⚙・modding-general

[wanton rapids]

7/4 buddy holly

[sleek granite]

how the hell do i do something when a card dies

[wanton rapids]

edit Card:remove_from_deck

[rare shell]

just card:remove I think

[wanton rapids]

or something like that yeah

[sleek granite]

trying to do this...

[wanton rapids]

"The wiki will be moderated by volunteers, who are members of the Balatro modding community." anything else i should include?

[sleek granite]

i get the first two prints but not the last

even though other code EXACTLY LIKE THIS

gets to the third print

[rare shell]

"those of which wish to represent the content reflected on their respective hosting platforms, such as GitHub, Thunderstore, etc" or something like that

"...and as subsequent are also adherent to the guidelines of their respective hosting platforms."

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wanton rapids]

?

[sleek granite]

nvm im dummy

[rare shell]

seems fine to me

[wanton rapids]

submitted the comment

it got approved!!

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/

[sleek granite]

wow i continue to be dumb

did you know: in the video game Balatro your starting hand size is 8?

i didnt and still dont

[runic kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/light-blinding-gif-5750844

[grand geode]

why is my hand size 8

8 what? meters?

[sleek granite]

yaoi hands

fr

[sullen bison]

If asked, I could work it out because I know getting 1 hand size makes you get guaranteed flushes in the checkered deck

[sleek granite]

well i just spent like 36 minutes wondering why only one of my custom seals was applying twice because i thought the starting hand size was 7 and it was becoming 9

[grand geode]

curse of 4 spades 4 hearts

[sleek granite]

THAT IS THE MOST RIGGED SHIT BTW

[grand geode]

36 minutes....

[rare shell]

how long did it take you to add pages

[grand geode]

um

[tropic pasture]

can someone help me please, i cant install steamodded and cause of this no mods

[grand geode]

one day or two

[sleek granite]

install steamodded with lovely

it's literally just better

[sleek granite]

i am also Not Right In The Head

[grand geode]

go to sleep

[sleek granite]

nah that aint it

[grand geode]

go to sleep

[rare shell]

me telling my commodore to go to a specific line

(it crashes because sleep isnt an integer)

[sleek granite]

hasn't helped the last 8969 times sorry

[wanton rapids]

alright if you want powers on the wiki ask

[sleek granite]

i should be banned from the wiki

[grand geode]

i don't have a miraheze account

[rare shell]

i can be trusted with wiki powers

[grand geode]

i should make one

[rare shell]

username SpikeBerd

[wanton rapids]

is jimbo hand size?

what does chaos do

[fallow bramble]

Free reroll no?

[lean dune]

stamped jokers coming soon to a certified jimbo vendor near you

[sleek granite]

oh yeah i guess i could call them stamps huh

they're just seals technically

[rare shell]

joker stamps joker stamps

[sleek granite]

Jimbo is hand size, Todd is Hands, Steven is Discards, Chaos gives money at end of round (nyi)

now i need to make the seals page in the collection not crash

[nova egret]

ah frick wait rule 3

nevermind

[sleek granite]

is Spectrum Five intentionally not a thing or has something broken

oh no the tooltips...

[alpine cosmos]

flashbang

[rare shell]

If it is something in the source code it's probably okay to report it to bug reports

[wanton rapids]

blame mediawiki

[nova egret]

nah it doesnt really matter

[alpine cosmos]

give that card rental

[sleek granite]

joker yaoi the sequel

wasnt there someone working on a payout api

[stone brook]

define payout

[sleek granite]

the payouts at the end of a round

[stone brook]

oh

[sleek granite]

these

[alpine cosmos]

like the money you get after a round

[stone brook]

isnt that just calculate_dollar_bonus

[sleek granite]

yeah but i wanna do it Properly

[alpine cosmos]

it could be easier

[sleek granite]

honestly im just worried about compatibility lol

[runic kraken]

first batch of jokers for my next theme done. Now I have to fix the art

[sleek granite]

stairs in the woods

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-maya-fey-ace-attorney-ladder-step-ladders-gif-17029032

[sleek granite]

7 has JOKER instead of OMEN

[runic kraken]

i know, im not done with the design of the jokers

[sleek granite]

need this as an omen

what a way to kill chat

[rare shell]

im LETTING my CAT out

https://tenor.com/view/ewpert-mitosis-gif-27638419

[alpine cosmos]

just kinda vibibng

[sleek granite]

it was more just the fact that the stairs remained

[alpine cosmos]

the stairs

[rare shell]

i told you

[sleek granite]

ayo the pizza here

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pizza-omori-stairs-gif-26093652

[wanton rapids]

so anyways

[sleek granite]

so anyways i guess i might have to sell my soul once more and make a wiki for my mod huh

[wanton rapids]

we don't have a main page yet calm down

[rare shell]

ladder seems kind of really bad by the way, since on average you're increasing blind size

oh i saw the other jokers

[runic kraken]

thats the point. I only added bad luck omens at the moment, they have a bigger chance for bad effects. Good luck omens are planed too.
And you can modify the odds with tarot cards later

[rare shell]

fair enough

[sleek granite]

its a whole thing

neat

[sleek granite]

me when i make an API better

stamp gaming

(vouchers are consumables right)

[stone brook]

close enough

[sleek granite]

finally,
good stuntman

[sullen bison]

The holographic text got eaten

[sleek granite]

yeah

i forget who it was but someone else had the same issue

when my brain turns on i'll ask them

[wanton rapids]

what should the logo for the wiki be

[sleek granite]

jimbo with nerd glasses

[grand geode]

riffraff

riffraff

[wanton rapids]

so scholar?

[sleek granite]

myst was it you having trouble with joker tooltips

[grand geode]

uhhhh

[sleek granite]

from the joker with everything on it

[grand geode]

not the same issue that you have

but kinda

ish

[sleek granite]

:/

[grand geode]

let me. check something. real quick

[sleek granite]

oh it's because of the first_pass thing isnt it

in generate_card_ui

i think?

cuz steamodded does this in place of all the everything vanilla does to show tooltips and i think maybe it's why its eating tooltips?

[grand geode]

"Do not discuss porting Balatro to additional platforms."

[graceful forge]

Ohhh my bad

Sorry

Deleted, thanks for reminding me

[grand geode]

that just appends the seal tooltip, no?

