
wanton rapids
isn't this just those chess consumables
kindred swallow
That is certainly not what I had in mind but that's like ten times cooler
cunning silo
isn't this just those chess consumables
wait someone is doing that>
wary moth
yes
wary moth
dw they didnt make one for a pair so yours isnt an exact copy of one
kindred swallow
Does it play your most played hand?
cunning silo
Does it play your most played hand?
i was planning on making ones for all hands XD
lavish jackal
is that part of alchemicals
cunning silo
is that part of alchemicals
nope
made a separate thread for it in #1231518402208731146
wary moth
i was planning on making ones for all hands XD
yeah sorry about that they made 9 of them (3oak and everything better)
fickle elbow
no the badge said pick a card
cunning silo
Pick A Card is the name of my testing mod
fickle elbow
btw how many projects you gonna start at once
cunning silo
I currently have 4/5
fickle elbow
is this a common thing?
cunning silo
yes
lavish jackal
itay can i maybe pick your brain at some point about Aspect logic stuff
i am trying to make it make sense
the more i try the more it becomes apparent i need to make my own API
cunning silo
I have:
Fusion Jokers (just released)
Codex Arcanum (working on 1.1, nearly finished)
Math Mod (Concepting/funny)
Secret mod
Composite Hands (Concepting)
lavish jackal
like, Aspects are weird because they run in their own loop so to speak
wary moth
actually i just got an idea ill go post that in your thread
lavish jackal
Their effects can insert into really dumb stuff like, Mind inserts into the G.FUNCS for drawing cards to deck
cunning silo
itay can i maybe pick your brain at some point about Aspect logic stuff
oh of course
lavish jackal
I have
Balatrostuck
iron onyx
i have...
lavish jackal
The issue is becoming that using consumables doesn't actually trigger an effect, the only thing Aspects gain from consumables is level up and changing current aspect
iron onyx
- jokerfusions
- the sin color mod
- numbalatro
- enhanceAPI
- x card (coming soon[tm])
lavish jackal
The actual Aspect logic runs in the game's core loop
wanton rapids
i have:
morefluff
sixtysuits (augh)
lavish jackal
There are some Aspects like Light and Heart which can run their effects in calculate_joker
But then there's also Aspects like Void and Doom which need more than calculate joker can offer
cunning silo
and you wonder how you will turn that into an API?
grand geode
why is everyone making their own apis these days
fickle elbow
no clue
cunning silo
How do you create a suckless way to actually do this
that's the thing, there is no good way to do that XD
lavish jackal
I guess my main issue is, I'm unsure at which point I should insert code for this
I've split it into 3 groups
fickle elbow
same lol
lavish jackal
Group A is stat changes, easiest of the bunch
cunning silo
that's a good idea
rare shell
Joker that is basically Isaac's "NO!" trinket?
lavish jackal
Group B is joker-like calculations, harder but it just makes you use the calculate_joker in similar way as Observatory does
fickle elbow
mine is much more broad
lavish jackal
group C is the worst one, it's persistent mechanics changes
things like Mind, Doom
Serpent mechanics, pulling probability from a different joker's calculation and like
using that to determine if you spawn a negative fool
it's a lot of bs
fickle elbow
i got A:subatomic cards, B: Particle cards C:Other
lavish jackal
A and B I've solved pretty easily, a lot of the effects can just live in consumable slot
And in calculate_joker
it's the C category that really bites me in the ass
cunning silo
also, you don't have to expose an API
lavish jackal
and for that I need to at least know where to insert myself
fickle elbow
A should be easiest for me, B is the little problem for me
lavish jackal
because there's no clear point for inserting that logic
specifically Doom is tricky because it relies on knowing 2 values
cunning silo
if there is no logical common point to insert logic, i don't think exposing an API would be best
lavish jackal
yeah
i'm thinking to just, hardcode it with aliasing and hope for the best
but like, the problem remains - where
fickle elbow
but like, the problem remains - where
yes
lavish jackal
Doom needs to have a point of access where it's able to poll 2 pieces of information
a) the denominator of a probability roll
b) the success of the probability roll
grand geode
b) the success of the probability roll
this feels impossible to do????
at least, extremely difficult
cunning silo
b) the success of the probability roll
the sucess is stored in every if statement that uses probability
lavish jackal
yeah, that much i know
the harder part is actually combining the 3 pieces of information
cunning silo
you can sit at pseudorandom, and just make it an impossibly high number
fickle elbow
cunning silo
there you have the 2 pieces
lavish jackal
yeah problem is that the denominator is fluid
it's the denominator of the joker/card/tarot that rolls
fickle elbow
make it a variable
lavish jackal
you don't get it do you
it's not a variable
it's a piece of existing game data
that I want to poll
fickle elbow
then its already a variable
wary moth
i made a list but it was too long so i put it in a zip file
lavish jackal
yeah, but that means that it's harder because
grand geode
i made a list but it was too long so i put it in a zip file
what's this
wary moth
what's this
a list of the things i made
lavish jackal
and that's why I'm asking itay because like
grand geode
why a zip 😭
lavish jackal
I'm trying to figure out how to actually do that
wary moth
why a zip 😭
the way discord renders txt files
grand geode
i'd rather have that than having to download a zip
lavish jackal
grab the other_card's (joker/tarot/playing) probability roll with denominator
because at that point it's actually easy
it's just
fickle elbow
wouldn't oops all 6s do that to doble it
lavish jackal
no???
