⚙・modding-general

[boreal ibex]

celsius

[haughty hinge]

kelvin :)

[boreal ibex]

hi kevin

[grand geode]

go ahead buy a joker

[haughty hinge]

im_salad

[cunning silo]

Not really

Since it does not stay rotated

[sleek granite]

yeah but

its a start

[iron onyx]

okay

this is a start

[sleek granite]

kamigawa flip jokers....

[cunning silo]

I can get the sprite to rotate when it’s dragged

But then it’s not interactive

[iron onyx]

it's adding the custom enhancement, but not finding the sprite

[rare shell]

i am going to Scream!

[grand geode]

uh

[cunning silo]

Are they dragged?

[rare shell]

[cunning silo]

TEACH ME YOUR SORCERY UI MAGE

[rare shell]

ʎʇǝᴉɔos

[grand geode]

you see,

i don't know what the fuck i just did

[cunning silo]

Code

[grand geode]

i kinda erased it to test more LMAO

[iron onyx]

okay. this is progress, for now.

[sleek granite]

steamodded isn't going to do its sprite thing with enhancements automatically, you'll need to do that yourshelf

you made the collection page have three rows....... how.........

[iron onyx]

cloning the code and changing the 2's to 3's

[sleek granite]

i am sane and can be trusted with information.....

[iron onyx]

wait, so... i have the sprite registering, and the sprite exists in the assets folder where it should. how the hell do i call it?

[sleek granite]

this code or similar is in each steamodded api

that's what handles the auto-assigning for sprites that share the same key

[sleek granite]

for clarity this is in SMODS.injectTarots()

since there's no Enhancement API to handle it, you'll need to do that yourself

[sleek granite]

with that sprite registered, does it work if you set G.P_CENTERS['m_line'].atlas?

[iron onyx]

don't know how i got it working

don't mcfucking care

[sleek granite]

i do enjoy LINE

[iron onyx]

yeah

line is nice

it's going to be like wild

except for straights instead of flushes

[sleek granite]

wild rank....

[iron onyx]

i posted a reddit thing

[sleek granite]

im allergic to reddit

and also i cant read

[iron onyx]

here's the link

basically, they wanted a card that functions as one less than the card to the left of it

and i thought

[sleek granite]

wild rank.....

[iron onyx]

"what if it just went either way?"

[sleek granite]

it'd be hard to make it full-on be like wild cards tho

since you cant just change a Card:get_rank function because that doesnt exist thank you thunk

so jokers that care about ranks will still see the original rank

[iron onyx]

there is Card:get_id()

which is what straight checks anyway

[sleek granite]

not everything checks that tho

[iron onyx]

AND get_straight(hand)

so you could easily, easily have the card function as intended

but that will be for tomorrow because i am

[grand geode]

get real

[iron onyx]

up way later than i wanted to be

[sleek granite]

pog

[grand geode]

@wanton rapids you wanted this

wait can you even beat ante 1 small blind

[sleek granite]

can you beat round 1

[grand geode]

sflush is 8 mult

[rare shell]

yellow deck:

[sleek granite]

32 points lets GOOO

[grand geode]

14*8 on yellow deck

you need three sflushes in a row

tamariPlush

[sleek granite]

do you even get three hands

[grand geode]

you start with 4 hands

duh

[sleek granite]

maybe hope to be able to skip first blind for a mega arcana hermit fool

[grand geode]

three 4oak + high card is also possible

[sleek granite]

or a mega buffoon double sell

or just straight up money

[grand geode]

can you even get buffoon tag ante 1

[sleek granite]

i have no fucking idea how tags work

[grand geode]

tamariPlush

[sleek granite]

LMAO

awesome

[grand geode]

the arcana tag isn't blacklisted ante 1 tho

[sleek granite]

arcana tag -> economy tag -> boss

arcana must be hermit fool

[grand geode]

true...

[sleek granite]

32 dollars

or more on yellow dek

88 dollars on yellow deck actually wow

sflush peaks at 704 then

[grand geode]

peak

[rigid knot]

Hiya, I've got a question for those of you who do modding. How hard would you say it is to mod custom jokers into the game for someone with only very rudimentary knowledge of coding? Sorry if this has been answered before :)

[dapper helm]

cooking but may i suggest the soul, sell for 10 then hermit

[sleek granite]

yellow deck gets more out of two hermits i think

[dapper helm]

true

[sleek granite]

not hard but there's not like a "getting started!!!" guide type of thing if thats what youre asking

we all kinda just look over each others' shoulders and copy what the guy to our left is doing

[rigid knot]

makes sense. i guess i should just start with taking a look at the source code + mods and try to piece things together

[sleek granite]

i might recommend doing some "practice" runs where you try to just do really simple stuff at first, like even just reimplementing an existing joker or something (say like, Odd Todd)

then try tweaking that into something else, to test your understanding of how things work

notepad++'s "find in files" function has been an absolute godsend for this type of thing btw
im sure other code editors have similar, and i know grep is a thing if youre on linux

dont know what a function does? just find it lol

[hardy brook]

Btw i was today years old that Visual studio code has a box select if you middle click

Yes, a BOX SELECT FOR TEXT

And it works EXACTLY like it would in MS Paint

[worn cradle]

is there way to install mods on top of binary with steamodded?

[glad token]

hey is there a mod that allows for eternal jokers to spawn on lower stakes ?

[grand geode]

what the heck

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah it has that

[hardy brook]

I’m serious. Go try it

[grand geode]

😭 why is this a thing

[hardy brook]

Helps me for removing early parts of code lol

[sleek granite]

does it skip whitespace

could be useful for like

[worn cradle]

is there way to install mods inside binary?

[sleek granite]

extracting a block of code from nested if statements or something

[worn cradle]

without using modloader in the end

[hardy brook]

Dunno if it skips whitespace

[sleek granite]

xzy i dont even know what youre asking

[hardy brook]

They want to manually install the mods

[sleek granite]

i mean i guess you can do that but it's probably a huge hassle

[worn cradle]

I want to use mods on different pc without installing steamodded or balamod

[rare shell]

im not sure theres a way that you can just directly install it into the binary without an injector

oh that wont work

all the mods use one of those 2 as a loader

[sleek granite]

yeah you are gonna need API functions from steamodded or balamod

even if you make them work as direct patches

why would you want to not use those....