[sleek granite]

yeah but if it does this then it never does the vanilla code i think

[graceful forge]

I hope the mods don't see that

[sleek granite]

i think

[graceful forge]

I didn't know

😭

[grand geode]

oh trueee

does it still pass first_pass as true

[sleek granite]

first_pass is determined dynamically

and SHOULD be true in both cases but maybe not???? idk

at least i'm pretty sure this is a Steamodded thing and not a Autumn Fucked Up Something Obvious Again thing

[grand geode]

okay first_pass is only if full_ui_table doesn't exist already

...which steamodded has to generate i think

[sleek granite]

actually does it just not run the vanilla code if anything modded happens at all

i need more think emoji i only have like three

is the opposite of a think emoji

[grand geode]

tamariPlush

[sleek granite]

just an android, wielding spinning springs, who's got a head and a voice that are hollow, both /lyr

[grand geode]

that doesn't explain why it doesn't fill in the tooltip name on my end though

[grand geode]

banned for mentioning unsupported platform

[sleek granite]

lmao

more like banned for mentioning deleted ghost song

[grand geode]

i don't keep up with ghost lore

[sleek granite]

(i dont know why that would get me banned here but It Could)

[grand geode]

rinNoooooo

[sleek granite]

i dont think ghost keeps up with ghost lore either so

one of the weirdest deleted songs because its just a cover too

[lean dune]

I was confident this doesn't matter because other badges get their own generate_card_ui subordinate call anyway?

what kind of tooltips is it eating?

[grand geode]

editions

[lean dune]

oh this is with seals on jokers

[grand geode]

i'd assume it also eats stickers

[sleek granite]

yeah seals on jokers

idk if that breaks something Specific

i can't identify what would be broken

[lean dune]

that makes more sense, that was never accounted for

the seal portion of this is only made for playing cards, so it's assumed to be mutually exclusive with whatever the vanilla function does there

but then I'd assume it'll also eat tooltips on editionen playing cards...?

[sleek granite]

yeah sure it wasn't intended but i'm not seeing why it's not working

lemme try something rq

[lean dune]

basically it runs the vanilla functionality if it doesn't have anything to add by itself, from what I understand

just adding the vanilla badges before the custom seals should do fine

[sleek granite]

no negative tooltip

[lean dune]

same issue, I'd assume

[rare shell]

blueprint

[sleek granite]

the vanilla code isn't ran at all and i'm not sure there's a good solution outside of copying it all out (which has obvious reasons not to do that)

[lean dune]

perkeo

[lean dune]

its just the recursive and convoluted nature of that function, copying it over is the only way

[sleek granite]

unless you dissect the return of that function

[lean dune]

you can't, you need to change the control flow for everything to happen in order

the return value isn't of use at all unless you want more nodes[1].nodes[1].nodes[1].nodes[1] spam

[sleek granite]

just to show that like, otherwise the tooltips are good

[lean dune]

yeah it's only on modded objects, vanilla objects use the vanilla function

[sleek granite]

mhm

just like, still worthwhile to demonstrate that it's not busted on a larger scale

this one puzzles me now tho

[lean dune]

that makes more sense than I thought

[sleek granite]

hm?

[lean dune]

I skipped assigning these badges, so obviously they don't happen

I somehow thought it would loop back to the vanilla function being called, but it doesn't work that way

[sleek granite]

i need supernatural forces to associate with Todd and Steven.... hm....

[rare shell]

the eye in the sky

(the casino's security camera)

[lean dune]

👁️

[rare shell]

i just stole that from a king gizzard song

[alpine cosmos]

opposites attract?

[rare shell]

supernatural forces of comedy

Timing and Punchline

[sleek granite]

ok more specifically i'm making spectral cards for the Joker Stamps

[grand geode]

okay this is not specific to bobm but anything that adds extra tooltips don't display their names correctly

[alpine cosmos]

ohhhhh

[rare shell]

Whimsy & Wonder

[sleek granite]

hell yeah

[alpine cosmos]

nice

[rare shell]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-gif-9206555943534513157

[sleek granite]

imagine balatro lore drops and todd and steven are actually brothers

what will this do to the balatro modding community

[alpine cosmos]

i mean

[grand geode]

uh

[sleek granite]

but then the one for Todd isn't an odd character count nooooo

[rare shell]

lywoman told me about how in the detective conan fandom two characters that were shipped together very frequently were recently revealed to be first cousins

[alpine cosmos]

personally i'd find it hotter /THIS IS A JOKE TIS IS A JOKE

[grand geode]

i've never shipped odd todd x even steven anyway

[sleek granite]

i heard about this actually

like seventhhand

[alpine cosmos]

oath and isolation was the first i thought of

[rare shell]

funny & comedy

(dont)

[sleek granite]

comedy is jimbo

[rare shell]

true

whimsy & wit

[alpine cosmos]

oath because you need to make an oath to something (even)
isolation because when it's literally just you (odd)

[wanton rapids]

trying to add css to the wiki

[fallow bramble]

How's it looking?

[wanton rapids]

trying. will be finished hopefully soon

[rare shell]

with his eyes

[rare shell]

im gonna have a blast

[sleek granite]

please do not explode

[rare shell]

i am a machine that turns pixels into shitposts

[sleek granite]

hell yeah

[stone brook]

how do i delete ui elements? is it just ui:remove()?

(i know youre not really supposed to but im just testing stuff)

[alpine cosmos]

ooooooh

[rare shell]

(also jankjonklers is now officially 30 jonkers)

[sleek granite]

30 janky jonklers sitting in a tree

[rare shell]

merry king of the bush are thee

laugh jonklerbera laugh

gay your life must be

[alpine cosmos]

P O L Y AM-O-RY

[oblique ice]

I think the first three need to be generated with probability(

[fallow bramble]

Needs a few node imo

[rare shell]

when the node is [1]

[fallow bramble]

Guys hear me out

node[2]

I'm just saying

😦

[sleek granite]

not me implying that Jimbo, Todd, Steven, and Chaos are inherently supernatural entities with vast and unknowable power

[alpine cosmos]

are they not

i mean, think about it

[wanton rapids]

jimbo is at least

[rare shell]

i like to think jimbo is the only person to have won a bet against fortuno

but only by technicality

[sleek granite]

only because it would be funny

that's how his powers work

[rare shell]

exactly

for the bit

[sleek granite]

it's like the toons in who framed roger rabbit

impossible reality warping powers but only if used comedically

[rare shell]

that reminds me i need to sneak a reference to fortuno's silver surfer analogue

[alpine cosmos]

the very embodiment of chaos, taken form into a clown
jimbo is the humor of which all other balatro jokers originate
todd and steven are avatars of not only the two primary forces that make up the balatro scoring system (chips and mult), but when together, represent the very essence of numbers

[lean dune]

i just pushed something to the dev branch, can you try if it works with that?