fickle elbow
and if not theres some other joker mods that does the opposite
both kinds of opposite
lavish jackal
if other_card.roll_success == false and other_card.odds < self.level then
spawn_negative_fool() -- shorthand for spawning negative fool
end
like this is the final line
but for it to work
it needs to
a) hook into any ongoing probability roll
b) be able to get the denominator of the probability roll as well as the success of it
c) refer to its own level
these are the actual like, problems at hand
so now i'm trying to see if there's any common threading I can use to say, actually pull that off
the easiest way to get the ball rolling would be to hardcode all probability-based abilities, but then you run into a problem
a) everything I've made also has to be on there
b) compat issues
fickle elbow
i feel like what you want is still similar to whoo all 1s, in ortalab
lavish jackal
no
this has nothing to do with the probability value
and everything to do with the other value
the value that you divide the probability value by
fickle elbow
yea, i saw a joker that does the opposite let me find it
lavish jackal
this value
this value here
this is what i'm interersted in
not probability
the actual number you divide by
that's what scales up and is basis for comparison
this is what i want not G.game.probabilities
I don't want G.game.probabilities
fickle elbow
yea, i remember seeing a joker in my list that decreases that
lavish jackal
its not
a joker
it won't help
because i'm not looking for a joker code
this is a persistent ability
that hooks into the actual rolls
not a joker that exists in the cardarea
i don't have access to joker api because again, it's not a joker
and the issue i'm having is with figuring out how to actually get these values without like, hardcoding a list of all jokers, tarots and such that rely on probability
because that breaks compat big time
would hardcoding an array of ability names work? yeah it would
would it be a particularily useful or good solution? hell no
iron onyx
yeah, an API is probably what you want
lavish jackal
yeah but then the problem becomes that if I make an API that API will like, still not solve the core problem
the core problem here is when you stack mods together and they don't work the way you'd expect
say someone has a probability-based joker in their mod
and they want to play Balatrostuck and their mod together
lavish jackal
not really i don't think
iron onyx
tbh, it would probably be easier if we could like
fickle elbow
iron onyx
program the game to process fractional probability
lavish jackal
its primarily about identifying the pool of cards that rely on probability rolls
iron onyx
interrupting myself to say "holy shit" here
but okay, here's my thought
all probability effects in the games are based on an "odds" value
lavish jackal
correct
iron onyx
and that variable has always been a whole number
lavish jackal
and that's the number i want
lavish jackal
that's not the problem here
the problem is getting that 5 in 2 in 5
consistently
across multiple sets
glad fog
is there a way to guaranty jokers or spawn jokers in, im trying to test a custom one rn
wary moth
debug mode
iron onyx
uhhhhhhh
@lavish jackal this might be of use to you
for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.probabilities) do
G.GAME.probabilities[k] = v*2
end
end```how do i do that lmao
wary moth
how do i do that lmao
add the mod
iron onyx
OH
lavish jackal
again, the easiest way to accomplish a solution to my problem would be to make a massive list of all the ability names that deal with probability, and that way I'd be able to isolate them
iron onyx
that's usually noted in the "odds" variable
lavish jackal
yeah i know that
but there are exceptions to that
so I'm trying to figure out a way to get that value
glad fog
add the mod
like a debug mode mod?
wary moth
yes
lavish jackal
the issue with getting that value is that say, for example
wheel of fortune just uses extra
iron onyx
...i guess you could look in the localized version of the description chat.
search through lines for the regex formula %d+ in %d+
lavish jackal
could do so yeah
that would be more viable
but then you run into another problem of
iron onyx
tbh, you'll drive yourself mad striving for 100% mod compatibility
lavish jackal
true
grand geode
their fault tbh
grand geode
you either pull from the card object or the desc
iron onyx
<- is the idiot that coded EnhanceAPI
lavish jackal
i guess the desc would be the safest bet then
if someone doesn't include the x in y line then it's their fault why Balatrostuck Doom doesn't work with their stuff
that just leaves 2 Aspects then
The problem with these 2 is that they rely on context.scoring_hand and context.discard respectively
grand geode
you can put them in calculate_joker then?
lavish jackal
those are Joker contexts
but issue is that, there is no joker
it's a persistent ability
grand geode
or wherever the call for it is
lavish jackal
calculate_joker would technically work but then the problem is that
you have no self.ability.name check
or hm
maybe you do?
it's weird
technically speaking I could try to pull an Observatory
fickle elbow
isn't the v the denominator?