[rare shell]

dont diss box select its very useful when editing arrays

[hardy brook]

I’m thinking of adding the first wave of jokers for archived soon with no effect

[rare shell]

i didnt mean to ping that time,,, im gonna be smited

yall dont even multicursor smh

[grand geode]

mariyamPlush

[hardy brook]

Multi-what?

[sleek granite]

multicursor

[rare shell]

in vscode you can have your lil pointer on multiple lines

[hardy brook]

Oh

[sleek granite]

you can do that in npp too

[rare shell]

npp is for cringe babies

[sleek granite]

i am a cringe baby

[rare shell]

[sleek granite]

i like my code editor to be no-frills

bite me

keep it simple stupid

[hardy brook]

Coding in Notepad

You wanted simple

[grand geode]

we coding on microsoft docs

[rare shell]

where is the frills???

[grand geode]

smoke crack with the wizard

[rare shell]

if thats your perogative

doxxed myself from the weather its joever

[dusky heart]

Why do you want to avoid using a modloader?

[rare shell]

wh

i

im goin to bed

[sleek granite]

[rare shell]

holy shit its 9:17

[sleek granite]

[wanton rapids]

it is in fact 9:17

[sleek granite]

9:17 gang rise up

[tacit mountain]

what

[dusky heart]

can confirm it is absolutely not 9:17

[sleek granite]

oh no mr steamodded

im fucking crying laughing oml

[grand geode]

..........how long did you stay awake for

[rare shell]

I am a nocturnal person

I try to sleep closer to like 7 am

any idea how can I get last hand played in joker's calculation?

[sleek granite]

you have to save it yourself i think

[rare shell]

there's G.GAME.last_hand_played but it's already different when you play the joker activates

[worn cradle]

@dusky heartI want to use some mods but I would like to retain simplicity of how things work

[sleek granite]

mika's historical joker saves the relevant information to itself

i assume this is to get around the behavior you're referring to

if you install steamodded on its own the only thing it does is add a version number and mods menu to the title screen????

[wanton rapids]

(and the apis which most mods use to add jokers)

most mods utilise the features steamodded adds and cannot work on their own

[dusky heart]

At this point, Steammodded installed with Lovely is probably the "simplest" modding solution. Most communities take a while to streamline the modding process

[rare shell]

I guess I'll save the info on played hand in joker itself, but there's will be no hand saved right at the start

[worn cradle]

again I would like to not using whole two eparate things just to play the game

[dusky heart]

If you're uncomfortable with adding too many things that might break later, you can always check back in 6 months to see if things have progressed

[rare shell]

Is it possible to return without message?

[sleek granite]

you could probably get away with saving the information to a global variable, though i'm not sure how to make that work with saving, nor what you'd exactly need to hook into for that

[sleek granite]

once you install them.... lovely and steamodded are just.... there????

[rare shell]

nah saving without knowing hand beforehand is fine I guess

[rare shell]

I want to get rid of this nasty square when returning

[sleek granite]

i think you just dont return then?

[rare shell]

oh if I do just 'mult = something' it'll add, yes?

[sleek granite]

yeah you can interact with hand_chips and mult directly if you want

i made a joker a while back that swaps chips and mult when it calcs

[grand geode]

hand_chips, mult = mult, hand_chips

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1226033049955860561.webp?size=48

[sleek granite]

shhhhhhh

im dummy

[rare shell]

potater chips......

why do you people don't have squiggly lines all over the place when using visual studio code

[sleek granite]

i forgot this was valid lua tbh

Sir/Ma'am this is notepad++

[rare shell]

notepad++...

🦣

[grand geode]

i don't even know whether it's valid or not lmao

[rare shell]

Am I mastodonte?

[worn cradle]

I like notepad3

much simpler than np++ but good enough

[sleek granite]

if notepad is so good why havent they made a notepad2

[worn cradle]

there was notepad2 actually

[rare shell]

if balatro is so good why havent they made a balatro2

[grand geode]

notepad 2 now with more AI bullshit!

[grand geode]

clearly i should make balatro 2 for next april fools

[worn cradle]

@grand geodebalatwo

[sleek granite]

next april fools we need a mod that just makes the game into a different card game entirely

[worn cradle]

just opens StS

[sleek granite]

just IS StS

[rare shell]

Idk, just setting the mult/chips vars doesn't do anything

Isn't there a different vars for end_calculate_context?

[sleek granite]

you need to do the update hand text thing to show it

and yeah maybe idk

[rare shell]

wait is updating hand text will basically replace the numbers in there?

[dusky heart]

Seems like Windows Defender's heuristic ML is now flagging Lovely's version.dll as a virus (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.H!ml), that's annoying

[dapper helm]

uno...

[sleek granite]

its the function to change the numbers in the blue and red boxes

[rare shell]

yes but it's not gonna add the numbers and replace them instead, no?

how do I get current displayed chips & mult

yep it replaces the numbers XD

[sleek granite]

if its not hand_chips and mult its something that idk

[rare shell]

it's time to mult = mult + ...

[sleek granite]

yes

this is how program

[rare shell]

lua stinky

mult += ... would've been much better

[grand geode]

no += for you

[rare shell]

what sound is used for message

[worn cradle]

mult = fact(mult)

[sleek granite]

sounds arent real dw

[rare shell]

wobbly air

[sleek granite]

for i=mult, 1, -1 do
  mult++
end

[grand geode]

😭

[sleek granite]

optimal code

[ebon flame]

How would I go about modifying run restarts to keep the current seed?

I assume it would be a simple one-liner

[strong swift]

you're joker

[sleek granite]

ye

whats up

[ebon flame]

Where can I find docs for the game's API?

[sleek granite]

you cant because they dont exist yet

also the game itself has no api

[ebon flame]

How are people finding the hooks? I assume extracting the base game's LUA?

[worn cradle]

@ebon flame
7za x Balatro.exe
have fun

[ebon flame]

ty

[sleek granite]

7zip can open the game exe, yeah

Steamodded has some APIs for registering game objects and most general functionalities of each

[tacit mountain]

@umbral pilot Maybe you can solve it with it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission

I mean, it never completely helped for Steamodded injector, but I think it will be way easier for lovely

[wet river]

I went through it. It was accepted, but it didn't last. It even worked for a few minor version changes, but very quickly was regestered as a virus again. I just ended up making a mod tutorial video that uses my AHK bypass.