[rare shell]

when are we making balatro story mode

[sleek granite]

balatro has no lore? fine. we'll do it ourselves.

[alpine cosmos]

precisely

the lore of balatro is that you have been transported to the dimension of balatro

[sleek granite]

jimbo's cosmic casino

[alpine cosmos]

and are forced to play at the whims of the ever-powerful and unknowable Jimbo

[rare shell]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040728743699816569/1224513852755148872/yapper.gif

[sleek granite]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-rogers-clown-joker-mr-rogers-gif-15771424223599792092

[rare shell]

oh god

[alpine cosmos]

the very existence of the boss blinds implies that jimbo's been in existence for at least a millenium

[sleek granite]

what are the blinds?

[alpine cosmos]

for how does he not only know of the ancient phoenician alphabet, but channel the powers so easily?

if not for the fact that he was there at its very creation

[fallow bramble]

New legendary joker

[alpine cosmos]

or perhaps is the cause that it was brought into existence

[rare shell]

balatro is latin

so

[sleek granite]

the phoenician alphabet was merely made in the form of Jimbo's power

[rare shell]

he might be unfortunately roman...

[sleek granite]

he's well-travelled

[alpine cosmos]

what is a name but simply a title we assign to something for it to be knowable to us?

[sleek granite]

perhaps balatro was the first name given to Jimbo

[alpine cosmos]

indeed

[rare shell]

jimbo went by big chungus for a brief stint

[sleek granite]

in the 1400s

nobody understood the joke

[alpine cosmos]

what we know now as balatro is merely a window into the vast and infinite power that jimbo can hold

[rare shell]

entity in technicolor clothing walking amongst istanbul

[alpine cosmos]

perhaps even
the legendary jokers we have

[sleek granite]

so sorry to break this lorechain but do the stamps themselves look alright owo

[alpine cosmos]

oh yeah they look pretty good!

[fallow bramble]

Got my mod added to awesome-balatro 🥳

Didn't make a chinese version cuz Idk how to write in it

And I don't trust translators

[sleek granite]

for anyone who hadn't seen

[fallow bramble]

Ye looks neat

[alpine cosmos]

i feel like a little bit more shading could be done to the inside of the stamps but thats just a tiny nitpick

they're pretty cool

[fallow bramble]

Yea the yellow one is less "glowly" than the others

[alpine cosmos]

they are not made in the image of historical jokers in our world, but rather the exact opposite
that our world and those historical jesters that bear the visage of the legendarys

are mere fragments of jimbo's power taken form and given life unto our world

[sleek granite]

are they other souls who've been trapped in jimbo's realm long enough they've become jesters themselves?

[alpine cosmos]

ah, perhaps that is true as well

[sleek granite]

hence why they are trapped within Soul Cards

[alpine cosmos]

oh my jimbo you're right

perhaps

[grand geode]

oh yeah i should've noticed that it didn't duplicate lol

[alpine cosmos]

being entered into the world of balatro is in fact the first stage of a metamorphosis

to be welcomed into the embrace of the powerful jimbo and become one with his domain

the soul crystal is not merely a container for a jester's soul, but rather a cocoon to protect it in its transformation

[sleek granite]

those who fail jimbo become released back unto the world, transformation only partially completed.

this is what happened back in like 2012 with all those clowns.

[alpine cosmos]

this is so the Stranger coded

[grand geode]

yup works! still no way to loc_vars from the tooltip though

[sleek granite]

Jimbo

Eldritch Deity of Comedy

[alpine cosmos]

Jimbo

'I do not know you'

[stone brook]

you could make your loc_vars a ternary operator so that it has a default

[wanton rapids]

working on css

[lean dune]

info_queue entries can have a vars field, have you tried using that?

[grand geode]

WHAT THE FUCK

[wanton rapids]

??

[alpine cosmos]

oooooooooooooooh

[round ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1133486683313164288.png?size=48&quality=lossless

[foggy crag]

Are those seals reskin?

[alpine cosmos]

?????????

are you using a vpn or something???

[sleek granite]

no

[foggy crag]

What are those then?

[grand geode]

no?????

[sleek granite]

seals

[foggy crag]

I mean what do they do

[grand geode]

could be that i'm on firefox which has a custom user.js

[alpine cosmos]

oh fuck wait i just realised im late on my research

ok byeee

[sleek granite]

lmao bye luna

[grand geode]

nope! chrome doesn't work either

plum_agony

[wanton rapids]

that is so weird

[sleek granite]

choose your fighter

(thinking of buffing chaos to $4 to match golden joker, since jimbo is on-par with juggler)

[granite silo]

Looks great. How rare do you plan on making these? Since they are just straight upside

[sleek granite]

the stamps themselves will be available through a voucher or through spectral cards (which will themselves have downsides i think)

[worn cradle]

I did it

[sleek granite]

also worth noting that they don't work when the joker they're on is debuffed, and ofc if you sell the joker you lose their effect

[rare shell]

And jankjonklers when I add mod support

[round ore]

nice

[stone brook]

looks like miraheze thinks your IP is a public one (which could be true, if you're using something like apartment building wifi, library wifi, or school wifi)

[worn cradle]

thanks to the lads at love2d discord

[sleek granite]

oooo lyman cookin with mod compatibility ideas already

[stone brook]

if its not a public one, you probably just email them at that email to fix it

[grand geode]

sent them an account creation request 🙏

[sleek granite]

hc that chaos sounds like krusty the clown, jimbo sounds like the mad hatter from the animated alice in wonderland, todd sounds like morshu, and steven has a very normal speaking voice

[grand geode]

back to jokering

[sleek granite]

also i put these in my joker slots earlier for some reason

[grand geode]

nope no worky

[iron onyx]

okay, so bad news: passing loc vars to enhancements doesn't seem to do anything.