lavish jackal
this line specifically
iron onyx
honestly, you'd probably have to do a multi-pronged effort
to ensure maximum mod compatibility
looking in every place that an odds value normally is, AND the loc_def
lavish jackal
i suppose that in this context, the "jokers" would be the actual played cards for Breath/Blood
grand geode
don't all consumables get a calculate_joker call
lavish jackal
unsure, this isn't like, a normal consumable though
grand geode
for i=1, #G.jokers.cards + #G.consumeables.cards do
local _card = G.jokers.cards[i] or G.consumeables.cards[i - #G.jokers.cards]
--calculate the joker edition effects
local edition_effects = eval_card(_card, {cardarea = G.jokers, full_hand = G.play.cards, scoring_hand = scoring_hand, scoring_name = text, poker_hands = poker_hands, edition = true})
i think
wary moth
i need help
wanton rapids
don't all consumables get a calculate_joker call
only for joker_main
lavish jackal
this is more like
like, aspects are more like a game variable
rather than like, a consumable proper
using a consumable just
bumps up a number
and swaps current aspect in use
using the consumable is just the first step
grand geode
what is joker_main and why is it always joker_main
wanton rapids
joker_main is the one for stuff like +4 mult, x1.5 mult, +100 chips
wary moth
i need help
should i do the really good idea or should i continue debugging tres
grand geode
disgust
fallow bramble
Gm chat 👋
wary moth
hi
wary moth
should i do the really good idea or should i continue debugging tres
after much more pain i have decided to postpone the really good idea
rare shell
does "discovered" value on cards work properly in steamodded?
I mean if I'll set the discovered to false, would it reset every time the joker registers again (when relaunching the game for example)?
ummmm
grand geode
i think it does now
rare shell
how do I get rid of the description when it is not discovered?
lavish jackal
I believe there is a var for that?
rare shell
hide_desc?
trying it rn
hmmm I can't check if the card is discovered for some reason
I can apply hide_desc and it works fine, but I don't know how to apply it to undiscovered cards specifically
also it doesn't remove the title
bingo
cunning silo
i am not sure if I want to work on Composite Hands rn
sleek granite
welcome to my world
rare shell
oh yeah
sleek granite
itay i already do that every time i write myself into a corner with the stupid big mod projects of mine
procrastinating oddityapi by making homestuck suits and jokerstamps and
cunning silo
joker stamps is really fun
sleek granite
boosters are going to kill me
thanks
one or more of us should really use twitter more so there can be a spotlight on mods that arent Balatro Solitaire Texture Pack
sleek granite
yeah thats how that works
i couldnt tell you why thats how that works, but it do be like that
sleek granite
procrastinating oddityapi by making homestuck suits and jokerstamps and
speaking of, what meaningless distraction will i use to avoid dealing with booster pack code until a proper api exists....
rare shell
good
are the unlock effects planned for steamodded?
I think I've seen someone mention that
?
is it dying?
what is happening
rare shell
2 weeks ago isn't that long ago tbh
grand geode
(definitely the latter
grand geode
2 weeks ago isn't that long ago tbh
the last update was last week actually
dev branch
rare shell
even better
grand geode
mystjokers update coming never since im too lazy to art
rare shell
autumn why are you trying to kill this chat 😭
fallow bramble
autumn why are you trying to kill this chat 😭
Rude
rare shell
sorry I didn't mean to be :(
I just started a completely new save file for testing purposes and this is the very first booster pack I open...
balatro are you kidding me???
finite thunder
I got the mod where you can choose your shops first joker.... I chose cavendish... yup you can totally get it.
(free because of skipping small blind for poly chrome joker on beta branch)
lusty lily
rainbow banana...
finite thunder
You can also get legendaries in your first shop as well, they cost 20 though.
so you HAVE to skip for coupon or an editioned joker to get it.
rare shell
ooof the cards that aren't in the collection shoudn't do that
(although I wish jokers did that, tboi style)
sleek granite
should override the name but not the desc in that case
sleek granite
my grand plan for making mods is wait for everyone else to figure out how to do cool shit and then copy them
rare shell
imagine all the mods we'll have in like, year from now
4d balatro first person shooter,,
sleek granite
5d poker with time travel
fallow bramble
Balatro but every Joker you get hunts you in real life
fallow bramble
When" Ride The Bus" rides into your house
fallow bramble
Nice sell button you got there
grand geode
Balatro but every Joker you get hunts you in real life
5 jokers vs speedrunner rematch finale
sleek granite
i dont i hate modding stupid modding ruining my weekend
rare shell
I also realized I'm making an update without writing down any changelog
sleek granite
i dont think ive seen a proper changelog out of literally anyone here
rare shell
I'll 100% miss two or three things I added/changed
grand geode
have they not gotten to you guys yet?
the shadow people
sleek granite
definitely not me
grand geode
i dont think ive seen a proper changelog out of literally anyone here
HAVE YOU SEEN MY CHANGELOGS 😭
lavish jackal
i love vague early homestuck references
grand geode
i put a lot of care into them......
sleek granite
the shadow people
you can't just spill the beans on our organized takeover....
fallow bramble
Gotta love having a clean README 😊
sleek granite
myst unironically i dont think ive used a single mod of yours other than houserules 0.0.0.1
so no
gilded vortex
I made a third, easy Joker, Hamster. The visual/sound needs some fixing but it works. (Although I need to debug the Blueprint interaction.)
fallow bramble
Oog
gilded vortex
i love vague early homestuck references
vague homestuck refrances my beloved
sleek granite
hampter
grand geode
hampter
fallow bramble
hampter
gilded vortex
It's hard to evaluate balance when I have two of them, which I believe is because the debug doesn't remove the Joker from the pool
gilded vortex
Dog does seem like an above average scaler if you can get it going.