[hardy brook]

Let's see if i can make jokers again

[tacit mountain]

For lovely you mean ?

[wet river]

I might be misunderstanding the context.

Mb

I don't think that lovely is the issue though, because the exclusions for defender need to be made for the injector and the injector active executable.

Unless you're just saying Lovely in general is coming up as a virus, which I don't think is the case.

[umbral pilot]

damn

the only difference is the exported dll

[tacit mountain]

It does right now somehow

[umbral pilot]

there's unfortunately not a lot of wiggle room here though. version is the most simple module that we can proxy, everything else is pretty massive.

winhttp is a common proxy target but love2d doesn't import it

[tacit mountain]

Maybe a simple submission will work for this one. There is a chance it flag it because of "habit".

[umbral pilot]

I might chat with the BepInEx devs about how they mitigate this sorta thing

but yeah, I'm hoping a submission is all that's required

it's still a pain though

[tacit mountain]

They are also using .dll "injection"/loading ?

[grand geode]

oh wait this is similar to BepInEx?

[umbral pilot]

not really. lovely is more like fabric imho, but even that is a stretch

similar in that both lovely and bpx use load-time injection techniques to init

[tacit mountain]

Might be relevant in that case

Steamodded classic injector is a totally different topic:

[umbral pilot]

could you get me Defender's "security intelligence version"

[umbral pilot]

ouch yeah, so close

that sucks

man you guys have had some shit luck with the classic injector :-/

[tacit mountain]

I mean, compiling with Nuitka without any EV cert was kinda of expected

[lean dune]

when can we get rid of it 🤔

[tacit mountain]

Even the PS injector:

With a different Trojan type somehow

[hardy brook]

Is there a way for me to use the JokerAPI with a sprite sheet?

[umbral pilot]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/84668f188190aec82de6e29d1428e78995032b209043974361caa27ad56e35b1?nocache=1

lovely is somewhat clean

[rare shell]

yes

how do you setup you jonklers?

[grand geode]

somewhat?

[tacit mountain]

Microsoft version on virus total is not using last 11 I think

[umbral pilot]

yeah

[tacit mountain]

Because apparently it's now flagging on windows, I will try when I get back home

[hardy brook]

Is this what you mean?

[umbral pilot]

two vendors marked it as malware

out of 71

[grand geode]

guh

[tacit mountain]

Those 2 ones don't really matter in reallity

[umbral pilot]

defender is the only one I care about

hm

[tacit mountain]

Google and Microsoft are the most important one

Maybe mozilla but I don't know what they are using

Maybe the Elastic one ? I know it became mainstream lately.

Maybe the final solution for windows is a .msi signed installer for installing Steamodded with lovely lol

[rare shell]

yes, so
you basically need only one image if this is going to be spritesheet. You'll need to replace "old_jokers.png" with your spritesheet (or do not if it is already)

Every joker will still need to have it's own SMODS.Sprite:new thing, so don't remove that for other jokers
And then you specify the coordinates (labeled --spritePos on your second screenshot). x = 0, y = 0 is first joker on sprite sheet, x = 1, y = 0 is next joker to the right and etc.

[hardy brook]

Old_jokers.png will be the spritesheet, it needs renamed to ArchivedJokers tho

[rare shell]

yeah just rename it accordingly

[hardy brook]

So basically i just want to copy/paste the sprite:new for every joker?

[runic kraken]

wait, do you want a sprite sheet, or multiple sprites?

[hardy brook]

Spritesheet

[runic kraken]

when using a sprite sheet you only have to register 1 sprite as the atlas

[rare shell]

yep!

[hardy brook]

I still don't understand what an atlas is

[runic kraken]

SMODS.Joker:new(v.name, k, v.ability, v.pos, { name = v.name, text = v.text }, v.rarity, v.cost, true, true, v.blueprint_compat, v.eternal_compat, v.effect, "ThemedJokers",v.soul_pos)

SMODS.Sprite:new("ThemedJokers", SMODS.findModByID("ThemedJokers").path, "ThemedJokers.png", 71, 95, "asset_atli"):register()

and the jokers get the pos and atlas asigned when you create them

[lean dune]

An atlas is basically a container for a spritesheet

you can let the loader use an atlas which has the same name as the joker slug (above), or you can provide your own atlas

[hardy brook]

okay so i want to provide an atlas then

[rare shell]

ohh wait you can register atlas one time and then use it everytime?

[runic kraken]

yes

[lean dune]

yeah

[rare shell]

I was doing this wrong then DX

well not wrong

[tacit mountain]

If it works, it's not wrong

[lean dune]

it doesn't overwrite with the slug atlas if it's not present

both are valid

[rare shell]

but I was registering the same atlas everytime for a new joker

[lean dune]

uh that does nothing iirc

[tacit mountain]

I think the engine simply load them, so the worst that can happen is more ram used.

And i'm not even sure about that

[lean dune]

if it works anything like the other APIs, it should just ignore dupes

[grand geode]

might just override itself multiple times

[lean dune]

but I think it overwrites

[hardy brook]

So like this?

[lean dune]

yep

[tacit mountain]

Steamodded side it does or skip it I don't remember, engine side I have no idea

[runic kraken]

I added effect=nil to my jokers, no idea if thats needed. I did not want to skip a parameter

[lean dune]

it reassigns at load time, so worst that can happen is slightly longe loading times

[rare shell]

every sprite I register has a different slug tho

so it does something

[lean dune]

yeah that's perfectly valid, it will default to an empty string

[stone brook]

every time i suggest this, someone else finds out about it for the first time lmfao

[lean dune]

yeah as I said that's also fine

[rare shell]

🫡

goddamn what is the sound for mult

or maybe there's function for it

because it scales pitch with every joker?

or every use rather

[umbral pilot]

anyways @ me if more people start having problems with the lovely release, I've got to get to work

also would any of you be interested in testing a thunderstore cli mod installer?

[tacit mountain]

Yeah me

[umbral pilot]

that's my current project and it's currently shit, I need testers lmao

sweet

https://github.com/thunderstore-io/tcli-rust I'll share binaries once I get an installer implemented for it

[hardy brook]

I'm on 0.9.8... don't know what could go wrong

[runic kraken]

hmm

[rare shell]

wait

joker?

sprite?