[grand geode]

neither does config = { extra = 300 }

[iron onyx]

good news: i'm cracking open the balatronomicon once more

[sleek granite]

what the hell

[grand geode]

wtf~1

[lean dune]

I have it that joker has no loc_def function?

[grand geode]

fruitcake doesn't, bobm does

[lean dune]

try adding one to fruitcake that just returns an empty table

if that fixes things, I think ik what to do

[fallow bramble]

Yea a joker needs an empty loc_def if there's nothing in it, one of mine has that.

[grand geode]

nay for both vars and config

[runic kraken]

oh god, how many jokers are too many?

[lean dune]

i think the inside if block needs to be run even if only info_queue was modified

[sleek granite]

oh i forgot it says jokers normally

[lean dune]

in which case returning {} from loc_def should theoretically help

[lean dune]

Jon?kl?ers

[grand geode]

unless i'm dumb

[lean dune]

and it still does the same thing, but bobm displays properly on its own?

[sleek granite]

the fact all of this is over a joker with the most unserious name

[grand geode]

on its own yes it's normal

[grand geode]

i'm very serious about my shitposts

GITDtamariPlush

[lean dune]

can i see again how it looks in game?

[fallow bramble]

What's your modpack like lmao

[grand geode]

ya

[sleek granite]

but they were all deceived, for there was another comedic deity....

[grand geode]

i still need to sprite fruitcake </3

[grand geode]

the tiny jokers are so cute

riffraff

[sleek granite]

riff-raff but more

[lean dune]

looks like that's just on bobm's loc_def function not knowing how much time is left because there is no card

[sleek granite]

(taking recommendations on effect btw)

[grand geode]

if not self.ability.extra then return { 300 } end ?

shouldn't that work

[lean dune]

negative and eternal aren't there because these tooltips come from the joker itself being these things

[lean dune]

that should work, dunno why it doesn't

[grand geode]

yeah i removed the negative and eternal that i had to add previously

[sleek granite]

[grand geode]

stealing them

[sleek granite]

please do

[grand geode]

jimbo

[lean dune]

these are so cute no jo(n)k(l)e(r)

[sleek granite]

i was worried theyd look turbodumb so

thank you

[graceful forge]

Those emojis look nice

W

[pseudo quartz]

They look incredible

[graceful forge]

Frrr

[sleek granite]

they look even better on cards...

[graceful forge]

[graceful forge]

Damnnnnn

[pseudo quartz]

I love Merry Andy's big ol smile

[sleek granite]

he's just happy to be here

[graceful forge]

Who's Merry Andy?

[fallow bramble]

The rightmost one

[graceful forge]

Ahhh he's a Joker

W

[sleek granite]

the five nonlegendary named jokers

i know their names arent necessarily meant to be literal
but they are now

there's lore

it's (not) canon

[wanton rapids]

still trying to css

[graceful forge]

Interesting

[sleek granite]

i wouldn't wish css on my most hated foe

[cinder sage]

10% done !!!

[wanton rapids]

css my beloathed

[fallow bramble]

Giving 11 Joker mods a try was a bad idea

[obtuse tinsel]

hey folks I was wondering if there was anyone who could give me some help with installing mods, it doesn't even let me even open the mod files from my browser

[alpine cosmos]

ooooh

[fallow bramble]

Modpacks really hate context.full_hand and scoring_hand 😬

[sleek granite]

hey kids wanna buy a machete

[alpine cosmos]

it is suprisingly easy to buy an axe in central london

[obtuse tinsel]

will they show you how to mod balatro in central london

I checked the pins of the channel but I am still struggling

[wanton rapids]

ykw i'll finish the css tmr

[sleek granite]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1217867725532041369

[grand geode]

@lean dune you killed the descriptions

[obtuse tinsel]

yeah I tried the injector but it won't let me have it once it finishes downloading it, it gets sus and deletes it

[sleek granite]

polychrome the fool....

yes

[grand geode]

the fool (gay)

[sleek granite]

use Lovely instead

[obtuse tinsel]

literally me

[obtuse tinsel]

ok gotcha I will use the text guide then

[grand geode]

don't todd steven yaoi me

[sleek granite]

stevens hat looks so silly

[alpine cosmos]

personally i always had them in my head as
jimbo as the mad hatter, todd sounded like mr mxyzptlk, steven had like a stereotypical new yorka mob accent, chaos the clown was jevil, and merry andy as nikola orsinov

[obtuse tinsel]

oh also sorry for pinging you I didn't read your name

my brain is smol

[grand geode]

i'm glad you can read

[sleek granite]

i dont know what mr comic book gremlin sounds like, or who nikola orsinov is

[grand geode]

jimbo

[alpine cosmos]

thats Fair

[obtuse tinsel]

I make careless mistakes very often unfortunately

[sleek granite]

jevil chaos the clown is only because his name is chaos

[obtuse tinsel]

I must steal someone's brain without adhd

[alpine cosmos]

yeah pretty much

[sleek granite]

well keep looking you wont find one here

[obtuse tinsel]

lmao

[alpine cosmos]

i have a few in the back i think

[fallow bramble]

I'm the opposite if you want

[sleek granite]

the highlighted ones are WIP mods of mine

[grand geode]

definitely not here

[obtuse tinsel]

also I was wondering for the latest release of the lovely thing is it the crates thing?

[sleek granite]

the hell is crates

[fallow bramble]

Are all those mods compatible together?

[sleek granite]

yes

im literally running them rn

[fallow bramble]

Yea but like

Something it can get bad with context.full_hand or scoring_hand

[obtuse tinsel]

it's the top of the github page and I can't find anything else for the code stufff that is as recent

[sleek granite]

i havent had any crashes or issues that weren't my fault

[obtuse tinsel]

my brain smol

[fallow bramble]

Oh

This imply you still got crashes

[fallow bramble]

To the right there should be a "Releases" section

[sleek granite]

because im developing a shitpost

im putting seals on jokers dude ofc i'm gonna crash the game a few thousand times

[obtuse tinsel]

also what is the .zip archive

[fallow bramble]

Do I have outdated mods?

[sleek granite]

i think lush is old

right

idk i just got here like a week ago

[fallow bramble]

I was there 3 days before you

[sleek granite]

before

[fallow bramble]

Im dumb

[sleek granite]

[fallow bramble]

Real

[obtuse tinsel]

I am also dumb

[fallow bramble]

Hello fellow dumb

I'll give the modpack a try again without Lush

[grand geode]

fruitcake showcase

[obtuse tinsel]

but yeah I am confused on what to do next, do you just put the dll into a specific spot in the game files?