I didn't have Hamster synergy beyond two Hamsters, but it also seems like it has a lot of potential
lavish jackal
vague homestuck refrances my beloved
who even is this douchebag
lavish jackal
im gonna make something really low effort brb
gilded vortex
three rerolls cost 5+6+7=18
It's less than the $4 of Golden Joker, but you also reroll while you do it
gilded vortex
and d6 tag
Tag is a bit anti-synergistic because you see less shops
grand geode
rerolls are worth more than the eco
gilded vortex
Anyways, as I said, I do think Hamster is strong, it's just hard to gauge when the only synergy I had for it was impossible to obtain in a normal game
sleek granite
ankh:
west magnet
Are there any mods that auto-sort the joker order?
gilded vortex
Like, alphabetically?
west magnet
Optimal order
grand geode
Tag is a bit anti-synergistic because you see less shops
makes D6 Tag a better Investment Tag actually
6 rerolls from $0 nets you $25
and you get the money earlier
gilded vortex
Later because you skip one shop
grand geode
earlier than investment i meant
gilded vortex
If you don't skip, you get half of the $ one blind earlier
Anyways, I do think the feeling of buying selling in Balatro is slightly less fun than in SAP
IIRC, you could just click and drag twice, but in Balatro it takes four clicks
west magnet
speaking of SAP, imagine if you could freeze items in the shop until next time
strange frigate
mod still crashes on startup :/, can anyone check if im missing something? like a comma or closed bracket
sleek granite
thats my favorite tinkers construct material
sleek granite
no
lavish jackal
cryting
sleek granite
theyre literally publically released lmao
https://github.com/AutumnMood924/TheAutumnCircus/releases/tag/0.2.2 download my trash
gilded vortex
I made a third, easy Joker, Hamster. The visual/sound needs some fixing but it w...
What can we do and what can't we do with Blueprint? I'm trying to make Hamster work with it, but I'm not sure if I should change the countdown variable I have in extra in Blueprint
lean dune
Todd and Steven are the wrong way round lmao
sleek granite
joker yaoi...
lavish jackal
it is done
gilded vortex
old man yaoi…
lean dune
What can we do and what can't we do with Blueprint? I'm trying to make Hamster w...
you should exclude the effect of changing the countdown in blueprint, but activate the effect if the condition is met regardless
gilded vortex
you should exclude the effect of changing the countdown in blueprint, but activa...
Does this mean that I can check the value of the countdown while in Blueprint, but I should check if it's Blueprint just to avoid changing it?
Like this
if context.reroll_shop and self.ability.name == 'Hamster' then
if self.ability.extra.rolls == 1 then
if not context.blueprint then
self.ability.extra.rolls = 3
end
ease_dollars(self.ability.extra.dollars, true)
else
if not context.blueprint then
self.ability.extra.rolls = self.ability.extra.rolls - 1
end
end
end
hhhhh why is it so hard to detect if a card is in the collection or not 
cunning silo
thats my favorite tinkers construct material
tinker's construct?
sleek granite
mc mod
sleek granite
oh there's an addon that literally adds that cover art
as a tcon material
i have no idea why
lavish jackal
weezerium
please free me of the burden and use the weezer art
just idk, make a Weezer Joker or sth
jeezer
woker
pale anvil
for my seal look good?
lean dune
Like this
```lua
if context.reroll_shop and self.ability.name == 'Hamster' then
...
looks about right
gilded vortex
for my seal look good?
I love the artstyle. What's supposed to be written?
pale anvil
oops 6 or the effevt?
rapid epoch
i love balatro mods but juggling the different versions in un-version-named folders on steamodded is giving me anxiety
steamodded management... some day
sleek granite
you can name the folders whatever you want
grand geode
do i start versioning my mods...
grand geode
carmine mortar
oops 6 or the effevt?
Both
lean dune
i've already peaked ~~at versioning~~
0.0.0.0.0.0.0
carmine mortar
for my seal look good?
Oops 20
sleek granite
i love trying to use enhanceapi
grand geode
i'm sorry for your loss
gilded vortex
oops 6 or the effevt?