[hardy brook]

What?

I have the sprite

[rare shell]

nvm

[grand geode]

full log?

[runic kraken]

I dont see the problem in the syntax itself.

[cedar galleon]

i've been messing around with the view deck function, including this line of code:

local display_name = SMODS.Card.RANKS[rank_name].shorthand or rank_name

for some reason, the king is not displayed with its shorthand
so i go through every rank with this bit of code:

io.write(rank_name.."'s shorthand: "..tostring(SMODS.Card.RANKS[rank_name].shorthand).."\n")

i get this:

Queen's shorthand: Q
King's shorthand: nil <--- that's odd...
11's shorthand: 11
Ace's shorthand: A
13's shorthand: 13
1's shorthand: 1
0's shorthand: 0
2's shorthand: nil
3's shorthand: nil
4's shorthand: nil
5's shorthand: nil
6's shorthand: nil
7's shorthand: nil
8's shorthand: nil
9's shorthand: nil
10's shorthand: nil
12's shorthand: 12
Jack's shorthand: J

(ignore the fact that they're not in order and that 0, 1, 11, 12, 13 exist)

check the definition of SMODS.Card.RANKS more closely
oh

[grand geode]

uhh do you have the joker declared in the init function

[grand geode]

😭????

[rare shell]

ah sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension

[runic kraken]

is rarity set to 0 here? 1=common, 2=uncommon, 3=rare 4=legendary

[grand geode]

ooh good catch

[hardy brook]

oh

it was

oh wtf did i do

one sec

[rare shell]

2x is the same as 1x I think

here

[hardy brook]

at least it's loading

right?

[runic kraken]

you need a 2x sprite

[hardy brook]

I realized the problem

Fixed

Now to see if it even works in-game

[runic kraken]

good luck

[dapper helm]

were they all normal color jimbo in 0.8.6b? or just jolly

[hardy brook]

Just jolly

[dapper helm]

jimbo really loves his pairs i guess

[hardy brook]

and it works

Gives the +5 mult like in 0.8.6

[lean dune]

oops

[hardy brook]

btw, final version will have discovered as false

[lean dune]

I guess that gets tacked onto the list of things that are fixed in the next version but aren't worth a patch

[hardy brook]

awesome, blueprint compatibility works too

Because Droll has not changed art, it's getting a border

And every effect change that has the same art will have different borders

[lean dune]

i like that

[hardy brook]

I'll basically go through the rainbow then Pink Brown, Gray, Black

Doubt I'd need that many colors, but if I somehow go back around, I'll do like half/half or something

[lean dune]

that's plenty options

[hardy brook]

silly question

is it possible to change this color

[lean dune]

yeah?

[hardy brook]

i never worked with this before is all

[lean dune]

--- BADGE_COLOUR: ABCDEF in the header

[hardy brook]

thanks.

[lean dune]

I also added it to the readme iirc

[hardy brook]

Now the question is... what color to make it

ooh another question

is it possible to change text color in there too?

If so i have an idea

[grand geode]

couldn't find one, otherwise i would've went with a lighter pink

[wanton rapids]

is this a good idea
x4 mult if hand contains a straight that alternates red/black

[grand geode]

having to rearrange hand every time is annoying

[wanton rapids]

the order won't matter

as you play it

just the order of the numbers

[runic kraken]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1227289111862448290
I made a template for people that wanted to make their own jokers, but did not know exactly where to start.
I would appreciate it if gave feedback or suggestions, or even own contributions to that

[hardy brook]

Eh, may as well make it a crimson red color since I'm Crimson

Oh geez

Imagine the suit jokers being uncommon but inherently worse

[wanton rapids]

the sinful ones or the stones

[hardy brook]

The sinful one

[wanton rapids]

really??

[woeful finch]

oh god that was prebuff?

[grand geode]

christ that is

[wanton rapids]

that's like +10 mult at best

[hardy brook]

yup, that's what 0.8.6 for you

[grand geode]

that is surely

[woeful finch]

3 mult now doesn’t feel that bad

[hardy brook]

Banana's had the craziest changes for sure

[wanton rapids]

also old burnt joker matches campfire in the on sell trigger

and that's neat

[woeful finch]

old burnt was reworked cuz it was part of a printing machine combo

[grand geode]

every patch thunk flips a coin to increase or decrease extinct chance

[wanton rapids]

tbh i'd still take that if it wasn't uncommon

[hardy brook]

I wonder once old burnt is reimported if it'll still print with the modern engine

[wanton rapids]

wait how many burnt jokers were there

[hardy brook]

I'm gonna have to figure out how to get 100% saves for future stuff

like 0.9

[wanton rapids]

wait that's actually crazy with any version of blue seal

exponential hand size

[hardy brook]

Blue seal didn't exist back then

there was a gold seal

but it put played cards with it back into your hand I think

[wanton rapids]

talking about in the archived mod

[hardy brook]

yup

Btw, I'm not planning to balance ANY OF IT

If it does X, it does X

[runic kraken]

I thought that was the point, to archive the original effects and stuff

[hardy brook]

it is

but like if there's exploits one can do

go ahead

I wonder if the alias thing works for deck backs and enhancements and all that

oh btw, tarots are gonna be BUSTED this first update

Soul used to be a Tarot card

[rigid jewel]

I'm getting flashbacks to the tarot card effects

[hardy brook]

Oh geez, i have to add the old enhancements somehow

Perfect

[rigid jewel]

what da hell

[white scarab]

Now beat it

[hardy brook]

You can actually do this with the original

Be careful when resizing

[lean dune]

...wtf

that's a little messed up, don't you think?

[hardy brook]

don't worry, when you finish resizing it's fine

see

[white scarab]

Time to do a 180p speedrun

[lean dune]

oh no

[hardy brook]

but yeah, i wonder if alias works for more than just the new jokers consumables, and vouchers

sorry not alias

atlas

[rigid jewel]

It should work for everything iirc

[lean dune]

yeah it should

[rigid jewel]

Just set the proper dimension for it and you should be able to load any sprite you want

[hardy brook]

Alright, i'll try

Okay so i tried doing the atlas thing, and it did not work

[runic kraken]

time to ask you about my new theme idea for my mod. do you think this will be fun to play? obviously not really balanced yet

[hardy brook]

interesting

[rigid jewel]

Side note, concepting effects for this mod is much harder than I anticipated

[rigid jewel]

cool

I like jokers with risk, so big fan of the ideas here

[lean dune]

sounds fun

[hardy brook]

Idk why but ace up your sleeve joker for DNDG: At beginning of round, add a random ace to your hand

[dusky reef]

oh weird question

does anybody know which part of the code handles the fire litting

[lean dune]

sounds interesting... maybe an editioned ace (not negative) to make it unique from certificate and grim/incantation/familiar?