[sleek granite]

fruitcake showcase

[grand geode]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[sleek granite]

i like how you slowly checked the editions on everything and then died

[fallow bramble]

the dll goes into Steam\steamapps\common\Balatro

[obtuse tinsel]

ok I put it there

what do I do next, just install the mods?

[fallow bramble]

What have you done so far?

[sleek granite]

put steamodded into the mods folder

put other mods into the mods folder

win at life

[fallow bramble]

crash at context.full_hand

[sleek granite]

then download moreconsumables and Offering all your deck away

[fallow bramble]

[tall vessel]

Is it possible to make the version.dll point to another folder for the Mods? I'm trying to run a separate save and separate EXE for the modded content but steammodded is not loading when placed in the appdata folder under the separate EXE's name.

[obtuse tinsel]

I got the lovely injector thing, got the dll and put it into the common balatro folder, and I am not sure what to do next because I don't know where there is a mods folder

[grand geode]

then download houserules and Offering all your sanity away

[fallow bramble]

https://github.com/jie65535/awesome-balatro?tab=readme-ov-file

[sleek granite]

then download houserules and leave it all up to Chance

[fallow bramble]

then download SDM_0's Stuff and never encouter the new Jokers cuz half of them are Rare 😎

[tall vessel]

Basically I'm trying to do something like this

[grand geode]

unsure! i have lovely mods and some qol mods on my main installation

and the rest of my mods on my modded installation

[obtuse tinsel]

I am confused what

[fallow bramble]

This is a page with all the mods

[obtuse tinsel]

ok gotcha

[cosmic shell]

you can put --mod-dir "C:/path/to/Mods" in the steam launch options

[obtuse tinsel]

I just don't know where to download them to

I am not very tech literate unfortunately

[tall vessel]

This is only for the separate EXE right? My Steam launch loads the (to be unmodded) EXE and its saves by default.

[obtuse tinsel]

also seems like most of the mods require steammodded

[fallow bramble]

Click on the blue link to a mod, if you're lucky they'll have a "Releases" download just like Lovely

[cosmic shell]

no this is for lovely

[fallow bramble]

Yea that's what the lovely installer is for, weren't you trying to download Steamodded with it?

[obtuse tinsel]

yeah sorry I just have no idea what I am doing

I will go ahead and download steammodded

[fallow bramble]

Iirc there should be a video tutorial if you want to download steamodded trough lovely?

[sleek granite]

video tutorials

[tacit mountain]

https://youtu.be/62DAxTg4fqw

[sleek granite]

steamo jumpscare

[obtuse tinsel]

ok thank you

[sleek granite]

metherul jumpscare

[umbral pilot]

jesus steamo, at least warn us next time

HEY

[sleek granite]

i warned them

[umbral pilot]

I'm always watching

I feed my ego by Ctrl+f searching "lovely" every morning

[sleek granite]

"how do i install lovely"
"i dont get it i installed lovely and it doesnt work??? do i also need steamodded?????"
"where do i find the lovely dll"

[umbral pilot]

oh yeah

[sleek granite]

every day without r2modman mainstream support....

[tall vessel]

I figured it out. Make a shortcut for the copied EXE, then add the --mod-dir "C:/path/to/Mods after the Target location of the Shortcut. This lets you load the copied EXE with mods without affecting the original EXE launched from Steam

[umbral pilot]

I'm cool as ice 😎

[cosmic shell]

you shouldn't need to make a copy of the exe, unless you want seperate saves and settings ig

[tall vessel]

Yeah, you usually don't need to do it. I personally wanted separate saves and settings so I did that.

[obtuse tinsel]

what mods would people reccommend trying out first?

I think I got the directory and stuff running

[bright comet]

Deluxe Consumables and MoreConsumables are cool

[obtuse tinsel]

deluxe and moreconsumables? ok gotcha

anything else or would you reccommend just starting with those two

[sleek granite]

moreconsumables gonna be poppin when i update it if people are already eating it up

[obtuse tinsel]

wait I don't see it in here

[sleek granite]

already looking at 1 new planet, 7 new spectrals, and 4 vouchers, as well as the joker stamps....

[obtuse tinsel]

lemme look harder

[fallow bramble]

Do ctrl+f and type the name in here

[obtuse tinsel]

yup not showing up for me

maybe I am on the wrong page

[simple venture]

any one have any idea what mod causes this or what can cause this

[sleek granite]

it'll be in modding

[simple venture]

wdym

[wanton rapids]

might be an outdated version of mystjokers

[sleek granite]

in #1226433760426201179

[simple venture]

ill remove it and see that actually could be it

[obtuse tinsel]

ok gotcha

do you just extract that into the mods folder? and then for deluxe, I can't find that

[sleek granite]

#1226210957253017691

search bar hard

[obtuse tinsel]

oh I was told it was deluxe consumables

so that's what I searched for

my bad

[simple venture]

that was it thank you so much bro

[wanton rapids]

ok this css will do for now

[tall vessel]

Great, the mod loader works for me now

[fallow bramble]

Neat

[simple venture]

looks good

[tall vessel]

Is there any toggle to turn on/off mods or do you usually just move the mods elsewhere?

[sleek granite]

yeetem

[grand geode]

latter

[obtuse tinsel]

I am happy

I now know how to do the mods

I thank you all, you have freed my soul

I shall pass on this knowledge to future generations

[wanton rapids]

anyways if someone who actually knows how to make wikis would like to make the starting pages that would be nice

[fallow bramble]

The squad

[fallow bramble]

Gj

[sleek granite]

the Great Five

Five beings born of the comedic ether....

[obtuse tinsel]

any reccommendations for joker mods?

[sleek granite]

a mirror

[obtuse tinsel]

no joker mods not jokers

silly billy I am not enough of a joker to be the embodiment of the synergy that is a good balatro run

[fallow bramble]

Mine

[obtuse tinsel]

which one is yours

[fallow bramble]

It's easy to find

[obtuse tinsel]

also what do you have to learn in order to make balatro mods

[sleek granite]

comedy

[fallow bramble]

But seriously tho there's plenty of those on the website I sent you, Mika's a good starting point imo.