So it's indeed "oops6"
pale anvil
So it's indeed "oops6"
yea ima change it to 20 tho thats smarter but yea same effect as oops 6
lean dune
||babalatro||
gilded vortex
yea ima change it to 20 tho thats smarter but yea same effect as oops 6
To be fair, both are a bit confusing, especially with that keming
gilded vortex
yea ima change it to 20 tho thats smarter but yea same effect as oops 6
Oh, then main do "Oops all 20s"
lavish jackal
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1153815324643299458/12315660934...
thank you for using my awful spawn
rapid epoch
Oh, then main do "Oops all 20s"
"Oops! All..."
all effects, positive and negative, are "very guaranteed" to trigger.
side effect: any glass card plays turns the entire hand to glass and shatters it
basically, chance based effects always proc but with some twist, possibly a horrible drawback
sleek granite
alright so im pretty sure enhanceapi just doesnt work
awesome
so much for making enhancements i guess
pale anvil
sleek granite
just gonna post this in the off chance i did something moronic
iron onyx
alright so im pretty sure enhanceapi just doesnt work
what happened? i put a testcard in there earlier
sleek granite
i love trying to use enhanceapi
this happens constantly
cunning silo
the table is where you define the variables
can you send the github link?
sleek granite
fine give me a second to find it in recycle bin
iron onyx
can you send the github link?
it's... in its own forum post...?
cunning silo
it's... in its own forum post...?
can tyou send the forum?
sleek granite
iron onyx
no, like... you're kind of doing it backwards
sleek granite
ok so it doesnt work then
iron onyx
the table needs the variables that define your enhancement
iron onyx
oh
sleek granite
sleek granite
that's valid lua syntax for literally every other function
it passes that table as argument 1
i'll try it
lavish jackal
i had an idea
iron onyx
all i'll say
sleek granite
but if this works that's even more confusing
lavish jackal
what if a Weezer balatro mod
sleek granite
nope
iron onyx
i tried hooking into localize
sleek granite
whatever straight in the trash this idea goes
lavish jackal
it adds 1 new joker (Weezer) 1 new deck (Weezer deck) 1 new Tarot (Weezer) 1 new blind (The Weezer) 1 new tag (Weezer tag)
iron onyx
literally just said "hey, if you could maybe print your args and then do whatever you were gonna do that'd be great"
sleek granite
this is nothing new
i am incapable of coding anything anymore
cant do packs cant do enhancements
literally peaked already
iron onyx
it's not just a you thing
sleek granite
whatever im done
lavish jackal
weezer blind
wanton rapids
you've lost
grand geode
you've lost
fuck you
lavish jackal
you've lost
that is indeed a loss
wary moth
autumn left the server
wary moth
yeah their name turned white so i checked and yeah 0 mutual servers
strange frigate
mod still crashes on startup :/, can anyone check if im missing something? like ...
why cant i find it 😭 omg
wanton rapids
might make Peach "create a soul card for every 9 rounds you've held this" or smth
grand geode
missing an end at the calculate func
lavish jackal
Myst what do you think of Weezer blnd
wary moth
i think it looks good
grand geode
Myst what do you think of Weezer blnd
it's
lavish jackal
it's
wary moth
its also loss
but
wary moth
can i suggest an effect for weezer blind
grand geode
whenever you play a card, play buddy holly
wanton rapids
you must play four of a kind
lavish jackal
it adds:
- 1 new Joker (Weezer)
- 1 new Blind (The Weezer (Can only play 4 cards)
- 1 new Tarot (Weezer)
- 1 new Seal (Weezer Seal)
- 1 new Enhancement (Weezer Card)
wary moth
can i suggest an effect for weezer blind
nvm it wouldntve changed anything
cunning silo
too much weezer
lavish jackal
itay did you see the weezer joker
cunning silo
no
cunning silo
ohhhhh i understand now
wary moth
what game
lavish jackal
I think the Weezer joker should gain X0.5 Mult for every 4oaks Jacks played
wary moth
x0.4 because four
wanton rapids
the blue card even
wary moth
what does the Weezer seal do
something about 4
iron onyx
now i feel kinda responsible 😞
even if it isn't my fault that lua is counterintuitive sometimes
gilded vortex
I've also been trying to understand it, but just because I want to make a square red instead of blue
pale anvil
i posted the seals
lavish jackal
something about 4
what if the Weezer seal retriggers played cards 4 times but only if 4 weezer seals are played
grand geode
even if it isn't my fault that lua is counterintuitive sometimes
tbf it was also trying to do stuff that the community has little experience on
but seeing it left just. sucks
wanton rapids
is this too strong?
gilded vortex
is this too strong?
It's weaker than Trading Card IMO
wanton rapids
it's a consumeable
gilded vortex
what kind
wanton rapids
colour, the kind i'm working on now
packs add them to your consumeable area, and they scale based on how long you've been holding them
for example, if you wait 6 rounds before using this, you get 3 cards destroyed and $12
gilded vortex
Depending on price and availability it sounds fine. Weaker than Hanged Man since you can't control it and it takes longer to power up, but has a higher ceiling.