[dusky reef]

I'm a little clueless as to find what to search for

[hardy brook]

yup

[lean dune]

uh what exactly do you mean by that?

[rigid jewel]

I like that

[cunning silo]

SDV JOKERS WOOOOOO

[dusky reef]

when you have a hand higher than the current blind

it lits a fire when scoring

[lean dune]

ah

hold on

[runic kraken]

just wait for the part where you are done designing the effects and realize that its extremely hard to add them to the game.
I had to change so many of my ideas because they did not really work as I wanted

[rigid jewel]

Backup Battery had an effect that fit the idea but wasn't that good

Gave you +2 hands when you're at 0, disabled for the next 2 blinds

simple common

[hardy brook]

Okay so yeah, even with adding the archived Deck art in, it's not gonna work with atlas

[umbral pilot]

still waiting on a complete review

[hardy brook]

lemme try something

[fickle elbow]

when using for k, v how do you make sure you don't get this error?

[dusky reef]

use ipairs or pairs?

[hardy brook]

Nope, not even adding nil works

[fickle elbow]

im using pairs

[dusky reef]

for k, v in pairs(table)?

sounds like you used =

[fickle elbow]

yep

[dusky reef]

that's weird

what are you iterating

[fickle elbow]

enhancements

[dusky reef]

did you reuse any variable

[lean dune]

uh I've seen that somewhere

I don't remember though

[dusky reef]

for example, nested loop that had used k, v previously

[fickle elbow]

not in this joker

[dapper helm]

may i humbly suggest "Innervate" common joker from one step from eden "+1 hand. add 2 debuffed cards to your deck" and/or "Minnie Gun" common/uncommon joker "+12 chips, gain +12 chips for each hand containing a three of a kind

[fickle elbow]

tree of a kind lol

[dapper helm]

its insane how my brain's autocorrect flubs the same way a phone's autocorrect would

[dapper helm]

not even the only mess up

[cunning silo]

Aure changed their name...

[lean dune]

tree oak

[lean dune]

yes, i have a gold stake win now

[cunning silo]

ohhh nice

[dapper helm]

gaming

which deck?

[lean dune]

boring stuff, red deck

it was a flush build

[cunning silo]

did you say gaming XD

[dapper helm]

good job honestly aure

not even like top 5 easiest imo

[dapper helm]

i stopped playing before this character was added :l

[lean dune]

and tbh, 1.7e52, while it was the highest score in the demo, it's not much of anything looking at all the naneinf shenanigans we have now

(and it's not even glitched)

[rigid jewel]

Getting naneinf with the joker selections was nigh impossible

[lean dune]

yeah you need perkeo

but the demo is long gone, so I feel like it's not something that matters

[dapper helm]

is perkeo the best joker in the game?

[wanton rapids]

definitely one of them

[lean dune]

it's up there

[dapper helm]

for sure but i wonder if its the best

[wanton rapids]

what's better than it?

[lean dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HegjPUWAPo here's that 1.7e52 in case anyone still cares

[lean dune]

not sure if that's possible to say universally

pretty much any seed that has perkeo can do some crazy stuff

[wanton rapids]

tbh? gros michel > perkeo

[lean dune]

inf money, even

inf jokers

[wanton rapids]

+15 mult is crazy early on and lets you save for future jokers

[lean dune]

if you have enough patience

[dapper helm]

new yorick has been cooking hard in my low stake modded runs so far, blueprint and burglar are the only other contenders imo

[lean dune]

bp/bs are universally good, but only better than perkeo if you have perkeo

[dapper helm]

i got him up to x23 on non red deck first time i saw him

[wanton rapids]

yeah new yorick is pretty funny

[dapper helm]

bs is like 2% worse so it can't be the best

[lean dune]

it doesn't always matter

[wanton rapids]

okay, what's the best common?

[dapper helm]

true

riff raff easily

[wanton rapids]

fair enough

[lean dune]

except for riff raff, probably cavendish

[grand geode]

riffraff

[lean dune]

but that brings up gros michel again

[wanton rapids]

not cavendish that Does Not Count

[grand geode]

gros michel ignoring cavendish is also a contender

[wanton rapids]

tbh 1 in 6 is a buff (?!)

[hardy brook]

you don't have to worry about that in 0.8.6 btw, and it works a little different too

[wanton rapids]

lets you have a more consistent early game

[grand geode]

riff-raff my beloved

[dapper helm]

i don't like the 1 in 6

[wanton rapids]

ok the old invisible art is pretty funny

[lean dune]

i haven't played 0.8.6

[dapper helm]

i like the old invis art more

[lean dune]

but yeah the art is hilarious

[hardy brook]

Riff Raff + Negative + Invis means it'd go nuts

[wanton rapids]

two invis jokers:

[lean dune]

can invis dupe invis?

i sense more infinities

[wanton rapids]

it removes negatives iirc

[fickle elbow]

im getting a slightly different error now

[hardy brook]

In 0.8.6b?

[lean dune]

the old one doesn't

[wanton rapids]

oh, i see

[hardy brook]

also the most random change from thunk

[wanton rapids]

oh yeah old planet art

[lean dune]

can you send the code over?

[dapper helm]

so gray

[lean dune]

I've seen that before but I don't remember what it was about

[wanton rapids]

i mean space is colourless

[hardy brook]

Death used to change 2 cards into the third card

[wanton rapids]

oh that's really strong

[hardy brook]

and hanged man used to destroy 3

[dapper helm]

woah

[hardy brook]

actually a lot of "2 cards" were "3 cards"

[rigid jewel]

One of them also disabled the blind

The Fool was it?