[fallow bramble]

When to stop

[wet swallow]

how do i update steammodded halp

[obtuse tinsel]

wouldn't you just go to the latest release and get the stuff you got before?

idk tho my brain smol

[wet swallow]

i have no idea i am also dumb

[sleek granite]

powerful...

[obtuse tinsel]

Hmmm bormngar

[fallow bramble]

Now that's a combo alright

[sleek granite]

yippee

[sleek granite]

i could make this into a deck....

[wet swallow]

okay so um
why am i getting Contebrew.aml out of steamodded injector

[obtuse tinsel]

also feral catthing, I like ur mod art, especially for scry and the void and one other card I forgor

[sleek granite]

@rare shell another one

cuz my art looks like this

lyman does the cool stuff

[obtuse tinsel]

nah I think that looks cool too

[sleek granite]

tbf i did do on my own so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone brook]

hell

[obtuse tinsel]

ye those are cool

[sleek granite]

shop?

[stone brook]

collection

[sleek granite]

ooof

[stone brook]

specifically removing dynatext from the option select on the bottom

[sleek granite]

my Jonklers change is just a localization override

[carmine mortar]

What does it even do?

[sleek granite]

Jokers with Stamps cost $2 less

(to minimum of $1)

[carmine mortar]

Those five are the only ones that can appear on Jokers I assume?

[sleek granite]

its.... probably not great and may get buffed or overhauled before release

yeah

on jokers and not on playing cards

[stone brook]

what about making it so jokers with stamps appear more often

[sleek granite]

i could do that felt it was kinda boring tho

[stone brook]

true

[carmine mortar]

I’m assuming that’s what the first one does, or at least the first one is required to even get Jokers with stamps

[sleek granite]

and the stamps are pretty powerful

the first is required for jokers to generate with stamps, yeah

otherwise you can get them via spectrals

[carmine mortar]

Swell

[sleek granite]

me inflating the spectral card quantity in MoreConsumables by over triple in one night

(there were 3 now there's 10)

(also thats a lie i did phantom a few days ago)

[stone brook]

i wonder if theres an elegant way to work around bloating the pools

[sleek granite]

still no art tho lol

the elegant way to work around bloating the pools is to make the new additions to the pools not be unwelcome

[stone brook]

true

[carmine mortar]

What were the names of this and the base voucher?

[sleek granite]

Stamp Savvy
Stamp Coupon

MoreConsumables will also be adding Spectral Merchant and Spectral Tycoon in the next update

[astral glade]

did you get descriptions to work? or did they just work with jokers natively

[carmine mortar]

The spooky vouchers

[sleek granite]

it worked with jokers yeah

though there's jank with tooltips/descriptions on steamodded's side that SHOULD be worked out in dev versions now

and may be what your seals needed

also

get stamped

[astral glade]

THEYRE SO SILLY

i love them

[sleek granite]

i still need to properly implement Chaos and Andy but i finally got all the issues ironed out with the first three i think

also we may have accidentally created balatro lore

[astral glade]

lore is badass

[foggy crag]

I missed the convo

what stamps do?

[dapper helm]

i love the merry andy stamp's smile

[solid axle]

@shell dagger how well did it play with Reshade in VR?

[sleek granite]

see above for the first four
andy is % blind reduction

[foggy crag]

ohhh

thanks

[astral glade]

interesting

[dapper helm]

jimbo must be % silly increase

[sleek granite]

jimbo is +1 hand size

todd is +1 hand, steven is +1 discard, chaos is +$ at end of round

not sure on numbers for chaos/andy yet

[astral glade]

chaos should be random between like 2 and 7

just chaos

[dapper helm]

the hee hee hoo hoo surely counts as an increase in silliness

[sleek granite]

yeah

its jimbo's famous catchphrase (it's not)

[astral glade]

jimbo gets mad at people on the internet

[sleek granite]

jimbo spreads misinformation on purpose

[dapper helm]

andy consumes the misinformation without a second thought

[sleek granite]

chaos runs the social media and purposefully promotes jimbo's posts to every user's feed

[astral glade]

steven and todd are making out

[sleek granite]

toxic joker yaoi....

[astral glade]

jimbo’s life fanfiction

[sleek granite]

jimbo is the progenitor of the Eldritch Comedies

they are extensions of his divine whimsy

he manipulates the fate of those within his realm to suit what he would find funniest

win or lose.... it's all just entertainment for him

[astral glade]

hes so baby

[tardy sierra]

...What do these stamps even do?

[sleek granite]

im

[astral glade]

LOL

[sleek granite]

you had to scroll past this

[grand geode]

so what do those stamps do

[sleek granite]

very important check here #⚙・modding-general message

[cunning silo]

Do you know what I love? Tags

[sleek granite]

tag api confirmed

[cunning silo]

Shhhhhhhhh…

[grand geode]

ah so stamps make you scroll through messages on discord

[cunning silo]

You were not support to tell them!

[grand geode]

jimbo

[cunning silo]

XD

Yeah I’ll probably be making a tag API soon

[tardy sierra]

Ah, I see, they go on Jokers, right?

[sleek granite]

[cunning silo]

Cause I am working on the next patch of Codex and…

[fallow bramble]

Finally won a modpack run

[sleek granite]

joker stamps go on jokers ye

[fallow bramble]

Doing synergies with so many possibilities is hard

[cunning silo]

Ooh love these. What do they do?

[sleek granite]

aaaaaAAAA

[fallow bramble]

Shoutout to Themed Jokers for carrying this run love having x7.5

[cunning silo]

?

[sleek granite]

#⚙・modding-general message

[carmine mortar]

It’s up there, just scroll a bit

[dapper helm]

lmfao

[grand geode]

but what do the stamps actually do

[stone brook]

what if stamp on the consumables

[astral glade]

yeah what do they do fr

[carmine mortar]

They go on Jokers, and give effects

[astral glade]

im doing that one!!

[dapper helm]

whats a stamp again?

[fallow bramble]

What does the autumns do Stamp?

[sleek granite]

if you get all five jimbo appears in your room and takes you to his casino

[grand geode]

stamp do?

[grand geode]

would

would

would

[cunning silo]

Ohhh I see

[sleek granite]

myst is down bad for jimbo

[cunning silo]

I ship that

[sleek granite]

im soRRGY???