I want to say it's a bit weak
wanton rapids
that's fair enough
gilded vortex
Since the base game doesn't care much about holding consumables, it's more a question about how much does it cost to get one, versus how good it is compared to the other options, and how often you can change colors
gilded vortex
But you can't buy them whenever
grand geode
colors when i show them my The Monster:
wanton rapids
hm
gilded vortex
Spectral packs are rarer than Tarot packs
wanton rapids
might make it lower money gain and only 1 round
gilded vortex
So you aren't going to be changing colors every round
gilded vortex
colour, the kind i'm working on now
By the way, I was thinking about adding some new consumables that didn't show up in existing pools. Is your code available anywhere?
wanton rapids
update's not out yet, check out codex arcanum though
gilded vortex
But is the code to create a new consumable type there?
lavish jackal
autumn is upset because it doesnt think that it has anything to offer to the community
cunning silo
hiiii
lavish jackal
thats why it left
cunning silo
they left the server ):
lavish jackal
yeah
wary moth
yeah
lavish jackal
just in a bad spot mentally right now, i think
wary moth
it happens
grand geode
tbf it was also trying to do stuff that the community has little experience on
yeah it's just this
iron onyx
yeah like
grand geode
oh burnout too ya
iron onyx
i literally made an entire "fake localization" function
just to get around issues i had with localize as a function
lavish jackal
i dont thnk this is about that
that issue was just a catalyst for something that was building up
iron onyx
i know, i'm just saying that i can understand how it feels to get frustrated because you have no idea what's going wrong
lavish jackal
if i were you guys I'd maybe try to reassure them or something idk, maybe give it time too though like
grand geode
thing is
lavish jackal
autumn is cool i thnk
grand geode
no shared servers
lavish jackal
just send a friend req
iron onyx
especially because it's ass o clock for me
grand geode
yeah uhm i'd just give it a few days
iron onyx
i'm at least giving it a few hours bc going to bed soon :p
lavish jackal
i don't like doing this
thats okay
gilded vortex
if i were you guys I'd maybe try to reassure them or something idk, maybe give i...
I thought about doing that, but I don't know it so I feel like I shouldn't @_@
wary moth
yeah waiting is probably the best thing to do rn
lavish jackal
yeah
iron onyx
if anyone does, they can feel free to pass on a "sorry" from me
lavish jackal
just worried about it is all
strange frigate
why cant i find it 😭 omg
progress!! i got a new crashlog!! still dont know how to fix it tho :(
wanton rapids
what's the crash?
strange frigate
what's the crash?
wanton rapids
you're missing a localisation for your joker
wanton rapids
can you send your code?
strange frigate
dms?
strange frigate
alr
wanton rapids
oh, the issue is you don't have a loc_def defined
strange frigate
huh
neat crater
hey does anyone know how to make a joker flip the cards in your hand?
strange frigate
how do i define that
gilded vortex
hey does anyone know how to make a joker flip the cards in your hand?
Ooh, I don't but I'd also like to know
I'd look at how the Boss Blinds do it
neat crater
how do i define that
something like this i think:
loc_def = function(self)
return { self.ability.extra.mult, self.ability.extra.x_mult, self.ability.extra.bald_tally }
end,
gilded vortex
how do i define that
It's a function that takes self and returns a dictionary of values you can use for tooltips on hover
strange frigate
where would that go?
gilded vortex
where would that go?
You can do something like
SMODS.Jokers.j_YOURSLUGHERE.loc_def = function(self)
return {}
end```inside init
grand geode
hey does anyone know how to make a joker flip the cards in your hand?
Card:flip()
neat crater
Card:flip()
wait its that simple?
gilded vortex
I guess it still needs to apply at some time
strange frigate
You can do something like
```lua
SMODS.Jokers.j_YOURSLUGHERE.loc_def = function...
where would i place that inside this code
tranquil roost
lusty lily
where would i place that inside this code
actually, i've been wondering, why is literally everything in the config part of SMODS.Joker:new?
gilded vortex
where would i place that inside this code
I'm not sure about pcall since I don't use it. I'd just define calculate and loc_def after registering the Joker
strange frigate
i have no idea ._.
im not good at this ok 😭
gilded vortex
Like this:
local localization = {
fourleafclubber = {
name = "Four Leaf Clubber",
text = {
"Lucky Clubs trigger again",
}
},
}
function SMODS.INIT.FourLeafClubber()
local jokers = {
{
name = "Four Leaf Clubber", slug = "fourleafclubber",
config = {extra=1}, rarity = 1, cost = 0,
blueprint_compat = true,
eternal_compat = true
},
}
-- Add Jokers to center
for _, v in ipairs(jokers) do
SMODS.Joker:new(v.name, v.slug, v.config, {x = 0, y = 0}, localization[v.slug], v.rarity, v.cost, true, true, v.blueprint_compat, v.eternal_compat, "", "j_"..v.slug):register()
SMODS.Sprite:new('j_'..v.slug, SMODS.findModByID("FourLeafClubber").path, "j_"..v.slug..".png", 71, 95, "asset_atli"):register()
end
-- Lucky Seven
SMODS.Jokers.j_fourleafclubber.calculate = function(self, context)
if context.repetition then
if context.cardarea == G.play then
if self.ability.name == 'Four Leaf Clubber' and context.other_card:is_suit("Clubs") and context.other_card.ability.name == "Lucky Card" then
return {
message = localize('k_again_ex'),
repetitions = self.ability.extra,
card = self
}
end
end
end
end
sendDebugMessage("Loaded FourLeafClubber~")
end```
neat crater
ok now i need to figure out how to get the 'Card:flip()' to activate for every card
grand geode
Like this:
```lua
local localization = {
fourleafclubber = {
name = ...
i can immediately tell it's the structure of mystjokers lmao
gilded vortex
ok now i need to figure out how to get the 'Card:flip()' to activate for every c...