[hardy brook]

The fool yeah

Strength increased 3 cards, Emperor spawned up to 3 planet/tarots

[wanton rapids]

okay that's kind of fun

sounds like an alchemical thing

[dapper helm]

luchador if it was cool

[hardy brook]

High Priestess used to be blueprint for tarots and planets

[wanton rapids]

so current the fool?

[hardy brook]

pretty much

[wanton rapids]

oh wait this was with tarots in consumable slots

[hardy brook]

Nope

There was no consumable slot

[wanton rapids]

tarots in joker slots

i meant

[hardy brook]

yup

[ebon flame]

Wouldn't you need to rebalance all the jokers for this to be playable?

[dapper helm]

it doesn't need to be balanced if its funny

you should try out sixty suits

[grand geode]

play sixty suits

[hardy brook]

Sun, moon, Star, and world all changed 3 cards to their suit

[dapper helm]

thats not changed no?

[hardy brook]

is it not

thought it's 2 now

oh yeah nvm yeah it's 3

thought it got debuffed to 2 as well

[dapper helm]

suit tarots are kinda Good

[fickle elbow]

btw the error is happening for the code in verdant shift

[lean dune]

--- BADGE_COLOUR:60efff

you're missing a space

[fickle elbow]

yea ik

[lean dune]

i think it will work if you correct that

[fickle elbow]

really?

[lean dune]

at least I think the error I've seen that looks like this related to it

I might be mistaken, but I see nothing else wrong with it at a glance

[fickle elbow]

i think its because of something in calculate for verdant shift

[lean dune]

let me check that line ref then

that's repetitions

[fickle elbow]

so just put not in front?

[lean dune]

unless your joker is supposed to retrigger cards, that's out of place

if it is, you need to return something

[fickle elbow]

its suppose to enhance all played club cards

i put not got a similar error

[lean dune]

context.repetition would look something like this

[lean dune]

sound like context.before to me

[cunning silo]

wait what

more suit jokers?

[hardy brook]

And... they don't trigger

crap

[fickle elbow]

this happens when i play a club card

[hardy brook]

Welp my power went out

How about that

[cunning silo]

what jokers take their effect at the end of a round?

[wanton rapids]

gros michel

[rigid jewel]

Including money jokers or excluding them

[wanton rapids]

ice cream

oops (it's not owned)

[sleek granite]

popcorn is end of round

ice cream is hand played

[hardy brook]

Old suit cards but yes

[cunning silo]

why are you making the old ones?

[hardy brook]

#1214967538585174077

[cunning silo]

oh wait right

forgot about it

[hardy brook]

Lol

[sleek granite]

Thats The Point

cant wait to have 40 suit jokers

[hardy brook]

I ain’t repeating every card lol

I do have to make note that 8 ball reverted the art back

Playing in 1.0.0 but modding for 1.0.1

I’m only modding in 0.8.6 content before moving on to 0.8.7

Aka each update will have an update

[cunning silo]

https://gyazo.com/b2256afc61a2131d09b58d05d952fb6e.mp4

I made a joker that flips on its head!

[sleek granite]

kamigawa flip jokers....

[dapper helm]

juggard...

[cunning silo]

i like your funny words

[sleek granite]

no easing ....

[cunning silo]

the juice is not working for some reason

[sleek granite]

juice harder ....

[cunning silo]

i just thought about something i have no idea how i will fix

[hardy brook]

Flip the art around tbh

So that the red is on top for mult and blue on top for chips

[sleek granite]

its juggler and drunkard

[hardy brook]

what the heck, why isn't it registering the suits?

[sleek granite]

register harder

[dapper helm]

i want a cat texture pack

[hardy brook]

btw my power's back on

lemme check 1.0.0

No it's the same type of config

config = {extra = {s_mult = 2, suit = 'Diamonds'}}

[lean dune]

ngl I've had this thought before... what if you combined drunkard and juggler

[sleek granite]

i think you need the same Effect too?

[dapper helm]

whats stone marble joker gonna be like?

[cunning silo]

well, that's why Fusion Jokers exist!

[dapper helm]

hologram certificate pls feder you simply must

[sleek granite]

hologram throwback....

[civic grail]

A rich vampire? Midas + vamp

That or midas + ticket

[sleek granite]

ticket pog

[dapper helm]

ticket gaming

[hardy brook]

Like this?

[fickle elbow]

golden ticket

[hardy brook]

smult instead of mult

[cunning silo]

i need a thread for ir don't i?

[dapper helm]

yeah

[sleek granite]

nah just do what i do and never make a thread until release and never use it after

[sleek granite]

i assume you are :register()ing these somewhere?

[hardy brook]

Yes

They wouldn't appear in-game if I didn't

[sleek granite]

idk

[sleek granite]

im used to how my mods register things which is in a for loop iterating over a table of Things

[solemn ledge]

I'm still suffering from trying to import packs into the game

[hardy brook]

I'm just gonna import everything without effects for now

[cunning silo]

#1227317656131211284 Made a page for it, if you want to submit any fusion ideas

[sleek granite]

yeah idk how suit jokers work lolll

[fickle elbow]

any reason for this error?

also how to fix this on discard

[rigid jewel]

what is "evaluate_playref" used for?

[sleek granite]

evaluating a played referee obv

[rigid jewel]

I ask because it makes understanding this error easier

But thankfully, it's probably not? I think?

[fickle elbow]

i assume this happens because the return fuction is outside the played hand fuction, but when i put it inside nothing happens not even the error

[rigid jewel]

The error has something to do with eval.jokers.repetitions not being a number when trying to calc if a card is repeated

Maybe specific if not context.repetition before the the return?

Also what is this joker's effect?

[fickle elbow]

it adds a random enhacement to played club cards

whats your faviote booster pack -> https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1227321796689264685

[marble sundial]

Hello, I'm trying to run the steam steamodded executable on windows but I get a device attached to the system is not functioning

Is there a fix to this?

[lean dune]

have you tried installing with #1217867725532041369 ?

[marble sundial]

I have not

[fickle elbow]

i think the error has to do with the return fuction not being in the if statement

but doesn't enhance the club cards or do anything

[marble sundial]

Where's the dll? I only see exe

[sleek granite]

the dll is downloaded from lovely's github

[marble sundial]

In a different repo?

Oh I'm dumb

[sleek granite]

yeah, lovely is its own thing

steamodded is just compatible with it

[fickle elbow]

i got it working :]

[sleek granite]

buttons are hard actually

[astral crown]

so let's say I wanted to override some basic function in the game, this one specifically:

but only when there's a specific joker in hand. I'm using steamodd. How would I approach this?