[fallow bramble]

Myst has a bodypillow of Jimbo 100%

[astral glade]

LMAO

[cunning silo]

Can we make the canon?

[grand geode]

no do not actually ship me with jimbo

nooooooooo

[cunning silo]

Too late buddy

XD

[hardy brook]

What modpack?

[astral glade]

todd and steven, now myst and jimbo

[fallow bramble]

Too bad

[fallow bramble]

Those

[cunning silo]

Autumn and not releasing mods is next

Jk autumn releases mods now

[grand geode]

best ship

fr

[astral glade]

REAL?

[sleek granite]

anyway
- +1 hand size
- +1 hands
- +1 discards
- +$4 at end of round
- -15% blind requirements

[fallow bramble]

Itayfeder and drugs next too (he loves alchemy)

[sleek granite]

i am outside your home

[cunning silo]

Feder and unethical experiments on cards (first alchemy and now fusions)

[hardy brook]

Ah. Might I suggest some other ones? (I wanna see if compatibility works on these mods now)

[cunning silo]

I’m on a bus

[sleek granite]

that explains why the door is locked

[fallow bramble]

Sure go ahead, don't suggest Lush tho it doesn't work.

[hardy brook]

No not lush

https://github.com/GauntletGames-2086/Ortalab-DEMO/releases/tag/v1.0.3

https://github.com/XenoCHeart/Crimsons-Ultimate-Card-Collection/releases/tag/1.0.4

[grand geode]

are you suggesting ortal

[cunning silo]

Codex Arcanum!

[grand geode]

god

[cunning silo]

Good mod

Fun mod

[hardy brook]

Yeah and add codex Arcanum

[cunning silo]

Unethical mod

[fallow bramble]

Holy

Ok

[astral glade]

you should totally add my mod (it has 6 blinds and 6 new planets)

[grand geode]

how so

[sleek granite]

ortalab is out? i didnt know :o

[hardy brook]

The beta is yeah

it's in bugtesting and compatibility testing

[cunning silo]

Idk

[sleek granite]

you should totally add my mod itll have like literally twice as much content once this update is ready

[cunning silo]

Ooh do I smell ortalab?

[hardy brook]

I'm also trying to see if the decks I make are compatible too

[fallow bramble]

Do you have a github link to Codex? (I don't wanna scroll trought the Codex forum post)

[dapper helm]

so true

[hardy brook]

#1221916334372290620

[hardy brook]

yes you do

[fallow bramble]

Brings me to the end...

[sleek granite]

man i wanna have more planets but coming up with ideas for em is hard

[hardy brook]

btw, 2/3 of the decks in Ultimate collection 1.0.4... Hope you like a challenge

[cunning silo]

https://github.com/itayfeder/Codex-Arcanum/releases/tag/release_1.0.1

Have fun!!!!

[sleek granite]

also i still only have 5 tarots lolll its the least represented in MoreConsumables now

[fallow bramble]

If it doesn't crash on launch it will be fun

[sleek granite]

itay have you found a good way to put a consumable from a pack into the consumable zone

[cunning silo]

Yes

I do it in Codex

[sleek granite]

doesnt codex do a janky way

[cunning silo]

Overwriting the base use so it would place it in consumable instead

[fallow bramble]

No crash on launch so far 👍

[hardy brook]

that's good

check the decks and jokers

[sleek granite]

where you see the card die but also go to consumables

[dapper helm]

looking forward to the totally real totally planned new tarot that lets you select 3 cards and randomly copies or destroys them

[cunning silo]

Yup

[hardy brook]

that too

[sleek granite]

i feel like theres gotta be a way to not yeet the card

[cunning silo]

Maybe

[sleek granite]

im not against this

[cunning silo]

It works for alchemy Soo

[sleek granite]

though it doesnt feel very tarot

[cunning silo]

Sadly yeah

[sleek granite]

feels more spectral tbqh

[grand geode]

tarots should not have a downside

[dapper helm]

true

[cunning silo]

Agreed

[sleek granite]

tarots shouldnt have a downside outside of you using them like a moron

[fallow bramble]

Going through the Joker collection and deck doesn't crash the game

[sleek granite]

(Death, bad suit convs)

[astral glade]

universe creating stone cards…..

[sleek granite]

(using The Tower at all)

[grand geode]

The Tower is

[dapper helm]

i still create lucky cards when i have woo all ones (reverse oops all sixes)....

[grand geode]

one of the tarots ever

[sleek granite]

just wait til i add Curse of the Tower to isaacmod (coming soon to a balatro 3200 miles from your location)

[hardy brook]

Just wait until I add literally every different deck and joker from 0.8.6 to Archived

Also heads up: there will be 2 "Steam Store" versions, since I don't know what version it's from

[cunning silo]

Are you still outside my door?

[sleek granite]

yea its cold out here

[cunning silo]

XD

Wait let me let you in real quick

[sleek granite]

i am 3200 miles outside your door

i am outside everyone's doors except my own

[cunning silo]

Planes exist for a reason

[sleek granite]

mate i work in a factory

[cunning silo]

XD

[oblique ice]

7 andy is -105%?

[stone brook]

id asssume its multiplicative instead of additive

[oblique ice]

than why not *85%(

[dapper helm]

how are you getting 7 andy

[hardy brook]

Oh right. forgot i have temporary textures lol

[civic grail]

would be a funny challenge run

all jokers are blank, all text is ?????

you just have to guess based on what it does

[stone brook]

all jokers face down

add that do the house rules mod

go go go

[civic grail]

maybe if its possible, make it possible to draw on the jokers

and so you can mark your jokers

[hardy brook]

Okay what the heck is going on. the editions aren't working anymore

it was working perfectly fine before

[civic grail]

i guess that mean

s

your plans were

foiled

[fallow bramble]

@hardy brook Got trough a whole run, nothing happened 👍

[hardy brook]

well you played plain deck, that's why

lol

[fallow bramble]

Oh that's not one of yours?

[hardy brook]

it is

but i was expecting... y'know one of the more interesting ones

[fallow bramble]

But I meant, no crash or nothing

[hardy brook]

that's good

[fallow bramble]

Nah I'm too bad at the game lol

[hardy brook]

🔫

[fallow bramble]

(the jokers Ive used if anyone care)

[hardy brook]

what's the M?