Let me know when you do.
neat crater
kk
gilded vortex
i can immediately tell it's the structure of mystjokers lmao
Yes, I followed the tutorial
grand geode
not for long, mystjokers is getting a rewrite
cunning silo
wahoo
gilded vortex
```lua
for i = 1,#G.hand.cards do
G.hand.cards[i]:flip()
end
```
It still needs to proc at the appropriate time, and preferably before the card is drawn else you would've been able to see it
grand geode
i'm just not releasing it yet because i hate art grr
wanton rapids
hm. what should green do
gilded vortex
It makes discards green
fallow bramble
hm. what should green do
Something with rerolls if you haven't done it?
fallow bramble
The colour is fitting so yea
strange frigate
I'm not sure about `pcall` since I don't use it. I'd just define `calculate` and...
local success, error_message = pcall(function()
local j_omni6 = SMODS.Joker:new('Omni6', 'omni6', {
ability_name = 'Omni6',
ability = {
extra = {
penalty = 0,
},
},
config = {mult=10},
spritePos = {x=0,y=0},
loc_txt = {
name = 'Omni6',
text = {
'{C:red}+#1#{} Mult'
},
},
rarity = 2,
cost = 6,
unlocked = true,
discovered = true,
blueprint_compat = true,
eternal_compat = true,
atlas = "j_omni6.png",
mod_id = 'BoolMod',
calculate = function(self,context)
if next(context.poker_hands["Straight"]) then
local has_a_six = false -- we declare a variable, starting as false
for k, v in ipairs(context.full_hand) do -- for every card in your full hand
if v:get_id() == 6 then -- check if the current card we're looking at is a 6
has_a_six = true
end
end
if not has_a_six then
return nil
end
ease_dollars(5)
return {
message = localize('$')..self.ability.extra.penalty,
colour = G.C.MONEY,
delay = 0.45,
card = self
}
end
SMODS.Jokers.j_omni6.loc_def = function(self)
return {}
end
end
})
``` so like this?I guess
grand geode
why is everything in the {} actually
that's not how you declare a joker with SMODS.Joker:new
gilded vortex
```lua
local success, error_message = pcall(function()
local j_omni6...
also you forgot a comma
gilded vortex
that's not how you declare a joker with SMODS.Joker:new
But yeah, I'd define calculate outside and not define loc_def because it doesn't need to
strange frigate
also you forgot a comma
where?
gilded vortex
where?
You define calculate then loc_def but there's no comma between them. Also, as suggested, I think the whole structure should be different
gilded vortex
Like this:
```lua
local localization = {
fourleafclubber = {
name = ...
Try this
gilded vortex
is that the entire code btw
There’s some comments above and below like
--- STEAMODDED HEADER
etc.
gilded vortex
so i should just replace that example with my code and it should work
Yeah, change the names/slugs and the calculate function definition
strange frigate
alr
lean dune
```lua
local success, error_message = pcall(function()
local j_omni6...
yeah that's not quite how that works... it's going to change to something more like this (a single table parameter), but for now it's best to follow the example on the Steamodded wiki or of any other joker mod besides jelly
gilded vortex
alr
SMODS.Jokers.j_YOURSLUGHERE.calculate = function(self, context)
---YOUR DEFINITION HERE
end```using self is technically misleading
gilded vortex
using `self` is technically misleading
Why?
lean dune
the first argument is not the table the method is defined on, i.e. not SMODS.Jokers.j_YOURSLUG
instead, it's a Card object
sure you can use self to match the code in the original calculate_joker exactly, just keep in mind it's misleading
gilded vortex
Ah, I see
grand geode
using self is still easier to copy the code from calculate_joker over
lean dune
(also hi Aure)
(hi)
lean dune
yea
lean dune
using self is still easier to copy the code from calculate_joker over
there's also the difference of what gets passed to calculate vs. tooltip, which is obscured by using self
gilded vortex
https://gyazo.com/4ba73dc11b47faa23c86f177ec1341c8.mp4
<#1231518402208731146>
So you just play an empty hand but as a pair 🤔
grand geode
coming soon to a mystjokers near you, a billion separate lua files
gilded vortex
https://gyazo.com/4ba73dc11b47faa23c86f177ec1341c8.mp4
<#1231518402208731146>
Challenge Deck: Start with no cards but have some of those consumables
lean dune
I can think of cheesy ways to implement this that wouldn't account for hands included in the played hand, since technically there are no cards
grand geode
Challenge Deck: Start with no cards but have some of those consumables
that one t. cain challenge
lean dune
say there would be a card that plays 3oak, it's important to keep in mind pair jokers should also trigger
cunning silo
I can think of cheesy ways to implement this that wouldn't account for hands inc...
that's how I do it
it only count sas a 3oak if i do a 3aoak
gilded vortex
say there would be a card that plays 3oak, it's important to keep in mind pair j...