[iron onyx]

now i feel motivated to create a button of my own for manual fusing... but maybe i'll just leave that to @cunning silo.

[exotic shadow]

You should be able to do something like this https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/balatro-mods/blob/master/steamodded/Crashing/Crashing.lua

But with your function

[astral crown]

lol. interesting

although I think I have a nice trick after checkin the source code a little

[exotic shadow]

Yeah

If you want to change logic in the middle of a function, you have to basically rewrite that function

[astral crown]

it didn't work though sadge

[exotic shadow]

Lovely does let you patch functions though

But then you don't get steamoddes api

[sleek granite]

im pretty sure you can use lovely to patch in stuff that uses steamodded's api, unless i misunderstand what you mean

but i mean i have no idea what im doing so

[astral crown]

basically I'm trying to get a joker to allow discarding more cards than 5

in button_callbacks there are two functions, can play and can discard. I don't think I need to actually touch can play now

[crimson helm]

are theygoing to put the mods in steam workshop it seems like a lot of work to do mods turn on and off etc

[fickle elbow]

spring

[cunning silo]

Hmmmmm interesting. Trying to place the button at the bottom?

[sleek granite]

itay save me from this ui hell

yeah

like consumables in packs

[cunning silo]

I’m not near a PC rn sadly, but I think there’s another way they do that

But just moving it around like you did is a good idea for now

[sleek granite]

align='bm' instead of align='cl'

but for some reason it's being ignored?

i wonder if it only checks the first node's align

[cunning silo]

Yeah test that

[sleek granite]

which would be STUPID

because then i can't do multiple buttons in multiple directions

[steady mauve]

Is there a mod for Balatro that would let me add/remove any card or joker to the run? Kinda similar to the console/dev mode in Slay the Spire?

[fickle elbow]

debug?

[sleek granite]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209857245316255744

[sleek granite]

fine i'll use the Dark Magics.... (table.insert with three parameters)

[cunning silo]

Ping me if it works! I’m really interested in it now

[sleek granite]

hm. not.... quite

[astral crown]

it looks like all I want to do it have the joker change the CardArea config.highlighted_limit

[steady mauve]

Ahh, debug mode. Brilliant, that's exactly what I wanted 😊 Thank you folks!

[astral crown]

but can I access it directly?

[sleek granite]

although now i think i see that it's trying to do both alignments and each one is messing the other up?

tfw trying to use it prints neither the debug message for "successful use" nor "not a usable joker"

[exotic shadow]

ok so intrestingly, I belive you can just set the config to allow you to select more cards

the game automatically grays out the play button when 6 or more cards are selected

but you can still discard

[sleek granite]

WELL
i at least made it look NORMAL

[tacit crest]

What is happening

[lean dune]

hm that's an interesting concept

[sleek granite]

PACK

[lean dune]

but technically usable jokers exist, it's just on-sell effects

[sleek granite]

yeah i wanted repeatable usage

[lean dune]

yeah that's something the base game doesn't have

[sleek granite]

yeah~ thats why im making it~

[lean dune]

(does this one do something if used 10 times?)

[sleek granite]

it doesnt even do anything if used once

like genuinely does nothing and im not sure why

should at least be printing a debug message but its not :c

ohhhh theres a sanity check to make sure the thing you're trying to use is consumeable :l

time for an insanity check

[astral crown]

that's what I saw, but I want it to be dependant on having a particular joker

[exotic shadow]

I mean you can change it based off your jokers trigger

[sleek granite]

i bet its trying to add the joker to my deck actually, like if it was in a buffoon pack

[astral crown]

so how do you change the CardArea configuration on the fly? Can you even?

[exotic shadow]

not sure

just have modifed it in the save file

but it should just be as simple as setting the value

[astral crown]

but where?

I mean where in the joker configuraiton\initialization etc

[exotic shadow]

it should be G.cardAreas.hand.config.max_selected or something like that

is your effect always active or just at certain times?

[rigid jewel]

This joker I'm making rn is devious

[astral crown]

it's G.cardAreas.hand.config.highlighted_limit

[exotic shadow]

yeah that sounds rught

[astral crown]

but where in my joker does that happen? I don't think it happens in calculate

[exotic shadow]

I haven't acctually writen a joker, but I know for sure Oops! all 6's modifes a global varible

I'd take a look at how it does it

so does credit card

[sleek granite]

the fact wee joker is never a multiple of 8 hurts me

[rigid jewel]

Kinda sad

[astral crown]

oh interesting I'll at that

*look

[exotic shadow]

Oops modifes G.GAME.probabilities.normal and credit card modifes G.GAME.bankrupt_at

[astral crown]

ohhhh yeah it modifies it in the add_to_deck and then removes it

[exotic shadow]

yeah

there might also be logic for disabling it

not sure

[astral crown]

so is it just SMODS.Jokers.j_myjoke.add_to_deck ?

[exotic shadow]

never wrote a joker before ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sleek granite]

my joke....

[astral crown]

lol yeah I just made a simple template I use as base before I name stuff

[sleek granite]

[boreal ibex]

use jokr

[iron onyx]

good job!

[sleek granite]

dont congratulate me it's utterly broken

[boreal ibex]

should say when used

[exotic shadow]

I mean it at least clicky clicky's

[sleek granite]

it's not even saying the DEBUG MESSAGE AAAAAAA

[iron onyx]

it's sized properly and goes clicky clicky

[dapper helm]

is that hovering like a legendary?

[sleek granite]

yes

[iron onyx]

that's what we call...

progress

[sleek granite]

OH IM STUPID

i made a whole separate function for using a joker but it still has the consumeable sanity check

[sleek granite]

insanity check succeeded

[exotic shadow]

smh my head, sanity check without a print("Shits going very wrong")

[sleek granite]

listen

i do have that

and it wasnt hitting it

[exotic shadow]

so it wasn't hitting the check and it wasn't calling your code

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[sleek granite]

oh no

i may have underestimated how complex consumables are

[astral glade]

youre no longer sillymaxxing, youre now insanitymaxxinh

[sleek granite]

glad someone gets it

[exotic shadow]

should I make a better debug mode mod?