[fallow bramble]

Cosmic cards goes hard

[fickle elbow]

mikas

[hardy brook]

ah

[fallow bramble]

All of them but this were common lol

[hardy brook]

Football Card: Shows baseball player

[fallow bramble]

Cosmic aries had 380 chips to it

[stone brook]

thats obviously a football player, he's not holding a baseball bat

[hardy brook]

baseball helmet

[fallow bramble]

No that's its haircut

trust

[hardy brook]

I-

[stone brook]

they ran out of football helmets

[hardy brook]

anyways, i need to check what's wrong with edition_count

[grand geode]

bet

[tacit crest]

I broke the game

[stone brook]

n

[fallow bramble]

n

[dapper helm]

n

[hardy brook]

Okay this is weird

[foggy crag]

it is

[hardy brook]

Not that

I looked in the game files, edition_count is still in the files

i'm not sure why it's not working now

Might have to overwrite the function with itself to get it to work

[fallow bramble]

Btw has anyone ever won with the Extreme and Insane deck Crimson?

[hardy brook]

no

The furthest anyone's gotten are by myself and MurphyOBV to Ante 5

[fallow bramble]

On Insane?

[hardy brook]

on extreme

[fallow bramble]

Oh

[hardy brook]

idk exactly on insane

[grand geode]

if i add a "no card back effects" modifier then i can truly make a budget insane deck

[fallow bramble]

Evil Myst making a mod called "Guest's Privileges"

[grand geode]

where it's just positive stuff

evil

[fallow bramble]

Exactly

[hardy brook]

Wait, would overwriting the code even work?

[grand geode]

overwriting?

[hardy brook]

Idk, i'm trying to figure out why edition_count is not working

It's perfectly fine in the back code

but it's not loading in the game

[grand geode]

can't really help you if i don't know what you're trying to do

[hardy brook]

Okay, so there's a stretch of code called Edition_count

it randomly selects the number of cards to randomly turn into that amount

Lemme try removing the other mods

Okay for some reason it works now

yes that's my test amount

Readding ultimate collection

and now it breaks

trying with Ortalab

and it works

so it's something with the ultimate collection then

[grand geode]

okay coolio

[hardy brook]

Wait. is there a a way to ADD to a function? I think I might be straight up replacing them by accident

[umbral pilot]

crimson rn

[hardy brook]

lol, i highly doubt I'm any kind of chad,

[umbral pilot]

that's what a true chad would say

[grand geode]

yes??

[umbral pilot]

[grand geode]

you make a copy of the function and do stuff before and after it

but you can't add into the middle

[hardy brook]

So you're saying I have to just copy/paste the entire function and put it into the mod?

[grand geode]

that'd be overwriting it so don't do that

[cosmic shell]

you can put it in a variable and then call it from the new function

[grand geode]

do the local function_ref = function stuff

[hardy brook]

ok lemme try

i personally don't mind if it's at the end

okay, i must be stupid or something

[cosmic shell]

you're close, the top of the function should be

local Backapply_to_run_Ref = Back.apply_to_run
function Back:apply_to_run()
  Backapply_to_run_Ref(self)

[hardy brook]

oh okay

Can I change Backapply_to_run_Ref to anything or does it have to be that?

[cosmic shell]

it can be anything yea

it's just named like that for convention sake

[grand geode]

also i think you copied the entire code over?

don't, just call the ref then add your own code

[hardy brook]

What?

Wait how do I set it up then?

https://tenor.com/view/dio-brando-dio-jojo-confused-math-gif-24441915

Because i'm looking at the one up here that i have too

[cosmic shell]

that code is correct, you can just do the same thing with Back:apply_to_run

[hardy brook]

Like this?

function Back:apply_to_run()
    Archivedapply_to_run_Ref(self)

    if self.effect.config.start_joker then
        delay(0.4)
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                func = function()
                    local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers)
                    card:add_to_deck()
                    card:start_materialize()
                    G.jokers:emplace(card)
                return true
                end
            }))
    end
        
    if self.effect.config.start_consumeable then
        delay(0.4)
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                local card = create_card('Tarot', G.consumeables)
                card:add_to_deck()
                G.consumeables:emplace(card)
                card = create_card('Planet', G.consumeables)
                card:add_to_deck()
                G.consumeables:emplace(card)
            return true
            end
        }))
    end

    if self.effect.config.most_used_hand_level then 
        local handname, amount = 'None', 0
        for k, v in pairs(G.PROFILES[G.SETTINGS.profile].hand_usage) do if v.count > amount then handname = v.order; amount = v.count end end
        if handname ~= 'None' then 
            for i = 2, self.effect.config.most_used_hand_level do
                level_up_hand(nil, handname, true)
            end
        end
    end
end```

[cosmic shell]

yes just without repeating the start_consumable code from the original function

[hardy brook]

Oh those are two different start codes

One's Start_Joker, the other is Start_consumable

[cosmic shell]

then it's all good then

[hardy brook]

ok then the problem is in Kollection then

[foggy crag]

how did you learn Balatro code?

[hardy brook]

I didn't

[cosmic shell]

isn't start consumable provided in the base game?

[hardy brook]

not that i know of

i can look

[cosmic shell]

for nebula deck no?, or whichever one gives you 2 fools

[hardy brook]

that's config.voucher

[dapper helm]

evil nefarious deals with a dubious devilish benefactor

[grand geode]

Ghost Deck with Hex

[dapper helm]

magic deck

[grand geode]

bribed to teach me how to nodes[1]

[hardy brook]

That's a different code

[dapper helm]

nodes[1], nodes[1], nodes[3], nodes[1]

[hardy brook]

That uses Consumables = {input here]

Start_Consumable is an import from old checkered that randomly starts you with some random consumables

I think one tarot and 1 planet respectively

[grand geode]

hm alright

i thought start_joker and that were built-in so my bad

[hardy brook]

nope, they're reimports from old versions

So this is from the other mod

Yes, I used the example of all 4s to make all 6s

[dapper helm]

if else if else if else if else if else

[grand geode]

what the hell is that 😭

[hardy brook]

hell

[grand geode]

what is this ifelse purgatory

[hardy brook]

is it possible just to remove else?

[worn cradle]

bruh, what the hells is this

[hardy brook]

I'M NOT GOOD, OKAY?

My gosh

I get it

[rancid vine]

How do you get mods for the game

[cosmic shell]

nil/unset is the same as false, so setting the fields to false in an else branch is redundant