Not necessarily
lean dune
i feel like that's counterintuitive
gilded vortex
I see it more as overwriting the hand type from High Card to a specific one, but since it’s empty it doesn’t contain any hand except High Card
lean dune
a 3oak should contain a pair just as much as it contains a 3oak
gilded vortex
Well, if you overwrite it doesn’t even contain high card
lean dune
I see it more as overwriting the hand type from High Card to a specific one, but...
nope, there's no high card either if there's no card being played
gilded vortex
nope, there's no high card either if there's no card being played
It depends on the definition
I do agree a new hand for the Empty Hand would make sense
But without such a definition it ought to be High Card
lean dune
I'm just saying 3oak inherently contains a pair if it's meant to contain a 3oak
gilded vortex
I think High Card’s definition should just be “is a set of cards”, which includes the empty set
lean dune
i mean in text, the definition of high card is literally "none of the above"
so in a way, it does contain the empty set, because that doesn't make any hand that isn't high card
gilded vortex
I'm just saying 3oak inherently contains a pair if it's meant to *contain* a 3oa...
But that’s a consequence of the definitions. If you can construct a 3OAK that doesn’t contain a Pair, say, by overwriting the empty hand to be a 3OAK, then it doesn’t contain a Pair
lean dune
But that’s a consequence of the definitions. If you can construct a 3OAK that do...
but then it also doesn't contain 3oak
gilded vortex
i mean in text, the definition of high card is literally "none of the above"
But then the above hands don’t contain High Card, or do they?
lean dune
(don't get me started on the set containing all sets that don't contain themselves)
lean dune
But then the above hands don’t contain High Card, or do they?
they don't
gilded vortex
I guess if we look at the power set of the hand, then each set of a single card is High Card, so they do contain High Card
{A
} is contained in {A, A
} so it does contain High Card
gilded vortex
but then it also doesn't contain 3oak
It doesn’t, except you’re redefining it so that it does
lean dune
it's fine to say that a hand played via this mechanic doesn't contain a hand type because no hands were played, I'm just saying it's inconsistent to say a 3oak played this way contains no pair but does contain 3oak
gilded vortex
it's fine to say that a hand played via this mechanic doesn't contain a hand typ...
I disagree in the sense I could see it being defined either way, but I agree that it’s non-intuitive for the average person
lean dune
I don't mind either way, but either one such 3oak triggers both jokers that target pairs and 3oak, or neither
gilded vortex
The way I see it working is that you’re not redefining what hand it is, you’re redefining what hand you perceive it as, hence when you ask “give me the power set of this hand” you only see the empty set
Hence no pairs
lean dune
except that isn't how the game calculates hands
it takes the cards and asks each hand type if it's fulfilled, then uses that data to determine if a hand is contained
gilded vortex
I don’t know how the game does it in particular, but in an abstract sense I could see both working. Especially because implementation-wise, I could see the output of the function that calculates hand type be captured then overwritten
cunning silo
it takes the cards and asks each hand type if it's fulfilled, then uses that dat...
hey, i can always predefine the appropriate hands for each composite hand
gilded vortex
hey, i can always predefine the appropriate hands for each composite hand
Mod that adds extra hands that are subsets of existing hands: 
cunning silo
Mod that adds extra hands that are subsets of existing hands: <:nope:11857862595...
wdym?
gilded vortex
wdym?
I’m just saying if another mod added more hands that were subsets of existing hands, then they wouldn’t work because you hardcoded the subsets
It’s not a real issue unless you want your mod to be compatible with something that might exist
lean dune
eh, what subset of an existing hand could I even make that is always satisfied if a certain other hand is
gilded vortex
I didn’t say it made sense to do that
lean dune
3-card straights?
gilded vortex
eh, what subset of an existing hand could I even make that is always satisfied i...
But anyways, Stone Hands
gilded vortex
Spectrum cards?
lean dune
i mean you could always run the hand calc thingy on a dummy hand and go off that
cunning silo
like, composite hands for Spectrum
gilded vortex
Not Spectral?
cunning silo
Spectrum is a hand type in Six Suits
lean dune
yeah sure
umbral citrus
Spectrum is 5 cards of a different suit?
lean dune
me when "Play a Spectrum Five"
umbral citrus
but how about this example
this is a flush, but it will trigger pair related jokers
gilded vortex
Four Eyes
You can make Spectrum with four suits
lean dune
this is a flush, but it will trigger pair related jokers
but that's not something every flush does
cunning silo
i love that