[sleek granite]

that would be pretty based

at least let me directly kill the blind im in

[astral glade]

yeah

its annoying to grab tarots to test stuff like seals and enhancements

[sleek granite]

just grab Chance

:)))

get lucky nerd

[astral glade]

chance has screwed me before i refuse to use it again

stone card :(

[sleek granite]

stone card :(

ohhh i bet its softlocking because there's no case for putting the card BACK where it was instead of destroying it

[rare shell]

what

[sleek granite]

hi lyman im insanitymaxxing

[astral glade]

just girlbossing

[sleek granite]

i am simply a girlboss

[boreal ibex]

girlboss power

[astral glade]

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

[sleek granite]

gaslight (myself)
gatekeep (the answers)
girlboss

[dapper helm]

imagine wheel of fortune just went back to the slot after saying

[astral glade]

Wheel of Silliness

(you cant get rid of it)

[sleek granite]

oh no

my d6 broke....

[boreal ibex]

im stealing this phrase

[astral glade]

its an internet phrase i already stole it

[boreal ibex]

it is going to get repossessed at some point

[magic sandal]

Yo modders I need your help, I wanna search for the longest joker description for an image, which joker has the longest description by character count?

[dapper helm]

perkeo?

[sleek granite]

the important part is we used the d6

[rare shell]

deez6

[sleek granite]

thank you for your wise words in these trying times

[rare shell]

ive gotten woken up 4 times from my sleep today

and only got like 5 hours of sleep

[rare shell]

[sleek granite]

i also got only like 4 hours of sleep tbf

[dapper helm]

this is when the best ideas come to mind

[sleek granite]

functioning as intended tbh idk whats wrong here

humorously this made foil trigger 6 times

wait i shouldnt even be moving the card

[iron onyx]

can someone tell me if there's anything in particular i'm doing wrong with this attempt at localization initialization?

(i know there's probably a more intuitive way to word it, i'm just scratching my head on why i'm not seeing it)

[iron juniper]

This looks perfectly fine

[hardy brook]

YOU'RE STILL MODDING WITH RESHUFFLED?

WTF

[rigid jewel]

hehehe

[sleek granite]

i made it so the joker can be set to not move the active windows (blind select, shop, round end) but uh.... what

why hand apepar

[boreal ibex]

it feel lik ir

[sleek granite]

this is coming along nicely aside from every aspect of the game falling apart

[hardy brook]

Alright, time to import effectless jokers for Balatro Archived

[sleek granite]

you should import

[boreal ibex]

you should

[sleek granite]

you jest but ive made a Tamari Plush custom card before (for isaac four souls)

[boreal ibex]

(this was intended as a you should ___ not a you should do that thing i apologize)

[sleek granite]

you jest

[boreal ibex]

you

[sleek granite]

i'm joker hee hee hoo hoo

[boreal ibex]

why so seriouss

[sleek granite]

im never serious

if i ever stop being silly then the darkness takes over

hee hee hoo hoo

[sleek granite]

@cunning silo i didnt get the button to the bottom of the card but otherwise the framework works with only slight weirdness yippee

(it is getting used just doesnt do anything aside from a console message)

[magic sandal]

Btw we found the joker

A polychrome perishable rental delayed gratification

[sleek granite]

needs to be eternal too

[magic sandal]

Can't be perishable and eternal

[sleek granite]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1226224247677124719

[dusky reef]

at what stage do we get a final score?

[magic sandal]

Well this is an actual joker you can get

[dusky reef]

context.after seems to be before the actual scoring

[magic sandal]

So it's better imo

[dusky reef]

or rather, how do we get the actual score we get in the end?

I've tried to access G.ARGS.score_intensity.earned_score in context.after and it basically gives me the poker hand's default score

[rigid jewel]

btw

I just found out what the use for the effect parameter is

[sleek granite]

is it shitposting?

[fathom pine]

Hey... Is there a tutorial on how to make Joker mods? I want to learn

[rigid jewel]

Lusty, Greedy, Wrathful, and Gluttonous use this as their logic

[iron onyx]

btw, if you're looking for an effect: i think this should reroll any jokers currently in shops or booster packs

[sleek granite]

oh yeah

[dapper helm]

why delayed gratification? that doesn't seem right

[sleek granite]

i just needed to get usable items working at all

then worry about it doing something

[iron onyx]

and then have D20 reroll other cards.

[rigid jewel]

So far the jonkler is properly cooking (ignore the Save Data video playing in the BG)

[sleek granite]

d6 should hit vouchers too

vouchers+jokers, d20 is the rest

[magic sandal]

I haven't checked myself tbh

Perkeo isn't a candidate since you can't apply stickers to it

[dapper helm]

yeah i get that but is seeing double not more for example?

[sleek granite]

delayed gratification is the best for that tho. its a bad income joker with rental

[boreal ibex]

staring at this makes me want to retexture everything

[magic sandal]

I mean show me the character amount maybe you're right

[dapper helm]

its 81ish just counting in game

[magic sandal]

There are sites that count that

[dapper helm]

3 line breaks that are probably spaces

[magic sandal]

Compare them both I'm interested

[ember perch]

Are achievements broken with mods downloaded?

[sleek granite]

achieves are deliberately disabled

theres a mod to enable them

[dapper helm]

delayed is 63

[sleek granite]

btw line breaks in the code are technically entirely different strings

[iron onyx]

is there no easy way to get a card's key value from Card:generate_UIBox_ability_table()?

[sleek granite]

self.config.center.key?

[dapper helm]

so 61 vs 78

[iron onyx]

i feel like i tried that

[magic sandal]

Damn I guess I'll remake the image tomorrow

[sleek granite]

it might work differently for playing cards if thats what you need. not sure

[dapper helm]

don't use seeing double either tho, i don't think its right it was just an example

ride the bus is 93

[iron onyx]

yeah, i'm trying to get my line card enhancement to find the f#&@ing description i gave it

[dapper helm]

holy shit i never realized how overly large ceremonial dagger's description was

[magic sandal]

I think I realized what happened

The person I asked to searched went for the longest joker name if I had to guess

[dapper helm]

ahhh that makes sense

[iron onyx]

and you know what the most irritating part of this whole process is?

specifically modded balatro crashes at random on completing a load... with no error message

like...

[magic sandal]

Yeah it's longest name